August 28, 2026 • 58 mins
In episode 2117, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by creator and writer of The RedDot Comics, Kim Winder, to discuss… META Settlement of 17 Billion Apparently Not Enough? Chris Hansen Totally Chill About The New A24 Pattinson Movie, The Real Chris Hansen Is Buying Up Ads Before Every Screening Of Primetime, Teacher’s Designated Fart Corner Sparks Online Debate, The Numbers Behind The Celebrity Death “Apocalypse” and more!
- Meta to Pay Up to $17.1 Billion in Landmark Settlement Over Social Media Addiction Claims
- Chris Hansen Buys Ads Before Every Screening of A24’s ‘Primetime’
- Chris Hansen Was Turned Away From ‘Primetime’ Screening After Refusing To Sign Standard NDA, Not “Sign Away” His Rights
- Chris Hansen thinks Denis Leary, not Robert Pattinson, should be playing him in a movie
- A ‘gas station' for farts? This Georgia teacher says it's a classroom win-win
- The celebrity death apocalypse is coming
- Why are so many well-known people dying this year? Dolly Parton, Catherine o hara, and Chuck Norris just to name a few.
- 2025 has been the craziest year for celebrity deaths in a long time
- Is it me or has there been an extra amount of famous people dying within the last couple days?
- 2023 has been one of the worst years for celebrity deaths.
- 2016: Worst Celebrity Death Year Ever?
- Have more famous people died in 2016?
- Are More Celebrities Dying? A Statistical Analysis
- Protect Betty White: Fans raise money to save actress from 2016
- Was 2016 the Deadliest Year for Celebrities?
- Lots of celebrities died in 2016. But 2017 won’t get any better.
- Is 2016 Really a Worse Year Than Usual for Celebrity Deaths?
- The real reason so many celebrities have died in 2016
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
We talked about Peter Cullen on the trending episode yesterday,
but it was the second time I had heard of...
I knew voice actors were a thing, obviously. And Peter
Cullen is who voiced Optimus Prime and Eeyore. But he
also was doing the sounds for King Kong, Mrs. Kong,
(00:27):
and Baby Kong in the 80s sequel, King Kong Lives.
And also making the sounds of the Predator in the
original Predator movie. And I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's apparently like a whole thing, like a whole skill,
like a whole profession of that. Like Frank Welker, who's
a famous voice actor, like also does like the penguins
and Mr. Popper's penguins. And he did like Abu and Aladdin.
He did the whales and Free Willy too. So it's
(00:58):
just like, dude, like I'm, I'm sure there are people
in the Midwest who would be better at this. You know?
All those bird call kids who go viral for a
little while.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We shot all the bottles off the fence, guys. What
else are we going to do? Let's make voices.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I feel like it's like you have to find a
way to mix accurate bird call... person with like and
how do I give this monkey charisma you know how
do I make people want to like kind of fuck
this monkey like what this is an ugly ass straw
and that's where the Hollywood comes in that's the juice Hello,
(01:51):
the internet, and welcome to Season 453, Episode 5.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Of Der Daily Zeitgeist!
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we
take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the
day's news. We also have a new non-news history version
of the Daily Zeitgeist, drop it each Monday morning, and
sometimes off-schedule if an especially famous person passes away. So
we had Madonna on Monday, which was a huge one,
but then we re-ran the Dolly Parton episode as well
(02:19):
on Wednesday night. In honor of the queen, the great
Dolly Parton. So you can check those out. They have
a slightly different logo in the feed. But they're a
lot of fun. They teach me. They taught me so
much about Dolly Parton.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Just so many ways. Her wig collection was incredible. She
would sleep in her full makeup, get up, and just
pop a wig on and be ready to go. And
she barely slept. She was just fucking incredible engine on
Dolly Parton. And this is, it has been a nice
(03:00):
little period of getting to watch videos. The one good
thing about the passing of an icon is people are like, oh,
but have you seen this one? And it's like, wow, actually,
holy shit. I thought I had. I thought I'd seen
them all. But my God, she's incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I watched her and Kermit doing a duet.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That was the one that got me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Her and Patti LaBelle doing the nails. That one was like,
I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's how she composed or first did the 9 to 5.
She got to set and was like, hey, I think
it would be cool if I made a song for
this and I think I have it. And then brought
Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin over and and, like, did
the percussion with her nails while singing it for them
for the first time. She, like, wrote it the night before,
(03:52):
came to set, did the percussion with her nails while
she sang it. And, like, you can still hear her
nails in the actual recorded track.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's so rad.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Did you see the one of her, like, playing a
song on Carson and then was like, and then here's
what it would sound like sped up? And she did, like,
an incredibly... I was like, that's... that's like a fucking
vaudeville bit, but it's like a mate. Like she absolutely
nails it. She's like, I know y'all have like played
records at twice, like twice the speed and did it exactly.
(04:25):
Like made it sound exactly. And played the guitar like
at twice the speed. It was fucking incredible.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I guess she, she came up in the like variety
show era. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
She just like knew how to be sure. Entertained everything, everything. Anyways,
it is Friday, August 28th, My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
pot in nine to five what a way to make
a living barely getting by it's all baja and no
(04:55):
blasting gonna fry my mind but enjoy it while i'm
here and it's enough to drive you crazy if you
let it that one courtesy of ruben and christy amaguchi
main a collabo hit hit their hit the discord at
The exact same time. So I did a little, picked
(05:16):
a little from one and a little from the other.
But yeah, shout out to y'all. Shout out to Ruben,
who's new. And of course, the great Christy Yamaguchi, Maine
Hall of Fame, a.k.a. writer. I'm thrilled to be joined
in our second seat by one of our very favorite guests,
a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer. You know him
from the Yo's is Racist podcast. the new Starter Trek podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's Andrew T!
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hi! I didn't prepare anything, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
What the fuck, Andrew? We told you a whole 15
minutes before that you had to come on.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I'm just, uh, it's like 100 degrees already. It's so hot.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It is brutally hot in Los Angeles. And my friends
on the East Coast, when I talk to them, are like,
I know... Every time it's slightly warm in Los Angeles,
I have to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You do. You do, actually.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Actually, yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We didn't insulate our buildings.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We didn't. Yeah, we truly were not built for it. Okay.
For whatever reason, we are not built for it. That
is actually where Miles is. His power was knocked out,
had been out for a whole day. Would be cool
if we had a government that actually served people instead
of corporations, but that's a crazy idea. That's a crazy idea.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The power company should have shareholders. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's fine. That's what's good. Andrew, we're thrilled, blessed to
be joined in our third seat by the creator of
Red Dot Comics. You can go to Patreon right now
to support and gain access to her tastefully inappropriate work.
Please welcome back to the show. It's Kim Winder!
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Thank you, a.k.a. Sweet Web Comic Artist, because the other
words are bad now.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Sweet webcomic artist.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm just a sweet webcomic artist. It doesn't work, but
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I don't know what you're talking about, Kim. I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Rocky Horror.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh, Rocky Horror!
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah!
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Sorry. I should have prepared you guys.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I was too deep in Dolly. Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was in Dolly Parton world. I was like... This
doesn't fit with the words of I will. I'm on
to the next one. I mourn in order.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Kim, it's wonderful to have you here. You're not in
Southern California, but you're in another place where it's hot
and the power keeps getting knocked out. I'm told.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, it's basically like Southern California, but without all of
the fun stuff. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Y'all got wildfires up there? That's fun. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Lots.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
On standby all weekend. Know several people that lost their homes.
It's been wonderful.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Hell, yeah. What a time to be alive, you know?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But fuck Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But fuck Trump. Yeah. I think we can all agree
on that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Let's start.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Let's do that. That's the starter pistol for the Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Right now we're doing a show, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Tim, we're going to get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell
the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about Meta's settlement of $ 17 billion,
which is apparently not nearly enough. Because at a certain level,
I don't know the difference between big numbers. Sometimes I'll
confuse billion with million, even though I know... that like
(08:49):
you know a million seconds is 11 days and a
billion seconds is 37 years i know there's a big
difference but like it's just like at a certain level
my brain can't do it so i hear 17 billion
i'm like well that's that's good right that's fuck fuck
them yeah we got your ass uh and then you
see the stock price like barely move and it's like
fuck it wasn't enough we didn't do enough we gotta
(09:11):
we gotta keep going we'll talk about that we'll talk
about chris hansen's totally chill response to the new A24
Robert Pattinson movie about him called Primetime that looks intense.
Intensity in ten cities, as one of the lacrosse players
that I lived next to in college used to say.
(09:33):
We'll talk about a teacher who went viral yesterday on
the internet because she has in her second grade classroom
a designated fart corner, which, I don't know, I I
think it's interesting. I think it's an interesting thought experiment.
And we are going to ask the question, hey, what's
(09:54):
going on? Why are all these celebrity deaths happening? And
the answer is, of course, that we are approaching the
celebrity death apocalypse. We'll explain why that is. There is
actually more celebrity deaths, more and more celebrity deaths. We'll
explain why that is at the end of the episode.
That's called a tease, folks. I've been doing this for years.
(10:16):
Before we get to any of that shit, Kim, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Recently, ugly dogs. We just adopted a puppy, and he's
objectively not attractive. But it sent me down a rabbit
hole because... he was at the shelter for a few
days and no one wanted to adopt him, even though
he was a brand new baby and puppies usually go
(10:46):
by fast. But yeah, I just wanted to know about
ugly dogs. And I found several.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How ugly are we talking about for your dog?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh, he's incredibly ugly. Falcor from the never ending story.
But if he had less hair and eyes that went,
The other way.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Oh, cute. I love a fucking dog.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
He's adorable. I love him. But.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Falkor is cute. I had a dog that looked like Falkor,
and I would brag about how cute my dog was.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, but Falkor can be tweaked enough where you're like.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, where you're like, dude, Jesus Christ. Damn, damn.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Damn, dude.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Don't get me wrong. He's the sweetest little soul, but...
He's an uggo.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And like sometimes I'll go like I that same dog
that I'm talking about had eyes that like went in
different directions. But that to me made him cuter. But yeah,
I'm I'm assuming if he was in the pound, he
would sit. People will be like, there's something fucked up
about this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I loved him immediately because he was just like such
a sweetheart. but I was worried. I'm like, is there
something medically wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
He's fine. We got them all already checked out at
the vet. He's good, but I just ugly dogs.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It was ugly dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Just sit, you know, just sitting there in the, in
the pound after all their brothers and sisters are gone
being cuddled. But you know what?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That was my thought.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Guess what?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Guess what? Those dogs are being grabbed by families that
might not be as serious about getting a dog. You know,
they're getting ones.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They're getting cuddled by families who are just like in
it for the cuteness, but not may not be in
it for the long haul. Whereas you are you love
this dog for its heart, for its very soul.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
For its personality.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And that's something, I think. I bet ugly dogs actually
have it better. If they do find a home, I
bet they, in the end, have it a little better
than their cute, pretty siblings.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I feel like it's like those scam emails that intentionally
have typos and stuff because it's harder to get by
the filter. But once you get by the filter, you're
super in. If someone read this thing from your bank
that had typos and was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're
going to give you the money.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And it's like, if the ugly dog gets by the filter,
it already did the hard part.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Is that how they do? Is that why they do that?
They're like, yeah, they're screening out. Yeah. People who aren't
complete idiots, essentially.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, it's like, I feel like I've read two different theories.
One is just like, it just happened to work and
it just sort of organically became, you know, the thing.
Or it's hard to think, like, maybe it was intentional.
But yeah, they just spam literally any email address or text,
you know, phone number they can ever find. Sure. And
(14:06):
it's just like, it's like a pre-screening. If someone takes
this thing that they got seriously, they are way more
likely to be a mark.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right, right, right. You don't have to waste your time, yeah.
I mean, this person must be desperate. Look at how
they're writing.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They're just lonely, guys.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're all just ugly dogs on the inside.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We are all ugly dogs. Damn. What is, Kim, something
you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Underrated? That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I feel.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm coming at your ass today. It's going to be
a real confrontational question and answer session.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Cooling blankets.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
All right. Explain this to me.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I don't think I'm in perimenopause. I'm a bit young
for that. I'm 35, so it's in the range, but
it's still young. I'm hot as fuck all the time.
And cooling blankets have just been fantastic for me. And
I don't see anyone talking about it because, I don't know,
(15:14):
we all praise AC so much. But that's expensive too.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Is the cooling blanket the one with the fan under
the blanket or no?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, it's just the type of fabric that can breathe.
So it's still cozy, but I'm not sweating my ass
off at night anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I have to buy one of these.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Especially SoCal, I know it. It's awful when it gets hot,
especially next month. September is usually the worst.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
September, for whatever reason. I don't fucking know. It's so stupid.
I don't know. Is September a good hottest month? No. What?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Pumpkin spice? Fuck you. It's 95.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, this is rad.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Cooling blankets.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I need the illusion of a blanket. for like psychological purposes,
but I don't need the physical presence of a blanket.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
See, there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah. What are the, so my issue is with, with
this premise of cooling blankets, when I go visit my parents,
they have blankets on their bed that are like, we
stay there for two weeks in the summer. They have
blankets on the bed that are like, I guess, summer blankets,
you know, they're designed, they're very thin blankets. But when
(16:29):
it's too light, I don't feel like I have a blanket. Yeah,
like Andrew said, psychologically, I feel like I need something.
Are they heavy and cool, or are they very lightweight?
I feel like I just have a sheet on me
when I'm under a thin blanket.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Mine is that, I don't know what the fabric is,
but that really kind of fuzzy, cozy feeling.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like fleece?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but it's breathable. I don't want to say it's
fleece because.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Because that makes me sound.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's medical advice if you do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Talk to your doctor.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I will say, the reason I asked about the fan
one is I went to.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was just visiting someone who I didn't know very
well for the first time. And they were like, we'll
just give you the whole house tour. And one of
the parts of the tour was the master bedroom... Her
and her husband were on very different temperatures, and she
had some shit that was like, it was like a
fan with a hose that went under her side of
(17:37):
the bed. So she was sort of like getting a
fan only under the sheets. Wow. That was like a product.
I have no idea what the hell that was. I
thought maybe that's what a cooling blanket was. But it
was basically like a personal fan.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Air conditioner?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, there was an air conditioner with extra steps.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, it was that. Okay, so this is not that.
This is just like a piece of cloth that has
intrinsic cloth properties.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, ShamWow, but for cooling.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Din Tai Fung.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Din Tai Fung.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It is so pricey and it's not as good. And
previously living in SoCal, there are so many fucking better options.
So many and way cheaper.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I will just say one as the Chinese representative here, um, that, uh,
the best thing about that is cause it's just like,
you just gotta like let white people have a thing
every like decade or so. Like they'll discover one thing. Um,
but yes, I, I should just say first off, you're
absolutely correct. However, it's so hard to talk. your like
(18:54):
white friends into just trying the place that's like a
tenth of the price and just as good right so
i've kind of given up personally but you are correct
i i.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Feel validated given i'm a white lady uh people shouldn't
take me seriously but no you're super correct on this
one oh thank you we went to din tai feng
a few months ago and it was just like this
is $ 200 and it's shit. The old place by our old,
our house was way better in $ 40. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Go to, go to any one. It's basically the premium.
Like once they start marketing towards, Oh, marketing towards white people,
or I went to the one in Glendale and it
was all white employees on the like servers. And I
was like, wow, this is weird.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's telling.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
There's a weird vibe. The DIN stands for dinner. That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, it's just like the thing that white people have
heard of and they could like take it in and
then that allowed the company to like, you know, franchise,
God knows how many at this point, but.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The buns are so soft. They invented that, right? You
can do better. All of the only ones.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's those breadsticks though.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah. Those aren't really fucking good.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
All right. Well, fucked in Typhoon. And just to your
alternative is just finding a place close by to you
that has good.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Just like local Chinese restaurants.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, I would shout out Sunny Dumpling House in Lake Forest.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's in Orange County. That's what we're going to Din
Tai Fung for.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
They have some good shit.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I would say for the general across-the-country audience, probably more
Southern California, but I suspect this is everywhere, is... Asian,
like Gen Z Asian people love to tell you where
to go. So, and they are giving actual advice.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Just stop a kid with a broccoli haircut on the street.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No, I'm just, I'm like, find a, find a lowered
Acura and fucking, no, but get on TikTok and they
will just actually tell you the actual best place. It's
like pretty, it's pretty like good actually.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Asian people love talking about where to eat. Ask Gen Z.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ask a Gen Z Asian person. That's how they'll make money. Yeah.
All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back
and talk about the news. And we're back.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And....
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Uh, yeah. So 17 billion is a big number, right?
I'm not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That seems big.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's moderate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
They were being sued apparently for $ 100 billion. This is meta. Yeah.
For doing things that are harmful to children and teenagers
while knowing that they were harmful. That that's the thing
that like, I feel like maybe this will be in
(22:19):
the Sorkin movie. Yeah. But they did all this bad stuff, like,
knowing that it was bad. And now they're like, we
said we're sorry, okay? And, like, this is supposed to
be a... It's being covered as, like, this is the
tobacco industry moment for the tech industry. But I was just, like,
(22:45):
so annoyed to... I went and... looked at the stock market,
looked at the stock trade, the trading price for Meta,
which I do anytime I'm hoping something bad has happened
to one of these companies. And it was up at
the end of the day that this was announced. And
people are like saying not as bad as it could
(23:05):
have been, even though they were essentially admitting to making
a product that is addictive and harmful to kids and
like hiding what they knew and not reacting to what
they knew in a humane way. But I don't think
people fully grasp how thoroughly fucked up what is being
(23:28):
revealed in these studies and what it would take for
a company like Meta to pay $ 17 billion to try
to put something behind them.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
We're all pretty chronically online, so we can see in
real time the damage that it can do and what
they let go by while other people may not and
just see headlines because my bread and butter is meta
Instagram's my biggest platform but it is so fucked on
(24:01):
what I have seen and reported yet nothing happens and
they make these big waves about doing all the right
things but truly they don't give a fuck as long
as they get their ad money.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They truly can't do... The thing that's been true about
all of these platforms from the start is they can't
actually police the stuff. They can't change it without a
huge investment in... police they i don't know that it
would destroy it like they could actually like have moderators
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and like moderate things and but they would destroy their
bottom line yeah destroy the company yeah they would have
to hire too many people right they would be a
moderation company first yes yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Do you guys remember when instagram used to have a
thing where you scrolled to the very bottom and it
says you're caught up come back later Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Old days. But I want that so bad.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
So they're bringing it sounds like they're bringing that back
for teenagers like that sort of ethos. But it's just
going to be so easy to get around. Like they're
all they're doing is like putting a little rope around
the deathly pit of doom and being like, there, we
told them it was bad, you know?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Can I ask you a question? As far as the
bad actor, is this referencing specific things that shouldn't be
on the platform, or is this just the general practice
of social media, period? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, I think it's a combination.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But I think it's broadly how kids and teenagers use
social media and what it does to their mental health.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And it's... Like, the basics of it. Like, even if
it worked perfectly, even if they actually had all these
millions of moderators they would need to make sure people
weren't seeing fucked up stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
We're still talking about, like, just the scroll is turning
your brain to.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's bad. Yeah, yeah. I think it's less bad if
they were able to, like, moderate it in some way, but... Sure. They... Yeah,
they don't intend to... fix any of these things because
it's just it's just like too big you know it's
too big to for them to do it in any
way other than like you know if somebody created a
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place for people to physically hang out and like millions
and millions and millions of people started showing up like
you would have to hire millions and millions and millions
of people to like watch that and like organize that
and you can't just have it be running automatically which
is like how they've had this massive valuation but yeah
(26:55):
i'm just like you you can tell that this is
not going to functionally change anything right if if the
people who make the decisions on like how how the
company's valued which is the only thing that they give
a fuck about like if if they're just like looks
good clear sailing smooth sailing from here then yeah they're
they're not going to actually functionally change also.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Who the fuck's getting the money from the settlement? Who
does that go to?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think it goes to the government, which they're always
good at distributing things directly to the people and not
like somehow finding a way to redistribute it. And like,
pass it on to corporations i'm sure.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I mean look this is not how it works but
it's like you could just see sort of like a
fucked up brewster's million situation where if you're getting paid
out by how much of facebook you've seen people just
like scrolling scrolling for cash yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
They actually kind of have something like that that i'm
a part of because and the It truly is. It's like,
how much time have you spent on the platform? And
we'll give you a few cents, you fucking plebe.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah. Wait, how do you... How is that organized? Is
it part of a settlement? Or it's like them being like.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's them incentivizing creators to stay online.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And if they remove me from this program, fine. I
got three bucks last month. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But it's really just... hey, stay online as long as
possible and posts will give you more money. But you
don't see shit.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Seems worth it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah. It is a little bit like because their admission
is like the product is addictive, but it's like that
is what they're selling to advertisers. Addicted people like that
is their product.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That is the entirety of their product. Making nicotine-free... Yes, exactly.
It is the same shit as the tobacco industry. That
is a good corollary.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And that shit is back. Gen Z loves smoking. Zins
came out after the tobacco settlement. We're just utterly fucked.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, when your vape explodes in your pants, of course
you're going to go back to cigarettes.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
And they do that on purpose. Just one out of
every million vapes just explodes in people's pants.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh, my God. Just the randomness.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They also kind of brilliantly moved from tobacco to, like,
as they saw that those settlements coming down they were
they got out of the tobacco business and like moved
over to food made food addictive everybody became obese and
now they're like uh what do we do next how
about back that back to zen yeah what about.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wine what happened to people liking.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Alcohol yeah they're working on it yeah they're working on it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
They're going to Big Ketamine.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's next. Let's talk about Chris Hansen. Hey, speaking of,
we need people out there watching out for the safety
of kids. And Chris Hansen has always been a trusted...
I haven't seen the movie yet, but it seems like
it's just about him being cool and normal and catching predators.
(30:22):
You guys haven't. The movie's not out yet, right?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
This movie's not out, but there was a documentary that
I am searching the name of right now called Predators. Yep.
That came out last year. That was, like, one of
those things. I guess I hadn't thought about it much, but, like,
you know, this is ultimately a not... pro chris hansen
(30:46):
to catch a predator documentary just given but it's it's
like so weird to talk about because it is like
obvious entrapment right it's like not legally like like like
they break so many laws around and not break but
they don't do anything because it's like none of this
is really admissible all of these predators have just been
(31:08):
sort of publicly shamed.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Public shaming but like.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
If I recall, way too many of them were not
able to be prosecuted, essentially. Right. Because this is not
law enforcement. This is just some dudes.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Right. In my mind, it's like the moral good versus
the law. And public shaming is going to go a
lot farther than the law most of the time. But...
I don't know. I don't know anything about this. So
this is super icky.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, I think the one that they followed in
the documentary that was like, it was like something like
it was like a 19 year old who was like,
like texting a 16 year old or something like that.
Like something that I think is actually like technically morally gray. Yeah.
But it was one of those things where it was like, ah,
I don't know. But it's just sort of really highlighting
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the general problem with vigilante justice, which is like, it's
just at the whim of some dude. not that like
law enforcement isn't also that, but like.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's, it was just like kind of ugly. And he got,
he kind of ends up in a pretty right wing
place that kind of helps you settle where you stand.
Damn it.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, I mean, I just like, I was like, yeah, yeah,
get them. And then you're like, wait a second, watching here.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah. So you kind of suck.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
It's just interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I mean, the, the trailer, it looks totally like deranged
and terrifying and, awesome but yeah so chris hansen has
said he's had a couple comments on the because this
is this is one of those things where it's like
a movie about a guy who is like this happened
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like 10 years ago or whatever you know 15 years
ago it's not not that long ago and so he's
like he's going on podcasts and stuff he went on
jesse waters fox news program and was like i i
Declined to even see the movie because they were trying
to get me to sign an agreement barring me from
taking legal action against A24. And people were like, oh, no,
(33:21):
it was just an NDA to prevent spoilers. We were
asking everybody to sign. But he's also saying that he
should have been played by Dennis Leary for some reason.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's so funny. That's so specific.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's also like every old dad's favorite. Yeah. I should
have been played by the guy from Rescue Me.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I was about to say, Robert Pattinson fucking nailed it. Like,
I was never Team Edward, but I kind of am
seeing all his work. But to go that direction? Also
being on Jesse Waters. Like, fuck you, Chris Hansen.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It turns out he's like a monster. But he also
is now buying commercials that will run in front of
every you know, every screening of the movie where it
opens with him addressing the camera saying, I'm going to
need everyone in the theater to take a seat right
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over there, which is what he would say to the predator.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The implication of the ad is like we're predators now. Yeah.
It's an interesting opening gambit.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I do love the idea of just like an arms
race involving if there's a movie you don't like, you
buy an ad in front of it. Because presumably A24
can buy another ad slot.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
In front of his in front of that one. And
be like, where do you see this asshole? It's just
like a stack of people arguing with each other.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I just want a feature-length stack of ads before the
movie that are just a debate between two sides. before
the movie started.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He did. So that now goes on to say, now
there are more platforms than ever before where this disturbing
crime is being committed. Join us undercover every day on
my streaming network, True Blue. There was an end to
that ad where he was like, and by the way,
this movie you're about to see sucks shit. It's not even,
you know, he's going to like talk a lot of
(35:29):
trash about it. And then he was like, forced to
remove that but it is wild too.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It's so funny what it is what an amazing instinct what's.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
On his internet search history what's on chris hansen's hard
drive can we.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Look at that i know be amazing to catch chris hansen.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I mean the evidence for all the other plot twists
like right wing freaks who like are just super into
like attacking, you know, whatever. There's just such a high
incidence of those people doing the thing that they claim
to be like.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's just like for him to be right wing at
this time.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It feels weird that he's so concerned about predators, but when, yeah,
But that was the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
When you see the offices of True Blue in this documentary,
it is one of those, like, oh, right, all these
people want to be cops. They're not like, oh, the
cops aren't doing the job, so we're going to take
the community into our hands. They're like, no, we want
to be extra cops. We want to be even less
regulated than cops, but still be cops.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You want to be Batman. Yeah. Your fucking child.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like real life Batman.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
It's just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm not wearing hockey pads.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It's really.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Would say I highly recommend that documentary. It was really
illuminating over a thing I had not thought about much.
About like, oh, right. This is like a weird instinct.
And it's just like... Yeah. People like just like setting
up these fucked up stings and like the toll it
takes on the people who have to like pretend to
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be a child engaged in this is so fucked up.
Like all of it was just like, right. When you
think about the actual mechanics of it, like this is awful.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Which didn't seem to be his top concern.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, exactly. At the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about the fart corner. We'll be right back.
And we're back. And it's time to talk about the
fart corner. A second grade teacher in Georgia went viral
(37:58):
after showing off her classroom's gas station on TikTok. And
by gas station, we, of course, mean a corner of
the room where students can go to fart. There's a
yellow warning sign reading gusty winds area and an assortment
of Febreze products to cover up the smell. I feel
like you need a fan in there personally. Yeah. Like
blowing it towards a window or something like that.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You said, teacher, I feel it should be innovator. Everyone
should have this.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hero.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, hero. Kids fucking stink. I fucking stink. I would
like a little area where that's just it. We're just
not going to pretend. Everyone does this. Go to the
corner and shart. My personal opinion.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Don't shard it. There's a separate corner for sharding. But yeah,
to your point about how smelly kids are, when asked
about this, she said, I have a very weak stomach,
so I cannot take it. Which is like, oh my God.
How bad do these children smell?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, yes and no. But I also like, to
your point of kids stink, I just think maybe second
grade teacher is not for you.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's a hard age.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
The actual actualization. Oh, my God. I can't talk. But
they're coming into, you know, who they are and they're
testing everything out.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
So some people. this became a big debate quickly. A
lot of people were quick to support this idea, suggesting
every classroom should have one. Some are in the Kim camp,
some would say the Kim Winder camp.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Very popular camp.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And then other people were like, Don't the one that
like draw more attention to the farter and make the
whole thing funnier to the room full of literal second graders. Yeah.
Like my first instinct, having a son who's just entered
third grade and like just thinking of his, his comprehensive
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look at his work over the last year leads me
to believe that he would find a way to turn
this into a comedy goldmine. for the entertainment of his classmates.
But maybe, so like, but I am perfectly willing to
be like the old school, baseball scouts from Moneyball where
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they're like, what are you talking about? These stats don't
matter at all. He's got to have a good jaw.
That's what makes a good ball player. If this is
actually possible to de-stigmatize, catch children this young and de-stigmatize
the human fart because she claims that she has really
(40:54):
promising early results. The kids are just going there and
farting and then coming back and no one's like that
person just farted well.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Isn't it kind of like the whole six seven thing
as soon as adults hopped on it yeah it's like
backed off so you know we have a fart corner
the fart corner is no longer funny because now the
adults are in on.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
It yeah i do think you could try ruining jokes
Just try it. If you're, if you're sick of the
kids saying like all this, like, all right, everyone settled down.
Like that's the opposite. That's part of the fun. Yeah.
This feels also like an Adam Sandler bit. This feels
like him being like, oh, we're going to go far.
And it's just like Billy Madison.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah. Go to my fart closet. That actually, somebody commented
in the, and was like, I'm a teacher and we
have a fart closet, which seems, I don't like that
one as much because that, feels shameful yeah first of
all like just in terms of the physics of it
it's bad yeah because you're.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Trapped in the closet yeah you should be ashamed.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah yeah yeah i'm yes i'm out of view but
i'm also trapped in here with the unholy hell that
my lunch has just wrought so yeah seems i i
do like it as a As a little thought experiment.
The other thought experiments are, you know, little social experiments
(42:25):
that teachers try are usually like, we turned half of
our class into fascists. So I like this one better.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
They have a gas chamber.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah. Recall the wave. They take, you know. This seems
a little bit more benign.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Also, yeah, take note, Mr. Beast, all your fucking social experiments.
You don't have the vision to build fart dome.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Like, if you told me that, like, a Scandinavian country,
this was just, like, very common there, I would be like, yeah, that's, like,
progressive and the sort of enlightened thing that I would
expect of them. They're like, we don't have prisons. We
just have knitting groups that people join. And, like, they
(43:13):
come out fully rehabilitated. And, yeah. You know? Like, this
feels like something to aspire to.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
The fart yurt.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Just leaving your kid outside to sleep in the snow
and fart. That tickles me in a way.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah. All right. Let's get to the news that's been
dominating lately. this week is the passing of celebrities like
Dolly Parton, Tim Curry. Obviously, we had Hayden Panettiere last week.
And then, you know, Yuyoi Kusama, the great artist from Japan.
(43:51):
We found out about her passing. She had passed 10
days ago, but I've seen a lot of comments being
like 2026 has been like, well, what the fuck 2026? Um,
which is something that people have been saying basically every
year for the past 10 years. Uh, our writer, Jahan, uh,
compiled a list. 2025 has been the craziest year for
celebrity deaths in a long time. Is it me? Or
(44:13):
has there been an extra amount of famous people dying
within the last couple of days from 2024? 2023 has
been one of the worst years for celebrity death. Uh, 20,
2016 worst celebrity death year ever. Now, that's the one
that I remember. That was a major talking point back
in 2016 because that was when Prince David Bowie, Carrie Fisher,
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Muhammad Ali, Alan Rickman, and George Michael all passed away.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
That one was a big one.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's a big one.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, last year outside of Diane Keaton, I don't really...
Diane Keaton, Jane Goodall.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
There were a lot, I feel like. Jane Goodall. Dick Cheney.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Charlie Kirk, Rob Reiner. Okay, fine. I take it back.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Couple Kings.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Chaney.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
But 2016 was... Fuck Kirk.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
A GoFundMe campaign back in 2016 was launched to help
protect Betty White from 2016. What a time, guys. You
remember that?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Just... Joke-ass GoFundMes.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Joke-ass GoFundMes because we didn't have enough disasters to be funding.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Harambe. Why isn't Harambe on this fucking list?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Sticks out for Harambe. But the BBC claimed back in
2026 that twice as many notable people died in 2016
compared to 2015.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
but like it's it's just such a vague thing yeah
so i've always been like what no first of all
these things don't come in threes because like if you
just look at this week people were like and you
had hayden panettiere uh dolly parton tim curry it's over
and then like yoy kusama and like all you know
(45:58):
you can really thin slice it however you want and
be selective But experts are saying that this is not
an anomaly. 2016 was actually the start of a looming
celebrity death apocalypse, which is like sounds crazy. But there
has been a major spike in celebrity culture beginning in
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the 1960s, thanks to TV and New Hollywood. And, you know,
there's just like we create more. We've created more and
more celebrities since the 1960s. And like there, you try
and think of like celebrities prior to that, there's like
a handful. And then starting in the sixties, you know,
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there's just like more and more famous people. And those
famous people are getting older, which makes sense. But I
also think that we are in a period, like there's
also like a first mover thing where like, these are
the people who are like in their seventies and eighties
(47:02):
right now we're celebrities in a monoculture.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
So they're like bigger celebrities. Like, yeah. I remember when
I was a kid, like everyone was talking about how
the only people who were like able to go on
tours for like arena tours were like people in their sixties,
like Springsteen and the Rolling Stones and like people who
are like of that age. And I think it was,
the theory was that like, these were, people who came
(47:29):
along when there was just like a real monoculture and
like be becoming a rock star was like Matt, like
the biggest you could possibly be. And then they're able
to like continue to build fame. And even beyond that,
even as like more people are famous. And so, yeah,
you just have these giants out there looming who are
(47:51):
now like aging into a time when they are like,
you know, more likely to pass away.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I wonder if like in 40 years, because modern culture
is gone now, will we still have this kind of
mourning for people? Cause it's always a shame when someone passes,
regardless if it's old age or untimely and very tragic.
It's just, it feels like no one's going to care.
(48:17):
And I'm kind of sad for that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah. I mean, we'll, we'll see in like, 2070 when
it's all the TikTok pull-ups.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
All the influencers. Like, oh, every again today. The TikToker
that went viral in 2019 died.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Oh no, the horse guy?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Beloved youtuber yeah but there there's actually been this is
actually a historic trend or a historical trend like a
there's been a steady rise in deaths of notable people
and also like the existence of notice notable people since
the 1700s like before the 1700s it was like well
the only notable people are like The king and Jesus.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Like, you know what I mean? And then, like, it really, like,
started to climb. And that guy came back. Yeah. Then
it started to climb in the mid to late 20th
century into the 2000s. And then, like, now you just see, like, the...
the number of, they have it charted as like births
of and deaths of notable figures. Because that must come down. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
I guess that makes sense. Yeah. Europe's next top Viscount.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
This is the chart of the births of notable people
and deaths of notable people.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I'm going to say this. I don't think I appreciated
how big the baby boom was until I was looking
at this chart. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Well, it's the baby boom and also just like.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Oh, no, that's free. Yeah, never mind. Yeah. That's like
all the vaudeville people dying.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Charlie Chaplin lived until, what, the 90s? 80s?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah. There's only one death I want. I don't need
to say it.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Right. No, you don't need to.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I have a.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Bottle of fucking champagne that I really want to open.
Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah. Yeah, but it's, uh, so it does. Before I
was just like, oh, people are just like trying to
make something go viral and they'll like find a way to,
but it does make sense that there's just, there are
more famous people. because there is money to be made
off of famous people. But also, that's not to take
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anything away from the passing of massive celebrities who were indeed...
I guess that's one thing that we can say now
that I think is an improvement, is that if there
is a Dolly Parton out there, we're going to find her. Yeah,
that's a wonderful way to look at it. You know,
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like she's in a previous age when we weren't when
there wasn't a celebrity generating factory out there. It would
have she might have just been the most entertaining person
in her holler. Yeah. But now it's easier.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
But it still might be because to get famous now,
you also have to have this like. like gene for
attention grabbing yeah that is like maybe counterintuitive to or
or like the amount of time you have to spend
on that is maybe counterproductive to like this the number
(51:42):
of nine to fives that you end up being able
to write because you're too busy studying metrics on tiktok.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah yeah you mean like would it would dolly parton
if she were 14 today, would she still be blowing up?
Speaker 2 (51:58):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
There's so many unboxing videos you can fucking watch, but
how many people wrote, I will always love you? That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
I feel like some of the I will always love
you brainpower had to go to, oh, what's the next
unboxing trend? That's maybe the tragedy.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
People not trusting their talent and going with that. I've
fallen into that plenty of times.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Miles highlighted this kid who's a songwriter who was going
viral a couple weeks ago on here as one of
the songs we wrote out on, who's just this young
kid from, I think, the UK. It's just like, here's
a song that I wrote last night, and plays it.
It's incredible, and everybody... in, in the, like all these
(52:50):
like famous songwriters are in the comments being like, holy shit,
like you're, you're amazing. So like maybe there is a
way for like just authentically gifted people to just be like, Hey, uh, I,
this is my first video. I'm not like, Hey, uh,
so just quick update after yesterday's unboxing video. I will
always love you. Hey guys.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
That's the hope. That is the hope.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
It could be the sign of the times too, because
the influencer trend is dying. People are getting pretty fucking
sick of seeing rich people flaunt themselves for views. Yeah.
So I saw a video yesterday or even this morning,
I think a lady bought a house, nothing crazy, but
there was a little pond with a fish in it.
(53:33):
She built a bigger pond for the fish and it
was the most delightful video I've seen in a long
fucking time. And yeah, I think a lot of people
are going back to that. Just something enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I thought you were going to say there was like a,
the mob went after her or something.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Well, that was towards the end. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
I've actually, I know those fish and that's actually a
sign that those fish are uncomfortable and frightened. They're sending.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Those fish were absolutely, absolutely in the stamp files, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Kim, such a pleasure having you as always. Where can
people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I'm all over the Internet. Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, X, Twitter,
Blue Sky. But if you like dirty stuff, Patreon. Pay me.
I'll show you my feet.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Not really.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
I'll draw it.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah. Draw your feet.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
I'll draw my feet for you.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
You sickos.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah. Boyd's. B-O-I-D-S. It's a webcomic by my friend Dave.
He actually was one of the founders of Cyanide and Happiness,
like old school. And he makes great shit. I love
his work. I think other people should follow it.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
There you go. Love, sight, night, and happiness.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Great.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Andrew, where can people find you? Is there a work
of media you've been enjoying? Oh, man.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, listen to Starter Track, Andrew T. on social media.
I'm not even not done. I've barely scratched the surface
of this book, but it seems like it's going to
be extremely my shit. I got the new DJ Screw autobiography,
or not autobiography, sorry. The DJ Screw biography by Lance
Scott Walker. So far, it's good. I don't know. I
realized I haven't read a ton of like, musician biographies
(55:24):
so that's also like kind of like oh yeah that's
the thing i don't normally do but it's cool anyway
so far so good they're always.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Like really good writers too i feel like not always
but i feel like a lot of the time they're
like oh yeah i could have been a writer.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Oh sorry not autobiography uh but yeah oh it's a
biography yeah yeah i misspoke i misspoke but yeah yeah
yeah Yeah, maybe that's ghostwriting. Who knows? Anyway.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Anyways, great. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien,
Blue Sky, Jack OB, the number one Instagram. Jack underscore
O underscore Brian. I liked a tweet from Bailey on Twitter.
He said, sorry, have to unmatch. Found someone holding a
bigger fish than you on their profile. Uh, you can
find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist.
(56:11):
We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. Uh, you can
go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening
to it. And there at the bottom, you will find
the footnotes, which is where we link off to the
information that we talked about in today's episode. We also
link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
When Miles is out, we do like to ask Super
Producer Justin Conner. Justin, is there a song that you
(56:32):
think the people might enjoy?
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yeah, I'm going to put everyone on to a vastly
underrated Aaliyah track. Speaking of legends who've passed on. This
is a song called Came to Give Love off of
the album One in a Million back in 96. It's
just a very smooth track. classic R & B vibe.
(56:55):
The guitar licks going all the way through Aaliyah doing
her thing. Timbaland spitting a little verse. Makes me very nostalgic,
but reminds me of like summertime Chicago. And yeah, it's
a fun vibe. So you can check out Came to
Give Love by Aaliyah and Timbaland in the footnotes.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Hell yeah. Footnotes. I do also just want to shout
out 2001 Live at 25 Years Ago Live, which is...
a Twitter account that's just basically live tweeting the year
2001 right now. And it did, it did just, you know,
Aaliyah just passed on the 25 years ago feed recently.
(57:33):
And somebody came in and was like, man, I really hope, uh,
Hope nothing else bad happens anytime soon. But yeah, we're
coming up on 25 years.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
I got hope for Gen Z. That is a Gen
Z ran account for fucking sure.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
It's like 10 posts a day. That's really.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
That's.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
More than actual news was happening in 2001.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
It's an amazing.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Where are you finding stuff?
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Simpler time.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
All right. That's going to do it for us this week.
We are back on Monday with a new iconograph and
to tell you what was trending over the weekend. And
have a great weekend, everybody. Talk to you all then. Bye.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Co-produced by Victor Wright.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Co-written by J.M.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
McNabb.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Edited and engineered by Justin Connery.
We talked about Peter Cullen on the trending episode yesterday,
but it was the second time I had heard of...
I knew voice actors were a thing, obviously. And Peter
Cullen is who voiced Optimus Prime and Eeyore. But he
also was doing the sounds for King Kong, Mrs. Kong,
(00:27):
and Baby Kong in the 80s sequel, King Kong Lives.
And also making the sounds of the Predator in the
original Predator movie. And I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's apparently like a whole thing, like a whole skill,
like a whole profession of that. Like Frank Welker, who's
a famous voice actor, like also does like the penguins
and Mr. Popper's penguins. And he did like Abu and Aladdin.
He did the whales and Free Willy too. So it's
(00:58):
just like, dude, like I'm, I'm sure there are people
in the Midwest who would be better at this. You know?
All those bird call kids who go viral for a
little while.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We shot all the bottles off the fence, guys. What
else are we going to do? Let's make voices.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I feel like it's like you have to find a
way to mix accurate bird call... person with like and
how do I give this monkey charisma you know how
do I make people want to like kind of fuck
this monkey like what this is an ugly ass straw
and that's where the Hollywood comes in that's the juice Hello,
(01:51):
the internet, and welcome to Season 453, Episode 5.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Of Der Daily Zeitgeist!
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we
take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the
day's news. We also have a new non-news history version
of the Daily Zeitgeist, drop it each Monday morning, and
sometimes off-schedule if an especially famous person passes away. So
we had Madonna on Monday, which was a huge one,
but then we re-ran the Dolly Parton episode as well
(02:19):
on Wednesday night. In honor of the queen, the great
Dolly Parton. So you can check those out. They have
a slightly different logo in the feed. But they're a
lot of fun. They teach me. They taught me so
much about Dolly Parton.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Just so many ways. Her wig collection was incredible. She
would sleep in her full makeup, get up, and just
pop a wig on and be ready to go. And
she barely slept. She was just fucking incredible engine on
Dolly Parton. And this is, it has been a nice
(03:00):
little period of getting to watch videos. The one good
thing about the passing of an icon is people are like, oh,
but have you seen this one? And it's like, wow, actually,
holy shit. I thought I had. I thought I'd seen
them all. But my God, she's incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I watched her and Kermit doing a duet.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That was the one that got me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Her and Patti LaBelle doing the nails. That one was like,
I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's how she composed or first did the 9 to 5.
She got to set and was like, hey, I think
it would be cool if I made a song for
this and I think I have it. And then brought
Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin over and and, like, did
the percussion with her nails while singing it for them
for the first time. She, like, wrote it the night before,
(03:52):
came to set, did the percussion with her nails while
she sang it. And, like, you can still hear her
nails in the actual recorded track.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's so rad.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Did you see the one of her, like, playing a
song on Carson and then was like, and then here's
what it would sound like sped up? And she did, like,
an incredibly... I was like, that's... that's like a fucking
vaudeville bit, but it's like a mate. Like she absolutely
nails it. She's like, I know y'all have like played
records at twice, like twice the speed and did it exactly.
(04:25):
Like made it sound exactly. And played the guitar like
at twice the speed. It was fucking incredible.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I guess she, she came up in the like variety
show era. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
She just like knew how to be sure. Entertained everything, everything. Anyways,
it is Friday, August 28th, My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
pot in nine to five what a way to make
a living barely getting by it's all baja and no
(04:55):
blasting gonna fry my mind but enjoy it while i'm
here and it's enough to drive you crazy if you
let it that one courtesy of ruben and christy amaguchi
main a collabo hit hit their hit the discord at
The exact same time. So I did a little, picked
(05:16):
a little from one and a little from the other.
But yeah, shout out to y'all. Shout out to Ruben,
who's new. And of course, the great Christy Yamaguchi, Maine
Hall of Fame, a.k.a. writer. I'm thrilled to be joined
in our second seat by one of our very favorite guests,
a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer. You know him
from the Yo's is Racist podcast. the new Starter Trek podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's Andrew T!
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hi! I didn't prepare anything, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
What the fuck, Andrew? We told you a whole 15
minutes before that you had to come on.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I'm just, uh, it's like 100 degrees already. It's so hot.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It is brutally hot in Los Angeles. And my friends
on the East Coast, when I talk to them, are like,
I know... Every time it's slightly warm in Los Angeles,
I have to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You do. You do, actually.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Actually, yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We didn't insulate our buildings.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We didn't. Yeah, we truly were not built for it. Okay.
For whatever reason, we are not built for it. That
is actually where Miles is. His power was knocked out,
had been out for a whole day. Would be cool
if we had a government that actually served people instead
of corporations, but that's a crazy idea. That's a crazy idea.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The power company should have shareholders. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's fine. That's what's good. Andrew, we're thrilled, blessed to
be joined in our third seat by the creator of
Red Dot Comics. You can go to Patreon right now
to support and gain access to her tastefully inappropriate work.
Please welcome back to the show. It's Kim Winder!
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Thank you, a.k.a. Sweet Web Comic Artist, because the other
words are bad now.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Sweet webcomic artist.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm just a sweet webcomic artist. It doesn't work, but
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I don't know what you're talking about, Kim. I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Rocky Horror.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh, Rocky Horror!
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah!
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Sorry. I should have prepared you guys.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I was too deep in Dolly. Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was in Dolly Parton world. I was like... This
doesn't fit with the words of I will. I'm on
to the next one. I mourn in order.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Kim, it's wonderful to have you here. You're not in
Southern California, but you're in another place where it's hot
and the power keeps getting knocked out. I'm told.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, it's basically like Southern California, but without all of
the fun stuff. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Y'all got wildfires up there? That's fun. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Lots.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
On standby all weekend. Know several people that lost their homes.
It's been wonderful.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Hell, yeah. What a time to be alive, you know?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But fuck Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But fuck Trump. Yeah. I think we can all agree
on that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Let's start.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Let's do that. That's the starter pistol for the Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Right now we're doing a show, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Tim, we're going to get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell
the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about Meta's settlement of $ 17 billion,
which is apparently not nearly enough. Because at a certain level,
I don't know the difference between big numbers. Sometimes I'll
confuse billion with million, even though I know... that like
(08:49):
you know a million seconds is 11 days and a
billion seconds is 37 years i know there's a big
difference but like it's just like at a certain level
my brain can't do it so i hear 17 billion
i'm like well that's that's good right that's fuck fuck
them yeah we got your ass uh and then you
see the stock price like barely move and it's like
fuck it wasn't enough we didn't do enough we gotta
(09:11):
we gotta keep going we'll talk about that we'll talk
about chris hansen's totally chill response to the new A24
Robert Pattinson movie about him called Primetime that looks intense.
Intensity in ten cities, as one of the lacrosse players
that I lived next to in college used to say.
(09:33):
We'll talk about a teacher who went viral yesterday on
the internet because she has in her second grade classroom
a designated fart corner, which, I don't know, I I
think it's interesting. I think it's an interesting thought experiment.
And we are going to ask the question, hey, what's
(09:54):
going on? Why are all these celebrity deaths happening? And
the answer is, of course, that we are approaching the
celebrity death apocalypse. We'll explain why that is. There is
actually more celebrity deaths, more and more celebrity deaths. We'll
explain why that is at the end of the episode.
That's called a tease, folks. I've been doing this for years.
(10:16):
Before we get to any of that shit, Kim, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Recently, ugly dogs. We just adopted a puppy, and he's
objectively not attractive. But it sent me down a rabbit
hole because... he was at the shelter for a few
days and no one wanted to adopt him, even though
he was a brand new baby and puppies usually go
(10:46):
by fast. But yeah, I just wanted to know about
ugly dogs. And I found several.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How ugly are we talking about for your dog?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh, he's incredibly ugly. Falcor from the never ending story.
But if he had less hair and eyes that went,
The other way.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Oh, cute. I love a fucking dog.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
He's adorable. I love him. But.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Falkor is cute. I had a dog that looked like Falkor,
and I would brag about how cute my dog was.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, but Falkor can be tweaked enough where you're like.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, where you're like, dude, Jesus Christ. Damn, damn.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Damn, dude.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Don't get me wrong. He's the sweetest little soul, but...
He's an uggo.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And like sometimes I'll go like I that same dog
that I'm talking about had eyes that like went in
different directions. But that to me made him cuter. But yeah,
I'm I'm assuming if he was in the pound, he
would sit. People will be like, there's something fucked up
about this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I loved him immediately because he was just like such
a sweetheart. but I was worried. I'm like, is there
something medically wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
He's fine. We got them all already checked out at
the vet. He's good, but I just ugly dogs.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It was ugly dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Just sit, you know, just sitting there in the, in
the pound after all their brothers and sisters are gone
being cuddled. But you know what?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That was my thought.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Guess what?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Guess what? Those dogs are being grabbed by families that
might not be as serious about getting a dog. You know,
they're getting ones.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They're getting cuddled by families who are just like in
it for the cuteness, but not may not be in
it for the long haul. Whereas you are you love
this dog for its heart, for its very soul.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
For its personality.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And that's something, I think. I bet ugly dogs actually
have it better. If they do find a home, I
bet they, in the end, have it a little better
than their cute, pretty siblings.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I feel like it's like those scam emails that intentionally
have typos and stuff because it's harder to get by
the filter. But once you get by the filter, you're
super in. If someone read this thing from your bank
that had typos and was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're
going to give you the money.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And it's like, if the ugly dog gets by the filter,
it already did the hard part.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Is that how they do? Is that why they do that?
They're like, yeah, they're screening out. Yeah. People who aren't
complete idiots, essentially.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, it's like, I feel like I've read two different theories.
One is just like, it just happened to work and
it just sort of organically became, you know, the thing.
Or it's hard to think, like, maybe it was intentional.
But yeah, they just spam literally any email address or text,
you know, phone number they can ever find. Sure. And
(14:06):
it's just like, it's like a pre-screening. If someone takes
this thing that they got seriously, they are way more
likely to be a mark.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right, right, right. You don't have to waste your time, yeah.
I mean, this person must be desperate. Look at how
they're writing.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They're just lonely, guys.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're all just ugly dogs on the inside.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We are all ugly dogs. Damn. What is, Kim, something
you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Underrated? That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I feel.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm coming at your ass today. It's going to be
a real confrontational question and answer session.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Cooling blankets.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
All right. Explain this to me.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I don't think I'm in perimenopause. I'm a bit young
for that. I'm 35, so it's in the range, but
it's still young. I'm hot as fuck all the time.
And cooling blankets have just been fantastic for me. And
I don't see anyone talking about it because, I don't know,
(15:14):
we all praise AC so much. But that's expensive too.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Is the cooling blanket the one with the fan under
the blanket or no?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, it's just the type of fabric that can breathe.
So it's still cozy, but I'm not sweating my ass
off at night anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I have to buy one of these.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Especially SoCal, I know it. It's awful when it gets hot,
especially next month. September is usually the worst.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
September, for whatever reason. I don't fucking know. It's so stupid.
I don't know. Is September a good hottest month? No. What?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Pumpkin spice? Fuck you. It's 95.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, this is rad.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Cooling blankets.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I need the illusion of a blanket. for like psychological purposes,
but I don't need the physical presence of a blanket.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
See, there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah. What are the, so my issue is with, with
this premise of cooling blankets, when I go visit my parents,
they have blankets on their bed that are like, we
stay there for two weeks in the summer. They have
blankets on the bed that are like, I guess, summer blankets,
you know, they're designed, they're very thin blankets. But when
(16:29):
it's too light, I don't feel like I have a blanket. Yeah,
like Andrew said, psychologically, I feel like I need something.
Are they heavy and cool, or are they very lightweight?
I feel like I just have a sheet on me
when I'm under a thin blanket.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Mine is that, I don't know what the fabric is,
but that really kind of fuzzy, cozy feeling.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like fleece?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but it's breathable. I don't want to say it's
fleece because.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Because that makes me sound.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's medical advice if you do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Talk to your doctor.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I will say, the reason I asked about the fan
one is I went to.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was just visiting someone who I didn't know very
well for the first time. And they were like, we'll
just give you the whole house tour. And one of
the parts of the tour was the master bedroom... Her
and her husband were on very different temperatures, and she
had some shit that was like, it was like a
fan with a hose that went under her side of
(17:37):
the bed. So she was sort of like getting a
fan only under the sheets. Wow. That was like a product.
I have no idea what the hell that was. I
thought maybe that's what a cooling blanket was. But it
was basically like a personal fan.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Air conditioner?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, there was an air conditioner with extra steps.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, it was that. Okay, so this is not that.
This is just like a piece of cloth that has
intrinsic cloth properties.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, ShamWow, but for cooling.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Din Tai Fung.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Din Tai Fung.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It is so pricey and it's not as good. And
previously living in SoCal, there are so many fucking better options.
So many and way cheaper.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I will just say one as the Chinese representative here, um, that, uh,
the best thing about that is cause it's just like,
you just gotta like let white people have a thing
every like decade or so. Like they'll discover one thing. Um,
but yes, I, I should just say first off, you're
absolutely correct. However, it's so hard to talk. your like
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white friends into just trying the place that's like a
tenth of the price and just as good right so
i've kind of given up personally but you are correct
i i.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Feel validated given i'm a white lady uh people shouldn't
take me seriously but no you're super correct on this
one oh thank you we went to din tai feng
a few months ago and it was just like this
is $ 200 and it's shit. The old place by our old,
our house was way better in $ 40. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Go to, go to any one. It's basically the premium.
Like once they start marketing towards, Oh, marketing towards white people,
or I went to the one in Glendale and it
was all white employees on the like servers. And I
was like, wow, this is weird.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's telling.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
There's a weird vibe. The DIN stands for dinner. That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, it's just like the thing that white people have
heard of and they could like take it in and
then that allowed the company to like, you know, franchise,
God knows how many at this point, but.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The buns are so soft. They invented that, right? You
can do better. All of the only ones.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's those breadsticks though.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah. Those aren't really fucking good.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
All right. Well, fucked in Typhoon. And just to your
alternative is just finding a place close by to you
that has good.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Just like local Chinese restaurants.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, I would shout out Sunny Dumpling House in Lake Forest.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's in Orange County. That's what we're going to Din
Tai Fung for.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
They have some good shit.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I would say for the general across-the-country audience, probably more
Southern California, but I suspect this is everywhere, is... Asian,
like Gen Z Asian people love to tell you where
to go. So, and they are giving actual advice.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Just stop a kid with a broccoli haircut on the street.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No, I'm just, I'm like, find a, find a lowered
Acura and fucking, no, but get on TikTok and they
will just actually tell you the actual best place. It's
like pretty, it's pretty like good actually.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Asian people love talking about where to eat. Ask Gen Z.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ask a Gen Z Asian person. That's how they'll make money. Yeah.
All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back
and talk about the news. And we're back.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And....
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Uh, yeah. So 17 billion is a big number, right?
I'm not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That seems big.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's moderate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
They were being sued apparently for $ 100 billion. This is meta. Yeah.
For doing things that are harmful to children and teenagers
while knowing that they were harmful. That that's the thing
that like, I feel like maybe this will be in
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the Sorkin movie. Yeah. But they did all this bad stuff, like,
knowing that it was bad. And now they're like, we
said we're sorry, okay? And, like, this is supposed to
be a... It's being covered as, like, this is the
tobacco industry moment for the tech industry. But I was just, like,
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so annoyed to... I went and... looked at the stock market,
looked at the stock trade, the trading price for Meta,
which I do anytime I'm hoping something bad has happened
to one of these companies. And it was up at
the end of the day that this was announced. And
people are like saying not as bad as it could
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have been, even though they were essentially admitting to making
a product that is addictive and harmful to kids and
like hiding what they knew and not reacting to what
they knew in a humane way. But I don't think
people fully grasp how thoroughly fucked up what is being
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revealed in these studies and what it would take for
a company like Meta to pay $ 17 billion to try
to put something behind them.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
We're all pretty chronically online, so we can see in
real time the damage that it can do and what
they let go by while other people may not and
just see headlines because my bread and butter is meta
Instagram's my biggest platform but it is so fucked on
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what I have seen and reported yet nothing happens and
they make these big waves about doing all the right
things but truly they don't give a fuck as long
as they get their ad money.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They truly can't do... The thing that's been true about
all of these platforms from the start is they can't
actually police the stuff. They can't change it without a
huge investment in... police they i don't know that it
would destroy it like they could actually like have moderators
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and like moderate things and but they would destroy their
bottom line yeah destroy the company yeah they would have
to hire too many people right they would be a
moderation company first yes yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Do you guys remember when instagram used to have a
thing where you scrolled to the very bottom and it
says you're caught up come back later Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Old days. But I want that so bad.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
So they're bringing it sounds like they're bringing that back
for teenagers like that sort of ethos. But it's just
going to be so easy to get around. Like they're
all they're doing is like putting a little rope around
the deathly pit of doom and being like, there, we
told them it was bad, you know?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Can I ask you a question? As far as the
bad actor, is this referencing specific things that shouldn't be
on the platform, or is this just the general practice
of social media, period? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, I think it's a combination.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But I think it's broadly how kids and teenagers use
social media and what it does to their mental health.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And it's... Like, the basics of it. Like, even if
it worked perfectly, even if they actually had all these
millions of moderators they would need to make sure people
weren't seeing fucked up stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
We're still talking about, like, just the scroll is turning
your brain to.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's bad. Yeah, yeah. I think it's less bad if
they were able to, like, moderate it in some way, but... Sure. They... Yeah,
they don't intend to... fix any of these things because
it's just it's just like too big you know it's
too big to for them to do it in any
way other than like you know if somebody created a
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place for people to physically hang out and like millions
and millions and millions of people started showing up like
you would have to hire millions and millions and millions
of people to like watch that and like organize that
and you can't just have it be running automatically which
is like how they've had this massive valuation but yeah
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i'm just like you you can tell that this is
not going to functionally change anything right if if the
people who make the decisions on like how how the
company's valued which is the only thing that they give
a fuck about like if if they're just like looks
good clear sailing smooth sailing from here then yeah they're
they're not going to actually functionally change also.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Who the fuck's getting the money from the settlement? Who
does that go to?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think it goes to the government, which they're always
good at distributing things directly to the people and not
like somehow finding a way to redistribute it. And like,
pass it on to corporations i'm sure.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I mean look this is not how it works but
it's like you could just see sort of like a
fucked up brewster's million situation where if you're getting paid
out by how much of facebook you've seen people just
like scrolling scrolling for cash yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
They actually kind of have something like that that i'm
a part of because and the It truly is. It's like,
how much time have you spent on the platform? And
we'll give you a few cents, you fucking plebe.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah. Wait, how do you... How is that organized? Is
it part of a settlement? Or it's like them being like.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's them incentivizing creators to stay online.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And if they remove me from this program, fine. I
got three bucks last month. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But it's really just... hey, stay online as long as
possible and posts will give you more money. But you
don't see shit.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Seems worth it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah. It is a little bit like because their admission
is like the product is addictive, but it's like that
is what they're selling to advertisers. Addicted people like that
is their product.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That is the entirety of their product. Making nicotine-free... Yes, exactly.
It is the same shit as the tobacco industry. That
is a good corollary.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And that shit is back. Gen Z loves smoking. Zins
came out after the tobacco settlement. We're just utterly fucked.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, when your vape explodes in your pants, of course
you're going to go back to cigarettes.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
And they do that on purpose. Just one out of
every million vapes just explodes in people's pants.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh, my God. Just the randomness.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They also kind of brilliantly moved from tobacco to, like,
as they saw that those settlements coming down they were
they got out of the tobacco business and like moved
over to food made food addictive everybody became obese and
now they're like uh what do we do next how
about back that back to zen yeah what about.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wine what happened to people liking.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Alcohol yeah they're working on it yeah they're working on it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
They're going to Big Ketamine.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's next. Let's talk about Chris Hansen. Hey, speaking of,
we need people out there watching out for the safety
of kids. And Chris Hansen has always been a trusted...
I haven't seen the movie yet, but it seems like
it's just about him being cool and normal and catching predators.
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You guys haven't. The movie's not out yet, right?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
This movie's not out, but there was a documentary that
I am searching the name of right now called Predators. Yep.
That came out last year. That was, like, one of
those things. I guess I hadn't thought about it much, but, like,
you know, this is ultimately a not... pro chris hansen
(30:46):
to catch a predator documentary just given but it's it's
like so weird to talk about because it is like
obvious entrapment right it's like not legally like like like
they break so many laws around and not break but
they don't do anything because it's like none of this
is really admissible all of these predators have just been
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sort of publicly shamed.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Public shaming but like.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
If I recall, way too many of them were not
able to be prosecuted, essentially. Right. Because this is not
law enforcement. This is just some dudes.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Right. In my mind, it's like the moral good versus
the law. And public shaming is going to go a
lot farther than the law most of the time. But...
I don't know. I don't know anything about this. So
this is super icky.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, I think the one that they followed in
the documentary that was like, it was like something like
it was like a 19 year old who was like,
like texting a 16 year old or something like that.
Like something that I think is actually like technically morally gray. Yeah.
But it was one of those things where it was like, ah,
I don't know. But it's just sort of really highlighting
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the general problem with vigilante justice, which is like, it's
just at the whim of some dude. not that like
law enforcement isn't also that, but like.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's, it was just like kind of ugly. And he got,
he kind of ends up in a pretty right wing
place that kind of helps you settle where you stand.
Damn it.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, I mean, I just like, I was like, yeah, yeah,
get them. And then you're like, wait a second, watching here.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah. So you kind of suck.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
It's just interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I mean, the, the trailer, it looks totally like deranged
and terrifying and, awesome but yeah so chris hansen has
said he's had a couple comments on the because this
is this is one of those things where it's like
a movie about a guy who is like this happened
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like 10 years ago or whatever you know 15 years
ago it's not not that long ago and so he's
like he's going on podcasts and stuff he went on
jesse waters fox news program and was like i i
Declined to even see the movie because they were trying
to get me to sign an agreement barring me from
taking legal action against A24. And people were like, oh, no,
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it was just an NDA to prevent spoilers. We were
asking everybody to sign. But he's also saying that he
should have been played by Dennis Leary for some reason.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's so funny. That's so specific.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's also like every old dad's favorite. Yeah. I should
have been played by the guy from Rescue Me.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I was about to say, Robert Pattinson fucking nailed it. Like,
I was never Team Edward, but I kind of am
seeing all his work. But to go that direction? Also
being on Jesse Waters. Like, fuck you, Chris Hansen.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It turns out he's like a monster. But he also
is now buying commercials that will run in front of
every you know, every screening of the movie where it
opens with him addressing the camera saying, I'm going to
need everyone in the theater to take a seat right
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over there, which is what he would say to the predator.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The implication of the ad is like we're predators now. Yeah.
It's an interesting opening gambit.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I do love the idea of just like an arms
race involving if there's a movie you don't like, you
buy an ad in front of it. Because presumably A24
can buy another ad slot.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
In front of his in front of that one. And
be like, where do you see this asshole? It's just
like a stack of people arguing with each other.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I just want a feature-length stack of ads before the
movie that are just a debate between two sides. before
the movie started.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He did. So that now goes on to say, now
there are more platforms than ever before where this disturbing
crime is being committed. Join us undercover every day on
my streaming network, True Blue. There was an end to
that ad where he was like, and by the way,
this movie you're about to see sucks shit. It's not even,
you know, he's going to like talk a lot of
(35:29):
trash about it. And then he was like, forced to
remove that but it is wild too.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It's so funny what it is what an amazing instinct what's.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
On his internet search history what's on chris hansen's hard
drive can we.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Look at that i know be amazing to catch chris hansen.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I mean the evidence for all the other plot twists
like right wing freaks who like are just super into
like attacking, you know, whatever. There's just such a high
incidence of those people doing the thing that they claim
to be like.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's just like for him to be right wing at
this time.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It feels weird that he's so concerned about predators, but when, yeah,
But that was the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
When you see the offices of True Blue in this documentary,
it is one of those, like, oh, right, all these
people want to be cops. They're not like, oh, the
cops aren't doing the job, so we're going to take
the community into our hands. They're like, no, we want
to be extra cops. We want to be even less
regulated than cops, but still be cops.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You want to be Batman. Yeah. Your fucking child.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like real life Batman.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
It's just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm not wearing hockey pads.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It's really.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Would say I highly recommend that documentary. It was really
illuminating over a thing I had not thought about much.
About like, oh, right. This is like a weird instinct.
And it's just like... Yeah. People like just like setting
up these fucked up stings and like the toll it
takes on the people who have to like pretend to
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be a child engaged in this is so fucked up.
Like all of it was just like, right. When you
think about the actual mechanics of it, like this is awful.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Which didn't seem to be his top concern.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, exactly. At the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about the fart corner. We'll be right back.
And we're back. And it's time to talk about the
fart corner. A second grade teacher in Georgia went viral
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after showing off her classroom's gas station on TikTok. And
by gas station, we, of course, mean a corner of
the room where students can go to fart. There's a
yellow warning sign reading gusty winds area and an assortment
of Febreze products to cover up the smell. I feel
like you need a fan in there personally. Yeah. Like
blowing it towards a window or something like that.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You said, teacher, I feel it should be innovator. Everyone
should have this.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hero.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, hero. Kids fucking stink. I fucking stink. I would
like a little area where that's just it. We're just
not going to pretend. Everyone does this. Go to the
corner and shart. My personal opinion.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Don't shard it. There's a separate corner for sharding. But yeah,
to your point about how smelly kids are, when asked
about this, she said, I have a very weak stomach,
so I cannot take it. Which is like, oh my God.
How bad do these children smell?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, yes and no. But I also like, to
your point of kids stink, I just think maybe second
grade teacher is not for you.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's a hard age.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
The actual actualization. Oh, my God. I can't talk. But
they're coming into, you know, who they are and they're
testing everything out.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
So some people. this became a big debate quickly. A
lot of people were quick to support this idea, suggesting
every classroom should have one. Some are in the Kim camp,
some would say the Kim Winder camp.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Very popular camp.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And then other people were like, Don't the one that
like draw more attention to the farter and make the
whole thing funnier to the room full of literal second graders. Yeah.
Like my first instinct, having a son who's just entered
third grade and like just thinking of his, his comprehensive
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look at his work over the last year leads me
to believe that he would find a way to turn
this into a comedy goldmine. for the entertainment of his classmates.
But maybe, so like, but I am perfectly willing to
be like the old school, baseball scouts from Moneyball where
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they're like, what are you talking about? These stats don't
matter at all. He's got to have a good jaw.
That's what makes a good ball player. If this is
actually possible to de-stigmatize, catch children this young and de-stigmatize
the human fart because she claims that she has really
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promising early results. The kids are just going there and
farting and then coming back and no one's like that
person just farted well.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Isn't it kind of like the whole six seven thing
as soon as adults hopped on it yeah it's like
backed off so you know we have a fart corner
the fart corner is no longer funny because now the
adults are in on.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
It yeah i do think you could try ruining jokes
Just try it. If you're, if you're sick of the
kids saying like all this, like, all right, everyone settled down.
Like that's the opposite. That's part of the fun. Yeah.
This feels also like an Adam Sandler bit. This feels
like him being like, oh, we're going to go far.
And it's just like Billy Madison.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah. Go to my fart closet. That actually, somebody commented
in the, and was like, I'm a teacher and we
have a fart closet, which seems, I don't like that
one as much because that, feels shameful yeah first of
all like just in terms of the physics of it
it's bad yeah because you're.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Trapped in the closet yeah you should be ashamed.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah yeah yeah i'm yes i'm out of view but
i'm also trapped in here with the unholy hell that
my lunch has just wrought so yeah seems i i
do like it as a As a little thought experiment.
The other thought experiments are, you know, little social experiments
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that teachers try are usually like, we turned half of
our class into fascists. So I like this one better.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
They have a gas chamber.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah. Recall the wave. They take, you know. This seems
a little bit more benign.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Also, yeah, take note, Mr. Beast, all your fucking social experiments.
You don't have the vision to build fart dome.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Like, if you told me that, like, a Scandinavian country,
this was just, like, very common there, I would be like, yeah, that's, like,
progressive and the sort of enlightened thing that I would
expect of them. They're like, we don't have prisons. We
just have knitting groups that people join. And, like, they
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come out fully rehabilitated. And, yeah. You know? Like, this
feels like something to aspire to.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
The fart yurt.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Just leaving your kid outside to sleep in the snow
and fart. That tickles me in a way.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah. All right. Let's get to the news that's been
dominating lately. this week is the passing of celebrities like
Dolly Parton, Tim Curry. Obviously, we had Hayden Panettiere last week.
And then, you know, Yuyoi Kusama, the great artist from Japan.
(43:51):
We found out about her passing. She had passed 10
days ago, but I've seen a lot of comments being
like 2026 has been like, well, what the fuck 2026? Um,
which is something that people have been saying basically every
year for the past 10 years. Uh, our writer, Jahan, uh,
compiled a list. 2025 has been the craziest year for
celebrity deaths in a long time. Is it me? Or
(44:13):
has there been an extra amount of famous people dying
within the last couple of days from 2024? 2023 has
been one of the worst years for celebrity death. Uh, 20,
2016 worst celebrity death year ever. Now, that's the one
that I remember. That was a major talking point back
in 2016 because that was when Prince David Bowie, Carrie Fisher,
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Muhammad Ali, Alan Rickman, and George Michael all passed away.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
That one was a big one.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's a big one.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, last year outside of Diane Keaton, I don't really...
Diane Keaton, Jane Goodall.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
There were a lot, I feel like. Jane Goodall. Dick Cheney.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Charlie Kirk, Rob Reiner. Okay, fine. I take it back.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Couple Kings.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Chaney.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
But 2016 was... Fuck Kirk.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
A GoFundMe campaign back in 2016 was launched to help
protect Betty White from 2016. What a time, guys. You
remember that?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Just... Joke-ass GoFundMes.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Joke-ass GoFundMes because we didn't have enough disasters to be funding.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Harambe. Why isn't Harambe on this fucking list?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Sticks out for Harambe. But the BBC claimed back in
2026 that twice as many notable people died in 2016
compared to 2015.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
but like it's it's just such a vague thing yeah
so i've always been like what no first of all
these things don't come in threes because like if you
just look at this week people were like and you
had hayden panettiere uh dolly parton tim curry it's over
and then like yoy kusama and like all you know
(45:58):
you can really thin slice it however you want and
be selective But experts are saying that this is not
an anomaly. 2016 was actually the start of a looming
celebrity death apocalypse, which is like sounds crazy. But there
has been a major spike in celebrity culture beginning in
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the 1960s, thanks to TV and New Hollywood. And, you know,
there's just like we create more. We've created more and
more celebrities since the 1960s. And like there, you try
and think of like celebrities prior to that, there's like
a handful. And then starting in the sixties, you know,
(46:42):
there's just like more and more famous people. And those
famous people are getting older, which makes sense. But I
also think that we are in a period, like there's
also like a first mover thing where like, these are
the people who are like in their seventies and eighties
(47:02):
right now we're celebrities in a monoculture.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
So they're like bigger celebrities. Like, yeah. I remember when
I was a kid, like everyone was talking about how
the only people who were like able to go on
tours for like arena tours were like people in their sixties,
like Springsteen and the Rolling Stones and like people who
are like of that age. And I think it was,
the theory was that like, these were, people who came
(47:29):
along when there was just like a real monoculture and
like be becoming a rock star was like Matt, like
the biggest you could possibly be. And then they're able
to like continue to build fame. And even beyond that,
even as like more people are famous. And so, yeah,
you just have these giants out there looming who are
(47:51):
now like aging into a time when they are like,
you know, more likely to pass away.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I wonder if like in 40 years, because modern culture
is gone now, will we still have this kind of
mourning for people? Cause it's always a shame when someone passes,
regardless if it's old age or untimely and very tragic.
It's just, it feels like no one's going to care.
(48:17):
And I'm kind of sad for that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah. I mean, we'll, we'll see in like, 2070 when
it's all the TikTok pull-ups.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
All the influencers. Like, oh, every again today. The TikToker
that went viral in 2019 died.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Oh no, the horse guy?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Beloved youtuber yeah but there there's actually been this is
actually a historic trend or a historical trend like a
there's been a steady rise in deaths of notable people
and also like the existence of notice notable people since
the 1700s like before the 1700s it was like well
the only notable people are like The king and Jesus.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Like, you know what I mean? And then, like, it really, like,
started to climb. And that guy came back. Yeah. Then
it started to climb in the mid to late 20th
century into the 2000s. And then, like, now you just see, like, the...
the number of, they have it charted as like births
of and deaths of notable figures. Because that must come down. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
I guess that makes sense. Yeah. Europe's next top Viscount.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
This is the chart of the births of notable people
and deaths of notable people.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I'm going to say this. I don't think I appreciated
how big the baby boom was until I was looking
at this chart. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Well, it's the baby boom and also just like.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Oh, no, that's free. Yeah, never mind. Yeah. That's like
all the vaudeville people dying.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Charlie Chaplin lived until, what, the 90s? 80s?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah. There's only one death I want. I don't need
to say it.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Right. No, you don't need to.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I have a.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Bottle of fucking champagne that I really want to open.
Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah. Yeah, but it's, uh, so it does. Before I
was just like, oh, people are just like trying to
make something go viral and they'll like find a way to,
but it does make sense that there's just, there are
more famous people. because there is money to be made
off of famous people. But also, that's not to take
(50:42):
anything away from the passing of massive celebrities who were indeed...
I guess that's one thing that we can say now
that I think is an improvement, is that if there
is a Dolly Parton out there, we're going to find her. Yeah,
that's a wonderful way to look at it. You know,
(51:04):
like she's in a previous age when we weren't when
there wasn't a celebrity generating factory out there. It would
have she might have just been the most entertaining person
in her holler. Yeah. But now it's easier.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
But it still might be because to get famous now,
you also have to have this like. like gene for
attention grabbing yeah that is like maybe counterintuitive to or
or like the amount of time you have to spend
on that is maybe counterproductive to like this the number
(51:42):
of nine to fives that you end up being able
to write because you're too busy studying metrics on tiktok.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah yeah you mean like would it would dolly parton
if she were 14 today, would she still be blowing up?
Speaker 2 (51:58):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
There's so many unboxing videos you can fucking watch, but
how many people wrote, I will always love you? That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
I feel like some of the I will always love
you brainpower had to go to, oh, what's the next
unboxing trend? That's maybe the tragedy.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
People not trusting their talent and going with that. I've
fallen into that plenty of times.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Miles highlighted this kid who's a songwriter who was going
viral a couple weeks ago on here as one of
the songs we wrote out on, who's just this young
kid from, I think, the UK. It's just like, here's
a song that I wrote last night, and plays it.
It's incredible, and everybody... in, in the, like all these
(52:50):
like famous songwriters are in the comments being like, holy shit,
like you're, you're amazing. So like maybe there is a
way for like just authentically gifted people to just be like, Hey, uh, I,
this is my first video. I'm not like, Hey, uh,
so just quick update after yesterday's unboxing video. I will
always love you. Hey guys.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
That's the hope. That is the hope.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
It could be the sign of the times too, because
the influencer trend is dying. People are getting pretty fucking
sick of seeing rich people flaunt themselves for views. Yeah.
So I saw a video yesterday or even this morning,
I think a lady bought a house, nothing crazy, but
there was a little pond with a fish in it.
(53:33):
She built a bigger pond for the fish and it
was the most delightful video I've seen in a long
fucking time. And yeah, I think a lot of people
are going back to that. Just something enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I thought you were going to say there was like a,
the mob went after her or something.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Well, that was towards the end. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
I've actually, I know those fish and that's actually a
sign that those fish are uncomfortable and frightened. They're sending.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Those fish were absolutely, absolutely in the stamp files, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Kim, such a pleasure having you as always. Where can
people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I'm all over the Internet. Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, X, Twitter,
Blue Sky. But if you like dirty stuff, Patreon. Pay me.
I'll show you my feet.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Not really.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
I'll draw it.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah. Draw your feet.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
I'll draw my feet for you.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
You sickos.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah. Boyd's. B-O-I-D-S. It's a webcomic by my friend Dave.
He actually was one of the founders of Cyanide and Happiness,
like old school. And he makes great shit. I love
his work. I think other people should follow it.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
There you go. Love, sight, night, and happiness.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Great.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Andrew, where can people find you? Is there a work
of media you've been enjoying? Oh, man.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, listen to Starter Track, Andrew T. on social media.
I'm not even not done. I've barely scratched the surface
of this book, but it seems like it's going to
be extremely my shit. I got the new DJ Screw autobiography,
or not autobiography, sorry. The DJ Screw biography by Lance
Scott Walker. So far, it's good. I don't know. I
realized I haven't read a ton of like, musician biographies
(55:24):
so that's also like kind of like oh yeah that's
the thing i don't normally do but it's cool anyway
so far so good they're always.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Like really good writers too i feel like not always
but i feel like a lot of the time they're
like oh yeah i could have been a writer.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Oh sorry not autobiography uh but yeah oh it's a
biography yeah yeah i misspoke i misspoke but yeah yeah
yeah Yeah, maybe that's ghostwriting. Who knows? Anyway.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Anyways, great. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien,
Blue Sky, Jack OB, the number one Instagram. Jack underscore
O underscore Brian. I liked a tweet from Bailey on Twitter.
He said, sorry, have to unmatch. Found someone holding a
bigger fish than you on their profile. Uh, you can
find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist.
(56:11):
We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. Uh, you can
go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening
to it. And there at the bottom, you will find
the footnotes, which is where we link off to the
information that we talked about in today's episode. We also
link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
When Miles is out, we do like to ask Super
Producer Justin Conner. Justin, is there a song that you
(56:32):
think the people might enjoy?
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yeah, I'm going to put everyone on to a vastly
underrated Aaliyah track. Speaking of legends who've passed on. This
is a song called Came to Give Love off of
the album One in a Million back in 96. It's
just a very smooth track. classic R & B vibe.
(56:55):
The guitar licks going all the way through Aaliyah doing
her thing. Timbaland spitting a little verse. Makes me very nostalgic,
but reminds me of like summertime Chicago. And yeah, it's
a fun vibe. So you can check out Came to
Give Love by Aaliyah and Timbaland in the footnotes.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Hell yeah. Footnotes. I do also just want to shout
out 2001 Live at 25 Years Ago Live, which is...
a Twitter account that's just basically live tweeting the year
2001 right now. And it did, it did just, you know,
Aaliyah just passed on the 25 years ago feed recently.
(57:33):
And somebody came in and was like, man, I really hope, uh,
Hope nothing else bad happens anytime soon. But yeah, we're
coming up on 25 years.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
I got hope for Gen Z. That is a Gen
Z ran account for fucking sure.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
It's like 10 posts a day. That's really.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
That's.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
More than actual news was happening in 2001.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
It's an amazing.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Where are you finding stuff?
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Simpler time.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
All right. That's going to do it for us this week.
We are back on Monday with a new iconograph and
to tell you what was trending over the weekend. And
have a great weekend, everybody. Talk to you all then. Bye.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Co-produced by Victor Wright.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Co-written by J.M.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
McNabb.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Edited and engineered by Justin Connery.
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