Journey’s MAGA Journey, ALIEN BREEDING > Epstein Files 04.03.26

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm going to be performing my new Hour May sixth
the New York City and May eights and nights in Washington,
d C.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
My hometown.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh, I went to college in DC.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I really were.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I went to GW Cool.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I grew up in Georgetown, so oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I worked in Georgetown at Bridge Store Books.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Love that.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
My wife is from Tacoma Park, Maryland.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
We love Tacoma. I actually do love Tacoma.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
My friend, one of my best friends from growing up,
lives there, and when I was younger, I was jealous
of everyone they grew up there because it was like
the hippie town.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah yeah, exactly, Like people would have.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Like crops in their front yard and ducks and like
all this shit.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
And I was like, this is and like porch Fest
when it's like everyone comes out and like plays music
on their cute and you're like, they're gonna be doing
bluegrass over here. There's jazz over every time I go.
I'm like, this feels like a fucking bit.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I know, it kind of feels culty. There's something cultish
about to Coma Park.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something. I mean, it's such a
specific vibe.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's like that one place in Arizona. Yeah, you know
what I'm talking about, little yeah, little bommune situation and everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Interest because like so many bureaucrats live there, but they're
like also hippie and there's they're like one of the
first they like had like we will not be powered
by atomic energy like in the eighties, and was like, yeah,
you are never going to be. But like yeah, we're
just saying they're not going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Just they're never going to be, honey, So don't get
it twisted.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Like I'm not going to the party I wasn't invited to.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Exactly, a subway opened like on the main drag like
years ago, and someone threw a brick through the window.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I think it's I think.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It was the purple I think they extended, they made
a new line.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think they made a purple line. And I think
that that was a part of it because.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Redline always went like a subway sandwich shop.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Not even a subway station.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I was like no, no, no, they were like, we don't
like chains, don't bring no subway sandwich franchising here through
a brick through the window, period, and.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
That is how we should love that shit.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, just letting people know just like a low key
just like fuck, I'll break you well.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You know, the guy that likes threw the brick is
like a teacher at my high school probably, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
It's like kind of yeah, yeah, I know, this is
just step one. The dominoes are falling exactly. Next thing,
you know, we're gonna have a busboy and poets on
the corner exactly, And they do, and they do. Hello

(02:50):
the Internet, and welcome to season four thirty two, Episode
five of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. It's
the podcast where we take a deep dive into I said,
deep ive, deep dive into america shared consciousness through the
day's news. Batter I'm on the batter Feld with the
straight is the greatest victories you've ever seen. Check on Mondays.
We have new icons episodes dropping where we do deep

(03:12):
dives into some of our favorite icons. We've got all
kinds of things happening, but Lisa Frank I think coming up.
We've had Miss Piggy, We've had Sherlock Holmes, we've had
Easter Bunny everything. So check those out on Mondays. Great,
great fun. It's Friday, April third, twenty twenty six. That

(03:33):
means it's a National Film Score Day, National Chocolate most Day,
National Tweed Day. If you rock in tweed, I guess
it's your day. Still, it's kind of.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'd like to do all those three at the same time.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Hey, why not do them all? Here? I am your
host today, Miles Gray aka still Skipping with my Bros.
I'm not too old skip Skipping with my bros. Foot
slap and flows. Thank you to Stairs Crashing Game on
Discord for that one, because I was you know, there
was always those like videos that come up of like

(04:05):
bloomers trying to skip and everyone has forgotten how to skip.
Don't never lose that. Don't never lose that. Don't lose
that joy from your heart. And I'm thrilled to be
joined today by my guest co host, someone who I
actually a guest co host with all the time on
our other show for twenty de fiance, the brilliant talented
stand up comedian, writer and host Sophia Alexandrio.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Thank you so much. Someone gave me an aka which
was Taylor Swift Sparks Live, and thank you for this
for that, But I don't know what that is so
until I prepare for it for next time. I'm going
to look that up and then I'll come back strong.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Wawless execution. I just like that. Look there was an aka.
I don't know what it is, but thank you for
that art. Can I just tell you who that was
who came up with? Because I know I just told
you that that was from Johnny.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Davis, So shout out to john Johnny Davis, thank you
so much. You will be the reason I learned parks.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
By there you go left. So as long as somebody's
learning it, well, guess what, Sophia, we have a fantastic
guess somebody who hasn't been been around in a minute,
probably because they're so busy, because they're so pop in
right now. In between appearances here, you probably saw them
on Los of Spooky's. You've probably seen them on Fantasmas,
maybe fucking everywhere. Uh problem, mista, I can say so

(05:24):
many things, so many outlets, comedy centrals. Of course, there's
it's it's unending, it's unending. But here we know them
as a brilliant stand up comedian, writer, performer, someone who
is actually going to be coming if you are in
DC or New York City. She will be performing her
New Hour May sixth at Union Hall and then May

(05:46):
eighth and ninth at the DC Comedy Loft. Guys, it's
time to tap in with the one and only granted.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Title ben Oh my goodness, thank you so much. I
love that you went with the Julio for as the universe.
I mean, it's the it's all timers, all three of
them are all timers to be in.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I'm spookiesslo Torres is a genius. I'm like, damn because
when you're in like that, that says a lot about you. Greta.
I gotta say that, you know what, I thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I'm so happy to be here. And wait, I
just it's also good Friday.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
It is good Friday. Yes for those that observe, Yes
for those that observe. I don't want to bum people
out there, like, dude, they nailed Jesus to that thing today.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Look is that weird that it's called good then?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
I mean, well, it's about what's It's all about salvation.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's what I want y'all to know.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I am not religious at all, but I but I
did just just see that it is good Friday, and
I thought you know what I'm going.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I am personally going to celebrate.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Tweed Friday Friday. There you go over.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Good Friday, but for anyone that is into it, it's
also that.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
And also that yourself a chocolate moose regardless, because it's
also chocolate moose tweed.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
What was the other one?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Uh? Rainbow? Wait? Did I say that? There was something
about rainbows?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Who decides this stuff?

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Is? What you can do? Film score day?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
That was your film score.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Listen to a good film score, wearing tweed well, eating
chocolate moose, and observing.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Good Friday, and look and just go look at a crucifixion,
phainting or something, you know what I mean exactly. The
way you get a national day is you can either
pay money to like some of the cat like the
websites that will announce it to day, or you can
bribe the president and probably get a day named after
you if you're sufficiently point.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I think a second way seems much easier than the first.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, probably just bribe the president. Yes, Well, Greta, it's
great to see you. We're gonna get to know you
a little bit better. But first we're going to check
in with some of the news we're talking about. First up,
It's not often when my love of the Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City intersects with the real news, but
jen Shaw is out here and she's she's giving us
little tidbits of what it was like to be in

(08:12):
that Texas minimum security summer camp prison, because she gave
us an idea of what Gallayne Maxwell was like in there.
And also her best friend Elizabeth Holmes, who she lovingly
calls Lizzie, which I think is just which I think
is wonderful.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I hope, and I like, I have to believe it's
already in the works that there's going to be a
tell all book, Like.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I'm seeing a Netflix limited series.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
About this, but you need the visuals too something. I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Being best friends with Elizabeth Holmes is also like being
in the yard with Gilaine is crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's almost as crazy as I heard a rumor.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
And I don't know if this is true this Diddy
the Ditty and Sam Bankman free or Sam Bankman.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Oh Yeah it is that.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were cell mates.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh they're sellis wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't know if that's correct, but like I was like, oh,
that's a maybe that's a play.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know, maybe that's a play that I would watch.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think I didn't watch a movie or a show
where the three of them try to break out of prison.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Prison bring Gone.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Exactly and like you know, it'll be hijinks, but in
my version, like they still die, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, it looks like strange. Some they're
living in the same unit. So they are in the
same unit, okay, and actually no, there was also things
that said they are Selly's. That was back in twenty
twenty four. Sam Bakernfried says he shares prison bunk with
Sean Diddy Colmbs. That place they're in is like the
Askaban of pop culture. Yeah, you know what I mean,

(09:52):
because like Choppo's in there and ship.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Everyone is in there.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's the hottest club in New York.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I mean, it's kind of like, I don't know if
they should all be like plugged, like they're all plugged
now with each other.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, it seems like bad strategy, like let's separate them,
Let's put them in gen.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Pop in like Kansas thank You, Like let's spread them out,
because then you're putting l Chappo in there with Sam
Bankman Freed and Diddy like.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
All that is a nuclear bomb.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's gonna Arkham Asylum and Gotha. Okay, you're not putting
everybody next to each other so they can pull a
lot better.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yes, No, you're putting Penguin Joker.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
And Callander Man, like, are we serious everyone out here?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, we're also going to talk about since everything is
so bad with Trump's presidency, I think we're now moving
into the distraction, full on distractions moment because now they're
claiming we have alien breeding programs or something. Well, I'll
play an interesting clip also because Easter is coming up.

(10:59):
I just know Costco put on a ten pound Easter
bunny that you have to shatter with a hammer in
order to eat. So I just it was bizarre. Check
that out. And then you know, we're gonna have to
check in with Journey the band, because all of our
all of our uncles and aunts and parents love Journey.
But I didn't realize they've they're like in the midst
of like a Maga split and it's become kind of messy.

(11:22):
So we'll see that.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I'm gonna need to get into that.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, the keyboard play guys wild the Journey, so I'm excited.
You might say it is a journey.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Sorry quickly, yeah, wow. I mean he won't stop believing
that Trump is a great president. So before we do
any of that, Greta got to ask you, what's something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are,
what you're into?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, this is not necessarily revealing about who I am
or what I'm into. This is hard because I am,
as we discussed before, we're recording, sort of an ADHD
riddled girly and I go on deep dives like three
hundred times a day. I am truly like my husband

(12:04):
is always like, oh here she goes again, Like I
can't not like if I don't know something my I
was just talking to my trainer because I was telling
him the difference, like there's a difference between an amusement
park and a theme park, and I was telling him
what the difference is because I asked him, I was.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Like, what do you think is something that's overrated?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Because I was thinking, I was like, I don't know
what I think is necessarily overrated.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean, I think there are.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
A lot of things that are overrated, and I don't
know that I necessarily want to share publicly. But he
said to me, he was like, I think Disneyland is overrated.
And I was like why, He's like, because I think that.
I was like, what's better to you? He was like,
Knoxbury Farms and I said, well, Knoxbury's an amusement park.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Disney is a theme park.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And then I explained to him the difference and he
was like, you're so smart, and I was like, I wish,
I wish knowing that fact had anything to do with
me being smart.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's totally.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I was like, and if you don't know the difference,
you guys know the difference.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
The difference, Well, I also do deep dives and it
also makes people think that I'm smart. But yeah no.
But also Miles will be like, stop reading those subreddits
because I'll just be really in a.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Thing, and I'm like, but also I need you to
read them too, so I don't have to read them.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Would they say, yeah, yeah, I have banned myself from
Reddit because like, in terms of productivity, it will just
completely derail me really quickly. A theme park is when
rides have themes such as like Disneyland. Everything is based
off of Disney ip Disney story characters of that sort.
Character is exactly whereas like a six Flags that's an

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amusement park you're going to ride just like crazy roller coasters.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
What about Superman the ride? Does that actually count because
they have that? And there was a Batman one.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I think they have that A knots Very Farm.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
No, No, that's that Magic Mountain.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think that that's like light theming.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
But like you know, your every single every single ride
at Disney is themed to a Disney to Disney ip.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Anyway, I'm still dying over light theming. We use like merch, Like.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Okay, So I just to get back to the question
at hand, my search history. Again, this has nothing really
to do with like my interests, but I did frantically
google search at like one o'clock in the morning last
night is lamar Odom dead? Because because I saw on

(14:48):
Netflix like a little icon that said the death and Life.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Of lamar Odom. And I truly felt.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Like I had like quantum left into a different timeline
where like, how did I miss that lamar Odein was dead?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
You know what I mean? Right right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I was like whoa, like did lamar Odein die?
And I was panicked.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I was truly like, where was I when when this happened?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Like where were you when Lamar Odam died?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
But it turns out he's still alive.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, okay, And I don't like.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
That the Death and Life of Lamar. They're playing tricks,
you know.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
What I mean? Yeah, don't put that, Yeah, death and.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Life, sweetie, don't put the D word in the title.
Like now, it's.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Clickbait, not just someone yeah who's had drug problems and
overdose and stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
You're like, he was in the news recently for like
being not well. You cannot just like throw around the
D word like that.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Do you think is it gonna probably get a ton
of attention because of the Kardashian, Chloe Kardashian element of
it all, because I'm sure there's like that was kind
of like when it was really bad, it was when
the two of them were together. So I wonder if
like people also checked because I've seen so many head
lines come out about like Chloe Kardashian her relationship to
Lamar as kind of like all the press around this,

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and I wasn't sure how Kardashian coded the whole.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
People are definitely going People are so curious about every
component of their life that I'm sure half of the
people clicking on the death and life of Lamar like
not to be.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
A bitch, but he wasn't that great of a basketball player.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, honestly he got us, He got us a couple championships,
and I'm not gonna be mad at that he was there.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
But honestly, he did blow it a bunch of times.
Eric Fisher, he was in that integirl.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
He was. He was inconsistent, AGAs come on, yeah when
he no, but when he when he he did contribute.
But I do agree, yeah, he he could have gotten
it together a little bit.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I could n't play in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
So anyone say that, don't sell yourself short, Gretta. You
know you do all kinds of ship. You're a giant.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I've seen you dunk. Why are you lying to everyone?

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah? Just like tiny and feisty, busy bogues.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah yeah, but anyway, that was I shouldn't say that,
Lamar Rod. I'm probably probably great basketball player. I have
no fucking idea, you know, I think, But I think
that people are probably clicking on that more so out
of curiosity to his relationship with the Kardashian family.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, less so his career as a basketball player.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
No.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
And I think everyone loves to see like a human
train wreck, and unfortunately he was providing a lot of
that kind of entertainment for people were like, ohh what
a mess.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, speaking of human train wrecks and the Kardashian family,
you know, I was inundated a few two nights ago
with the Kanye West. I don't know if we can
Baltimore name him on this show, but his concert and
I was like, Oh, we're doing We're back here.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I was doing this again.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, he's back, He's doing He's literally touring. He has
two shows is so far? I think it's did they
already happen?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I think are there two? Over two? Nause?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I think that. I think the other one is tonight?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Right?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah? Because he has a new he had a new
he dropped a new album.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Last is he doing his new album which I have
not listened to.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
His new album is is Actually it's Hitler free this
time and free of weird songs, talking about his relationship
with his cousin. So this is like him trying to
get back to the old school, like chopped up sample Kanye,
the old Kanye.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Are people going to see Kanye?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Like, that's what I people will go to see.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, so I see the Kanye suparate is Oh god,
they got tattoos on on themselves. Still they're getting new ones.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, there's there are easy and there's are like good ass.
Sub is another one where it's why do I know
you know to get me out of here? Get me
out of here? God, Greta. What's something that you think
is underrated?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
The filling? Yeah, that little mars A pain.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, here's the thing, you guys, don't ever sleep on
an almond pissan. I know that you're thinking, oh, I
want a croissant with a filling. I think I see
almond and chocolate, and you're gonna go chocolate.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
But the problem with the.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Chocolate Croissan is they do the thing that I fucking hate,
which is a chocolate bar.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, I like the log.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, And it's like the log is something on one
half of the croissants and the other half is just
like not flaky enough, not giving me the or even
like plain buttery croissant layers.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Why are you in my mind?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
It's just it drives me crazy, like it drives me crazy.
So you're never satisfied with that chocolate croissant ever, Yeah,
So do yourself a favor and go almond, and I
promise you are going You're going to be more than satisfied.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
You're going to be in bliss mode. Honey.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You are going to bite in that and then you're
gonna say, oh my god, there's that full layer of
mars and pan throughout this whole. Even it's thick, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
It starts on tip, it goes, it goes the way
you're gesturing right now, It.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Goes tip to tip.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I am like pretty horny for you, don't.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
You don't need to. You know, A chocolate makes you work,
a chocolate makes you bite.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
What am I gonna get? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Am I there?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Almond croissant? It makes me one.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Bite yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's tip to tip. You're right, but you know that
is fully almonded.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
And then guess what, there's almonds on top, you know ones, yes,
and it's gorgeous and it's maybe it's a little healthy.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Maybe there's a little protein in that, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
What I mean. I like thinking of that too. It's like,
even though I'm eating like a solid sugar block of
mars band. At least I got a little almond protein
exactly exactly. It's responsible, honestly, I'm meaning one third of
an almond on top exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Which kind of leads me to what I think is overrated,
which is protein powder.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Mm hmm. Oh you're you're not on all the protein
ship that's popping off right now.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
About the protein powder.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Here's what I'm gonna say. I'm a fit girly. Okay,
I'm like a gym. I'm like a gym rat.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
I love Yeah, you look like the shredded Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, I love yet my games. I love you know,
I love.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Love stacking plates, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Stacking plates, pushing plates, chin ups, pull ups, whatever, Belgian
get ups, the whole dance.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
So what's a Belgian get up? Is that a dance
or outfit?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
When you have a kettlebell and you like sit up with.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
It, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but you.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Keep holding it above your head.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
So my goal.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
After a year after year is like, I want to
do one pull up. Okay, I did that. I want
to do two. I want to do three. So now
I'm at six. Yeah, So my goal for the end
of this year is I want to be able to
do ten Wow.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
What about muscle ups?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Those are hard?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
What are muscle ups?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
That's like when you go that and above.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
You go all the way? So I can do I
can do a technically what I'm doing. Your chin ups?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Sure, like doing a pull up where your grip is
this way. I like, can't really do that. I don't
really have interests. So because I don't want to like build.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
You don't get winged last, I don't want.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
To get crazy labs. But okay, protein powder, hear me out.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Okay, back to it.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I understand we need if we want gains, we need protein, Okay,
they they say. Some people say, if you really want games,
you need a gram of protein for every pound of
your body weight.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
And that's hard to do, my love, that is hard
to do. What I don't like about protein powder is
why it still tastes them like shit, you know what
I mean. It's like we've were we have been in
for so long, and I know it's in there. I
taste it in there, and like, can't we just figure

(23:09):
it out? And the problem is I'm lactose intolerant. I
don't I don't eat way.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
So like, I'm sure that there are maybe.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Are like limited maybe my bone to pick is with
vegan protein powder, and I'm just kind of like it
tastes synthetic, it tastes shitty. I think everyone is putting
too much on the protein powder when I think we
just need to be eating like solid like you couldn't
even be eating actual protein, you know what I mean.
And I just think that it's overrated in the sense

(23:40):
where I'm like, is it working, you know what I mean?
Or am I just like peeing this out? I gots like,
what is my body breaking down?

Speaker 4 (23:47):
I don't know, it's there's everything is protein fortified to
an absurd extent now because every like it's just become
like this buzzword for stuff like we go, there's this
many grams of protein and an eminem or whatever the
fuck are you talking about? Uh, one of our I
think it was Patrick Pegon, Pat Pagan send me this
link that Buffalo Wild Wings has now come out with

(24:08):
an espresso proteiny, Like what the fuck are we doing? Wait?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
So it's an espresso martini.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
With ten grams of fucking protein in there? For real?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
The thing I want y'all to know that I wrote
a movie and a joke in the movie is about
a protein product and they're not going to speak it
out loud public.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
And I'll tell you, guys, we're offline now.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I wrote this six years ago, okay, and.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Now I'm just waiting.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I'm counting down the hours to see this fake product
that I thought so funny. Really, no one will ever
want this, la la la, honey, it is about to
come out.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
I know it is you bones in my.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Bones, and then people are gonna be like, oh, yeah,
this is no right.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, well, protein movement is overrated at large.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, but that's not really a hot take, but
I think.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
It's for I think it's like it's being pushed on
people who don't who aren't like I don't not looking
for everything to be protein fortified or like that's not
a selling weird.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
It's like they also need like fiber, fruit and vegetable, that's.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
What we really need.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
But the buzzword before that was gluten, right, so then
they would put on any food that never contained gluten
and would never we're just glute free And you're like,
I know, it's a fucking watermelon.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, thanks, for that, Yeah, but I think it's.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
The same now they're like, this is how much protein
in your fucking milkshakell, because you know this isn't what
I'm here for.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
The postpan, like the pandemic kicked off a whole fitness
craze and like since then it's been it's just been
a thing that everyone isn't marketing.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
So I also I hate watching people drink milk. I
think it's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Are you finding yourself in a lot of situations, like,
don't make me watch you drink of smoke.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
She's just like she lives her life in that scene
and get out where she literally.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Literally I hate it, and I'm and I feel like
my TikTok just like pushes people drinking milk on me
all the time, mostly because it's when I check in
on Ballerina farms, you know what I mean? When I
check in on his mama and she's over there drinking
so much protein powder and raw milk and goat milk
and sheep milk, and I am truly like I hate

(26:29):
watching it because like I'm watching her slug down this
milk and it's sick. But I can't stop.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
I can't stop. Why does it hurt so good? All right,
with that, We're gonna take a quick break and when
we come back, got to check in with Genshaw. Let
us know what it's like in that amazing Texas prison. Please,
we'll be right back. And we're so look, there's a

(27:02):
lot going on. The Epstein files keep coming back up.
There was one of Trump's accusers seems to be even
more credible, as we found out in the last week
that a lot of the things that she was saying
seems to be backed up by a lot of evidence
that's already out there. And so we're always like, what,
but what's going on with Gallaine Maxwell? You know what
I mean? Because she's in that Texas minimum security summer

(27:23):
camp and we only know as much as her lawyer
has her right in statements that are always some form
of Donald Trump is so innocent that I don't think
he ever actually even met Jeffrey Epstein. And if they did,
it was so Trump could tell him to stop being
such a bad guy. Signed, Gallaine Maxwell can have a
pardon now. So anyway, thank god for Jenshaw, the real

(27:45):
housewife of Salt Lake City who was indicted for her
telemarketing scheme that defrauded old people out of their money.
She was recently, Yes, she was pure.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
That is pure, pure evil.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, old people, or if you fuck with children, it's
like there's something extra.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
The defenseless, the truly defenseless in that it's like kids.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And old people and animals.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
It's like it's just don't do it. Don't do it,
do it, don't do it. So she's been on home
confinement since December, but luckily she's been speaking to the
press and we found out a little bit about her
time in prison for starters that, as she puts it,
Lizzy and I are good friends. Lizzy, who's that the

(28:33):
scam queen herself Pharaoh noses Elizabeth Holmes. She said, quote friends,
this is this is where I'm a little bit like,
hold on, Jen, Like, you're not popping, she said, as
another high profile prisoner, there are certain things you are
both dealing with, so you naturally come together in those instances.
I'm like, well, hold on, Jen, do you I mean

(28:54):
you definitely you were popping because you aren't real housewives
and you are high profile, and that like you were
probably more more known publicly than some of the other people. Here,
but you're not on Elizabeth Holmes this level. Let's not
do that. Now, you got your own level, but you're
not on Lizzie's level.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
But also, what a bizarre statement to be, like, look,
all of us famous like people have to hang out together.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yeah, Like I remember, like I would do that ship
if like I was like when I was in my twenties,
I'd be at the club and another celebrity was there
and I'm like, yeah, bro, you know I was partying
with you know, Nicole Ritchie, So we were just.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Out there see her across the room.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah yeah, exactly a.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Comedian being like, oh yeah, I opened for Maria Bamford
and it's like, no, she was on a show you
were at. Yeah yeah, well you know when it was
brand new, I did that ship.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
I can see it. I can see it. But so
she said her and Lizzie were on poop duty, and
she said, quote, when you do poop duty with someone,
you're going to be close.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
So I'm actually obsessed with that because that's like that
she's being dropped in and she's keeping it real.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
When you're on.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Poop duty, you're in trenches. You are.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
That is your girl, That is your Girl for Life. Yeah,
poop duty is no joke.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, And so then they're like, oh, what's poop duty?
A quote? After inmates use the bathroom, you have to
get up, go inspect it and either clean it if
they don't, or tell them to come back and clean it.
And you can imagine the smells and everything going on.
If you get more strikes, you keep doing more hours
of poop duty. So yeah, it's a thing. It's poop
duty in prison.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Hold on, So what jenn is saying is that she
and Lizzie had a lot of strikes against them.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
They might have been squatting their.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Duty exactly because they're a poop duty a lot. But
what I want to know is like, sorry, so you need.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
To I just want to get it's an It sounds like, yeah,
like what did you do? Though?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
No, but I also want to know exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, so people will go to the bathroom and then
you need to go and check if they flushed.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think I guess that it's probably one of those things, right,
if you're on poop duty, meaning you are responsible for
these toilets being clean. Yeah, I guess, because it's also
a prison. Like now, however, you do that that's on y'all.
So maybe their whole thing is like, oh, you know
so and so I went in there to take a shit,
go press them really quick, you know what I mean.
And Jen's like, excuse me, I just saw what you

(31:19):
did in there, and you need to clean it up
or Lizzie and I are about to fuck you up.
I don't know if that's what they were going to do,
but she's.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Wearing a prison turtleneck.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I remember like being at summer camp maybe or something
of that sort, when like someone pooped and like the
poop bridged the whole, like you know, and then it
took multiple flushes to.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Get what camp down there?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's powerful.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Camp in Canada, which summer camp in Canada? Anyway, that's
a disgusting was a disgusting.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Thing to say, don't worry. Earlier were talking abot out
the space toilet and how it works.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, sure, it's somehow, it's very it's thematic this week,
uh toilet speak week here on the daily. So then
we get to Gallaine Maxwell and Jenshaw was saying, like,
you know, I chose to have limited interactions with Gallaine Maxwell,

(32:22):
probably because she couldn't do anything for your cred obviously,
you know what I mean, Elizabeth.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I just think it's hilarious. She's still going to drop
that name. But she's like, no, I'm actually a good
guy because I chose not to hang out with the
fucking pedophile all the time. Yeah right, i'de times good.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
I'd imagine just generally, if you're in there, who's gonna
kick it with Gallaine Maxwell? You know what I mean? Like,
that's a that's probably like, yeah, I could stay away
from that motherfucker. Probably.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well, I heard I heard on my friend Carrie's podcast
that apparently Gillaine Maxwell is known for being stinky. Oh yikes, Well,
apparently apparently the rumor is she is known for having
bad hygiene in jail and being stinky. But then I
guess that's maybe because she's afraid to shower.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
There was that too, because I know she was saying
that was one of the reasons she she was asking
for all kinds of accommodations that she ended up getting
in the prison. So tb D. But we do know
is that.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Wait, wait, it was she afraid to shower because she
thought someone might I don't know, assault assault.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I don't know, or perhaps k I L L.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, that sounds terrible. I mean, I wonder if there's
anything in her life that she has done that is
similar to this.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what if there's any reason, well.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Here's here's the deal. Probably not, because this is what
Jenshaw was saying. She said last year when their Epstein
survivors on Capitol Hill calling for the full release of
the Epstein files. Maxwell quote made it very publicly known,
at least to Elizabeth and I, that there is no
remorse there to see that kind of behavior when they're

(33:59):
a real vic, to see what they went through, and
to be so dismissive of that. That did not sit
with me the right way. Okay, I'd imagine it didn't
sit with you the right way if you are offended.
So I guess her other thing is maybe when they're
saying like who knows this? The TV's on and what
everybody sayding like looking back at Glaane being like m
which you think she's I don't know their haters. Sorry,

(34:22):
I don't know what she was trying to say, but
that's that was her one take on him, which I
think makes sense because she seems she seems ready to
just say whatever needs to be said to please the
president to try and get out of this. But I
mean I can't.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I can't believe that she's still alive.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, who knows.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Sorry, I know that that's so dark.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Well no, it's not. It is confusing that of the
immediately and she's just around. Yeah, with all the secrets,
like that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I mean, it could be that she might have played
a better hand or something. She's like, first of all,
something happens to me, everything will come out. I don't know. Yeah,
she has to have.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Like something set up with her lawyer that like.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
If insurance policy type.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, there's some sort of insurance policy there. But I
guess you know what is her sentence. She's in jail
for twenty something years.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, yeah, so like I mean she ostensibly could I guess,
live after, but like wherever she lives after, she's going
to need to hide away and sort of live in
the woods.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Perhaps, Yeah, because what she's been in there for like
true three years now, she's sixty four.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Have you seen the conspiracy theories that it's not her
in jail, ye, and it's like the side by side
photos and whatever. I just want to say this because
I again deep dive. The way to tell if someone
is the same person is actually their ears. Because you
can't change your ears apparently.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Change the distance between your eyes.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
That's the one sure, But with makeup or whatever, it
can look different. You could get that fox eye lift whatever.
What I'm saying is you can't do ship to your ears.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
You can get your ears, you.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Can know, you can make them elf.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
You can do anything, you can take them out. I've done, Sophia,
I've done ear deep dive.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
What I'm saying is regular ass people. We're not doing
elf ears. We're not doing like anything. We're just people
that have done bad ship or people have disappeared and
you're like, is this healthy? I'm saying gonna say, she
tell you have elf ears though, So what I'm saying
is just look at the pitch's ears. It's pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Gilea leaves prison with elf ears and like a split tongue.
She just like full, she just full.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Crazy body mod and jail and she leaves and she
has like she did the thing where you like die
the whites of your eyes a different colors.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
She got those uh hooks in her back to like
the rings she can hang.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, she was full oz mode. Remember that show?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, hell yeah, I do well speaking of the Epstein
files and how bad it is for the president, I
there's like, as things have gotten worse and worse over
this first year, going into the second year of Trump's presidency,
always suspected that, like, if Trump ever needed like an
emergency distraction, like he would play the his fucking aliens

(37:23):
out here card to get people, because that's like the
one of the few things that people like, huh, what
what are you saying? And we did know that the
White House recently registered alien dot gov and aliens dot
gov and people are like that created a bunch of
headlines and they're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
What's going on? And then the last week JD. Vance
spoke to Benny Johnson about aliens and he's like, how

(37:45):
he thinks they're actually demonic? Uh, according to me, and
they are real, and so it just seems like you.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Are a demon look in the mirror.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
It just feels like a theme on like right wing
media right now is people talking more about aliens rather
than fucking everything else going on, Like.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
The war been, the this has been, it's now if
you want to go on like deep dive conspiracy or whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's been the number one invention of a distraction.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Since like the Victies.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, and you know, and it's it's.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
The it's the look over here, look over here, look
over here, like.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, you know, definitely look over here. Don't look at
the Epstein files because I had to just fire Pam
Bondi over that. But recently disgraced former Congressman Matt Gates,
he went to the Benny Johnson's show and he also
had this wacky ass shit to say about aliens, and

(38:42):
then it was like talked about on Newsmax. So first,
this is what Matt Gates was saying about aliens.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
I had someone come and brief me who was in
a military uniform worked for the United States Army. That
was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs
where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some
hybrid race that could engage in intergalactic communication. Aliens that
were living were enforced breeding programs with humans that had

(39:12):
been abducted from war zones and from even the caravans
of migrants.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Actually, he's I think actually describing something Jeffrey Epstein was
doing to be honest, like he had that whole facility
in New Mexico where he was obsessed with that was
like just so weird how you're now being like they're
doing this thing where they're like they're doing hybrid's space
hybridized species of extraterrestrial and human being. That's his fucking
claim right now, which is like, bro, are you serious?

(39:43):
This is this is this is where you're at right now.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
And so I just want to point out that he
was wearing.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
A white T shirt with a blazer.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Anything you said, seriously, you knew you were going to
be visible, right like what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Man?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
To be fair, that's his that's his swagless sort of
the worst.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Here's my thing, Like, first of all, I think that
we can do this consensually, Like I think that there
are a lot of people that would consensually.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I would be curious to.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Know what my alien, my half, my my sort of
mud blood half right half wizard, half human baby would
look like I'd be curious, like if they wanted an
egg to mix it up with alien sperm, like let's go,
I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I would do it, like.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Sensual, what would you want from an alien for you
to feel comfortable breeding with it.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Like well, you can't sure was that alien would be?
Like right, it's like asking like to imagine something that's
like otherworldly. Like what we know is like we will
give them an egg, but we don't know anything else
about it. You know.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, Like here's what I would like. Here's what I
would like. I'd like to go and visit. I would
like to visit their country. There they're true, you know
what I mean? Like first, yeah, I'd like to visit
the planet. I'd like to know that like okay, if
it's a tentacle monster, if it like doesn't have IDEs,
if we're going with like sensory kind of tentacles like

(41:16):
crazy things like you.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Know, curious curious. I would love for us to have
some sort of like tie the bines. Like music.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
You know, music kind.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Of seems to be something that we can.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Ye or like art or something.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, like something we can vibe with. You know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Would you be some weird about if they were like
a fan of yours.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
And I would be if I had intergalactic fans. I mean,
now we're.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Talking, be so cute.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
We're talking, we're talking like you know, that would be
really amazing. Obviously, it would be ideal if they were
the cute little green aliens from Toy Story, because I
think that me and one of those cute green aliens
from Toy Story would have a really cute.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
And if it was a fan when meeting you reread it,
you'd be like oo, like.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Totally opposite alien experiences. I want like an entity, you know, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Also could have like bread Predator could come and like
break my back, you know, because I'd be curious to.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Know what that experience.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Oh yeah, with those dreads, I see, I see you, Predator.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
But I think that this.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
What bums me out is that they're like they're forcing
these aliens.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Well that's where it has to be, but that's what's
sort of like.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Wow, forcing the aliens. We don't even know the aliens capabilities.
Maybe the aliens are like let's think, let's make these
dumb ships think we're doing this for them. Actually this
is part of our program, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, totally, because it's like because realistically, like alien.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Sperm can't I mean, I don't know what do I know?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
But like aliens, yeah, what do you know? Hold on?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
What are they like fertilize the human egg. So what's
happening is like DNA twirling.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
You know what I mean, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
But we don't don't even imagine it. And I would
love for it to be just like an entity that
like I have to try to understand and it's just
like a consciousness but you can like vibe, but like
I fully my small brain, I cannot comprehend everything that
it is. That's why I want to have a baby with,
which is sick probably.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
But if you guys got if an alien came and
they were like, hey, we can take you back to
our planet, but you can never return home, but you
can bring your loved ones.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
How many three?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Not enough?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I don't think my mom's gonna go.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
And imagine greater you go and it's like it's like
some fuck, you know what I mean, Like there's not
even like give it a solid Well, can I see
the hotel first exactly?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
See the Zillow listing? What's happening?

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Like, what's the walking score there?

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah, hold on, let me, let me, let me change
the offer really quickly, and then we came up on track.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
One year.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
One year. Well but so how how how slowly does
space move?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
That's a good smart Is there a year here or
a year there?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Okay, so it would be a year here and over
there it could be like a month.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Oh wow, And then I feel bad. How can I
really get to know somebody or a place in one month?
You know? I want to be fair to there, but.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
It will probably feel like a year still when you're there.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Just what I'm saying, we just don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know, the truth is out there, and it is
out there, that's a fact. I would totally do it,
gright up, but I don't. I don't think any of
my loved ones would want to go. No, yeah, I
don't think, and I don't think my mom would be
into it. I'm like, I have to find people the
US will go.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yes, speak for yourself. I got to see the pictures first.
I'm not going there. But so, this whole claim was
basically brought up on Newsmax where they asked sitting Congressman
Tim Burkett about, you know, his feelings on all of this,
and he was like, He's like, well, I can't really
speak on this because I'm sitting member of Congress and

(45:01):
they got news MAXI, what are you fucking serious, something
like an alien fu program. But here he is going
on to really like underline that it's it's it's lost
of spookies anstally, Are you being serious or serious?

Speaker 6 (45:15):
I've been one hundred percent serious. I've been brief by
just about every alphabet agency there is. And I'll just
tell you this, if they would release the things that
I've seen, you would stay up. You'd be up at
night worrying about or thinking about this stuff. We just
need to disclose it all. I'm sick of it. You're well,

(45:38):
I was, I was brief. I'll just tell you this.
I was brief last week on an issue or excuse me,
two weeks ago, and it would have set the earthought
this this country would have come uncolateted I think. I.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
I mean we already saw the Epstein files too, so
that you know if we did some about that the country,
it was kind of say the country.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You will come on glued. Have you been present for
the last gestures and everything?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Okay, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
We've been in glued, bitch.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
The framework is trying to maintain. It's like, no, this
this thing I'm talking about is actually the crazy thing,
not the reality that you're living.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
That that he's lying.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, I would just like to say that the way
that he's being, he's like and I've been breathed by
every there.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
If you saw I'm named the agencies right now, if
you even if you even looked at some of the things,
you'd be awake.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
You'd be oh, you'd be awake. You couldn't go back
to bed. You'd be like, well, I'm up, and I'm
sick of it.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I'm sick of it.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
It's like, sweetie, you are what are you talking about?
They are putting you there, trotting you out here to distract.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
He also then and again he was wearing an orange
polo shirt. Can we just say that everyone who is
not to be taken seriously is showing us their ass
immediately because that ship is like faded, it's like my home.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Well, he's like, what he's doing, he's doing the Tennessee
Volunteers proud. He's really dressing the color of his state.
That's what he's doing. I see the Tennessee Volunteers uniform
when I see that orange polo. But yeah, he then
followed that up with like, just for the record, I'm
not suicidal and I don't take risks, so what yeah,
to try and be like, because I'm fucking out here

(47:18):
saying shit that they don't want you to know. So
he had to really say.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, right, just so you know, I didn't kill myself.
I'm like, what knowledge? You probably can't work your remote, Like,
what's happening?

Speaker 4 (47:32):
All right, let's take a quick break and when we
come back. Unfortunately, another MAGA entity is in the process
of doing a really doing a number on themselves, and
that's the band Journey. We'll be right back and we're back.

(47:59):
So Journey is still popular. We still hear their songs
played everywhere. Still got the torch songs that drunk people
like to scream out loud at twelve thirty, but they
are now. They've just recently, like Don't Stop Believing almost
cracked the top ten most stream rock songs, okay last
year and it came in at number eleven.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Hey, what were the what were the songs that were
I would have guessed that that was in like the
top five.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Of this is just like of the year that I'm
just saying, in a year of a trend. In twenty
twenty five, they had the number eleven most stream rock song.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I was thinking of, like all time, you're saying, year
after year after year they still crack in.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Oh no, no, I think it's just like for whatever reason. Yeah,
this last year they had a really solid showing.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Can I ask, Yeah, Bohemian Rhapsody.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
How I don't have that popular is that I don't
think as much. That's kind of more like don't stop believing.
It's just like one of those things that like all
people have a certain like, oh man, don't stop for anthem.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
It's like a real battle cry.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I guess when I've been to bars that are karaoke
bars or whatever, whenever those two songs come on, everybody sings.
I'm trying to see what that's kind.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
To do. Bohemian Rhapsody, Yeah, Bohemia Rapsody has been like, bro,
this motherfucker about to be up here for five minutes.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Oh no, no, no, I mean everyone in the bar
is singing, yeah, just so they can't.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Help right side, don't light. It's very very frightening everyone,
you know. I think for us that's because it's Wayne's world,
you know what I mean. Whereas like older people like
they were snorting cocaine and screaming out don't Stop Believing
in the eighties, like really fucking feeling that ship. But

(49:47):
they're cashing in with the final Frontier Farewell Tour, which
they are going to be going all around playing don't
Stop Believing any way you want.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
It and other stuff. We don't know.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I don't even know another song, only two. I know
what you want that's the way.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, I mean those are good jams, solid jams. I
don't know if you can build a sixty city tour around.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
That, well you apparently can. And this is despite the
fact that there there's only two like original members that
are still part of the band, the guitarist Neil shown
and the keyboard is Jonathan Kane, who technically is actually
not an original member. He joined in the eighties. If
I'm gonna get pedantic, the original keyboard player was this
guy named Rawley.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
But bro, if you lost the singer and if you like.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Steve Perry right like the Steve he's in there. So
the two of the last two members that are still
part of the band fucking hate each other. And in fact,
this guy Neil Sean, he's suing Jonathan Kane because first
of all, this is how messy it is he was
quote denied access to the group's American Express card. Cain,

(50:54):
Jonathan Kane was, Jonathan Kane was, And then Kane is
saying that he was cut off because he racked up
more than one million dollars in improper personal expenses on
the card.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
I feel like you can't just say that kind of
shit without giving me details. There's a group credit card
for a band, yeah, and like, I guess you can
have one million dollars? What kind of card is this?
Is this a level of American Express that I can't understand, Like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
The MX Black card for Journey and it's meant to
be like, oh, our hotels are travel, our meals, our
do do do our expenses as a band? And then
he went off piece to my love and he went
a little crazy.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
So shown is also coming after Cain's wife for being
involved with the group's finances. And this is where we
go deeper down the rabbit hole. Who is Cain's wife? Oh, well,
she's Paulo White, donald Trump's spiritual advisor, who recently was
like and Donald Trump is just like the president. I'll

(51:58):
play something from the Easter Lunch like Jesus. I'll play
something from the Easter lunch that happened yesterday at the
White House, and this is what the this is what
the keyboard is from. Journey's wife was saying about Donald Trump.
But as I prayed, it was like the Holy Spirit
just zoned me in and said, tell President Trump how
thankful you are for him? And I think, oh, the

(52:19):
Holy Spirit. Oh, that's the wife of the keyboard player
of Journey right now. Okay, she is like one of
the main people who whispers sweet Jesus nothings into Donald
Trump's year and tells them You're gonna go to heaven.
Don't worry about all the horrible shit you did, You're
gonna go. And again. There's been a number of disputes
between the two band mates, which usually involves Cain's maganess.

(52:43):
So in twenty seventeen, Neil Showan complained that Cain and
others in the group post for a photo with Trump
at the White House. Twenty twenty two, Cain performed Don't
Stop Believing at mar A Lago with the Marjorie Taylor Green,
Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Carrie Lake.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
And that's the most egregious one of all of it.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Don't stop believing with that trio of freaks. Yeah maybe, yeah, probably.
And then Cain has also he's been explaining that he's
a Christian and that journey has pleased the Lord. This
is what he said. Being a Christian, I would say,
God has his hand on this band, and we have
pleased him. We have pleased the Lord. That's why I'm
here because I know when I walk on that stage,

(53:22):
I'm not going out there alone. I don't care. It
has nothing to do with politics or anything partisan. I
believe in policy and what I stand for because it
affects my life, It affects my taxes, it affects anyway.
So he was talking about it. I used to be
a Democrat.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Fucking piece of shit, right when person is when they
bring up taxes, this is the very first thing they
care about. Yeah, of course, I'm like, oh, okay, so
that's the number one problem for you. Are you looking
around at all? What's yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:48):
What shouldn't like wealthier letting like billionaires and stuff be
paying more taxes. I don't know about all that.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
You know, it's hard.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
And then also Cain made a solo musical tribute to
Charlie Kirk last year called no One Else.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
No I can't.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
It's like it's just it's too much. It's like what
it's what are what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
We're pleasing the Lord.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
We're pleasing the white supremacists, We're doing.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
It all, making a you know, a tribute to Charlie Kirk.
It's just like I understand, like I would kick him
out of the band. I would just be like, hey,
like you can have your political meanings, but like this
is not this is working for us as a band.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
But here's the problem. Greta and they have thought of this.
Cain and Shown co owned the Journey trademark. Therefore they
cannot fire each other. They are stuck together like they're that's.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Actually kind of a great premise for a film.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Yeah, yeah, they got some really good idea.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
To like septagenarian like kind of flamed out arena rock
band guys like.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Like guest or somebody.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. The thing is though too, there's
also there's more drama. Right, So Steve Perry, who like
sang on all the hits, hasn't been part of the
band like thirty years, and they replaced him like fifteen
is years ago. I remember this when they found this
Filipino dude on YouTube who was just killing it at
karaoke doing Journey covers.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Wait, I think I remember that too, which is also
a fascinating tale.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Yeah, and it's also a movie rock Star.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Oh? Yeah, with Mark.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Walberg, Mark Wahlberg, very rock star.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah, this is the guy he talks about how he
was going to like, here's a clip of him singing
with the band, just so you can kind of hear
what the guy's name is, Arnelle Pineda you know you anyway?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Wow, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Patty just played a little bit of a clip that way.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Then all I gotta say, I'm confused that the right
wingers let like an Asian person in their band.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Well. I think that's where the one guy, the Caine
was probably like, Bro, this guy can actually sing, and
the lord he's like, hey are you Christian? My man?
Are right?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
That's where kind of like the the picking and choosing
of racism with them is it's like, oh, this guy
can really sing the songs we want to hear.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
What benefit me financially?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (56:21):
You know what I mean? Yeah, don't don't start talking
about your rights or some shit like that, because this
will be left so this guy too. He In a
recent Rolling Stone piece, the currently this Guy, Arnell Pinada,
the new singer, said that he asked the bandmates that
two other guys. He's like, look, dude, if you're going
to do a farewell tour, you just give me a
heads up so I can like wrap my head around

(56:41):
this because it's kind of stressful. And apparently they just
booked this sixty date tour without even telling him, and
he said in an email to them he was unhappy.
Just merely said I was unhappy, and then they just
ghosted him. He then went on to talk about that
the set list that the two bandmates had planned and
the intermation intermission will quote put his voice in trouble.

(57:03):
And this is what I just want to read this
part of the article quote. As our discussion gets heavier
and heavier, tears begin welling up in his eyes. I
don't know what's going to be their reaction to this interview,
he says. I'm trying to be as honest as possible.
As much as I don't want to offend them, I've
got to be honest. And the singer apparently this guy
tried to quit the band before the tour because of
quote personal problems, and those are being that he was

(57:25):
divorcing his wife and he was accused of quote verbal assaults, manipulation,
and coercive behavior following what she claimed was a long
period of him committing adultery, and it became like a
huge thing in the Philippines, and the band won't let
him quit because the promoter's contract with the band quote
stipulates that this tour cannot go forward without RNL Pineda.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
This literally always comes back to Ticketmaster, the most evil
thing of.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
All I know.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
And those quotes from those guys that came out a
few weeks ago, I was like, had this is the
most evil entity?

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. They're like, we can't confirm or
deny that we mean to really ticket prices. Okay, I
mean we do.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Sorry, But also like damn, Like I hated that that
man was just singing covers on YouTube and now he's
just enslaved.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Also singing covers, getting this opportunity, getting this opportunity, being like,
oh my god, this is my dream, Like this is
changing my life.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And then it's like nightmare.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Yeah, he's like, dude, one guy keeps telling me about
how Jesus is shepherding us to show, to show we're
pleasing the Lord. We're pleasing the Lord. It's like, dude,
I'm just trying to just a small town girl. That's
all you got to do.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Many And it is really fucked up that they would
book him for sixty shows that he has to sing.
I mean, I think that's journey songs for like this
man who was a YouTube guy. He's not prepared for this.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
He's not tailors. They've done it, but they toured a
ton like with him at the front and it went
really well, like years ago. But I think that's why
he's like, if this is done, just let me know.
And I think also he just goes to show how
like the exploitation, you know, sort of that those habits
are still in those bandmates who are just like, yeah, dude,
as long as we got the brown guy that sings, man,
just tell them where to be and he'll be there

(59:20):
and we get our money, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I would also just like to say, and I am
not I want to preface this by saying I am
not coming for Taylor swift and what I'm about to.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Say, I am not I love this wind up ye I.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
But Journey songs, Journey songs from a vocal perspective, are
way more challenging Taylor No Ship Journey Songbook and like
their vocal strain that those rifts.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Have like that.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Yeah, it's just crazy. Yeah, like you're melting those things out. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, it's incredible. It's not a power. It's like it's
like Adam Lambert when he took over for Freddie Mercury.
It's like you have to have the fucking chops. Yeah,
to say any of those songs that man literally had
like a scientifically different mouth and shit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
He was just basically saying this is what he said
specifically with the set list in his voice, so that
the plan. The plan was for a two hour long
set list with an intermission in between, and he said
the break intermission quote puts my voice in trouble. It's
like a car where you go full speed and then
you have to stop, and then you're full speed. I
also worry the fans will mellow and it kills the
momentum of the show, which is a good point here

(01:00:38):
is literally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, when you do shows, when you do like some venues,
if you do an hour of comedy, they want you
to take an intermission so that people can like go
to the bar or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
And I'm always like, I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I know because it first of all, the momentum does
get fully sucked out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
That is huge because it's not like lineup just is
whatever you put together a lineup. So the wind up
to the headliner is a specific thing, and that's what
the feature is there for the host is therefore, like
if you are doing all that work and then someone's like, okay,
everyone go do something else, yep, and then I come
back with the same energy never.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Yeah, well, I mean I think that's the problem when
both your bandmates are in their seventies, so that's they
can't hang with the young r NOL dude. Jonathan Cane's
seventy six years old. Okay, so yeah, you might have
trouble because you're definitely gonna have to take a pee
break so or whatever, a prayer break, whatever he needs
to keep it going. Either way, gretit titleman, it's been

(01:01:41):
great having you on the daily ZiT guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
See, I was just doing a deep dive.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
I was what did you get? What did you get?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I was just google what is the most stream song
on Spotify?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Because I was like, you know, Don't Stop Leaving has
two point eight billion streams and I think I knew?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Do you guys? Do you want to guess with the
number one most dream song is on Spotify?

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Is it something by Well? It used to be Bieber.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
And then Taylor Swift for a minute too, But is
it bad Bunny?

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Is it the Weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
It is?

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
It's the Weekend?

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Which song?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Blinding Lights?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Blinding Lights?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
It has five point three five billion streams? And then
the second song, this is gonna It's kind of a shocker.
It's kind of a shocker to me. Anybody want to
guess who the second artist is?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Give us a hit?

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Ginger from Oh My God, I said, Prince Harry and she.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
And Prince Harry AKA and Shearon coming in at number
two with shape of You.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I mean that is a bop. But this is very strange.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
But this song, I don't know. Number three is Sweater
Weather by the Neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Oh wow?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Is it one of those like tweet bands from like
imagine Dragon's era. Yeah, when we hear it, well know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
It when you hear it. You know. Here I'll play
a section of it justin you don't have to play
this because they're going to sue us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
But here this is, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Can you believe that's the number three most stream.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Song on spot I can't because most people don't know ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I can't. This is a very random sampling. Greta, you're correct,
Thank you? What's for?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
It was star Boy by the Weekend featuring Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
So somehow the weekend own Spotify?

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I mean those he's got he got that dental off
his music.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Maybe on the Monday episodes of ihole Icons, I say,
idle thinking of the weekend's idol of icons deep dive
is the weekend and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Oh yeah, we'll find out after this, gretit title man.
Thank you for joining us. Where do the people find you?
Follow you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
My goodness? Follow me, I you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Follow me on the sort of amazing platform Instagram at
girdie bird. You know. On there you can see picks,
you can see stories, I will post about my shows,
and that's really fab.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Should we get more active on TikTok?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Probably, you know, but but you know, follow me on Instagram,
But most importantly, get tickets to see me in New
York City on May six at Union Hall, and then
come see me in DC. Please for real, come see
me in DC. I have a lot of shows in
DC May and May ninth, and it's my hometown, so
I need my hometown hotties to sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Come out support support the arts.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Is there a work of media, Greta, you're liking social
media posts or otherwise anything?

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yes? Is there work of media liking? Wow? Gosh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
You know, well, there's like there are niche grannies that
post their outfits on TikTok that I really enjoy, And
I'll shout.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Out one that I saw the other day. And I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I'm gonna preface this by saying, I don't know this
woman's political leanings. Yeah, yeah, but on TikTok, and her
name is Mickey, go go, she's eighty years old.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Okay, oh Mickey.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Yeah, she's just kind of posting sort of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
A fabulous sorry she's eighty two. She's eighty two and outrageous, so.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
You know, go go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah. I'm just like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I mean she's wearing an apron that says, well cook
for shoes. I mean, I couldn't relate, couldn't relate to
something more. So I've been enjoying Mickey Go Go. And
you know, I've also been enjoying watching.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
There Rurray McElroy documentary.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Oh okay, okay, what's that on?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
It's on HBO, my husband I love. I am a
sucker for sports docks me too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
It makes it easier to get invested when it's presented
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I say, it's like my gateway drug to like any sport.
I'll watch the documentary shit, and I'm like, Okay, now
I guess I like football. I guess now I like wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I view myself as I have an athlete. It's MoMA mentality,
you know. So it's like when I I don't watch
the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But I like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I like the intensity of athletes, and it's why I
love hard knocks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
It's why I love to watch any.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Sort of Did you watch The Last Dance the Jordan? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I loved that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Amazing, how how broken Michael Jordan is as a person.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
So helps the one where it's like students in that college.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Oh yes, I wait, football.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Players, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Oh last chance you last Yes, Yeah, there's a basketball
one too that's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yeah, and I watched some golf ones that were really
good too, and I don't even fuck with golf.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
The Rory one is about him finally winning the Masters, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
It really moved me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Okay, okay, thanks for that, Greta. Uh, Sophia, what about you?
Where do the people find you? And what's some work
in media you're liking?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I am at the sofia on instagram s o f
I y A. The work that I'm liking currently is
I'm reading this book about SNL. Louren by Susan Morrison,
and there's parts of it that have made me laugh

(01:07:46):
so hard just to myself, not like jokes, but just
people stuff, and I just highly recommend it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Oh wait, I have one more thing I wanted to
mention that my little peanut brain didn't even think about.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Go ahead, brain.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Julio Torres's new special Color Theories Ho is really incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Everyone should watch that. That watch that. You can have complete.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Opposite experiences that and then watching Rory play golf.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
So watch Julio do his thing. Watch for you know
what I'm saying, do it all.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Yeah, Sophia, that was you you got yours? That was it? Okay?
Well you can find me and Sofia talking about ninety
Day Fiance on four to twenty Day Fiance. Guess what
happens on that show? And also we're talking about me
and Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. We're talking about soccer
English football on eight it's footy. Check that show out.
It's a new show. It's just even if you don't

(01:08:39):
like soccer, we're just having a really good time. And
plus Chris is from England, so you get an English
accent in there for good measure. It's all fun, fun fun.
A work in media I'm liking is from this dude
on Instagram who's a comedian. I guess is what they say,
Evan Berger. Hey underscore Berg. And this video is called
Obama as a sushi sushi chef, and I gotta say

(01:09:03):
it's simple, but I appreciate it. Obama as a sushi chef?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Oh my god, why is that so bad?

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Yo? I'm sorry the Japanese speaker, I'm like, you fucking
that was it? You did it? That was brawless, no notes,
you did.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
It so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Oh man, thank you, thank you for that one. I
didn't know I needed that, but anyway, Uh, you can
find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can find
us everywhere at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist
on Instagram. You can go to the description of the
episode where you're listening now and they're at the bottom.
You'll find the footnotes thank you, which is where we

(01:09:48):
link off to the information we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song. I think you're gonna enjoy.
The song we're gonna go out on is I Want
You by Ray Laurel. It's from the album called Music
for Lovers. It's I got a real fun like kind
of indie rock pop kind of vibe, like if you
like Steve Lacy, you'll dig this one, or like I'm
falling in love with every man every woman. I mean,

(01:10:08):
it's like a fun song. So I Want You but
W A N T C h U I Want You
by Ray Laurel. Check that out. The Daily Zeitgeist is
a production of iHeartRadio. So for more podcast from My
Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever
you get these shows for free. That's gonna do it
for us this week We'll be back tomorrow with the
best of the Weekly Zeitgeist. Come in to you on

(01:10:29):
a Saturday, and then back Monday with more icons. Until then,
Bye bye no.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Law, co
produced by Bae Wag, co produced by Victor Wright, co
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