Disneyland Fight Club, CNN = Casino News Network 01.08.26

In episode 1986, Jack and Miles are joined by filmmaker, tv writer. host of Glamorous Trash: A Celebrity Memoir Podcast and author of I Shouldn't Be Telling You This: (But I'm Going To Anyway), Chelsea Devantez, to discuss… RFK Jr. Latest Vaccine F**kery “Blindsided” The CDC, Who’s Taking The Over On NUCLEAR APOCALYPSE? Peace to Duffman, Disneyland Line-Cutting Leads To Brutal Fight and more!

1. ‘Astounding’ vaccine change puts US behind peer countries, experts warn
2. US to slash routine vaccine recommendations for children in major change experts say creates doubt
3. HHS announces unprecedented overhaul of US childhood vaccine schedule
4. The Obvious Reason the U.S. Should Not Vaccinate Like Denmark
5. How the Danish Vaccination Registry became a cornerstone of Denmark’s immunisation service
6. Assessment of the U.S. Childhood and Adolescent Immunization Schedule Compared to Other Countries
7. Why RFK Jr.’s plan to follow Europe on vaccines is getting panned
8. CDC staff ‘blindsided’ as child vaccine schedule unilaterally overhauled
9. The perils of RFK Junior's anti-vaccine leadership for public health
10. The casino-fication of news
11. ‘Goodness Gracious!’: CNN Data Guru Reveals Trump Takeover Odds
12. Father brutally beaten in fight over line-cutting at Disneyland
13. Disneyland addresses increasing hostility, fighting at theme parks

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Can you hear?

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Wow, I didn't realize I needed to get into football.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
The whole club named after you might We actually produced
that specifically for it.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We we we got five hundred five drunk, horny men
and West London together to see.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Wouldn't have thought I wanted that, but it turns out
I do.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I guess like hearing a group of people scream your
name like that would be a little bit like like
y'all got a little chance.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
For me too, with a little accent on.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
I had an accent, Yeah, just a little bit. When
you come out of your house, oh jose chose.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Maybe it'll be my alarm that'll wake me up.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
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episode four of turna Y guys, what's the.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Production of Iheartradios?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
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America share consciousness through.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The day's news.

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dropping each Monday for you know, most Mondays, covering the
history of a different icon.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
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with icon in the title. It is Thursday, January eighth,
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Thursday. What a day. It's National Career Coach Day, National
Winter Skin Well, that's a fucking ad for a fucking lotion,
uh Nation skin lotionster Skin Relief Day, And I'm like,
who by that doesn't matter? National English Toffee Day, National
bubble bath Day, and National argyle Day. So why don't
you use her argyle tal after enjoying a piece of

(02:13):
English toffee in your bubble bath? I make this January
with life coach in there. Career coach, career coach okay, well,
which feels like another industry where people are like, you know,
because come on now, pay somebody to tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Every shit his National Career Coach Day. Yeah, yeah, I
get always outstaring my damn career coach. My name is
Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be
joined as always buy my co host, mister Miles Gray.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yes is Miles Gray, The show Gun with No Gun,
The Lord of lacersham Alta, Dina's finest coming out The
Fires it's been. Today is technically the anniversary of when
my house for now the fire started on the seventh,
but the eighth is when the ship are actually knew.
Yeah yeah, yeah, when I was like, I remember texting me.
I'm like, yeah, I think, I think, I think, I'm

(03:03):
I think it's cooked. Guys, I'm not quite sure. But
what a year it's been. I got to say. I
just said, I'm thinking a lot of things at the moment,
but mostly really good things because this has been a
like a trying year, but I've I've learned to put
new value into things that I had it before. So
a beautiful year, and I'm so glad to have shared

(03:24):
it with the listeners and all y'all because you've been
there and support it. So just going to bring that
up again because it is a bit of a sentimental
day for me. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, you've been through it. You've been through some shit's.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Been through some shit. Yeah, you know, I've done it admirably.
I think that's why the new administration didn't fuck with
me as much, because I'm like, and what you gonna do?
Burn my house down? Too late? Yeah? Too late? Oh god,
maybe I didn't need that, but yeah, Uh, it's definitely.
It's a lot, but you know, my heart, my heart
goes out to everybody who's affected because the recovery is

(03:56):
still a long, slow process. Lawsuits are still happening. It's all,
it's it's it's a whole thing. But yeah, my heart
goes out to l a Well, Miles.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat.
Brilliantly talented filmmaker, TV writer, best selling author, one of
the head writers for The Problem, with John Stewart wrote
on Girls five have a Blessed This Mess Opposition with
Jordan Clever, among many many others. She wrote, directed, and
starred in the acclaimed short film Basic, and hosts the

(04:26):
podcast Glamorous Trash, a celebrity memoir podcast.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's Chelsea Davantage.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
So sa, I am so thrilled to be here with
you both. I'm such a beautiful anniversary Miles.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I wanted to have you here to share it celebration.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Of It is pretty wild to really sit with the
fact that it's been a year, because I feel like
LA as a whole, at least industry adjacent, there was
this slogan of surviving until.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Twenty twenty five, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Because of like the strikes and stuff, and so we
were all going into the new year being like, all right,
things are finally going to turn around, and it's been
all extail. Yeah, exactly. It's been such an intense psychosis
and even worse year that I can't believe it's been
a year since that started.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, until twenty five.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, but I made up a new one. Are you
ready for twenty twenty six?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Everything gonna get fixed in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
But there we go.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Please, So if you guys could pass that around back.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, and I'm optimistic again. I need grooves rhyme.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I need everyone in that saying that, manifesting it
as a whole.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, twenty six it's gonna get fixed, how passively
passively fixed? I don't know what I'm gonna do with it,
but it's gonna get fixed for me. Someone else gonna
fix it. I'm she's going to take care of itself,
I think. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Actually, it is just not in the way we're all hoping.
It's been way too long since you've been on any
really good memoirs that you've you've consumed that everybody should
go check out on Glamorous Press.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yes, in that really bad memoirs that made the most
amazing episodes. We covered Cheryl hines memoir you know, Wife
to Our.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
We're going to cover some Cheryl Hines. Okay, is this
like a thing she wrote recently? Like it came out.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
It came out three weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
No Sleep at Night?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Actually, yes, she really does. When you finish it, you're like, oh,
this is how you live with yourself. It's it's unbelievable.
And then we also covered Olivia Nutzi's memoir American Canto.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean memoir or work of literature? You know it
blurns that line.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I would say it's a memoir slash a baseball bat.
I wouldn't put literature in this.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, we got some good excerpts from that. One man.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, okay, well you know those are those are his
two ladies of the moment that we know of, And
so we covered both of them and kind of talked
about them with each other.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
So that was fun. Yeah, amazing. We'll go check that
out on.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Cheryl Hines in her book and her Audiobok. Because I
think you guys will appreciate this, she says her. She says,
our art case, Junior works for human resources. She got
his jobs out on She's like, and then my husband
was signed in as the Department of Human Resources.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh Mike, Oh so yeah when together, like, you don't know, maybe.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
She can't admit it to herself, you know, like she's
just like there's a part of her brain that's rejecting
the fact that this motherfucker's in charge of the health
care policy for the United States. So she's like, he's
probably like an HR guy or something. Let's not go
to let's not think too long about that.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I think about the health's part of it.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in the moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listener's a few of the things
that we're talking about again, just an unending stream of
good news. Uh where our act too. We're gonna be
looking at the state of journalism. We're gonna look at
it through the state of the reporting on the RFK
Junior his latest vaccine fuckery that blindsided the CDC and

(08:21):
just not not really the journalism, but like how they're
justifying it, what what they came back with when people
are like, hey, it looks like all experts think this
is a bad idea. And then we're going to connect
that to the markets based reporting on the news, like
everybody is now consulting Polymarket and Calci about like, what

(08:42):
what are the.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Odds looking like? What's the line? Yeah, what's the over
under my child dying of premature death? Yeah? Jesus, we'll
talk about that.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
We'll talk about the Pentagon Influencer press corps uh, and
then we'll get into some silly stuff. We're gonna do
fun farewell to Duffman. Oh yeah, uttered his last oh
yeah on the Simpsons and Disneyland wine cutting fistfight.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Need I say more? Probably I do.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm interested all that plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Who you are?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
All Right, I'm going to continue to stay on theme
because because of these memoirs I've read some of them
bad I learned that Laria Baldwin and Olivia Nutzi both
have the same birthday, which is January sixth, And I
was like, this is wild, Like it does like of
a thousand children born on January sixth, does like one

(09:45):
demon get born on that day? What's happening? And so
I was like, who else is born on January sixth?
Eric Trump? Wow, that's what I just learned, Eric Trump,
Laria Maldwin, and Olivia Nutcy all January sixth insurrection babies.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Wow, like a four text of fucked up shit. It's
just terrible.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, so one one soul from the devil gets sent
through on this day each year. So if you are
January sixth, baby, it's it's not you because it's it's
Olivia and Malaria.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And yeah, January sixth, What a year that we just celebrated.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
What a what a day that we just celebrate. You
remember there's like that footage of January six where the
Trump family was like watching the insurrection in a tent
all like yeah, out of their mind. Like do you
think Eric was like trying to like, you know, it's
my birthday?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Did anyone give me a cake?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Shut the fuck up? What are you saying?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Probably his dad forgetting his birthday. So yeah, actually it
was actually probably one of his more celebratory days because
it only got together right.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
It was like finally, now though, we'll remember January sixth
instead of like I feel like it was for him,
the whole thing. Yeah, pretended everybody was.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
There for you, baby boy.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I can't believe Dad did this for me. Talk talking
about to happen birth, Dear Air. You're singing to yourself, dude.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
The that moment where they're backstage watching the insurrection, listening
to Glory the song Gloria. Yeah, and like, wait, dancing
is one of like I don't know it says it.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
All wait Brannigan's Gloria Glory.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yes, they're backstage just rocking out Kimberly Gilfoils like dancing
around and like the other Donald Trump Junior is like,
you know, taking taking video being like, oh my god,
we're here grounds it like a fucking influencer as his
dad tries to overthrow you as government.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, here's a this is here's a clip of it,
just watching the news, watching the news of the insurrection happening.
So there's one where like, yeah, she's just like I

(12:04):
think we're a couple of seconds here, guys, So check
it out in stream and yeah, terrifying.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
That's I'd never seen that. That's absolutely devastating. I love
that song and I gotta tell you, guys, I just
I just shot A just shot my first feature film
and the first song I purchased, so like, there's no
going back. That's in the film, that took up most
of the music budget. Gloria, take it cloud over me,

(12:41):
take it back from them.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
I mean this is that video will go down in
history and you and people will be like, whoa, what
is Chelsea saying?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
She's really calling back to the insurrection and this comedy women.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
That song rolls though, I mean, they don't get to
claim that one.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
No, No, it's also a cover. I know this because
of the purchase rights. It's it's originally an Italian song
by some other guy, and then Laura came around and
did a cover no one could have imagined.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And that's the kind of heard, kind of has like
Italian cocaine disco vibes to it.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
If you listen to the lyrics, it's dark.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
It sounds like someone like either a really depressed person
like giving themselves a pep talk slash dressing down, or yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
They're like, I know I'll feel better if I just
do a bunch of coke.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's gonna be okay.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Now, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
So many thing is underrated. Okay, this is gonna be divisive,
but somehow I absolutely was under a rock when the
movie House of Gucci came out because I just kind
of like vaguely remember people being like Jared Letto and
Lady Gaga are very bad in this and the Italian
accents are crazy and whatever. I vaguely remembered it, and
so last night we put it on because it's free

(14:04):
on Peacock and I have the best I have the
best time of my life. Sama Hia plays a witch.
Lady Gaga's eyes do a lot of acting. I did,
I had. I didn't know the history of the Gucci family,
so when it turned to murder, I was surprised. I
was I had a great time, and I was like,
I can't believe. I mean, listen, it's a shitty movie,
but shitty fun, Like we need more fun. That's it's

(14:26):
a fun movie.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that. I feel like that
was the take I heard. I haven't seen it either,
but I remember when super Producer and Jose saw she
was like, guys, it's so out there and awful that
it's amazing. Okay, Anna and I.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Have the same taste. I feel like that's right. But
I feel like the culture was like, eh, we spit
on this at cinema, like it's really Scott. So they
were just like, what a failure. We're embarrassed. We're Embarrassedtto.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And that is as good as Jared leto That.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Is me zing ession of his No, let me do
Jared Letto doing the time.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, I am in Betty sid.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That's Jared Letto's voice and Gucci if you have I
couldn't hear that at all.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
You couldn't.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's too high, like.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Only only dogs just started barking.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Let it's easy, Betty sad.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah it is. He's like, oh, you're pregnant, which.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
By the way, that is miles if you should break
that down that that basically the idea of I have
an embarrassment is how you say I'm pregnant in some
other languages, which is which explains a lot of patriarchy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, for.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Sure, I have an embarrassment. That's crazy. I never I never.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Realized that I'm not translating that well, I'm kind of
giving the overall idea.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
It seems like the only research he did for the
role was like nineties era Mario super Mario like sad accent,
like he's really just doing a Mario.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
But he's crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Crazy is that he's known for going so method that
when he's playing the Joker or whatever, he's like, I
sent condoms full of my own bloodle my cast meats. Yeah,
and so it's like, wait, what did you do to
be a cartoon character in the House of Gucci?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Maybe that's what that guy was really like, you know,
we we don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
No, I looked him up impossible. I mean I looked
at him as like they're not even visually, Yeah, the
same guy.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Did you see the Elvis movie, by the way, and
Tom Hanks' performance in Maslrman. Yeah, as to Colonel Tom Parker. Yeah,
did you ever see an actual interview with Tom Parker? No,
he like has a southern accent, like Tom Hanks just
made him be like I am the Snowman, will snow

(16:50):
you over.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Because he was like so Dutch with it. Because the
guy was a Dutch dude.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
He was, but like he was a calm man who
didn't tell anyone he was Dutch. That was the whole point.
So like if the movie is even like structurally, it
makes sense for him to be Southern and then like
at the end you find out these documentomas is just
I don't know how it happened. It's such a good reveal,

(17:18):
so weird. Also maybe around the same time, just a weird,
over the top, insane film. What is something that you
think is overrated?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
God?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know what, I'm in this moment of all I
can think of things that.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Are underrated, underrated?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, well you know what, I don't even know. I
think it's fully rated. It's rated. Heated Rivalry. It's kind
of all I can Sallyman consume me Heated Rivalry and
Mormon Housewives. You guys watching those shows.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I got the first episode of Heated Rivalry. I haven't
seen Secret Lives of Mormon Mormon Housewives yet.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
When everyone's your time, like news and ship come on,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Know, chasing a child around and I wish, I wish
my kid would fuck the Secret Lives of.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Mormon No, you don't know, child should not be well.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
La wanted you to see this, Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
And Jack any Heated rivalry.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
I'm just aware of it. But yeah, I've spent too
much time consuming ship with like my nine and seven
year old to have had time for.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Them because it's just a lot of ass.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
It's just a lot of they were out in like
the first fifteen minutes because that's nice.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Because I was watching, like I started getting self conscious
about my ass. I was like, Oh, yeah, that's the ass.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's what I That's why I think Mormon should watch it,
like because it's, uh, it's like one of the only
shows really objectifying the male body. So when you think
about your ass, miles, women feel happened to all men
watch and be like, wait, should I be twenty three
with a fully waxed ass?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I remember coming out this show. I'm like, damn, this
is my ass.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Damn checking it out? Yeah, No, I love it. I'm
taking in all of the content I've gone in deep.
I know, I think I know everything about the show,
and I don't even I actually don't even think I
like the show that much. I like the discourse around
the discourse around the show. Maybe that's what's underrated. The
discourse around heated rivalry is just as good as heated revery, like.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And what's like, what's what's been life giving.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
In terms of the discourse around like really trying to
break apart? Well, first off, it is really I think
it's it's it's executing my horniest fantasy that I could
ever have, which is that if your art is good
enough and you just get a little bit of money,
your show can explode to if the executives just stay
out of the way and you go to Canada with

(19:43):
thirty six days, you two can make an amazing show.
And but really, though I do think it's I hope
it's going to change the TV industry, holy, because we've
been spending like a million dollars and then it sucks, right,
and then the use this show two dollars and it's
unknown talent and all the things they say you're not
supposed to do. And so that's really a good in
a horny fantasy of mine as a television writer. And

(20:04):
then I think other dynamics of just really trying to
understand why people love it and going into like seeing
two men together takes away some of the gender dynamics
of like a female to male romance, which always inherently
has some danger to it or some power dynamics. And
so what does love look like when neither of you
are afraid the other is going to kill each other
or at least it'll be a fair fight, like you'll

(20:26):
both go down, and how does that change a love story?
And why is that so compelling to watch? And the
fact that women are the number one purveyors of M
to M content. I didn't know that until the show
came out, Like women are the ones most taking in
male to male born especially in books.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
That makes sense. I mean, yeah, yeah, better than one, right, Jack,
I've always seld you that's why the first girl is
going to be a woman, And Jack's like two dicks
are better than one.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
I didn't realize it was like such a sort of
I mean that that makes sense. It feels like when
you look at the shows that get made by streaming platforms,
it's like squid Game is great until they realize it's
a hit. Yeah, K Bob, Demon Hunters comes out of
like Netflix is now like we don't need to buy.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Warner Brothers until they're like we do.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Because we make our own stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
It was thrown away though they got like a garage
sale yeah yeah, and a lot of hits.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's like you was thrown away on Lifetime and Netflix
picked it up. But it's odd because the industry is
not learning the lesson of like take a lower financial risk.
Let the artists have have some authorial value, Let them
make actually good art and then put up on your platform. Instead,
they're like, if like I literally have been told this raise,

(21:46):
we'll make your movie if Rihanna stars in it. I
was like, Rihanna won't even make music. We can't look
for any other actress, And they're like, just Rihanna. It's
such a crazy way to look at the business.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, because because all these people, like we say all
the time, like in development, they're not filmmakers themselves, so
they have no understanding of the art form and they
just look everything as like a marketing number and be like, well,
this project will only perform if this talent is attached,
and if not, this is not a good business maneuver.
Rather than like all like you just think of all
the weird movies that were made in the seventies, eighties
and part of the nineties where they's like, I don't know, dude, yeah, dude,

(22:21):
make a fucking movie about this guy and how is
he might be pregnant?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Sure, are you talking about the best movie? Yeah, But
I'm just saying like it was so experimental in the
sense or they're just like, I'm just fucking let's do
stuff rather than how are we going to maximize profit
every single well.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, and also the algorithm they're following is incorrect, which
I think we've always known. Anyone watching TV knows, any
artist knows. But I hope finally they're like, maybe we
following the math the wrong math equation. Maybe we should
look it up our mathe math.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, or they're gonna be like, we need a show
with George Cloudy and Brad Pitt making out. I'd be like,
that's not the fucking well.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean, I don't know that would really do well.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I didn't see wolves either, so I can't. I can
neither confirm nor deny that.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
You can just phrase stuff with AI right now.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
And Secret Lives of Mormon Housewives.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, I added housewife on accident because I love housewives,
but it is just the Secret Lives of Mormon wives.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well might as.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well be housewives because it's basically Hulu's attempts to have
a housewives franchise. Okay, I just saw one of the
producers and your chat saying all the husbands are closeted.
I would like to co sign that as well. The
men are so horny to be on camera. They're like
trying to get in all the drama, and I this
is one of the darkest, one of the darkest reality

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shows I've ever seen. Like and I listen, trigger warning
is your viewers. But it's like, oh, we're here to
see like Mormons be swingers and ruin their lives. And
then episode three, one of the husbands is like, hey,
I think I'm abusive because I was molested as a
child in the church. And then we like spend time
on that and then he's like, I think that's why
I got on Tender and cheated on my wife for
five years. And she's like, you know what, I'll forgive you.

(24:04):
Let's do it. Let's do a duet on Dancing with
the Stars to you cheating on me on Tender for
five years because you were secretly molested in the church
as a child.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I mean what?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
And this is like and sometimes I'm like, do people
watching know what they're watching, because that's what you're watching.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Right right right? Everything just like that, Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, there's just there's just so much trauma. They were all, oh,
I should tell you, guys, I grew up in Utah.
For eight years, and so this is I was just
like what felt like the only brunette in a school
of one thousand blondes, and so Utah content speaks deeply
to me. I also went to the Church of latterday
Saints every Sunday for eight years because I was like

(24:46):
people pleasing little bit and wanted to fit in. I
was like, maybe Mormon, I'll be Mormon, Like whatever you
guys need.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
And so you were going to get caught lacking when
Gabriel blows that horn.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh no, listen, I'm hold hold onto the iron rod.
I'm going straight to to the heavens. And so I
think the show's really fascinating too, because I think a
lot of the indoctrination that's actually happening like we see
it in culture now of just like extreme Christianity. I
think Mormonism shows that really well. And now we're having

(25:15):
a show where they all grew up on it, they
all still believe it, and they all have the worst
lives ever. Like dads are being like you're a whore,
you should get married, and you're like, hey, maybe maybe
maybe religion's bad.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's not does sound like a good dad, not a
great dad?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
No, and also get this mouse. He's a motherfucking stepdad.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't think sepdads can call you a whore.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Sometimes the stepdads aren't the dads that stepped up.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, yeah, you know sometimes on rare occasions.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
One of the moms got top to bottom plastic surgery
and came back season two and looks exactly like her daughter.
And the before and after are like Jared Letto as
a person and Jared Letto as the Italian man, and
like before and after it's like unbelievable, And now it's
like two of the same women walking around, but it's

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a mom and daughter.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Wow, that's weird.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
The dream it's like something from a sci fi Like
all of this shit is like it seems like it's
ounds like sci fi, like something like yeah, horribly challenging
like Oscar Bait, and it's like, no, it's Super Labs.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well it's a reality show, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
And like this was just another example, but a fun
one of just saying like the hollowing out of our
humanity in like this specific way.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, but also it's kind of I love it so
much because of the darkness in it.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's like, no, that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think yeah, because I think the housewive shows can
get really glossy and Mormon wives like they're exploding, Like
like a woman is like, she's like, I went to
church today and then I don't know why I came
home and threw a chair through a window, and now
I have domestic violence charges on me. And you're like,
she's like, but I went to church today and I
was trying to be so good, and I don't know.
There's something about seeing something so real on television.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Wow, unblinking look into the void on something called Secret
Lives of Warm.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
And by the way, someone else would describe this show
entirely different than someone else would be like, so Whitney's
the villain, Demmy has drama. I'm over here being like,
do you remember when she went to church and threw
a chair through the window that night. I've got a
different take on it.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,
we'll talk about the news.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
And we're back, And we did want to check in
on RFK Junior and the Department of Human Services is
human Resources The Department of Human Resources latest move on
unrecommending a third of the recommended childhood vaccine means. One

(28:00):
expert called it the largest change in our vaccination schedule
in modern American history. These are vaccines that protect against rotovirus, influenza,
hepatitis A, hepatitis B, a big win for hepatitis H.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
In terms of the news.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
A lot of other shit, and now it will they
will fall into the shared Clinical decision making category, which
shifts responsibility from initiating vaccination to individual families from healthcare systems,
which the way they justified it, which I see what
they're doing here. They're like, Denmark did it. You didn't

(28:36):
get mad at them. Denmark has six million people, not
three hundred and thirty million people. The US, by the way,
has twenty seven million people alone who aren't insured at all.
And Denmark has a universal healthcare right end quote, a
national registry that tracks every patient. So it's not exactly

(28:59):
apples to app but it's just putting everyone at severe risk.
And I just wanted to this is going to get
us into like this new trend that we're seeing in
the news. Where they were asked about criticisms from career scientists,
and the spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human

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Services said pandemic era distrust of public health agencies has
since spilled over into broader vaccine concerns.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Broader vaccine concerns.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
So, but this idea of like, I feel like there's
an overall trend from this administration that's kind of being
followed into journalism that is just shifting from like reporting
to like, I don't know what's up with you, Like I.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
Just like ask people like what they think, think cool,
and then report that as if it's news, and like
they're justifying this massive healthcare shift being like I don't know,
people aren't really like fucking with doctors anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I guess, yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
So and this is like this is the CBS news
like thing where they're like, we for too long, we
have relied on experts. Now we're just listening to the people.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Listening to you, uninformed person, what's your take on this
highly scientific debate? Yes, exactly, I'm not feeling it. I'm
not feeling it. Oh okay, So maybe that's the fucking
direction for the country. It's so upsetting too, because then
you have people like Bill Cassidy, that senator who's a
doctor who they're like, you know who voted to confirm RFK,

(30:36):
and everyone's like, are you fucking dumb dude, Like you
know what this guy's gonna do. He's now so upset
about what RFK is doing, being like, but as a
doctor who treated patients for decades, my top priorities protecting
children and families, multiple children have died or hospitalized from measles.
Goes on, and he's like, all of this was preventable
with safe and effective vaccines. Okay, bro, you fucking confirmed him.

(30:58):
You confirmed him.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
And it's it's not like there was no way to
like the story of what he did in Samoa, like
with the twenty nineteen measles outbreak, like that it is exact.
You couldn't ask for a better illustration of exactly what
his priorities were and what he was going to do
once he got into office. They like, we've talked about

(31:20):
it but before, but since the mainstream media is usually
more interested in covering like what are the vibes, what
do people think are the what are the markets saying
this will do to the you know, rates of childhood mortality.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
So he there was.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
A accident at a hospital where the doctor accidentally like
put something into a vaccine that he wasn't supposed to.
They instead of using I think saline, they used a
muscle relaxing and two children died, and so they paused
vaccines in Samoa to like because they got freaked out

(31:57):
by that, and RFK Junior pounced on that, like the
whole anti vax community. You know, anytime there's an injury
anywhere in the world related to vaccines, no matter like
how accidental or one off it is, they fucking swarm.
He flew to the country, he did a big press

(32:18):
tour with Cheryl Hints there, made a lot of statements
about how like that what they're doing here is like important,
and then a massive measles outbreak happened like months after
his visit.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, and play Devil's Advocate. Don't you think what he's
doing is an incredible, smart, unique and brilliant way to
commit mass murder. It's so hard to kill a lot
of people at one time, and he's I think he's got.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Some great ideashing it. Yeah, yeah, Jesus, Yeah, it's all
so fucking grim now. It's like just to think about,
like even in those examples where he's like well in Denmark,
you know, like he cites Denmark and are they always
cite those countries, But it's like even like studies that

(33:06):
come out of those countries disprove everything that he says
to He's like, well, point to them, He's like, but
they're also saying the opposite of what you're saying too,
Like after.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
That Musles outbreak, he was writing letters to the Simon
Prime Minister saying asking if the children's deaths were caused
by a defective vaccine or a mutant strain of Like
he just was making up conspiracy theories to explain his fuck,
Like he he cannot be taught, he cannot like learn
a lesson.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
He's just Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's kind of the same way they sell perfume to us,
where they're like did you know this perfumes from France?
And you're like, what a French perfume?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I need it?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
And you're like like yes, smell like shit though, but
you're like it's from France. You're like, oh, okay, Like
reverse it.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's like this perfume is from America. It's like, okay,
we make a lot of garbage. Like just because it's
from somewhere else doesn't mean we're not shipping you dog shit, right,
the Denmark the other country of it. Yeah, they go
to Denmark.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, but in keeping with a I don't know what's
up with you a model of the administration and now
media that Miles we talked on yesterday's trending about this
new like one of the big news stories about the
incursion into Venezuela, the kidnapping of their sovereign leader, the

(34:26):
war crimes committed thereabouts. One of the big stories that
came out is like, Yo, someone hit big with a
bet on that, like they bet right ahead of it
that Maduro was going to be removed and he got
removed and that person made four hundred and ten thousand dollars,
so that was.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, but this is like a whole trend is that
they're covering the betting markets on the news.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, it's like a combination of things, right, because like
our economy is cooked and more and more people are
becoming more nihilistic about their financial futures, so that betting
like a huge attractive thing, like whether it's crypto or
shit like this, and maybe if I fucking hit big
that that will help get me out of like the
rock I'm under. So polymarket and Calshie, these quote unquote

(35:12):
prediction markets become more and more appealing, especially now for
real world events, and like in the last couple of days,
there's just so many headlines and clips that really feel
like we've completely lost the plot. Like right now, they're articles,
right articles talking about the prediction markets are saying this
Trump official is next to go in twenty twenty six,
Like what And so it says cash Pattel at fifty

(35:35):
four percent, we got Amy Gleason, the acting Administrator of
the of DOGE and Tulsi Gabbard right there neck and
neck at forty seven percent, the Director of National Intelligence,
Like what are we doing? So how is poly market
betting volume or Calshi betty volume relevant to the real
world we live in? And like the stories we talked

(35:56):
like yesterday about someone making four hundred grand off of
like the Knight before being like but will be out
by January thirty first, that's pretty relevant because you're like,
what the fuck is going on? But like using betting
markets as a basis to report is so odd, Like
you could say you can say cash Hotel is likely
to leave because he's a total failure and no one
seems to like him and he's shady and I could

(36:18):
go on, but like I don't need to bolster that
argument with And people are betting on that, right is it?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Because it's assumed to all be like insider trading. So
the reason why you're reporting on it is because the
person placing that bed is probably everyone who works in
the White House.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
And there's a few reasons. So like, okay, Tulsi Gabbard, right,
Also like she was in third of the next person, queen, Yeah, right,
so I love your.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Power.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, I'm like, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Have Gucci, And now Toulsi Gabbard, you're really going with it.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
You can remove the betting from it and say Toulsi
Gabbard is most likely to leave because idiologically, you know
some she she's sort of pronounced herself as like an
isolationist and she is now like raw rayeing imperial expansion
under the US. And again it turns out she's been
iced out of meetings. She had nothing to do with

(37:10):
the Maduro mission, Like she's on the outs, just on
the journalism of it rather than what's cal she betting on,
Like you can readable news, okay, Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
So that so that requires reporting expensive and the truth
cannot sponsor that story. Right. On the other hand, yep,
we get we get a nice little partnership with like
a you know, AI betting market or some bullshit like
which seems too sick, Like it seems like I'm making
that up.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
That that's too cynical. That's not that.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Like CNN has a big partnership with one of these, with.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
With cal she So this is this is CNN reporting
on what just what's happened in Venezuela and now sets
their eyes on Greenland. But it's all done in this
like Calshi bit well now, seeming chief data analyst Harry Enton.
So the Europeans taking it seriously? What about the prediction markets?

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Yeah, are people in the public taking it seriously? The
people who are putting their money where their mouths, they're
absolutely taking it seriously. I mean, take a look here
the chance that Trump buys any of Greenland by the
end of his term.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
On Friday, it was just twelve percent.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Whoa way up there now to thirty six percent, a
tripling in less than a week. My goodness, gracious, they
are very much taking what happened in Venezuela, Adding on
to the comments from the Trump administration of what they
might want to do with Greenland, absolutely taking it seriously.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Just so you know. The whole time, there's a Calshi
ticker at the bottom talking about odds of like all
kinds of shit happening in politics right now.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
Not a majority chance at this point, but when this
part gets crazier.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
So that's like, if Trump buys Greenland three times as
much as it.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Was, that's for buying Greenland by other means?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, what about by other means? You mean fucking kinetic warfare?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
What about if he takes a short term lease on.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, what are the APO? What's the
APR look like right now?

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Like this is the buying at thirty six percent right now?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
In any way anyway, So of course, so this is
absolutely unhinged. This is the fucking news.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Sorry, one was if he's gonna buy it, and then
the other one is in any kinetic warfare? Yeah, kinetic warfare?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, I believe they said anyway, but what that.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Means is is war murderer.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, they're like and like another way, girlfriend, he can
pay for it, but then like there's other ways.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
This is just all this is all part of just
a larger scheme to complete. So first of all, like right,
CNN and CNBC have signed deals with Kouhi to integrate
this bullshit into their news coverage. Quote. The CNN deal,
which starts immediately, involves the integration of Calci data across
the NN programming a new Kowhi powered real time news
sticker that will rendering segments that feature Calcy data. The

(40:02):
CNN deal, which begins the twenty twenty six will incorporate
real time prediction data into CNBC's editorial coverage across TV,
digital and subscription channels. Calcy will also create a CNBC
page on its site featuring CNBC selected markets. So this
makes manipulating the news even easier. Right, So you start
with the premise that they go well. Betting markets or

(40:23):
markets are a good indicator of how people are feeling
versus like flawed polling or journalism which can be biased
or whatever. So therefore these betting markets are quote closer
to the reality of a situation than anything else. That's
like the premise they're trying to operate off of, like
in that CNN but it's like, oh, they're taking it seriously.
But since the betting volume is pretty low on these sites.

(40:45):
All it takes is someone to place a huge bet
and you can swing the numbers in whatever direction you want.
And now you're giving the impression that people are like
warming up to or cooling on a certain idea. So
in that Greenland example, so Harry Een, Harry Enton is like, goodness, gracious,
great balls of fire. Look at that movement as if
that were some objective indication of anything. So CNN treated

(41:09):
that swinging numbers like it was news when it very
well could have been Stephen Miller Don Junior betting to
create the headline that Americans believe we can take Greenland
or buy Greenland. So anyway you found, they found a
way to manufacture consent and somehow create an opportunity for
people tell you.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
The truthiness of that premise is so viable. As someone
who wants on this podcast argued that the Bachelor franchise
was better than polling data, the idea that the polling
system journalism being flawed and that this is a better
way to tell Like the moment you said of Myles
was like, oh yeah, but that's true, and like you remember,

(41:47):
that's really painful because obviously that's it works so well,
I can't believe it's not a regulation against that. And
also I can, but I.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Mean in that sense, like in those ways like you
do see like oh, there is some information to parse
through in that way, but like this is the quote
efficient market hypothesis that they're like operating off of, and
to do that to then say this is our reality,
this is the news, this is how Americans feel about
a thing I think is perverse and just an absolute aberration.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Well, I was just so curious as a sports fan,
is that how they use sports betting when ESPN shit happens?
So this model is like built and baked and now
they're just put it on politics.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Basically, Yeah, I think so. But even with sports betting,
you have like that, you have different like people creating
the odds, and I mean, I guess the ESPN has
like partnered with a specific one, but everybody, nobody is
changing the outcome of a game by like altering the line.

(42:47):
I mean, unless there's like where is this this.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Fan that's more just like hey, how are you going
to get in on the action? Here are the odds?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Whereas yeah, and it's covering it in a way that's
like excited about invading Greenland, like an idea that's so fucking,
so fucking bonkers. But yeah, it is just taking the
thing from sports applying it to warfare and people's ability
to like.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Survive, be alive. I don't like.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I think this is similar to like some of the
things we've like trying to look at what's happening in
TV and pop culture, and but I think you have
to be like omnivorous in like your taste of like okay,
like this data point like jumped out at me. Whereas
like they have a partnership, like a long term monetary partnership,

(43:34):
and in so doing, they're also like locking themselves to
a thing that can be easily and completely opaquely manipulated.
Like there's no way to there's no way to trace
the vets that are being made on poly market.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
And the premise is that journalism has ethics, which is
a premise we've abandoned. But you still turn on CNN
and you go, oh, I'm watching the news, right. It's
like the idea that like you're not I know you
weren't for a long time, but now you're really not
watching the news. It's you know, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah. Yeah, Well at the jud Legum on the popular information,
the substact that he has called it the casino fication
of the news. Yeah, everything is casino. Everything's mafia like.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
The other ways, like just like calling any any way
buying versus any way, Like the administration is casino. It
is fucking mobsters. But like the degree to which it's
just completely remade, like all these things that are supposed
to be objective or oppositional.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Is pretty I mean it's yeah, and it kind of
allowed in this weird way. It's like allows people with
a lower income to act like the oligarchs who put
money into things and say, I think I can get
this outcome if I back this political candidate and maybe
then this oil company I've bought that's based in Venezuela
can not be profitable or all these other things where

(44:58):
you can see that there. This is just kind of
This is also how a lot of hyper wealthy people
look at things too, except it's not betting on you, tush.
It's putting money behind a specific political party or whatever.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, that they know is going to pay out in
some way or another. But because by putting money behind it,
it like puts weight on the scale.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I had that thought recently and like doing research for
one of our upcoming Icon episodes though, Like this is
the troupe. Administration is giving people the ability to cause
play as rich people. So it's like it allows them
to like this allows them to pretend like they're like

(45:40):
betting on the stock market or whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
This is the robin Hood or acorn of Yeah, what
happens in our lives. Yeah, this is like, hey, you
too can be a part of if we murder someone
for oil when really you can't someone else, but you're
going to help give them money as they Oh.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
You're not going to make as much money as Chevron,
but a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, but you can get
in on it too, Like.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
God, I hope they start doing lots of commercials with
mixed race couples living their best.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Lives, vote non care. That would be nice. That would
be nice. Actually, they'll be like the one token gay
couple too.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Loved robin Hood. If you made atension of the commercials,
if you owned a sweater and you had a wife,
you loved robin Hood and you got rich.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
back to talk about duff Man and Disneyland. Oh, thank god,
and we're back, and actually you said thank god, but

(46:43):
these are two sets stories about duff Man and Disneyland.
So I just want to stop talking about the casinoification
of our fucking like war torn earth. Yeah, this is
this is the thing that happens every once in a
while that like you're reminded that The Simpsons is still
making TV shows and characters are being phased out.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, yeah, including now duff Man. I didn't know this,
but apparently the last episode he hath been retired. So
the whole thing wasn't like a straightforward like and duff
Man died. They did like a parody of Severance, and
there's you know, this is like something that duff Man said,
goes the Dough Corporation has retired that character forever. All

(47:23):
the forms of advertising are now pass a corporate spokesman,
print ads, TV spots. Today's kids can't even sing the
jingles And it's funny.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
He is a beer salesman. Yeah he aimed at children.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, dressed as like
mister Miltchik from Severance. They're so like the apparently they
were just kind of people were just saying like, yeah,
that's sort of him leaving is more just kind of
a commentary on corporate culture and capitalism. But apparently, like
Hanka's area was like very happy that he doesn't have
to do that voice anymore because it's very taxing on

(47:56):
his vocal courts. I'm like a pooh, which was very
taxing on his soul.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Maybe easy or not so much, but yeah, it was
like some honey in his throat.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, Pool Actually that's why he kept going with it. It
was just really nice. Yeah, I mean, isn't that roughly
like oh yeah, I mean I guess if you're doing
that for numerous takes for hours, that's probably gonna do.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
So there's duff Man had that many lines ever, No, no,
a couple of dough Man episode.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, yeah, fuck, I gotta do a whole duff Man.
But yeah, hey, he's not dead though, I guess he's
not dead. He's just you know, just going on a
nice farm. Yeah, nice farms somewhere. Yeah. I should have
bet on that. On the last.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Episode of The Simpsons, you guys have watched because I
have nephews who love the Simpsons, and I was like amazing,
and then they were like, like them from the past.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Two years, those are the best episodes. I was like,
oh wow, I haven't seen a new episode of The
Simpsons since season fifteen. Maybe, oh wow, yeah, it's been
a while. I mean, because I'm such an old head,
like I'm I'm going like seasons two through eight constantly.
I just I'll put that on the background.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I have this terrible disease called being a woman in
comedy in twenty twelve, and so anytime I watch The Simpsons,
the ghosts of a thousand boyfriends and hookups visiting through
the characters to let me know, this is what true
comedy is. While it is a phenomenal show, it's not

(49:28):
a phenomenal when a man with a mustache you never
should have made out with visits you each time you watch.
And so I haven't put it on in some time.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's like I showed my son
the Christmas episode because I was just trying to put
Christmas no no, no, no, oh, like it was like
what I hadn't seen. But then I was just kind
of like I realized, I'm like, man, I haven't checked
on this show in ages, like for me, it's just
a nostal It's just nostalgia for me from being a

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kid and watching it on TV, like and yeah, thank god.
I was into telling women about City of God million films.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
I would have preferred that I only got the Batman's
and the Simpsons, Like.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Oh, I was like, you City of God.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
So close.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
It's definitely a city of these kids. They're from the Favellas. Dude,
they're not even rangers that kids crying for real, dude,
look what he does with the camera. Here he does
I can.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Picture you the souls and bedrooms before you make put
your arm around a girl saying that I love this
best friend. Connection.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Are the performances so good? And then we finished the
movies like that was chill, right, She's like, yeah, that
was pretty good. I got you want to go in
my room? I don't know, like look at some stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
You want to look at my City of God.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I've got the whole I've got the whole Life Aquatic
album on vinyl, but just sougeors doing the David Bowie covers.
You know that was him, dude, and Life that's that's
not got it?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
And we are different because I thought like life aquatic
was overrated, and I would.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Tell women about what was wrong with actually time. Okay,
hold on, he needed Owen Wilson.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Okay, at this conversation, it's like, it's like I feel
like I'm an inception. I'm being pulled back into a dream.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
But to take us back, all right, Let's move on
to Disneyland.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Oh yeah, where a brutal fight broke out last week
after a group cut the line to catch up with
other family members at the Indiana Jones Adventure. And apparently
the cutter was the one throwing punches, and the person
who objected to the cutting had to get stitches in
his face, and his wife said that he refused.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
To based on this person on Reddit claimed to be there.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Okay, yeah, so the you refuse to hit back not
because it was the right thing to do, but because
he didn't want to get blacklisted by Disney.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Dude, that's the most Disney ass shit. Yeah, someone's pummeling you,
and you're like, just don't get blacklisted, Just don't get listed,
don't you don't you dare hit back? Yeah? You get
your ship split right now.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Apparently this is a rising trend at Disney, which we've
talked before how Disney basically just kept raising the prices
over the like the pandemic mage attendance drop at their parks.
They were like, let's see how much we can get
these fuckers to spend. And it is another another one

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of those things where in elastic demand, people will go
to Disney whether or not they have to spend.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You know, can I ask payment?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
You two have been to Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I am taking my We're going for my kid's birthday
because kids under three are free, because we're like, bro,
this is the last time go for a minute. But
the last time I went was two years ago with
my nieces.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, okay, okay, what about you.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Jack, We went I think a year and a half
forward two It was for my eldest birthday. I think
seventh birthday.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Okay, okay, So so recently you've been recently?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
You know the game?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I mean, I don't go often though, like that that
visit last year. Prior to that, I've been made like
eight or nine years okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I I think I went when I was a kid.
I have no memory of that. I went as the
first time as an adult three years ago. Best day
of my life, Like I've made disney adult jokes and
then I went to Disneyland. I was like, oh, I've
been wrong. It was it was so nice to leave
our shattered glass of reality that just cuts you every
day and walk into heaven. And I think they're offering

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another fantasy, which is like, and you know what kicked
the shit out of someone and then go to a
circuit leg.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I mean, I think this is It's not shocking because
it's the same reason in there there were so many
fights at Chuck E Cheese is you have stressed out parents,
spread thin financially, trying to make their kids happy, and
just a small spark is all it takes for shit
to kick off. Although Chuck e Cheese also serves alcohol,
so there's that. But I think the other inputs are

(54:18):
still there for Disneyland, and in the stress of our
current times, it might as well be booze. So I like,
I'm not surpricause there you do see more and more
kind of like conflict, like people getting out of hand
at Disneyland and Disney World.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I mean, people, did you see the fight that just
happened at Broadway's Mama Mia, No grown ass man, I'm
on his side was screaming at a row of seven
blonde women in a way where he was like, they're
singing during the musical and the room for my nieces,
and maybe they threw a cup at him, but it's like, yeah,
we all just want some tiny nice moment to go

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and listen to abba songs and pretend that everything's nice
for a second. We just want to like eat our
out and Kenny pretin everything's nice. And if someone's gonna
try to take that away, got to kick the shit
out of them, right right.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I don't. I don't want to go back.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
I don't want to go back to reality so bad
that I'm going to beat their ship and get arrested
because they're shattering my illusion. I will say you do
research into if you do research into like what to do,
where to go in Disneyland and like how to plan
your day, that ship will that that almost like ruined
it for me. The best parts of the experience of

(55:30):
because people are like, you got to rope drop it.
If you're going to make that ride, you got a
rope drop You got to be there thirty minutes beforehand,
and then you like hit this, this, this, and the
best part of the experience for me was just like chilling,
finding a place to like sit, eat lunch, and like
watch the steamboat go by, and you know, it was your.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Seven year old child's ideal time.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
I was going to say, Jack, this is speaking more
to your mental health than how to have a great
day just.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
A steamboat go by.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
It's just like the overall atmosphere can be nice if
you're not like stressing out too much about everything that
like you you need to.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Have the same day by going to the library and
sitting in the park that you've just described.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
At Disneyland, no steamboat, yeah, no, damn steamboat.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
All right, And at least the gangs at Disneyland, I
know I could beat the shit out of them, you
know what I mean. I'm not worried about those. Yeah
there's gangs. Wait really yeah yeah yeah, yeah, there's magic
rabbits there. Used to.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I think they cleaned them up a little bit. I
think they were largely driven by the seasoned pass holders
or the annual pass holders. People would just like get
annual passes and then like the same groups of people
would go there and they had like patches, like you know,
real gangs like instead of having instead of having tattoos,
they would have like jean jacket patches that would be

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like your magic rabbit.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
This is such a reframe of the word gangs. So
you're talking a bunch of adults had a dnim jacket
with like Mickey Mouse on it and became a game.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, like Disney Villains.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, you really want to have DV on your fucking
vest and.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Strollers in some of these gangs.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
How many of these? Like so if you like really
zoom in, you start seeing some Nazi ship in there too.
If you're like, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
What I'm gonna believe. The gangs were like, we're the
Ariyan Mickey Mouses.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, We're the Ubermensch Mickey's. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
But these just seem like fun clubs, right listen.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's just we need more third spaces and we need community.
Soever you want to get it, join a gang at Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
My theory is that, like one of the reasons Disneyland
and post apocalyptic movies hit so hard is because we
just want a walkable city and like those are the
only places that we can go to like have that.
It's like World Europe or Disneyland and a post apocalyptic wasteland.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Those are those are.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
On Amazon Otherwise otherwise you're gonna get hit by a car.
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Speaker 2 (58:05):
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Speaker 2 (58:21):
Actually Tisdale is the one that's willin right.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yes, I think when you read it, you're sort of
like you're the villain in your own story. But then
Hillary Duff's husband came out and did a bit sort
of letting us all know that Ashley Tisdale's the villain,
which is so believable. But when your husband gets involved,
now it's flipped. Why is the husband getting involved in
the drama. Maybe it's Hillary, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Something not un pack juicy juicy.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Well, I feel like this would be an entire episode
if I asked the next follow up question I had.
So we're going to move forward, Is there a work
of media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Well, I think I shouted out a million of them,
but to shout out another one, I will shout out
the cinematographer and aspiring director who has a TikTok account
where she recreates the heated rivalry lighting and shots and
takes you through like how how to light a scene
to make it look that way? And I gotta tell you,

(59:17):
I think she just spawned like a thousand new female
GPS and I love it.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Yeah, I mean, what a great way to just show
off the skills.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Let me find out her I got I shoul drop
her handle, let me look her up. Okay, wait here
she is. It's Valentina v vee and she does all
of her talking head videos explaining the cinematography in the
exact same lighting she's using like an anamorphic lens, So
when you're watching her videos, it looks like heated rivalry
as she talks about how to shoot heated rivalry.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Nice miles people find you? Is there workimedia you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Find me everywhere at miles of gray. Check out for
twenty eight fiance Sophia Alexandra. We're gonna get back into
it this week. And also check out the new football
soccer podcast In a Footy with Me, Jammel Johnson and
Chris Martin. Not of cold Play, just of regular stand
up fame. Yeah, so check that out more. Just it's

(01:00:16):
it's a good time. It's a good time work in media.
I like, I'm just I've just been I've just been
cramming the new nance guys. It's there's a there's there's
some really interesting stuff this season. A lot of new
people on the show that I really appreciate because I
hate when they bring back old cast members. We just

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got a new group of absolute weirdos and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I love it and I love it so very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah fresh meat. Oh yeah, it's a creepy way of
saying that.

Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
But City of God. Yeah, and hey, and if you
want to know about City of God find me in
the year two thousand and five.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O,
Brian Blue Sky Jack ob the number one Instagram Jack Underscore,
Oh Underscore, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
I like to keep it consistent.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I like to tweet from Brent at Merman five, who
tweeted me, I'm going to start a band called LMFAO
my uncle, Can I be in It?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Which is a conversation that actually must have happened.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at
Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You
can go to the description of this episode wherever you're
listening to it, and they are the bottom. You will
find the footnote, which is where we link off to
the information that we talked about in today's episode. We
also look off to a song but we think you
might enjoy. Has he been playing a lot of great

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songs before we start recording?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yeah? Is there a song that you think that people
might enjoy?

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a track. Mickey one of my favorite
artists for the last year or two. I've recently we
went out on one of the tracks, Rockman, which is
a single he came out. I found like an edit
of it that's kind of more dancy, that's really dope.
So this is McGee the Rockman three sixty Edits about
t h R E s I X t Y. You're
gonna have to find that on the SoundCloud. But it's dope.

(01:02:14):
It's dope. If you like McGee, this is like a
good nice remix for you, And if you don't, you're
you're gonna fuck with it too. So McGee Rockman three
sixty edit. Check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
We'll link off to that on the SoundCloud in the footnote.
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