Kid Rock X RFKJr X Explosion Wipe, Are You (Piven) Experienced? 02.19.26

In episode 2009, Jack and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by comedian, actor, and host of Podcast But Outside, Andrew Michaan, to discuss… RFK Jr. And Kid Rock Team Up For Workout Video/Cringe Comedy Masterclass, We Need to Talk About Piven Experience, The Epstein Files Just Derailed Jimmy Fallon’s Pasta Sauce Plans and more!

1. RFK Jr. And Kid Rock Team Up For Workout Video/Cringe Comedy Masterclass
2. ‘What the [bleep] did I just watch?’ RFK Jr. posts workout video with Kid Rock urging Americans to ‘get active’
3. Conservatives trying to put Tim Heidecker out of a job.
4. Another Controversial Stance From RFK Jr: Working Out in Jeans
5. Inside Kid Rock's Massive White House Replica with Golden Urinal
6. Kid Rock RFK Rock Out Work Out Has Dropped And We’ll Never Be The Same
7. The Epstein Files have smashed Jimmy Fallon’s spaghetti sauce dreams
8. Jimmy Fallon Kills Planned Pasta Sauce Line With Pal Tommy Mottola as Epstein Friendship Is Revealed
9. This is the trademark for the sauce venture that Jimmy Fallon and Tommy Mottola were launching
10. Soon Yi Previn Shades Fallon in Epstein Files Email
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12. Awkward Moment Between Paris Hilton And Jimmy Fallon Highlights The Absurdity Of NFTs
13. Celebrity Promoters Sued Over Bored Ape NFT Endorsements
14. Xochitl Welcomes Jimmy Fallon as an Investor and Brand Partner
15. Helen Mirren and Pierce Brosnan Try Jimmy's Celebrity Tomato Salsa, Talk The Thursday Murder Club
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
The last the last time I saw him, he was
up there being like, yeah, so I took I took
shrooms and I don't want to stop. And then what
he was describing was micro dosing mushrooms. I was just like,
why are you gonna be so aggro about it? Man? Yeah,
that's right, that's so funny. I guess I'm a little
fucked up. I took shrooms.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I just wandered into the I wandered into the forest,
and I just started eating ship. It's like, right, have
you guys discovered shrooms? About the fuck you did?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Your people have been have been dying in California because
there's like a super bloom of death cap mushrooms that
they're just eating in the forest.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Death cap for Cutie, death cat for Cutie.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's good, that's a wind. That's a win for polyby
points points uh. And also that does sound like us.
That does sound like California. Yeah, it's natural. It grows
from the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Microplastics are natural.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
They come from the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four to twenty six,
episode three of Dear d Alley z Eigeist. It's a
production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a
deep dive into American share consciousness through the day's news.
We also have a new non news history version of
TDZ dropping every Monday morning, where we do a deep
dive into the zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon.

(01:39):
Last week we did Tony Hawk. This week, Oh, that's
so sick. It is so sick. We caught so much
fucking air.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Hell yeah, he's going to be on the right side
of the race war dude.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, And I guess we didn't do the thing that
we usually do where we ask would this icon be
on the steam lists if they were around. It's kind
of you know, with him, he had the opportunity to
be on it, and I'm pretty sure he's not. So
congratulations to Tony Hawk on that.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I feel like he would have.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
He would have he would have peacefully Norm funkelsteined. He
would have been like fuck no.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
This week we had Andrew Tea on to uh look
at the very strange history of the character Sherlock Holmes,
the original the original Bad Lieutenant. If you've seen like
the Harvey Kaitel like Bad Lieutenant, that that's Sherlock Holmes
was was on coke baby.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I like the Mormon the Mormon story.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Mormon stories were and I was like, this is
probably what more. Yeah, A few people know the first
Sherlock Holmes novel. Brigham Young is a character in that
novel and in my life. Oh you've you're you've been
saved good. Yes, obviously those episodes are on Monday with
icon and the title and the iconograph lo go. It

(03:00):
is Thursday, February nineteenth, twenty twenty six. My name's Jack
O'Brien aka slow Seep. I know what your thin and
a constant leak and stink and it just counts as
one big fart. That is a don't sleep? Is that
the name of that No Doubt song? But that was

(03:23):
blinky heck, A speak, don't speak. That's the one. It's
been a while, been a while, blinky heck. In reference
to the story we just covered where scientists created smart
fart catching underwear that measures the number of times people far.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Today surveillance state no thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
That was what the ring camera super Bowl ad was
originally supposed to be given your butts and they were like, God,
you guys fart way more than we were expected.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Every day we rescue one fart from the streets.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
But I'm gaming the system by doing one slow, sleeping
fart all day long, so I don't have as many
parts as everybody else in your face. That explanation has
been officially certified as worth it by the Podcast Association
of America. I'm thrilled to be joined in our second
seat by a hilarious stand up comedian, writer, actor, improviser.

(04:21):
You can see her at her monthly show Second Screens,
Second Screens and Facial Recognition Comedy. It's polonium, pobbi, guala.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
All the sites.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I'm not gonna keep doing it, but you get it.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Ever since this morning, you've had a song in your heart?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I have, and it's from only canceled artists.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I mean, are there any other type these days? Am I? Right?
You guys? I mean, come on, hey, we're gonna talk
about Jimmy Fallon even.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh that.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, he even. He's being painted by the Epstein files
in a very roundabout way. But first, Paul d thank
you so much for joining us. We're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian actor
you've seen in the classic Insider Trading Brian's Hat Courtroom
sketch from I Think You should leave performing stand up

(05:23):
on stages and televisions across this great land. The host
of the Wonderful Show podcast but outside it is Andrew Maha.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yes, thank you for having me one of the zeits.
I'm going to do a slightly less you know, encompassing
version of the song that Bobby sang and yeah, happy
to be here, Jimmy Fallon. It sucks when the funniest
guy around gets taken down, you know, it really sucks.
Where am I gonna laugh?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now? How you guys? Where do we find our laughs? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Where how can we laugh as a country?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Where he's still at the guys don't like I don't.
I don't want people to think he is not mentioned?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Little isn't he in the Horatio.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Files in there? Why don't we stop talking about that?
That was weird?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So that's a very good question, Andrew, you do uh?
Are you are giving this? Maybe this could be like
a filter that you sell, but you are really giving
uh that you are podcasting?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
But outside right now, I know I can't think is
there's just the light is just coming in from at.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Night and it actually follows him so it's kind of.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, I have an exclusive deal with the Sun and yeah,
it's a contractual thing. I can't escape it.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yes, and I am assuming you keep telling us you're
not outside because you're obligated.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I just have a horse in the background.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Horse.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
He is potty trained. He stays inside. He uses the toilet,
going in a litter box. Yea worse litter boxes. And
the and the pieces of gravel are very big. It's
like giant rocks.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
They're actually pieces of ship themselves.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, his letter box is full of cat ship in
those little clubs. That's what they do with the cat
litter box they make.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Of course, all right, Andrew, we're thrilled to have you here.
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in the moment. First we can tell the listeners about
the stuff we're talking about today. We got a couple,
got a couple of big ones. First of all, RFK
Junior and Kid Rock we have decided to team up.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
They more iconic couple.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
They were really like maxing out their viral embarrassment for
the past week, where with Kid Rock just kind of
whipping the White Supremacy halftime show and then RFK Junior
just continue to live his truth, talking about ripping lines
off toilet seats and other things. They decided to do

(08:08):
the collab that we all were waiting for and released
what's called Secretary Kennedy and Kid Rocks rock Out work
Out because they're good at wordplay. And I don't know,
have you guys watched the video.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's all I've watched.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's so good.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
My eyes carved themselves out of their sockets.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, your eyes committed suicide.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Like a real monsters. They just pulled themselves out. No
one gets no one gets the reference. Okay, moving on
a real monsters. Have you not seen that Nickelodeon show
How Old are You? Jack?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Okay, Catherine got it? Thank you? Justin sit in silence.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
I just don't appreciate you making fun of our health
secretary and our musician in chief. The musician in chief
good rock.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's right, very apt title based on some things I
learned from from this article. We also, I do want
to talk about the pivot experience. This is more just
like a an offer to our listeners really that we
don't We don't usually do sponsor content, but there is
an opportunity coming up on in April twenty fifth, twenty

(09:19):
twenty six, that I think everybody should know about where
you can engage in Pivot experience. It's not called the
Pivot experience. It's called Pivot experience.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
It's like the Renner app kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
But in in real physical space.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Since they're both named Jeremy, but that's I think it's
pretty different.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, and then we will get to the glancing blow
that Jimmy Fallon caught from the Epsteam files because one
of his one of his best friends is uh is
implicating Trump.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Jeff Jeffy dude, my friend Jeffrey Epstein. I just found
out I was in the Epstein But it is rock
social circle.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
He was top eight on. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It is so wild how many people are in there
being like, Jeffrey, you are my very best friend, like
just sending three emails a day.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean yeah, if if it wasn't a dead pedophile,
he could definitely write a book about how to like,
you know, win friends and influence people. You know for
sure quite good at it.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
It was literally one page and it just says black.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Maid, yeah, black man. It is also like it does
because so many of the times people are like, how
do you, like, how do I rehab miamate? Like the
very person they'd be reaching out to for getting canceled
for this is Jeffrey Epstein. And now it's like like,
I bet they're getting like you know, you know, like

(10:56):
phantom like when you get a phantom phone buzz, you're
like expecting a call. I bet they're like getting that
because they're like, bet Jeff's going to reach out.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
They're like checking their notifications.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
They're like on how to respond to the Jeffrey Epstein
scandal that I'm embroiled in.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Just and the dentist would have reached out.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
It's just so funny, like the paper trail and everything,
Like if I was like doing illegal stuff with friends,
I wouldn't like email them every time afterwards, like hey man,
that was awesome doing that diabolical stuff with you, illegal stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Murder the attachment, Yeah, one of the guys who actually
did get in trouble the chic or he's from another
let me see a Sultan Ahmad beIN solimm Slium once
had one email exchange in twenty thirteen, where's where Jeffrey

(11:54):
Epstein said, you are one of my most trusted friends
in the in the very of the word, you have
never let me down. And then he replied, thank you,
my friend, I am off the sample a fresh one
hundred percent female Russian at my yoh yeah, just like
the fuck. Kind of like bad villain writing, is that?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean, it's the writing of people who knew that
they would never be held accountable.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
They're like, here are all the receipts, watch me still
be president.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
All right, best friend off to commit horrible crimes against humanity,
all right, Before we get to any of that shit, uh, Andrew,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
I was. I was searching myself actually in the Epstein Frials,
just to make sure I wasn't in there, just because
it's like it seems to have Yeah, I need I
need to redo my last name.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
No, I'm in there a lot.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
They just misspelled my last name. It doesn't go out.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, I got enough my last name. It always fuck.
Yeah you're not Yeah, yeah's helpful. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
I was just searching because you know, I do you know,
I don't remember a lot from the twenty tens, and
I do feel like it's possible. I was friends with
all these people and I wasn't. I just but I
just wanted to check, so I did check.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Congratulations. That must be a big relief for you.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh. He also does that with every released manifesto. It's
like getting old.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Andrew Surger yourself in the Unbomber manifest Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I just thought thought I would be mentioned. I thought
I thought I might have influenced him.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I don't know. I mean, guy makes some good points. Uh,
what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (13:39):
I've been playing a lot of Magic the Gathering lately.
Oh man, I think I think people should play that.
I know a lot of people who you know, like
board games and chess and stuff, when they think magic
is maybe too complicated. But it's it's not that hard
to learn the basic rules and then you could add
on things to it. I think it's the best game
ever made. It's really fun, the best.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Game ever mad like that you reference it as magic,
just just as magic magic together.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
I said Magic the Gathering. I said magic togethering, I think.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
And the last one you were like, well, if it's
too complicated, magic, and I was like, oh magic, Yeah, well,
it's like that. It's like it's MTG, right. I always
confuse it with Marjorie Taylor Cream. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, there's a lot of crossover. There's a lot of crossover.
That's really.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The development of margin was like, fuck, we change our name.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
What do you think our generation? I'm grouping you into
our generation. Yeah. Yeah, Jack just looks like that and
I'm kidding, I'm getting you're a handsome young boy. Do
you think our generation it was like the most popular
for our generation. I feel like it it was like

(14:56):
hit really hard when I was like in middle school.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, I know, me too, and I didn't play it
back then. Yeah, it was definitely popular the nineties. But
I feel like it's even more popular now. But I
do know a lot of people who are hesitant to
try it because they think it's too overwhelming. But if
you like board games and you like any type of
like strategy thing that tickles that party of brain, magic
does it in a way that's unlike anything else I've
ever encountered. That's r There you go.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you're saying it's more popular now than it's ever been.
So that's what I've heard as an outsider. I remember
it being played in high school by high school kids.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
I still play a lot of high schools. Yeah, I
go to a lot of high schools, and it's great.
I mean that's also a great way to meet friends,
and it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
I play mostly online now, just because it's how.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You got in the sc He someone to keep an
eye with the kids, someone who's got talent. He's like
this young guy who's got some real promise. Yea, yeah,
I mostly play online. There's like an app you can
play on, but playing in person is fun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I guess in my head it's always spend physical cards,
Like I thought that was like the big thing about it.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
But I guess you can play online now.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's still a big part of it. But you can
play online and just see if it's for you. Yeah,
do you have like a crew that you do it with?
Are you going in you know? Well, I is it
like I used to do more. I used to do more,
and I did buy some cards recently to try to
get more into that, but lately I've just been playing
online and it's just it just makes it easier, and
you don't I play with random strangers and randoms. Unfortunately,

(16:26):
there's no like communication. You can't like text each other
or say any words. It's just like playing the game.
But it's fun. Oh really yeah, it's a little bit dry.
There's not like a social element to it unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Like even in chess when you're playing online you can
send little messages back and forth, like the trash talk sucks.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
By the way, there are bad but there are like
five preset things you can say like hello, sorry, good game,
and that's about it.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
But you can't. You can't. You can't. We don't think. Yeah,
it's probably better, like for the better in the long run.
Maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, there's some slurs. There's some slur is on there
as well, that's.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
On the cards.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's cool. I'm glad. I'm glad
to hear that it's still out there, that people are
still having it good. What is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Okay, I think that learning new slang is overrated. I
think I think that the slang that you use should
be representative of your age. I don't think you need
to say let's fucking go if you are forty years old.
I just feel like you use the slang you learned
when you were younger. I think slang should be I

(17:34):
think you hear someone speak slang and you know their age.
I don't like older people using newer slang.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I think that's cool being let us fucking.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
God see I like that, Bobby, Yeah you got it,
that is cool beings. I just feel like because I,
you know, and that's tea you know, ultimately.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
And ultimately, And I'm sure I'm guilty of this as well,
but I do think it is the appropriation. I get
so mad when they're like, it's gen z slang and
like black people have been saying it for forty years.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Right could, but it's just it's always it's always looked
on in a negative like like you know, the like
Pokemon go to the polls, which obviously wasn't something anyone
even said, but like.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's always all the time.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I guess you're right, but it's just always embarrassing when
older people try to use new slang. And I don't
think you need to, you know, I think you can
just use the slang like, you know, we can still
say things are tight. That's fine, that's our that's our culture,
you know. I don't think we need to add new stuff.
Tight was good keep it up.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
But then how do you communicate with younger generations? How
do you translate the text?

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Why do you need to?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Because when we go to the island, oh fuck, oh
ship there we go?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
The only reason, the only reason people use new slaying
is to deep files.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
That is how we should anyone know what that is?

Speaker 4 (18:58):
That's right, that is the beat generation called tea, called
weed tea.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I just feel like I see a lot of older
people really trying hard to use young saying and I
don't think you need to. I just don't think it's necessary.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
The Guardian has an article that's getting pasted around this
morning about clavicular God and the headline the disturbing rise
of Clavicular how a looks max Er turned his horror
story into fame there.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Like that, do you like isself in the face with
a hammer, Like?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
What what is he?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
All I've seen is him being talked about. What is
he explaining?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's like a weird he makes First of all, he
makes fifty seven thousand dollars a year and think that's
I thinks that's a lot.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
And then it's like he's.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Like isn't that great? And he's like he's like in
the weird kind of the kickstreaming like young men. He
literally is like trying to look max. He thinks that
looks or the end all be all to everything. He
hid himself in the face with a hammer to change
his drawl line. He also ran over a man live

(20:10):
on stream. I don't know if that guy died, but
like it was like insane.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
It was insane. He's like this weird He's like what
twenty twenty man.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
He sounds like he's manslaughter maxing a little too. It's
unclear if he's manslaughter masking or gesture maxing. He is hot, though,
right is he hot?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like I saw one? He seems hot?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Right, You've got to.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Stop saying these children are.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
I just mean it's like twenty no, no, I just
mean it's not like he's like he like people regard
him as attractive, right, So that's like part of his thing,
I think.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
But I think he's like built himself into that. I
think he's just like a white boy, like you know
what I mean. I think that's his whole thing.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's uh. He's also said that he uses meth to
cut weight, and I know, which is a culture.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
We've all been doing for years and to help his addiction.
Did he did the did the hammer thing work? Did
he get like better?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't think any of this is real, by the way,
Like I don't. I think we would. I think he
would be under arrest if he had actually hit that
guy with his car.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You don't think that was real.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
It seems I thought that that was like a guy
who was like a stalker. I thought he did have
to go.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I don't know. I mean, maybe this this is based
on very little knowledge, but just everything I've heard, it
seems like he's like I have taken so many steroids
that I'm now infertile. And it just seems like he
like says ship to like make the wildest character possible essentially,

(21:50):
And but I don't I haven't watched the video where
he allegedly runs over somebody.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
With Also, maybe he didn't know his name is Braiden.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Peters.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Braiden Peters, Yeah, Braiden.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
That's the first first thing of h looks Max and
is change your name if it's Braden.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
He called Gavin newsomit Chad. So that's cool, is it?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I don't know what's happening all right, let's take a
quick break. We need to reset. We will be back
to talk about to Alpha Alpha Matt, I don't know.
Two heroes, RFK Jingor and Kid Rock will be right back.

(22:41):
And we're back.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
We're back.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're back, and two of are faves of the past
couple of weeks. RFK Jr. Who is supposed to be
the symbol of health and seems to be the most
unhealthy person on the planet, just like it seems like
his whole body is a hacking him. It's like he
has the same that Joe Rogan thing. I was talking

(23:05):
about it yesterday's episode, where like if like usually people's
heads don't just explode, but like if someone's head worked
to explode, I feel like it would be Joe Rogan
or RFK Junior. They just both seem like they're like
heads are bursting with like knowledge, blood and not so

(23:28):
much knowledge.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And now you're definitely outside. There's a fucking bush behind you.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I finally did come outside. My girlfriend has a meeting
and she was like, ere being too loud, and I
was like, these guys are just too fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
We're pod maxing.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Are you gonna take that? It's fine, I accept it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I accept it. Not the the Sigma I know would
not accept that sort of thing. Sigma is Sigma good.
I think Sigma's good. Right, is Sigma good better than alpha?

Speaker 5 (24:08):
It's better.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Alpha is better than beta. But Sigma, I think is.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
The best guys Sigma mindset.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
We're doing the exact thing that we were talking about.
But I think alphabet I think being open about the
fact that it sucks is probably a first step. I
so RFK Junior seems to be just transparently undermining the
thing that he's supposed to be known for, which is

(24:37):
health and uh doing a White Supremacy halftime show that
was immediately undermining the very idea of white supremacy. Was
they're they're both killing it. They're both just.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Uh, something is definitely dying, and I hope it's not
the worm and his that's right.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So they decided to get together. I think they I
think they both knew they were going to have a
big month, and they thought it was going to be
like big in the other direction. And so they they
have like filmed this already. This is not a lot
that is so funny.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Are you saying he like lip synced to this video too. Yes,
I think so amazing.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
They were.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
They were like, we gotta, we gotta get a collab
out there, Secretary Kennedy x Kid Rock, and so their
online workout video begins with them proudly posing shirt lists,
followed by a montage of sharks, fighter jets, and bears
all in front of an American flag, and that title

(25:40):
sequence is intercut with Kid Rock serving a steak dinner
next to a flower arrangement and Senator Kennedy or whatever,
Secretary kit whatever the fuck rf kids you and you're
sitting there eating it in a tie.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
I also have to say I feel bad for Bubby's
sauerkraut because that is the brand of sauerkraut that I
do eat, and it did unfor get familiar in this video.
I just I don't love that. I don't think they really,
you know, agreed to that kind of placement.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I hope not.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
And I just want to say, like, you can still
buy Bubbies. It's okay, it doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I do need to know their politics now.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
I need to know.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Statement what Bubby, your silence is deafening first time.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Also him he's serving a steak dinner, so he's not
like I don't like it's a thing of him handing
it across a counter to RFK Junior. I don't know
that he's the chef who's making the culinary decisions here,
but I would guess he's not. I would guess he
has people who make whatever, like scrambled eggs and jelly

(26:49):
concoction that he's he's eating on a daily basis, but
and Saraka and sarakraft. But then there's shots of them
posing in a parked car in front of what appears
to be the embalmed corpse of Macho Man Randy Savage.
If you if you look closely, it's like it's like
the Zoltar or whatever that the like wish wish thing

(27:12):
is from Big you know, but it's macho man Randy
Savage or Guy Fieri in a wig and like.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
A extent guy theory with extensions extensions.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, that they're just like hanging out in a car.
It's really like it's such a weird it's a weird space.
I would say this is a lot of weird spaces.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
It's like it feels like a like weird like like
a rich person's like ski ski cabin in the nineties,
but it's just like never updated.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But it's like recer inside. It's like a panic It's
like Republicans made a panic room. We need everything we
need all in one spot. I need macho man.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
It looks like someone trying to decorate, like a symbol
of pro Shop, using only interior decorators who happen to
be teenage boys. And then I never been outside of
the year nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
They're like, what would those guys from Entourage low?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yes, that's right. Yeah, there's also like nineteen eighties arcade
cabinets and stuff like that next to the Yeah, next
to them, and then they get much and then they
get up and then they're hanging out they start lifting.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Is that fire transition real?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh yeah, there's a fire transition? That is the realist
fire trap? Do you mean like did they actually light
something on fire?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
No? Did they put it? It's like a star swipe,
but like un ironically.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Unironically, like big big time, like get rid of so disturbed.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I want to stand up and move, and then I
just appear next to Andrew in his backyard.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
What are the lyrics? What are the lyrics of the
song by the way that they're singing is all you
bastards at the irs. It's like you are the r
you were working for the way.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
There's a reveal at the end that they're doing this
inside Kid Rock's house, which is a replica of the
White House. That's like what he thinks is cool. But yeah,
so there's a.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Mass building a wonderful ballroom.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
There's a massive fiery explosion, which like I had to
leave the room because I still have the instincts of
the people who are watching that first train movie, you know,
where they like ran out of the they're so scared.
But yeah, fire transition to just two older men doing
a very basic workout and speaking of old timey film.

(29:39):
To make themselves seem tougher, they sped.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Up the video that is so funny.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Makes them look like they're like in a chaplain film.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Rfka Jun you're still in his long fucking gene.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah. So he starts out in like in a shirt.
Then he's working out in like a T shirt and jeans.
Then they start training, hanging out in the sauna training.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And then the next scene they make out it's your
rivalry Republican style. Do people do that?

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Do people work out in saunas. I know these people
are into saunas, but I didn't know you exercised in them.
I thought you just said I've not.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, you're supposed to, just I've never seen. But they're doing.
The exercise they're doing is riding a one of those
old stationary bikes where like the arms go back and forth,
which is so funny, is very funny. And so one
of them is riding that while the other one does
push ups. Kid Rocks push up for him is very bad.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
That he's not buff like I would say RK Junior.
I actually was surprised at how buffy is he. Actually
he's very buff. I mean, as much as we make
fun of him, he does kind of look good. But
Kid Rock looks very scrawmy.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I so RFK Junior loves taking his shirt off.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Why it is also probably on some sort of steroids. Yeah,
definitely on some insane You don't.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Get that body colored naturally like he He is just
a strange glowing pink at all times on all parts
of his body. But he is in the sauna wearing jeans,
which might be the strangest place to wear, uh wear
jeans is in a sauna I don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
He always needs to have something blue in his system.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, that's right. Then they play pickleball, which.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
They tear an a cl.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
The only thing harder to look tough doing besides riding
one of those old timey stationary bikes with the arm
handles that move is probably playing pickleball.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Isn't that a sport for like old people who don't
want to exercise very much?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Why, Like I just I just don't understand the messaging
of the.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
That's the music that's playing.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Why wouldn't they at least be doing basketball or something
that is like a lot of high energy like this
is supposed tonsketball.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I guess you're right that.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Is here.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, that's new album. Too many basketball. White men shouldn't jump.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
It would be like doing lawn bowling in the middle
of a video where you're trying to like show off
howrough you are. Yeah right, I love that.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
There was still another fire transition, So, like all of
these screenshots just.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
In screencabs split up by fire transitions where they're like
and then that room exploded and.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Then oh you thought we killed Kid Rock and RFK
Junior before.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I can't kill these guys, so they go from playing pickleball.
By the way, this kid Rock has a pickleball room
that has a bunch of taxidermied animals and a cardboard
cutout of Bob Ross. Like just the strangest interior decorating decisions.
But I mean, I guess that's exactly what you would expect.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And I'd also need to know Bob Ross's politics if
he's allowing himself to be there.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
It's been dead for many years. Well, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
To know.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
And then we of course cut to them drinking two
glasses of whole.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Milk and in an ice plunge, and I guess it's
a cold plunge, a cold plunge, But like what, like,
I don't understand how you get somebody to poor you milk.
First of all, no one should have milk. Second of all,
I thought we drank all of that in the nineties
and there wasn't any left. Second of all, like, how

(33:35):
do you you're like, miss pour me in my giant
glass of milk in a polar plunge?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, wait, you don't have a milkmaide. You don't have
a milk maade at home?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't don't You gotta get a.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Milk Maade, you said us the horse gallops behind.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
You know that it's whole milk. Specifically because it's spelled
out on the screen as they're drinking it using what
can only be described as the cumfont. That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
But actually it's not spelling on the screen. That's just
their come in the water spelling it out.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
I do think in every form of media from here forward,
whenever anyone's drinking anything, we should label it on screen
that says what it is I want to drinking.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
You know they were like, should we do two percent?
And they're like, no, that's gay, that's too gay.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Only real madrickle four percent milk is gay.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I agree with that. Even the health and wellness influencers
who are FK Junior surrounds himself with are like, we
don't know why he wears jeans. It's very very strange.
To be honest, it confounds me, said Jillian Michaels, the
trainer turned podcast are famous for the biggest Loser well
I can think about is chafing. That's literally the first

(34:53):
thing that comes to my mind. It limits your range
of motion.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I think he's just trying to associate himself He's like, hey,
h hey, do you guys need a racist ad because
I'm already in the jeans. Do you guys we could
talk about my genetics if you guys want.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
He's just trying to like jup them down the Sydney
Sweeney pet. Yeah, it's but he so he works out
in jeans in the sauna, he plays pickleball in jeans,
He goes in a cold plunge in jeans, and then
he jumps in a pool in jeans. Like at that point,
that is a drowning hazard. That's they they tell you, like,

(35:31):
immediately get out of jeans. If you find yourself in
water and jeans, They're like, that will pull you to
the bottom of the water.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Guys, I think he's trying to kill himself. I think
he's been trying to kill himself for a while.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I do think there's something inside his brain. It's like
the part of his brain that the worm hasn't gotten
to yet.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
This is just do you think he fucks in jeans?

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah, he's like, he's like, yeah, he's never knew yet.
So where these did did our time alars go to
pay for this? We must have seen that? Yes, No,
just this whole video, like the production of this right
almost definitely there had to have been somebody, And what
is the okay if they were to describe what the
point of this video is? Is it to get people

(36:15):
to exercise and eat healthy? Like I'm just trying to
understand what the point is is that?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yah?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
But like not in a Michelle Obama way?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, you know what I mean, in something like Better
and Less Black.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I just it's so patently funny. It's like, how could
this in any way inspire someone to be healthy?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I just don't get it. Yeah. Someone pointed out that,
like it seems seems like they're trying to put Tim
Hideker out of a job. Ben clark Center fun Yeah.
Ben Clarkson wrote that on Twitter, and like, honestly, it
is like this is exactly how Tim and Eric's like
version of this would go, like exactly like that, everything

(36:57):
about how they've made it is just an intentionally like
pitch perfect for a Timid an Eric version of this.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
But here's another question. So we are obviously watching this
and laughing, but that's because you know, we have the
Trump Arrangement syndrome and we're liberals, But like, are people
on the other side like being like this is awesome
or does everyone es jerking it right now? Yeah, she's
rubbing one out right now for her man, because like
some stuff you can see you can be like, I

(37:27):
understand from my perspective, I think this is dumb, But like,
are people into this? Like are like I just do
you have any sense of that?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I don't know, I like, are the are there like
elderly people maybe the people who are like still on board,
who are like, man, that kid rock guy, he's he's
kind of new and dangerous because he's like a rapper
and RFK Junior is like goals for them because he's

(37:55):
taken enough steroids to look like he's a fifty five
year old who works out instead of like a seventy
year old. Right, it's out.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
But I think like the inherent ideology of the right
is that they have to like adhere to this thing
where like no matter what their like idols do, it's cool.
So even like a young Republican would be like that's
fucking sick, right, like, because they have to because that's
part of the brand. Like it doesn't matter what the

(38:23):
aesthetic is. It's like if somebody that I've pledged my
allegiance to is doing it, then it's got to be cool.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I've got to just dig in.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
But my favorite thing about them is that they actually
still want us to think it's cool. Like they are
sad when like Donald Trump still is mad about the oscars,
like not like not being nice to him. He's still
like everybody on that side. Ben Shapiro tried to like

(38:53):
launch a Hollywood studio and was like shocked when everyone's like,
your movies suck.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
You know, at least morebius one more time.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Like Kid Rock did that halftime show and then was
like went on like the Fox News you know, media
tour the next day and seems like genuinely shaken by
people's response to his fucked up, terrible performance. Like I
think they really do like it despite like that. That's

(39:25):
why they keep going, is they're trying to get some
in with they they've lost the culture wars, but they
like won't admit it, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But they also they're not self aware in any way,
Like that's that's part of like the methods.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
So they tell themselves. Yeah, they like tell themselves.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
That they're cool and that this is going to be great,
and that they're the best ones to do it because
that's like part of like their fucking derangement. So they're
gonna keep like every failure there they'll have, they'll probably
just like rewrite it in their brain and be like,
it's not my fault, it's their fault. Actually it was great,
blah blah bla, and then eventually they just like are
onto the next thing.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
But in some ways they are winning, i mean in
terms of power, So maybe they even though they see
people making fun of them, they don't really take it in.
I mean, you guys probably talked about that car thing
the other day, right, the like the autos off thing,
that video that they made. Did you talk about that
on the show?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Did you see that video? It was a similar video
to this, where it's just like they made a video
that was like showing you that like they're getting rid
of the thing at a stoplight or your car turns
off to save energy or whatever the hell, yeah god,
And it was just like it was just very cringe
and weird and it was poorly shot, but it's like
and it was put out by like the official White
House account and they're and yeah, it's just so it's

(40:38):
just strange. It's just very strange.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah. Maybe I mean their endgame might just be canceled
the upcoming elections, take over the education distraction, yeah yeah,
yeah yeah yeah. Or and also then this becomes just
like that they change history books and everything so that
people are like, remember those videos, people like those. We've

(41:01):
we actually have no official record of what won the Oscars,
but Ben Shapiro definitely want to back.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
And the kid Rock has like an eight pack in
those usher cuts. You're like, what the what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Was that real?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,
we'll talk about the Pivot Experience, we'll talk about Jimmy Fallon,
and we're back, and did this cross? I never I

(41:36):
never know, you know. I'm on my in my own
little like Twitter social media bubble, but Pivot Experience hit
my feed like a second nine to eleven, a.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Second plane on second even, yeah, nine twelve.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
If you it's I think it's because it's like a
single poster, but at packs in so much information, so
many fonts.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I think if you look closely, you can see a
social Security number. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I think there's seventeen different fonts on this one thing.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Now, that's a comedy flyer fire or.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Some as you probably have already heard, Game Changer Entertainment
presents Pivot Experience April twenty fifth, twenty twenty six. Had
you were where were you when you heard? Did you
guys have plans before this? And I just how easy
were they to cancel?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
I just want to sleep through March April can not
come soon enough. The idea of waiting two plus months
for this, Yeah, friend sent it to me for sure.
He also he's kind of doing the pose of that
that penis COVID guy. You know that guy who kind
of who that that video, that picture that was sent
around to everyone during COVID of the guy who's kind
of like crouching with his penis out anyway whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
That stance.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
He looks like him.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yes, I never thought of him as the penis COVID man,
but I know you're talking about the guy who penis Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
That was a time.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
What were we doing.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
This man's dick around to each other. Has that guy
ever come out and like talked about it? I'm sure
he has.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I think people identify your pandemic was weird.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
That sounds like I didn't even know there was a
camera that sounds like a Jamie Loft this podcast episode. Yeah,
the Jerremy Pivant experience, right, So it's not.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
The Jeremy pivot experience. I'm sorry, Andrew, Jeremy. This is
this is a common mistake. There is no the there
is no Jeremy. It's just called pivoting. But do you
know why.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
It's because they ran out of letters on the fly.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
There there's so much text.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
On like an RB sign.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
They had a certain number of the clock.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, they didn't even have the P and the H
for Philadelphia Restaurant. So it's just Adelphia Restaurant in Deptford,
New Jersey, six thirty to eight thirty pm. Get ready
for an unforgettable night with Jeremy Piven.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Correct, Technically my favorite part is says vip Thin gets
one hundred already seating at the same table as Jeremy Piven.
So yes, it's crazy that for only forty dollars, actually
you can sit at his table, I mean table, how
many seats?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Also, I think we need to pull a fifty cent
and just buy all the ropes around.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yes, I am putting this out there, sorry, just real quick.
I need to make an offer two hour listeners. Oh yes,
anyone who is willing to go to this on April, Oh.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
My god, please by their ticket.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, we'll pay for your ticket. Oh and we will
interview you on the show.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
But like me, fly out. Just I just want you
there as an observer. I don't want you to like,
go I'm weird to Jeremy Piven out, you know, I
just I want you to tell me what is happening, Like,
go in as an observer, just on the inside.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
So it's from six thirty to eight thirty. It's obviously
a lot of food. The VIP tickets. You sit at
the same table as Jeremy Piven. I think, I honestly
think all this is is just eating in the same
restaurant as Jeremy.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
As Jeremy Pitt.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I don't think it's even gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Some secretary is like, you're gonna have dinner. You're gonna
have dinner this day. But that's what's so crazy, because
it's like, if he's sitting at a table, he's not
doing a show, he's just eating dinner.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
But that is actually funnier than his stand up. I
have done.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I've done shows with him. He and like Anne Hayesh
started around the same time, and she actually had like potential,
you know, like she she actually had His was just
like and then me and this celebrity like did this
other fucking thing. It was weird. It was weird, but
she actually had like vulnerability and his like, I was

(46:23):
just like, like, no, everybody knows you're an asshole already, dude,
get off the stage. You don't need to confirm it,
like you have to.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
There are famous assholes in this town of Hollywood that
we were here known for it. He is known to
be such an asshole that like it damaged his career,
Like there are people who like won't come out of
their trailer like for like reasons that like just because
there's like the wrong eminem's or whatever and their trailer

(46:53):
and shit, and like he is known for being difficult,
like to be so difficult that it derails your career
in Hollywood. And there are many other things that you know,
there have been accusations of sexualis to comedy, yes, but
just you also got mercury poisoning from eating too much
sushi allegedly, And then a lot of like industry groups

(47:17):
came out and were like, that's not what happened. That
that you won't get mercury poisoning.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Lovely, there's a steak. Luckily there's a steak option with
the Pivot experience, because that's right sympathetic to the community.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Grilled salmon, black angus sirloin, steak, chicken parme geno with
linguini and penne prima era. Those are your entrees. Starters
are soup of the day, salad, and then you really
get the sense that they ran out of energy as
this thing went on, because for just for then we

(47:51):
go to dessert and it just says included, that's my favorite.
Why you got so many questions that lineup?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
That's incredible openers.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Dessert included, Like they're like, I don't know, man, I'm tired.
We listed five.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Take what we got, Okay, you son a bitch.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Also, the license plate Ari's Ferrari, it's just like, oh,
you know, that's like actually probably his license plate.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
It is, and you will get a free Aris fry
or Ari's Ferrari license plate.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Free license plate?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah? How big?

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Were thinking, Yeah, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Like a giant check.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
It's funny they have in the picture of him looking
like the big Dick Kovie guy. You then just have
his personalized license plate hovering in the air in front
of him, like with nothing seemingly holding it up. So
people are like, this is their insistence on repeatedly reminding

(49:05):
anyone looking at this that it is Entourage's Ari Gold
has to make Piven experience some rage.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
You know, well, I gotta say, I really hope he
comes west and does one at California.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
That would be.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
My favorite restaurant, Aliforia, California dessert include.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
And then just checking in with the epsteam files, there
are people facing consequences for their exposure in the epsteam
files when those consequences are convenient. Like JB. Pritzker's cousin,
Thomas J. Pritzker, a billionaire heir to the Hyatt Hotel's fortune,
stepped down from his role. But he's like seventy five.
He's probably like weeks away from doing this anyways. We

(49:54):
got Peter Atia, who is like the wellness influencer, and
he stepped down from his role as chief science officer
of a protein bar brand, David Protein.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Worst fucking.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Fun I've seen ads for this and I sent a
picture of it to my friend David. But it's like
a year ago, and the ads don't even say protein
by the way, They just say David and then it
has a picture of a protein bar. It's the worst
advertising for her.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So they and also ag One said in a statement
doctor Atia is no longer an advisor to the company.
I do hope David Protein's able to survive without him.
As we mentioned, Sultan augmaed beIN Solim has been fired
and stepped down. One of the least predictable outcomes is

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the death of Jimmy Fallon's line of pasta sauces. This is.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
And that's so crazy because I knew he had apasta
sauce before this for sure.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Well has it come out yet?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I don't want to overuse the comparison to a second
nine to eleven here on this finding out that Jimmy
Fallon and Tommy Mottola's line of pasta sauce.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Fucking insane, the man known for destroying Mariah Carey and
also Tommy Motola show.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
So their pasta sauce line was scheduled for twenty twenty seven,
but those plans have been halted by the fact that
Matola is mentioned more than six hundred times iny Epstein files.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
And I'm fucked because I had already planned out my
meal calendar for all twenty seven and a big part
this pasta sauce.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
So bearing part of my meal plan.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
The whole year's over here.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
David Carr, David Carr, David Arms is a great thing
to say to your friend David get too much car
They were protein more like David carbs over him. So
uh that that has put a halt on the on
the line of pasta sauces. Technically, Fallon is also mentioned

(52:18):
in the files, but it is not the most incriminating context. Actually,
Woody Allen's wife ex stepdaughter sun Ye announced that she
was taking her daughter and a friend to see a
Fallon taping and then said, what we do for our kids?
Am I right?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Also thought he wasn't funny?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, Fallon is so insufferable that someone who spends every
day with Woody Allen was like this fucking guy.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Well, I will say her husband did a lot for
his kids. So he did a lot for his kids,
so that's what he did. That's right for his daughter
wife say that? Also, I also like, I was thinking,
I saw this email from Suni, and it'd be kind
of cool if we all in solidarity changed our email

(53:09):
sign up to send from Suni's iPhone. You guys, don't
do that with me. That's so good sent from iPhone.
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Come on, I didn't know we weren't supposed to have
been doing that for years.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Okay, you've been on.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
That, so I no one's responding.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
But Tommy Mottola is another one of these guys who
uh career for all intents and purposes, is you know,
in the rear view mirror and has discussed needing to
quote shut up and lay low within Oh wait, no,
I'm sorry, this is not right now. This is him.
This is what he discussed with Epstein during the Me
Too movement. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
And he's also helped Epstein find a private detective his
many secrets were threatened following a Miami Herald expose on
his private island. Those are quotes from a Hollywood Reporter article.
So he was actively helping Epstein cover up his things
and also being like, hey, I better stay out of
the limelight.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Dear released sex offender.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I do think that the times are calling for accountability
and I shall not persist.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
That sounds fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
It's all it's like every email, it's just like it's
not that these people were acquaintances. They're all like best
friends with him. Like the way they talk to him
is like they're like checking in to let him know
where they're at throughout the day, Like, hey, hey, I'm
at Fallon, the things we do for our kids. Hey, anyways,

(54:52):
see you later on, brother. It's like, what the fuck
is Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
I can't think of anyone in my life that I'm
in touch with as these people with.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Jeffrey Epstein than I am with my mother.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I can't think of telling anyone in my life that
I went to fallon, right, Yeah, the level of vulnerability
vulnerability exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, But I do just want to because so Jimmy
Fallen starting a pasta sauce with Tyy Matola did seem
a little bit confounding to me at first. It's just
the latest kind of weird business venture. First of all,
they were like known for going to Rowse together like that,
the Italian restaurant that like launched a famous pasta sauce brand.

(55:36):
So I don't know where they got this genius idea
for from like you can just like see how their
brains work. Wait a second, but then he has also
basically turned the Tonight Show into his own personal QVC,
like when he hawked his own line of wildly expensive
pajamas dubbed p Jimmy's from Alex Mill. Other times, it's

(56:00):
less clear he's using his show's content to enrich himself.
We mentioned before when he got into trouble after extolling
the virtues of NFTs with Paris Hilton. Do you do
you guys remember that clip?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Oh? Yeah, horrific.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
It is like it needs to be in a museum somewhere.
It's so strange. It's just the whole. It captures the
weird NFT moment. It captures the weird experience of being
in a studio audience where they're like, come on, people,
Jimmy needs it. You gotta and you gotta laugh, and
then just like the nervous laughter of a room full

(56:34):
of people, and it's just it again, feels like a
Tim and Eric like sketch that's supposed to feel like
a like a bad acid trip.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
I'm so embarrassed that it worked on me and I
did buy a board ape that I'm solvable, my a, my.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Aim, that's our stella, that's our generation.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
He didn't disclose that he had a financial stake in
that company, and so he got into chocolate water.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Yeah, he did get Oh you know gets into hot water?
Is pasta there we go that gets into hot water.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I do love that, Like the most predictable things happened,
Like if I were to write a movie about any
of these people, that would happen to the Jimmy Fallon
character in my movie. Yeah, it's like, oh, the things
that you thought would happen are happening. Incredible.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah, And so he got in trouble with that, like
in during the pandemic. In twenty twenty four, he invested
in the new golf League TGL and then four days
later hosted TGL golfers on his show to talk about
the endeavor, and at no point did he discuss he
had any financial ties. There was an episode last year
where he interviewed Adam Goldstein, CEO of Archer Aviation, and

(57:52):
they spent several minutes hyping the company, claiming their flying
cars are like stepping into the future, and then he
appeared in a promotional video for the company in which
he wouldn't shut up about the design, safety, and leg
room of the Midnight Aircraft, and then people are like,
he's definitely first of all, the videos are alie, they're

(58:13):
misrepresenting like the progress of their flying cars. And apparently
he paid Jimmy Fallon millions for the Tonight Show spot
and like it's like just illegal ship, Like he's just
tied up, so.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Just fucking sad, Like comedy used to mean something to
white guys.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, if there's any way to explode
on the culturals guys, it's too uppere On Fallon, So
I forget it. That's right, that's how that's how you
go big.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
But it's like with these it's like with him, it's
like why does he need more? Like you're already making
a lot of money being on TV all the time,
Like why do you also need to like be shady?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
It's so weird.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Not the money, it's the content. This man is bored,
doesn't know how to write jokes anymore.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
So you're like promoting brands and stuff that you have
a stake, and it's just so bizarre.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
That's because at heart he's an influencer.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Right, you're right, you're right, you're right. He cares about
selling ads.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah, he's kind of very greatest influencer him.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Anyways, Wait, doesn't he have like an ad TV show
or something like a TV show where he yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Where he gets regular people to create marketing him and
like bows from real housewives who used to be like
in charge of like rebranding Uber after everybody was like,
your CEO is fucked up. So it's like her and
him and they're just getting like regular people to be like,

(59:43):
yeah ads to do ads.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Christ So it's like Shark Tank, but you're like pitching them, yeah,
to pitch their company to people.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Yeah, don't get paid to do it, probably, Yes, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Ten thousand dollars in the home edition of this game.
Yeah all right, Well, anyways, Jimmy's okay, His pasta sauce
is not. And I just wanted to assure everybody about
that because I think if you if you google Tommy
Mottola Epstein, this is the story just keeps saying just

(01:00:18):
all about Jimmy Fallon's pasta. Can't be super excited about
Andrew such a pleasure having you as always on the
daily's like, iist, where can people find you? Follow you
all that good stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Thank you for having me Andrew Michean, M I C
H A A and not in the Epstein files, but
I am on Instagram. Yeah, yeah that's true. One day
I need to be hopeful about it. The podcast as
Night with him, He's still on there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
He's still on there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
I have a podcast called the Podcast but Outside, where
interview strangers on the street, have lots of fun episodes,
past ones with guests like Adam Scott, John Ham, Nick Kroll,
and then new ones with lots of fun different guest
co hosts and we interview strangers. It's very fun and
interesting always and uh yeah you can find me on
all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Feeling an outside I do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Outside, I do outside outdoor podcasters. Yeah amazing. Is there
a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
Yes, And it's something that no one has seemed to
have watched. Maybe you guys have seen it. But it's
a show called Dark on Netflix. If either of you
watched it, Oh, I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Is this the German show?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Yeah German? Yeah, yeah, I watched a little bit of it. Oh,
you watch it all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I watched the first season like during the pandemic, and
then I got distracked.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
I understand. It is a very it is a very
complex show. But if you like sci fi and you
like you like just like it's really well plotted and
really well done. It's called Dark. It's all on Netflix.
There's three seasons. It's only like eight episodes of season.
It's not a huge time commitment. And you see some
of these shows where like, you know, I watched Lost
back in the day, and I liked certain aspects of it,

(01:01:53):
but it felt like they had a really strong idea
for the first season. Then they kind of you know,
poofed around all little bit and then stuck some sort
of landing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
This season.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
It feels like from the get go they had three
seasons planned very expertlessly, very expertly, very meticulously. The plot
all ties together really well, and it's really really good
and satisfying. I'd recommend it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Do you know what Andrew's favorite part of that show
is that what the children disappearing, You know why?

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
You know why, because they're kept safe. If they disappear,
they can't they can't be taken away by these months
in the government.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I will say I have a piece of advice about
that show, and that is do not, by any means
watch the dub. Oh whatever reason, I started watching it
and the dub was just automatically on.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
That happens squid games with me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
It's the whole thing. Like the performance, it just like
makes It was my first experience with a dub, and
I was like, why did anybody say the show is good?
Like the performances are so bad? And then I changed
it over to subtitles and I was like, Oh, the
performances are great, it's just the voice.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go one step further. I would
also say don't watch it with subs either. Learn German.
That's kind of the only way. It's another native tongue. Yeah,
you got to speak, It's worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Amazing Paula you where can people find you as their
working media you've been enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
You can find me at Paula Viganalin everywhere. Shout out
to all the zeitgang that came out to my shows.
That was so fucking cool. You guys are awesome. And yeah,
second screens comedy facial recognition comedy. So second screens is
on the twenty eighth. Ooh Facial Recognition is teaming up
with I don't know if if this has been announced,

(01:03:40):
this might be, this might be insider information, but we're
teaming up with Mermaid Comedy Hour and March Nights, we're
doing a show at the Improv so that'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
So come to that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
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drink Spear. Why people be like My dog is part Cherokee.
I love a good white people be like.

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They do be like that, they do be like that.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian,
Blue Sky Jack ob the number one Instagram Jack Underscore,
Oh Underscore Brian. I like to tweet from Michael Guy
Bowman who said banned from Wikipedia for adding and the rest,
as they say, is history to the end of every article.

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about in today's episode, as well as a song that

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we think you might enjoy what Miles is out. We
like to ask super producer Justin Connor. Hey, Justin, is
there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, we're in the wake of Valentine's Day and so
I wanted to recommend the song. It's a smooth, elegant,
lovely orchestral ballad about two women strongly regretting that they
didn't rob and shoot the men that they were dating.
There's there's not much more of an explanation needed than that.
If that doesn't grab your attention, I don't know what will.

(01:05:24):
The song is called Robbed You by Summer Walker featuring
Mariah the Scientist, and you can find that in the love.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
That I think we should have. Yeah, I know that
was very telling. I think next next time we should
do a song.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
How about that? For our Christians?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
There you go, Let's do a I was gonna say
wake of Valentine's Day more like the ground zero crater
of Valentine's Day. Just keep't stop coming you. For more
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Bye Bye.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long,
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