Ghosts = Plumbing? President Fake Lawyer Esq. 04.30.26

In episode 2050, Jack and guest co-host Sofiya Alexandra are joined by host of Go Home Bible, You're Drunk and White Homework, Tori Williams Douglass, to discuss… DOJ Weaponized Against National Trust for Historic Preservation and James Comey... With Embarrassingly Written Court Filings, Ghosts = Plumbing? And More!

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14. The mystery of the ‘ghost frequency’, the most terrifying sound known to man
15. Scientists Investigated a Frequency Linked to ‘Paranormal’
16. That ghostly presence may just be bad plumbing
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18. The fear frequency
19. Organ music 'instils religious feelings'

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the best O. Cool.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Do you guys want to just stop down and go
record together?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah? Hold on, Jack will be right back.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
We actually have a separate project we've launched. It's called Friendship.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Friendship I r L like not on zoom.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm so glad that I could make this happen for
you guys, So thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Blake told me that Miles is going to be back,
but fuck that ship neighbors.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, really, Miles need more friends. He has a child.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I know, right, that's the only friend I need.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Your kids aren't. Aren't your best friends, though, Jack? They
sometimes come for you.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
They they do not m my dad.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
He's so skimmy toilet.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
And then they're like six seven eight whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
That thing is, Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Success.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
A lot of people call it just do six seven
for sure, but you like to call it by its
full name, which is seven eight.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Jesus Holy Christ. I would never just say age. I'm
not a heathen, not for a heathen.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I thought it was. I thought it was Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
But right, well, there's there's that.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Obviously, I'm retired from religion, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thought it was Now I thought it was Jesus Harvey Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
That's Jesus Harvey is free b Why did that make
me think of TMZ and Harvey Levin immediately?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So that's that's my one true Lord and Savior. Amen, brother,
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sixth My name is Jack O'Brien aka Coming under Your Door.

(02:56):
They're waiting for you. Where beings are small and tiny
and weird. China magic mushrooms. That one courtesy of archcam Cam,
in reference to our our big story yesterday about a
type of magic mushroom that gives people the very specific

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hallucination that they are tiny people coming under their doors,
crawling all over their walls. You know, magical.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's the one thing that is.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, people do not seek it out. It is a
type of mushroom that is apparently delicious enough that they're like, yes,
sometimes it drives you temporarily insane in this very specific way.
For it's not just it's not but it is both
a very unpleasant trip and also one that lasts anywhere

(03:47):
from three to like seven days. And people, but.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
People are attacking you for days, for a week.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yes, you just can't stop seeing them. And it's apparently
like a common hallucination for people with brain injuries, and
it's very Yeah, they've been documented in history. They're called
Lilliputian hallucinations from but that's right, you got it, And yeah,

(04:17):
they're really they're really fucked up. But people apparently love
these mushrooms so much that they're just like, yeah, you
know if it's worth it. It's worth that if you
get a one that's a little bit on the rare
side of medium rare, you I'm going to be seeing
tiny people. But it's just so funny to have a

(04:38):
hallucination that is like so specific. It's like it is
like Wonka esque, where it's just like, yeah, and this
one makes you see tiny little people. I wish the
mushrooms that you like got from dealers were that specific
where they're just like, Yeah, this one's gonna.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
You're gonna see three redheads, toilets and a bag of beans.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Everyone's everybody sees it. You're gonna meet this guy. He's
kind of an asshole. He's gonna be totally in your head.
But yeah, he's have a question. He lives in the mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Do you think what Jonathan Swift or whoever wrote that's him.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right, Jonathan Swift, Johnny Swift.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Wrote Gulver travels. But do you think maybe the Lilliputian
thing was actually because he had seen that type of hallucination,
because maybe he ate that mushroom. Because that mushroom's been around,
so what came first?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know, it's been happening it's a great question. Wonder
Jonathan Swift is actually the official name of I Show Speed.
A lot of people don't know that it's the full man.
I'm three. You're welcome, do We joined by today's special
guest co host call host, a very talented writer, stand

(05:52):
up comedian who co honts the very great ninety Day
Fiance podcast. For twenty Day Fiance was some guy named
to Myles. It's Sophia Alexandra.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
So happy to be here, happy to be Mile.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So wonderful to have you, so wonderful to have you
as our Miles today. Miles will be back on Monday,
according to schedules, if everything goes according to schedule. Sophia,
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a brilliant anti racism educator, activist, writer, creator of the
acclaimed podcast White Homework, and co host of Go Home Bible.

(06:29):
You're Drunk. It's Tory Williams Douglas.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Good Bye. I'm so happy to be back. Thanks guys.
This is amazing, Sophia. It's so nice to.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Meet you, so nice to meet you.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I have to have my attorney send a strongly worded
letter to Blake Wexler because he told me Miles is
going to be here. But actually this is not great.
No offense to Miles. Sure, he's having a lovely time
you Wow.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So this is something that frequently happens when I'm out,
where everyone just immediately starts talking shit. It's like, thank
god Jack's out, Jack, stay on your vacation for another
week because these co hosts are killing it. So it
is really nice to have it happen to my mouth.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I mostly just talk about how much I dislike your
personality most.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's kind of yeah, but it's it's wonderful to have
you guys here and to let you guys meet because
you were maybe closer than you than you thought. You
guys aren't aren't far away from each other geographically, we
discovered before we started.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Coolest neighborhood in Portland's.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
There you go or don't don't, or don't or don't don't.
That's plenty, that's plenty specific, Tory, We're thrilled to have
you here. We're going to get to know you a
little bit better. In a moment, we're going to tell
the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today. Uh,
we got a couple of legal actions by the d
o J that are very funny and kind of embarrassingly

(07:59):
written in a way that makes it clear that they
were written by the president. Uh so we're gonna talk
about those. We're gonna do just little readings from from
those two actions, one going after James Comy. The other
is trying trying to get that damn ballroom. He's so
horny for this ballroom. I am starting to believe the
conspiracy theories. First I was like, he didn't stage a

(08:23):
false flag attack to get the ballroom. And now I'm like,
wait a second, this guy really fucking wants that ballroom.
That's crazy that this is what he's using the gear, like,
risking it all to do.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
What do you need a ballroom for? This is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
He's a he's a developer first and foremost. And then
we're gonna talk about ghosts. We're gonna check in with
you guys, see how you feel about ghosts.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm afraid of them. I'm just gonna tell you that, right.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I'm afraid of no ghosts. That is that what you're saying.
All that plenty more, But first, Tory, we do like
to ask our guests, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
So I've spent the last week ish unfortunately googling Trump's
neck waddle mm hmm, because he's got this little piece
of skin like on his neck. You know, it's slowly
coming down closer to the ground. Is you know, chins
and necks are wont to do.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
As an ape and the best of us.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think he starts the day with it tucked into
his shirt that's buttoned up all the way to his
throat right, and then over time as he's moving his
head around, it kind of starts to like creep out
and like full for.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I wonder if, yeah, that's a really good point. It
does seem to be tucked. And I do wonder what
that process looks like. Is he tucking it like from
the top, Is he like stuffing it down in there,
or does he like button the top button first and
then pull it down under you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh, I more thought he just kind of put it
into more into his neck.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, so down and then interesting very.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Slowly lift your head. But he moves around too much
to anyway. I've noticed that it looks it ends up
looking a lot like Genitalia, depending on the angle photographers
or were using, and it can go either way. It
can it can look like a nutsack or it can
look like a laba. You never know what you're gonna get.

(10:27):
And so I've just been like, so I love gross things,
and so I've been so intrigued by.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
This amazing It's like body horror.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
You're You're like, I'm just like, what okay, okay, like
this is this is a look. It's so interesting. I'm
just intrigued by how he likes to present himself as
a human being in the world on purpose, on purpose.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Time put him on there, and this is something that
he's very aware of, him very sensitive about. Time put
him on the cover of their their little magazine. I
don't know if you've heard of it, ever heard magazine magazine,
garbage publication. In my opinion, they put him on the cover,
and he was not pleased with how it because it
was very waddle first put it on. They I just

(11:19):
put it in the chat man.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Because they shot him from below.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's the most laby.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
That's how you know someone hates you when they're just
deliberately shooting you from below.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
The headline is his triumph and then they call him
the leader Israel needed how Gaza heals. This is after
the ceasefire that we all know went so well for
Gaza beautiful.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
They've had so much time to heal.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, but it is they did. They did kind of
do him dirty in this picture.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I will say, it makes me think of every fucking
time that someone's taken a photo of me doing stand
up that I did not authorize.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Them to do.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And then they posted, They're like, great show last night
and it's just from Bull and I'm.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, just head pushed in neck, like yeah, the
worst thing that anyone can possibly do. His main argument
beyond the labial nature of his neck, and it couldn't
be it couldn't be more labial or tucked. So it's
it's both. It's both. It is b O L t

(12:36):
H bolth and he like so, which is great because
he also didn't like that the sun is behind his
head and you can like see clear through like that thesion.
The little illusion of his hair is not working like
it's been. It's like, oh, he's basically a bald guy

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with like a little song of hair up top.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
You know what I find interesting is that? No, I
think that's commendable, Okay, but uh, the fact that it's
such a little tiny, like wisp of hair, you can
just see his bald head. You can think about what
he would have been like if he had run as
a bald man. And I think I don't know if

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he would have won, because the people that voted for
him are weird and like into this weird hyper masculine
thing he's into, you know where, like you have to
have a lot of hair and just be like a big,
strong whatever. But I think if he was bald, he'd
look either way meaner or way kinder, And I don't
think that's good.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
No, I think he would look worse. I do think
he would look like I've seen people have obviously photoshopped him,
by the way, for song is not what I thought.
It was physical sensation often described as Shiver's goosebumpster tingling
the sketch. Yeah, probably, who knows? Who knows what I thought?
I use words impressionistically liberally. Oh yeah, I think enough

(14:07):
people have photoshopped him bald that we kind of know
what it looks like. And he he looks like shit,
he looks like like worse Lex Luthor.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So he looks meaner. Yeah, yeah, interesting. I don't know
which way it would go.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Make energy without hair to like counterbalance. Yeah, he just
looks he looks bad. And also he it was so
much like his makeup budget would have to like triple
because he'd be putting.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So much foundation.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, there's that picture of him, like where he's his
face is like orange, but then you see that every
other part of him is like bright white. It looks
like e T when he's dead. You know, it's just like,
oh no, what this This is a dead person with
a face painted on it. So yeah, I think if
he was bald like he would, he would need to

(14:58):
be hitting the tanning tanning salon. Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
He could try micro needling. I don't know if that
works when you're like eight thousand years old, but he
could try and see maybe help with the hair situation.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Who knows micro needling.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I love that you're so positive, Tori. You're like, I
can help.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think there's so many things that he could do
to improve his appearance. Why I'm giving him like tipful
tips on how to look more attractive to I guess
straight men, right, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
But you know I'm not work for free right now, toy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think he should go, Like, speaking of needles, I think,
go hell raiser, go full hell raiser, lean into oh shit,
but yeah, you know, bald but with needles coming out
pins coming out of his head.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Go full on evil man.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Just like it's like what his spirit looks like.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, I think, yeah, he probably doesn't realize it, but
like it's it's so level he probably should just do that.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
His vision's got to be shipped too, like to leave
the house every day looking like there's such a way
he can see what he looks like in a mirror.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, like somebody with bad vision. Yes, and also nobody
around him who will tell him the truth.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And so what I'm terrified about.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
He has the illusion that because he sees lots of people.
So he's like, well, of course they would tell me
if I looked like total shit and had and had
a weird rash coming like coming out of the neck
of my shirt that looked like it was attacking me.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
And yeah, but he needs glasses. But he just just
like I think they're gay, you know, like I don't
think he would ever correct his gay. Yeah, he's almost sexual.
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
He thinks small shoes, even if you have small feet,
small shoes are gay and glass they're definitely gay. Super Torri,
what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, I have to be honest, I didn't since, Uh,
I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna this is It might
seem like pandering seeing a Sophia's here, but I feel
like Oregon is underrated. Yeah, do other people? I don't
know if people agree with this. Maybe it's not. Maybe
this is just my perception like living here, but I
feel like organ is underrated. We have a lot of
cool ship that like nobody knows about. And I'm not saying,

(17:20):
like move here unless you have a lot of taxes.
You know, if you've got tax money to like give
to the state, then please do consider moving here.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
But I there's no sales tax. When I say, though,
there's no sales tax here, so you've got to like
buy a house or just I don't, I don't know,
you know.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'll consider it.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, buy some property up here. Looking for a
place to get some property, second home?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Do give us the property store. Never come back without
a property or tail.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I can't speak, I can't speak to the but I
do want the Californians and like Seattleites who are slightly
priced out to come here and use all that equity
that they have to like help fund our schools. I'm
just extremely here for this.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Orgon has like so many secret gems. Give me, give
me a secret gym, because I do you do here.
My only form of media that I watch is Fox
News and they were telling me Portland's main main export
and like the number one thing that you can go
get is Antifa and the homeless, and that's about it.

(18:37):
People nodding off, falling out with needles in their arms.
M what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I haven't seen that happen yet. I'm still waiting for
like the Fox News like prescients to whatever that they
know that.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I don't know and see them.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
But it's not as so we okay, so we basically
have like universal healthcare here. Nobody fucking knows this what
it's incredible, Like it's slightly it's like slightly means tested,
but like the Oregon Health like to be the organ
Health Plan. It's like if you need health insurance, you
just tell them that you you need it, and they're

(19:14):
like sweet here you go. Yeah, you don't have to
be employed. You don't have to be a citizen of
the United States, like, you don't have to be looking
for work. They're just they're they're very generous. I feel
like this is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Like people don't know. That makes me as angry as
someone breaking the window of.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
A bank as a woman wearing pants.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Furious over here, i'd.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
I don't want my tax dollars going to people being healthy.
What I'm supposed to die go.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yes, I'm gonna get onto what you said, because it's
also really great if you have chronic illnesses, which a
bunch of my friends who have moved here, one of
the reasons they've done it is because they could actually
afford to take care of their illnesses. Yeah, my friend
takes an eleventh I think she said it was eleven
thousand dollars medication that with her health plan she can

(20:15):
actually afford.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
And that is what that medication should cost. Okay, I
I think all she's just taking care of the nanny state,
taking advantage of the nanny state. Okay, Yeah, that's I
did not know that.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
No, it's really cool, like nobody knows. I was shocked
to find out that like states like Georgia don't have
health insurance for people, Like if you're not insure, you just.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Can't shots fired at Georgia. Is that true of all
states or like states like I don't know Georgia looking
at you.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I was trying to help my friend in Georgia. I
was like, oh, yeah, you just go and sign up
for health insurance with the state, and they're like, no,
fuck you.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
We don't have that. Yeah what state?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah? Yeah, but also we have like the largest living
organism on the planet in Oregon. I love this for
me personally.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
What is it? Is it the fun guy?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I love mushrooms. I've gotten into it. I got books.
I'm very bad at telling them apart or finding them,
so I'm not eating them.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
But you don't want the.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Little You don't want the little men running into your
home under your door. Diarrhea.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I feel like that's what we have bad.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
The diarrhea is part of it.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, yeah, yourself seven days?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Why little men are? Which is which is the who
isn't a gent where people are like diary? The diarrhea
is part of it. I think it is ayahuasca, so
they give it to you. They put you out in nature.
You're like, okay, sounds good so far. You immediately begin
violently shitting yourself back a couple of steps there. That

(22:02):
sounds bad. It sounds bad to me about.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
The like trip. I don't want anyone to be like,
here's the bucket you will be using. You get one
bucket for both ends, literally though some people couldn't make
it to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen the film Old Joy?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Nope? No, Old Joy sounds like you made that up, honestly,
it does.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Throwing it out there in case it is the movie.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, I saw it actually in theaters.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's like, I'm actually one of the producers that this
is really killing me.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
There's a filmmaker named Kelly right right Hard who has made.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Dropping a hard R over there. What's Jack?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I know? I don't know r E I c h
A r T. She just made the film The Mastermind
this year that got a little bit of attention with
the mousey guy from the Challengers the dark hair. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Some Challengers's candle may you watch your mouth?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Is about Challengers?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Is it the one with the slightly big ears and
the dark hair or the Red haired one. Yeah, the
one I like the first one.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean I like it a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Challengers really is kind of fun. Challenge way more than
DAYA oriented, but it's pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah. They're like, well, she she's too much, too awesome
in this, We're gonna have to make it about the guys.
Let's break her leg.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean that's the part I hate. But the
part I like is when she makes both of them
go down on her, And I like that.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
That is fun. She made a movie called First Cal
that got a lot of attention. She's a good filmmaker.
She makes things in like a very interesting at a
very like slow interesting pace. One of her first movies,
if not her first few here length film is called
Old Joy and it's a just like a like her
movies don't have a lot of conflict, or they have
some conflict, but it's mainly just like a vibe.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Is character driven or like mood driven.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Mood driven, and it's the movie is about people from
Portland who just like go into the woods around ore
agaon and like go to a hot spring, I think,
and just really nice. Yeah it does. It is like
a great advertisement for Oregon. So I would recommend it

(24:35):
for people who aren't convinced, although I think everybody's going
to be convinced. It's also the will Oldham Bonnie Prince Billy,
that musician with any very old indie rock fans or listening,
that's the star of Old Joy or one of the stars.
I don't think he's been in any other movies.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I was also born in Eugene, Oregon, so I'm on board.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's a cool jack.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Look at that by birth and I didn't know you
were a Genian. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I moved when I was one, but it I remember it. Yeah,
I don't really remember it. I went back and was
so mad about all the hippies when I went back.
I know they're taking advant to see where I'm from,
just running around going free.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's it's just a college town, like well class track
and field town.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Just spinning on the voody donuts that you encountered. It's
mad as hell, blunt.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
What is toy something you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think that given the Christian nationalist vibes we're getting
as a country, I think that using apocalyptic language is
kind of overrated. You think that we're like giving them
what they want when we're like, oh, the world is
ending and whatever, because they're like, yeah, that's what we want.
We want to like trigger the rapture and us comes
back and God does this the genocide and like gives

(26:01):
us the earth. And I'm like, I don't actually think
we should be entertaining this logic, yeah at all. I
think it's probably not good for your mental health one.
But also it's like, let's imagine a future without these
people being in charge, instead of just being like, oh, well,
this is the end. They got it.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
They're taking as sound impossible. They will oh wait, they
very recently were viewed as just wackos who shouldn't be
in charge of anything. I think.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, So in the book The Ministry for the Future,
I probably have like reference this line on here before.
But and to be fair to the author, he's kind
of disavowed this a little bit. But one of the
lines in the book is people have an easier time
imagining the end of the world than the end of capitalism,
which I personally took as a challenge and I was like, hey,
let's do this differently. And so I think that like

(26:49):
when I just don't want to be using framing, even
if I'm kidding around, I don't want to be using
framing that like Mike Huckabee and Pete hegseeth like sincerely believe.
I don't want to give them that win. I don't
want to be carrying water for their ideas. So I'm
like trying to encourage all of my friends to like,
let's imagine something different and new that like doesn't doesn't.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I feel not called out but called in And I
like that.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I mean I was raised like Christian nationalists, like borderline culty,
so I definitely was. You know, this is what I
was taught as like a little kid, is that we
need to we need to get Israel to attack or
get around to attack Israel so that Jesus will come
back and then like they'll do all this fighting and
God will kill everybody and then it'll be a grand
old time. And you know, once you realize this, like oh,

(27:38):
this is a death cult, you're like, hey, maybe maybe
not like giving them what they want and like imagining
an incredible future for humanity that doesn't include billionaires or
trillionaires or death cults.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm Jewish, so I didn't grow up around any of that,
like the end of the world type language or relations
like that's just not a thing to me. But I
do say, like every time I talk about you know,
when we're like, oh my god, this is happening right now, well,
I'll go like, oh, you mean in the in the
air of our Satan twenty twenty six, And I'm like, no,

(28:10):
I need to take that out of my language because
it's the same thing as what you're saying. I'm just
going to what we're it is.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think we're like intervertinly giving into their I don't know,
propaganda about like how the world should be, and it's like, no,
the world should be a place where everyone has health
care and you can go and visit the biggest living
organism on the planet and you know, or go to
hot spring, go to a hot spring, go to the
deepest lake in the US, like, you know, all these

(28:41):
beautiful things that you get to do when when you're
an Oregon. Everyone should be allowed to do those things
all the time and have enough to eat and not
have to be worried about these people. So I'm like,
I've been thinking about the way that my language carries
water for fascists, and I'm like, not going to do
that anymore. I'm just I'm just gonna. It's the kind
of like maybe it's like a name it and claim
it thing, or like fake it till you make it,

(29:02):
but like, no, actually, things are going to get better,
and there are good people on this planet who are
working to make that happen, and we should be encouraging
and supporting those people and like doing what we can
to care for our neighbors and communities and not be
not being not using this language of like oh the
world sending, it's over, we're cooked. Like you know again, it's.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Still going to be happening in thirty years and there
will be like a whole new generation who has to
deal with the shit. So let's work on it. Let's
get started now.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Don't give up. Don't give up. Like they don't have
as much power as they think that they do, so
like let's not just preemptively roll over and die for them.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I'm just gonna What I'm going to do is increase
the amount of times that I say when the revolution comes,
there you.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Go, you know, yeah, I'm saying I'm like reconstruction two
point zero. When that happens, all these people are going
to go to jail, you know, until we have you know,
abolition for m Yeah, so we have a system, but
right now, you know I again, I'm like, uh, Elon

(30:13):
Musk can have all of his assets seas and he
can work as a Walmart greader. And I think that
would be good for him to just like have a comfortable,
middle CLASSI ish life, two bedroom apartment, take the bus
to work, shake people's hands as they come into Walmart
for the rest of his life while everyone else thrives.
I think that would be so so promising for all
of us and like so much like psychic torture for

(30:36):
him that like the world would just thrive off of
the I don't know, he'd start like decomposing in real time.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
And like Earth would start healing.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Hell, yes, like all these good things would grow out
of his corpse. Like I'm just trying to be more
creative and like, okay, how what could things look like
instead of just being like, oh, yeah, I'm going to
give up, you know, the fascist one so whatever. It's like, no,
these people they don't win, Like it feels like they're winning.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
For sure, but yeah, I don't have to win.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, they don't have to.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So I do love that quote because and I I
always say that I think the reason we're at least
part of the reason we're obsessed with post apocalyptic literature
is that it's one of the only places that we
can realistically imagine a walkable city, like living in a
walkable city where like totally it's not so hilarious. Yeah,

(31:32):
I truly think that that's actually true, that that's people.
People are just like, man, the only way that could
possibly have it is like everybody else gets wiped out.
It's like no, you can like go to cities in
other countries and like they're just like, aren't cars that
are going to like zip by and fucking kill.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
You to dude, Like yeah, like downtown Tokyo at night,
I'm like there's you don't see cars. It's really weird.
It's like it's like it's like London and peripheral where
there's just like two cars and like, yeah, it's super strange.
So yeah, there is people are doing it.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Cars you don't know one you know has one because
why would you. Everyone takes the fucking metro or whatever, and.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
They give you people waiting on the corners with I
was gonna say a bicycle and a bigotte and uh
four or five cigarettes, bottle of wine. Let's take a
quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk about the news,

(32:43):
and we're back and great overrated, underrated by the way.
It took a while to get through it. So we're
gonna we're gonna zoom through some news stories here, but
very very good overage. Underrated, Thank you, Tori. What we
got here? What do we got? We got we got
some Department of Justice bringing bring in some cases that

(33:05):
are clearly they remind me of, especially the second one
reminds me of if you've ever like read a paper
written by a fifth grader and it's like their first
paper and they're like using official sounding language but like
it's just.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
And they opened with like this is my us.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Right Anyways, it feels like Donald Trump doing that where
he he opens with like, you know, this is a
beautiful name, but unfortunately, like it's like the sort of
rhetorical fl flourish that like an idiot would be impressed by.
But he is truly hilarious unfortunately in some ways. But

(33:50):
I want to let's start with the James Comy one.
So the DJ is indicting James Comy, who Trump has
been mad at since he wouldn't drop the Michael Flynn investigation.
So the Komy So this one is focused on a
photograph of seashells on the beach. Do you guys remember

(34:12):
when Komy did this. You posted a picture that said
eighty six forty seven with the caption cool shell formation
on my beach walk and he people.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Were like, you're just writing. The president was writing there
you go, you under arrest, and he was like, okay,
I'll take it down. No, eighty six just means you know,
when you're out of something or something gets struck from
the menu. They said, you said struck, you're going to
kill the president.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
But anyways, that is that is literally their logic there
being like eighty six means to kill this. This is
a quote from an interview between Representative Mark Alfred and
CNN's Brionna Kyler. She said, when you eighty six in order,
you get rid of the order, right, but you're not

(34:59):
actually but you're not killing the food, right And Alfred
says it's the same principal. Brianna, she says there could
be room for debate on that. I will say if
we were playing, like you know, even two d chess,
like just like thinking a few laps steps ahead. I

(35:22):
think we play a little jiu jitsu here. There's there's
a thing in basketball called like pulling the chair on
someone where they're like leaning really hard against you and
you move and they fall down. Like I think we
let them take Komy guys a former FBI director who's
like probably a massive piece of shit. And also this
is a really bad joke, so I think they look stupid,

(35:45):
like being like he said, I remember he said mean
thing about me, Like it just I don't know, it
feels I don't.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Talk about what happens to comy. I hope that's clear.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You should have written one eighty seven forty seven. Then
that's unambiguous. We know what the fuck she meant.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I love that you have to be a conspiracy theorist
for this. So like to look at that and be like,
he's giving us a signal, He's letting us know he's
gonna kill Trump. It's like, I mean, I don't he's
not that dumb. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I don't know whatever. The guy who just tried to
assassinate him does seem to be like a centrist liberal,
so maybe he is taking taking secret messages from James Comy.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, since he didn't really try to kill him, I
don't really think it's applicable.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
He was like, you can't see me, you can't see me,
you can't see me as he ran by the secret Service. Yes,
it just feels like a cappella groups talking shit about
each other. Is the level of like James Comy's GISs here.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
A little pitch perfect action.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, yeah, eighty six forty seven got his ass?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
I would can post that. That feels so childish to me.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
It does. It feels so dumb. It like brings the
you know, something that is very serious or dessent into
fascism to the level of like just childishness and stupidity.
And like I just feel like if you just let
him waste a lot of energy on on fighting this post,
like he looks kind of stupid.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
But I wish is that there was video of Komy
whimsically putting the shells together and collecting them and putting
them in the shape of eighty six forty seven, but
that was some like real chill music behind it, and
just how it would look like he's doing a love
letter you know, you have to love someone to collect

(37:42):
a bunch of shells and make them like a peace please,
h like you are in love with him?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
My god, you're obsessed with me? Like that should be
obess that should be the logic of the case. Oh
my god, you're like obsessed.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
With Why are you so obsessed with me?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah? Freaking everybody out, dude, like.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I but he also made him a little shell necklace.
But he was like, no, that's too.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Much, too much, not too much. I'm much sorry. The uh.
And then of course he's extremely mad that the National
Trust for Historic Preservation is holding up his ballroom construction,
given that he did not go through any of the
proper channels before destroying roughly a third of the White House.
So they were created by Congress in nineteen forty nine,

(38:25):
and they work to preserve historic buildings such as the
White House and around.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
They're not doing a good job preserving it. If this
is how it goes down. Nope, they're like, we'll see
you in court. It's like okay, but like it doesn't
work with right, like the wrecking balls already here.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
So by the time, I don't know, Jack maybe talked
about this, like the last week about how the consequences,
the legal consequences when we were talking to Michael foot
for all of this stuff comes so much.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Later, right that like, you don't there's no what are
you trying to do in the meantime, because this is
not somebody that respects or follows any of the traditional
laws that we've had in place. So you're just stuck
out here hoping that in the future the justice will
work out. When the wrecking ball is already wrecking.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, he already broke it. Yeah, And then they were
like Okay, okay, you're not allowed to do that. He
is like paused a little bit. This does seem like
he's actually trying to be like, okay, fine, I'll do
it your way, we'll take it, I'll take you to court.
And the motion is just seems to be definitely written

(39:38):
by him. The National Trust for Historic Preservation is a
beautiful name, but even their name is fake all caps
because when they add the words in the United States,
the National Trust for Historic Preservation, it makes it sound
like a government agency, which it is not. It's just
like so clearly in his voice to have a core

(40:00):
motion that in the first line has an all caps
fake and it is very funny, says. They were shown
detailed plans and specifications of this knitted, unified and cohesive
structure by top officers and leaders in both the military
and Secret Service, but this did not deter them because

(40:21):
they suffer from Trump derangement syndrome commonly referred to as TDS,
as noted by Democrat Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, and
are represented by the lawyer of Barack Hussein Obama, Gregory Craig.
Just an amazing run on sentence.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
That anytime anybody drops a Barack Hussein, you know, you
know person's character.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yes, But to go like this is the part that
really reminded me of a fifth grader writing a paper
to just like use something that is just a thing
that people say online and be like it is commonly
referred to as TEDS, as noted by it, like he's
using the language of like an actual pathology that has

(41:07):
been like reported in the Harvard like like the Journal
of American Medicine.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
But he's THESM.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, he's like as noted by Democratic Senator John Fetterman.
The DSJF and the DSJF of Pennsylvania is just so funny.
The lower section of the building does not work without
the upper section, and likewise, the upper section of the
building does not work without the lower. It is all one,
highly integrated unit. Exclamation point. People use a lot of

(41:38):
exclamation points in court motions.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm sorry, I'm dying at the explanation of the building
just being two parts, upper and lower, and they don't
work without each.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Other, I like to say, and you understand.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Me, start building at the bottom. So actually, by definition,
the lower part works without the upper part. It's the beginning.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I don't understand other parts of the motion that lack
a bit of professionalism, and we're definitely not. We can't
tell who they were written by because the language is
so dry and professional and highly lawyered. Congress has never
dictated or tampered with the zoning, permitting, or architectural aspects

(42:22):
of any project, especially project is capitalized for some reason,
especially one being given free of charge as a gift
to the country all capitals, but because it is all caps.
Donald J. Trump, a highly successful real estate developer who
has abilities that others don't, especially those who assume the

(42:45):
office of president. This frivolous and meritless lawsuit was filed again.
It's called Trump derangement syndrome. All caps on top of
everything else. This project is a gift to our country
from President Trump at other donors. It is free of
charge to the American taxpayer. Who could ever object to that?

(43:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, and there is random best lawyer in America.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
There's also random capitalization of country donors.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yes, americanspayer, completely arbitrary. So it's not all yeah, his
all capitalizations he's pretty good at like deploying those when
he wants to do something for mhasis. But his capitalization
of words, like where he just does you know the
first letter capitalized is so bad. It has never ever

(43:37):
made any sense in any of his communications.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
It's just no system whatsoever for this z.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Where whatever whatever strikes him.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
What is this called? I feel like there's a name
for this because Robert Moses did this all the time.
Or he'd start a project, spend all the money because
he wouldn't get approval to do it the way that
he wanted, so that so then he'd go in, he'd
spend all the money that was in the budget, and
then they'd be like two thirds of the way through
a bridge and you'd be like, well, you can't just
leave this here, come on, man, like you gotta that's whatever.

(44:08):
I can't remember what it's called, but that is totally
what Trump's doing right here.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
And yeah, thing is like break ground. Once you break ground,
it's very hard.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
They can't help. They can't be like, no, never mind,
we're canceling this because you went over your budget. And yeah,
I think Trump is very much in that like headspace
of you know, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
And also if I like already break stuff, they can't
get it back anyway, right, So if they if they

(44:37):
come for me, I've already hurt them. It's anyway. It's
just all very us. That's how he works though, And
everyone's known this, right, it's in a decade at this point,
guys like, can you please get it together? Like this
is what he does.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
And to your earlier point, at the beginning of his presence,
you were like, it's the end of the world. It
can't get worse than this. This is as bad as
it can get. Well, it turns out this.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Is Yeah, we can't say that out loud anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I don't think you just get tired of talking about it,
and then people like stop talking about it, and he
keeps doing it, like getting worse and worse, it keeps going.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
I feel like we just need some emergency stopping mechanisms
written into the law for a bunch of different kinds
of things, so when people start doing this kind of stuff,
they're like forced to either stop or face consequences. And
you know, the way that we've structured everything, it's like
a bunch of things are Trump's proven, a bunch of
things are illegal in this country, but there's no mechanism

(45:34):
to enforce them. So then it's like, what is the
point of the law and why should anyone why should
anyone respect it? It's all very strange.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, and Jack and I were we talked about this
on the last time I was here too. When it's
like exactly the rapist attitude of let's break ground, let's
do the thing, and then like ask for forgiveness, not permis.
You know, it's the same shit.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, Oh wow, I take this very seriously, your accusation
or not.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
And the other thing is, I think whoever the next
president is is going to definitely like move into a
white house that has construction in it, like it's gonna
be sheets hanging out everywhere, or is any guy on
a ladder like for no reason everywhere? Like I just
don't think he's gonna finish this up, you know, because
I agree with you that's the rover Robert moses three
quarters of a bridge thing, Like, I don't think he's

(46:27):
gonna finish this No.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
No, Also, like, what are we gonna do with all
we talked? I think it was on yesterday's trending about
how he's like putting his face on like people's passports
and like on the passes for like the on the
passes for the national parks. It's like that's we're gonna
atually take all this shit down, Like it's so so annoying,
like we're we're gonna have to do do something else.

(46:51):
I think we should build a monument that's like in
the same way that there are like national monuments to
horrible things that have happened in the history of the world.
We should do turn whatever the ballroom that that area
was going to be into like a monument to the
low point of American democracy.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I think we gather all the things that he put
his face on, and like, you know, we do like
a like a public art piece that can just be
there where it's like they're burned, you know. And then
we're like, this is to remember forever what we have done,
which is what the Germans did about the Holocaust with
all of their monuments. They were like, we got to

(47:34):
remember this.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah. A giant trumphead that's
like crazy, Like the the neck is like almost like
uh damn.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
The children are sitting in the shade of the howels.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
You know, when they show it on the news, they
have to like blur it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I wanted it to be like his face and you
like walk into his mouth, you know, and there's a
bunch of like fun house mirrors.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Ship You're like, it's me, damn mirrors. You're like, I
did this.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And
we're back. And it's being widely reported for some reason
that a new study has explained the real reason why

(48:29):
somehouses appear to be haunted, and the reason doesn't involve
like souls with unfinished business or Christmas Eve warnings wander around.
I know that was that was what we were all
hoping it was. It's like we've discovered the cause of ghosts.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
A little adorable boy.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
They're never adorable though, you know. I guess Casper was
kind of cue cue and he was like kind of hot.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
I know he I wanted him to stay a ghost forever.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
There's a that is weird for me to say as
a forty five year old. I will put that out there. Uh,
there's a We've spoken to multiple people on this show
who have said that Casper when he appeared as a human,
was like a found foundational part of their like sexual development.

(49:26):
Was like they were like, he was really hot. It
was I forget the actor's name. I mean they were
twelve when it came out, and like the Casper was twelve.
The character that.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Now when the ghost came on, I was like, that's
my man, that's my dude right there. That's what I mean,
A little cartoon round body. I was like, oh, yes,
a little guy, thank you.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
I love.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Sal Yeah, Devin, he's a cool. Catherine just safely. She
said that's true. Okay, so that's not just me, a
forty five year old man saying, uh, and young Casper
was hot, am I right?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
No, everyone's saying.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
It everyone's saying it. Many are saying uh. So there's
a new study that's taking all the Casper Casper truthers
out there. It's taking them on. It's conducted by researchers
at Canada's McEwan University, and they were looking into the
effects of something called infrasound. Do you are you guys

(50:31):
aware of what infrasound is? It's a it's a frequency
that's too low, too low for humans to actually hear,
but you can sense it. It's weird.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Okay, I love this.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It's like very or like, what do you mean? No,
It's like it's like it manifestss like a feeling of dread.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, that's so fucked up.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
But your nervous system like responds to nothing.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I don't like this at all.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah, Oh that's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
That's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
I need to do. Can I do they make do
they make these? Do they make these as machines? I
want to like start playing this outside certain people's homes
for no reason.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So they have used it in film to make us
seem like very upsetting. There's a movie called Irreversible by
Casper no Noah no Ah Gaspar no A. Who I
think he made the What did he make?

Speaker 3 (51:27):
This is so interesting?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Think he made Into the Void or you know that
movie that's all first person and weird. Anyways, And there's
also rumors that like horror movies like Paranormal Activity and
The Conjuring Two hid infrasound on their soundtracks to like
kind of cause dread in people. So this news study
involved having thirty six volunteers described their moods while listening

(51:50):
to various musical styles that sometimes included infrasound, And they
also gave saliva samples to measure cortisol levels, which provided
empirical evidence that they were more stressed when exposed to infrasound.
They also, I think, have run previous studies where they like,

(52:11):
played infrasound in certain while people were going through haunted houses,
and like when they played it, like those people got
the fuck out there as fast as they possibly could.
But some theories as to like why this, why this
sound that we can't hear has negative effects on humans,
is that it's like evolutionary because natural sources of infrasound

(52:34):
include volcanic eruptions, landslides, avalanches, intense storms, or stampeding animals.
Damn have you had that. Like I was actually walking
with my parents this past weekend and there was just
we never like figured out what it was, but I
did like there's just this low like rumble those like

(52:56):
coming over the horizon that we were like, that's can
be an earthquake. We're all we're all dead, like you
could like kind of feel it. So I don't know,
is this ring bells wild?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Wild?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I mean it makes total sense. I mean, this makes
total sense to me, just like logically, and I can
I can definitely see how biologically or evolutionarily that this
would be like a protective mechanism that like your body
could still sense these things and like how your brain
react in like a fight or flight way even though
you can't consciously hear the noise, especially given the circumstances

(53:34):
that very dramatic and like life or death circumstances that
you've described, where they naturally where they occur in nature.
I like, yeah, I kind of wonder if like Tsunamis
maybe do that too, Like just really big events where
there are like the noises at so many frequencies that
it's like above and below which you can actually hear
with your ears.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I was also thinking about like maybe there's things that
have that embedded that we don't know about yet, Like
I don't know, you know, sometimes like I don't know,
babies crying right, like that is ultra upsetting to people
to hear because like we're wired for that to be upsetting, right,
So I wonder if like there's any kind of stuff
that is involved with something where like is there a

(54:16):
particular singer that somehow does that with their voice and
that's why you're always so fucked up when you're listening
to the song. You know, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Sharing that part in Eyes Wide Shut where it's like.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
That was that was kind of that was weird?

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Did you do Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could could be doing it. They
do say that actually some orgon church organs have it,
and so like they're creating this sort of terror liminal likesical.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
I would you know, what to manipulate people.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
It's kind of genius.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
But anyways, as it relates to haunted houses, this is
actually something by the way, that we wrote about back
at Crackton twenty ten because they're like there was a
guy in the eighties, a British engineer named Vic Tandy who,
as he was working in a medical device factory, he
began noticing odd shapes at the corners of his vision

(55:18):
and liked his coworkers had alleged that the building itself
was haunted, and he was like, what the fuck's going on,
and so he started like testing it and found that
there was infrasound, like there were there was equipment in
the factory that was making infrasound. And they're saying that

(55:39):
this also could suggest that when there's a haunted house,
that it's probably and that they've actually like found that
that you go to a haunted house and it's the
result of like aging pipes and like ventilation systems that
produced this very low frequency vibration. But I don't think

(55:59):
it's like all all haunted. Not all haunted houses, is
what I'm here. Hashtag hashtag not haunted houses.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
That's super interesting though too. I don't okay, I don't
remember the name of the person that you just said
who was like working in this factory, Vic Tandy. But
if I recall correctly, like those sound waves were like
pressing against his iris in this certain way where he
sat at his desk, which made like his his like

(56:27):
peripheral vision, which is wild, because if you think about that,
there's like you can't hear anything and your vision is
getting weird depending on what direction you're sitting and like
where the waves are coming from. Like that would trip
someone the fuck out. Obviously.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
It's like that original gas Light movie that.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
It's basically that, except it's real.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Nature.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
It's just nature some ways.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Uh, especially when it's used in a movie by some
male director who's like, I'm gonna make you feel very
bad right now. They think that it's also the thing
that causes animals, like when there is a tsunami or
an earthquake coming get the gas because it's just like
at a different frequency that we're but we we are

(57:24):
able to pick it enough, pick it up enough to
like have a panic attack.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
So they I feel like, I'm curious if they sell
like sensors for these things, not to like tell people
to like shop on Amazon, but if there was a
sensor for this, like on Amazon, that I could just
put up on my wall and be like, oh.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
The earth, like the big one is coming right, So
I'm not end up that one's a nice use of it.
I'm like, could we make this into a weapon? Oh yeah,
this for like a cop setting and then like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Totally, totally no, I'm I'm here for both.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I want both.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I want the machine that makes the sound and I
want to be able to see on my little like
radar thingy. How often it's occurring. Yeah, but it makes
sense because some houses do feel fucking off the whole
time you live there, and then you move somewhere else
and it's just not like that. And this makes so
much sense, and it's almost always older houses.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I mean, my my closest like ghost experience I was
having for like months, I heard someone walking around upstairs
in my bedroom, just like i'd be a home alone,
no one would be in the house. I'm just sitting
downstairs working.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
It turned out that I did have a plumbing problem
months later.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yes, it's.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
That's crazy, I know.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Yeah, my bathtub had like a tiny fissure in it,
and like water was dripping down and it absolutely sounded
like someone taking steps across the top house.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
And that's why our number one hero, the most popular
hero that's been created in like the last forty years,
a plumber named Mario, you know, because he's fighting off
the evil spirits that we know we'll finally facing out there.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
We're finally giving him as flowers.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Come get your flowers, sir, It'll give you fireball powers.
I was just going to say that, Tory, so wonderful
having you as always on the podcast Where can people
Find You? Follow you all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Thanks for having me. This has been so much fun.
You know, if you search Tory Glass, you can find
me on the internet. If you search Portland, you can
find me.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I r L.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
I haven't been on social media very much, just for
like my own what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Mental health? That's wrong?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Is there something wrong with social media?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
But yeah, you have infrasound coming out of it, because
that's the impression I'm getting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah, if you start story last, all my socials will
come up. And I am occasionally on like Instagram and
Blue Sky. I don't I don't really log into Twitter anymore.
But yeah, you can find me. If you search seeking,
you shall find amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Is there a work immedia that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Just watched American Fiction, which came out a couple of
years ago. But I just watched this week and it's
fucking amazing, and it's so I don't know. I have
never I've never seen anything like it. It's it's just
super super fascinating, super funny. Like the dialogue is super
well written. Obviously, Jeffrey Wright is fucking incredible. And it's
also got like Tracy Ellis, Ross Andray and like Stirling K. Brown.

(01:00:36):
It's just like an incredible cast, an incredible script. Like
the topic is fucking hysterical, and like, I never heard
about it. I don't remember if it's like I don't
online it says it came out different years, so I
don't even know when.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
It came out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
But I was like, oh my god, I gotta watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
So I was got fringe word type thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Okay, it's so good. If you need something to watch,
this a little bit lighter, you know, this weekend strongly recommend,
highly recommend that one. And then my my kid, my
kid and I decided to watch My thirteen year old
and I decided to watch Malcolm X for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
The movie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I like obviously read the book and stuff, but it
was it was like, oh yeah, let's let's see this, right,
So we watched the whole thing. It's you know, it's
kind of long, obviously, like Denzel Washington incredible, can't be
And then at the end, the after the movie sort
of ends, they put up a quote from Malcolm X
about like the need for self defense and like the

(01:01:41):
like moral and ethical justification for like black people being
able to defend themselves. I don't remember these specific quote.
And then immediately after that they put up they start
scrolling up an MLK quote about the need for to
be like to be peaceable in the way that we
address these issues of systemic discrimination and injustice. And so

(01:02:03):
if we're just like sitting there like reading this and
it's like kind of going up and my fourteen year
old he's not fourteen yet, he's almost fourteen. My my kid.
He goes there are two wolves inside a Black Nationalist,
and I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
My god, that's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I love you. And I'm like, okay, he gets it, sweep,
this is this is good for.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Me, fire line, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I was like, well, I don't have a comeback to that. Man, Like, yeah,
so you know, there are two wolves inside a Black Nationalist,
and I'm here for it. I think we need both wolves.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yeah, So that's me, amen, An, I just gave you stop.
Where can people find you? There? Working media? Been enjoy Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I just watched the movie Vamps, which I had not
even heard of, and it's like Alicia Silverstone and Kristin
Ritter and stuff, and I was like, what what is this?
It's so funny and weird and random. They're like vampires
and one of them is like old and one of
they're both in their twenties books wise, but there they were.

(01:03:23):
One is from like eighteen hundreds. This sounds wild and
I was like, why am I loving this so much?
The fashion? Everything is so good. Turns out it's Amy
Heckerling's second movie after Clueless. Oh yeah yeah, and it's
so underrated. It's delightful. You guys please if you haven't
seen Vamps, it's so sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Internet says it's free to stream on tub.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That's where I saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I'm gonna watch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I saw this. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Oh and I'm at the Sophia I t G s
O f I A. Come see me do comedy in
Portland and follow me on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I guess there you go. You can find me on Twitter.
Jack Underscore, Brian blue Sky, Jack Obie the number one
Instagram Jack Underscore, Oh underscore, Brian. I'm going to try
and get on Threads so I can have a fourth
different handle that I can make tell people about workI media.
I've been enjoying. I liked season two of Beef Oh Yeah,

(01:04:22):
which is you know, different than season one? Did I
like it as much as season one? Maybe not? But
I enjoyed it. And it's got some like stuff about
class in there that I thought was good and stuff
about Korea that I thought was good. So go check
go check that out. All right, what the hell? Go
check that out. You can find us on Twitter and

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Blue Sky at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily zei
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this episode wherever you're listening to it, and there at
the bottom you will find the footnotes. But which is
where we link off to the information that we talked
about in today's episode. We also link off to a
song we think you might enjoy. When Miles is out,
we like to ask super producer Justin Connor, is there

(01:05:05):
a song, sir, that you think the people might enjoy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
So this is pop Out by Larry June featuring Schoolboy Q.
This beat is really low key, It's like buttery smooth.
It's some real slow motion West Coast shit. It's like
really fun to bump in your car and whatnot. So
that track again is pop out by Larry June featuring
Schoolboy Q, and you can find that in the footnotes

(01:05:30):
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