Ninja Goebbels In The Hot Seat? Oligarch TikTok Bad? 01.29.26

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Man, we got two so far, two D one volleyball
players in our Blair.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, yeah, I love Blair.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Year of D one. That should just be what we
do now.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
You play D one volleyball, can't have play sports because
both of you are tall, right.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Play sports? Not good at well, the sport I'm best
at is ice hockey, ironically, but other than but I'm
but I do love basketball and soccer, and I play
soccer terribly most of the time.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, I played basketball in high school. I was not
a college athlete alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey, I'm from Wisconsin. I was too.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, I was starting I was starting five on the
Xanax abuse team at u C. Fun. That's fun called.
We called ourselves the time travelers.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's such a poetic way to describe.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I would say time benders.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, whatever, I'm time bending.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
My other friend was ear bending. He was in the
midst of a crisis. And it was a windy day.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
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one day only, it's National corn Chip Day. That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Nothing fucking else on the schedule, just nationally. This is
It's rare when you get just one fucking holiday. It's
Cornship Day. Also for my millennials, it's Andrew Keegan's birthday.
If you remember the actor Andrew Keegan, who's forty six
years old.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
What do I remember Andrew Keagan from.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You don't remember Andrew? Look at this face? Check?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Ten things I hate about you?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, ten things I hate about you? Come on, look
at this face check. Tell me if you remember this guy,
this stud Andrew Keagan.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh Andrew Key then Kes dude, Yes, yes, you want
to start a cult? And yeah Venice, Yeah he did, right,
didn't he?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
When I moved out to LA he had a cult going. Yeah,
a cult on a late simmer.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah. That's again, that must have been why my subconscious
was saying, point that out, point that. It's also I think,
speaking of other people that have brought us weird things.
It's Oprah's birthday. Thanks for doctor Phil and doctor Oz,
I mean, and uncle Charlie Wilson seventy two years old,
and those of us that love the Gap band, baby
Charlie Wilson's birth that's I had to make up for

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the lack of good days. But Charlie Wilson's birthday like.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Good due corn chips, favorite corn chip? Does it have
a chip? What we think?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I mean, that's a tortilla chip. I feel like a
tortilla chips. It's own. If we're going like corn chip,
I got the freedo of the the chili cheese freedo.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I love that thick corn chip. So you you distinguished
between like the white corn chip of like a toastedo
and the thick yellow corn chip of a.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, there's like I think there's a there's a tortilla chip,
like really the spirit of a cornship. And then there's
whatever deep fried paste of corn meal that Friedo Ley
has called corn chips as like its own genre of chip,
you know what I mean? Like even Dorito's aren't you?
And like a tortilla ChiPT to me, Dorito's are Dorito's?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, So you know, I like to say call me
oj because if it's got edo, I'm winning. There you go,
Dorito Tostito, Judge Lancido, Judge Lancido, There you go. All right.
My name is jacko bro.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
The fuck or they fucking about?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
My name is Jack O'Brien, Heyka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
mister Miles Grast.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Miles Great Ka Sinners has everything you want. It has
everything you need. It has everything in the movie that
you wish you could see. It has all the right
scenes and exactly the right time.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
But variety.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
He doesn't like it, and you kind of know anyway,
shout out to Johnny Davis for that. We all know
a lot of wordy to do.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, well, yeah, yes, it's been nominated for sixteen Academy Awards. Yeah, yeah,
it's got a lot of work to do before it wins.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
The work to do, Yeah, it's a variety's probably saying
a lot of work to do to prove itself against Titanic.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Right the week after it came out, made like shocking
amounts of money, published an article saying, uh, yeah, you know,
I guess it did pretty well, but this is it's
still got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Look, this is this is the great juxtaposition because Christy
with Sidney Sweeney came out. The Christie tweet was Christy
featuring Sweeney, the boxing Trailblazer debut with one point three million,
the R rated blah blah blah. But then The Sinners one.
Sinners has a mass sixty one million dollars in its
global debut. It's a great start result for an original
R rated horror film. Yet the Warner Brothers release has

(05:43):
ninety million dollars price tag before global marketing expensive, so
profitability remains all ways away. Plasting all of that fucking
air just because Shade Ryan Kugler in the cast, especially
Ryan Cougler for upsetting the traditional profit share.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Scheme getting some of that money getting the rights to
a movie. Yeah, they were also pretty excited about Chris
Pratt's new movies ability to like make six million dollars
on a seventy five million dollar budget because because it
was because there was a snowstorm. They certain certain movies
they're looking.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
They make excuses for mercy because of the snowstorm.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, they were just like, you know, I mean, it's
it knocked off Avatar for to become the number one movie,
And they acknowledged that it was a little light. But
then immediately we're like, but a big snowstorm, you know,
big smart snowstorm. Miles. Enough about us, We're thrilled to
be joined. Enough about Chris Pratt. We're thrilled to be

(06:43):
joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian
actor writer who came up in the New York Improvent Theater.
Scenes had some nice reviews, and regional publications like The
New Yorker called their acting virtuosic. The New York Times,
who called them were let liss uh There, the host
of the podcast where Seeing You Please Welcome Back to
the show fry Pass.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Most on the beat. What's a most.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hello, I'm happy as a claim to be here.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
My was that was that's actually going to backtrack us
to call me O J because I'm consuming rito.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
No call me O J. Because if it's got EO
up there as in Fredo Dorito TOASTEDO.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I know, but what's the.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Judge lance judge when M yeah, yeah, it's a it's
a it's an easy reference to.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I got another vocal stem from that era. Jack, I'm
just remembering that. Just say hi to Judgo. That's what
we would just scream in class and get in trouble
in nineteen ninety four during dog troll.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's creative.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, we were just Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Did you watch the j Trial at school?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
When at certain times one of my teachers would put
it on the.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Verdict we put on in Spanish class. I watched though
Ja Verdict in Spanish class.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
But was it the only like TV? Did everyone else
have to come watch with you?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
No? No, we had TVs. We had uh the rulled
that thang in yeah East classroom, shout out a Lexington
Catholic in Lexning, Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I remember budget, big av budget.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Big priest budget at our school.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I remember because it was like ninety I think I
just started fifth grade and though we were showing in
fifth grade, well.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Nora, yeah, we seen eleven in eleventh grade.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But when when the verdict happened, like the one my
one cool teacher, this dude, mister Meyer was like, it's like, hey, dude,
oj It's not guilty. And I was like hell me
and like me and the.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Other black like you're handing you a lollipop. Whay he
says it.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah he was, he was. I think he was kind
of like I think he knew because we were always
asking me, like judge, hey it's gonna be guilty.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's Oja not guilty.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And yeah, anyway, there was a small celebration between me
and my homie Johnny were.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
My aunt Mary Rose is like an la icon. She
was a principal in the school district here and my
aunt Rows and Jay, they were sisters. I loved them
to death. Both passed on. But when the car chase happened,
m M. They drove to his house.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
They were on that because a lot of people did
do that. They were like, Yo, this shit is we
we know the police may not know where he's going,
but we know where he's going to get on TV.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Truly, not even TV. They just loved being a part
of like the celebrity culture. They're like, oh, like you
could see this, like we just filed but went to
church with us. It's like those cool little like la things.
So they truly and I feel like people forget. It's
not like you saw it on your phone or someone
text to you, like you just had to see the
chase in the midd Let's drive to his home that
we know where it is.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, exactly Body of Christ that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
He could have been a Communia minister. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, the big story was Eddie peace with them and
that was huge.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, be with you. That's terrible. Uh, we're thrilled to
have you here. We're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to
tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're
talking about today. We're gonna check in with teenage and
teenage and he's in a bit of a hot seat.
A hot seat. Yeah, it seems like he might be

(10:41):
catching the l for Trump having to backtrack on this.
This is making him look weak man like mega mad
at him. Now, so we're going to talk about that.
There's a lot of fingerpointing going on there. We're gonna
talk about TikTok and there with censorship of Yeah, this
seems to be going on. Yeah, we're kind well, you know,

(11:03):
mesdata's a lot of people are drawing circumstantial connections, and
they keep like being like.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's untestable, how vague it is.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, they keep acting like it's impossible to test this,
But it does seem pretty clear that certain words such
as epstein and anti ice messaging, So suddenly your message
is not going to be appearing the way that other messages. Well,
so we're going to talk about that, but TikTok's not alone.
We're going to talk about what Meta is doing to

(11:34):
hold shit back. We're going to talk about what Google
is doing, because they're all, they're all complex, Amazon, they're all,
they're all in on Apple love that plenty more. But
first mo, we do like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Oh, yes, I yesterday I googled When did I put
it down?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Are there sleeves for sealing fans to make them more
beautiful sleeves.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
This is a great idea, damn.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Because I first of all, I also find them so ominous.
I don't like them, and I'd rather chandlier. But I'm renting,
so I'm I'm trying to find something I can stick
that won't fly off, but it is decorative and also
not because when I search that, it was a bunch
of like fleece covers that looked so corny.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So that's that's what I'm looking up right now.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's such a good idea because you
never see anybody do anything fun with the ceiling fans.
It's just like, I feel like you could get some
fun designs on there and it could like turn into
an optical illusion or some shit.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I was looking at the applicase for like molding, like
you know how there's like like roses or like in
the corners of like Rococo or Versailles style stuff. I
was looking at appl case for that, but I'm still
worried something might fling off.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah. That is also you do having a seven year
old in the house, you start to remember that there's
a lot of fun shit you can do with ceiling
fans by like throwing things into them or having them
like sitting on the edge of it. And I don't
do it, but I remember now that I did do

(13:09):
it when I was a kid, and my sons like to.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like to throw them fly.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah yeah, just like what why use a food processor
when you have a ceiling fan?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know exactly?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think that works sleeves for ceiling fans. I'm not like,
we get a lot of ideas on here that I'll
pretend a lot like they're good. We hear a lot
of ship this is this is a good idea. You
should you should get some you get good.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'm just gonna applie.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Damn, sorry, no I can't.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm just getting the copy right in the patent registered
right now.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Beautiful sleeves dot com.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Beautiful fans sleeves, fancy fans.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Leeves, fans sleeves, fancy sleeves.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, we'll work on it.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, okay, wonderful.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
In fact, like if you if you've got them to
puffy or like, they have to be dynamic, yeah, they
have to be completely aerodynamic.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm just it was like a doily style like that
would just create so much drag. It just like breaks
your fans.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, at first, I was picturing, like, you know, the
toilet seat covers that old people have, Yeah, the fuzzy ones.
Picturing that, but that doesn't work quite as well.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Like low pile carpet.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, low pile carpet.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Carpet would look fine, fun, although god damn, just wooden
fan blade get so dusty. I was gonna say that thing. Yeah,
a lot of effort, A lot of effort.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Starts looking like a David Lynch movie, something out of
eraser Head, you know that visually but.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Physically.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
No, No, what's something you think is underrated?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Underrated? Being boring? Is what I said.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Like I'm feeling like anytime I don't know I'm going
to parties or meeting people, I I don't want I
don't want to talk about anything or be interesting or
be interested by anybody. I would love to like look
at a shared thing.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
And like you don't want to be interested by you.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I want to like look at like something in front
of us both and have an opinion.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I'm like TV or a movie, sure, or even just
like the design on this you.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Know ceiling fans sleeve literally actually do wait?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
So what is that what's your worst nightmare version of
going out? If you're like saying, when I go out,
I'm not trying to be entertained, what's like the high
stress version of going out for you? Then if you're like, man,
being boring is actually way better.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Than high stress.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Most things are I don't go out a lot, sure
I don't, or like, I guess when people feel like
I need to say who I am or what I do.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Be interesting yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and put an interesting
spin on it.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
That or like yeah, like I do feel like that,
or like to receive someone away when you're in a
space where you can feel like you're supposed to receive
some of a certain way, like like when people are
like I do this blah blah blah, and and you
want to have a normal conversation where you're like, oh what,
like what's that like? But there's an unspoken expectation that
like you don't ask that you just know or have
a certain respect. It's like there isn't I don't know.

(16:14):
I could just be like making just general social and
more back down.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
But that shit happens in LA a lot though, too,
because I'm sure like any big city where there's like
an industry too, where people will like to like lead
with that or like just sort of set that up
and like, I don't know, can we just be like
two fucking people holding a beer and like yeah, that shit,
it's weird over there, huh right.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
And genuinely and I like, and I I don't mean,
I hope not to sound like you know, like the
nihilists lead of like you know, a Russian novel, but
I'm like, and it's not that people suck, it's that
like I think people feel we need to do.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
This, like because we underrate boring and just chilling right.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Right and just human. Yeah, yeah, because I think that's right.
I think the version that our society like points us
towards is born like the version of ourselves, which is
like talking about your job right a fuck.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
And that's such a huge like delinear like a punctuation
in your evolution with your friend groups too. Like when
we were all when we were all unemployed kicking, it
was so pure. Yeah, but then when the when the
toil gets introduced and the full time toil gets introduced,
like it really fucks up our capacity to do like
the old thing, which is just like man, let's just

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fucking stare at this like dumb show, or talk about
this thing and laugh together because a lot of times,
like dude, I'm so fucking ground down.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
And genuinely, I also think it's like a lack of
permission where it's like I think people would if that
was given permission more, but people feel they have to
because of social norms, like have to talk about certain
things or share certain things about their life or like
it's not I don't think it's something most people want
to do.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Right right, Yeah, I feel you what is something you
think is overrated?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
This could be this could be inflammatory to some people,
but I think Miyazaki.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Some people, yes.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Go on, I'm open. I'm open to.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I don't think I mean as an artist as created
push pushing genre and form completely rated like fine over
red it. I think one. I was pretty allergic to
him when I was younger because I was on Tumblr
a lot, and it would be people who made that
their whole personality and if you didn't like it, it
was a referendum on your taste.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I hate.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Just because I don't. I don't want people to freak out.
Miyazaki as a filmmaker sucks.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
I know, I'm actually going to go there because not
as a filmmaker, I think not bad. I'm not saying bad,
I'm saying overrated, especially in terms of because I saw
Castle in the Sky and we over the weekend because
I was like, I'm older, I want to give it
a try. I want to see it. And when I
watched it with an open perspective, I went with a
friend who really really loves him, and I felt affirmed

(19:04):
in my impulse that while it's beautiful and wonderful, it's
a there's a lot of internalized misogyny under the performance
of like a female empowered voice. But I always say
people can't tell the difference between a director who hates
women or a director who hates women and loves his mom.

(19:25):
And this feels like it falls under hates women, loves
his mom, because it's like, it felt like these ideas
not quite it felt like simplicity driven from an inability
to accept complex versus an understanding.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Of the complexity.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
And so what we harald him as is this feminist
and complex to these very like beautiful ideas of humanity.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I think we're giving him too much.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
And then my friend told me his whole things about
like identity, family support, was that like his family said
he was like a horrible and he himself was I
was not there, So it's not someone I don't know.
It just doesn't feel embodied.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Sure sure, sure, yeah, yeah, I mean I definitely won't
push back on that because I think just generally just
Japanese culture, No, no, it is no, it is very misogynistic,
like to its core, so that's always gonna it. All
that I think definitely bleeds through in a lot of
like sort of like those depictions.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
But help me out though, because people what I hear
is people say he's like feminists and like he has
female leads that are empowered, and I was watchingly I
was like no.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Just no, yeah, I mean I think I haven't seen
castle in this guy in a long time. But I
think for a lot of the people, they probably limit
it to like two to three Miyazaki films and just
draw everything from that and are so hyper fixated on
their love of that that it's like any fandom where
I think it gets because even for me, yeah, growing
up in just like with Japanese, like I'm Japanese, so ambiently,

(20:50):
Miyazaki was like always around I wasn't a fan of
every single thing, but I think it's like, on one hand,
because he just completely created a whole other form like
animation and an aesthetic that, to your point, is like
properly rated. Yeah, I think going deeper is totally fair.
But yeah, I mean I think the I think, like

(21:10):
with any fandom, absolutes are probably.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Not great, but I think, yeah, that's probably what I'm
getting at.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it's everyone. Everyone is a human
that's flawed on some level. But I think, yeah, I
don't know that it depends on your outlook. And I
think for sure growing up in like the Tumblr Miyazaki
era is like poisonous because even was like, oh my god, dude,
what the just like, please leave this shit.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Alone, like alone, she does not need to be cut up, Like.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
I will say, I think a lot of Miyazaki fans
are coming with a room tone of Disney movies and
Disney movies messaging around with fair really fair like is
based on the wildest most sex tropes that like you

(22:01):
could possibly embody like I I've I went on the
Bechdel Cast to talk about snow White and how they
a long time ago but like they the ways that
she every time, if you're just viewing it as like
a chart of her being in trouble and in danger.
Anytime she does something of her own volition, it is

(22:22):
exactly sending her to her death. And then every time
that she is unconscious, that's when she is saved. It's
like the message is agency. The messages like don't have
agency and just be quiet and don't do shit, to
the point that if you can be uncont Like there's
a part where the seven Doors are about to kill

(22:45):
her with a pickaxe, and then she like rolls over
in her sleep and they're like, whoa, she's pretty as hell.
Then like there there's a part like she get she
gets saved from the coma because like she's just laying
there in a glass coffin like a piece of artwork,
and the Prince charming like here's here's how pretty she
is and rolls up. But then like the stuff that

(23:06):
she does of her own voligious like sprint into the
woods face first and just get like knocked out, then
like break and enter into people a person's house, eat
the most clearly poisoned apple of all time. Yeah, so
I just feel like I feel like and then from there,
it's just always that's the ship is just like you know,

(23:28):
very that's the under undergrading message of a lot of
Disney princess movies. And then to come upon me as
aki people like yo, where this is fucking is this
written by like a feminist? But yeah, thank you, thank
you a feminist but but yeah, so I think it's

(23:53):
like feminists by comparison. But I totally take your point that, like,
once it gets that sheen, people probably are giving it
too easy a pass and just like taking it in
as like this, this must be fucking great because it's
not diny.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
That's really fair.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's why I say overrat it not but like by
no means of course. It's just that aspect of him
felt so overrated to me in a way where I
was like, and you're right, like comparatively sure, like societally sure,
and especially you're saying like you're growing up and it's
around everywhere, then absolutely it's rated in I guess what

(24:31):
would that be when you're rating to scale?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I guess sure, sure, sure appropriately rated, but yeah, appropriately rated.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I think it's like anything, there's another layer of analysis
people can engage in with it that probably people choose
not to to sort of preserve the idea of like, no,
I need it to be my you know, my comfort
film or creator.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
That's my favorite line roum the Office is when Mandy
Kaling's character Kelly Kapur when they're talking about you know
nowady the episode is under review, but it's when is
Hillary Swang caught? And then Kelly's character just says no,
because if.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Hillary Swank's not hot, then I'm not hot.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's right. Who is the fairest of them?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
All? Right?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Looks ocracy power is transferred based on Ryan.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Let's say your quick break, We'll be right back, and
we're back.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
We're back, and I mean it's time to get to it.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's time to get to it.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's time. It's time to get to the man. Ja
gels himself.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, dude in the hot seat.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You never you never want to see that.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah. It turns out that the terror campaign that pretty
much has all of America freaked out is not going well.
Every day there are headlines about the fracturing of the
part over this we talked about. It's like, I don't know,
some people who aren't running for reelection suddenly found a
backbone and they're like, I mean, I'm not running for reelection,
but I think it's all bad gotta go. Everything that
happened before this I totally agree with. But yeah, I

(26:12):
think a lot of it is more so that there's
more a lot of finger pointing, and a lot of
the fingers are aimed at teenage mutant Ninja Gerbels, himself,
Steven Miller for starters. It turns out we talked about
there was this two hour like immigration showdown meeting at
the White House on Monday, the one that was about
potentially like recalibrating their approach, not necessarily saying we're going

(26:33):
to stop, but it's just like, how do we make
this more presentable? Who was missing one vital person Stephen Miller,
the man who is the architect for this entire campaign,
and the man who said that ICE had to arrest
three thousand people a day, which is the reason why
they have so many dufis ass goons out there like
not knowing what the fuck to do because they have
to reach these quotas. So he had no seat at

(26:54):
the table, and I think that's a good indication at
a minimum that his input is no longer wanted as
they try to navigate the like the for them, the
optics mess that is what's happening.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Maybe a little bit like I actually can't make that time.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Well I kind of interpreted is that more so honestly,
like like let's rest him, like let's keep him out
of the light for a minute, like put him on
the bench in the Yeah, yeah, you know, the same
way they're moving, Greg Bovino. It's like it it feels
like a panic, I.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Think with this. I think the meeting it seems like
was really to talk about that, and it was just
sort of like because for sure from a like a
like a public facing thing, there'll definitely be like, we're
not going to have you screaming that people are assassins
anymore because that didn't go well. But I think a
lot of you were saying, like tactically because him and
Nome are have been at such loggerheads, it's now coming

(27:44):
to like really ahead now because there's recently she told Axio,
so a lot of like the fallout has been. First
of all, Miller has been blaming Gnome for the shit
show in Minnesota, but a lot of the bickering stems
over Miller's stupid lie about how Preddie was a would
be assassin attempting to massacre agents, and that language was

(28:05):
echoed by Gnome because it was distributed throughout the administration
like all right, these are our talking points and others,
and that just made them, like the regime look worse.
So in that meeting, apparently she made it pretty clear
to the president and the press that, like every good Nazi,
she's just following orders. This is what she said to Axios.
Quote everything I've done, I've done at the direction of

(28:26):
the President and Steven, which you're like, oh, we're at
the it's we're fully fully just finger pointing. Now It's
like I know I run DHS because I mean it's
true Stephen Miller has he has, he's he is at
this point, Trump's most powerful aid, so you know, like
so he is dictating to a lot of people really
what their marching orders should be. So I think she's like,

(28:48):
I don't know, this was Steven's idea, and I'm totally unqualified.
I'm mostly into killing dogs, So I'm out of my
wheelhouse here and this is all on him. And I
think what's also kable is like even Miller's tried to
like walk back the language here, because he went from
would be assassin to now actually admitting he's like, the
agents may not have followed protocol on this one.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, no shit. The fact that they're all just to
admitting the L on this one like as much as
they can is pretty surprising and just a testament to
how completely fucking violent evil what happened was.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
It completely is.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
But what I find confusing is that then the continual
pivot still to another story instead of just taking the L.
It's like, well, you shouldn't have had a gun, you
shouldn't have gone like you're saying that to your your people.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah right, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Cause it's like half of it is sort of like, well,
we need to officially stabilize the situation with our like
sort of mealy mouthed like unity message or whatever. But
they're like instincts are to double down and always be defensive.
So you get those moments where people are like, what
do you think about this? Even though you said this
guy wasn't bad, Trump's like nobody should have a gun,

(30:00):
nobody's allowed to bring guns, and you're like, okay, well
what because again it's so reflexive for him, it's not
there's no thought put into anything he's saying.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's just was Steven Miller's theory of the case on
his whole life, like heading into this administration because he's been.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Just hated every entire life, his entire life since Santa
Monica High School, his high.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
School to Charles Schoold about that, No, I don't think so,
Charles school the girl of the Comedian. I remember ages
Ago went to high school with him. Yeah, and I
was like talk about like from firsthand experience, like this.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Wild story, like he would run for an office and
at his high school and say just ship that would
get him booed out of the cafeteria, like everything except
for like when he found a small group of people,
did he just think the rest of the world turned
into that small group of people, like and that this
was where like he just doesn't give a fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I think he's so blinded by his hatred that he
he only knows one's And like we've always talked about
it is like this guy's speed running the Third Reich,
like in a way that even at like for humans
like people, like it's happening so fast that still most
Americans like, well, you can't do that sure right where
he thinks he's like, well, we got all these votes

(31:16):
for immigration, and they know how gnarly we talk about
immigrants that they'll certainly not resist too much when they
see these people being brutalized because a lot of the things.
The value that potential, like supposedly he offers Trump is
that he helps Trump understand the base more so he gives.
So he's the one being like, we gotta go harder
on Nazi, Like you know, all that rhetoric comes from

(31:37):
Stephen Miller, and I think that's just such a misread
from him just generally on how.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
The world works.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
And so you get this like fucked up version of
you know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's a mystery.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
But I also think, like I it's like classic, like
if you've done any like learning, especially this day and age,
anybody has on like narcissism. I think anyone who's narcissistic victim.
I always say, like sense is very seductive, like and
make sense of why someone did something. We try and
like uncover the confusion, right, and it's we're mass abused
by narcisism and sociopathy and psychopathy or whatever. But like, yeah,

(32:11):
I think trying to make sense of it is where
a lot of people stay stuck and they're like, but
why is he?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
But does he?

Speaker 4 (32:17):
And it's like it's bad, it's evil, like they're actually
the sense is so.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
They're broken people.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah the period, and we don't actually need to find
a reason at one point or the point they turned
from Anakin to Darth, like we just actually it's just bad.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, yeah, he's just been like it would be like
if in The Phantom Menace Darth Vader was just a
tiny Darth Vader, like you know, it was just force choking,
force choking his mom and shit.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
And occasionally being like I was a boy too.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Right, yea exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But he's like, hey, look out, what about that watto guy.
Huh he's gonna keep your eye on him, huh.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Like that it is, it's so true that like my
brain is poisoned by narrative and I'm just like, you know,
it's supposed to be a thing where like the person
starts out and like you can't tell if they're good
or bad, and then they like slowly get seduced by
the dark side of this person who's just been both
bad and wildly unpopular. Everywhere he's gone, just like being

(33:13):
booed relentlessly since he was in kindergarten like that, he
has like suddenly been like well this, I think this
one will be popular. I think I got this one.
But that's yeah, he's just a broken person. He's broke.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
He's a broken person who's unfortunately has a very powerful
seat in government. And I think that's the one thing.
Is he just he just wants to cause as much
pain as possible. I don't think there's really outside of that.
That's what he's drawn to.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And I mean to look at his background too. Everyone's
like this guy's Jewish and he hangs around a bunch
of anti Semites and like likes to use like rhetorically
speak like a Nazi. That he's really focused on one thing.
It's just like like even my my community whatever, be damned.
Like I'm so drawn by this thing of causing others pain.

(34:04):
That's the one consistent to me, which again is like yeah,
you're fucking broken, right, Oh this is the other thing.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, I like this. So the co founder of Latina's
for Trump Yeah yeah, has also decided to say fuck
Stephen Miller.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, she's she's come out and said that the GOP
is gonna She's like, mister President, you will lose the
mid terms because of Stephen Miller, because of like you
listening to this guy. It's it's making everything worse, which
I think is convenient as if it's it all begins
and ends with Stephen Miller.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
But sure that all Sure, it seems like a lot
of a lot of conservatives are like turning on Stephen Miller.
But or Yeah, the detail here that I love so much,
this is this is miles. This is what we have
suspected from the very first time we saw Katie Miller
on that that Jesse Waters interview. Yeah, where he was
like your husband the sex matador. And then they laughed

(35:02):
for forty five seconds like they like it was an
they were between them and like they were fucking Like
you just get the sense that she has no respect,
like oh yeah, it felt it was like, yeah, the
sexual matador. And then they both started laughing so hard.
I was like, she does not fuck with her husband

(35:23):
like she does because she is a psychopath like narcissist
who's just trying to get power. But when she at
some point thinks he's a ridiculous human, which he is.
This is so yeah, yeah, So the.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Thing with Ileana garcias she used to work at DHS
and she was Kirsten nielsen spokesperson in the first administration
and and Katie Miller also worked at DHS too, so
there there's like talk about how they had a fucking
beef at DHS during the first administration when they both
worked there. So when when Ileana Garcia posted this like

(35:55):
You're gonna lose because Stephen Miller, Katie Miller on Twitter
said Ileana was fired DHS and Trump's first term because
she failed to show up to work. This is what
Ileana Gercia clapped back with at Katie Miller, invite me
to your podcast so we could have a candid discussion
about what truly transpired and how you labeled your then
boyfriend a racist when you were upset that he treated
you poorly and me as a mere token hispanic for

(36:16):
the administration. Let's discuss who was responsible for the leaks
in the White House and how you helped carve the
floor out from under then Secretary Kirsten Nielsen, which was
a huge having Kirsten Nielsen's power be diminished with a
big win for Stephen Miller because Stephen Miller was like,
Nielsen isn't being inhumane enough? That's always his line. He's like,

(36:36):
none of these people know how to be in humane,
and her getting out added a little gave him a
little more cachet to give his input on the immigration policy.
So like it's all very connected. But she's like, yeah,
you even know your man's a racist, right, Isn't that
the whole fucking thing?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
But do you think this has impact?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I think this is just this is just mess around it,
like like it's very I think this is just all
to say that. I think that even the other like
people who are in orbit of the administration, sense that
this could be an opportunity to bring down Stephen.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Miller's power for their own benefit.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I don't think functionally it does nothing because at the
end of the day, Trump isn't even with all this,
I don't see any reality version of reality where Steven
Miller is ousted.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
That's just no, that's not.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It just feels like they are now after being a
united front of like this is what we're doing, get
fucked if you want to push back against us, they're
now like turning on each other. I do think that
one of the hopes that we have is how wildly
incompetent the administration is. There's at least many of the

(37:49):
people inside the administration are, and that that incompetence will
outpace what they're hoping to accomplish. Is like, I guess
what one one?

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Well, I think pot, yeah, Because I think we shouldn't
make no mistake about it. The situation on the ground
hasn't changed at all, you know, in Minnesota or anywhere else.
So for all the headlines of Bovino getting punted back
to California and Homan coming in and Noman, but the
Nomen this and all that, the the the the the
campaign to kidnap people is still continuing. But I think

(38:23):
the one thing I think is more just sort of
seeing that there's there's a version of the administration where
they just kept going harder and harder, Like last summer
into Chicago and these other places, people like what the
fuck is going on? And they just were blank faced
about it and kept moving forward. That because of what
happened in Minnesota, that this is the first time you're
seeing the administration trying to even manage it versus them not,

(38:44):
and I think that that's just sort of a glimmer
that of some optimism that the resistance actually can lead
to something, them even having to.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Be like, ah, shit, okay, this looks bad even though
we don't.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
It's not going to change.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Us, but it's something because but it makes me uncomforta
because mys in Minneapolis and she's like very involved, and
I have a few good friends there and they say
the thing that a lot of times they're missing is
good journalism.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
They're like good reporting.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah, because prior to this, I think even currently is
it core Civic or Civic Corp. The private prison, there's
still the Prairie Correctional Facility is still having workers. They're
spending millions right now to fix it up because it
was close since twenty ten, I want to say, and
so they didn't even get a bid from Ice, but
are currently working to fix it up, which is like

(39:30):
I think it's you know, two thousand or something that
they can hold privately, and they're not stopping that building,
that infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, they don't seem to be stopping much on the ground,
as Miles pointing out, like it's there there, continuing business
as usual. It does seem like there's some confusion at
the top of like how we message this. Yeah exactly,
it's just like the first time we've seen them fucking
blink at all, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, true, but yeah, like to that, but like exactly
to your point, like it is, it's the song isn't changing,
you know what I mean, Like they're just like, fuck, man,
maybe we just need to do it in a different
style that doesn't outwardly cause this much resistance, because I
think that's what they're also fearful of, is like it's
really strengthening the resolve of people to really resist everything

(40:21):
that's happening. And they're like, well, shit, if there's a
version that this can happen quietly when maybe deal with
a less engaged population, that might allow it to happen
if we do the home end method of like try
and be real like low friction about it, but again
still have the same quotas and still be going after people.
But yeah, we'll see what where they end up, because

(40:43):
I mean, like, yeah, like you said, the rhetoric goes
from one thing to another just based on Trump and now,
like I think the other thing too is even with
these people moving around, there's a lot of articles being
like even the gun rights groups.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Are against them.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's like, well, sure they might not like that, but
they might just say that, but they're not functionally pushing.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yes, not financially for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
And I think that there is probably a level to
like even in US talking about it, where I am
I am desperate to find some green shoots of hope
that are emerging because it is true like they are,
they are fully engaged in an illegal campaign against the
entire population of the United States. And I think there

(41:25):
is something to like, not getting too on like the
cope part of it, where we're like, well they did this,
and they changed that, and they did this, but still
staying focused that that there that their goal has not changed.
But what what we have seen is that the resistance
from people and the coordination and the mutual aid groups
and observers, all of that certainly has an effect. And

(41:49):
I think there's something to be you know, we have
to take you know, take as we can go.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Well, exactly what you're talking about, I think is that
exactly why all these things happen in Minneapolis, because Minneapolis
is really good at sustained community work. Sustained like your
ability to constantly contribute versus in moments of big crisis.
And so I think to your point, like some people
are going from one to the other of like bleak

(42:14):
to needing hope, But it's exactly finding shoots like mini
growth on the way so you can sustain it continuously.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, they chose the wrong test kitchen the zie for
this ice takeover. It's like every city. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Well and then they're also they're like these people like
like like bane, It's like, dude, we were born in
the fucking ice.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, you fucking you're playing in it. And look at
your acid busting and like you think we're not We're
not gonna come out in the streets like we live
here on purpose.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's remarkable.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I feel like California people don't really understand going out
in negative twenty, Like your your blood feels like it's
gonna free Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Any orifice with modica moisture on it, you will begin
to feel will start freezing over and harden it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I went outside and the coat at seven am on
Sunday morning, and so stood outside for an hour and
I was cold the whole fucking day in it was
like it was in the my bone got in your bone.
It was in my bones. I was like, this is
this is unnatural. I don't know if I'll reco I'm
still not recover my court have it. I'm still drinking

(43:22):
hot water every morning. Oh no, yeah, but that Yeah,
my constitution is not built for it, just like the
US constitutions not built for.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Hey, that ruled. I have to be honest. I'm sound
facetius right now, but I feel like that rules.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Thanks so much. I got one back after the EDO thing. Man,
I was sitting on that ETO thing. I was like,
you were sweat when white? Do you see? Mose reactions
like I'm sorry, can we take it back? What the fuck?
You were talking?

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Like this.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Run just your extra I've used that thing on multiple episodes.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Anyone said anything, I like.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Miles let it pass, and I was like, I'm going
to see I need to. I need to at least.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I definitely I acknowledged Judge Lancedo the first time as
somebody who owned the the like the satirical OJ's Legal
sketch pad book from the trial. Yes, yeah, I had
a fucking book that was like a yellow legal pad
because there was like, what's O J Wright on there,
and it was just a bunch of wild dumb jokes, like.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Right now you're saying, is you're unable to hold Jack
accountable because you were just like him?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. That's what this show is
each other.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
It's called encouraging each other to death.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Let's take a quick break and we'll talk about a
quick story about things to not be optimistic about with
regards it's to uh, the fascist takeover and that is
the participation of oligarchs. And then we might we might
have time to get to CBS News. We'll be right back,

(45:20):
and we're back. We're and antis content is reportedly being
censored by TikTok that that's been a lot of different places.
The mainstream media, like CNN has been very careful about
how they talk about this, drawing a circumstantial connection between
their efforts to make videos about ice and the difficulties
they had posting them over the weekend. So they were like,

(45:43):
this is circumstantial. We don't have any proof it's and
it's really impossible to test it.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
It's like it's like they wrote that paragraph with their
hands up like someone has a gun on the like,
and you know, we're just drawing circumstan here, just go ahead.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Like MPR was a little bit more like TikTok says,
they're looking into why many users have been unable to
send the word epstein and direct messages. So they're at
least saying it's happening.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
What is the is it litigiously? What are these citing?
Is their inability Are they like to actually say what
is happening regardless of its intent or whatever?

Speaker 2 (46:21):
You know what I mean, or like the intention, But I.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Guess they don't even want to allege that they're engaging
in censorship like.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
That, right you're talking about why is TikTok saying.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
That, No, why or like why CNN and hy CNN.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Being so like middle of the road, Because that's that's
what I told them. That's what they're all the dark
leaders and told them is the is the thing that
they're missing is that they need to be more middle
of the road. They need to do you know, you
saw how Kamala Harris ran to the right and how

(46:54):
well that went well. They were like that that's what
we need to do. We need to instead of giving
people what they want, we give people what they want
from other people. And then we're for no one.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Mm hmm, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
The idea that this there's no way to know, like
they literally in this CNN article sucks because the the
fucking I cannot think of the word the algorithm is
behind cluk because the algorithm is a black box, so

(47:34):
we'll never know. And it's like, maybe just tried dming
the word Epstein to somebody, like try that.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
It's also like we literally have been given our algorithms
on Instagram there it isn't a black box like you
can look at an individual.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
So yeah, I just like how when they're talked, when
they're asked about it, like a spokesperson for TikTok just goes, well,
we don't have rules against sharing the name Epstein in
direct messages, so we're investigating why something that's weird we
have rules about that. That's crazy. So just you know,
officially we don't have rules about that, but behind the scenes,
there might be some filters being set up.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, this all feels very reminiscent of the time TikTok
was seemingly blocking users from writing free Palestine. When the
app returned after being taken offline in the US. Right, Remember,
like the app went away came back and suddenly people
couldn't write free Palestine. So this is the wild ass
journalism that CNN hasn't thought of. The people at four
or four Media, a great site, were like. I tried

(48:32):
this myself on Tuesday morning, using two different throwaway TikTok accounts.
Using one account, I could comment free Palestine without a problem,
and that comment is still up as Wednesday morning. Using another,
my free Palestine comments were immediately removed repeatedly, and I
received a notification that I had violated the TikTok community guidelines.
I could comment with a nonsense phrase free shavocado, free

(48:55):
shavaka do hell yeah yeah using that same account, however,
and TikTok didn't remove it. So I feel like that's
pretty straightforward. I think we did the experiment that CNN
seemed to think was impossible, and back then you'll.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Never then they have to write that Jack's yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Back then you'll never guess what TikTok's excuse was for
why the thing was magically eating posts that said free
Palestine and kicking those people off. Temporary instability exactly the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
It's not true, temporary.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
The exact same excuse.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Do you guys watch vander Punt Rules.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Only the first couple.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I'm aware of it.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Like seeing in all these people reporting reminds me of
like Jax Taylor admitting to cheating. He's like, there's actually
no way to know if I did, if it was existing. However,
those women, I don't. It's like none of it. And
you're like, we could just ask, you could tell us, you.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Could say in your brain having experience is.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
No, I couldn't speak from nobody's that happened.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
For you to know if I'm telling the truth or not.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So stability was temporarily instable, so.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Therefore a conclusion could be drawn, whereas the Asian countries
such as and therefore never give a yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Maybe someone just accidentally bumped the switches that turn on
and off ice and Epstein likes power outage and temporary
instability causes them to ban account.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I mean people. It's funny because I was looking at
the TikTok subreddit to see because a lot of like
the people on there, I don't know how much they represent,
sort of like all users, but they're all like what
we're getting the fuck off this? I'm on red Scent,
I'm on fucking up scroll they're all like leaving. I
don't know if it still seems like that's that's still
a minority of people, but at the very least this

(50:54):
should show you, like, you know, guys, this is how
like olive archy works. You know, like they they're trying
to control the entire conversation around things like the Epstein files,
which implicate a lot of oligarchs and just terribly powerful people,
not to mention the genocide that's happening, Not to mention
talking about the current legal crisis, constitutional crisis that's happening

(51:18):
in this country. They're just trying to mute any kind
of thing where people are going to exchange ideas and
begin to be like that's right, holy shit, oh my god.
Let me put the pieces together, or let me go
further in my education to understand what the forces are
that are affecting my day to day even my little
app where I was just watching hamsters make little pancakes.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But you know, that's this is the state. You're being
controlled by a group that involves the Ellisons. Yeah, who
you know are Trumps close close advisors and who he
owns CBS.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Now you know what I mean, has.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Made it possible for them to become incredibly and illegally
powerful when it comes to the media landscape. So yes,
spiking downloads for TikTok alternatives an one hundred and fifty
percent increase in TikTok uninstalls, and people are also pointing
out the TikTok terms now include you know, the right
to I think they want to have the right to

(52:14):
know what your immigration status is, and sexual orientation, which
is not uncommon for social media networks apparently, but still,
I think it's a change from before, which that's probably
not good. And people are also pointing out like that
there's this is going around. So this week it was

(52:35):
reported that Meta has been blocking users from sharing links
to the ICE list, which is a website that compiled
the names of what it claims our Department of Homeland
Security employees. And Amazon is very involved in powering a
lot of the ICE operation computing services.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well that yeah, I read that thing
about the cloud.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah yeah. It seems that Apple also removed the ICE
tracking app de Ice or last Fall, which Tim A.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Cook. Tim Cook is out there just deep throat in
the boot at every opportunity, he's.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Like, oh my God, I love Malania the movie. He
went to the Malania. He went to the private screening,
private screening. But he might just be a fan of cinema.
You never know.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
He's saying, I'm making money. Yeah, that's I wish we
got to that story because that the Milania thing is
funny because it actually does connect to the Stephen Miller thing.
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I came into today, Miles, I said, today, I'm making
the editorial decision We're not going to cover the Milania
documentary because we've covered it for like five days running.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
But it's not even a movie good. It's sums up
how backwards everything is. You have an olivegark paying forty
dollars for the licensing rights to a documentary directed by
a sex crim okay, and then throwing another third five
million dollars in marketing but seven so this fucker costs
seventy five million dollars to try and prop up the

(54:06):
image of the first lady, who they're trying to make
like the soft face of fascism.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
It's it has everything.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
And by the way, it's going to be a vocal Stanley.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Sex oh sexual yeah, shoutow Jamie loftus for that.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
One early days, that segment we had at the time
in Ghazi Ghazi.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah movement, shout out to Zightgang. That was a Zight
Gang creation.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
But yeah, she is still promoting the documentary by opening
the New York Stock Exchange, all those all those movie
fans who work on the trading floor in Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
You know what it is, it's the only places that'll have.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Her, Yes, exactly, Jordan Belfort invited. I'm sure the original
wolf Of is so fucking stupid like that.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
It is like it's also like it's either gonna save
us or like or take him down, because it's that
classic sort of story of like and his temperamental wife
actually like killed him in his sleep, and it's like
why it's it's so ridiculous, it's so fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
But I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen in the documentary.
I would watch if that was what happened to them. Yeah, yeah,
I don't think she's a.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Thing that's in there.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
But if it was like an unauthorized documentary that was
just you know, like we got a Queen of Versailles
style like look inside the house and like you just
saw how dysfunctional, the relationship was, and like that, like
the only time they interact is like on a fucking
outlook calendar of like appearances that are invitation Yeah yeah,

(55:39):
where she has to like consult her lawyers, consult her
contract in order to decide if she has to go
to any of these meetings.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
But what about that log line or the tagline for
it on the post?

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Yeah yeah, So jay I was pointing out that the
poster that everybody seen because they only made one, has
the tagline a new film.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
No, this is real. Hey, hey, that's so.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Real, A new film.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
First of all, swish it's giving be better or.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Be best best, be best a new film Millennia.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Speaking of the best, I will say she's missing an
opportunity because she loves to play darize women who are
like in similar positions, you know, the former First Lady
Michelle Obama. But with the be best speech, I think
she really fucked up by her popcorn bucket, which we
talked about, which is just the a new film movie
poster tin popcorn bucket. There is a Megan two point oh,

(56:44):
M Threegan two point oh bucket that is like M
Threegan's head and I'm just saying like, yeah, she already
looks like that ship like yeah, just change the what's
on her neck to being like what I think, fucking unhinged.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Fel I think she's smart enough to be like, that's
going to open the door to countless memes and that did.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Not have it.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
And it's true, man, if you had a thing to
crack open the head and do, yeah, that's not gonna happen.
But the thing, the reason why I really wanted to
bring this up is because Michael Wolfe, the guy who
wrote Fire and Fury, he's saying that the one of
the reasons why potentially Trump could be rethinking the deportation
campaign is because Milania was quote pissed off that the

(57:31):
Ice murders has taken the attention away from her movie Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
With Dudley like.

Speaker 7 (57:42):
Last yeah, so wild because I'm because also like, it's
just so funny to see how the truth social account
for Trump is just spamming promo for the movie too.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
When it's like I don't know, she's like, you must
post about it more, and he's like, I don't know,
no one gives yeah, like just sort of you know,
trying to hype it up to the base. But again,
ticket sales in major blue cities look abysmal. As we
looked on the AMC apps and regal.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
They're going to they're going to buy out theaters like
they have unlimited money at this point because of the oligarchy.
They're gonna buy out the tickets. I just our citizen
journalists need to be ready to show show that the
theaters are actually empty.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Right to go there and be like, I don't know,
this is this was a sold out show. I'm looking
on my here it is. There are no tickets And
it's just if.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Somebody wants to write like like a new Ish film,
I will play Millenia and we can redo it all
but truthfully.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Shot for real. It's gotta be such an interest, like
it would be like have you ever seen Dog Tooth
the first like most yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I feel
like that must be what her life is like, you know,
inside the White House anyways. Now a true pleasure having you, Yeah,
daily Zeitgeist, Where can people find you? Follow you? All

(59:05):
that good stuff?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
People can find uh and they can listen to my
podcast We're You with Mofrey Passik. We're working on season
four now. It's about people's creative process that is less tangible,
less morning pages, more that flower you saw when you
were six that has inspired you to do your comedy
now whatever it is with funny people. And I love it.

(59:28):
And you could also follow me on Instagram at MOPA
M E.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
A U x P A S and.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Great handle.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Thank you, Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Well done. Is there a work of media that you've
been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Traders? I love it. You watch Traders?

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I really got to watch Traders, don't.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
It's I actually, I really mean this. I think it's
the best reality television there's been. I mean I thought
this last season, but that there's been in decades.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Like it's it's so it's so meta.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
It's at people performing identity versus self versus another identity
of Trader faithful. It is people. It's Infinity War crossover.
You're seeing people from certain franchises interact with other franchises
and you're going, you two together. It's it's so amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, that's that. That is what I've heard. That is
the best sales pitch I've gotten on it so far.
I just need three more incredible sales pitch, just the
I never have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
He s necess to each critical mass I think of people.
I'm the same way. I just need because I love
reality television and everyone's like, how the fuck are you
not watching Traders?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Your big show? What's the one? People are like, Oh,
Miles loves that, And.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
And also mostly like the first seven years of Real Housewives.
I've watched most of Below Deck I've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I watched a lot of Traders.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Are we talking?

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I know exactly, this is the exact conversation I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Have watch Housewives. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's like one of these things
when something feels so potent, I start getting afraid of
it and I'm like, oh my god, dude. Then and
then you watch it and you're like, this ship is
actually dope. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, like we said, being in love?

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Yeah, in love?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Wow, that was such an avoided answer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, love you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
And then there's pressure to be good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
What if I'm my dad though? What if I?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yeah, Miles, if people find you as their work of
media that you've been enjoying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray again, find
me talking about ninety on four to twenty Day Fiance,
and find me talking about one of my favorite sports,
soccer on ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. Also, again,
we're approaching two thousand episodes of our main show, so
please check out the check that out, but please check

(01:01:52):
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first two thousand episodes? Help us remember, because only remember.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Memory from the next two thousand exactly predicties. I just
realized that we told we gave our listeners on this
Morning's trending some homework to uh to talk about Sorry,
yesterday Afternoon's trending to talk to watch the Chucky Cheese Wrap,
and then we I didn't end up writing that story,

(01:02:21):
so that that that one's going to be coming tomorrow.
Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
You're lucky guys. The quiz had to postpone it. I
had to postpone the feeling. Yeah, post the quiz. No,
you're good, You're good, You're good. Yes, that's me. Oh
a work of media. I like a lot of people
were pointing to this Barack Obama tweet because we're like,
it's such a dark time. We like what Barack Obama like?
Does Barack Obama have something to say? And this is

(01:02:44):
what he posted on Wednesday morning. It said, more and
more Americans are voicing their outrage at the tactics being
deployed by federal agents in Minnesota, but it's important to
understand the broader implications of what this administration is doing
and the threat it poses to the basic freedoms of
every American. And it was like a thread next sweet,
here's a podcast that does a good job of laying

(01:03:05):
out what's at stake and why all of us need
and was like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
You're him and Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but at least Bruce Springs put out
a song, you know what I mean. Spruce Springsteen was like, yo,
I fucking went to the studio Saturday mixed this ship.
He has a new song now, Yeah, Bruce Springsteen recorded
a brand new song, uh, like for for like Minneapolis.
And then everyone is doing like it's like the drowning
hand like high five meme where the person's likes going

(01:03:33):
down and a hand comes in and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Just high five, and it's like, here's a podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Yeah, so the podcast it was it was no, it
was some other creator. It was like, think I think
it was a pretty Yeah, it's a diary of a CEO.
I think it's just some self optimism. I think it
was probably an earnest like clip where someone is articulating that. Like,
I don't think it's that. It's more just like, sir,
you you have a or a platform.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Then you recommending me. That's what he would come on
this podcast and just try and do a forty five
minute what's the media you've been enjoying? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yeah, well what about the drone strikes? Mister Prett? Well,
you know what, I like a lot the NBA all
start Game're like, what the fuck? Dude? Answer Kendrick also
a working media. Oh man, just getting into heated rivalry.
Oh you're in fur and deeper. Oh yeah baby, oh yeah,
oh yeah. I just love them. I just love the
way when they they're like having sex. They're doing it

(01:04:29):
like bros. Y're like, oh, fuck Hollander, like using your
last name, like you're really on a sports team, like
it's always your last name, you know, Like they're like, yo,
we'll sup Hollander. It it's like, oh fuck rosen up
And I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Like, yo, are you serious?

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
I see this is a pitch for me because I'm
having the Traders experience with heat rival.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Oh yeah, no, no, I'm like hockey and nice butt butts. Okay,
let's see, let's see. Although her majesty is always like
mis She's like your ask don't look like that, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Like, I know, I know, I know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I know. Nobody's does, nobody's does.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Okay, these busts are getting more and more unrealistic. I'll
tell you that for a world where we're sitting around.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, my podcast, I wanted to go show a podcasters
flat ass on the podcast podcast podcast. But it's funny.
When I was saying that her match is like, you know,
like this isn't written for like guys who plays sports
or anything, right, I'm like, I know, I know, I know.
I was like, I just think, like, why can't you
call him Shane you know or Ilia.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
My brother in law is former NHL And it's so
funny because I asked him. I was like, okay, hockey show,
Like what do you think. I don't think it's I
don't think it's about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Hockey, it's all he said. I love it. I don't
think it's about hockey, not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Really, that's just the texture mapped on. It's about the
push pull, about the push pull push pull relationship workimedia.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I've been enjoying the first time. I'm gonna link off
to the uh Chuck E Cheese song. Somebody said, I
met Chuck E Cheese for the first time in a
very long time, and they've got Chuck rapping like lin
Manuel Miranda and you just have to hear it to
believe it. So I'm going to link after that in
the footnotes. And then I really liked this tweet by

(01:06:10):
Dan Devine. For anybody who's ever lived in New York
and gotten to listen to the local broadcast of the
New York Knicks and heard Clyde Fraser do a game,
This is a is an actual quote for Dan Vine,
tweeted good Omnipotence by Towns says Clyde calmly and matter
of factly, assigning to the Knicks all star center, limitless

(01:06:32):
and absolute power over all creation. But he just loves
using big words and he's so I love that, so
good at it. It's he's really one of the you
can like that they need to have the Clyde feed
on all national game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Did they work? Do the words work? Or is he
just using him?

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
He? I mean, he's like you know, saying he can
you see the future, but you know, in a tongue
in cheek way, but the way he does it is
just it's next level. Yeah, the words usually.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Work, and there's there's a whole lore around him too,
like his book about being cool.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Yeah, there's a book about being cool where like I
saw an interview with him. This is this is when
I lived in New York and they just one of
my first experience with hardcore propaganda is that they have
two channels. One is a Yankees channel and the other
is a Knicks channel MSG, and like you're just watching
things that are just about like every Yankees win, every

(01:07:35):
Knicks win, And they have one that was interviewing him
and he was like talking about in the seventies, like
I was just cool, Like I could go into a room,
catch a fly, shake it in my hand, and release
it and that was just like I was just like
that if you were like damn, I wrote a book
about that. I wrote a book about how to be cool,

(01:07:56):
and I taught people how to do that. I was like, man,
I don't don't think anyone I think you have like
supernaturally fast hands, Like yeah, I've never been able to
like just calmly catch a fly in my hands, shake
it around and release it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
But as the litmus for cool, that's oh, it's so weird.
It's like the bullet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
It's more than that. In the book, it was a diagram.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Yeah, catch the cloy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
He says. He's like, hold on, he said, like to
clawd is bad. You want to side swipe it. That's
the right form. I know. If these muscles are flexed
hard enough, they will automatically release just before tendon separates
from bone, since complete concentration has been on the fly.
His capture is a matter of course.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
That's actually erotic. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yeah, bring flexor and extense. Extensor muscles to spring like
tension Calander fu extend.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
That's cool, OK, Frazier, he is very cool. You can
find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian Blue
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you can go to the description of this episode wherever
you're listening to it, and there at the bottom you
will find the footnote no, which is where we link

(01:09:20):
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy. Miles Lies There a song that you
think that people might enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Yeah. This is a Nigerian duo from like the seventies
that we've gone out on before, the Lee Jadu Sisters.
This is like years ago. There was a track called
Life's Gone Down Low that we went out of. This
is from the same album. This track is called Danger
and they're just they're super dope, really, these sisters who
are making like afro beat kind of disco inspired songs,
like pretty prolific output.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
But this track's really dope too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
It's called Danger by the Lee Jadu Sisters l Ija
beat You oh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Right, We will link off to that one in the footnotes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Give one shout out to a musician. There is a
musician in the city in the Twin Cities in Minneapolis
who was a wonderful artist that was I believe arrested
or like tear gas this weekend called Nerdy and you
are dash d And if we could go get some streams.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Out be heavenly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Hell yeah, Okay, put that on the little leg off
to them as well. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production
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That is going to do it for us this morning.
We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending
and we will talk to you all then Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long, co
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