April 27, 2026 • 54 mins
In this edition of False Flag OperaTrend?, Jack and special guest co-host Jacquis Neal discuss their respective weekends, the very eventful White House Correspondents dinner, the proposed pro-IDF bill and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Did you see the video of the guy running past
the security checkpoint. I haven't seen ship. I haven't looked
into it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I haven't seen the video of him running past.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Now it looks like he's looks like he's repeating invisibility spell,
invisibility visibility spell unders like it's like, what are you doing?
Why do you think that's gonna work? Oh my god,
I don't know how to got.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't know how they got that.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You can't see me, you can't see me, you can't
see me.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my god, Like damn, dam Dan then and Dan
then and damn. He's got the invincibility star. But it
is funny to like think, so, how does one go
about staging this conspiracy, staging this assassination attempt? Did they were? They?
Like you did? The mentalist who they had performing, because
(00:58):
that that's where the Correspondents Center is. Instead of having
a comedian who's doing satire, they have a mentalist who's
doing magic tricks. Maybe he convinced him that he was
invincible and invisible.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Mm hmmm, I like that. I like that theory. Or
he convinced him that he was just at a D
and D convention.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
His gun wasn't a gun.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
His gun was like a wand and that's what he was,
That's what he thought he was shooting.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It was all very sexually charged, like first of all
Trump was like and then a bunch of very good
looking secret Service agents whisked me away. And then they
also ripped his shirt off. It's like, real, why are
you guys? Yeah, he didn't have a shirt on when
they arrested him on the carpetl try. They pushed him
(01:49):
up against the wall started sloppy kissing him on the mouth.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this weak trend edition
of de Nally's Geist Vaguely Intrigued. It is my co host.
(02:13):
My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm throwed to be joined
by today is very special guest co host Jackie Snell. Hello,
little little Missus doubtfire. I'm getting missus doubtfire vibes. Hello,
Chopped and screwed, Missus doubtfire.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Missus doutfire with a little toilet with a little Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Basically, Tyler Perry saw Missus doubtfire. We are part where
it was revealed that it was the dad. What if
it was just missus doubtfire all the way down. What
do we cut?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What have we cut? The negligent dad part out? Just
have him and dry.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's the bummer. That is the part that my kids
did not like. When I watched Missus Doutfire, Get back
to the silly guy doing silly things.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Get back to Robin Williams. Who's this old British lady?
I love Missus tout Fire? There is stul fire rips.
But it also has so many references that completely went
over my kids' heads. But also they thought they thought
were funny, completely out of contact, like they were old
for me, Like a lot of the like impressions he's
(03:31):
doing when he's like, oh and I'm going to be
and are like references from like sixties and seventies television.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But but if you want to feel even older, if
a movie like that were to come out now, all
of those references would be from two thousand, right, that's
all right, that's relatively the timeframe for like when that
movie came out. To the things he was referencing, Yeah,
so that would be us, that would be us referencing like, yeah,
(04:00):
all the nineteen nineties into the nineties movies.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I'm over here referencing Jaws, which is like fifty right
now we're here, We're referencing Missus Doufi exactly. Oh shit,
all right, Uh, this is the episode where we tell
you was trending over the weekend, what is trending right now?
(04:24):
And we also let you get to know us a
little bit better by telling you some things we think
are overrated underrated. We're going to really have to stretch
this over underrated segment because really slow news week, news weekend. No,
that's not true that I was crazy, man, it was crazy.
We I guess we can say that up top, there's wow,
(04:45):
a very spectacular scary White House Correspondence dinner that everybody
was like we that was fun, very very strange times. Yeah,
we'll got all that. But first, chiquies, we do like
to let our listeners know a little bit about ourselves
(05:06):
by telling them something we think it is overrated, underrated.
Do you have anything that you think is broadly underrated?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know what I think is underrated? What's that I
think that do not disturb button on your phone? It's
underctually underrated, at least to me. I know some people
they use it a lot, but I don't use it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't use it.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I like, ain't nobody calling me like that in the
middle of the night. And the people that do that
have in the past I've just roundly ignored and they stopped.
So I ain't getting messages like that, and I don't
keep notifications on. But every once in a while a
call comes through, which is what happened today, and it
(05:48):
was okay, it was a fine call, but it did
wake me up in the middle of the night, and
then I couldn't go back to sleep, and I started
operating off of I'm operating off of like two hours
of sleep.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, so you're not disturbed. Do not disturb mode before
bed is what's underrated.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Is what's underrated. I think like that's something that your
phone should just do right, even notices your phone is down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, where's this AI that's supposed to be like learning
air technology, learning our lives and being like, oh, I'll
do I'll do them a little solid them.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
A little solid and if somebody really needs you, if
somebody really needs you, and I think this should be
the case no matter what, if somebody really needs you,
whether your phone is on do not disturb or even
silent yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If they call you three straight times, it goes through.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, it goes through, even if it's on silent, because
that that obviously signals like, this is an emergency pick
up and if it's not an emergency, it should be
written in the constitution.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I can cuss you the fuck out. Yes, if you're
calling me, you call me.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Three straight times and it's not an emergency, I can
cuts you the fuck out and there's nothing you can
do about it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You got to take it on the chan.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You got to three straight times, and then when you
finally pick up, they just say you up.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm up. I wasn't trying to tell yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah. Man. That's that's very frustrating to get woken up
like that. Usually the thing that happens that will wake
me up as like a butt dial from one of
my parents or something at five in the morning because
they're on the East coast. But but I feel like
they should come on guys, let's let's learn. Let's learn
when to let us through a good one.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Even on D and D even though do not disturb,
you can set a little settings and be like, but
if this person calls you at that through this person
calls you can let that through, which kind of defeats
the purpose of do not deserve. It's like people are
saying like, oh, well, if it's somebody who if they call,
you know, as an emergency, then you should pick it up.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But sometimes those people call and is not an emergency
because my mom, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Kind of tough for us. Takes a pressure off of us.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just three calls in a row, three calls in a row.
I think there might be something like that, but yeah,
it might be able to do, but not on silent.
If you keep your phone on silent, it's just gonna
stay silent. He calls in a row. And if the
person can't make three calls in a row, they were
about to die anyway.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There was nothing that one call and you picking up.
What's gonna do?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
There should be a questionnaire that they have to fill
out to get it off of silent, you know, where
it's just like they've actually thought it through enough that
they thought they're.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Doing calling for it.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, and I can do that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What are you calling for?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And then you and you say it'll be like we've
deemed this is unnecessary. This person's phone is on silent,
they will not be picking up, you know, like with.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Some healthcare providers are like, please hang up and dial
nine one one if you're having a medical emergency, and
you know, yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Good advice too.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
If it's like an emergency, you're like, we'll call nine
one one and then will inform the person.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah, all right, So do not disturb? Yeah, I
kind of. I sometimes use it during the day and
then forget to turn it off and then I have
like forty emails because I do not disturb for forty minutes.
So uh yeah, I just kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, the dude, my underrated thing is do not disturb
needs to like is it is underrated?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Better?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It also needs to work better.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We need a better do not disturb guys.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If I at one pm and then it's still on
at ten pm, take it off for an hour?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah yeah, like a you mean to have this?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I think you left the zone.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, Like just generally, I think mine last week was
about like how iPhones or like AirPods will just randomly
connect to like any anybody who Like when my wife's
phone enters the connect, it will just connect to her
phone randomly, like if she's on a call. It's like,
you probably want to be talking to your wife's friend
(09:52):
who's on a call with your wife in the parking lot.
It's just yeah, just some common sense, just some common
sense features in our technology that just make it work
for us stupid people. You guys, all right? My underrated
is what cars and like how people drive can tell
(10:13):
you about people. I was reminded I had a friend's
mom who seemed very like normal. This was back before
you know, we could drive. But when she would drive
us around, every time she would come to a stop,
it was like a harrowing edge of your seat uh cata,
(10:33):
Like she would stop like two inches from the person's
bumper and I'm sure of you, like very last second
in a way that made me feel like she was
maybe like fucking with me. And she ended up being
Elizabeth Holmes from there. No, she just ended up being
a slightly fucked up person that you know, I got
(10:54):
to know as I got to know him and his
family a little bit longer. But I was reminded of
that when I heard about the study that I heard
about on the dough Boys podcast. As I hear about
all my favorite studies, Nick Wiger mentioned this study that
said that people who have loud cars. You assume are
(11:15):
just going to be narcissistic and like ignorant and just
be like, oh, look at me, look at me. But
they did a study. This scientist in Canada did a
study and found that the personality profile of those people
is that they are sadists, like they want to inflict harm.
(11:36):
They know exactly what they're doing. This is from a
CBC article about the study. When she got the results,
she expected to see strong correlations between someone who prefers
a look at me exhaust system and narcissism, but that
wasn't the case. We found that it was sadism and
psychopathy was predicting who wants to modify their mufflers, who
(11:56):
feels more connected to their vehicle, and they think loud
cars are really cool. It seems to be this callous
disregard for other people's feelings and their reactions. That's the
psychopathy coming out. And it's also they probably get a
kick out of enjoying watching people get startled, So which
this is worse, right, Yeah, yeah, that's worse. Yeah, I
(12:17):
just look at me. It's like, look a look at
how uncomfortable, Like they know they know how loud it is.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, somebody in my mom's place. Every morning at like
six in the morning or something, some dude like who
has a motorcycle will like rev up his motorcycle every morning,
like and like just right outside of people's windows, just
reving up his motorcycle and then like doing aro and
(12:43):
then turns his music up to one hundred percent so
as loud as hell, yes, and then like drives off
as loud as he can.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I'm just like, there's no need to do that.
There's no he's he does it every morning.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
He's like they've complained to the building manager about it,
and like the building manager he still does it. And
I'm just like, this is like this is a person.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
On par with like a murderer.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, right, Like it's I think it's early stages. I
think it's in the same like a personality family as
like people like it should it should be regarded the
way that we regard like people who like are capturing
animals and like fucking torturing animal.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's like, oh damn all right, yeah, like you it
makes sense, like they get a little kick out of it.
It's like it's not that they're aloof or even so
much that they're just being I mean, they are assholes,
but it's deeper than that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
They like enjoy being asshole.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, which I don't know. That's definitely not I
had always taken it as like some form of like
emasculated person who is just like look at me. But
it's actually they know how much you hate it. Is
kind of the finding or the what the study suggests
that like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
That that's that's because the do I'm talking about knows
how much everybody hates it because he hasn't complained about told,
he's been told.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
People's not an accident.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
He still does. Yeah, damn, yeamn. This is a good
this is a good one.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
There's also this study so that this is one of
these things that back back in the cracked days, like
there was this scientific study that never seemed quite right
to me. So they said that like one of the
biggest correlations between aggressive like asshole drivers, uh, and like
it's it's not any sort of car, it's actually that
(14:32):
they have lots of bumper stickers. And the theory that
they had is that like if you have bumper stickers,
you more closely identify with their cars as like an
extension of their body and like they're thinking of it
as like my body is my but I feel like
everybody once you get in a car, like your car
is sort of anx, like becomes an extension of your body.
That's just like how driving work. I think like this
(14:56):
made me think. I think those people just like are
driving back on purpose and like driving aggressively on purpose
to spike people like they're sadistic, and then they want
you to like look at them and read their views
and the yeah, yeah, they're like, yeah, you don't like
my driving each ship.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I've never had have I ever had a bumper I
think I've had one bumper sticker before and it was
like on my first ever car.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So I'm sure there's like, I'm sure there's uh, you know,
exceptions to this rule. I'm sure that people who like
having loud cars for other reasons, but yeah, or like
a couple of bumper stickers here and there. But it's
just like as a tendency, I do feel like, oh,
the the idea that people are sadistic is hard for
(15:44):
me to picture, but I think I think it's out
there more often than we realize, you know, especially especially
over the roads. I will say, also, not a terminal diagnosis.
I've been a bad asshole is driver at various points
in my life. You can change, But I would say
that a change didn't come from me like learning the
laws better or being like more afraid of getting a ticket.
(16:07):
It just came from me becoming a better person over
the course of like being an adult, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Or just you know, chilling now and being like, you
know what, I got to keep my blood pressure and
most of it is just you know, most most people
like grow up when they realize they got to keep
their blood pressure down. That's right, Like, man, this blood
pressure is getting looked too high. Let me calm down here.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's not helping, it's not anybody. This is just creating
cast what it's something you think is overrated.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
This is going to be a crazy one because let
me tell you, I love the thing that I'm about
to say, because I think it is one of I
think it is one of the best deals, like a
legitimate deal, like unlike most things.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That we get. And it is AMC A list. Okay,
I think the AMC A list is a list.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm an a lister. I'm an at every time. At
the beginning of the AMC movies. They were like, we
want to think our a lists. I raised my hand
and waved two people. I turned to the audience, like
they're thanking me. They thanking me. I think it's the
best deal. Four movies a week. So basically, what's that?
Sixteen movies a month for thirty dollars and you can
(17:21):
see any format, So like I just get I just
go one movie on Imax or Adobe screen or whatever.
It's twenty six bucks in LA. Like by the time
I see my second movie, I've paid for the next month.
I pay for the next month. You see three movies
in a month, you've paid for two and a half
three months of that. So it's I think it's the
(17:42):
best deal. Here's why it's overrating.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I'm on the edge of my seat here.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I miss being able to like steal movies.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I miss it has made it has made us degenerates
sanitized because we it makes no sense for us to
like buy a ticket to one movie and then go
to a movie on that one or like or just
like you know what, I'm gonna buy this ticket and
I'm gonna just go sit in the seat that cause
(18:14):
you can see on the thing now and you can log.
It has made it so easy to go to the theater,
like you know, legally and that and I miss I'm
on every Christmas. I haven't done this in three years now.
I used to every Christmas go buy a movie in
the morning and then see a second movie, and then
(18:35):
by the time I got out, it was like three
four o'clock in the afternoon, it was time for some
Christmas celebrations, Christmas dinners. Like now I don't even do
that because like I don't even feel I'm too lazy
to go and like click two movies in my AMC
because that's a plan. That's a plan I gotta you know,
instead of like all right, we're movie about to start now,
and then I just walk into like you know, uh
(18:57):
ready or not to or something you know like that.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Just miss like opening the Dolby opening, coming out of
this theater. Let's see what this one's used?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So good to steal an IMAX movie. It used to
feel so good. I don't get that rush anymore. I
don't get that rush because of the savings and the
ease of the A list and this and this over
and like that that ease is overrated. I think every
once in a while what I'm really saying is we
need a little bit of rush sometimes. And that's a
low level crime. That's a crime that is not hurting anyone.
(19:32):
Like and I know, and I'm in the movie business,
and I know people are like, woa if you pay
for it, nah, man, that's was gonna be empty anyway.
It's not hurting anybody. Man, I'm probably helping the actual workers,
the a MC workers because I'm gonna get a little
bit more popcorn, I'm get a little bit more drink.
I'm gonna pay for a little bit more something something like.
(19:52):
It's a low it's a low lift crime. And I
miss I miss having low lift crimes to like keep
me afloat to do worse things in life.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's what we need. People need to be able to.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That was keeping That was keeping you away from worse,
giving me away from worse crimes, like you've been on
a spree.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And now yeah, every would listen.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You can't be responsible for what's happening.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't bemember they're going the wrong guy this weekend.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The blur that blur in that video telling you shout
out wish Master. That was the first movie that Brian
the editor stole, oh.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Good one, good one class we steal the movies no more,
And I still would if I could, but it makes
no sense like it It would be dumb for me
to steal a movie now, but that's mine mine.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Last time I went to the movies, I noticed that
they did not have the names and times of the
movies outside of the theater like they you know, they
used to. They have those signs that are you know,
electric signs that they can write the name and time
of the movie. And I I had to wonder, first
(21:06):
of all, is it just like something's broken or are
they are they just like no, we were not going
to tell them because too many people are just like
going in timing it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Out, which makes so many people are all right, it
was over my overrated.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Is it kind of connected to our first one? Just
the current job description of cops and police officers first
of all, just I uh, having people whose job it
is to help out. We've talked before about how this
was like a big revelation in like I think it
(21:42):
was Eugene, Oregon had this program that they did where like,
in addition to cops, they just had people who would
come and they weren't like even that specially trained, but
they would just come and like if somebody was in
a fight and like drunk, they would like drive them
home instead of like them driving, you know, they would
(22:03):
just like be a person who's there to help out.
I know someone who's a board writer, because many writers
are bored these days because a lot of them are
getting zaslobbed, And in his spare time, he's just like
I reach out to people like I just make it
known to all my friends that like I will do
(22:23):
something they've been putting off for them, Like I'll spend
three hours with them doing something that they're putting out,
like call somebody who you've been meaning to call about,
like a loan or you know, like just get some
shit handled that they haven't been able to get themselves
to do. And I just think that's like such an
(22:44):
underrated job, and instead we have like and it's been
proven to work. Rory Skobels on his podcast Crime lest
I was talking about I was listening to an old
episode where it had just been a burning Man about
how like there was a cop at burning Man who
approached him and he was like, oh fuck, like what
(23:06):
what is this going to be and the cop was
just like, hey, just so you know, there's like a
storm coming tomorrow, so I just want to make sure
that you're like prepared for that.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
That's what it should just be somebody there to help people,
like yeah, just at a job where it's like, hey,
I just couldn't help, but notice you seem to be
having a tough time.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Can I how can I help you out?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And instead we have cops that like connected to my underrated.
It feels like the personality profile that gets pulled into
being a cop is like they see the loud car
and they're like, not loud enough. I need some sirens
on that bitch, we you know, And and we know
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that's the type of per We know that it attracts
satis because we've seen them in action.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Have you you know this happened.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm sure this happens in other cities, but it doesn't
happen in all cities. So in Los Angeles, sometimes on
a freeway, sometimes the cop will like pull in front
of like somebody in Dance Star Swerve, start swerving.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like this weekend happened to me. This weekend, I was
at the front of a pack of cars that were
like we we had a like just a break in
traffic where it was just like free road ahead of us,
and I had, you know, driven. This was coming back
from like a fucking playdate. I was taking my kid
to those forty five minutes away, and it took me
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like an hour and fifteen to get there. And I
was like, oh my god, like finally, like you know,
it's like finally I'm rewarded with an open road. And
this cop just pulled in front and like started swalloming
from one side to the other. And you're supposed to
apparently give them thirty feet of clearance, and and it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Goes so slow.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It is it is truly to stop traffic. And because
they there might be something up ahead, there was nothing
up ahead. I was waiting to see a car crash
up ahead. There was nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Sometimes I know, like they say it's something up ahead,
it's not, or it'll be just they'll say they'll admit,
like it is just to control the flow of traffic.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I'm like, to be the cop to sit in
the car.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Do that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You have to be Hannibal elector you have to be
a terrible fucking you have to be a cycle like
I wouldn't want to pull that assignment as a cop
if it was with my life depending on it, because
the embarrassment I would feel at being such an asshole
two hundreds of people behind you, like it's too great,
(25:54):
Like I can't even fathom wanting to do I would
just they would be like Jackies, all right, you got
to go in the four or five.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You gotta you gotta do it. I'll be like, bruh, no,
I'm not like, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I did it. Yeah, I did it, y'all.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I did it. It was good. It was a good day.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And aunt, guess is not getting complaints the cops. The
cops aren't getting like people calling in being like, hey,
nobody was slowing down traffic on the four or five.
Well there was too much clear.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Clear nobody, man, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's it's also, I will say, too many people have
seen F one, like I have watched that Netflix F
one show, because when they do that, all the traffic
gets like bunched up behind them and it's still dry.
You know, people are still driving like forty. But it's
basically like the you know, when there's a flag on
in F one, cars are like maneuvering and like trying
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to get in front of each other, and it's like
all tightly packed like some of the shit that was
happening in that little you know group thirty feet behind
the slalom cop car, where it was much more dangerous
than whatever they were theoretically supposed to be stopping in
front of us.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Anyways, Yeah, let's just have people. Just having people whose
job it is to help out would be uh, would
be nice because not just because like yeah, in theory
that like works better and right now you can't get
much worse than like the personality or then like functionally
what it is that cops do. I definitely think the
(27:25):
helicopters in LA are also part of the loud car
thing where they're just going to above those people, Yeah,
coming through at like twenty feet above your rooftops.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, and then they have everybody worry too, like what's
going on? Yeah, y yeah, nothing, it just.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Feels like menacing and like something terrible is happening that
I feel like that is part of part of the idea.
But yeah, I just I think you get a different
type of person instead of getting the loud car people,
you're getting people who are like, yeah, I don't know.
I'm just trying here to help out. How do I
(28:05):
how do I get you where you need to be?
You know, two good rateds, two good raids across four
good rateds across the board. Let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back. So there
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was an attempted assassination at the White House correspondence dinner.
That's shots were fired. They caught the sailant on the spot.
He helpfully had a manifesto, of course, so weird that
he had written apparently like in the days, like while
(28:51):
he was staying at the hotel, he checked into the
hotel wrote a manifesto. His manifesto was like, man, these
secret service agents are not good at their job. I
feel like anybody could come in here and do whatever
they wanted. Obviously he was not correct about that, because
they did catch him fairly quickly. But yeah, so the
(29:12):
stuff we know, I just want to like go through
in terms of the narratives about the shooter versus what
we actually know about from the shooter's manifesto. Like I said,
he was surprised by the quote insane lack of security
at the hotel and that was because he was staying
at the hotel and wrote the manifesto while he was
(29:33):
there before the attack. Security footage shows very relaxed Secret
Service agents chatting with one another as he like runs
past and tries to rush the checkpoint again. That looking
like he's like visibility, visibility, I am wearing a cloaking device.
It doesn't like their immediately like WHOA, what the it does?
It does kind of have the energy of it, like
(29:55):
you know in a movie when there's like a old
lonely cop sitting at a speed trap with this thing
out and the car drives by like one hundred miles
per hour and like his hat spins around on his head.
It kind of has that energy to it. Yeah, but
some of the misinformation includes that he was a teacher.
(30:19):
He's not a teacher. He was a test prep tutor,
a graduate of Caltech in twenty seventeen with a degree
of mechanical engineering. Just so frequently it's engineering cal Tech,
very good school school. Yeah. Trump has claimed he was
anti Christian and has like kind of made that the
focus of his commentary about the guy. Trump said he
(30:42):
was a Christian believer and then he became an anti Christian,
and he had a lot of change. He was probably
a pretty sick guy, and he was. When you read
his manifesto, he hates Christians. He hates Christians a hatred,
a hatred that does not like. His manifesto does not
(31:04):
come across as anti Christian. In fact, he seems to
try to make an argument why his actions like are
still Christian. He offers multiple apologies and expresses a desire
to target only the Trump administration excluding Cash ptel. For
some reason, he's like and not my man Cash, He's good.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
His main motive seems to be Trump being Yeah, exactly,
that guy seems like a kill is somebody who likes
to party.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You seem seems like a guy you could have a
beer or two or fifteen with. His main motive seems
to be Trump being an alleged rapist pedophile, and that
the Trump administration has killed and abused people. Media and
security were not the targets. You shocked at the lack
of security around the hotel and wrote like if I
(31:52):
was an Iranian agent instead of an American citizen, I
could have brought a damn MA deus in here and
no one would have noticed shit. But in terms of
his Christianity, because it does feel like Trump is trying
to turn this into like a persecution of Christians thing of.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Because he's trying to get his base back fired up.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
The main thing that people from Caltech remembered about him,
he was pretty prominent at the Caltech Christian Fellowship, pretty
Christian and mellow. If I didn't see his face eating carpet,
I would have never believed it eating carpet. All right, man,
this is weird, man, this is weird. Yeah. If anything,
it seems like he saw Trump as the Antichrist, based
(32:36):
on social media posts. One was in response to Trump's
ai image of himself as Jesus, to which Alan wrote
on Blue Sky, there will be no rest or night
for those who worship the Beast and its image, or
for anyone who receives the mark of its name. Sounds
very Christian, sounds sounds like a super intense Christian. Yeah yeah, yeah.
(33:03):
So weird that he's interpreted that as being anti Christian.
I guess in some ways, maybe because he views himself
as Jesus, he's like, you must be anti Christian because
he was mad at Trump.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because you know, oh no, Jack.
He views himself as a Red crossworker, as a doctor,
as a hands with light coming out of his hands. Yes,
that's what he views himself as. Listen, man, I know,
like what the talk is online and I probably have a.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh yeah, okay, but there's.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Some great conspiracy there's a lot of fun conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Here's the crazy part.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Even if you don't care about the conspiracies or don't
believe the conspiracies, like and maybe this is bad of
me to say, but I don't to give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I'd like I was like, oh, somebody if it is
like if somebody really like shot him up or shot
him the blah blah blah. I'm just like I don't care.
Like and that's so crazy because like not even from
a perspective of like we just hate this president, right,
because obviously that's why most people was like, oh that's
why you don't care, And yeah, that could be true.
(34:27):
But like if I was alive when I was alive
when Reagan the assassination attempt on Reagan was but if
I was like, of age, do you.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Have some pretty you were like one year old?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, four year old Jack Keith was like, let me
he put cracking cocaine in a black community, thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Uh Like, just the fact that somebody was shooting at
the president would still be.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Enough of a news story.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
To care about just as a person because of the
way that our guard rails and things have set up
for you know, you don't kill the president, right, And
this is what the third one and I bear. The
first one was shocking. The first one was shocking. Yes,
the first one was wild. First one was shocking. I
remember I was playing baseball when it happened, and it
was shocking. And then you know the sadness that they missed.
(35:20):
But like the second my mom is actually calling me
take down.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was a but it was you keep that in.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Perfect You're underrated.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That is funny. Uh yeah, but it's so hard to
tell because there is a right.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You just don't know. It's just like, but to go
back to what we were saying, you care more.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
And so the second one and the third one, with
all these I'm just like, the level of discare, I
don't even know if that's a word that like the
general public has to the point.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Very careful immediately you just go to it was straight
stage staged, was trading immediately. Yeah, Katie, sorry. Katie Golden,
one of our writers this week, pointed out that just
like it was everyone, it's not just you, like everyone's
attitudes to the assassination, like left and right, including many
(36:25):
of the actual attendees. It's just like the whole country
has become just so casual about politically desentitized. Yes, but
it just became like a fun anecdote for people.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Like I don't even I don't even know if it's
like we're desensitized to just political violence in general. I'm
sure to that as part of it. I think it's
just we are desensitized to news. Yeah, like there's just
too much fucking news where it's just like we don't care,
like we don't care, like I I like, there's a
(37:02):
part of me that's just like yo, Like we could
have another nine eleven and it wouldn't be as big
as nine to eleven was.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
The sequel is never as big. Would have to take
it in different directions and.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
It would be eleven nine.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
That's right. But yeah, well, first of all, like Trump
isn't helping he his his response was, I wasn't worried.
I understand the life. We live in a crazy world.
It's easy for, you know, probably helpful for him to
be like, this has nothing to do with me. We
just the world's crazy, has nothing to do with me,
(37:39):
creating a more violent and incompetent security atmosphere. He also said,
I also saw a lot of very strong, physically strong,
really attractive law enforcement people come through those doors, and frankly,
it made me feel very safe.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Did you also see the part where he was just
like because he failed, and he was like, no, I
didn't fall, I didn't fall.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I just want to I say stop, I have to
see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's like, nigga, you fail.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
On the ground. Top like it. Also, it's not a
bad thing to be on the ground when there is
a shooting happening. That is self preservation. And he like
can't admit that he went to the ground. I mean
that's when we saw that in the first assassination attempt,
that he like clawed his way back up to like
(38:34):
be like fight, fight, because he like thinks it's weak
to be on the ground and be like covered.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Weak, especially after you especially after you pop a blood
capsule on your ears. We is we.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I think he read. I think he bladed it personally,
you know, he is a w W, a w W guy.
You know it does is intermittent and seemingly random horniness
a sign of dementia because I remember like that there
was at the end of H. W. Bush's life, he
was like grabbing women's butts and saying, you know who
(39:08):
my favorite magician is David Koppa. Feel so like Trump
has had pressers where he's like, okay, real talk, you
can talk about sex this time. Ask me any questions, like, sir,
you just started war with Iran? What the fuck are
you talking about? Yeah, But like for his initial response
to a law enforcement response to be this horny, it's
(39:31):
just a little weird. I don't know. Maybe it's the elderly.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
The elderly is freaking.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
They beat They are some freaks, and they have reached
a level of I don't care anymore. Yeah, and like yeah,
which you know I'm not there yet so I can't
speak to it.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
But it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
But also Trump is a rapist, so right now I
think he's more sort of rhetoric is exactly what's putting
him in danger. That and people stopping the ballroom. Dana
White's summary of it, It was fucking awesome. I literally
took every minute of it in. It was a pretty
(40:14):
crazy unique experience. Dana White, the UFC guy that was this,
he was at there and said it was fucking awesome.
I literally took every minute of it in. It was
a pretty crazy unique experience. And like this, you know,
this is the person who is helping Trump put literal
like gladiatorial combat on the lawn of the White House
(40:38):
for the two hundred and fiftieth, you know, July fourth celebration.
So it makes sense that he's just like, oh dude,
it was so sick. Did you see that? So tight?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We this is such a crazy time.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
I mean, I know we say that often, but like, yeah,
something bigger has to and likely will have, something.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Has to have. Just feel like such a such a
bad situation that like everybody is in. Billionaire investment banker
Lloyd blankfind tweeted or I get maybe this was a comment. No,
I think it was on axia. He said on the
positive side, was exciting. No one was killed and ended early.
(41:18):
I noted a new litmus for status among the government elite.
Whether you are whisked away by Secret Service or left
to fend. So the billionaire class looking on attempts to
kill them with amusement and as a status symbol. Is
also where we're at.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
It's crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
There is one guy who I do want to just
specifically shout out, Michael Glantz, who is a top agent
at Creative Artist Agency. And like during the live coverage
from CNN, you see like everybody's under their tables and hiding,
and there's this one older guy just eating his appetizer
(41:59):
at his table, just like a total g He said,
I'm a New Yorker. We live with sirens and activity
happening all the time. I wasn't scared. There are hundreds
of Secret Service agents hurtling themselves over tables and chairs,
and I wanted to watch. First of all, I have
a bad back. I couldn't get on the floor, and
if I did get on the floor, they'd have to
(42:20):
bring in people to get me off the floor. And
number two, I'm a hygiene freak. There was no freaking
way I was getting in my new tucks on the
dirty Hilton floor not happening.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
He was also he was also like, shit, they're not
aiming at me.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
And third, they're not trying to shoot me. They don't
give a fuck about me. Yeah, and by hiding, I
make myself look like I'm one of the people who
they are trying to shoot, rather than just sitting there
and calmly eating my barata salad.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like if I was a shooter, If I was a
shooter and this man maybe speaks to my psyche. If
I walked in and I'm seeing everybody and I'm like,
I brother, eat and I can't pop him like I
would like. It's just I just got more decency than that.
Just give you a little way. Enjoy enjoy your pasta, brother,
enjoy your pasta. I'm gonna take the bullets over here.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Amazing work by him, But yeah, generally that is how
a lot of like Dance Scaveno, White House Deputy chief
of Staff Dance Cavino tried to start a USA chant
and apparently nobody was into it, but uh, these these are.
It's because it is the whole thing with fascism is
(43:39):
like creating violence and chaos and then trying to turn
that into feelings of youtriotism and political action and make
it make it feel like something is happening. Because something
always is, and so it's just this like exciting, violent thing,
(44:01):
but it's also, you know, a terrible way to run
run a civilization.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
It's like if if if this ship wasn't so dangerous
and so life altering and fascist, this would be the
greatest like parody writing that you could possibly ever like get.
(44:30):
That's how crazy fascism is a parody. In many ways,
it's like a parody. It is just like a fucking parody.
This is this, This stuff is so unbelievable that it's
past funny.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
And back to sad. Whereas it's crazy like a.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
USA chant after somebody who's trying to shoot up a
correspond what what are.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
We talking about? At the assassin, everybody said, we got
the assassins do the way. Also, by the way, like
this was the first time that they've been like we
got ladies and gentlemen, we got him, and they haven't
had to like come out two hours later and been like,
psych actually we didn't, we don't got it.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Then for everybody to be like, let's do a US.
I'm not entirely confident that cash Ptel has this one
under control, just because he says he does.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, well at first I saw at first I saw
they shot him and killed them and damn peoples, like
he's not dead, right, Yeah, So, like you.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Know, news comes out wrong all the time.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
M hm, I don't know, especially in this White House.
Hey man, let me get you with a hashtag free
What was his name, Cody Allen?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Free Cody Allen.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
As yeah hash actually cold.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Cole Thomas Allen. They got him throw in the middle
name because.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Free ct A, free ct A, my brother, my brothers,
and in Chicago that's just free public transportation.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
But for the rest of the country, yeah, free ct A.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, you can do that with plausible deniability, just be
like free CTA. I was just saying, let's take a
quick break, we'll be back, and we're back, and just
(46:27):
other other aftermath of the of the assassination. We're gonna
talk again. We're going to get into the kind of
fun conspiracy theories that have immediately cropped up. People are
like fucking speed running the JFK assassination conspiracy theories online
with this one. But there's some really fun ones, including
(46:47):
involving time travel, that we'll get into uh in tomorrow's episode.
But just other one other thing that happened in the
aftermath is he decided to follow the attempted attack at
the Correspondence Center by attacking correspondents. So he did an
interview with sixty Minutes that when he was asked about
(47:09):
the attempted shooter's manifesto, which stated that he was no
longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and trader to
coat my hands with his crimes, Trump lashed out at
the interview and interviewer Nora O'Donnell. Her response was amazing.
She said, Oh, do you think he was referring to you?
Because he said I didn't say it was you. Why
(47:31):
are you getting so mad?
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
You you think he's talking about you? Wow?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Why is that? Mister Trump? He's so yeah, you're just
a horrible.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Excuse me, excuse me, he kept saying after she said that.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
I know it's can I ask, and this is a
legitimate question. I know it's against the law too, like
hit the president, like to touns him.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I know that, yes, is it against an all to
cuss his ass out?
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I don't think so, unless you unless it shows like
violent intent or something.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay, because I'm just like because I know, like they
have to worry about their jobs. And she's like, if
I go off, I'll get fired, and.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
And he'll CBS News at this point, so you got
to take it.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
But like he'd be saying ship to like so many
and like, I'm just surprised that somebody has it because
like because the type of person that Trump is, like
if you push back, if he's not, he will he
will back down on a verbal like on like verbal
war like he'll he'll tweet and he has that he'll
(48:45):
he tries to assert the power and say but if
somebody was like, nigga, fuck you, but.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
He would not say nothing. He wouldn't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
He would immediately his dick would enter into his body
and he would immediately like feetle love like.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
And I'm just so surprised that somebody hasn't done that yet.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Hasn't just said fuck you, because like because the ship, like,
don't just don't call.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Me disgusting and horrible, this ship to my face, bro, Yeah,
this is the exchange to my face.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
So she read that. Crazy, She read that, and he said,
I was waiting for you to read that because I
knew you would because you're horrible people. Horrible people, yeah,
he did write that I'm not a rapist. I didn't
rape anybody. And she said, oh, do you think he
was referring to you? And he said, I'm not a pedophile.
Excuse me, excuse me, I'm not a pedophile. You read
(49:40):
that cut from some sick person. I got associated with
stuff that has nothing to do with me. Like that's
what he starts spinning out and sounding like, you know
democrats who got caught doing something. Yeah, yeah, I got
associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me.
She's like, I'm just telling you what he said, and
then you're the one who's jumping all these conclusions.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Interesting hm hmm. Seems like they started name calling or
more right, and then like they'd just be going on
with the next question, like he just didn't. Man, I
just couldn't, Man, I just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, they just move on. It's like that interviewer
when Obama was like aliens are real, Uh, they're just
not at Area fifty one, and he was like, Okay,
speed round onto the next one. What's your favorite kind
of pizza? And it's just like everyone's like, yo, your
job as an interviewer is terrible, and be like wait,
(50:29):
what did you s. People ain't got no integrity in
the game. Boy, if it was, if it was me
and you Jack, we would be on there like on
b hold on brou no no, no, tell heart tell.
I heard this episode about to be two hours. Let's
talk about this. Yeah, the light just let's talk about
that lighting round has just turned into the record scratch
(50:50):
and then Frost Nixon round. Seriously, man, all right, uh,
finally let's talk about something that's not the assassination attempt.
These two US lawmakers, Pennsylvanian guy Risian Taller and Ohio's
Max L. Miller, are sponsoring a bill to give US
(51:12):
citizens who serve the IDF who serve in the IDF
military protections and benefits because they winning the award for
not reading the room. They're like, you know who we
need to look out for. But basically making it so
that citizens who voluntarily join the IDF qualify as veterans
(51:35):
under US law. This is not something done for any
other foreign military. No such legislation has ever been proposed
for voluntary service for places, for instance, like Ukraine. But
of course you know they both of their number one
campaign contributors are apak. Of course that will explain that
(52:00):
it's also the bill would give them.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
The main benefits would be, you know, uh, limits on
interest rate eviction and floor foreclosure protections, legal protections, uh,
and protections from being fired and from employment discrimination, which
seems particularly Yeah, seems particularly interesting given how public sentiment
(52:27):
has turned against the Israeli military. We got to make it.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
We got to make sure somebody can retaliate against proactive
defensive measures here. So anyways, you know what it don't
say it, don't say protection from these hands?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
What the are you talking about? All right? T is
such a pleasure having you. Thanks for joining us so early.
So it is this this episode is particularly a difficult
one because we recorded so early in the morning. So
so thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
A beautiful time.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
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You got to look for it.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
It's the only one you go to.
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Speaker 3 (53:13):
And you can also find me at Jackie's Neil over
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Speaker 1 (53:17):
All right, that's going to do it for us. This afternoon,
we are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of
the show. We're going to talk about the assassination plot, conspiracies,
and we are going to talk about Michael. I got
some egg on my face. I didn't think it was
going to be as massive as it turned out to be.
So we're going to talk about all that anymore tomorrow.
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Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
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Did you see the video of the guy running past
the security checkpoint. I haven't seen ship. I haven't looked
into it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I haven't seen the video of him running past.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Now it looks like he's looks like he's repeating invisibility spell,
invisibility visibility spell unders like it's like, what are you doing?
Why do you think that's gonna work? Oh my god,
I don't know how to got.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't know how they got that.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You can't see me, you can't see me, you can't
see me.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my god, Like damn, dam Dan then and Dan
then and damn. He's got the invincibility star. But it
is funny to like think, so, how does one go
about staging this conspiracy, staging this assassination attempt? Did they were? They?
Like you did? The mentalist who they had performing, because
(00:58):
that that's where the Correspondents Center is. Instead of having
a comedian who's doing satire, they have a mentalist who's
doing magic tricks. Maybe he convinced him that he was
invincible and invisible.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Mm hmmm, I like that. I like that theory. Or
he convinced him that he was just at a D
and D convention.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
His gun wasn't a gun.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
His gun was like a wand and that's what he was,
That's what he thought he was shooting.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It was all very sexually charged, like first of all
Trump was like and then a bunch of very good
looking secret Service agents whisked me away. And then they
also ripped his shirt off. It's like, real, why are
you guys? Yeah, he didn't have a shirt on when
they arrested him on the carpetl try. They pushed him
(01:49):
up against the wall started sloppy kissing him on the mouth.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this weak trend edition
of de Nally's Geist Vaguely Intrigued. It is my co host.
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My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm throwed to be joined
by today is very special guest co host Jackie Snell. Hello,
little little Missus doubtfire. I'm getting missus doubtfire vibes. Hello,
Chopped and screwed, Missus doubtfire.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Missus doutfire with a little toilet with a little Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Basically, Tyler Perry saw Missus doubtfire. We are part where
it was revealed that it was the dad. What if
it was just missus doubtfire all the way down. What
do we cut?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What have we cut? The negligent dad part out? Just
have him and dry.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's the bummer. That is the part that my kids
did not like. When I watched Missus Doutfire, Get back
to the silly guy doing silly things.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Get back to Robin Williams. Who's this old British lady?
I love Missus tout Fire? There is stul fire rips.
But it also has so many references that completely went
over my kids' heads. But also they thought they thought
were funny, completely out of contact, like they were old
for me, Like a lot of the like impressions he's
(03:31):
doing when he's like, oh and I'm going to be
and are like references from like sixties and seventies television.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But but if you want to feel even older, if
a movie like that were to come out now, all
of those references would be from two thousand, right, that's
all right, that's relatively the timeframe for like when that
movie came out. To the things he was referencing, Yeah,
so that would be us, that would be us referencing like, yeah,
(04:00):
all the nineteen nineties into the nineties movies.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I'm over here referencing Jaws, which is like fifty right
now we're here, We're referencing Missus Doufi exactly. Oh shit,
all right, Uh, this is the episode where we tell
you was trending over the weekend, what is trending right now?
(04:24):
And we also let you get to know us a
little bit better by telling you some things we think
are overrated underrated. We're going to really have to stretch
this over underrated segment because really slow news week, news weekend. No,
that's not true that I was crazy, man, it was crazy.
We I guess we can say that up top, there's wow,
(04:45):
a very spectacular scary White House Correspondence dinner that everybody
was like we that was fun, very very strange times. Yeah,
we'll got all that. But first, chiquies, we do like
to let our listeners know a little bit about ourselves
(05:06):
by telling them something we think it is overrated, underrated.
Do you have anything that you think is broadly underrated?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know what I think is underrated? What's that I
think that do not disturb button on your phone? It's
underctually underrated, at least to me. I know some people
they use it a lot, but I don't use it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't use it.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I like, ain't nobody calling me like that in the
middle of the night. And the people that do that
have in the past I've just roundly ignored and they stopped.
So I ain't getting messages like that, and I don't
keep notifications on. But every once in a while a
call comes through, which is what happened today, and it
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was okay, it was a fine call, but it did
wake me up in the middle of the night, and
then I couldn't go back to sleep, and I started
operating off of I'm operating off of like two hours
of sleep.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, so you're not disturbed. Do not disturb mode before
bed is what's underrated.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Is what's underrated. I think like that's something that your
phone should just do right, even notices your phone is down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, where's this AI that's supposed to be like learning
air technology, learning our lives and being like, oh, I'll
do I'll do them a little solid them.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
A little solid and if somebody really needs you, if
somebody really needs you, and I think this should be
the case no matter what, if somebody really needs you,
whether your phone is on do not disturb or even
silent yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If they call you three straight times, it goes through.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, it goes through, even if it's on silent, because
that that obviously signals like, this is an emergency pick
up and if it's not an emergency, it should be
written in the constitution.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I can cuss you the fuck out. Yes, if you're
calling me, you call me.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Three straight times and it's not an emergency, I can
cuts you the fuck out and there's nothing you can
do about it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You got to take it on the chan.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You got to three straight times, and then when you
finally pick up, they just say you up.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm up. I wasn't trying to tell yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah. Man. That's that's very frustrating to get woken up
like that. Usually the thing that happens that will wake
me up as like a butt dial from one of
my parents or something at five in the morning because
they're on the East coast. But but I feel like
they should come on guys, let's let's learn. Let's learn
when to let us through a good one.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Even on D and D even though do not disturb,
you can set a little settings and be like, but
if this person calls you at that through this person
calls you can let that through, which kind of defeats
the purpose of do not deserve. It's like people are
saying like, oh, well, if it's somebody who if they call,
you know, as an emergency, then you should pick it up.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But sometimes those people call and is not an emergency
because my mom, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Kind of tough for us. Takes a pressure off of us.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just three calls in a row, three calls in a row.
I think there might be something like that, but yeah,
it might be able to do, but not on silent.
If you keep your phone on silent, it's just gonna
stay silent. He calls in a row. And if the
person can't make three calls in a row, they were
about to die anyway.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There was nothing that one call and you picking up.
What's gonna do?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
There should be a questionnaire that they have to fill
out to get it off of silent, you know, where
it's just like they've actually thought it through enough that
they thought they're.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Doing calling for it.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, and I can do that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What are you calling for?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And then you and you say it'll be like we've
deemed this is unnecessary. This person's phone is on silent,
they will not be picking up, you know, like with.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Some healthcare providers are like, please hang up and dial
nine one one if you're having a medical emergency, and
you know, yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Good advice too.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
If it's like an emergency, you're like, we'll call nine
one one and then will inform the person.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah, all right, So do not disturb? Yeah, I
kind of. I sometimes use it during the day and
then forget to turn it off and then I have
like forty emails because I do not disturb for forty minutes.
So uh yeah, I just kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, the dude, my underrated thing is do not disturb
needs to like is it is underrated?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Better?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It also needs to work better.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We need a better do not disturb guys.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If I at one pm and then it's still on
at ten pm, take it off for an hour?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah yeah, like a you mean to have this?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I think you left the zone.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, Like just generally, I think mine last week was
about like how iPhones or like AirPods will just randomly
connect to like any anybody who Like when my wife's
phone enters the connect, it will just connect to her
phone randomly, like if she's on a call. It's like,
you probably want to be talking to your wife's friend
(09:52):
who's on a call with your wife in the parking lot.
It's just yeah, just some common sense, just some common
sense features in our technology that just make it work
for us stupid people. You guys, all right? My underrated
is what cars and like how people drive can tell
(10:13):
you about people. I was reminded I had a friend's
mom who seemed very like normal. This was back before
you know, we could drive. But when she would drive
us around, every time she would come to a stop,
it was like a harrowing edge of your seat uh cata,
(10:33):
Like she would stop like two inches from the person's
bumper and I'm sure of you, like very last second
in a way that made me feel like she was
maybe like fucking with me. And she ended up being
Elizabeth Holmes from there. No, she just ended up being
a slightly fucked up person that you know, I got
(10:54):
to know as I got to know him and his
family a little bit longer. But I was reminded of
that when I heard about the study that I heard
about on the dough Boys podcast. As I hear about
all my favorite studies, Nick Wiger mentioned this study that
said that people who have loud cars. You assume are
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just going to be narcissistic and like ignorant and just
be like, oh, look at me, look at me. But
they did a study. This scientist in Canada did a
study and found that the personality profile of those people
is that they are sadists, like they want to inflict harm.
(11:36):
They know exactly what they're doing. This is from a
CBC article about the study. When she got the results,
she expected to see strong correlations between someone who prefers
a look at me exhaust system and narcissism, but that
wasn't the case. We found that it was sadism and
psychopathy was predicting who wants to modify their mufflers, who
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feels more connected to their vehicle, and they think loud
cars are really cool. It seems to be this callous
disregard for other people's feelings and their reactions. That's the
psychopathy coming out. And it's also they probably get a
kick out of enjoying watching people get startled, So which
this is worse, right, Yeah, yeah, that's worse. Yeah, I
(12:17):
just look at me. It's like, look a look at
how uncomfortable, Like they know they know how loud it is.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, somebody in my mom's place. Every morning at like
six in the morning or something, some dude like who
has a motorcycle will like rev up his motorcycle every morning,
like and like just right outside of people's windows, just
reving up his motorcycle and then like doing aro and
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then turns his music up to one hundred percent so
as loud as hell, yes, and then like drives off
as loud as he can.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I'm just like, there's no need to do that.
There's no he's he does it every morning.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
He's like they've complained to the building manager about it,
and like the building manager he still does it. And
I'm just like, this is like this is a person.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
On par with like a murderer.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, right, Like it's I think it's early stages. I
think it's in the same like a personality family as
like people like it should it should be regarded the
way that we regard like people who like are capturing
animals and like fucking torturing animal.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's like, oh damn all right, yeah, like you it
makes sense, like they get a little kick out of it.
It's like it's not that they're aloof or even so
much that they're just being I mean, they are assholes,
but it's deeper than that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
They like enjoy being asshole.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, which I don't know. That's definitely not I
had always taken it as like some form of like
emasculated person who is just like look at me. But
it's actually they know how much you hate it. Is
kind of the finding or the what the study suggests
that like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
That that's that's because the do I'm talking about knows
how much everybody hates it because he hasn't complained about told,
he's been told.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
People's not an accident.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
He still does. Yeah, damn, yeamn. This is a good
this is a good one.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
There's also this study so that this is one of
these things that back back in the cracked days, like
there was this scientific study that never seemed quite right
to me. So they said that like one of the
biggest correlations between aggressive like asshole drivers, uh, and like
it's it's not any sort of car, it's actually that
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they have lots of bumper stickers. And the theory that
they had is that like if you have bumper stickers,
you more closely identify with their cars as like an
extension of their body and like they're thinking of it
as like my body is my but I feel like
everybody once you get in a car, like your car
is sort of anx, like becomes an extension of your body.
That's just like how driving work. I think like this
(14:56):
made me think. I think those people just like are
driving back on purpose and like driving aggressively on purpose
to spike people like they're sadistic, and then they want
you to like look at them and read their views
and the yeah, yeah, they're like, yeah, you don't like
my driving each ship.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I've never had have I ever had a bumper I
think I've had one bumper sticker before and it was
like on my first ever car.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So I'm sure there's like, I'm sure there's uh, you know,
exceptions to this rule. I'm sure that people who like
having loud cars for other reasons, but yeah, or like
a couple of bumper stickers here and there. But it's
just like as a tendency, I do feel like, oh,
the the idea that people are sadistic is hard for
(15:44):
me to picture, but I think I think it's out
there more often than we realize, you know, especially especially
over the roads. I will say, also, not a terminal diagnosis.
I've been a bad asshole is driver at various points
in my life. You can change, But I would say
that a change didn't come from me like learning the
laws better or being like more afraid of getting a ticket.
(16:07):
It just came from me becoming a better person over
the course of like being an adult, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Or just you know, chilling now and being like, you
know what, I got to keep my blood pressure and
most of it is just you know, most most people
like grow up when they realize they got to keep
their blood pressure down. That's right, Like, man, this blood
pressure is getting looked too high. Let me calm down here.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's not helping, it's not anybody. This is just creating
cast what it's something you think is overrated.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
This is going to be a crazy one because let
me tell you, I love the thing that I'm about
to say, because I think it is one of I
think it is one of the best deals, like a
legitimate deal, like unlike most things.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That we get. And it is AMC A list. Okay,
I think the AMC A list is a list.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm an a lister. I'm an at every time. At
the beginning of the AMC movies. They were like, we
want to think our a lists. I raised my hand
and waved two people. I turned to the audience, like
they're thanking me. They thanking me. I think it's the
best deal. Four movies a week. So basically, what's that?
Sixteen movies a month for thirty dollars and you can
(17:21):
see any format, So like I just get I just
go one movie on Imax or Adobe screen or whatever.
It's twenty six bucks in LA. Like by the time
I see my second movie, I've paid for the next month.
I pay for the next month. You see three movies
in a month, you've paid for two and a half
three months of that. So it's I think it's the
(17:42):
best deal. Here's why it's overrating.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I'm on the edge of my seat here.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I miss being able to like steal movies.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I miss it has made it has made us degenerates
sanitized because we it makes no sense for us to
like buy a ticket to one movie and then go
to a movie on that one or like or just
like you know what, I'm gonna buy this ticket and
I'm gonna just go sit in the seat that cause
(18:14):
you can see on the thing now and you can log.
It has made it so easy to go to the theater,
like you know, legally and that and I miss I'm
on every Christmas. I haven't done this in three years now.
I used to every Christmas go buy a movie in
the morning and then see a second movie, and then
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by the time I got out, it was like three
four o'clock in the afternoon, it was time for some
Christmas celebrations, Christmas dinners. Like now I don't even do
that because like I don't even feel I'm too lazy
to go and like click two movies in my AMC
because that's a plan. That's a plan I gotta you know,
instead of like all right, we're movie about to start now,
and then I just walk into like you know, uh
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ready or not to or something you know like that.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Just miss like opening the Dolby opening, coming out of
this theater. Let's see what this one's used?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So good to steal an IMAX movie. It used to
feel so good. I don't get that rush anymore. I
don't get that rush because of the savings and the
ease of the A list and this and this over
and like that that ease is overrated. I think every
once in a while what I'm really saying is we
need a little bit of rush sometimes. And that's a
low level crime. That's a crime that is not hurting anyone.
(19:32):
Like and I know, and I'm in the movie business,
and I know people are like, woa if you pay
for it, nah, man, that's was gonna be empty anyway.
It's not hurting anybody. Man, I'm probably helping the actual workers,
the a MC workers because I'm gonna get a little
bit more popcorn, I'm get a little bit more drink.
I'm gonna pay for a little bit more something something like.
(19:52):
It's a low it's a low lift crime. And I
miss I miss having low lift crimes to like keep
me afloat to do worse things in life.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's what we need. People need to be able to.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That was keeping That was keeping you away from worse,
giving me away from worse crimes, like you've been on
a spree.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And now yeah, every would listen.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You can't be responsible for what's happening.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't bemember they're going the wrong guy this weekend.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The blur that blur in that video telling you shout
out wish Master. That was the first movie that Brian
the editor stole, oh.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Good one, good one class we steal the movies no more,
And I still would if I could, but it makes
no sense like it It would be dumb for me
to steal a movie now, but that's mine mine.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Last time I went to the movies, I noticed that
they did not have the names and times of the
movies outside of the theater like they you know, they
used to. They have those signs that are you know,
electric signs that they can write the name and time
of the movie. And I I had to wonder, first
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of all, is it just like something's broken or are
they are they just like no, we were not going
to tell them because too many people are just like
going in timing it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Out, which makes so many people are all right, it
was over my overrated.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Is it kind of connected to our first one? Just
the current job description of cops and police officers first
of all, just I uh, having people whose job it
is to help out. We've talked before about how this
was like a big revelation in like I think it
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was Eugene, Oregon had this program that they did where like,
in addition to cops, they just had people who would
come and they weren't like even that specially trained, but
they would just come and like if somebody was in
a fight and like drunk, they would like drive them
home instead of like them driving, you know, they would
(22:03):
just like be a person who's there to help out.
I know someone who's a board writer, because many writers
are bored these days because a lot of them are
getting zaslobbed, And in his spare time, he's just like
I reach out to people like I just make it
known to all my friends that like I will do
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something they've been putting off for them, Like I'll spend
three hours with them doing something that they're putting out,
like call somebody who you've been meaning to call about,
like a loan or you know, like just get some
shit handled that they haven't been able to get themselves
to do. And I just think that's like such an
(22:44):
underrated job, and instead we have like and it's been
proven to work. Rory Skobels on his podcast Crime lest
I was talking about I was listening to an old
episode where it had just been a burning Man about
how like there was a cop at burning Man who
approached him and he was like, oh fuck, like what
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what is this going to be and the cop was
just like, hey, just so you know, there's like a
storm coming tomorrow, so I just want to make sure
that you're like prepared for that.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
That's what it should just be somebody there to help people,
like yeah, just at a job where it's like, hey,
I just couldn't help, but notice you seem to be
having a tough time.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Can I how can I help you out?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And instead we have cops that like connected to my underrated.
It feels like the personality profile that gets pulled into
being a cop is like they see the loud car
and they're like, not loud enough. I need some sirens
on that bitch, we you know, And and we know
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that's the type of per We know that it attracts
satis because we've seen them in action.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Have you you know this happened.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm sure this happens in other cities, but it doesn't
happen in all cities. So in Los Angeles, sometimes on
a freeway, sometimes the cop will like pull in front
of like somebody in Dance Star Swerve, start swerving.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like this weekend happened to me. This weekend, I was
at the front of a pack of cars that were
like we we had a like just a break in
traffic where it was just like free road ahead of us,
and I had, you know, driven. This was coming back
from like a fucking playdate. I was taking my kid
to those forty five minutes away, and it took me
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like an hour and fifteen to get there. And I
was like, oh my god, like finally, like you know,
it's like finally I'm rewarded with an open road. And
this cop just pulled in front and like started swalloming
from one side to the other. And you're supposed to
apparently give them thirty feet of clearance, and and it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Goes so slow.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It is it is truly to stop traffic. And because
they there might be something up ahead, there was nothing
up ahead. I was waiting to see a car crash
up ahead. There was nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Sometimes I know, like they say it's something up ahead,
it's not, or it'll be just they'll say they'll admit,
like it is just to control the flow of traffic.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I'm like, to be the cop to sit in
the car.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Do that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You have to be Hannibal elector you have to be
a terrible fucking you have to be a cycle like
I wouldn't want to pull that assignment as a cop
if it was with my life depending on it, because
the embarrassment I would feel at being such an asshole
two hundreds of people behind you, like it's too great,
(25:54):
Like I can't even fathom wanting to do I would
just they would be like Jackies, all right, you got
to go in the four or five.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You gotta you gotta do it. I'll be like, bruh, no,
I'm not like, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I did it. Yeah, I did it, y'all.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I did it. It was good. It was a good day.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And aunt, guess is not getting complaints the cops. The
cops aren't getting like people calling in being like, hey,
nobody was slowing down traffic on the four or five.
Well there was too much clear.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Clear nobody, man, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's it's also, I will say, too many people have
seen F one, like I have watched that Netflix F
one show, because when they do that, all the traffic
gets like bunched up behind them and it's still dry.
You know, people are still driving like forty. But it's
basically like the you know, when there's a flag on
in F one, cars are like maneuvering and like trying
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to get in front of each other, and it's like
all tightly packed like some of the shit that was
happening in that little you know group thirty feet behind
the slalom cop car, where it was much more dangerous
than whatever they were theoretically supposed to be stopping in
front of us.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Anyways, Yeah, let's just have people. Just having people whose
job it is to help out would be uh, would
be nice because not just because like yeah, in theory
that like works better and right now you can't get
much worse than like the personality or then like functionally
what it is that cops do. I definitely think the
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helicopters in LA are also part of the loud car
thing where they're just going to above those people, Yeah,
coming through at like twenty feet above your rooftops.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, and then they have everybody worry too, like what's
going on? Yeah, y yeah, nothing, it just.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Feels like menacing and like something terrible is happening that
I feel like that is part of part of the idea.
But yeah, I just I think you get a different
type of person instead of getting the loud car people,
you're getting people who are like, yeah, I don't know.
I'm just trying here to help out. How do I
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how do I get you where you need to be?
You know, two good rateds, two good raids across four
good rateds across the board. Let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back. So there
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was an attempted assassination at the White House correspondence dinner.
That's shots were fired. They caught the sailant on the spot.
He helpfully had a manifesto, of course, so weird that
he had written apparently like in the days, like while
(28:51):
he was staying at the hotel, he checked into the
hotel wrote a manifesto. His manifesto was like, man, these
secret service agents are not good at their job. I
feel like anybody could come in here and do whatever
they wanted. Obviously he was not correct about that, because
they did catch him fairly quickly. But yeah, so the
(29:12):
stuff we know, I just want to like go through
in terms of the narratives about the shooter versus what
we actually know about from the shooter's manifesto. Like I said,
he was surprised by the quote insane lack of security
at the hotel and that was because he was staying
at the hotel and wrote the manifesto while he was
(29:33):
there before the attack. Security footage shows very relaxed Secret
Service agents chatting with one another as he like runs
past and tries to rush the checkpoint again. That looking
like he's like visibility, visibility, I am wearing a cloaking device.
It doesn't like their immediately like WHOA, what the it does?
It does kind of have the energy of it, like
(29:55):
you know in a movie when there's like a old
lonely cop sitting at a speed trap with this thing
out and the car drives by like one hundred miles
per hour and like his hat spins around on his head.
It kind of has that energy to it. Yeah, but
some of the misinformation includes that he was a teacher.
(30:19):
He's not a teacher. He was a test prep tutor,
a graduate of Caltech in twenty seventeen with a degree
of mechanical engineering. Just so frequently it's engineering cal Tech,
very good school school. Yeah. Trump has claimed he was
anti Christian and has like kind of made that the
focus of his commentary about the guy. Trump said he
(30:42):
was a Christian believer and then he became an anti Christian,
and he had a lot of change. He was probably
a pretty sick guy, and he was. When you read
his manifesto, he hates Christians. He hates Christians a hatred,
a hatred that does not like. His manifesto does not
(31:04):
come across as anti Christian. In fact, he seems to
try to make an argument why his actions like are
still Christian. He offers multiple apologies and expresses a desire
to target only the Trump administration excluding Cash ptel. For
some reason, he's like and not my man Cash, He's good.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
His main motive seems to be Trump being Yeah, exactly,
that guy seems like a kill is somebody who likes
to party.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You seem seems like a guy you could have a
beer or two or fifteen with. His main motive seems
to be Trump being an alleged rapist pedophile, and that
the Trump administration has killed and abused people. Media and
security were not the targets. You shocked at the lack
of security around the hotel and wrote like if I
(31:52):
was an Iranian agent instead of an American citizen, I
could have brought a damn MA deus in here and
no one would have noticed shit. But in terms of
his Christianity, because it does feel like Trump is trying
to turn this into like a persecution of Christians thing of.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Because he's trying to get his base back fired up.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
The main thing that people from Caltech remembered about him,
he was pretty prominent at the Caltech Christian Fellowship, pretty
Christian and mellow. If I didn't see his face eating carpet,
I would have never believed it eating carpet. All right, man,
this is weird, man, this is weird. Yeah. If anything,
it seems like he saw Trump as the Antichrist, based
(32:36):
on social media posts. One was in response to Trump's
ai image of himself as Jesus, to which Alan wrote
on Blue Sky, there will be no rest or night
for those who worship the Beast and its image, or
for anyone who receives the mark of its name. Sounds
very Christian, sounds sounds like a super intense Christian. Yeah yeah, yeah.
(33:03):
So weird that he's interpreted that as being anti Christian.
I guess in some ways, maybe because he views himself
as Jesus, he's like, you must be anti Christian because
he was mad at Trump.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because you know, oh no, Jack.
He views himself as a Red crossworker, as a doctor,
as a hands with light coming out of his hands. Yes,
that's what he views himself as. Listen, man, I know,
like what the talk is online and I probably have a.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh yeah, okay, but there's.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Some great conspiracy there's a lot of fun conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Here's the crazy part.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Even if you don't care about the conspiracies or don't
believe the conspiracies, like and maybe this is bad of
me to say, but I don't to give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I'd like I was like, oh, somebody if it is
like if somebody really like shot him up or shot
him the blah blah blah. I'm just like I don't care.
Like and that's so crazy because like not even from
a perspective of like we just hate this president, right,
because obviously that's why most people was like, oh that's
why you don't care, And yeah, that could be true.
(34:27):
But like if I was alive when I was alive
when Reagan the assassination attempt on Reagan was but if
I was like, of age, do you.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Have some pretty you were like one year old?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, four year old Jack Keith was like, let me
he put cracking cocaine in a black community, thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Uh Like, just the fact that somebody was shooting at
the president would still be.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Enough of a news story.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
To care about just as a person because of the
way that our guard rails and things have set up
for you know, you don't kill the president, right, And
this is what the third one and I bear. The
first one was shocking. The first one was shocking. Yes,
the first one was wild. First one was shocking. I
remember I was playing baseball when it happened, and it
was shocking. And then you know the sadness that they missed.
(35:20):
But like the second my mom is actually calling me
take down.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was a but it was you keep that in.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Perfect You're underrated.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That is funny. Uh yeah, but it's so hard to
tell because there is a right.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You just don't know. It's just like, but to go
back to what we were saying, you care more.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
And so the second one and the third one, with
all these I'm just like, the level of discare, I
don't even know if that's a word that like the
general public has to the point.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Very careful immediately you just go to it was straight
stage staged, was trading immediately. Yeah, Katie, sorry. Katie Golden,
one of our writers this week, pointed out that just
like it was everyone, it's not just you, like everyone's
attitudes to the assassination, like left and right, including many
(36:25):
of the actual attendees. It's just like the whole country
has become just so casual about politically desentitized. Yes, but
it just became like a fun anecdote for people.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Like I don't even I don't even know if it's
like we're desensitized to just political violence in general. I'm
sure to that as part of it. I think it's
just we are desensitized to news. Yeah, like there's just
too much fucking news where it's just like we don't care,
like we don't care, like I I like, there's a
(37:02):
part of me that's just like yo, Like we could
have another nine eleven and it wouldn't be as big
as nine to eleven was.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
The sequel is never as big. Would have to take
it in different directions and.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
It would be eleven nine.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
That's right. But yeah, well, first of all, like Trump
isn't helping he his his response was, I wasn't worried.
I understand the life. We live in a crazy world.
It's easy for, you know, probably helpful for him to
be like, this has nothing to do with me. We
just the world's crazy, has nothing to do with me,
(37:39):
creating a more violent and incompetent security atmosphere. He also said,
I also saw a lot of very strong, physically strong,
really attractive law enforcement people come through those doors, and frankly,
it made me feel very safe.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Did you also see the part where he was just
like because he failed, and he was like, no, I
didn't fall, I didn't fall.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I just want to I say stop, I have to
see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's like, nigga, you fail.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
On the ground. Top like it. Also, it's not a
bad thing to be on the ground when there is
a shooting happening. That is self preservation. And he like
can't admit that he went to the ground. I mean
that's when we saw that in the first assassination attempt,
that he like clawed his way back up to like
(38:34):
be like fight, fight, because he like thinks it's weak
to be on the ground and be like covered.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Weak, especially after you especially after you pop a blood
capsule on your ears. We is we.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I think he read. I think he bladed it personally,
you know, he is a w W, a w W guy.
You know it does is intermittent and seemingly random horniness
a sign of dementia because I remember like that there
was at the end of H. W. Bush's life, he
was like grabbing women's butts and saying, you know who
(39:08):
my favorite magician is David Koppa. Feel so like Trump
has had pressers where he's like, okay, real talk, you
can talk about sex this time. Ask me any questions, like, sir,
you just started war with Iran? What the fuck are
you talking about? Yeah, But like for his initial response
to a law enforcement response to be this horny, it's
(39:31):
just a little weird. I don't know. Maybe it's the elderly.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
The elderly is freaking.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
They beat They are some freaks, and they have reached
a level of I don't care anymore. Yeah, and like yeah,
which you know I'm not there yet so I can't
speak to it.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
But it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
But also Trump is a rapist, so right now I
think he's more sort of rhetoric is exactly what's putting
him in danger. That and people stopping the ballroom. Dana
White's summary of it, It was fucking awesome. I literally
took every minute of it in. It was a pretty
(40:14):
crazy unique experience. Dana White, the UFC guy that was this,
he was at there and said it was fucking awesome.
I literally took every minute of it in. It was
a pretty crazy unique experience. And like this, you know,
this is the person who is helping Trump put literal
like gladiatorial combat on the lawn of the White House
(40:38):
for the two hundred and fiftieth, you know, July fourth celebration.
So it makes sense that he's just like, oh dude,
it was so sick. Did you see that? So tight?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We this is such a crazy time.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
I mean, I know we say that often, but like, yeah,
something bigger has to and likely will have, something.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Has to have. Just feel like such a such a
bad situation that like everybody is in. Billionaire investment banker
Lloyd blankfind tweeted or I get maybe this was a comment. No,
I think it was on axia. He said on the
positive side, was exciting. No one was killed and ended early.
(41:18):
I noted a new litmus for status among the government elite.
Whether you are whisked away by Secret Service or left
to fend. So the billionaire class looking on attempts to
kill them with amusement and as a status symbol. Is
also where we're at.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
It's crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
There is one guy who I do want to just
specifically shout out, Michael Glantz, who is a top agent
at Creative Artist Agency. And like during the live coverage
from CNN, you see like everybody's under their tables and hiding,
and there's this one older guy just eating his appetizer
(41:59):
at his table, just like a total g He said,
I'm a New Yorker. We live with sirens and activity
happening all the time. I wasn't scared. There are hundreds
of Secret Service agents hurtling themselves over tables and chairs,
and I wanted to watch. First of all, I have
a bad back. I couldn't get on the floor, and
if I did get on the floor, they'd have to
(42:20):
bring in people to get me off the floor. And
number two, I'm a hygiene freak. There was no freaking
way I was getting in my new tucks on the
dirty Hilton floor not happening.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
He was also he was also like, shit, they're not
aiming at me.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
And third, they're not trying to shoot me. They don't
give a fuck about me. Yeah, and by hiding, I
make myself look like I'm one of the people who
they are trying to shoot, rather than just sitting there
and calmly eating my barata salad.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like if I was a shooter, If I was a
shooter and this man maybe speaks to my psyche. If
I walked in and I'm seeing everybody and I'm like,
I brother, eat and I can't pop him like I
would like. It's just I just got more decency than that.
Just give you a little way. Enjoy enjoy your pasta, brother,
enjoy your pasta. I'm gonna take the bullets over here.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Amazing work by him, But yeah, generally that is how
a lot of like Dance Scaveno, White House Deputy chief
of Staff Dance Cavino tried to start a USA chant
and apparently nobody was into it, but uh, these these are.
It's because it is the whole thing with fascism is
(43:39):
like creating violence and chaos and then trying to turn
that into feelings of youtriotism and political action and make
it make it feel like something is happening. Because something
always is, and so it's just this like exciting, violent thing,
(44:01):
but it's also, you know, a terrible way to run
run a civilization.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
It's like if if if this ship wasn't so dangerous
and so life altering and fascist, this would be the
greatest like parody writing that you could possibly ever like get.
(44:30):
That's how crazy fascism is a parody. In many ways,
it's like a parody. It is just like a fucking parody.
This is this, This stuff is so unbelievable that it's
past funny.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
And back to sad. Whereas it's crazy like a.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
USA chant after somebody who's trying to shoot up a
correspond what what are.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
We talking about? At the assassin, everybody said, we got
the assassins do the way. Also, by the way, like
this was the first time that they've been like we
got ladies and gentlemen, we got him, and they haven't
had to like come out two hours later and been like,
psych actually we didn't, we don't got it.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Then for everybody to be like, let's do a US.
I'm not entirely confident that cash Ptel has this one
under control, just because he says he does.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, well at first I saw at first I saw
they shot him and killed them and damn peoples, like
he's not dead, right, Yeah, So, like you.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Know, news comes out wrong all the time.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
M hm, I don't know, especially in this White House.
Hey man, let me get you with a hashtag free
What was his name, Cody Allen?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Free Cody Allen.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
As yeah hash actually cold.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Cole Thomas Allen. They got him throw in the middle
name because.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Free ct A, free ct A, my brother, my brothers,
and in Chicago that's just free public transportation.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
But for the rest of the country, yeah, free ct A.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, you can do that with plausible deniability, just be
like free CTA. I was just saying, let's take a
quick break, we'll be back, and we're back, and just
(46:27):
other other aftermath of the of the assassination. We're gonna
talk again. We're going to get into the kind of
fun conspiracy theories that have immediately cropped up. People are
like fucking speed running the JFK assassination conspiracy theories online
with this one. But there's some really fun ones, including
(46:47):
involving time travel, that we'll get into uh in tomorrow's episode.
But just other one other thing that happened in the
aftermath is he decided to follow the attempted attack at
the Correspondence Center by attacking correspondents. So he did an
interview with sixty Minutes that when he was asked about
(47:09):
the attempted shooter's manifesto, which stated that he was no
longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and trader to
coat my hands with his crimes, Trump lashed out at
the interview and interviewer Nora O'Donnell. Her response was amazing.
She said, Oh, do you think he was referring to you?
Because he said I didn't say it was you. Why
(47:31):
are you getting so mad?
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
You you think he's talking about you? Wow?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Why is that? Mister Trump? He's so yeah, you're just
a horrible.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Excuse me, excuse me, he kept saying after she said that.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
I know it's can I ask, and this is a
legitimate question. I know it's against the law too, like
hit the president, like to touns him.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I know that, yes, is it against an all to
cuss his ass out?
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I don't think so, unless you unless it shows like
violent intent or something.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay, because I'm just like because I know, like they
have to worry about their jobs. And she's like, if
I go off, I'll get fired, and.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
And he'll CBS News at this point, so you got
to take it.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
But like he'd be saying ship to like so many
and like, I'm just surprised that somebody has it because
like because the type of person that Trump is, like
if you push back, if he's not, he will he
will back down on a verbal like on like verbal
war like he'll he'll tweet and he has that he'll
(48:45):
he tries to assert the power and say but if
somebody was like, nigga, fuck you, but.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
He would not say nothing. He wouldn't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
He would immediately his dick would enter into his body
and he would immediately like feetle love like.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
And I'm just so surprised that somebody hasn't done that yet.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Hasn't just said fuck you, because like because the ship, like,
don't just don't call.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Me disgusting and horrible, this ship to my face, bro, Yeah,
this is the exchange to my face.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
So she read that. Crazy, She read that, and he said,
I was waiting for you to read that because I
knew you would because you're horrible people. Horrible people, yeah,
he did write that I'm not a rapist. I didn't
rape anybody. And she said, oh, do you think he
was referring to you? And he said, I'm not a pedophile.
Excuse me, excuse me, I'm not a pedophile. You read
(49:40):
that cut from some sick person. I got associated with
stuff that has nothing to do with me. Like that's
what he starts spinning out and sounding like, you know
democrats who got caught doing something. Yeah, yeah, I got
associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me.
She's like, I'm just telling you what he said, and
then you're the one who's jumping all these conclusions.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Interesting hm hmm. Seems like they started name calling or
more right, and then like they'd just be going on
with the next question, like he just didn't. Man, I
just couldn't, Man, I just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, they just move on. It's like that interviewer
when Obama was like aliens are real, Uh, they're just
not at Area fifty one, and he was like, Okay,
speed round onto the next one. What's your favorite kind
of pizza? And it's just like everyone's like, yo, your
job as an interviewer is terrible, and be like wait,
(50:29):
what did you s. People ain't got no integrity in
the game. Boy, if it was, if it was me
and you Jack, we would be on there like on
b hold on brou no no, no, tell heart tell.
I heard this episode about to be two hours. Let's
talk about this. Yeah, the light just let's talk about
that lighting round has just turned into the record scratch
(50:50):
and then Frost Nixon round. Seriously, man, all right, uh,
finally let's talk about something that's not the assassination attempt.
These two US lawmakers, Pennsylvanian guy Risian Taller and Ohio's
Max L. Miller, are sponsoring a bill to give US
(51:12):
citizens who serve the IDF who serve in the IDF
military protections and benefits because they winning the award for
not reading the room. They're like, you know who we
need to look out for. But basically making it so
that citizens who voluntarily join the IDF qualify as veterans
(51:35):
under US law. This is not something done for any
other foreign military. No such legislation has ever been proposed
for voluntary service for places, for instance, like Ukraine. But
of course you know they both of their number one
campaign contributors are apak. Of course that will explain that
(52:00):
it's also the bill would give them.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
The main benefits would be, you know, uh, limits on
interest rate eviction and floor foreclosure protections, legal protections, uh,
and protections from being fired and from employment discrimination, which
seems particularly Yeah, seems particularly interesting given how public sentiment
(52:27):
has turned against the Israeli military. We got to make it.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
We got to make sure somebody can retaliate against proactive
defensive measures here. So anyways, you know what it don't
say it, don't say protection from these hands?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
What the are you talking about? All right? T is
such a pleasure having you. Thanks for joining us so early.
So it is this this episode is particularly a difficult
one because we recorded so early in the morning. So
so thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
A beautiful time.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Where can people find you? Follow you all like, it's.
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but I'm not going to tell you where it is.
You got to look for it.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
It's the only one you go to.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
It's the only one I go to.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
And you can also find me at Jackie's Neil over
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Speaker 1 (53:17):
All right, that's going to do it for us. This afternoon,
we are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of
the show. We're going to talk about the assassination plot, conspiracies,
and we are going to talk about Michael. I got
some egg on my face. I didn't think it was
going to be as massive as it turned out to be.
So we're going to talk about all that anymore tomorrow.
(53:38):
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
get your vaccines while you still can get your flu shots,
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
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