June 26, 2026 • 62 mins
In episode 2081, Jack and Miles are joined by filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian and co-host of 1Upsmanship, Michael Swaim, to discuss… Establishment v Chill About The DSA Primary Wins…, Scammers Are Having a Field Day With GTA VI Pre-Order and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Babies are so selfish, Like is the thing that like
nobody tells you assholes, dude, they don't, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
When I say, daddy got to work the thing I
always wanted, which is how come right as my dog
seems to be almost smart enough that it could talk
to me and be a little buddy, it dies.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
This is like.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Fully, you know, like he just and it's crazy to
see it. Like it's just you know, as rewarding as
it is to see a switch on like a light.
Like three hours ago, this fool did not know colors,
what color was what? And now three hours later we
can go bring me the orange ball, bring me the
(00:52):
blue ball, bring me and it's like, wow, you can
isolate the moment he understood what that we're saying, Oh,
they must be referring to that quality. They must be
about color. It's like, man, I didn't. It's so I mean,
it was pretty granular, but it's weird to pinpoint it
or like you know, the first step you witness, you're like, wow,
that was it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I didn't know talking and I had confided a lot
of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I was hoping to say one syllable, hoping he wouldn't
get that gene from me. The talking gene.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He like pinpoints the moon like a hawk all the
time in the daytime.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Just feels like the electromagnetic few. He just knows. He's
like even indoors. Yeah, god shit, before he could walk.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We found him standing at night in the yards.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Not Hello the Internet and welcome to season four forty four,
Episode five of Dialys Hi Guys. It was the production
of iHeart Radio. As a podcast, we take a deep
dive into America's share consciousness through the day's news. We
(02:10):
also have a new non news history version of the
daily's like I was dropping each Monday morning, where you
do a deep dive into the like I see the
lens of a different icon.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
First episode was Einstein's. Second episode was Erkle, first co
hosts of the guest of the first episode is with
us today and that's mainly what we're gonna be talking about,
just a retrospective of our Einstein episode.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I was on did I do that?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You did it? That's one thing about early parenthood is
that things I don't remember big chunks anyways, Uh, what.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Do we just do?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We just did Indiana Jones, Yep, we got Uncle Samuel
Elliot Earhart. We got we got Uncle Sam coming up tight,
nice tight episode with Robert Evans coming your way this
coming Monday. You ever wondered why so many people are
dressed like this man?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Why Sam?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Why he's on stilts? Still haven't figured that out?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think I think we came to the idea that
it was circumstraction or a projection of America is like yeah,
like it's artificially pumped up. It's like, now it's a
guy on stilts. Man, this country is doing.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The taller Sam, I'll kick your ankles out. You'll fucking
let your man ass shit. It is Friday, June twenty sixth,
twenty twenty six mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's National Safer Workplace Day. Okay, can you make this
place a little bit safer? It's also take your Dog
to Work Day. It's also now.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You said that day you're talking about your friend take
your dog or take.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Your dog to work? Hey, man, you have to take
my dog to work. Bro National Food Truck Day. Oh
that that that was such a great era of like
two thousand and nine ten, like the beginnings of like
you go to go on Twitter to find out this
truck is handing out savory pancakes, a.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Bit of a truck chaser myself exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Exactly, and a bunch of other weird trade days. National
Canoe Day shout out to a canoe, love canoe.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
The canoe lobby. I'm a lobbyot that focuses on canoes,
specifically of all sorts. One client. Yeah, uh, my name
is Jack O'Brien aka Maha. Y'all got thrush. Everybody drank
all the milk with the puss. We just want some
(04:33):
mumps and Trump to gush about the type of people
steer steal a bear, cub drunk that one. Curtis to Christy,
I'm a Gucci man. I'm so sorry. I wish I
could have stuck the landing. But we all remember Rosa Parks.
What a song? What a song?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Also a person too, I'm not familiar. We'll talk about yea, yeah, yeah,
what a song?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Huh what a song?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I remember Rosa Parks the song. I just love the
idea of someone.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Did not care for the song that they so kindly
named after her.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh oh, I'm sure they asked her. Huh.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't think they did. Oh, I don't think they did.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And she was like, what the fuck is She's like,
who the fuck are these guys? Outcast?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Shout out to Outcast. I'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Miles Gray, Okay, baby out Sorry, I'm gonna do this one, babe,
Babe bye. Steal pipets, but just the mini ones. Okay.
Shout out to snarfila because you're talking about how I
was stealing micropipettes in my biology lab in school when.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Paul v was on to what end?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just because they were huggins, No, just because I was
just like I love stealing shit from the lab because
there's always like little weird plastic things, tubes, cases, whatever,
the little vials for the PCR, the polymers chain reaction centrifuge,
I sent whatever the thing that is. I used to
take those, and that I would I would try and
(06:04):
say it was for drugs, but I didn't have anything
to put it right right.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was like recreating the cover of like is that
what's the album that has like all the drugs, like
them cooking up drugs in the last is that Cuban link.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
The Beatles drugs? The Beatles?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I love that album by the Beatles, Drugs.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Came right between their classic and their psychedelic.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Only for them.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I need somebody, Drugs, Drugs, Miles. We're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor,
comedian podcaster who co founded Small Beans, which sav Club
called one of the best podcast networks. He was the
head of video of Cracked started helped create many of
(06:50):
our best videos there and podcasts as well. Please welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Is Michael Swan.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Michael Michael Sway a ka in honor of episode four
four four guests like I'm not black, I'm Michael swaym Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, t.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I'm not black, I'm just Swaying. Okay, okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes, swam as is abstract, Yeah yeah, yeah, separate. Thank
you so much. Always happy to be here. Shout out
to Christy, who's recently hopped over and become a recurring
guest on the Small Beans network as well. Oh you
mean there, Big Willie huge fans real name will Pool?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, will Pool? What a name does you ever do?
Like I wonder I know he's listening, remember, like remember
the Simpsons Millpool when he got the cast millhouse combined
with the pool was Millpool will Pool? Anyway, that's some
merch for you.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If you're using your real name, if you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Ever want to or are we out? He goes, he's
revealed his real name before. Right on this show, he
called himself Willpool.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
He has our much smaller networks world.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Maybe I don't know Whirlpool. You know the.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Workshops, the waffle house of his brand workshops.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Anyway, for the rest of the wis Michael. We're thrilled
to have you here. We're going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
going to tell the listeners a couple of the things
we're talking about later in the news section. We're going
to talk about how the establishment Democratic Party is responding
to the d Essay's primary wins in New York City
(08:38):
and basically like demanding an apology, like they have a
lot to explain, they have a lot to.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And that they're not handling it well. I think it's
like anything. It's just like when you're not built for
the new era to emerge, you start going, what.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The heck's are this crib?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
They're not doing it the right way.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the
grand theft Auto six pre order scams.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The scams.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Noam is going to be a big one, guys. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, it's going to be a big one.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Jack.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I think people are going to play this game. I
think it might do bafo bo. So we'll talk about that,
and we will talk about America's Freedom two fifty concert
in DC and a new profile Vanilla Ice that just
dropped on the Atlantic so all of that. Oh thank god,
So they went. They actually went and got boots on
(09:37):
the ground in Vanilla ICE's home, which looks like Versailles.
For some reason, the right is really having a Versailles moment.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's always like that. I remember, like the Queen of Versailles, that,
like that documentary about the woman who tried to build
a Versailles replica, and like in Florida.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, they're just there. I think they're like,
at some subconscious level, just begging for the guilloty.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right right right.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I can't believe that's his house. Shocked to learn that
in this moment that that's his house, I know. I
don't like that was like I thought that was like
Trump's oval office waiting room or some shit.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
No, man, it's Rob van Winkle's living room, repeats himself,
like that filigree dog that's hand laid simulated gold leaf. Man,
I can't afford the real stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
All right, all that plenty more. But first, Michael, we
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Sure let me scroll all the way back up to
the top, because there's just no way I'm going to
pronounce it without my own notes. So I chose the tiri.
It's a word from Tierra del Fuego, Mamila pinote pie,
and that's in my search history because I guess what
it says about me is And this the moment I
(10:55):
want to reflect with gratitude on was that recently my
mom listened to the pilot Jack Jack knows what I'm
talking about, a podcast project I'm working on, and the
episode's about untranslated words that are difficult to translate into English,
and my mom was truly like I understand, you know,
like the magic of research. It's like, how do you
(11:15):
know everything? Or how did you know such a broad
variety of and I'm like, I didn't know any of them.
I've read books and looks through and it is. It's magic.
Especially I realized the sorcery of research is only going
to become more powerful as everyone's off AI And You're like,
I could just look it up, and like, yeah, I
(11:37):
can look stuff up too, but I can also compose
it into meaningful structures of thought. That's going to become
like blows.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
People to my thing. So, Mamila panatze pi.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Is a word that I like from I believe the
Yogin language. Let me make sure I'm right about that. Yeah,
y yeah, the yoglang.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Off the top of my head, you know, I mean
talking about but.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It at one time held the Guinness World Record for
the most concise word of all time, which is wild
because it's long. And it may be long, but try
to think of a shorter way to say It's definition,
which is to two people looking at each other, each
one hoping the other will offer to do something you
both know needs to be done but you don't want
(12:26):
to do. Wow moment, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Who's gonna blink? Ma Miilla penepi. And it's very.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Common in the first two years of raising a kid
with the mom the parents.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Actually, you're like, I did the last one. I did
the last three am to four thirty am your shift.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I believe amazing. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I had a long, complicated thing, but I think we're
a little pressed for time. But so I'm gonna use
this slot to say my racle joke from the opener.
I only interrupt for jokes. I just needed to know that, Jack,
I knew you hadn't introduced the guest yet. You said
we had this guest on for Einstein episode. Later we
had an Rkle episode and I said, oh, did I
do that?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You didn't laugh?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And I want that laugh.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It was the delivery was so smooth that you just
I like, yeah you did.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Guys Like, yeah, you did that episode. You're a parent,
you forget ship, You're anyway?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yes, Jack texting me, I'm worried about Swam Swim.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Do you remember remember.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I think he's cool. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
No, we have plenty of time you can do you
can do both of your Yeah, underrated.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Arkle joke definitely hidden. Okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh Then the thing I originally came with was something
that's just hitting me ash because we were talking about
how yes, I as a and I lean into Kid
is hard, kid is stressful. Kid also does throw things
in your life into perspective, almost like you're flipping a
switch and suddenly do you have wisdom or at least
perspective in some areas or access to stuff that you
(14:13):
didn't before. It like makes epiphanies easier, or that's been
my experience. So one for me as I age and
recently having a kid is the intelligence to wisdom pipeline,
which D and D people will know the distinction between
intelligence wisdom, but it's like problem solving in the moment
right or pattern recognition crunchy numbers versus oh, you could
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only actually be good at that because you've done it
thousands of times. It's a special insight that comes. Anyone
who's done a job for fifteen years knows right right, right,
any job, like even cashier knows like right. But if
you do this, it becomes super fast.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right how'd you learn that?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh? If you do it and you eventually go, I'm
bored of.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Doing this and you get fasted it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that includes anything including oil painting, writing jokes whatever.
And I think something that's pretty common so not underrated
is people knowing that like when you're well, I guess
people have a folly both ways. Well, let me just
say this. When you're young in a thing you're trying
to do, like you're just starting to learn a discipline,
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or young in your life more globally, try to non
make decisions when you're super emotional. Try to make like
problem solving decisions from a place of intelligence and cultivate
intelligence and don't trust your gut. And maybe this is
my advice, I'll stay by it. But then when you
get older, my mistake was I'm like, stay the course
(15:39):
being smart and has worked out so far. Let's stay smart.
And I think now that I'm older and my time
is stretched thinner, you do have to make that transition
to no. Trust that you've done this a thousand times
and even though you don't know why, your gut is
telling you turn real left here and do it this
way because it knows and you don't have time to
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process because the baby's crying and you got to do
this and turn in the thing. So like, trust your gut.
And I'm just telling people out there, like pick the moment,
trust your intelligence, and then as you age start to
realize what things you're good at automatically and stop worrying
about those things.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So basically, let Jesus take the wheel. That's kind of
what you're Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You've trained Jesus on the wheel for ten thousand hours,
so to speak, let it go.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Let yeah, I signed off on all of It's Malcolm
Gladwell's blink. Sorry, that's I.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Let Jesus take the wheel and he drives like a
fucking mate.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, no, check out Jesus paperwork, man. I signed
off on all his training them up on all that man.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah. So yeah, I think that's right, Like, you know,
having the experience of doing things like learning with your
hands how to do things, and you know, with your
like body and experience like yeah, actually doing stuff, and
then that translates, I think in the long run. And
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it's definitely something that we underrated in the United States
because we hate old people.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We underate wisdom even just culturally anyway, Yeah, right, right, right,
But I definitely have loved the first half of my
life knock on wood being like wisdom, fuck wisdom, Like,
let's crunch this out. Let's figure this out on a spreadsheet.
Everything always Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're remove move fast, break stuff type of type of people.
What is what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, maybe this will convince people to come check out
our paywall semi paywald long running video games podcast one Upsmanship,
one season of which you can find for free on
the iHeart Network. But I'm gonna say, hollow Night. Maybe
this will drive people away from the podcast. I think
we had some recency buys to Hollow Night. I was
at games Com, uh writing Xbox coverage that recently when
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silks Song was dropped and announced, when we were first
playing the demo and stuff without unpacking too much for
people who don't know what the hell I'm talking about, Jack,
I think it's perfectly good. Team Cherry is great. It's
all well and good. It's fine. But the level of
success it's appreciated as it fades is making it clearly overrated,
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as like it's just like a cute hot topic guy
in a good metro Vania. It's all right, let's all
calm down, especially having played through Silk Song as well,
and I think a lot of other great metro Venias,
which is one of my favorite indie genres get overshadowed
by that. Everybody check out Mina the Hollower.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna bring him.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I'm sure I had to beat you to it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So this is a game, all right, Well i'll sell that,
I know anything that you're talking about. This is one
of the best selling Yeah yeah, yeah, And people were like,
and it's a brilliant work of art and as it
fades in the memory, bea.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Because it has a unique melancholic look that's very simple
and fun. But as was pointed out, okay, without getting
the story too much longer, I'm working on my first
game that I hope for each is Fruition. And my
lead artist opened my eyes too by talking shit on
like we were talking about how slave a Spire has
(19:26):
enjoyed this incredible success and we love the game design
is incredible and addictive and compulsive, but darn you wish
the art was just good. Like it's not good. Let's
be honest, it's just doesn't look great. It doesn't stoke
your imagination or have a unique aesthetic as something like
Darkest Dungeon perhaps, And this artist, who shall remain nameless
to our game drops. If it drops, was like, and
(19:47):
you know what, hollow Night, it looks like hot topic art,
I'll say it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I was like, I can't shake that. It's true.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, it's this indie game that everyone loved because they're like,
I just get so lonely in this weird way walking
around with this little holiw Night. But if you look
at him, he's just like a little hot topic type.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, the possible.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's just like, why did this game become the best
selling indie game of all time? At one point, I
would largely say Chance landed at the right time.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think it will fade.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
And I remember someone who was who's only playing like
Triple A like tent Bowl releases, and I remember this
coming out. I was like, Oh, this looks cool, and
I'm like, oh, it's good. That was like my thing
of like blasphemous owl boy other sure, And I think
that's when, like I think at the time, it looked cool.
And I think for people who probably didn't know a lot,
(20:38):
they're like, oh, yeah, this shit is sick. This is
the sickest thing I've ever seen. It's so different than
like what Act division or fucking you be softest way
out that it's like, oh, this feels like something new.
But yeah, once I saw it, I was like, I'm
not really, that's not the genre of game for me,
But I definitely got I was in the hype to
reading about it and be like.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, it broke through in a very major way, and
then the sequel was awaited for what like a century.
It was just insane how every every gaming convention, the
trending topic would be They're gonna say Silk Song is
coming out, but they never did.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, culturally, omnivorous, I can selfishly steer this conversation in
a direction that will make me understand things. I'm trying
to think of a movie that has a similar footprint
that's like Beloved when it comes out and then sort
of disappears from the cultural mindscape.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Aaron Brockovich.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Aaron Brockovic, I feel like people still kind of fuck
with But is it so? I do too.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I'm saying it's good, it's just not so good that
it comes up every time you mentioned the greatest movies
of all time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, okay, right.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm trying to pick one that's not like like Forrest
Gump is like that, But there's clear reasons. As a
society we decided it started to seem dated. Yeah, act
that way, But I'm like, what is forgotten? Even though
it is good, but it's just like not good.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Enough, it's not remember it forever. Yeah, yeah, I feel
like that's how people felt about the first Avatar. So
many avatars have like come out since then that it's
hard to be like it's continue to be like it's
completely disappeared. But for a while people were like, man,
Avatar was a thing, and now nobody cares about that
at all, Like nobody thinks about Avatar?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Do me young people who seem into the sequels Time
of Time Producer Catherine points out in chat, the Game
of Thrones was so like killed itself so hard that
we all decided it's depressing.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Right, let's just not remember the good time. It was good,
but let's just remember the good times.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Babe was a huge movie at the time that completely
disappeared immediately. But I feel like that would be a
little bit dismissive of this game. Like this game seems
like it's bigger and better than that, right the hours
you keep going with like such a born niche, such
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like niche Oscar.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Wasn't it huge that? I just remember being a big deal.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
In my deal when it came out, and then everyone
was like fuck, And.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Even Dreyfus didn't So I don't know his dirt. He's
just a jerk, but yeah, isn't it. Dreyfus was like,
you know, gonna be an al Pacino the whole time.
I walked to the face of the earth, and he
sure went away.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, he did Krippendorf's tribe, that's true. He did a
lot of ones that disappeared for very good reasons. Were
like guardians of Goohol. Of course deserve to be remembered.
But shan't all right, great, overrated. I learned a lot
and now I will be like, you know, hollow, it
(23:49):
kind of low key, not as good as you think
it is.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I love I love talking video games, so I'm excited
for our episode.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Nice, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back, and a bit of
good news. Depending on your perspective, if you're some sort
(24:18):
of sicko who likes the Democratic Socialists of America, you
might have been excited by the New York The results
of the New York primaries earlier this week, in which
Zoran mom Donnie's candidates defeated establishment Democratic candidates, and just
(24:40):
like this seems to be like a continuation of the
thing that we keep seeing over and over just be
you know, Walter continues to be wet. People are not
feeling the legacy Democrats.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
People don't like when you juxtapose establishment Democrats with Progressives
and DSA candidates, because.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The difference has become real clear, real quick.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
One of the reasons why Karen Bass was like, I
want to go against Spencer Pratt in the mayoral election. Yeah,
not someone to the left of me, because then I
look even worse. But yeah, Hakim, Jeffries and Zoron went
head to head over some of their picks and the
primary races that went down Tuesday, and when you know what,
Hakim lost, and he's now acting like this isn't a moment,
(25:26):
This isn't like something that could be instructive to the
future of the party and their you know, their their
their potential achievements that they can reach with midterms coming
up and beyond. Hopefully this is from the New Republican
says quote House Minority leader HACKEM. Jeffries, on the other hand,
spent Wednesday trying to downplay the fact that candidates endorsed
by Democratic Socialist New York City mayors Oronmumdani Beat the
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ones Jeffries had endorsed. Quote the mayor and I agree
to strongly disagree about some of his endorsements, and he's
got work to do in terms of the conversations that
he's going to have with members of Congress moving forward.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
When you're like speaking of succinct, yeah, yeah, just so
many words, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So you agree to disagree about the endorsements, mainly that
you didn't know how to pick a winner, you didn't
know how to back the person who actually had the
attention of the electorate. Okay, And he's got work to
do in terms of the conversations that he's going to
have with members. So he's like, so you got to
be nice to the income that boils down. He works
in the big building over there.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You're literally just describing what he does, but also saying
he's got work to do, yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Terms of conversations to have with people.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
The conversations that he's going to have with members members
Congress moving forward, like because obviously it can't be happening
in the past, so it's just a move. Did I
hit my word limit? Did I get my word limit?
Do I get paid?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It's like a weird thing where he's trying to be like,
I'm so the first sentence is I'm different. We're different, obviously, yeah,
and then the second one is just he's just trying
to like lightly sun him, just a light finger wag
to try and be like, you have no man, I'm
still the boss.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
We'll see, We'll see how people like you over here,
because I think they're gonna be mad. Yeah, you fucked
up big time, pal by doing what uh winning waiting.
That was fucked up the way he won.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Stop just bringing up stuff about how like the Democratic
Party could be doing more. It's like, funk, that's like
you're talking about me, dude. That's cool. Man, now, James Carvell,
he is losing his gator ass eating mind right now
at the idea of these extremist gaining more ground and
(27:51):
Democratic Party. I'm calling for a great schism, the chism, gizzm.
This is what I'm calling about. This is what he's This.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Whole paragraph that you've just said is very heavily influenced
by that Australian T shirt that we keep talking about
gator ass eating you've talked about. I do have to
bring it up again. It's an alligator or croco now.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
If it's I guess, yeah, And it's saying I'm on
the rag mate chucking to me dumper.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Period. Yeah, So I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Know if these people speak Australian miles. I'm just saying, now, look, yes,
it might seem like I'm stuck on this T shirt,
but I'm saying at an unconscious level, so are you.
Because you said he's not just a gator eating, he's
got a gator ass.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Eating, and that he said, and you mispronounced.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
All right, you're right, you're right. That's you're right, You're
you're thinking. It's on.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's on all our minds.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And I, in real time, am not familiar with that
shirt or that phrase. But it doesn't take more than
the delay that internet lag already has for you to
go on me rag Okay, what.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He's trying to.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Get away?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They have away with words. That's not what this story
is about. It's about James Cabble. It's about James cabble
right now. And he went on the political podcast and
he's talking about this is what he first does his
first thing. I think he's treating the Democrat like the DSA, uh,
you know, candidates, and like the sort of rise of
(29:50):
these progressives to the left of the Democrats as sort
of like like gray scale or some ship from Game
of Thrones, like it's on a finger now, but it
is going it's gonna creep up your whole body and
then you're gonna turn into stone. So we got to
cut the arm off now, that's what we gotta do.
That's why he's.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
YouTube, So we got to sit through this.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
He man, ad we got something that looks like just
ignore that.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Uh, why are you wear in that loue with that
New Orleans Marty graul. He's wearing a Marty Crass sweat
shirt right now too. Look he's he's on brand always
with an open suitcase just right behind him wherever he's at.
Just I love how immediate professional. Anyway, here's James Carville
(30:37):
proposing a great schism, and.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I actually do think it's time for Democrats to talk
the s words him.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Everybody is always said no, no, we're coalition, We're a
big tent, and there's some there's just some ship that
I can't be in the same tent with social And
we talked about Madona Street for three lash night in Manhattan.
I did call it a comic corridor.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
First, if I go back to that Jenna side, Yes,
he's just so good, just so out to none of
these all these people will never say his name correctly,
just like.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Cuomo madaby Well and now he got this one madaby Well, Joseph,
I don't know who you charld Mogabi whatell he is
anyway because they disrespect his name. And then like we
just heard, sorry, let James just you go on, I.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Mean street for three larash Knight in Manhattan. I did
call it a comic corridor.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Do they They don't, They never have. In fact, it's
usually had a mayor who is Republican. Actually, from my
adult life, it's had real Republican mayors. Uh actually seems
to be a place where one very talented candidate has
been able to communicate to people what socialism in a way,
but uh, in a way that you can't get in
(32:03):
front of.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
But however, they Manhattanites famously do call their dumpers, the
commy cord.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Hey I'm checking here. Hey, hey you chuck it back there.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Chuck it is just such a fun.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's like I'm gonna throw a bang into you, and
I don't say it like.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Chuck it it. Oh fuck, all right, sorry we're talking
about sure, Okay, he.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Goes on, We'll get a little bit more, because he
does say he has to come back to this whole
idea of like they just some of the things they're
talking about. It they not full the democratic part of day.
In fact, they don't wish the Democratic Party will, which
you're like, yeah, I mean, but but for reasons because
the party has constituted is woefully incapable to govern in
this era of ND stage capitalism. So yeah, and that's sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(33:01):
we need a new fighter in the ring, someone who
actually understands what's going on and also can understand what
the will of people are and create something that maybe
is a little more potent than merely going, uh, we can,
we can, we can gesture things like equality, but not
really follow through on policy like that. They call it
the comic corridor. They got to call it. I know,
if you've been to up West Side they called it
(33:22):
a comic corridor. Really, oh yeah, all up and down there,
crazy crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Then hope the socialist slant.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You'll see slide, you'll see Oh man, all Palestinians know
exactly Jewish people in all New York. So it's just
impossible for us to win there.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I was by a Marxism square garden for the NAIN.
That's crazy, it's crazy crazy. Uh So yes, here he
goes on again about how he just he's like I
can't stand this ship.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's so angry about really losing his mind. Yeah, like
he's angrier than he will is when Trump won.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, truly, because I think he realizes, Look, I think
it's like it's a it's a dinosaur being like, hey,
what's that big rock coming down from this guy?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The defenders of the status quo, the base tenets of
reality as it stands, as it undergoes change, that supersedes party.
They're like, right, I would prefer reality than it is.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
He kind of changes his tune up a little bit
later in this in this interview where he's sort of
like we got to talk about excuse him, Like he's
almost dealing with like, uh, like a hostage situation. Where
he's like, hey man, and maybe we can make this
work for everybody. Like again, so here's his he tries
to be like, maybe don't use the word democrat for democrats.
I don't know. These aren't really solutions. This is again
(34:42):
a senile old man who's scared of the future.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'm me as the leader of it is you know,
you insist that you know Trod insists that the people
that run into your bowner run as a democratic socialist
and don't use a democratic party is your guideline, and
lets negotiate a terms of aschusm I mean, we can
happening to just turns for both of us. But I'm done.
(35:06):
I'm not in that political party. I'm I am totally
comfortable in a political party that.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Is going to throw his hat down like an angry Prassic.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Michael. Michael is not joking. For those listening. He took
his baseball cap off, like his instinct was to take
it off, stop on it, and then start shooting his
guns down until at the ground or.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Like the first white manager who like Jackie Robinson, hit
a home run off their team. He's like, God, God,
why didn't letting this filst in the league. This is this,
I don't understand this.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So he's there.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
You call that a fastball, but that is what Yeah,
he just assumes that they're going easy out of Yeah,
it's how he would be reacting to Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So he goes on. Now, this is where he reveals
that what he really sees because I don't he's not
he's not, unfortunately unforced, he's not dumb enough to be
like the things they want are crazy, like universal health care.
But this is where his neo lib Democrat brain leaks
the truth out. And here he goes because he says,
(36:23):
I'm fine with certain aspects, but this, this, this is
the part that's real instructive.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
I am totally comfortable in a political party that spends
time questioning the policies of the government of Israel. In fact,
I'm enthusiastic about that. I don't want to be in
a political party denies the right of the state of
Israel to exist. That's just not I just can't do that.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Who is he who is interviewing? By the way, Sorry,
we just got all right, this is all too visual,
but I will just okay, I will just say.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Okay, so let me dumper.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's my crocodile is saying chuck it. So the chucking
it is really the no two.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
See what is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Evidently the future of your party? Like the energy, the
unbridled energy that is happening. And to say, okay, we
need to immediately go to work negotiating.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
The terms of a schism is so we we could
cover more ground if we split up. Like what's insane
to me is watching everything about politics and many processes
just accelerates to a point of hyperbolic.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Grotesqueerree of itself.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, So the Democratic Party has gone from we cannot
win a thing too?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh no, we're winning?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, fucking how do we how do we make sure
we don't win? Like this? Don't want to?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Can we undermine this? Hey man, vote blue no matter who? Well?
I mean, well that's raw. That one that ain't blue,
gets your eyes tested, that's green or some ship. I
don't know what the fuck that is That ain't a
fucking body I'm a part of. Uh yeah, that guy,
he's the person who's hosting, is a guy named al Hunt,
(38:14):
and al Hunt you know he's like like fucking a
Bloomberg guy. You know this is you know, yeah, he's
everybody person. Ultimately, that was a conversation between al eighty
three year old Al Hunt and eighty one year old
James Carrville about the future of the fucking bro Shut
(38:35):
the fuck up. You got to the end of the
buffet line. Now you take your ass to the table
and go.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It must be the kids who are wrong.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
It has to be, must be. But yeah, so again genocide,
like you were saying, Michael, the tent has to include
the killing of Palestinian people. Okay, because I'm gonna conflate
the genocide with a much more uous argument about to
exist in the right of a state to exist, rather
(39:04):
than contending with the genocide of it all. He wants
the people to.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Be able to question the direction of Israeli, just not
able to do anything about it in any way whatsoever.
You can ask questions, but people have been asking questions
for decades, for long, and we don't want those They
continue to do whatever the fuck they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The thing with questions is an answer might emerge, and
then you don't want to act on anything like that.
So let's not so Other progressives, you know, obviously, are
not so cynical. The executive director for Data for Progress.
Ryan O'Connell said, quote, New York City democratic primaries are
a specific thing, and that New York DSAY has an
incredibly strong ground game. Sure Zorn is an incredibly popular politician,
(39:49):
and it's a very blue area. But I think there's
also a lot of things that can be extrapolated nationwide,
which we know that to be true because at the
end of the day, he's not being.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
Like, eh, you gotta like this, So where a Yankee
only things you do like, it's like you're talking about
shit that affects working people.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Okay, so I get the context of it. But again,
the platform has wild appeal, wide appeal. He goes on,
He cites, he cites their own data or polls that
Data for Progress is done. That quote found voters who
see voter see candidates who don't stand up to the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee or APAK as untrustworthy on
other issues, and that democratic socialist policies like mom Donni's
(40:29):
have nationwide appeal. Quote when you see victories as large
as these, and when you grow your numbers in Congress,
it tends to change parts of the party more broadly.
And that's why you're seeing the old, you know, desiccated
husk of human being, and James carve Will being.
Speaker 9 (40:48):
Like, I don't want anything to do it this shit,
that wave looks dangerous. Give me away from that way,
give me that way. What's that a surfboard? No, let
me get in a coffin. That's what I want. So yeah,
it's it's just it's like, it really is mind.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Blowing now that that that like to your point, Michael,
the the Democrats hate winning thing is just purely now
just saying outright, no, I don't we we can't win.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
We're not gonna win, not like not with this on
for winning. You have a lot of explaining to do.
You got, Yeah, you're gonna have to have some or
difficult conversations with the losers of our party with all
this winning bullshit that you're springing on us. Last minute.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Excuse me that congressman you ousted. He has kids. Okay,
how old are they? Forty eight and fifty two?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
You know what they working coal? And you were coming
for that too.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Where this is your problem? Posed to get black lungs?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah? What are they gonna pivot to if we go
all renewables and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
What are his son just open just graduated from Columbia
and opened a thirty million dollars round of fundraiser for
his company. Uh, you have any idea how well that is?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yes, yeah, it's a new aout. There's a new AI
chat about that can accurately identify a child military target
in less than three seconds, no mess up this time,
it will accurately know. And he just raised a lot
of money for that. We gotta we gotta support a
young man.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Is there any way that Zoram runs for president? It's
like to too soon, I'm sure everybody would say.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
But that's one to skip a few ninety nine one
hundred for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm ready. I'm ready to see that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Well yeah, if it's a revolution time, sometimes you get surprises. Yeah, yeah,
you just got doing that. And I do think it's
whether we ask. I mean, it's definitely global violence. But
of course I'm still feeling privileged and insulated. My life
chugs along only with random tragedies striking people who are
like friends of friend or whatever.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
But it feels like, regardless.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
We're in an intellectual civil war already, and like it's
interesting to watch in my social media circles at least
people who I think both are of good faith, like,
oh no, you really mean that. You didn't come to
troll or try to who are like, you have to
vote blue no matter people really being like, vote blue
no matter who, because of course the stuff that breaks
(43:13):
their heart concentration, camps, ice and stuff. And then people
are like, so you don't care what's happening about It's
like and of course I laugh, and I'm like, you
got to expand your mind enough to hold both at once.
But I believe all those people are urgently saying that
and they mean it, and they're like, yeah, it's like
people are It's like, it makes me think of those
(43:34):
letters that are like the Civil Wars or brother from brother,
and it's we're actually saying people are like, look, normally
we'd agree, but not that man. And it's for James Carville.
His line is some stupid bullshit. But everyone is finding
out where they stand as this schism comes in.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
You know, there are definitely mainstream Democrats who like people
who just vote and are vote blue no matter who.
People who are mad and are like, well you got
as are just divisive.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
And I think we're testing the idea that there might
be a larger, a large enough chunk of society now
that would prefer to move past a sports themed political
system like.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Are you red or you're blue? I'm actually in dire need.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, let's maybe discuss it in a more
detailed way than that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, So I'm reaching out I have, you know, I've
been using chat, gbt UH and claude to reach out
to everybody who says the vote lu no, no matter who thing.
And we're just negotiating terms.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Of okay, good, we're we're getting pizza sent and we're
just going to negotiate depending on pieza track. But I
know people I have acquaintances who work for well known
Democrats who have done so for a long time and
are not progressive, even though like we're we're in the
same age cohort, and they've seen the same things and
(44:56):
roughly arrived to the same conclusions. And I see for
some of those people too, there's like a rigidity because
they've felt justified in like in like hitching their wagon
to this capital d Democratic party, that there's like a
weird loyalty that they're It's like some people, I can
see it kind of chipping away where it's like, yeah,
this is like this, they know it's not working, and
(45:19):
other people are just sort of I think doubling down
to be like this is just like a blip. It's
only going to work in these places because it's really
existential for them to be.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Like, don't have loyalty to brands people like the second.
It doesn't matter how long you've been an Apple person.
If you don't like iPhones anymore, switch immediately to shit
looks cool to you, So Harry fucking like. I mean,
it's a bit of a hassle, but I'm glad. I'm
I'm divesting from certain companies I want to like Gmail.
I've had my entire life. I think Google is completely
(45:49):
evil at this point, so I'm moving to proton Mail.
I'm doing. You know, there's like you don't have to
do stuff just because you're used to it, very very key.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, well I'm gonna I'm gonna double down. I actually
like that Apple products cost five hundred dollars more today
than they did a week ago. That's actually good, dude,
at least at least around Let's do it to me.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, and I like me it's delicious. I need society
to properly value the cost of things so that I
can be my appetites can be curved appropriately.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
All Right, all right, that's that's enough of that. We're
gonna take a big break. We're gonna come back and
talk about that Australian T shirt.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
We'll be ready knock it off before you before I
chuck it in my dump, in your own, your own dumper.
I don't know. We don't say that down to buy you.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
And we're back. We're back, And so Gja said, it's
vaguely aware that this is like this massive title wave
that is coming was supposed to be here already. Now, yeah,
I was delayed. But this, uh you.
Speaker 10 (47:12):
Know duty called the track. Will you answer grand theft auto? Wait,
that's not great. I can't be hit anyways, it is.
This game is expected to make one billion dollars on
pre orders alone. This for a digital version of the game.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
That can't sat a game that can't sell up because
it so it's just people being like, it's like peace
of mind, one billion dollars worth a peace of mind.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
As the Ride Along Lifelong game addicts, I have to
point out, uh, I think pre ordering gets you digital
stuff in the game you can't otherwise get. So there
is a however tangible you consider video games, there is
a tangible reason. It's not to play it early. It's
to get like a special jacket and a special car
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I got access to this car this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
James car playing this game. Yeah, this is what I
do to this call as to this thing look like
a truck one thing. And this is I think, just
how we exist our reality now is anytime there's a
thing like this that lots of people like, there will
be massive scams. This is happening with World Cup tickets.
This is this happens for everything.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Taylor Swift tickets, anything. Yeah, that's hype and demand somewhat
scarce or exclusive.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's almost like we all grew up playing Grand Theft
Auto one, two, four and five, and we're like, you
know what, fuck the social contract. I'm gonna scam everyone.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Just like in GTA five. You can manipulate this. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's like making the most profitable movie franchise, Pirate this
movie Pirate. Pirates are great, right right right.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
But they are Yeah, so fans of the game that
lets you pretend to commit crimes are becoming the victims
of crimes, sorry, specifically a ton of fake websites trying
to scam people with fake sales where they promise you
things that are like a little too good to be true.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, like fucking beta access.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Like yeah, they're like you can get in there now,
Oh you want to? It seems like you're interested in
this game.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Do you want to like.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Get in there and start like playing right now?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
What's that worth to you? Dude? I think there was
one person, right, someone who with like a terminal illness
got to play, like an early version of it.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
There was to make a wish, to make a wish,
to make a.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Wish, right, Yeah, yeah, there was someone where they were like.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Rockster came out with a build and yeah yeah, they're like.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
There you go. Yeah, but anything like on a website
like hey man for like like one hundred and eighty bucks, dude,
you play the bait and get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
This web page says we need you to help us
build Vice City and it has a picture of Uncle
Sam next to it.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
No, I love the one.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
So it it seems like if someone asked me, well,
are you dying, you could play it if you're dying. Yeah,
that would be read like a scam, but that was
the real one.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, right right, yeah, it's I mean the other thing too,
it's so crazy is like we grew up on physical media,
and like for the people that are buying a day
of they're like, oh, is there a disc in They're
like nah, no, no, no, there's a download code for the
digital version of the game, and like, well, when we're
gonna get the fucking disc because they already have a
(50:29):
problem with digital media and like games just going completely
inert on us because the lack of like having a
physical copy of it. But hey, well we'll see, we'll
see if that was.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Also as a lifelong gamer, it's poignant to me. Their
Ultimate Edition sets like a new high watermark for a
game price, and it's exactly the number that in all
classic j RPGs are, most notably like Final Fantasy seven
and stuff. It's the most damage you could the system
could process.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Nine nine nine nine Yeah. Yeah, how much does this cost?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Quad nine? Just give me all of whatever you have,
all your credits?
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, because we like so each game has like one
through five, have they all been a leak where everyone's like,
this is actually like meeting expectations. It kind of feels
like that. It kind of feels like things like almost
like the Toy Story franchise, like where people really liked
each subsequent sequel quite a bit, and so this one
(51:33):
is just going to demolish everything. Like, are you guys
feeling like this is actually going to be as good as.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Much like Half Life? I would say from valve Gta, Yeah,
has become sort of a state of the industry statement
on Sandbox games, which behind first person shooters like Call
of Duty, are the most popular. Actually now with the
new generation Minecraft and Survival building is the new hotness.
But like there's still to be money to be made
(52:01):
out of Sandbox the game where you're dropped into a
city and it works like a real city. You can
do anything, get in and out of a car, ship, whatever,
and uh, it just rockstars sort of on the hook.
I think in gamers' minds to present every time one
that is a full generational leap ahead, Like we don't
want to in one generation. Usually we want the next thing,
(52:24):
and that's what its claims to be. It always costs
the moon. I've heard some buzz in gaming journalism corners
that They're like this will never happen again, Like this,
this human endeavor is too monumental. They're already talking internally
about like what is the future of rock Star because
we don't want to have to keep going to make
(52:45):
we gotta talk that.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
It's like we're actually not going to go to the
moon anymore. It's just like we're not going to do
that anymore. We're so fucking tired. Becau, this is so hard.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Again, I mean because like what the I've seen anecdotally,
like the development for GT sings between like one and
two billion dollars, and like the bers Khalifa cost one
and a half billion.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Dollars to write.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
It's up there with the most expensive Folly's Man has ever.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
And a tiny sliver of Ai Folly overall.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Also, dang, looking at the logo, I just realized I've
avoided watching trailers. But there's no way this game doesn't
start with saying Grand Theft Auto six and then you
zoom out in the VI says Vice City. Oh there's
absolutely no way. Actually, I bet you could have.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Bet on that on poly Market. I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Oh yeah, el Village style, Yeah, yeah. It will also
be fascinating to me just to see because in the
time between five and six, we have gone from a
world where South Park Edge Lord humor un ironically was
moving the most comedy dollar of any kind of humor,
(54:02):
and now we are moving into an era where there's
a lot of that, but there's also the battle for oh,
don't don't only punch up and you know, thoughtfully, everyone
knows that over our lifetimes there's been more thoughtful humor
and more thoughtful empathetic guidelines put on, like what's the
goal here? Why are we doing this? Grand Theft Auto
five has a thing where you like, at gunpoint forced
(54:26):
Ryan Seacrest to strip naked and dance in public because
he's such a fucking beta cook boy, Like that's a
and that's played for Like, isn't that funny? You get
to do that in the game?
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Man. We're at a point.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Where when they drop a new Halo remaster there's a
furor because the idea that they added pink to the
skyline is like, see they're putting bisexual messages in the
names and shit, like when this drops the thread they
are trying to like walk between we have to get
everyone's mind. We can't alienate. So it has to be
(54:59):
ed enough that these people don't flip out and burn
all the their PlayStations and boycott us. But these other
people don't think we'd asshole. I'm fascinated to see how Yeah,
I can't right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
I can't wait to not play it and hear about
all of your experience. Everyone will hate it when it
comes out, So I'm going to be coming.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
I'm going to be coming onto these recordings like eyes
Half Open, just like us up all Night Plane and yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Oh dude, yeah, I remember, we're going to do a
multi part series on one Apsmanship.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
So thirteen, when GTA five came out, everybody I used
to work at Power one O six at that radio station,
when they came out, all of the digital team, like
the people did social the video, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
We were all America's productivity just drunk. Yeah, dude, do
you remember.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
A day all the crack writers came in and all
we could talk about is that you can fucking go
to the cracked offices, the ones that are in cell
on the Santa Monica Pier and like you could look
and be like that's where we write, that's hours we're
in there. It was all we could talk about for
a week.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
They had those offices there like by the the actual building.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
They had a perfect realistic like the number of windows
was accurate, the shape was accurate. I'm like, that's the
fucking correct though.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Wait where were they? Oh that was Oh, you guys
are on the problem.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Because they did a chunk of Santa Monica and the
tracked office was right by the pier. So whatever technology
they used or you know, they have our building, it
was in there.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
And then you guys ended up over there like near Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
They laid us off day.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah, well we consimulate. But there's some loose graphic pillows
from Society six by the exit you can the way out.
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Michael Sway. Such a pleasure having you as always the
daily Like, guys, where can people find you? Follow you,
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Speaker 2 (58:19):
I'm going for the rare double plug, which I rarely do. Sorry,
But another underrated thing of mine that I'm putting a
lot of effort into is my parenting blog, Love You
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It will make you laugh and it has poignant wisdoms
(58:40):
about stuff I learned. And it's in the form of
letters to my son. Assuming he will one day read them.
I'll throw them away or whatever, but they're to him.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Oh huh, he'll have chat GPT read it to him.
Am I right, Miles? Where can people find you as
their work media you've been enjoying?
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(59:53):
to hear about wasting government again until you acknowledge corporate
America's far, far more wasteful, which is I think an
interesting and an addition to how we talk about things
that I'm hoping people are starting to include that this
is we need to look at it as this is
not a good way to run a civilization. It's a
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wasteful way that they just get away with because they're like, well,
it's got to be profitable.
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Eventually, if the critique look at it, it's obviously stupid worked,
it would work.
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This is stud I think it's getting more obviously no
algae and at Town's USA tweeted World Cup announcer just
said the English have struggled historically here in Massachusetts. It's
pretty good luck.
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A lot of conversations with many Bostonians about.
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is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, this one is from the artist to my t
A m A E really dope like producer DJ just
kind of yeah, just kind of multi hyphen it. This
track is actually a remix of a song called drive Through,
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k A n Y. It's just got again. It's real smooth,
it's nice and chill. Definitely like it's hot and you
want a little something to get your toe tapping. This
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All right, we will link off to that in the
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Babies are so selfish, Like is the thing that like
nobody tells you assholes, dude, they don't, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
When I say, daddy got to work the thing I
always wanted, which is how come right as my dog
seems to be almost smart enough that it could talk
to me and be a little buddy, it dies.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
This is like.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Fully, you know, like he just and it's crazy to
see it. Like it's just you know, as rewarding as
it is to see a switch on like a light.
Like three hours ago, this fool did not know colors,
what color was what? And now three hours later we
can go bring me the orange ball, bring me the
(00:52):
blue ball, bring me and it's like, wow, you can
isolate the moment he understood what that we're saying, Oh,
they must be referring to that quality. They must be
about color. It's like, man, I didn't. It's so I mean,
it was pretty granular, but it's weird to pinpoint it
or like you know, the first step you witness, you're like, wow,
that was it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I didn't know talking and I had confided a lot
of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I was hoping to say one syllable, hoping he wouldn't
get that gene from me. The talking gene.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He like pinpoints the moon like a hawk all the
time in the daytime.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Just feels like the electromagnetic few. He just knows. He's
like even indoors. Yeah, god shit, before he could walk.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We found him standing at night in the yards.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Not Hello the Internet and welcome to season four forty four,
Episode five of Dialys Hi Guys. It was the production
of iHeart Radio. As a podcast, we take a deep
dive into America's share consciousness through the day's news. We
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also have a new non news history version of the
daily's like I was dropping each Monday morning, where you
do a deep dive into the like I see the
lens of a different icon.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
First episode was Einstein's. Second episode was Erkle, first co
hosts of the guest of the first episode is with
us today and that's mainly what we're gonna be talking about,
just a retrospective of our Einstein episode.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I was on did I do that?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You did it? That's one thing about early parenthood is
that things I don't remember big chunks anyways, Uh, what.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Do we just do?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We just did Indiana Jones, Yep, we got Uncle Samuel
Elliot Earhart. We got we got Uncle Sam coming up tight,
nice tight episode with Robert Evans coming your way this
coming Monday. You ever wondered why so many people are
dressed like this man?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Why Sam?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Why he's on stilts? Still haven't figured that out?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think I think we came to the idea that
it was circumstraction or a projection of America is like yeah,
like it's artificially pumped up. It's like, now it's a
guy on stilts. Man, this country is doing.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The taller Sam, I'll kick your ankles out. You'll fucking
let your man ass shit. It is Friday, June twenty sixth,
twenty twenty six mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's National Safer Workplace Day. Okay, can you make this
place a little bit safer? It's also take your Dog
to Work Day. It's also now.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You said that day you're talking about your friend take
your dog or take.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Your dog to work? Hey, man, you have to take
my dog to work. Bro National Food Truck Day. Oh
that that that was such a great era of like
two thousand and nine ten, like the beginnings of like
you go to go on Twitter to find out this
truck is handing out savory pancakes, a.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Bit of a truck chaser myself exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Exactly, and a bunch of other weird trade days. National
Canoe Day shout out to a canoe, love canoe.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
The canoe lobby. I'm a lobbyot that focuses on canoes,
specifically of all sorts. One client. Yeah, uh, my name
is Jack O'Brien aka Maha. Y'all got thrush. Everybody drank
all the milk with the puss. We just want some
(04:33):
mumps and Trump to gush about the type of people
steer steal a bear, cub drunk that one. Curtis to Christy,
I'm a Gucci man. I'm so sorry. I wish I
could have stuck the landing. But we all remember Rosa Parks.
What a song? What a song?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Also a person too, I'm not familiar. We'll talk about yea, yeah, yeah,
what a song?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Huh what a song?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I remember Rosa Parks the song. I just love the
idea of someone.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Did not care for the song that they so kindly
named after her.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh oh, I'm sure they asked her. Huh.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't think they did. Oh, I don't think they did.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And she was like, what the fuck is She's like,
who the fuck are these guys? Outcast?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Shout out to Outcast. I'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Miles Gray, Okay, baby out Sorry, I'm gonna do this one, babe,
Babe bye. Steal pipets, but just the mini ones. Okay.
Shout out to snarfila because you're talking about how I
was stealing micropipettes in my biology lab in school when.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Paul v was on to what end?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just because they were huggins, No, just because I was
just like I love stealing shit from the lab because
there's always like little weird plastic things, tubes, cases, whatever,
the little vials for the PCR, the polymers chain reaction centrifuge,
I sent whatever the thing that is. I used to
take those, and that I would I would try and
(06:04):
say it was for drugs, but I didn't have anything
to put it right right.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was like recreating the cover of like is that
what's the album that has like all the drugs, like
them cooking up drugs in the last is that Cuban link.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
The Beatles drugs? The Beatles?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I love that album by the Beatles, Drugs.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Came right between their classic and their psychedelic.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Only for them.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I need somebody, Drugs, Drugs, Miles. We're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor,
comedian podcaster who co founded Small Beans, which sav Club
called one of the best podcast networks. He was the
head of video of Cracked started helped create many of
(06:50):
our best videos there and podcasts as well. Please welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Is Michael Swan.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Michael Michael Sway a ka in honor of episode four
four four guests like I'm not black, I'm Michael swaym Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, t.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I'm not black, I'm just Swaying. Okay, okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes, swam as is abstract, Yeah yeah, yeah, separate. Thank
you so much. Always happy to be here. Shout out
to Christy, who's recently hopped over and become a recurring
guest on the Small Beans network as well. Oh you
mean there, Big Willie huge fans real name will Pool?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, will Pool? What a name does you ever do?
Like I wonder I know he's listening, remember, like remember
the Simpsons Millpool when he got the cast millhouse combined
with the pool was Millpool will Pool? Anyway, that's some
merch for you.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If you're using your real name, if you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Ever want to or are we out? He goes, he's
revealed his real name before. Right on this show, he
called himself Willpool.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
He has our much smaller networks world.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Maybe I don't know Whirlpool. You know the.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Workshops, the waffle house of his brand workshops.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Anyway, for the rest of the wis Michael. We're thrilled
to have you here. We're going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
going to tell the listeners a couple of the things
we're talking about later in the news section. We're going
to talk about how the establishment Democratic Party is responding
to the d Essay's primary wins in New York City
(08:38):
and basically like demanding an apology, like they have a
lot to explain, they have a lot to.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And that they're not handling it well. I think it's
like anything. It's just like when you're not built for
the new era to emerge, you start going, what.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The heck's are this crib?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
They're not doing it the right way.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the
grand theft Auto six pre order scams.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The scams.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Noam is going to be a big one, guys. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, it's going to be a big one.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Jack.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I think people are going to play this game. I
think it might do bafo bo. So we'll talk about that,
and we will talk about America's Freedom two fifty concert
in DC and a new profile Vanilla Ice that just
dropped on the Atlantic so all of that. Oh thank god,
So they went. They actually went and got boots on
(09:37):
the ground in Vanilla ICE's home, which looks like Versailles.
For some reason, the right is really having a Versailles moment.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's always like that. I remember, like the Queen of Versailles, that,
like that documentary about the woman who tried to build
a Versailles replica, and like in Florida.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, they're just there. I think they're like,
at some subconscious level, just begging for the guilloty.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right right right.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I can't believe that's his house. Shocked to learn that
in this moment that that's his house, I know. I
don't like that was like I thought that was like
Trump's oval office waiting room or some shit.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
No, man, it's Rob van Winkle's living room, repeats himself,
like that filigree dog that's hand laid simulated gold leaf. Man,
I can't afford the real stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
All right, all that plenty more. But first, Michael, we
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Sure let me scroll all the way back up to
the top, because there's just no way I'm going to
pronounce it without my own notes. So I chose the tiri.
It's a word from Tierra del Fuego, Mamila pinote pie,
and that's in my search history because I guess what
it says about me is And this the moment I
(10:55):
want to reflect with gratitude on was that recently my
mom listened to the pilot Jack Jack knows what I'm
talking about, a podcast project I'm working on, and the
episode's about untranslated words that are difficult to translate into English,
and my mom was truly like I understand, you know,
like the magic of research. It's like, how do you
(11:15):
know everything? Or how did you know such a broad
variety of and I'm like, I didn't know any of them.
I've read books and looks through and it is. It's magic.
Especially I realized the sorcery of research is only going
to become more powerful as everyone's off AI And You're like,
I could just look it up, and like, yeah, I
(11:37):
can look stuff up too, but I can also compose
it into meaningful structures of thought. That's going to become
like blows.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
People to my thing. So, Mamila panatze pi.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Is a word that I like from I believe the
Yogin language. Let me make sure I'm right about that. Yeah,
y yeah, the yoglang.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Off the top of my head, you know, I mean
talking about but.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It at one time held the Guinness World Record for
the most concise word of all time, which is wild
because it's long. And it may be long, but try
to think of a shorter way to say It's definition,
which is to two people looking at each other, each
one hoping the other will offer to do something you
both know needs to be done but you don't want
(12:26):
to do. Wow moment, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Who's gonna blink? Ma Miilla penepi. And it's very.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Common in the first two years of raising a kid
with the mom the parents.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Actually, you're like, I did the last one. I did
the last three am to four thirty am your shift.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I believe amazing. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I had a long, complicated thing, but I think we're
a little pressed for time. But so I'm gonna use
this slot to say my racle joke from the opener.
I only interrupt for jokes. I just needed to know that, Jack,
I knew you hadn't introduced the guest yet. You said
we had this guest on for Einstein episode. Later we
had an Rkle episode and I said, oh, did I
do that?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You didn't laugh?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And I want that laugh.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It was the delivery was so smooth that you just
I like, yeah you did.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Guys Like, yeah, you did that episode. You're a parent,
you forget ship, You're anyway?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yes, Jack texting me, I'm worried about Swam Swim.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Do you remember remember.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I think he's cool. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
No, we have plenty of time you can do you
can do both of your Yeah, underrated.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Arkle joke definitely hidden. Okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh Then the thing I originally came with was something
that's just hitting me ash because we were talking about
how yes, I as a and I lean into Kid
is hard, kid is stressful. Kid also does throw things
in your life into perspective, almost like you're flipping a
switch and suddenly do you have wisdom or at least
perspective in some areas or access to stuff that you
(14:13):
didn't before. It like makes epiphanies easier, or that's been
my experience. So one for me as I age and
recently having a kid is the intelligence to wisdom pipeline,
which D and D people will know the distinction between
intelligence wisdom, but it's like problem solving in the moment
right or pattern recognition crunchy numbers versus oh, you could
(14:36):
only actually be good at that because you've done it
thousands of times. It's a special insight that comes. Anyone
who's done a job for fifteen years knows right right, right,
any job, like even cashier knows like right. But if
you do this, it becomes super fast.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right how'd you learn that?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh? If you do it and you eventually go, I'm
bored of.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Doing this and you get fasted it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that includes anything including oil painting, writing jokes whatever.
And I think something that's pretty common so not underrated
is people knowing that like when you're well, I guess
people have a folly both ways. Well, let me just
say this. When you're young in a thing you're trying
to do, like you're just starting to learn a discipline,
(15:18):
or young in your life more globally, try to non
make decisions when you're super emotional. Try to make like
problem solving decisions from a place of intelligence and cultivate
intelligence and don't trust your gut. And maybe this is
my advice, I'll stay by it. But then when you
get older, my mistake was I'm like, stay the course
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being smart and has worked out so far. Let's stay smart.
And I think now that I'm older and my time
is stretched thinner, you do have to make that transition
to no. Trust that you've done this a thousand times
and even though you don't know why, your gut is
telling you turn real left here and do it this
way because it knows and you don't have time to
(16:01):
process because the baby's crying and you got to do
this and turn in the thing. So like, trust your gut.
And I'm just telling people out there, like pick the moment,
trust your intelligence, and then as you age start to
realize what things you're good at automatically and stop worrying
about those things.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So basically, let Jesus take the wheel. That's kind of
what you're Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You've trained Jesus on the wheel for ten thousand hours,
so to speak, let it go.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Let yeah, I signed off on all of It's Malcolm
Gladwell's blink. Sorry, that's I.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Let Jesus take the wheel and he drives like a
fucking mate.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, no, check out Jesus paperwork, man. I signed
off on all his training them up on all that man.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah. So yeah, I think that's right, Like, you know,
having the experience of doing things like learning with your
hands how to do things, and you know, with your
like body and experience like yeah, actually doing stuff, and
then that translates, I think in the long run. And
(17:06):
it's definitely something that we underrated in the United States
because we hate old people.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We underate wisdom even just culturally anyway, Yeah, right, right, right,
But I definitely have loved the first half of my
life knock on wood being like wisdom, fuck wisdom, Like,
let's crunch this out. Let's figure this out on a spreadsheet.
Everything always Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're remove move fast, break stuff type of type of people.
What is what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, maybe this will convince people to come check out
our paywall semi paywald long running video games podcast one Upsmanship,
one season of which you can find for free on
the iHeart Network. But I'm gonna say, hollow Night. Maybe
this will drive people away from the podcast. I think
we had some recency buys to Hollow Night. I was
at games Com, uh writing Xbox coverage that recently when
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silks Song was dropped and announced, when we were first
playing the demo and stuff without unpacking too much for
people who don't know what the hell I'm talking about, Jack,
I think it's perfectly good. Team Cherry is great. It's
all well and good. It's fine. But the level of
success it's appreciated as it fades is making it clearly overrated,
(18:22):
as like it's just like a cute hot topic guy
in a good metro Vania. It's all right, let's all
calm down, especially having played through Silk Song as well,
and I think a lot of other great metro Venias,
which is one of my favorite indie genres get overshadowed
by that. Everybody check out Mina the Hollower.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna bring him.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I'm sure I had to beat you to it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So this is a game, all right, Well i'll sell that,
I know anything that you're talking about. This is one
of the best selling Yeah yeah, yeah, And people were like,
and it's a brilliant work of art and as it
fades in the memory, bea.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Because it has a unique melancholic look that's very simple
and fun. But as was pointed out, okay, without getting
the story too much longer, I'm working on my first
game that I hope for each is Fruition. And my
lead artist opened my eyes too by talking shit on
like we were talking about how slave a Spire has
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enjoyed this incredible success and we love the game design
is incredible and addictive and compulsive, but darn you wish
the art was just good. Like it's not good. Let's
be honest, it's just doesn't look great. It doesn't stoke
your imagination or have a unique aesthetic as something like
Darkest Dungeon perhaps, And this artist, who shall remain nameless
to our game drops. If it drops, was like, and
(19:47):
you know what, hollow Night, it looks like hot topic art,
I'll say it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I was like, I can't shake that. It's true.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, it's this indie game that everyone loved because they're like,
I just get so lonely in this weird way walking
around with this little holiw Night. But if you look
at him, he's just like a little hot topic type.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, the possible.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's just like, why did this game become the best
selling indie game of all time? At one point, I
would largely say Chance landed at the right time.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think it will fade.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
And I remember someone who was who's only playing like
Triple A like tent Bowl releases, and I remember this
coming out. I was like, Oh, this looks cool, and
I'm like, oh, it's good. That was like my thing
of like blasphemous owl boy other sure, And I think
that's when, like I think at the time, it looked cool.
And I think for people who probably didn't know a lot,
(20:38):
they're like, oh, yeah, this shit is sick. This is
the sickest thing I've ever seen. It's so different than
like what Act division or fucking you be softest way
out that it's like, oh, this feels like something new.
But yeah, once I saw it, I was like, I'm
not really, that's not the genre of game for me,
But I definitely got I was in the hype to
reading about it and be like.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, it broke through in a very major way, and
then the sequel was awaited for what like a century.
It was just insane how every every gaming convention, the
trending topic would be They're gonna say Silk Song is
coming out, but they never did.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, culturally, omnivorous, I can selfishly steer this conversation in
a direction that will make me understand things. I'm trying
to think of a movie that has a similar footprint
that's like Beloved when it comes out and then sort
of disappears from the cultural mindscape.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Aaron Brockovich.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Aaron Brockovic, I feel like people still kind of fuck
with But is it so? I do too.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I'm saying it's good, it's just not so good that
it comes up every time you mentioned the greatest movies
of all time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, okay, right.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm trying to pick one that's not like like Forrest
Gump is like that, But there's clear reasons. As a
society we decided it started to seem dated. Yeah, act
that way, But I'm like, what is forgotten? Even though
it is good, but it's just like not good.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Enough, it's not remember it forever. Yeah, yeah, I feel
like that's how people felt about the first Avatar. So
many avatars have like come out since then that it's
hard to be like it's continue to be like it's
completely disappeared. But for a while people were like, man,
Avatar was a thing, and now nobody cares about that
at all, Like nobody thinks about Avatar?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Do me young people who seem into the sequels Time
of Time Producer Catherine points out in chat, the Game
of Thrones was so like killed itself so hard that
we all decided it's depressing.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Right, let's just not remember the good time. It was good,
but let's just remember the good times.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Babe was a huge movie at the time that completely
disappeared immediately. But I feel like that would be a
little bit dismissive of this game. Like this game seems
like it's bigger and better than that, right the hours
you keep going with like such a born niche, such
(23:04):
like niche Oscar.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Wasn't it huge that? I just remember being a big deal.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
In my deal when it came out, and then everyone
was like fuck, And.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Even Dreyfus didn't So I don't know his dirt. He's
just a jerk, but yeah, isn't it. Dreyfus was like,
you know, gonna be an al Pacino the whole time.
I walked to the face of the earth, and he
sure went away.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, he did Krippendorf's tribe, that's true. He did a
lot of ones that disappeared for very good reasons. Were
like guardians of Goohol. Of course deserve to be remembered.
But shan't all right, great, overrated. I learned a lot
and now I will be like, you know, hollow, it
(23:49):
kind of low key, not as good as you think
it is.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I love I love talking video games, so I'm excited
for our episode.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Nice, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back, and a bit of
good news. Depending on your perspective, if you're some sort
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of sicko who likes the Democratic Socialists of America, you
might have been excited by the New York The results
of the New York primaries earlier this week, in which
Zoran mom Donnie's candidates defeated establishment Democratic candidates, and just
(24:40):
like this seems to be like a continuation of the
thing that we keep seeing over and over just be
you know, Walter continues to be wet. People are not
feeling the legacy Democrats.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
People don't like when you juxtapose establishment Democrats with Progressives
and DSA candidates, because.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The difference has become real clear, real quick.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
One of the reasons why Karen Bass was like, I
want to go against Spencer Pratt in the mayoral election. Yeah,
not someone to the left of me, because then I
look even worse. But yeah, Hakim, Jeffries and Zoron went
head to head over some of their picks and the
primary races that went down Tuesday, and when you know what,
Hakim lost, and he's now acting like this isn't a moment,
(25:26):
This isn't like something that could be instructive to the
future of the party and their you know, their their
their potential achievements that they can reach with midterms coming
up and beyond. Hopefully this is from the New Republican
says quote House Minority leader HACKEM. Jeffries, on the other hand,
spent Wednesday trying to downplay the fact that candidates endorsed
by Democratic Socialist New York City mayors Oronmumdani Beat the
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ones Jeffries had endorsed. Quote the mayor and I agree
to strongly disagree about some of his endorsements, and he's
got work to do in terms of the conversations that
he's going to have with members of Congress moving forward.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
When you're like speaking of succinct, yeah, yeah, just so
many words, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So you agree to disagree about the endorsements, mainly that
you didn't know how to pick a winner, you didn't
know how to back the person who actually had the
attention of the electorate. Okay, And he's got work to
do in terms of the conversations that he's going to
have with members. So he's like, so you got to
be nice to the income that boils down. He works
in the big building over there.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You're literally just describing what he does, but also saying
he's got work to do, yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Terms of conversations to have with people.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
The conversations that he's going to have with members members
Congress moving forward, like because obviously it can't be happening
in the past, so it's just a move. Did I
hit my word limit? Did I get my word limit?
Do I get paid?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It's like a weird thing where he's trying to be like,
I'm so the first sentence is I'm different. We're different, obviously, yeah,
and then the second one is just he's just trying
to like lightly sun him, just a light finger wag
to try and be like, you have no man, I'm
still the boss.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
We'll see, We'll see how people like you over here,
because I think they're gonna be mad. Yeah, you fucked
up big time, pal by doing what uh winning waiting.
That was fucked up the way he won.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Stop just bringing up stuff about how like the Democratic
Party could be doing more. It's like, funk, that's like
you're talking about me, dude. That's cool. Man, now, James Carvell,
he is losing his gator ass eating mind right now
at the idea of these extremist gaining more ground and
(27:51):
Democratic Party. I'm calling for a great schism, the chism, gizzm.
This is what I'm calling about. This is what he's This.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Whole paragraph that you've just said is very heavily influenced
by that Australian T shirt that we keep talking about
gator ass eating you've talked about. I do have to
bring it up again. It's an alligator or croco now.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
If it's I guess, yeah, And it's saying I'm on
the rag mate chucking to me dumper.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Period. Yeah, So I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Know if these people speak Australian miles. I'm just saying, now, look, yes,
it might seem like I'm stuck on this T shirt,
but I'm saying at an unconscious level, so are you.
Because you said he's not just a gator eating, he's
got a gator ass.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Eating, and that he said, and you mispronounced.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
All right, you're right, you're right. That's you're right, You're
you're thinking. It's on.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's on all our minds.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And I, in real time, am not familiar with that
shirt or that phrase. But it doesn't take more than
the delay that internet lag already has for you to
go on me rag Okay, what.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He's trying to.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Get away?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They have away with words. That's not what this story
is about. It's about James Cabble. It's about James cabble
right now. And he went on the political podcast and
he's talking about this is what he first does his
first thing. I think he's treating the Democrat like the DSA, uh,
you know, candidates, and like the sort of rise of
(29:50):
these progressives to the left of the Democrats as sort
of like like gray scale or some ship from Game
of Thrones, like it's on a finger now, but it
is going it's gonna creep up your whole body and
then you're gonna turn into stone. So we got to
cut the arm off now, that's what we gotta do.
That's why he's.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
YouTube, So we got to sit through this.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
He man, ad we got something that looks like just
ignore that.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Uh, why are you wear in that loue with that
New Orleans Marty graul. He's wearing a Marty Crass sweat
shirt right now too. Look he's he's on brand always
with an open suitcase just right behind him wherever he's at.
Just I love how immediate professional. Anyway, here's James Carville
(30:37):
proposing a great schism, and.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I actually do think it's time for Democrats to talk
the s words him.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Everybody is always said no, no, we're coalition, We're a
big tent, and there's some there's just some ship that
I can't be in the same tent with social And
we talked about Madona Street for three lash night in Manhattan.
I did call it a comic corridor.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
First, if I go back to that Jenna side, Yes,
he's just so good, just so out to none of
these all these people will never say his name correctly,
just like.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Cuomo madaby Well and now he got this one madaby Well, Joseph,
I don't know who you charld Mogabi whatell he is
anyway because they disrespect his name. And then like we
just heard, sorry, let James just you go on, I.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Mean street for three larash Knight in Manhattan. I did
call it a comic corridor.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Do they They don't, They never have. In fact, it's
usually had a mayor who is Republican. Actually, from my
adult life, it's had real Republican mayors. Uh actually seems
to be a place where one very talented candidate has
been able to communicate to people what socialism in a way,
but uh, in a way that you can't get in
(32:03):
front of.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
But however, they Manhattanites famously do call their dumpers, the
commy cord.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Hey I'm checking here. Hey, hey you chuck it back there.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Chuck it is just such a fun.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's like I'm gonna throw a bang into you, and
I don't say it like.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Chuck it it. Oh fuck, all right, sorry we're talking
about sure, Okay, he.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Goes on, We'll get a little bit more, because he
does say he has to come back to this whole
idea of like they just some of the things they're
talking about. It they not full the democratic part of day.
In fact, they don't wish the Democratic Party will, which
you're like, yeah, I mean, but but for reasons because
the party has constituted is woefully incapable to govern in
this era of ND stage capitalism. So yeah, and that's sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(33:01):
we need a new fighter in the ring, someone who
actually understands what's going on and also can understand what
the will of people are and create something that maybe
is a little more potent than merely going, uh, we can,
we can, we can gesture things like equality, but not
really follow through on policy like that. They call it
the comic corridor. They got to call it. I know,
if you've been to up West Side they called it
(33:22):
a comic corridor. Really, oh yeah, all up and down there,
crazy crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Then hope the socialist slant.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You'll see slide, you'll see Oh man, all Palestinians know
exactly Jewish people in all New York. So it's just
impossible for us to win there.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I was by a Marxism square garden for the NAIN.
That's crazy, it's crazy crazy. Uh So yes, here he
goes on again about how he just he's like I
can't stand this ship.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's so angry about really losing his mind. Yeah, like
he's angrier than he will is when Trump won.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, truly, because I think he realizes, Look, I think
it's like it's a it's a dinosaur being like, hey,
what's that big rock coming down from this guy?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The defenders of the status quo, the base tenets of
reality as it stands, as it undergoes change, that supersedes party.
They're like, right, I would prefer reality than it is.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
He kind of changes his tune up a little bit
later in this in this interview where he's sort of
like we got to talk about excuse him, Like he's
almost dealing with like, uh, like a hostage situation. Where
he's like, hey man, and maybe we can make this
work for everybody. Like again, so here's his he tries
to be like, maybe don't use the word democrat for democrats.
I don't know. These aren't really solutions. This is again
(34:42):
a senile old man who's scared of the future.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'm me as the leader of it is you know,
you insist that you know Trod insists that the people
that run into your bowner run as a democratic socialist
and don't use a democratic party is your guideline, and
lets negotiate a terms of aschusm I mean, we can
happening to just turns for both of us. But I'm done.
(35:06):
I'm not in that political party. I'm I am totally
comfortable in a political party that.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Is going to throw his hat down like an angry Prassic.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Michael. Michael is not joking. For those listening. He took
his baseball cap off, like his instinct was to take
it off, stop on it, and then start shooting his
guns down until at the ground or.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Like the first white manager who like Jackie Robinson, hit
a home run off their team. He's like, God, God,
why didn't letting this filst in the league. This is this,
I don't understand this.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So he's there.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
You call that a fastball, but that is what Yeah,
he just assumes that they're going easy out of Yeah,
it's how he would be reacting to Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So he goes on. Now, this is where he reveals
that what he really sees because I don't he's not
he's not, unfortunately unforced, he's not dumb enough to be
like the things they want are crazy, like universal health care.
But this is where his neo lib Democrat brain leaks
the truth out. And here he goes because he says,
(36:23):
I'm fine with certain aspects, but this, this, this is
the part that's real instructive.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
I am totally comfortable in a political party that spends
time questioning the policies of the government of Israel. In fact,
I'm enthusiastic about that. I don't want to be in
a political party denies the right of the state of
Israel to exist. That's just not I just can't do that.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Who is he who is interviewing? By the way, Sorry,
we just got all right, this is all too visual,
but I will just okay, I will just say.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Okay, so let me dumper.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's my crocodile is saying chuck it. So the chucking
it is really the no two.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
See what is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Evidently the future of your party? Like the energy, the
unbridled energy that is happening. And to say, okay, we
need to immediately go to work negotiating.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
The terms of a schism is so we we could
cover more ground if we split up. Like what's insane
to me is watching everything about politics and many processes
just accelerates to a point of hyperbolic.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Grotesqueerree of itself.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, So the Democratic Party has gone from we cannot
win a thing too?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh no, we're winning?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, fucking how do we how do we make sure
we don't win? Like this? Don't want to?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Can we undermine this? Hey man, vote blue no matter who? Well?
I mean, well that's raw. That one that ain't blue,
gets your eyes tested, that's green or some ship. I
don't know what the fuck that is That ain't a
fucking body I'm a part of. Uh yeah, that guy,
he's the person who's hosting, is a guy named al Hunt,
(38:14):
and al Hunt you know he's like like fucking a
Bloomberg guy. You know this is you know, yeah, he's
everybody person. Ultimately, that was a conversation between al eighty
three year old Al Hunt and eighty one year old
James Carrville about the future of the fucking bro Shut
(38:35):
the fuck up. You got to the end of the
buffet line. Now you take your ass to the table
and go.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It must be the kids who are wrong.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
It has to be, must be. But yeah, so again genocide,
like you were saying, Michael, the tent has to include
the killing of Palestinian people. Okay, because I'm gonna conflate
the genocide with a much more uous argument about to
exist in the right of a state to exist, rather
(39:04):
than contending with the genocide of it all. He wants
the people to.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Be able to question the direction of Israeli, just not
able to do anything about it in any way whatsoever.
You can ask questions, but people have been asking questions
for decades, for long, and we don't want those They
continue to do whatever the fuck they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The thing with questions is an answer might emerge, and
then you don't want to act on anything like that.
So let's not so Other progressives, you know, obviously, are
not so cynical. The executive director for Data for Progress.
Ryan O'Connell said, quote, New York City democratic primaries are
a specific thing, and that New York DSAY has an
incredibly strong ground game. Sure Zorn is an incredibly popular politician,
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and it's a very blue area. But I think there's
also a lot of things that can be extrapolated nationwide,
which we know that to be true because at the
end of the day, he's not being.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
Like, eh, you gotta like this, So where a Yankee
only things you do like, it's like you're talking about
shit that affects working people.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Okay, so I get the context of it. But again,
the platform has wild appeal, wide appeal. He goes on,
He cites, he cites their own data or polls that
Data for Progress is done. That quote found voters who
see voter see candidates who don't stand up to the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee or APAK as untrustworthy on
other issues, and that democratic socialist policies like mom Donni's
(40:29):
have nationwide appeal. Quote when you see victories as large
as these, and when you grow your numbers in Congress,
it tends to change parts of the party more broadly.
And that's why you're seeing the old, you know, desiccated
husk of human being, and James carve Will being.
Speaker 9 (40:48):
Like, I don't want anything to do it this shit,
that wave looks dangerous. Give me away from that way,
give me that way. What's that a surfboard? No, let
me get in a coffin. That's what I want. So yeah,
it's it's just it's like, it really is mind.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Blowing now that that that like to your point, Michael,
the the Democrats hate winning thing is just purely now
just saying outright, no, I don't we we can't win.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
We're not gonna win, not like not with this on
for winning. You have a lot of explaining to do.
You got, Yeah, you're gonna have to have some or
difficult conversations with the losers of our party with all
this winning bullshit that you're springing on us. Last minute.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Excuse me that congressman you ousted. He has kids. Okay,
how old are they? Forty eight and fifty two?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
You know what they working coal? And you were coming
for that too.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Where this is your problem? Posed to get black lungs?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah? What are they gonna pivot to if we go
all renewables and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
What are his son just open just graduated from Columbia
and opened a thirty million dollars round of fundraiser for
his company. Uh, you have any idea how well that is?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yes, yeah, it's a new aout. There's a new AI
chat about that can accurately identify a child military target
in less than three seconds, no mess up this time,
it will accurately know. And he just raised a lot
of money for that. We gotta we gotta support a
young man.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Is there any way that Zoram runs for president? It's
like to too soon, I'm sure everybody would say.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
But that's one to skip a few ninety nine one
hundred for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm ready. I'm ready to see that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Well yeah, if it's a revolution time, sometimes you get surprises. Yeah, yeah,
you just got doing that. And I do think it's
whether we ask. I mean, it's definitely global violence. But
of course I'm still feeling privileged and insulated. My life
chugs along only with random tragedies striking people who are
like friends of friend or whatever.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
But it feels like, regardless.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
We're in an intellectual civil war already, and like it's
interesting to watch in my social media circles at least
people who I think both are of good faith, like,
oh no, you really mean that. You didn't come to
troll or try to who are like, you have to
vote blue no matter people really being like, vote blue
no matter who, because of course the stuff that breaks
(43:13):
their heart concentration, camps, ice and stuff. And then people
are like, so you don't care what's happening about It's
like and of course I laugh, and I'm like, you
got to expand your mind enough to hold both at once.
But I believe all those people are urgently saying that
and they mean it, and they're like, yeah, it's like
people are It's like, it makes me think of those
(43:34):
letters that are like the Civil Wars or brother from brother,
and it's we're actually saying people are like, look, normally
we'd agree, but not that man. And it's for James Carville.
His line is some stupid bullshit. But everyone is finding
out where they stand as this schism comes in.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
You know, there are definitely mainstream Democrats who like people
who just vote and are vote blue no matter who.
People who are mad and are like, well you got
as are just divisive.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
And I think we're testing the idea that there might
be a larger, a large enough chunk of society now
that would prefer to move past a sports themed political
system like.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Are you red or you're blue? I'm actually in dire need.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, let's maybe discuss it in a more
detailed way than that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, So I'm reaching out I have, you know, I've
been using chat, gbt UH and claude to reach out
to everybody who says the vote lu no, no matter who thing.
And we're just negotiating terms.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Of okay, good, we're we're getting pizza sent and we're
just going to negotiate depending on pieza track. But I
know people I have acquaintances who work for well known
Democrats who have done so for a long time and
are not progressive, even though like we're we're in the
same age cohort, and they've seen the same things and
(44:56):
roughly arrived to the same conclusions. And I see for
some of those people too, there's like a rigidity because
they've felt justified in like in like hitching their wagon
to this capital d Democratic party, that there's like a
weird loyalty that they're It's like some people, I can
see it kind of chipping away where it's like, yeah,
this is like this, they know it's not working, and
(45:19):
other people are just sort of I think doubling down
to be like this is just like a blip. It's
only going to work in these places because it's really
existential for them to be.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Like, don't have loyalty to brands people like the second.
It doesn't matter how long you've been an Apple person.
If you don't like iPhones anymore, switch immediately to shit
looks cool to you, So Harry fucking like. I mean,
it's a bit of a hassle, but I'm glad. I'm
I'm divesting from certain companies I want to like Gmail.
I've had my entire life. I think Google is completely
(45:49):
evil at this point, so I'm moving to proton Mail.
I'm doing. You know, there's like you don't have to
do stuff just because you're used to it, very very key.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, well I'm gonna I'm gonna double down. I actually
like that Apple products cost five hundred dollars more today
than they did a week ago. That's actually good, dude,
at least at least around Let's do it to me.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, and I like me it's delicious. I need society
to properly value the cost of things so that I
can be my appetites can be curved appropriately.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
All Right, all right, that's that's enough of that. We're
gonna take a big break. We're gonna come back and
talk about that Australian T shirt.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
We'll be ready knock it off before you before I
chuck it in my dump, in your own, your own dumper.
I don't know. We don't say that down to buy you.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
And we're back. We're back, And so Gja said, it's
vaguely aware that this is like this massive title wave
that is coming was supposed to be here already. Now, yeah,
I was delayed. But this, uh you.
Speaker 10 (47:12):
Know duty called the track. Will you answer grand theft auto? Wait,
that's not great. I can't be hit anyways, it is.
This game is expected to make one billion dollars on
pre orders alone. This for a digital version of the game.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
That can't sat a game that can't sell up because
it so it's just people being like, it's like peace
of mind, one billion dollars worth a peace of mind.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
As the Ride Along Lifelong game addicts, I have to
point out, uh, I think pre ordering gets you digital
stuff in the game you can't otherwise get. So there
is a however tangible you consider video games, there is
a tangible reason. It's not to play it early. It's
to get like a special jacket and a special car
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I got access to this car this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
James car playing this game. Yeah, this is what I
do to this call as to this thing look like
a truck one thing. And this is I think, just
how we exist our reality now is anytime there's a
thing like this that lots of people like, there will
be massive scams. This is happening with World Cup tickets.
This is this happens for everything.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Taylor Swift tickets, anything. Yeah, that's hype and demand somewhat
scarce or exclusive.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's almost like we all grew up playing Grand Theft
Auto one, two, four and five, and we're like, you
know what, fuck the social contract. I'm gonna scam everyone.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Just like in GTA five. You can manipulate this. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's like making the most profitable movie franchise, Pirate this
movie Pirate. Pirates are great, right right right.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
But they are Yeah, so fans of the game that
lets you pretend to commit crimes are becoming the victims
of crimes, sorry, specifically a ton of fake websites trying
to scam people with fake sales where they promise you
things that are like a little too good to be true.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, like fucking beta access.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Like yeah, they're like you can get in there now,
Oh you want to? It seems like you're interested in
this game.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Do you want to like.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Get in there and start like playing right now?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
What's that worth to you? Dude? I think there was
one person, right, someone who with like a terminal illness
got to play, like an early version of it.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
There was to make a wish, to make a wish,
to make a.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Wish, right, Yeah, yeah, there was someone where they were like.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Rockster came out with a build and yeah yeah, they're like.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
There you go. Yeah, but anything like on a website
like hey man for like like one hundred and eighty bucks, dude,
you play the bait and get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
This web page says we need you to help us
build Vice City and it has a picture of Uncle
Sam next to it.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
No, I love the one.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
So it it seems like if someone asked me, well,
are you dying, you could play it if you're dying. Yeah,
that would be read like a scam, but that was
the real one.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, right right, yeah, it's I mean the other thing too,
it's so crazy is like we grew up on physical media,
and like for the people that are buying a day
of they're like, oh, is there a disc in They're
like nah, no, no, no, there's a download code for the
digital version of the game, and like, well, when we're
gonna get the fucking disc because they already have a
(50:29):
problem with digital media and like games just going completely
inert on us because the lack of like having a
physical copy of it. But hey, well we'll see, we'll
see if that was.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Also as a lifelong gamer, it's poignant to me. Their
Ultimate Edition sets like a new high watermark for a
game price, and it's exactly the number that in all
classic j RPGs are, most notably like Final Fantasy seven
and stuff. It's the most damage you could the system
could process.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Nine nine nine nine Yeah. Yeah, how much does this cost?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Quad nine? Just give me all of whatever you have,
all your credits?
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, because we like so each game has like one
through five, have they all been a leak where everyone's like,
this is actually like meeting expectations. It kind of feels
like that. It kind of feels like things like almost
like the Toy Story franchise, like where people really liked
each subsequent sequel quite a bit, and so this one
(51:33):
is just going to demolish everything. Like, are you guys
feeling like this is actually going to be as good as.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Much like Half Life? I would say from valve Gta, Yeah,
has become sort of a state of the industry statement
on Sandbox games, which behind first person shooters like Call
of Duty, are the most popular. Actually now with the
new generation Minecraft and Survival building is the new hotness.
But like there's still to be money to be made
(52:01):
out of Sandbox the game where you're dropped into a
city and it works like a real city. You can
do anything, get in and out of a car, ship, whatever,
and uh, it just rockstars sort of on the hook.
I think in gamers' minds to present every time one
that is a full generational leap ahead, Like we don't
want to in one generation. Usually we want the next thing,
(52:24):
and that's what its claims to be. It always costs
the moon. I've heard some buzz in gaming journalism corners
that They're like this will never happen again, Like this,
this human endeavor is too monumental. They're already talking internally
about like what is the future of rock Star because
we don't want to have to keep going to make
(52:45):
we gotta talk that.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
It's like we're actually not going to go to the
moon anymore. It's just like we're not going to do
that anymore. We're so fucking tired. Becau, this is so hard.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Again, I mean because like what the I've seen anecdotally,
like the development for GT sings between like one and
two billion dollars, and like the bers Khalifa cost one
and a half billion.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Dollars to write.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
It's up there with the most expensive Folly's Man has ever.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
And a tiny sliver of Ai Folly overall.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Also, dang, looking at the logo, I just realized I've
avoided watching trailers. But there's no way this game doesn't
start with saying Grand Theft Auto six and then you
zoom out in the VI says Vice City. Oh there's
absolutely no way. Actually, I bet you could have.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Bet on that on poly Market. I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Oh yeah, el Village style, Yeah, yeah. It will also
be fascinating to me just to see because in the
time between five and six, we have gone from a
world where South Park Edge Lord humor un ironically was
moving the most comedy dollar of any kind of humor,
(54:02):
and now we are moving into an era where there's
a lot of that, but there's also the battle for oh,
don't don't only punch up and you know, thoughtfully, everyone
knows that over our lifetimes there's been more thoughtful humor
and more thoughtful empathetic guidelines put on, like what's the
goal here? Why are we doing this? Grand Theft Auto
five has a thing where you like, at gunpoint forced
(54:26):
Ryan Seacrest to strip naked and dance in public because
he's such a fucking beta cook boy, Like that's a
and that's played for Like, isn't that funny? You get
to do that in the game?
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Man. We're at a point.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Where when they drop a new Halo remaster there's a
furor because the idea that they added pink to the
skyline is like, see they're putting bisexual messages in the
names and shit, like when this drops the thread they
are trying to like walk between we have to get
everyone's mind. We can't alienate. So it has to be
(54:59):
ed enough that these people don't flip out and burn
all the their PlayStations and boycott us. But these other
people don't think we'd asshole. I'm fascinated to see how Yeah,
I can't right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
I can't wait to not play it and hear about
all of your experience. Everyone will hate it when it
comes out, So I'm going to be coming.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
I'm going to be coming onto these recordings like eyes
Half Open, just like us up all Night Plane and yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Oh dude, yeah, I remember, we're going to do a
multi part series on one Apsmanship.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
So thirteen, when GTA five came out, everybody I used
to work at Power one O six at that radio station,
when they came out, all of the digital team, like
the people did social the video, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
We were all America's productivity just drunk. Yeah, dude, do
you remember.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
A day all the crack writers came in and all
we could talk about is that you can fucking go
to the cracked offices, the ones that are in cell
on the Santa Monica Pier and like you could look
and be like that's where we write, that's hours we're
in there. It was all we could talk about for
a week.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
They had those offices there like by the the actual building.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
They had a perfect realistic like the number of windows
was accurate, the shape was accurate. I'm like, that's the
fucking correct though.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Wait where were they? Oh that was Oh, you guys
are on the problem.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Because they did a chunk of Santa Monica and the
tracked office was right by the pier. So whatever technology
they used or you know, they have our building, it
was in there.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
And then you guys ended up over there like near Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
They laid us off day.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah, well we consimulate. But there's some loose graphic pillows
from Society six by the exit you can the way out.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Michael Sway. Such a pleasure having you as always the
daily Like, guys, where can people find you? Follow you,
see you, hear you? All that could start?
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Yeah, find all our free pods mostly podcasts by just
searching small beans wherever you listen to podcasts. If you
go to patreon dot com and seek out small beans,
you can pay six bucks a month to get twice
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think a lot of folks won't know this. We have
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But another underrated thing of mine that I'm putting a
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I'll throw them away or whatever, but they're to him.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Oh huh, he'll have chat GPT read it to him.
Am I right, Miles? Where can people find you as
their work media you've been enjoying?
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Mark Zuckerberg burns one hundred billion dollars a year on
dork glasses and failed AI models. I don't ever want
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to hear about wasting government again until you acknowledge corporate
America's far, far more wasteful, which is I think an
interesting and an addition to how we talk about things
that I'm hoping people are starting to include that this
is we need to look at it as this is
not a good way to run a civilization. It's a
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wasteful way that they just get away with because they're like, well,
it's got to be profitable.
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it would work.
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This is stud I think it's getting more obviously no
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pretty good luck.
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A lot of conversations with many Bostonians about.
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