February 20, 2026 • 53 mins
In episode 2010, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by comedian, Troy Walker, to discuss… Trump Making War Noises At Iran, AI Push Continues As Nobody Is Really Using It, Reese Grandson Sparks Peanut Butter Cup Controversy and more!
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- Grandson of Reese’s founder alleges Hershey has switched to cheaper ingredients – sparking family feud
- ‘Oreos too’: Utah man bites into Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup. Then he notices something different
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up, guys, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome to the.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Show, Thanks for having me, thanks for doing it.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Congrats on the new special app Today album.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's just an album. I wish it was an album. Yeah,
it's just an album. And yeah tomorrow, well we'll dropping
this one tomorrow. So just in a universe where we
are on Friday, just this is Friday time, I'm methoge Troy,
(00:36):
so right. The only thing that's different is that I
believe that it's Friday, and I'm going to be doing
a lot of cool stuff, like talking about thank God
it's Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That's going to be most of the show. It was
just cool stuff about how cool Fridays are you, like
casual Fridays too?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh man, pass Friday. Change change your life once a week.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just go real cash with it. Like where pajama pants,
pajama pants Friday.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's called unemployed.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's right, Yeah, soon enough it will be Yeah, that's uh,
that's got fired on Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I haven't worked in a real office like workplace since
like decades ago. Do people, because I have seen how
people have changed what clothes they wear on airplanes, They've
gotten they've gone full pajamas.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You're doing you're doing. No one wears a suit on
the airplane anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm furious about this, Andrew, But like I do, wonder
have casual Friday has gotten more casual since I was
last working in an office. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I mean, you're looking very sharp for a podcast right now.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I know, business cash. I thank you very much. I'm
going to well, I'm going to dinner a couple of hours.
This isn't for us. That would not be No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four to twenty six,
episode five of dir Daily Zeitgeist. It was a production
of Iyheart Radio is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America share consciousness through the day's news.
We also have a new non news history version of
The Daily Zeikes dropping each Monday morning, where we do
a deep dive into the Zeikeeist through the lens of
(02:35):
a different icon. Last week you to Tony Hawk, and
beginning of this week we had this guy, Andrew Tee
on to look at the very strange history of the
original cocaine cup.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Sure fun, I say smoke cocaine more times than I
normally do.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You do he said a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I love that he's spoked, he told you, and Jack's cocaine.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
In Jack's cocaine a very underrated way cocaine delivery. I'm
not gonna say underrated, but underutilized. It's really fallen out
of fashion, the cocaine injection. Sure Sherlock did it, and
people were like, maybe maybe not that way.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It might make you too observe it, right, that's the
problems too.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Dang two, dang sharp. It's Friday, February twentieth, twenty twenty six.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien. I do
apologize to the discord. I've just had a crazy morning.
Otherwise I would have used one of your akas. I'm
thrilled to be joined in our second seat by one
(03:39):
of our very favorite guests, say hilarious and brilliant producer
and TV writer you know from the Joss Racist podcast
and the New Starter Trek podcast. It's Andrew Tube.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bat Podas. Johnny Davis suggested that I was the pot
phantom of pot Opera. No, the pod opera pantom, Yeah opera.
It looked more like, well, I don't this is my
brain just getting i guess Epstein pilled. But even seeing
(04:11):
po D is just like I'm like, whoa, oh no, okay, yeah,
that's three of the letters right there. You know it's
too much, it's too much. I don't, I don't, I can't.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Why are you Phantom of the Pod Opera? Other than
a sick Apparently?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Apparently I suggested at some point doing an episode entirely
in a KA song parodies the whole episode where.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You would be hiding in the rafters. Yea, yes I did.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I did install a chandelier over Jack, just in case,
don't worry.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Things fancy, and it has a swing built into it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I do wear a tuxedo at all times, at all times.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Whether it be on the plane, whether it be on
a private plane. And we're not going to talk about
what the tail number is on that private WHOA, come on, dog, Andrew.
We're thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian
whose new album, Troy Walker Esquire is out today. It's
Troy Walker.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm very excited to talk to you about all manner
of news and nonsense.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
There you go. We're thrilled to have you a sharp
dressed man looking good explicitly.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Sir, I own.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
With buttons. I really do have like a handful. Like
I have like maybe two or three button shirts. And
I go into the office and like take like in
person meetings rarely enough that I'm like, still, I think
I'm at a good place where like they haven't figured
out my shirt scheme. It's just like, what if I
(05:54):
wear this button up shirt unbuttoned with a different colored
shirt underneath it than the one that I were last time?
Nobody's cat Yes, switch it up.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, my my, My situation is similar but a little
different in that I get I only have a few
button up shirts, but I get new ones when the
old ones stop buttoning.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well no when.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You got this one got tight on me?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, my shirt shirts do shrink, and they do shrink,
and that's that's a fact. Okay, the big shirt doesn't
want to admit, all right, So tight my neck, Troy.
We're thrilled to have you. We're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
(06:45):
gonna tell the listeners a couple of things. We're talking
about Donald Trump's making some more noises. Yeah, so we
do just I mean, as a service, we'll we'll tell
you what exactly is going on. They're all very rational,
very sane, and uh, you know, very very well reasoned.
We'll do a quick check in with AI. Also, I
feel like this is dominating news headlines lately. People are like, okay,
(07:07):
but seriously, this time, AI is about to get ready, fuckers,
come on to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Come on, brother, give me, give me just another, just another,
just another, like a couple of billion dollars in.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like all the water in Nevada. It's all we need,
and it will just magically make your job disappear. Like
the promise is uh, you know, it's almost too good
to be true. I can't wait. But uh, we just
want to look at like what is actually being done
with AI, which is so rarely part of that conversation.
(07:40):
It's really just like we will convert trillions of dollars
of investment into stock prices that go up, and uh,
executive CEO Boners.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, trillions of dollars of investment into millions of dollars of.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Profit for something some people. And then we'll also, yeah,
so we'll look at a new report about how often
the CEOs, the very people who seem to be most
excited about this technology are actually using that ship, and
then we'll also look at a new fully AI run school.
Oh hell yeah, that's almost as good as that that implies.
(08:24):
And and also the grandson of the recy fortune has
been like, look, let's admitted these are these are getting worse? Right?
These suck? They suck? Now?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What an ungrateful motherfucker? How dare you speak to name?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But I do, I do think this is happening, and
I don't think we have a great apparatus for like
spotting it when like a products just get worse. So
I do the boiler frog problem. They're just every month
they make the Reese's cups a little bit smaller, and
nobody notices until it's you know, we're all, you know,
(09:03):
celebrating and you know, using a knife and fork to
divvy up the prices cup to our family, and it's
actually the size of what used to be the little
fun sized cup. You're like a note anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
A cartoon hobo with a bean exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
How I feed my family all that plenty more. But first, Troy,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Well, yesterday I googled Days of thunder cast Hell yeah,
I don't know if you've seen that movie Days of Thunder? Yeah, no,
I mean no, but we how how did you get
into it?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Here's that? So I was on the plane.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I'm in Chicago currently and Days of Thunder was available
in my I don't want to brag to coach the United.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So okay, okay, sir, So you weren't You weren't in
a steerage. You weren't. You weren't in the overhead been
the way I like to travel. I just yeah, you know,
so we're talking about the Tom Cruise, Yeah, the Tom
Cruise film Days of Thunder. For some reason, my mind
went to, isn't there like an Australian magic mic show called.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like Thunder Thunder from down Under Thunder?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That vastly inferior to magic to the magic mic of
Vegas show as far.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I just wanted to make sure they caught strays real quick.
But Days of Thunder, yeah, classic eighties movie that I
saw when I was like nine, and it's been like
preserved in amber as a pretty good movie since I
saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, I mean I haven't. I haven't seen it in
a long time.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But I was talking with a friend about it just
the other day because I also saw it when I
was a kid.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I loved it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
And it is also one of those movies that's like
just very in my movie Wheelhouse by like eighty dude
movie Wheelhouse. Yeah, you know, because it's top Gun with cars.
It's just like, like, I love top Gun, Top Gun, Maverick,
give me a little.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm liked.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Apparently one of the only people that's that thinks F
one deserves to have been nominated for an Oscar.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I was gonna say, it's isn't it the same writers
F one or or same director or somebody it has
some DNA with F one? I believe, Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, I don't know if it's the same director,
but it's it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Maybe they're both scripts written by the same seven year
old who's like Cargo Go Fast and car Car last
I will say Days of Thunder not like for whatever
reason when you just mentioned it, it was like my
my brain wasn't contextualizing it correctly as a title, so
(11:51):
it goes so much harder than it needs to. Like
F one, even top Gun is just like top Gun
is the best gun, the one that's on the plane.
Days of Thunder is like, okay, all right, Shakespeare, pretty
pretty brilliant, pretty beautiful title for this NASCAR movie with
characters named Cole Trickle. They just certain certain names, certain
(12:17):
parts of They're like, Yeah, this is a very straightforward
NASCAR movie about a kind of a dumb sport, and
we're just gonna pack poetry into the title and the
names of the characters.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You just had to do real titles at some point.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, Tom Cruise and a young Nicole kidman, and you're
gonna love us for it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, is that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Where they met?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Where they met? I think it's maybe like her first
big Hollywood movie. I'm not sure that's accurate, but I
think it may be.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, And this is vibes. This podcast is vibes only,
by the way, Jack, this podcast is vibes only.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, no facts, no facts, no, No, but it's I
could be wrong, I was.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Are you saying you could be wrong that Tom Cruise
might not be in that one?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, No, I'm saying I could be wrong as to
whether or not it is the kidna.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, but that's what it feels like, a curly yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, and she's after jacket and she's just staring at
Tom Cruise going like you, you idiot, you gearhead idiot.
And then she's like, but I love you. Yeah, and
I think you know, there's something beautiful about that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
According to Google's AI Overview, Nicole Kibmen's first major Hollywood
movie was the nineteen ninety action film Days of thunder Joy.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Congratulations, man, you have an I felt like that American
idol apprehension for a second before you revealed that you
had like a little bit of a pause.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, I don't know. American idol. Is that kind of
like Masked Singer?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's my family. You gave it that reality show review,
and it's like, am I about to look?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, you're You're there. You're the John Henry of movie facts.
You you's you versus AI. You're gonna win or you're
gonna die. I don't remember what happens at the end
of the John Henry.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
One of the nicest things anyone's ever said.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, John Henry, movie movie facts.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Have you guys watched The Masked Singer, by the way,
I'd never watched it. Yeah, I had never watched it.
And then we for the Tony hawk Icons episode. Sure
that one kind of has like a sad the Tony
hawk Icon story kind of as a sad ending where
it's like, you know, the end of Tar where she's like,
uh direct conducting music for a video game and like
(14:47):
another country and like her career. Like that's kind of
how it felt with Tony Hawk, like being the the
first eliminated from the masked singer. But I had I
like watched the clip of him being revealed, and I
was like, wow, this is like truly dystopia, Like just
the feeling, the editing. It really is like on the
(15:10):
nose what any filmmaker from even like fifteen years ago
would have done. Like it like it feels like the
TV from the universe of RoboCop. Yeah, we're in Paulo Verse. Yes,
we live very Verhovian.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It's it's is.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It is depressing, especially because of the fact that it
feels like you can almost hear someone's agent going okay,
so Dancing with the Stars said, no, that's right, Like
it feels like right below that level of like having
fallen off, you know, just the whole idea where they
take the thing off and it's like, oh my god, Sarah, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They like pretend like they can't get it the head off,
so that like there's some really build up the suspense,
and I learned from that and that's why I built
up the suspense, and that's the way I overview.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I love the acting skills of the judges too, like
when they reveal it and they're like, oh, my ship.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Blown away.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Which person who can't sing is going to be outside?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yes, of course. What is something, Troy that you think
is underrated?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Chain restaurants under Yeah? Yeah, yeah, restaurants very underrated. I
feel like certain ones better than others. But you know,
I think I think you can't really you need to
appreciate the ability to be in almost any city in
the country and go cheesecake factory. Yeah, I'll be at
(16:52):
least satisfied. You know, there's no like mistakes stuffed.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know, there's certain things that hit with like almost
every chain restaurant, Like anything in an egg roll like yeah,
you know, like that's just been like fried crispy and
has various cream cheese ingredients inside is just like, come on,
that's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Every version of mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yep, there's a reason those ships are chained up. There's
they're good.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They used to not be chain restaurants. I can tell
you that much.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I will.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I will say this and my genuinely I'm on somewhere
on social media public record. My friend Catherine, who is
like a food journalist, like an honest to god, full
ass full food journalist, did like an Instagram poll or
something one time. It was like, what's the most underrated
restaurant in Los Angeles? I replied, it is the Arby's
(17:47):
that is on Sunset Boulevard, by the way, rip to
that arby And she did say that one got the
most responses of people being like it actually is it
is this one and this one it's so rated, so low,
and it is fucking awesome, even if anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, it used to, yeah, I used to. I used
to stop at that Arby's.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Used to stop at that Arby's and really crash out, Yeah,
really just like blackout and come and then leave with
why did I order all this?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That Arby's?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Is that you just left a general meeting in Hollywood
and it didn't go right and you're about to get
on the highway. Arby's.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, it's right next to the Netflix quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, and you just said to yourself, like, you
know what fringe dips? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
They had me pitch off next to a iPad I
thing like a smiley face on it, and I lost. Yeah,
the masked writer, what if we took to your premise
and gave it to this ai.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That sounds good.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That does sound good? Actually, Troy, can you give us one,
like one order from a chain restaurant that you feel
like is like underrated or like something that everybody should get?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, so have you guys ever been to Texas Roadhouse?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I think is that the one with peanuts on the floor.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, they have a bucket of peanuts on Starting to
see the through line between this and Days of Thunder.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Is very me.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
The bon in Ribbi at Texas is one of the
truly like wow, cannot lose.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Because that is it is. That's that's an ambitious order
for a chain restaurant to go with.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, it will be perfectly cooked and perfectly seasoned every
single time. And it's like twenty five dollars for a
twenty ounce bon in Ribbi. It's like easily one of
the best steak deals you can get, and they have
it everywhere, and because you're a Texas roadhouse, you get
a bucket of peanuts and those those rolls with cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Butter people loved to Yeah, I love to roll Texas roadhouses.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Man, I'm I'm an evangelist.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
You know, the way you think, the way you've reacted
to Mike me saying the place with peanuts on the
floor is leading me to believe that maybe it only
has peanuts on the floor when I'm there, like, are
you not supposed to just throw them the shell?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
What I remember is like it was like kinda yeah,
I guess people probably do just throw them on the floor.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Just me.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We gotta look, we gotta look under Jack's desk right now,
because it's just show.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It looks like a hamster cage down there, just peanuts.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I don't know that they've actually got like a
like this is fine.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think like the corporate manual is like,
so you know part of your side work is sprinkle
peanuts shells on the floor.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Sure, Yeah, yeah, I think that maybe this was It
was also the last one I went to is when
I lived in Kentucky a long time ago, so maybe
maybe that was specific to Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I feel like you just sort of like sort of
like pig Pen from from Peanuts, you just got like
a cloud of peanut shells.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Or at all times, now that would have made sense
why that strip is called peanuts.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
He got peanuts, he does have peanuts shell.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Kept waiting for our lunchline, Troy, what's something you think
is overrated?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
In and out?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Okay? Oh, probably probably our most our most frequent overrated.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Really yeah, Okay, it's just rated too high. Do you
think do you think it's bad or do you think
it's just rated too high?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
No, I think it's good. I just think that, you know,
like when you talked to people of California about it
and it's like, you know, yeah, cool, It's like it's
like the most fresh, most this is such a good.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like your California.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's still look at my skateboarding.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, your voice, your voice is giving somehow stoned but
still calling the cops on someone at the same time.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I like to I like to thread the needle. But
I think, yeah, I think it's good. I just think
it tastes like Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It tastes like Wendy's really has like gone through its
ups and downs. There was a time when Wendy's had
fresh Yeah what was this the best?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I love Wendy's part time.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, It's like people would overseet, like, you know, I'm
from Colorado, so like people would you know, before they're
now they're area in announcing Colorado, but before that, people
would just come and like tell tale of it, you know,
like they would like comeing to you know, be like, oh,
you know, try California.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You must try.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
It's it's better than anything you've ever tried in your life.
One time I drove out the first time I ever
went to California. I tried it, took a bite, and went, oh,
this is Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
People will travel to Yeah, people will go out of
their way to go to in and out. That is
definitely true. Now, is there a little bit of Colorado
protectiveness here? Because that used to be true of Cores,
which I didn't I didn't realize until the first season
of Racious Gemstones, but that was like there's this Colorado
delicacy called cors Beer and you can like only get
(23:28):
it in Colorado, and people would like drive to Colorado
just to get it. Oh really, Yeah, I don't know
if there's I don't know if there was something special
about original recipe, corps or something.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Like anybody in from a state that's a square, you
have an insane pride for things that are Yeah. Yeah,
Like I didn't even like beer, and I'm still like
cours That's that's a hometown thing. We got cours Field
(23:59):
where the Rockies don't play baseball, and.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's older than your beer.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's got mountains on the can. Yeah, you know, it's good.
Our city and our state is largely pivoted to craft beer.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Beer.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, you guys are really polar on beer. You're the
You're literally the worst and worst and the best beers
are from Colora.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
It's really we've really leaned into the craft brewery situation. Yeah,
you know, as it's become like a real city.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Oh yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We're
gonna come back. We're gonna talk about the news. I
do have to give a quick shout out. Superducer Victor
wanted us to shout up the Triple Dipper from Chili's,
which is I don't know if it's underrated, but it
is the ratings.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
See the problem is Jack, you're you and I are
a bunch of fucking coastal elites. We underrate everything at
the chain restaurants. The problem, it's all way better than
we're holding up to, like Lexington, Kentucky being like, have
you guys tried Ruby Tuesdays?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah? What the fuck out of here? All right, so
it is good. Let's take a quick break, will be
right back and we're back, and uh, let's talk about war.
(25:31):
That's what everybody that's right. Uh, it's it's fun, it's
fun content. Uh, this is just you know, it seems
like Donald Trump is desperate for a distraction from the
epsteam files and the ice schoons and the economy and
the naked corruption and like everything else that you know
(25:53):
is happening with the administration. So they're gonna go full
George W. Bush on on all of our asses.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, there's a lot of saber rattling going on. He's
claims he's negotiating a deal with Iran, but it's not
really clear what the ask is. Like they say this
is about the nuclear program. Iran has stated that they
are fine not having nukes, So it's like, okay, so
we're good, we're good here, they make up something else
(26:23):
that I need to get from this.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The thing that he.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Wants least is iron like cooperating, which is so what
a weird dynamic. They're just like we can just fuck
with him by going like yeah, all right, exactly, sure,
that's fine. It's all good.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Because he's the one that blew up the nuclear deal
that though bother nuclear deal, he got rid of it,
and now they're like, make a nuclear deal, right, we
want a nuclear deal.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's all good, just like yeah. The whole thing is
just kind of like he did something and then yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Know, but it's also like, if you're Iran, it's so
easy to be like yeah, okay, and then just don't
do it because what's he's not even gonna know, Like
it's like negotiating with like a five year old, just
like yeah whatever, just let's line in his face. Who cares,
what's he gonna do about it.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We do, of course, know that the US is not
the only one negotiating here, and that Netna who's been
talking with Trump about these talks, and they probably both
they're coming from different places, they have different endgames. Trump
seems to be fine with being like I got Iran
to stop doing the nuke and then then yah, who
would rather drag the US and the world into World
(27:39):
War three? Yeah? So regional World War three.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I guess they're all pretty regional.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, that's it. I always refer to World War two
as a regional conflict. But personally, that's what I'm like.
I'm cool like that. Yeah, I don't know. At this point,
might be cool to start raising Israel's two hundred plus
new No, maybe that should be something that we introduced
into the conversation since they seem to naw dog be
(28:08):
a little bit of loose cannony.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
They're they're chill, They're the chillst and that's important to
keep in mind.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's right, all right, Moving on to AI, which I
do just feel like I'm seeing a lot of headlines
recently that it's just like, no, guys, but for real,
this time here comes AI to for real change your world.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Do you know how fast this AI is going to
know facts from Days of Thunder? Do you know how
fast that's Troy your fucking toast.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Bro I know, John Henry finished, it does like every
time this happens, I just do need to go and
do like a couple levels deep research to be like wait,
is it actually amazing?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Now?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Does it do anything good that? Like, yeah, they still
know I'm gonna be like, oh yeah, that's like they
still have the one thing where they like figured out
the structure of the proteins protein molecules, and like.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That was if that's fine, if I may Jack, I
saw this in the notes. I will also point out, though,
they love to hold up like the one time it works,
because that's what that's what they do for video creation,
for like fucking chatbot shit. It's like, oh my god,
look at what it can do, and they don't ever
point out the nine billion other nine hundred nine nine
(29:34):
billion other times that it doesn't work. Yeah, so you know,
great assault on even the protein thing. It's just like
it took so many shots in the fucking dark. One
of them had to work, right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And both like.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
That that video they were everybody was sharing of the AI,
Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt like that's another one of
a building, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's like, yeah, that looks good.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
But whenever it goes in a close up, you're like
I kind of feel like I saw this from se
this is just set. Yeah, you know, it's like that
kind of thing. I kind of feel like AI is
only really gonna it'll it'll like work to like supplement things. Yeah,
like when you just googled, yeah, got your little uh
the AI summary that you that you just got a
(30:17):
second ago, it'll be that, and like.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It'll work for porn. Yeah, yeah, I think those will be.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like the two things the Tom Cruise and Brad pittsing
too was just a face replaced they they they the
Twitter people were like, oh, all you know, it was
like a blank thing. We just said, show me Tom
Cruise and Brad pit fighting. It turns out it was
like a shot video with a face replacement.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
They just put their faces on someone else, I think.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
But as far as I saw on like Blue Sky,
uh so, who knows.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, but we don't. We don't source things. We don't
fact check things because we hold ourselves to the same
standard as the thing we're discussing, which in this case
does not fact check anything and it is permitted to
hallucinate act. But it just yeah, as best as I
can tell, we're not seeing any anything that's cool or
(31:09):
like the change it like even if let's say the
Brad Pitt Tom Cruise thing is real, they just type
make Brad Pit fight Tom Cruise into a AI engine
and it makes that video, Like what does that do?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Like? Who's that?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
How does that change the world? Like I still haven't
seen that thing other than using it as a tool
for like scientific research and discovery. Great, yes, please keep
doing that, but they need all this investment, and so
it's just these like broad pie in the sky things.
The thing that made me think about it was Adam Silver,
(31:48):
the commissioner of the NBA, who are have many problems
going on with their league and you know, owners and
players directly funding or participating in war crimes, et cetera,
et cetera. They are He like gave this state of
(32:08):
the League thing at All Star weekend and he said,
as I look at the world and the predictions, and
we're seeing much of it already on how AI is
changing everything about our personal lives, our business lives. For me,
there's no doubt AI will have the same impact on sports.
Oh dope. What one area in particular that I think
(32:31):
is worth addressing is impact on the fan experience. One
of the things we're beginning to see already is how
we're going to more than personalized, almost hyper personalize our telecasts.
That's gonna suck so bad. Yeah, that's gonna be so bad.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think these people genuinely don't understand what a culture
is like, right, Like because these people the other thing
they bring up all the time is like, oh, you
could get it to generate an episode of Game of
Throats us for you, starring you and your boys or whatever,
And it's like, that's not television. That's like a card
(33:07):
for yourself. No one else wants to see that, and
then you're just in a vacuum by yourself. It's so
insane that they think people want that.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
A lot of this stuff is like, oh, here's your
AI companion. Yeah, that's just sad.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Has anybody had a good experience with that? Like I
know people who have used it to be like, hey,
could you organize my computer? Like help me organize these files?
Has anyone had like a good personalized experience? Like I
feel like the way this is going to go is
you're gonna be watching an NBA game that like just
like compliments you, yeah, and is like look at that
(33:46):
play Jack that was amazing. Yeah, it's amazing that you're
watching this NBA game. It's amazing that you asked about
how many rebounds. I'm really smart.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, Like I think it's just a what's the definition
of good? I think there are a lot of people
that enjoy that interaction, but I think the data seems
to be showing that's not good for them or for anyone.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think it'll be feeling good for video games, porn,
and it's like a fun thing to play with, but
that's not how it's being pitched to anyone.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I feel like it's it's it'll work well as a
tool to help you get like cut down on how
much work you have to put into stuff, and then
it'll work for things where like the actual quality is
not that important, you know, Like that's where like where
it'll be. That's why I think you're I think you're
right where it's like, okay, it'll work kind of for
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video games and help them code. And then there's like
the weird like AI girlfriend porn stuff where it's like,
you know, these are guys who are buying flash lights.
They don't care if she's got six fingers.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Got to consider that six six fing.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So it's kind of like this, like I feel like
it's gotta be you know, it'll be helpful in as
a tool in stuff that requires quality control and people
can plug whatever into it and have it kick it
out for stuff that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, like the personality pitch. Every time the AI
bros talk, it feels to me like their pitch basically
boils down to, hey, we've all wanted to have a slave,
haven't we? And it's like, no, doc, what are you
talking about? That's genuinely how they talk, like whoa, what
do you wanted this? And it's like, oh really, man,
(35:38):
kind of like.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, it always, it always. Kind of it reminds me
of like the Bitcoin stuff, where it's kind of like
underlying it is kind of like this, like I can't
function in normal society to it of like, no, man,
I don't want regular actual money. I need money where
no one knows where it came from or where it's going.
(36:03):
I need like you know, my bank accounts have been closed?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah what if? What if this dollar bill could be
worth between half and twice as much as it is
at any given second?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Don't you see the advantage?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Man? Don't you see the advantage the government can't seize
my assets. It's like yeah, I do, but like I
got to admit, I've never really been that concerned about that.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's weird that you're so worried about that.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's kind of like that kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, just in terms of like what they're actually using
it for, because this does seem to be a thing
that Wall Street is starting to pay more and more
attention to. Is like okay, so, like what when will
there be results because they're just shoveling money into any
research and there's been a couple of studies recently. Some
(36:56):
people have even suggested, like this is why they're going
so hard on the to like get ready to have
your whole world fucking rocked, guys. Is because there's like
these surveys, like they just surveyed thousands of CEOs and
two thirds of executives use AI, but they use it
for an average of ninety minutes a week yea, And
(37:18):
like they they also are like trying. You know, there
was this initial pitch in twenty twenty three from an
AI researcher being like, this is going to increase workers
performance by nearly forty percent once it's adopted, and like,
of the people who have adopted it, they like haven't
increased productivity at all, like doesn't do the thing that
(37:40):
it's supposed to do. That is like the entire promise
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's changed. I think it's changed the nature of a
lot of people's jobs if they're forced to use it
because their job has now become well, now I have
to double check that this lying machine right like is
not lying as much as it could be. It's just
like its funding the same amount of time. There's no
faster way to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The promise of it is definitely overrated so far.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's kind of it always kind of feels like it's
like it's coming from people who maybe weren't who were
good at like tech and not at other stuff, and
so I want the tech to fix the other stuff,
you know, Like it's like, oh, it'll make sport. I
wasn't good at football, but it'll make football so much better.
I can't act, but I can do this then that
(38:28):
thing to make actors. It's always feels like it's kind
of this other other thing. I feel like as far
as like actual legitimate business, it'll help in some ways,
but I mean it's kind of part of the issue
is that you don't you're not okay with error from
the robot.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
It's like if you were going to get like an.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
AI travel assistant and ask it to book you flights
and like plan out and trip for you and it
messes that up. Oh you like don't you won't be
okay with that the way you'd go like, oh, have
a agent some more on right, right, Like it's like
this weird kind of thing where because it's a robot
it needs to be perfect that it can't be perfect.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Interest it's bad at It's just I feel like people
are on the I've got the opposite side.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I'm like, it's an AI. Of course it makes the stake, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Right, but they yeah, yeah, It's like at a certain
point though, Yeah, the results are going to start becoming
a problem for them. Like there's just this like really
broad learning curve that I feel like we are We're
giving them a lot of grace with the like learning
curve of the AI because they are asking us to
(39:39):
I guess because so much of their money.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Is that Yeah, because because the CEOs are just like
heyay true, yeah, they needed to be true. They need
to be able to lay off forty percent of the workforce,
and that's all they're Jones did for.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, Yeah, to go back to the NBA. Like, I
feel like this is like when a GM can't put
a winning team together, so they just keep like they're like, oh,
we're tanking. We're like just acquiring, you know, picks for
the future and like just selling this hope. And eventually
it's just like people get tired of that. Yeah. Amazon
(40:16):
saw their share prices drop earlier this month. That be
after it was announced that they're spending two hundred billion
dollars on AI, and people are like, but like you
you don't have any results. Microsoft same thing because they
announced that the return on am but AI investment would
be further off than anyone expected. But like like they're
(40:39):
people were worried when they were spending two hundred and
fifty billion dollars in twenty twenty four. They're expected to
spend six hundred and fifty billion dollars in twenty twenty six,
so they're just ramping it up, and.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well, it's also likely to show for it. There are
something to show for. It will create our society.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
So that's right, Like this is gonna be great. You're
all going to be out of work.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Is that it puts millions of people at work.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, Troy, to your point about this being like the
tech the tech guys being like this is gonna be great.
We just like won't ever have to interact with each other.
It reminds me of their uh solve for food when
they're like soilent. Yeah, you know how the worst thing
about getting nutrients and like getting through the day is
(41:28):
having to eat spend time eating delicious food. Well, we've
we've solved for that. It's like this is like, you
know how the worst part of doing anything, Like, yeah,
there's some busy work that sucks, but it's just like
they just want to streamline everything so there's no human
interaction at all in anybody's day.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
So yeah, I'm still not, still not buying, but I
genuinely I have a theory that income disparity in Silicon Valley,
the barrier San Francisco specifically means that there's not I
don't know if teens on the street, these guys are
not they're dorks, And this is why we're here. If
we just need teens to tell them, these people your
(42:08):
fucking sociopathic nerds, their businesses would be in a better spot.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Just important me teenagers to San Francisco to the Bay Area.
This is a great pitch that Andrew. Andrew has two
goaded Hall of Fame theories. One is this and the
other is, uh, we just should never do satire. Satire
never works. We just need to never do satire ever again,
(42:35):
because people are just like American psycho that should be
a real guy named Clavicular.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I want to be Walter White.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yes, exactly, let's exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Uh people's heads here, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
It does, and then people just like it. Yeah, let's
take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about
Reese's cups and whether they're getting worse. We'll be ready
(43:10):
and we're back. Guys, we're running out of time, so
we're gonna just skip the important story about.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Hey, it's not gonna change, it's gonna be the same tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, we'll talk about the AI schools on Monday. We
might even talk about the Olympic ski jumper getting hit
with a leaf blower on Monday, depending on how jam
packed the Olympics are with scandals over the weekend. But
we do need to cover this important story because there's
been a lot of online theories over the years alleging
that Recee's Peanut butter cups just don't taste the dang
(43:44):
same anymore. I've always found them to be the first
I will I will start this off by saying they're
my favorite candy. Oh okay, that's why I love them.
I also don't have never thought that, Like, so the
thing that people say is like that it tastes more
like more chemically.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, like waxy, probably right, Like that's always been the thing.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, yeah, chocolate has gotten waxy. Okay, but yeah, I agree,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Like I don't know, man, I think you might have
these people might have slightly rose colored glasses of what
it was like to eat candy as a child because
they were shitty. Then, I promise I know.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
That's the thing. Like we can say movies are getting
worse because we can go back and watch the ones
from the eighties and be like this was these were
kind of that seem to be made by people who
like movies, whereas like candy is not there, Like we
only know when they've made their product shittier. When they're like,
all right, we're gonna do an ad campaign where we
(44:47):
admit that our products sucked, Like Domino's did that one time,
like otherwise we're just having to kind of guess at it.
Or in this case, when one of the like heirs
to the throne, HB. Rec came out and was like, hey,
(45:08):
look man, I'm I'm old. I don't really give a fuck.
They're replacing real peanut butter with peanut butter flavored creams man.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Sounds like a conspiracy theory from like the Sorry I
got that wrong, that this is Brad Reese, grandson of HP.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
The Mad Chemist. When I say I'm a peanutut peanut
butter cup, man, you will believe me my name is.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Sounds like a guy who died on the Titanic.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
He died doing what he loved, killing other people and
combining combining peanut chocolate peanut butter chocolate.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
I will say.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't know if this is a direct quote or
it's written down, but on the dock it says peanut
butter with peanut butter flavored crems and limbs. Yeah, you know,
cr which genuinely sounds nicer than peanut butter. I have
to say, what's a creb?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
I kind of want to just hang out with a
handy conspiracy theorist. Yeah, just a guy who's going like
they're replacing the peanut butter with peanut butter flavored creams.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Man, you.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Don't you get it. I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Think the confound is give any five year old of
Reese's peanut butter cup and they are not fucking complaining.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, But I also do think they're smaller than they were.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Definitely, that is definitely happening. It feels like we should
be able to just like look at the old packaging,
see what the ounces were, and but yeah, they're definitely
getting smaller. I mean, we covered like this was an
openly This was openly happening before Halloween this year was
because of the floundering economy, Chocolate prices head sky rocketed
(47:01):
and companies were openly admitting that they were lowering the
chocolate content of chocolate and just raising sugar. And they're like,
people won't complain if you just like make it more
jam packed with sugar, and it's like cheaper for us.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Like the tariffs on the cocoa or something, right, And
they were just like, okay, we'll give them more sugar.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Good old American and by sugar, you do mean good
old American cord syrup, right, probably there's no sugar.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny to see when corporations just
have us absolutely pegged like that.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, they're just like, yeah, they're definitely referring to us
as piggies. Yeah yeah, because they're narted up.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Their rightful counterpoint is who's gonna say ship, who's going
to do something about it? And America collective it is
like not me.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
We went from a model of capitalism where it's like
and you know, people will have to compete with one
another to give us the best product, and now it's
like one really powerful guy just being like what the
fuck are you gonna do about it? Pushing us in
the chest and then like giving us a feeding trough.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, what do you think of that? That eventually eat that?
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, look at you.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
We don't even we don't even respond. Our mouths are
too full of Troy.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
All right, Well, Troy, such a pleasure having you on
the daily. Where can people find you? Follow you? Experience
your new album.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
I Am at Troy Walker e s Q on Socials
and the album is called Esquire comes out uh to
uh today February on All you know, all the places
you get comedy albums iTunes, you know, all the all
the places you would if you said to yourself, I'm
(49:03):
gonna go listen to a comedy album, you can That's.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Where it'll be. Is there work a media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I've been really enjoying Night of the Seven Kingdoms new series.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Our usual co host was is really enjoying that as well.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
It's really really it's a it's a cool take because
I didn't know what it was in the last whatever
that last game of Throne spino Off was didn't really
didn't really grab me. But this one I like because
it's there's like a lot of humor to it. It's
funnier comedy game of throats. Yeah, it's great, but it
(49:43):
also is it's Yeah, I'm really I'm really enjoying that.
And I've also been rewatching Southland, which you know, Southland
is the cop show, right, It was on BC and
then it like did like the first season on NBC
(50:04):
and first or second and then they moved to Tne.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
The Kid from with the Kid from THEOC. Yeah, kid,
it's so good.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I paid it might be one of the best cop
shows ever.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Wow, how about that? This is the first time hearing
that this is something to check out.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
On Netflix.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Wonderful having you, Andrew. Where can people find you? Is
their working media? You've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Andrew t on social media Starter trek as available at
suboptimal Pods. Really enjoying that ship. What was the piece
of media? It was the no Other Choice?
Speaker 3 (50:41):
I know people have been watching it the Yeah, I
can't wait to see that. Still too expensive on the
on the rental front, it's like twenty dollars to rent.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Now, yeah, just wait, I guess it's just like on
the B side of Award seasons. I do very much
understand why the Academy was like, we already gave Paris,
already gave these people a parasite. Come on, we can't.
But yeah, I really really, I mean it's nothing new,
but I really enjoyed that movie.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Nice. All right? You can find me on Twitter at
Jack Underscore, O'Brien blue sky Jack Obe the number one
uh Instagram Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore, Brian working media I've
been enjoying. I'm gonna I'm gonna go off of no
other Choice and shout out decision to Leave the Park
cham Wik's last film, which was also really good and
(51:31):
I don't feel like it got some attention back then.
But in case you missed it, Park Tmwoks Decision to Leave,
you can find that. Yeah, it's good. It's like, you know,
it's the director of Old Boy. I don't know if you.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, it's the old Boy. Yeah guy.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
The director of Old Boy turns out rarely misses. He's
made some fucking bangers. You can find us on Twitter
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Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome to the.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Show, Thanks for having me, thanks for doing it.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Congrats on the new special app Today album.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's just an album. I wish it was an album. Yeah,
it's just an album. And yeah tomorrow, well we'll dropping
this one tomorrow. So just in a universe where we
are on Friday, just this is Friday time, I'm methoge Troy,
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so right. The only thing that's different is that I
believe that it's Friday, and I'm going to be doing
a lot of cool stuff, like talking about thank God
it's Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That's going to be most of the show. It was
just cool stuff about how cool Fridays are you, like
casual Fridays too?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh man, pass Friday. Change change your life once a week.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just go real cash with it. Like where pajama pants,
pajama pants Friday.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's called unemployed.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's right, Yeah, soon enough it will be Yeah, that's uh,
that's got fired on Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I haven't worked in a real office like workplace since
like decades ago. Do people, because I have seen how
people have changed what clothes they wear on airplanes, They've
gotten they've gone full pajamas.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You're doing you're doing. No one wears a suit on
the airplane anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm furious about this, Andrew, But like I do, wonder
have casual Friday has gotten more casual since I was
last working in an office. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I mean, you're looking very sharp for a podcast right now.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I know, business cash. I thank you very much. I'm
going to well, I'm going to dinner a couple of hours.
This isn't for us. That would not be No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four to twenty six,
episode five of dir Daily Zeitgeist. It was a production
of Iyheart Radio is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America share consciousness through the day's news.
We also have a new non news history version of
The Daily Zeikes dropping each Monday morning, where we do
a deep dive into the Zeikeeist through the lens of
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a different icon. Last week you to Tony Hawk, and
beginning of this week we had this guy, Andrew Tee
on to look at the very strange history of the
original cocaine cup.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Sure fun, I say smoke cocaine more times than I
normally do.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You do he said a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I love that he's spoked, he told you, and Jack's cocaine.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
In Jack's cocaine a very underrated way cocaine delivery. I'm
not gonna say underrated, but underutilized. It's really fallen out
of fashion, the cocaine injection. Sure Sherlock did it, and
people were like, maybe maybe not that way.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It might make you too observe it, right, that's the
problems too.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Dang two, dang sharp. It's Friday, February twentieth, twenty twenty six.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien. I do
apologize to the discord. I've just had a crazy morning.
Otherwise I would have used one of your akas. I'm
thrilled to be joined in our second seat by one
(03:39):
of our very favorite guests, say hilarious and brilliant producer
and TV writer you know from the Joss Racist podcast
and the New Starter Trek podcast. It's Andrew Tube.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bat Podas. Johnny Davis suggested that I was the pot
phantom of pot Opera. No, the pod opera pantom, Yeah opera.
It looked more like, well, I don't this is my
brain just getting i guess Epstein pilled. But even seeing
(04:11):
po D is just like I'm like, whoa, oh no, okay, yeah,
that's three of the letters right there. You know it's
too much, it's too much. I don't, I don't, I can't.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Why are you Phantom of the Pod Opera? Other than
a sick Apparently?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Apparently I suggested at some point doing an episode entirely
in a KA song parodies the whole episode where.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You would be hiding in the rafters. Yea, yes I did.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I did install a chandelier over Jack, just in case,
don't worry.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Things fancy, and it has a swing built into it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I do wear a tuxedo at all times, at all times.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Whether it be on the plane, whether it be on
a private plane. And we're not going to talk about
what the tail number is on that private WHOA, come on, dog, Andrew.
We're thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian
whose new album, Troy Walker Esquire is out today. It's
Troy Walker.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm very excited to talk to you about all manner
of news and nonsense.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
There you go. We're thrilled to have you a sharp
dressed man looking good explicitly.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Sir, I own.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
With buttons. I really do have like a handful. Like
I have like maybe two or three button shirts. And
I go into the office and like take like in
person meetings rarely enough that I'm like, still, I think
I'm at a good place where like they haven't figured
out my shirt scheme. It's just like, what if I
(05:54):
wear this button up shirt unbuttoned with a different colored
shirt underneath it than the one that I were last time?
Nobody's cat Yes, switch it up.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, my my, My situation is similar but a little
different in that I get I only have a few
button up shirts, but I get new ones when the
old ones stop buttoning.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well no when.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You got this one got tight on me?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, my shirt shirts do shrink, and they do shrink,
and that's that's a fact. Okay, the big shirt doesn't
want to admit, all right, So tight my neck, Troy.
We're thrilled to have you. We're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
(06:45):
gonna tell the listeners a couple of things. We're talking
about Donald Trump's making some more noises. Yeah, so we
do just I mean, as a service, we'll we'll tell
you what exactly is going on. They're all very rational,
very sane, and uh, you know, very very well reasoned.
We'll do a quick check in with AI. Also, I
feel like this is dominating news headlines lately. People are like, okay,
(07:07):
but seriously, this time, AI is about to get ready, fuckers,
come on to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Come on, brother, give me, give me just another, just another,
just another, like a couple of billion dollars in.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like all the water in Nevada. It's all we need,
and it will just magically make your job disappear. Like
the promise is uh, you know, it's almost too good
to be true. I can't wait. But uh, we just
want to look at like what is actually being done
with AI, which is so rarely part of that conversation.
(07:40):
It's really just like we will convert trillions of dollars
of investment into stock prices that go up, and uh,
executive CEO Boners.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, trillions of dollars of investment into millions of dollars of.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Profit for something some people. And then we'll also, yeah,
so we'll look at a new report about how often
the CEOs, the very people who seem to be most
excited about this technology are actually using that ship, and
then we'll also look at a new fully AI run school.
Oh hell yeah, that's almost as good as that that implies.
(08:24):
And and also the grandson of the recy fortune has
been like, look, let's admitted these are these are getting worse? Right?
These suck? They suck? Now?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What an ungrateful motherfucker? How dare you speak to name?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But I do, I do think this is happening, and
I don't think we have a great apparatus for like
spotting it when like a products just get worse. So
I do the boiler frog problem. They're just every month
they make the Reese's cups a little bit smaller, and
nobody notices until it's you know, we're all, you know,
(09:03):
celebrating and you know, using a knife and fork to
divvy up the prices cup to our family, and it's
actually the size of what used to be the little
fun sized cup. You're like a note anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
A cartoon hobo with a bean exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
How I feed my family all that plenty more. But first, Troy,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Well, yesterday I googled Days of thunder cast Hell yeah,
I don't know if you've seen that movie Days of Thunder? Yeah, no,
I mean no, but we how how did you get
into it?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Here's that? So I was on the plane.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I'm in Chicago currently and Days of Thunder was available
in my I don't want to brag to coach the United.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So okay, okay, sir, So you weren't You weren't in
a steerage. You weren't. You weren't in the overhead been
the way I like to travel. I just yeah, you know,
so we're talking about the Tom Cruise, Yeah, the Tom
Cruise film Days of Thunder. For some reason, my mind
went to, isn't there like an Australian magic mic show called.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like Thunder Thunder from down Under Thunder?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That vastly inferior to magic to the magic mic of
Vegas show as far.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I just wanted to make sure they caught strays real quick.
But Days of Thunder, yeah, classic eighties movie that I
saw when I was like nine, and it's been like
preserved in amber as a pretty good movie since I
saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, I mean I haven't. I haven't seen it in
a long time.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But I was talking with a friend about it just
the other day because I also saw it when I
was a kid.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I loved it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
And it is also one of those movies that's like
just very in my movie Wheelhouse by like eighty dude
movie Wheelhouse. Yeah, you know, because it's top Gun with cars.
It's just like, like, I love top Gun, Top Gun, Maverick,
give me a little.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm liked.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Apparently one of the only people that's that thinks F
one deserves to have been nominated for an Oscar.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I was gonna say, it's isn't it the same writers
F one or or same director or somebody it has
some DNA with F one? I believe, Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, I don't know if it's the same director,
but it's it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Maybe they're both scripts written by the same seven year
old who's like Cargo Go Fast and car Car last
I will say Days of Thunder not like for whatever
reason when you just mentioned it, it was like my
my brain wasn't contextualizing it correctly as a title, so
(11:51):
it goes so much harder than it needs to. Like
F one, even top Gun is just like top Gun
is the best gun, the one that's on the plane.
Days of Thunder is like, okay, all right, Shakespeare, pretty
pretty brilliant, pretty beautiful title for this NASCAR movie with
characters named Cole Trickle. They just certain certain names, certain
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parts of They're like, Yeah, this is a very straightforward
NASCAR movie about a kind of a dumb sport, and
we're just gonna pack poetry into the title and the
names of the characters.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You just had to do real titles at some point.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, Tom Cruise and a young Nicole kidman, and you're
gonna love us for it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, is that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Where they met?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Where they met? I think it's maybe like her first
big Hollywood movie. I'm not sure that's accurate, but I
think it may be.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, And this is vibes. This podcast is vibes only,
by the way, Jack, this podcast is vibes only.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, no facts, no facts, no, No, but it's I
could be wrong, I was.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Are you saying you could be wrong that Tom Cruise
might not be in that one?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, No, I'm saying I could be wrong as to
whether or not it is the kidna.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, but that's what it feels like, a curly yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, and she's after jacket and she's just staring at
Tom Cruise going like you, you idiot, you gearhead idiot.
And then she's like, but I love you. Yeah, and
I think you know, there's something beautiful about that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
According to Google's AI Overview, Nicole Kibmen's first major Hollywood
movie was the nineteen ninety action film Days of thunder Joy.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Congratulations, man, you have an I felt like that American
idol apprehension for a second before you revealed that you
had like a little bit of a pause.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, I don't know. American idol. Is that kind of
like Masked Singer?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's my family. You gave it that reality show review,
and it's like, am I about to look?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, you're You're there. You're the John Henry of movie facts.
You you's you versus AI. You're gonna win or you're
gonna die. I don't remember what happens at the end
of the John Henry.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
One of the nicest things anyone's ever said.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, John Henry, movie movie facts.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Have you guys watched The Masked Singer, by the way,
I'd never watched it. Yeah, I had never watched it.
And then we for the Tony hawk Icons episode. Sure
that one kind of has like a sad the Tony
hawk Icon story kind of as a sad ending where
it's like, you know, the end of Tar where she's like,
uh direct conducting music for a video game and like
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another country and like her career. Like that's kind of
how it felt with Tony Hawk, like being the the
first eliminated from the masked singer. But I had I
like watched the clip of him being revealed, and I
was like, wow, this is like truly dystopia, Like just
the feeling, the editing. It really is like on the
(15:10):
nose what any filmmaker from even like fifteen years ago
would have done. Like it like it feels like the
TV from the universe of RoboCop. Yeah, we're in Paulo Verse. Yes,
we live very Verhovian.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It's it's is.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It is depressing, especially because of the fact that it
feels like you can almost hear someone's agent going okay,
so Dancing with the Stars said, no, that's right, Like
it feels like right below that level of like having
fallen off, you know, just the whole idea where they
take the thing off and it's like, oh my god, Sarah, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They like pretend like they can't get it the head off,
so that like there's some really build up the suspense,
and I learned from that and that's why I built
up the suspense, and that's the way I overview.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I love the acting skills of the judges too, like
when they reveal it and they're like, oh, my ship.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Blown away.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Which person who can't sing is going to be outside?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yes, of course. What is something, Troy that you think
is underrated?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Chain restaurants under Yeah? Yeah, yeah, restaurants very underrated. I
feel like certain ones better than others. But you know,
I think I think you can't really you need to
appreciate the ability to be in almost any city in
the country and go cheesecake factory. Yeah, I'll be at
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least satisfied. You know, there's no like mistakes stuffed.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know, there's certain things that hit with like almost
every chain restaurant, Like anything in an egg roll like yeah,
you know, like that's just been like fried crispy and
has various cream cheese ingredients inside is just like, come on,
that's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Every version of mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yep, there's a reason those ships are chained up. There's
they're good.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They used to not be chain restaurants. I can tell
you that much.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I will.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I will say this and my genuinely I'm on somewhere
on social media public record. My friend Catherine, who is
like a food journalist, like an honest to god, full
ass full food journalist, did like an Instagram poll or
something one time. It was like, what's the most underrated
restaurant in Los Angeles? I replied, it is the Arby's
(17:47):
that is on Sunset Boulevard, by the way, rip to
that arby And she did say that one got the
most responses of people being like it actually is it
is this one and this one it's so rated, so low,
and it is fucking awesome, even if anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, it used to, yeah, I used to. I used
to stop at that Arby's.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Used to stop at that Arby's and really crash out, Yeah,
really just like blackout and come and then leave with
why did I order all this?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That Arby's?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Is that you just left a general meeting in Hollywood
and it didn't go right and you're about to get
on the highway. Arby's.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, it's right next to the Netflix quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, and you just said to yourself, like, you
know what fringe dips? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
They had me pitch off next to a iPad I
thing like a smiley face on it, and I lost. Yeah,
the masked writer, what if we took to your premise
and gave it to this ai.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That sounds good.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That does sound good? Actually, Troy, can you give us one,
like one order from a chain restaurant that you feel
like is like underrated or like something that everybody should get?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, so have you guys ever been to Texas Roadhouse?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I think is that the one with peanuts on the floor.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, they have a bucket of peanuts on Starting to
see the through line between this and Days of Thunder.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Is very me.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
The bon in Ribbi at Texas is one of the
truly like wow, cannot lose.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Because that is it is. That's that's an ambitious order
for a chain restaurant to go with.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, it will be perfectly cooked and perfectly seasoned every
single time. And it's like twenty five dollars for a
twenty ounce bon in Ribbi. It's like easily one of
the best steak deals you can get, and they have
it everywhere, and because you're a Texas roadhouse, you get
a bucket of peanuts and those those rolls with cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Butter people loved to Yeah, I love to roll Texas roadhouses.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Man, I'm I'm an evangelist.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
You know, the way you think, the way you've reacted
to Mike me saying the place with peanuts on the
floor is leading me to believe that maybe it only
has peanuts on the floor when I'm there, like, are
you not supposed to just throw them the shell?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
What I remember is like it was like kinda yeah,
I guess people probably do just throw them on the floor.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Just me.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We gotta look, we gotta look under Jack's desk right now,
because it's just show.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It looks like a hamster cage down there, just peanuts.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I don't know that they've actually got like a
like this is fine.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think like the corporate manual is like,
so you know part of your side work is sprinkle
peanuts shells on the floor.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Sure, Yeah, yeah, I think that maybe this was It
was also the last one I went to is when
I lived in Kentucky a long time ago, so maybe
maybe that was specific to Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I feel like you just sort of like sort of
like pig Pen from from Peanuts, you just got like
a cloud of peanut shells.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Or at all times, now that would have made sense
why that strip is called peanuts.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
He got peanuts, he does have peanuts shell.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Kept waiting for our lunchline, Troy, what's something you think
is overrated?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
In and out?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Okay? Oh, probably probably our most our most frequent overrated.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Really yeah, Okay, it's just rated too high. Do you
think do you think it's bad or do you think
it's just rated too high?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
No, I think it's good. I just think that, you know,
like when you talked to people of California about it
and it's like, you know, yeah, cool, It's like it's
like the most fresh, most this is such a good.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like your California.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's still look at my skateboarding.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, your voice, your voice is giving somehow stoned but
still calling the cops on someone at the same time.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I like to I like to thread the needle. But
I think, yeah, I think it's good. I just think
it tastes like Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It tastes like Wendy's really has like gone through its
ups and downs. There was a time when Wendy's had
fresh Yeah what was this the best?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I love Wendy's part time.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, It's like people would overseet, like, you know, I'm
from Colorado, so like people would you know, before they're
now they're area in announcing Colorado, but before that, people
would just come and like tell tale of it, you know,
like they would like comeing to you know, be like, oh,
you know, try California.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You must try.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
It's it's better than anything you've ever tried in your life.
One time I drove out the first time I ever
went to California. I tried it, took a bite, and went, oh,
this is Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
People will travel to Yeah, people will go out of
their way to go to in and out. That is
definitely true. Now, is there a little bit of Colorado
protectiveness here? Because that used to be true of Cores,
which I didn't I didn't realize until the first season
of Racious Gemstones, but that was like there's this Colorado
delicacy called cors Beer and you can like only get
(23:28):
it in Colorado, and people would like drive to Colorado
just to get it. Oh really, Yeah, I don't know
if there's I don't know if there was something special
about original recipe, corps or something.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Like anybody in from a state that's a square, you
have an insane pride for things that are Yeah. Yeah,
Like I didn't even like beer, and I'm still like
cours That's that's a hometown thing. We got cours Field
(23:59):
where the Rockies don't play baseball, and.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's older than your beer.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's got mountains on the can. Yeah, you know, it's good.
Our city and our state is largely pivoted to craft beer.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Beer.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, you guys are really polar on beer. You're the
You're literally the worst and worst and the best beers
are from Colora.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
It's really we've really leaned into the craft brewery situation. Yeah,
you know, as it's become like a real city.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Oh yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We're
gonna come back. We're gonna talk about the news. I
do have to give a quick shout out. Superducer Victor
wanted us to shout up the Triple Dipper from Chili's,
which is I don't know if it's underrated, but it
is the ratings.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
See the problem is Jack, you're you and I are
a bunch of fucking coastal elites. We underrate everything at
the chain restaurants. The problem, it's all way better than
we're holding up to, like Lexington, Kentucky being like, have
you guys tried Ruby Tuesdays?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah? What the fuck out of here? All right, so
it is good. Let's take a quick break, will be
right back and we're back, and uh, let's talk about war.
(25:31):
That's what everybody that's right. Uh, it's it's fun, it's
fun content. Uh, this is just you know, it seems
like Donald Trump is desperate for a distraction from the
epsteam files and the ice schoons and the economy and
the naked corruption and like everything else that you know
(25:53):
is happening with the administration. So they're gonna go full
George W. Bush on on all of our asses.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, there's a lot of saber rattling going on. He's
claims he's negotiating a deal with Iran, but it's not
really clear what the ask is. Like they say this
is about the nuclear program. Iran has stated that they
are fine not having nukes, So it's like, okay, so
we're good, we're good here, they make up something else
(26:23):
that I need to get from this.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The thing that he.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Wants least is iron like cooperating, which is so what
a weird dynamic. They're just like we can just fuck
with him by going like yeah, all right, exactly, sure,
that's fine. It's all good.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Because he's the one that blew up the nuclear deal
that though bother nuclear deal, he got rid of it,
and now they're like, make a nuclear deal, right, we
want a nuclear deal.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's all good, just like yeah. The whole thing is
just kind of like he did something and then yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Know, but it's also like, if you're Iran, it's so
easy to be like yeah, okay, and then just don't
do it because what's he's not even gonna know, Like
it's like negotiating with like a five year old, just
like yeah whatever, just let's line in his face. Who cares,
what's he gonna do about it.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We do, of course, know that the US is not
the only one negotiating here, and that Netna who's been
talking with Trump about these talks, and they probably both
they're coming from different places, they have different endgames. Trump
seems to be fine with being like I got Iran
to stop doing the nuke and then then yah, who
would rather drag the US and the world into World
(27:39):
War three? Yeah? So regional World War three.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I guess they're all pretty regional.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, that's it. I always refer to World War two
as a regional conflict. But personally, that's what I'm like.
I'm cool like that. Yeah, I don't know. At this point,
might be cool to start raising Israel's two hundred plus
new No, maybe that should be something that we introduced
into the conversation since they seem to naw dog be
(28:08):
a little bit of loose cannony.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
They're they're chill, They're the chillst and that's important to
keep in mind.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's right, all right, Moving on to AI, which I
do just feel like I'm seeing a lot of headlines
recently that it's just like, no, guys, but for real,
this time here comes AI to for real change your world.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Do you know how fast this AI is going to
know facts from Days of Thunder? Do you know how
fast that's Troy your fucking toast.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Bro I know, John Henry finished, it does like every
time this happens, I just do need to go and
do like a couple levels deep research to be like wait,
is it actually amazing?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Now?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Does it do anything good that? Like, yeah, they still
know I'm gonna be like, oh yeah, that's like they
still have the one thing where they like figured out
the structure of the proteins protein molecules, and like.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That was if that's fine, if I may Jack, I
saw this in the notes. I will also point out, though,
they love to hold up like the one time it works,
because that's what that's what they do for video creation,
for like fucking chatbot shit. It's like, oh my god,
look at what it can do, and they don't ever
point out the nine billion other nine hundred nine nine
(29:34):
billion other times that it doesn't work. Yeah, so you know,
great assault on even the protein thing. It's just like
it took so many shots in the fucking dark. One
of them had to work, right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And both like.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
That that video they were everybody was sharing of the AI,
Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt like that's another one of
a building, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's like, yeah, that looks good.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
But whenever it goes in a close up, you're like
I kind of feel like I saw this from se
this is just set. Yeah, you know, it's like that
kind of thing. I kind of feel like AI is
only really gonna it'll it'll like work to like supplement things. Yeah,
like when you just googled, yeah, got your little uh
the AI summary that you that you just got a
(30:17):
second ago, it'll be that, and like.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It'll work for porn. Yeah, yeah, I think those will be.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like the two things the Tom Cruise and Brad pittsing
too was just a face replaced they they they the
Twitter people were like, oh, all you know, it was
like a blank thing. We just said, show me Tom
Cruise and Brad pit fighting. It turns out it was
like a shot video with a face replacement.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
They just put their faces on someone else, I think.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
But as far as I saw on like Blue Sky,
uh so, who knows.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, but we don't. We don't source things. We don't
fact check things because we hold ourselves to the same
standard as the thing we're discussing, which in this case
does not fact check anything and it is permitted to
hallucinate act. But it just yeah, as best as I
can tell, we're not seeing any anything that's cool or
(31:09):
like the change it like even if let's say the
Brad Pitt Tom Cruise thing is real, they just type
make Brad Pit fight Tom Cruise into a AI engine
and it makes that video, Like what does that do?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Like? Who's that?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
How does that change the world? Like I still haven't
seen that thing other than using it as a tool
for like scientific research and discovery. Great, yes, please keep
doing that, but they need all this investment, and so
it's just these like broad pie in the sky things.
The thing that made me think about it was Adam Silver,
(31:48):
the commissioner of the NBA, who are have many problems
going on with their league and you know, owners and
players directly funding or participating in war crimes, et cetera,
et cetera. They are He like gave this state of
(32:08):
the League thing at All Star weekend and he said,
as I look at the world and the predictions, and
we're seeing much of it already on how AI is
changing everything about our personal lives, our business lives. For me,
there's no doubt AI will have the same impact on sports.
Oh dope. What one area in particular that I think
(32:31):
is worth addressing is impact on the fan experience. One
of the things we're beginning to see already is how
we're going to more than personalized, almost hyper personalize our telecasts.
That's gonna suck so bad. Yeah, that's gonna be so bad.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think these people genuinely don't understand what a culture
is like, right, Like because these people the other thing
they bring up all the time is like, oh, you
could get it to generate an episode of Game of
Throats us for you, starring you and your boys or whatever,
And it's like, that's not television. That's like a card
(33:07):
for yourself. No one else wants to see that, and
then you're just in a vacuum by yourself. It's so
insane that they think people want that.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
A lot of this stuff is like, oh, here's your
AI companion. Yeah, that's just sad.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Has anybody had a good experience with that? Like I
know people who have used it to be like, hey,
could you organize my computer? Like help me organize these files?
Has anyone had like a good personalized experience? Like I
feel like the way this is going to go is
you're gonna be watching an NBA game that like just
like compliments you, yeah, and is like look at that
(33:46):
play Jack that was amazing. Yeah, it's amazing that you're
watching this NBA game. It's amazing that you asked about
how many rebounds. I'm really smart.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, Like I think it's just a what's the definition
of good? I think there are a lot of people
that enjoy that interaction, but I think the data seems
to be showing that's not good for them or for anyone.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think it'll be feeling good for video games, porn,
and it's like a fun thing to play with, but
that's not how it's being pitched to anyone.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I feel like it's it's it'll work well as a
tool to help you get like cut down on how
much work you have to put into stuff, and then
it'll work for things where like the actual quality is
not that important, you know, Like that's where like where
it'll be. That's why I think you're I think you're
right where it's like, okay, it'll work kind of for
(34:41):
video games and help them code. And then there's like
the weird like AI girlfriend porn stuff where it's like,
you know, these are guys who are buying flash lights.
They don't care if she's got six fingers.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Got to consider that six six fing.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So it's kind of like this, like I feel like
it's gotta be you know, it'll be helpful in as
a tool in stuff that requires quality control and people
can plug whatever into it and have it kick it
out for stuff that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, like the personality pitch. Every time the AI
bros talk, it feels to me like their pitch basically
boils down to, hey, we've all wanted to have a slave,
haven't we? And it's like, no, doc, what are you
talking about? That's genuinely how they talk, like whoa, what
do you wanted this? And it's like, oh really, man,
(35:38):
kind of like.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, it always, it always. Kind of it reminds me
of like the Bitcoin stuff, where it's kind of like
underlying it is kind of like this, like I can't
function in normal society to it of like, no, man,
I don't want regular actual money. I need money where
no one knows where it came from or where it's going.
(36:03):
I need like you know, my bank accounts have been closed?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah what if? What if this dollar bill could be
worth between half and twice as much as it is
at any given second?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Don't you see the advantage?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Man? Don't you see the advantage the government can't seize
my assets. It's like yeah, I do, but like I
got to admit, I've never really been that concerned about that.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's weird that you're so worried about that.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's kind of like that kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, just in terms of like what they're actually using
it for, because this does seem to be a thing
that Wall Street is starting to pay more and more
attention to. Is like okay, so, like what when will
there be results because they're just shoveling money into any
research and there's been a couple of studies recently. Some
(36:56):
people have even suggested, like this is why they're going
so hard on the to like get ready to have
your whole world fucking rocked, guys. Is because there's like
these surveys, like they just surveyed thousands of CEOs and
two thirds of executives use AI, but they use it
for an average of ninety minutes a week yea, And
(37:18):
like they they also are like trying. You know, there
was this initial pitch in twenty twenty three from an
AI researcher being like, this is going to increase workers
performance by nearly forty percent once it's adopted, and like,
of the people who have adopted it, they like haven't
increased productivity at all, like doesn't do the thing that
(37:40):
it's supposed to do. That is like the entire promise
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's changed. I think it's changed the nature of a
lot of people's jobs if they're forced to use it
because their job has now become well, now I have
to double check that this lying machine right like is
not lying as much as it could be. It's just
like its funding the same amount of time. There's no
faster way to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The promise of it is definitely overrated so far.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's kind of it always kind of feels like it's
like it's coming from people who maybe weren't who were
good at like tech and not at other stuff, and
so I want the tech to fix the other stuff,
you know, Like it's like, oh, it'll make sport. I
wasn't good at football, but it'll make football so much better.
I can't act, but I can do this then that
(38:28):
thing to make actors. It's always feels like it's kind
of this other other thing. I feel like as far
as like actual legitimate business, it'll help in some ways,
but I mean it's kind of part of the issue
is that you don't you're not okay with error from
the robot.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
It's like if you were going to get like an.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
AI travel assistant and ask it to book you flights
and like plan out and trip for you and it
messes that up. Oh you like don't you won't be
okay with that the way you'd go like, oh, have
a agent some more on right, right, Like it's like
this weird kind of thing where because it's a robot
it needs to be perfect that it can't be perfect.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Interest it's bad at It's just I feel like people
are on the I've got the opposite side.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I'm like, it's an AI. Of course it makes the stake, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Right, but they yeah, yeah, It's like at a certain
point though, Yeah, the results are going to start becoming
a problem for them. Like there's just this like really
broad learning curve that I feel like we are We're
giving them a lot of grace with the like learning
curve of the AI because they are asking us to
(39:39):
I guess because so much of their money.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Is that Yeah, because because the CEOs are just like
heyay true, yeah, they needed to be true. They need
to be able to lay off forty percent of the workforce,
and that's all they're Jones did for.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, Yeah, to go back to the NBA. Like, I
feel like this is like when a GM can't put
a winning team together, so they just keep like they're like, oh,
we're tanking. We're like just acquiring, you know, picks for
the future and like just selling this hope. And eventually
it's just like people get tired of that. Yeah. Amazon
(40:16):
saw their share prices drop earlier this month. That be
after it was announced that they're spending two hundred billion
dollars on AI, and people are like, but like you
you don't have any results. Microsoft same thing because they
announced that the return on am but AI investment would
be further off than anyone expected. But like like they're
(40:39):
people were worried when they were spending two hundred and
fifty billion dollars in twenty twenty four. They're expected to
spend six hundred and fifty billion dollars in twenty twenty six,
so they're just ramping it up, and.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well, it's also likely to show for it. There are
something to show for. It will create our society.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
So that's right, Like this is gonna be great. You're
all going to be out of work.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Is that it puts millions of people at work.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, Troy, to your point about this being like the
tech the tech guys being like this is gonna be great.
We just like won't ever have to interact with each other.
It reminds me of their uh solve for food when
they're like soilent. Yeah, you know how the worst thing
about getting nutrients and like getting through the day is
(41:28):
having to eat spend time eating delicious food. Well, we've
we've solved for that. It's like this is like, you
know how the worst part of doing anything, Like, yeah,
there's some busy work that sucks, but it's just like
they just want to streamline everything so there's no human
interaction at all in anybody's day.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
So yeah, I'm still not, still not buying, but I
genuinely I have a theory that income disparity in Silicon Valley,
the barrier San Francisco specifically means that there's not I
don't know if teens on the street, these guys are
not they're dorks, And this is why we're here. If
we just need teens to tell them, these people your
(42:08):
fucking sociopathic nerds, their businesses would be in a better spot.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Just important me teenagers to San Francisco to the Bay Area.
This is a great pitch that Andrew. Andrew has two
goaded Hall of Fame theories. One is this and the
other is, uh, we just should never do satire. Satire
never works. We just need to never do satire ever again,
(42:35):
because people are just like American psycho that should be
a real guy named Clavicular.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I want to be Walter White.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yes, exactly, let's exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Uh people's heads here, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
It does, and then people just like it. Yeah, let's
take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about
Reese's cups and whether they're getting worse. We'll be ready
(43:10):
and we're back. Guys, we're running out of time, so
we're gonna just skip the important story about.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Hey, it's not gonna change, it's gonna be the same tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, we'll talk about the AI schools on Monday. We
might even talk about the Olympic ski jumper getting hit
with a leaf blower on Monday, depending on how jam
packed the Olympics are with scandals over the weekend. But
we do need to cover this important story because there's
been a lot of online theories over the years alleging
that Recee's Peanut butter cups just don't taste the dang
(43:44):
same anymore. I've always found them to be the first
I will I will start this off by saying they're
my favorite candy. Oh okay, that's why I love them.
I also don't have never thought that, Like, so the
thing that people say is like that it tastes more
like more chemically.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, like waxy, probably right, Like that's always been the thing.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, yeah, chocolate has gotten waxy. Okay, but yeah, I agree,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Like I don't know, man, I think you might have
these people might have slightly rose colored glasses of what
it was like to eat candy as a child because
they were shitty. Then, I promise I know.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
That's the thing. Like we can say movies are getting
worse because we can go back and watch the ones
from the eighties and be like this was these were
kind of that seem to be made by people who
like movies, whereas like candy is not there, Like we
only know when they've made their product shittier. When they're like,
all right, we're gonna do an ad campaign where we
(44:47):
admit that our products sucked, Like Domino's did that one time,
like otherwise we're just having to kind of guess at it.
Or in this case, when one of the like heirs
to the throne, HB. Rec came out and was like, hey,
(45:08):
look man, I'm I'm old. I don't really give a fuck.
They're replacing real peanut butter with peanut butter flavored creams man.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Sounds like a conspiracy theory from like the Sorry I
got that wrong, that this is Brad Reese, grandson of HP.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
The Mad Chemist. When I say I'm a peanutut peanut
butter cup, man, you will believe me my name is.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Sounds like a guy who died on the Titanic.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
He died doing what he loved, killing other people and
combining combining peanut chocolate peanut butter chocolate.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
I will say.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't know if this is a direct quote or
it's written down, but on the dock it says peanut
butter with peanut butter flavored crems and limbs. Yeah, you know,
cr which genuinely sounds nicer than peanut butter. I have
to say, what's a creb?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
I kind of want to just hang out with a
handy conspiracy theorist. Yeah, just a guy who's going like
they're replacing the peanut butter with peanut butter flavored creams.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Man, you.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Don't you get it. I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Think the confound is give any five year old of
Reese's peanut butter cup and they are not fucking complaining.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, But I also do think they're smaller than they were.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Definitely, that is definitely happening. It feels like we should
be able to just like look at the old packaging,
see what the ounces were, and but yeah, they're definitely
getting smaller. I mean, we covered like this was an
openly This was openly happening before Halloween this year was
because of the floundering economy, Chocolate prices head sky rocketed
(47:01):
and companies were openly admitting that they were lowering the
chocolate content of chocolate and just raising sugar. And they're like,
people won't complain if you just like make it more
jam packed with sugar, and it's like cheaper for us.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Like the tariffs on the cocoa or something, right, And
they were just like, okay, we'll give them more sugar.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Good old American and by sugar, you do mean good
old American cord syrup, right, probably there's no sugar.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny to see when corporations just
have us absolutely pegged like that.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, they're just like, yeah, they're definitely referring to us
as piggies. Yeah yeah, because they're narted up.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Their rightful counterpoint is who's gonna say ship, who's going
to do something about it? And America collective it is
like not me.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
We went from a model of capitalism where it's like
and you know, people will have to compete with one
another to give us the best product, and now it's
like one really powerful guy just being like what the
fuck are you gonna do about it? Pushing us in
the chest and then like giving us a feeding trough.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, what do you think of that? That eventually eat that?
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, look at you.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
We don't even we don't even respond. Our mouths are
too full of Troy.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
All right, Well, Troy, such a pleasure having you on
the daily. Where can people find you? Follow you? Experience
your new album.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
I Am at Troy Walker e s Q on Socials
and the album is called Esquire comes out uh to
uh today February on All you know, all the places
you get comedy albums iTunes, you know, all the all
the places you would if you said to yourself, I'm
(49:03):
gonna go listen to a comedy album, you can That's.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Where it'll be. Is there work a media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I've been really enjoying Night of the Seven Kingdoms new series.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Our usual co host was is really enjoying that as well.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
It's really really it's a it's a cool take because
I didn't know what it was in the last whatever
that last game of Throne spino Off was didn't really
didn't really grab me. But this one I like because
it's there's like a lot of humor to it. It's
funnier comedy game of throats. Yeah, it's great, but it
(49:43):
also is it's Yeah, I'm really I'm really enjoying that.
And I've also been rewatching Southland, which you know, Southland
is the cop show, right, It was on BC and
then it like did like the first season on NBC
(50:04):
and first or second and then they moved to Tne.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
The Kid from with the Kid from THEOC. Yeah, kid,
it's so good.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I paid it might be one of the best cop
shows ever.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Wow, how about that? This is the first time hearing
that this is something to check out.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
On Netflix.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Wonderful having you, Andrew. Where can people find you? Is
their working media? You've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Andrew t on social media Starter trek as available at
suboptimal Pods. Really enjoying that ship. What was the piece
of media? It was the no Other Choice?
Speaker 3 (50:41):
I know people have been watching it the Yeah, I
can't wait to see that. Still too expensive on the
on the rental front, it's like twenty dollars to rent.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Now, yeah, just wait, I guess it's just like on
the B side of Award seasons. I do very much
understand why the Academy was like, we already gave Paris,
already gave these people a parasite. Come on, we can't.
But yeah, I really really, I mean it's nothing new,
but I really enjoyed that movie.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Nice. All right? You can find me on Twitter at
Jack Underscore, O'Brien blue sky Jack Obe the number one
uh Instagram Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore, Brian working media I've
been enjoying. I'm gonna I'm gonna go off of no
other Choice and shout out decision to Leave the Park
cham Wik's last film, which was also really good and
(51:31):
I don't feel like it got some attention back then.
But in case you missed it, Park Tmwoks Decision to Leave,
you can find that. Yeah, it's good. It's like, you know,
it's the director of Old Boy. I don't know if you.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, it's the old Boy. Yeah guy.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
The director of Old Boy turns out rarely misses. He's
made some fucking bangers. You can find us on Twitter
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Speaker 4 (52:19):
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Betrayal Season 5
Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.