Selling Disaster, Man With Facelift = CLONE!!! 03.03.26

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Justin. Is this place cool though, it's amazing. Where are
you hopefully I'm going to be moving to Echo Yeah,
Echo Park literally right across the street, so we'll see,
and right by one of the best fish sandwiches. Oh,
you got to show me around the neighborhood. I haven't
spent my little there's little fish. All the local spots
are so good and like the Vietnamese bakery, tell me

(00:25):
about it. Their bag getts, Oh my god, bro like
pillowly crusty. It's like if if it's like a cloud
got pink guy.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Bomber cloud got pink guy.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, I woke up with pink guy because it's crusty,
real crusty, but pillow on the inside. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I do like that actually, that cloudy, like once you
describe it, it's good, but it does because of the
connotation the pink guy coming from fecal and getting guarded
directly into your yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
And then turning into puss.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I feel like they don't want that.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And maybe is there a krem in there? You said
puss no, no, no, yeah, yeah no, see that's unless
tests another baker.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I know, pink delicious crem.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Miles like he's like an incredibly poetic food reviewer, but
all this ship is just disgusting, Like they stop it.
Raves got her restaurant closed.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Their empanadas remind me of Fournier's Gang Green. If I may,
don't look that up. Don't look it up, because that
was one of the first things when my best friend,
who became like a trauma nurse, was like told me
about it. Yeah, she said, don't look it up, and
I know you're going to look it up anyway. Yeah, yeah,

(01:52):
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
This barbecue like a soldier in World War One with
swamp foot is falling off the bone.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Tender, yeah, tender tender.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season four to twenty eight,
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It's the podcast where you take a deep dive into
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(02:27):
the zeitgeist through the lens of a different ike icon.
And uh, this week we got Stephen King. Dude, what
what a run?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
What a run?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I didn't want to run from this guy shout out
to cocaine yet the first PSA four cocaine. Man he
got he eventually got clean. He wouldn't have made you
wouldn't have written half of the books. But man, he
had a a wild run of books that were very
popular that he doesn't remember.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah. I came away from that episode being like, thank
god you married that lady. Dude. Yeah, wife, but you
are cooked. But yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Anyways, it is Tuesday, March second, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
No, it's March third. Technically, if it's Tuesday, you got it, Miles.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's Tuesday, March third, six Yeah, two six.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Good. But National muld Wine Day, which feels I feel
like you're a few months off for hot wine. Maybe
do that in just Olmberg. National cold Cuts Day, National
I want you to be happy day and not all
gotten forget National Anthem Day.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Today's not the day for that anyway, Not today, Not today.
National Anthem Day. Yeah, National National Anthem Day.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I think it's just national and I think just National Anthem.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Day, you know what I mean. Yeah, so it can
be any anthem.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be good.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Uptown anthem by noughty, by nature.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Remember exactly could be? Could be? Or what play was?
The was the one? Uh not players ball?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
What was that one called international players?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
International international players anthem?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yes, yeah, that is exactly a fucking great song and
the one that I wish I had cooled, but instead
I pulled a Naughty by Nature song that is pretty forgettable.
I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's okay, it's okay, it's all right.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka what the fall.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
In improv God, Kev's gun hands, this man go smells
like shit.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I say that onean courtesy of First Blood five twenty
two on the discord. I got that one was four miles,
but I got to get in there.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
There's too many Kevin s improv.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Kevin Sorbo improv the gift that keeps on giving. Well
the fuck? What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
This smells like shit?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, the real Savin Sorbo is giving children improv lessons,
and we couldn't help. Let spend forty five minutes of
a recent episode imagining what what that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
How little improv it's gonna be. It's just gonna be
him yelling whatever he thinks is funny and vulgar, and
call it improv yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, always always pull the gun, pull the guh yeah
you got, you got. I'm thrilled to be joined, as
always by my co host, mister Miles Grass.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Miles Great AKA.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
I know you'd like to think soorbos and prov stinks,
but remember during the Harald he said, rosies smell really
smell like ship.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
What the fuck these rosies smell like ship everything that
every specific that they give him the thing, his his
reaction is just to smell, and.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's our idea. If the suggestion is mango, this is
how the scene starts. Oh what the fuck is mango?
Stings like shit, and then leaves your improv partner very
little room to work with. He why are you pointing
a gun at me?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
No, it doesn't exactly, No it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yes it does.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Seven minutes later, it's not like shit, Yeah, Miles.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a hilarious writer and comedian who produces and co hosts
the great podcast Lady Lady, which just launched a Dawson's
Creek rewatch show on Patreon. Please welcome back to the show.
It's Test Barker.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh my god, so happy to be here. You guys
always happy to be here talking poop, talking mold wine.
I was, I forget I'm supposed to talk in the
beginning part because I have so many feelings about mold wine.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, let's mold them, let's hold them together, let's molder.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You're exactly right. It's a December beverage, and it's one
that people don't indulge in enough because it's a combination
candle and.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wine, like you're drinking a yeah candle store.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah yeah, which as a basic pitch, that's like what
I that's all of the things that I like.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So, yeah, tell me.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Do you like cold foam on a coffee drink? No?
Oh god, well there you go.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I'm my basic bee lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Do you like like the flavored Starbucks ones? Like when
they go?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I just started. I have a coffee maker. I didn't
realize I can make cold foam, and I said, what
the fuck is this? And I made it and I
was just like, what the fuck? It tastes pretty good,
it tastes. I just it was the it was the
texture I was not ready for. And I was like,
this ship's cold, and yeah, it's like a cloud got pink.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Cut crasty elephant could come on me because it's cold
and anyway foaming crimactic.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You saved it.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You saved it.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, Test, We're thrilled to have you here. Just how's
the Dawson's Creek thing going? I'm assuming you did not
know that Dawson himself would be passing. No, we didn't
know that I made this decision.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, we didn't know that at all.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Or did you guys?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Cause it manifest yeah right now because I'm a woman
miles and winter wet. No, it's been a lot, but
I loved it the first time around. I love I'm
Naughty's culture. The music has taken me back like a
whiff of c K one.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Been a lot of fun, damn one.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, there's the thing about Dawson's like when you watch it,
like if you're a millennial, there's a lot of culture
in there that we've revisited the greatest hits, right, Like
we know about the low rise jeans and the body glitter,
but like there's like eve six songs that I've forgotten
and there are like there are just.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like still in there because that will just be like
here's the sound alike because we love the rights to this,
particularly for thirty years or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, yeah, somebody in Kevin Williamson's world is keeping the
money for the catalog. Yeah yeah, I also want to.
I also have another podcast that's my solo podcast. It's
called Pop Mystery Pod, where I go really deep into
pop culture stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
The latest mystery, what's the latest mystery, what's your favorite
mystery you've solved? Oh well, first latest and then the greatest, Okay,
what's the latest?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
And then give Well I do so every week. I
do like a real deep dive, and I kind of
I do as much like firsthand reporting as I can.
I just an episode about.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Angeline shot out the legend Yeah legend.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, So that one was really fun. I talked to
somebody who spends a lot of time with her and
got the inside tea.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I like her.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well there's this is this is tea.
But there's more. There's more than one vet and there's
than Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's big.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, but I have a big I do documentary episodes,
the chat episodes. But so I have an episode coming
out this week where I did a deep dive on
the movie Groundhog Day and how it relates to the
Camus essay the myth of Sisyphis. So I do kind
of like different pop culture phenomena.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Deep that's really.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Cool, right up. My love both Groundhog Days and I
think is going to break through one of these days.
That's the best ship I ever heard.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Into this podcast, man, I.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Can't wait to check it out. We do have a
bit of a pop culture mystery today on the show.
We're going to get to know you a little bit
better tests in a moment. But first, uh, first of all,
we're going to talk about the war, the illegal war
that the US and Israel just launched us all into.
I'm just going to check in with the right how
they handling it all, because it's a lot to throat.

(11:01):
It's a big boot to throat, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
To get crammed down your mouth.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, so they're trying to figure.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Out gymnastics for people who don't seem like they stretch.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah right, yeah, that's right, right.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So we're just gonna check in with them because we're
always worried about them and how everything's being sold. Will
check in with the Netflix deal that is no more
and what exactly is happening with David Ellison and his
ability to buy everything, everything all at once, no matter what.
Because the paramount is trying to buy Warner Brothers. It

(11:37):
seems like they're going to be able to despite the
fact that, yeah, it's a crazy story. So we'll just
briefly talk about that long story. Short, the entertainment industry
is not going to be ruined in the very specific
way we thought it was when Netflix was going to
take over, and like ruin movie theaters is going to
be ruined in a different specific way that's going to
be even a little harder to predict.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Find out how it gets even worse.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Then we're going to talk about a pop culture conspiracy,
which is why did that clone go up and accept
an award and claimed to be Jim Carrey? Tess, I
don't know if you're if you're aware, but Jim Carrey
just received the Lifetime Achievement Award at the CESAR Awards
in Paris, and somebody else went up there and got it.

(12:24):
Either he got plastic surgery or somebody else went up
there and got it got the award for him. So
we're going to talk about these sorts of conspiracies where
people are like, wait, what he looked different. Now, a
clone clone has got to be a clone.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Clones only in those very specific.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Clones, in such a very specific, weird way.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Only when you're the recipient of a French Lifetime Achievement award,
then it calls for a clone.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Not even the Mark Twain Prize.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Like yeah, okay, right exactly. So we're gonna talk about
that plenty more. But first test, we do like to
ask our guest, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Ah the Amtrak schedule. I took the surf Liner this weekend.
I absolutely, I took it up to I'm from Ventura County,
so I went to see the girl he's in Ventura,
Hell yeah. And I just love the Surfliner. I love
train travel. I am somewhat like evangelistic about it. I
mean it's just such a lovely way to spend a day.

(13:28):
I get good writing done on the train. I love
them track.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
That was the first thinking. That was my first like
long American train ride because going to Japan, like, the
train's just way better. And I always wanted to be like,
what what's going in American? My Mom's like I don't know, man,
Like where should we go and I remember we went
up to Santa Barbara on the surf Liner and I
just was my mind was blown that I could see
the ocean out of the side of it. I remember

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as a kid, I was like, this thing's by the ocean. Yes,
it is a very musical train.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's romantic. It's beautiful. I mean you can get closer
to the water on the train than you can in
a car.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You're like, yeah, yeah, right over the water.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh, it's wonderful. And it's like, I love taking the
train if I have to go downtown. I'm training it
because I feel so superior to people who are sitting
in traffic when I'm on a train.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah right right, just hanging out the window giving them
the finger.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Have you seen Yeah, Like the D Line subway extension
and the La Metro's selling shirts that says ride the
d Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I need, I need the Orange Love Coaster. They're taking
some of that flavor from the F Line. The Orange Coaster.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh yeah, it's the Purple Ride, the Purple d You're like, yo, okay, it's.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
A little guy. It's like it's like the train.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You're like, all right, sorry, we're extending it.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Different stuff. We're not good at this.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Sorry, we should have said it's just extending the access
of down Wiltshire Boulevard.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Better better say that ride the D extension. Do you
have an extension? Yeah, it's necessary. Yeah, find a new angle.
What you know, what I like about trains on the
East Coast that I think is underrated is that they

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are a different They were built in a different time
than the highways, and so you're like cutting through different
like layers of time, almost like you're like going through
like little chunks of town that have been like abandoned
and stuff. You know, you're just seeing like a cross
section of the East Coast, especially that like you don't

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see otherwise. It's just like a weird It was like
back when the train was the thoroughfare that everybody like
went on and came to, and that you'll just see
like a little ghost town zip by as you're flying
down down the East Coast. I do love it.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I love that, or like some towns really do up
their train station, like you can tell that that's the
cool thing to do in town, is go to the
train station. I love passing through those kind of places,
and I have fantasies about just like hopping off and
spinning an afternoon or one of those random places.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, me too. But then after the sundowntown.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like riding the
rails could become cool again as we like fall into
this great depression that nobody's admitting is the economic depression.
Just yeah, yeah, we start riding the rails again, and
we're all.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Smoking cigarettes again, like just let us smoke cigarettes on
the rails.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, cigarettes are so bad, it's crazy, how crazy? And
I knew when Beyonce was smoking cigs at the at
the fucking tour, the Cowboy Carter Tour. I said, bro,
get ready, bro, because if Beyonce just cigarettes are fucking back.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Bro with those pipes. If she's smoking, oh yeah, we're
all smoking yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Smoking cigarettes, smoking stoves and shit. Like she was like
she was puffing big like maca noodles, like big ass
fucking stogies and shit. It was definitely like an aesthetic,
but it was one of those things I go.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
That shit look cool, like that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Shelling like Delroy Lindo and a little bit.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
It was just like, I mean, smoke would be slow mode,
billowing out. You know, a lot of Heroes slow mo
shots of her doing that and that alone, I was like, bro,
I don't know what the Marbo people paid you for that,
but they probably got their money's worth right there.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't know. Yeah, Tess, what is something you think
is underrated?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Underrated? I'm actually gonna say, I just did an episode
about Angeline and her music is really good. I went
into this researching this episode like thinking and everyone else
that she was just like that the billboard, just the
person that was like kind of an image. But then
I started listening to her music and it is like gritty,
almost like The Runaways or like Bikini Kill. Like it's

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like a gritty nineties and eighties punk, and I'm like,
legitimately I would expect. Yeah, I recommend people check it out.
It's it's better than I was expecting.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
And just for people Angeline, for people who aren't who
don't know, aren't familiar. This is an icon who kind
of built herself with billboards, right, like.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, yeah, she's sort of like thought of as almost
like the godmother of the Paris Hiltans and the influencers,
like she thought of as being the first person who
was famous for no reason. Basically, what I found out
is she was able to get this guy who made
like his business was blowing up prints of things, and
she got this guy to like make the billboards for

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her and put them up all over town.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
And that's famous. Yeah, yeh yeah. She's like an LA
legend like for LA. Like especially when I was like
a kid too in the eighties and nineties, those billboards
were fucking everywhere, and You're always like, who is and
it was always just it was just her with her
blonde hair, pink outfit and pink right, Angeline.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
No information, no phone number, no nothing. It was just Angeline.
You know what the fuck is up exactly. It would
be the thing where like as Cage, I saw a Corvette, dude.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I saw.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, I'm still like that.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean, do you I think it's good luck if
you see her.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I never even thought of it like that, but now
I'm gonna have to, and now I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's like an indensibility star once you see her.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I saw Angeline and I jumped. I ran into traffic
and the cars bounced off of me.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's crazy, but I do love that asymmetrical warfare of celebrity,
Like everybody else is like, well, I'm trying to like
meet somebody who can get me an agent or something.
She's like, I'm trying to meet somebody who can blow
up photographs so I can put those photographs up in
places so that I become like a Where's Waldo in

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real life? For the people of Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
It's brilliant and I think it's I found you were
so inspiring because I think everyone in LA is like
wait for someone else to make things happen for them,
and she just really took her feet into her own
hands and did something that no one else had done.
I mean, it's such a simple idea, but she really
came up with it, So I just love her.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I didn't realize she was born in Poland her parents.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Were a holocauster Viberse. Her parents met in a concentration camp.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You got to listen to your ship because there's also
a mini series that came out recently too. I think
on was it Hulu or something?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, on Hulu or Peacock. I think Emmy rasam Uhlin
and she's excellent. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
What is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Fucking protein protein, cold foam protein popcorn, but protein in
general is overrated.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, where are we going with this?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Tell me about it?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Like, I don't need it anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I can just get protein and fused water right now.
I know you are skeptic. I just put in a
lipper of protein, proteins in proteins. Yeah, well, if you're in.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
It and you're having fun, that's one thing. But I
just think like we're all being it feels like really
tied to like toxic masculinity. To me, protein does like
it feels like exactly for your and like I don't know,
as someone who is not given a shit about protein
my entire life. Every time I go to the doctor,
they're like, don't change anything, so just learn from me.
You guys.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Hard. Don't change anything. They said, you've hit the goddamn
genetic lottery.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
We didn't think this is ever gonna happen, but we
put her don't.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Do a fucking thing. And that's my advice to everyone else.
You can be like me. No, I get everything. Is
that emphasis of like everything being like protein enhanced is
feels fucking creepy.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
There's like a waffle that my kid likes that they're
like and it's added protein. I'm like, this just for kids, dude,
Like this wolly lifting weights. He just wants like a
yummy chocolate waffle, Like I don't give a shit of it.
And I get I think because a lot of the
time there's like for young parents too, like if young kids,
like are they getting everything? Are they getting enough protein?
If they're only these other things. But it's like every

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time that, every time I asked that to the pediatrician,
they're like, yeah, yeah, like you're your kids eating gets fine,
they don't.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
He doesn't need a six pack yet? What the fuck
is this? Yeah, you know your kid's macros or not. Dude,
I know he is he lifting? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I just feel like we kind of I don't know.
Most people probably get I'm not nutritianist. I don't do
what you're gonna do. But I just feel, yeah, because
they're fourteen everywhere, Yeah, seeing it everywhere and it's acting
is a deterrent to me in the same way that
I got kind of the way they were trying to
shove CBD and everything five years ago. It was like
for AI now, yeah, yeah, got a Yeah, I don't

(22:53):
need my band aid to have AI in it.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, you do, Test you do.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Let me tell you why test doesn't smiles because perfect,
But my band aid is providing a lot of very
important intelligence to make fair enough about.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Angeline's parents backstory. Why does my band aid have a
take on this?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, Like I've got to feel like the protein dusting
that they're putting on the same foods that people have
been eating, Like like you said, protein popcorn, that shit's
not working right, like protein, but there is protein pop protein.
I know they protein doritos and shit like that, like

(23:35):
not actual Doritos, but like bro like foods that are
like protein chips, protein pretzels, protein like that can't be
as good as just like eating a thing of you know,
yogurt or something that like naturally has protein.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Well yeah, right, like just get the food you're supposed
to get from the food it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I also don't like when like cookies are supposed to
have vegetables in them, like I do.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Match Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't need my heroin to
have vitamin C in it. Fucking let's just get let's
get to the thing that it does.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
You know that actually the reason heroin autics have bad teeth. Scurvy, yeah,
scurvy actually.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yeah yeah yeah, So with this heroin addic scurvy, this
delicious meal had me watering at the mouth, falling out.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
The gums tender. Yeah, yep, yep, real good. I mean,
but it's also like every there's so many like like
what they call the halo effect right of like just
by association, being like, well, we're just gonna say it
has this. Like with all the probiotic sodas too, We're like, oh,
probiotics soda. I'm like, dude, give me a fucking break.
Like I get that it's a it's better like having

(24:47):
it is good or whatever, but let's not act like
me drinking my probiotic fucking orange cream sickle thing with
a bunch of sugar in it is like, well, thank
god I had those probiotics in it too.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
The only probiotics I believe in are are the ones
that like look like someone howk to lugi in it?
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, like that's gross. And again
we're getting really glowing food reviews like someone and exactly,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
But yeah, let gross things be gross things, like I
would rather just house four like supplements and then have
a coke bread. Just be a coke bread.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
We used to just drink. I remember my dad used
to was so into acids, like all these acid It
was like it's like a probiotic thing. I think it's
in yogurt and ship. But anyway, he like we had
this jug that he would be like drink aids boy,
and I'm like and it was just like it was
like the essence of yogurt. It was kind of like
it was.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
It was he could like taste that tangy yogurt.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
So it's like terrible. Like I was like, oh whatever,
it's not painful to drink. But I remember, but it
was so specialized back then. We used to be like
come on, I remember. I remember my uncle was someing
tahitianoni at the time. Got caught up in that ship,
like take your titian NONI take your little dumb supplements.
That's the scam da jore today?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Is that illegal taishan NONI.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
No, No, it's just like one of those you know,
like multi level marketing things. Right, if I start sewing it,
then you start sowing. You you got these goljiberries. You
know about goljiberries My.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Parents were briefly in the multi level marketing thing for
something called Mela Luca. Did you ever remember that melo luca?
It sounds like a cancer. Like it's like, guys, it
sucks Mela luca.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
It was eucalyptus based things like shampoo cleaners, but also
like food. I remember like eating something that tasted like eucalyptus.
I was, Oh know, this sucks.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Some guy just like had a bunch of eucalyptus and
he's like, we just need to start an MLM.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, we were just like we were some guys downstream
that we were like, you know, Dayton Ohio, just trying
to offload some Melo luca.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh gosh, shout out to all of us.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
We're on downstream with somebody in an mL We're all downstream.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
That's the real Bacon game.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, that guy was one of my downstreams. All right, test,
let's take a quick break. We're gonna come back. We're
gonna talk about some news. You two miles. We'll be
right back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
We're back.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And as we talked about on yesterday's episode, the United
States and Israel have waged an illegal attack on Iran.
You probably it's war. It's war. He's like, I don't know,
this seems fun. Let's try this hat on, try on
a war hat.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
He's even done the thing where he's like, I don't
even need the Nobel Peace Prize anymore. He's like, he
got one.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We need one for war, and yeah he got one
the way that like people trade for a Pokemon card. Yeah, exactly,
trades for a Pokemon card.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
That's how you know you earned it when you go
give me.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, I mean you know it doesn't transfer. Okay, Yeah, no,
here you go, sir. We we actually think you should
have it too. Thank you, sir for not beating me up.
Look at this. This is the shroud of Turin. They
say this is over Jesus's head in the tomb. Look
at this, I'm wearing it.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
What does that make me?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Jesus exactly?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
So I guess I am going to heaven?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
What else do you have for me?

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Actually, the highest honor you can get from.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Any it's to be Jesus Christ. So I've been deemed
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Jesus Christ. They passes from one Jesus Christ to the next.
I'm telling he right, now everybody, and we are all
tilted name exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
You already know that wasn't Jigga, that was me.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
The The reactions have been a mixed bag kind of.
I mean, it's most not as much criticism, you know,
it's more varying degrees of like how much have people
lost their minds? Like obviously Lindsey Graham was giddy with excitement,
like a like a drunken hawk only himself could be.
He was like, yeah, guess what Cuba's ex judge, And

(29:18):
you're like, oh, Jesus Christ and other.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Patient for war, don't ask me, judge.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Don't ask me, judge. But others a little more like restrained,
more just being like, guess because the president had to
do had to take action, and I'm just gonna go
there not much criticism. And these are.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
All like talking heads type people, right, not talking to
heads type talking head type people. They're not the members
of the band that talk No. No, they were David, yes,
get you. This is not my illegal war yet.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
It is. It's all of ours now, David. But yeah,
I think there's also like a number of people, mostly
those outside of Trump's good graces, that have been quite
vocal about how this is no good at all, Like
Tucker Carlson calls it disgusting and evil, but that's mostly
based on his hatred for Israel, not because he has
like any kind of proper framework for looking at how

(30:13):
geopolitical strefe operates. He's like, I'm against everything. Look, a'm
bit of a I don't even know I'm whispering this.
I'm an anti Semite, so it's shorthand for me to
just like whatever they're.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Doing to whisper hand. But I spireamed it out like yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
It was just to amplify it.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry for the people in the back.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And you know, Marjorie Taylor Green, she is still slow auditioning. Hey,
still slow auditioning for a presidential run. You know. So
she came out with her obligatory broken clock being right
occasionally statement. She said, quote, your generation, the baby boomers,
your family's able to thrive on single incomes. And now
that's practically impossible for the vast majority of American families,

(30:54):
let alone imagine being a single mother. Most of your
baby boomer friends and supporters, I'm sure cheering you the most,
but us younger generations gen X, mine, millennials, and especially
gen Z hate this fucking bullshit because we all know
that in ten years, when the baby boomers that have
been in charge of all of America's disastrous decisions are
retired or passed away, US younger generations will be left

(31:16):
with no Social Security checks because it will have gone bankrupt.
She said, we as in you and me campaigned on
America first, and this is not it not it?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, if you being you and me being she's speaking
directly to Donald Trump there.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, they're the younger generation an mgt R.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah. She's like, she's like, do I count? She's like,
I just I wonder is she a cusp J. Yeah,
it's actually JENL gen Z obviously, and the rest of
my gen's like, hold on, now you going, what are
you doing? That's something we say on this show as
a joke. Other MAGA luminaries also shared similar disappointment. Top
pro Trump Polster wrote on Rich Bears he said, Nope, sorry,

(32:01):
I don't think the regime change suddenly became good policy
or politics just because Donald Trump did it. Andrew Tait, Uh,
you know not Andrew Tate. Yeah, of the manisphere has
received you know obviously, yeah, sexual trafficking, and then left
Romania for Florida to avoid any kind of accountability. He said,

(32:21):
all caps. Nobody wants this war. A producer for Charlie
Kirk Blake Nef posted he said his right leaning friends
were expressing outrage at the attacks. He posted, if you
quote fuck this quote, this is extremely depressing quote never
voting in a national election again.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So, I mean, I think the one thing that I
think when you see polsters and other people in office
be like this is fuck. It's because they're looking at
the enthusiasm gap going into the midterms and they're presuming
there's probably gonna be a mid term election with some
light fuckery or maybe a lot of fuckery.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, but one of these.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
It might be a fuckery with some light midterm election.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah exactly. Oh yeah, a bit of a heavy bat
fucking bit election with your little election dusting.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, I might as well. One of the consultants say, quote,
this is highly demotivating. Look at the poll numbers since
the Twelve Day War. That is when the vibe shifted.
The media narrative on twenty twenty four is that this
was the podcast pro election. If you accept that it
was a podcast pro election, it is relevant that the
podcast bros hate this. And if you say that Trump
built this enormous new coalition that's going to govern for

(33:34):
a thousand years, and then you look at political independence
and they hate it more than Democrats. And the way
it's going and the way it's going to matter is
that no one's going to show up to the polls
in twenty twenty six. Republicans can legitimately lose the Senate,
which is political malpractice. He could be impeached for any
of these things. I think he's like, you should be
in peace for letting up the GOP lose their stranglehold

(33:55):
on the policy. But also you'd hope at this point
there should be more and more calls for his actual
impeachment because of gestures everything.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, just everything, yeah, true.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean the fact that and
I think that this is coming on the heels like
there are still I think some like the Margeri Taylor
Greens and like that version of Maga that is really
pissed still about the epsteine of it all. Yeah, So
I think the idea that this was going to brush
that over, I think is going to blow up in
their face, Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh yeah, every single thing you know is has been
such a misstep, like in just a head scratcher of
a decision. And I think also when you listen to
like the people that they've trotted out to the Sunday
morning shows this week and on the news to like
try and justify it, you're like, oh, man, dude, like
you don't have a single person who can speak coherently

(34:48):
on this who's like not in the cabinet, and they're
just going to a straight up lot.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I mean I think for like older millennials or like
gen X, like it almost makes it seem quaint. When
we knew we were being lied to about what the
of mass destruction, like at least they lied to us.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
They felt the need to. Whereas now it's just like, well,
what the fuck are you going to do? We're in charge,
you right, aren't going to be able to vote for
at least not an opposition party that has anything effectively
like opposition to the opposition all to this to say, so, yeah,
get fucked.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah yeah, Well, And I think that's probably why this
isn't going over as well because we've seen it happen,
and we're like, you guys were lying the whole time
last time, and now when you're like, I think people
have enough awareness to go like and you're lying again,
like you like and actually you're not even lying. You
just jumped straight into it, and then you're trying to

(35:43):
lie after the fact about why this was necessary. It's yeah,
I think this will potentially manifest in less enthusiasm at
a minimum, But again, we don't know what the endgame.
We still don't really understand the.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Real vibe killer this one, this illegal war that they're
waging where one hundred and sixty of the two hundred
dead over the weekend were a children's school, a girl,
a girl's school, real real vibey Yeah, I mean he's
Trump is just all of them, and like the hexapt

(36:16):
is such a raging alcoholic.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I don't get the sense that there's any kind of
a narrative arc here, Like I think this is a
Showtime show where like they maybe thought about the pilot
and we'll see where we are season five.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
And they're playing with such crazy stakes and it's like
God could just one fucking person and act a consequence
to these people like.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no question test no.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah. I mean this America, I mean, we're not even
learning the fucking lessons of the Second Iraq War, where
we're like that you just millions of people died for
fucking no reason because you went on this WMD lie
just to fucking you know, really line the of everybody
making arms and things like that. And now it's crazy

(37:04):
to see like the few GOP members of Congress that
have been dumb enough to go on the air to
justify this illegal war unsurprisingly seem to have the requisite
low IQ needed to try and publicly to defend this shit.
And for starters. Senator come at me, bro Mark, Wayne Mullin,
Mark Qwayne Mark. Wayne has let his subconscious fly by

(37:26):
constantly mistaking Iraq for Iran. Oh so yeah, yeah, but
again as if, as if it weren't all just so
painfully obvious, Like we have people out here just saying
just I'm just calling it Iraq again.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, but it's up to the Iraqi people. Are I'm
sorry that i Ranian people to choose their next leader.
It's up for them to rise up and.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Kill uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
He does it again. Irani and don't even sound the
same like I that's that's wild.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Let's look again, these people don't know anything. It's if
it's I R A, the fourth letter doesn't matter as
long as it's in that region of the world. This
is him again where he's just being like, yeah, Donald Trump,
he can get congressional authority after the fact to declare
war on Iraq.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Admitted he has the ability to come back, but it
doesn't fall underath the aum FF. He has the ability
to come back in declare war and ask for Congress
to declare war on a rock.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
M Wow. I mean it's been twenty years. You can
imagine he's getting the name.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And like clearly no les, no
lessons learned there at all at all. And from what
we also heard too was that Trump was saying that,
like the what happened with Maduro is kind of like
his template for this, like war now, and you're.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Like, wait what Also, the main I mean, the way
the mainstream media treated the Maduro thing, they were like
horny for it. They were like, here's the TikTok of
the episode of twenty four that brought the Duro down.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Ight, Well, guys, and by the way, any follow up
on that country that we just like still have protesters
there being killed, any follow up there, like we that
country still is phenomenally more destabilized than it was when
we went in and took Madrua out. Not that it
like anybody is under the illusion that Meduro wasn't a dictator,
but like, yeah, the fact that we just went smashed

(39:21):
up that country. Donald Trump took that money and put
it into his own personal checking account and Qatar.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean it's not mine personally.
I'm just it's over there, you know, so nobody can
mess with it, will it.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, and nobody look over there. You know, I'm not
gonna take it. I'm taking it. I took it. I've
already spent it. I've spent it all I bought. I
bought a bunch of nonsense. Then you have our representative
Anna Paulina Luna from Florida went out here with the
confidence of a white man, trying to explain how these
attacks were justified, like so in over your head, being like, well,

(39:57):
they killed thousands of Americans in America. Uh, and you're
like hold on, lady, like huh, who did And so
she was on Amin Moihideen's show on MS NOW and
coming out with this just swinging. He was like huh.
He's like, can you can you break that down for me?

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
And that didn't go so well because she wasn't expecting
a follow up. She just thought she could say something
inflammatory and then let it cook.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Can you just tell me really quickly, where have they
killed thousands of Americans in America?

Speaker 8 (40:27):
I didn't say they killed thousands of Americans in America.
I said that they have been responsible for thousands of
Americans being killed. And I think that that's easily something
that you can verify. I don't know, state sponsored terrorism
for starters. Why don't you are you serious right now
about that whole thing? I'm not going to list out
exact exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Give me jesus, are you serious right now about that
whole thing? You're about? That whole thing is so funny.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
You're debating like some kid in high school about this
right now? Are you?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's the fact that you're asking that makes me think
you're kind of a loser, Like, oh my god, I
actually want to help you out. Don't ask that that
actually makes you That's so embarrassing. Did you serious about
that whole thing?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
I know you're one of.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
My my God, Like again, if you say, are you
serious right now in the middle of someone asking you
for to clarify your stance on something.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Like evidence behind the thing that you just said, that
you've lost, You've lost the argument.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
And what sucks is that they're letting people like this
just blurt shit out like this to try and manufacture
more consent for for all we can tell is again
completely unnecessary and really benefits the goals of Benjamin Nett
and Yahoo more than anything, because he would love to
be like, yeah, dude, I can get this like drunken

(41:46):
attack dog in the form of America to just like
go at people if I just orient it in the
right direction.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
One of the things that I remember having to deal
with during the Iraq War, what you know, being like
this is bad, Like they're just doing this, They're going
forward with this without any justification, and like a thing
that you used to have to deal with is people
being like, well, do you know all of the intelligence
that these military leaders who go on CNN No, no,

(42:16):
So like you shut the fuck up, you don't know everything.
And it was like a little hard it was it
was more you had to just be like, well no,
just look at the overall thing, like they said they
wanted to do this before nine to eleven, and like
you had to like use a lot of circumstantial shit.
I saw someone try and use that argument this weekend
on I think it was on Twitter, where like somebody

(42:36):
was just like, I think Donald Trump and his military
leaders no more. And it's like you can take a
quote from them last week that contradicts their decision to
do that, like they don't. You don't have the luxury
of that of that argument anymore. Pro war people like
this is the most evidently half asked, hurried distraction attempt

(42:59):
of all time.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, and it's like if anything, they do know, Pete
Hegseth is going to be texting the editor of The
Atlantic like they're showing their whole ass.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah right right right, yeah exactly. Oh yeah, well, well
we'll see what happens. He just Trump just gave out
like a I think Congressional Medal of Honor to someone
just now and he had like a weird ass like
sore on his neck. It's just like.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
God, people, he's got a vampire bye rope burn on
his neck click, Wow, it looks I don't know, it's
it's just so I don't even Again, there's so many
question marks, But I think the biggest one too is
sort of like there this clearly is to serve a

(43:45):
purpose for.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Donald Trump, and whether that's like the sort of the
easy thing is like, well, no one's gonna talk about
the Epstein files. It's like, well, yeah, that could be
part of it. But there's also like there's a bloodlust
that this country just suffers from when it comes to
like terrifying people across the But then the other part is,
but for him specifically, is it really about the mid terms?
Because it's like, if you're doing something that everyone's going

(44:08):
this is gonna fuck up your chances in a fair
one to get to get people re elected. If that's
there's no need to consider that, then like I'm having
I think to think, like what are they looking to
do here to try and say, well, this is why
we needed a little extra dash of fuckery with our elections?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, so chaos create chaos, so there's less of a
chance of a real fair election.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah. Well, I think it's also like not for nothing
that he's getting all these bribes visa via his crypto
from all these foreign entities. So any foreign policy decision
he's making has been I think we can assume at
least partially bought and paid for through or whatever.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, for sure. Oh, which I just looked. I don't
know if you checked the box office for Milania Jack
not even not even on the charts. So it's not
even the top thirty eight things in a theater. You
have to be in the top I believe thirty eight
for them to even be like, oh yeah, we've got
some numbers on that it's not even there. Which okay,

(45:11):
you hate to see. You hate to see because I
was I was trying to prove everyone wrong. He said
this was just a synthetic campaign.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Wasn't organic? Ugh shit? Yeah yeah, damn Malania coin is down. Also,
the fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (45:23):
That American hero just can't win?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Nothing makes sense anymore. God.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, it's just like I think the other interesting like
or not an interesting part. It's like it's it's so
trumpy too, and that he also is so so painfully
aware of the optics around this, like he doesn't want
people to think he's doing like a long like this
is gonna be a forever war, because he's been saying
he's like it's gonna be quick, like he told Axios

(45:52):
it could end in two or three days, he told
The New York Times four to five weeks.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
He's just like going up and up, like every hour.
He's like, Okay, we got a couple of years, but
you know, Vietnam took a couple of years to win, Sir,
I think we need to talk about what actually I.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Mean, that's what's like, That's what's so freaky is that
like he doesn't even like they don't I don't no,
I don't think they know. They don't know. They really
were just like, I don't know, we got roped into this.
Let's do a drive by on Iran. Maybe like it
creates a power vacuum that doesn't become worse somehow, Like
that's a lot of analysts are like, man that like,

(46:31):
first of all, the way the Iranian government is set up,
it's like they they're they're meant to absorb these kinds
of like leadership losses to be able to keep functioning
because they know that's what countries like the United States
and Israel trying to do. So when you're doing that,
you don't have a follow up plan. Then you're like, well,
and then and then what right, what exactly happens? I think.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Bomb put it, put it draw a tunnel on the
on the boulder. Yeah, but I think it really like
the simple issue of Trump's cognitive function, I think really
kind of is at the nut of all of this
and why, Like it's not just something that should be
brushed off or like, I don't even think it's particularly funny.
It's like the fact that he can't form a cogent
thought or speak in terms of any kind of coherent

(47:20):
narrative thread I think is really evident in these kind
of decisions, and it's terrifying. I truly think this. This
is my opinion, but I think this is a man
who poops his pants, okay, and barely has object permanence. Really,
I mean, so that's what that's. I think we're trying
to impose meaning on something that I don't think has
meaning or order to it.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Sure, yeah, yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
I mean, like I think there's like these short term
things where he's like, well, you know, like the Saudis
will buy more arms from us, because they're also asking
that we do this, and we're like, oh, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
And also just so you know, we're lying to you
because that Maduro thing.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Was not a success by any stretch of the imagine.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
But that actually went really well, boss, And now he's
telling people, he's like, well, that went so well that
we're going to just keep going. And I think yeah,
to that end, we were talking about this, if you right,
maybe last week or the week before about his information
bubble is one of the most terrifying things about this
because you know, people are feeding him bullshit all the time, like, no, dude,
fucking Venistoa is such a success dog everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
No One's gonna stop us, dude. And I've actually seen
the real pulling and it says that I'm sick. Yeah,
the best president of all time. They love me exact seeing.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Anything like it, I know, well, I think the Vanity
Fair I think it was the profile that did all
they did, a profile like him and all his cabinet members.
I believe it was in that article where they talked
about how there's a woman in his office that he
refers to as quote AI because when he needs something googled,
she will go google it, print out the Google search
results and bring them to him. I mean that is

(48:55):
truly the level of critical thought and research that are present.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Jack operation, right, right, right, Yeah, everything's outsourced, you know,
like just every single function of the presidency. And then
I think that's what makes it scary is because then
you have people like Stephen Miller or Pete Hagstath. He's like,
and I get to do what I want with this
fucking thing that was going to cost people lives.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
We'll come back. We'll talk about Netflix, Warner Brothers, Paramount,
and Jim Carrey's new face. We'll be ready, and we're back.
We're back, And I mean people probably saw the Netflix update,

(49:44):
so I don't know how deep we need to go
on this, but basically last week covered this story. It
seemed like Netflix was definitely going to buy Warner Brothers
and basically kill theatrical movie going. And then Paramount came in.
Paramount being David Ellison, billionaire's son who is in Trump's

(50:06):
good graces, came through and is like, I want to
buy that one too, and it was like, well, that
seems like it should be financially impossible because there are
all these things like if the Netflix DL fell apart,
somebody would have to pay Netflix two point eight billion
dollars and he's just like, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I'm going to pay that. That's fine. Like what Paramount
Skydance is going to pay that to? Just just like that?
Huh yeah, just like that. So this thing that seemed
like it was going to kill the film industry might
kill the entertainment industry in a whole new way because
Paramount Skydance is basically getting a fucking monopoly over US media.

(50:49):
They would Now you know, this is the guy who
took over CBS and was like, Barry Weiss, you are
now the head of CBS News and like watching that
just be running to the ground, And now he's going
to be taking over CNN, HBO, all of these things,
same guy, same general ideas, And again it does feel

(51:09):
similar to these people just being like, well, we can
do whatever we want. Sarrando's Ted Sarandos, the head of Netflix,
like met with Trump and then immediately pulled out of
the deal. So it's basically he was just Trump like, yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna make it so they can do
whatever they want. So yeah, get the fuck out of here, right,
so they did.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Hey, great time. I love the guilded age that we're
in again. Yeah, all this shit going.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
On, at least the art is good and not at
all just av nothing.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, I'm curious to see. I mean like I'm really wondering,
like what this does. Like it's obviously one thing that
to own it and control it. And sure they're like
just as legacy media companies, like they'll exist, but I'm wondering,
like what happens to its actual growth because as more
and more people would become aware of it, like you
have people are like what the fuck is going on?

(52:04):
I think most people won't realize obviously, but I feel
like there's also still like you see more and more
write ups at least like in the media or like
in the press about like like what the fuck is
all this consolidation actually gonna mean for them as even
like a business, right, because I'm wondering, like if no
one wants to watch anything that's on CBS aside from

(52:26):
like the few million that love Donald Trump unconditionally, like
they are just watching Fox News, so right, Yeah, I'm
curious like what their projections are, like do they build
in like what the attrition rate would be for people
if they're like, I'm not fucking with this anymore, if
this if it's really just like this, and are you
if you're like a savvy media tycoon, or you're like,

(52:48):
we need to create like a fucking release valve for
people to be like, all right, I'm turning my back
on these other ones because they've been bought by an oligarch.
How about this one via less evil oligarcher shit. But
I'm just curious, like how they're looking at it because
they have I'd imagine people like, dude, this is so
bad for their brand. Yeah, there are people like rubbing
their mits on some level. I don't know how or

(53:10):
what that looks like, but because like my first thing
is like, dude, this can't be good in the long
term by like losing eroding trust with viewers.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
I think they don't talk to a lot of normal people,
Like they don't talk to a lot of people who
aren't in a C suite at a company or like
on the board of a company. I think that is
partially and I think partially they're probably just being like,
you can get a lot of value right now via corruption,
and like we're the only people who have the Trump
administration completely backing us, and so we can just like

(53:41):
come in, you know, do a smash and grab during
this administration, get all these properties underneath us, and then
maybe build these things back up eventually. But it's like,
but at least a yeah, this is a big opportunity
because there's never been this much like open you know,
kleptocracy happening.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah, and it feels like the columnation or almost like
the macro version of what I feel like has been
happening in media for a long time. I think, you know,
I've definitely worked at a lot of places that have
been bought by some venture capitalist fun where they then
fire all the creative and it's like, well, cool, like
that's what made this a valuable company was the people
coming up with the ideas like have fun with your
parcel or whatever. So it kind of feels like this

(54:22):
is a mindset that they're kind of familiar with, and
maybe even though it's on such a big scale, I
think there's a level of hubris that that they're exhibiting
just from pillaging and grabbing other smaller companies for so long, because.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, from their perspective, perspective, it does feel like, well,
if I certainly have my hands on the means of
creating meaning and news for people, then I can just
like whole cloth recreate reality in whatever way I see fit. Yeah,
and it's that simple. When I'm like it, I mean,
it is and it isn't. I feel like it is
simple and that like most people are going to turn

(54:57):
on their TVs not really think of who is behind
what you're seeing and why they're saying what they're saying
in the way they are And yeah, I don't know,
it's it's such a fucking grim period too.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, just it does feel similar to the Trump because
that is the question that I keep having, is like,
how do they think they're going to get away with this?
Like they have a consumer facing business. How do they
think that like people are going to be cool with
this in the long run. And it's the same question
that you know, I'm asking about the Trump administration. How
do they think they're going to get away with like

(55:32):
what they're doing any wrong? And it is that thing,
you know, the thesis of hypernormalization documentary and just this
idea that the people in power can get away with
anything they've like created this system that's completely insulated, so
it doesn't matter like it's a money making machine for them,

(55:53):
and it doesn't really there's no functional way within the
current system to like them to see consequences.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, I mean, I wonder that's why we need daily's,
you know. I mean I think this. I think we
will see like independent media rise more as this happens,
at least in my most optimistic.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I mean definitely. Well, a lot of the journalists who
have left and started their own thing have been like, oh,
it's I've actually been surprised that I've been somewhat able
to be successful after leaving like a Washington Post or
a New York Times and just like off of sub
stack subscriptions and other kind of things.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
So yeah, I mean i'd be curious. I bett you, HEATHERD.
Cox Richardson has at least as big of a readership
as WAPO at this point. You know, I think there
is a big appetite for that kind of media. Like
there are critical people out here, you know. So I
think that we're not just going to go away just
because this just becomes like America Donald corpse Bs Incorporated
or whatever. So whether they react to that and want

(56:52):
to make money off of us or not, I guess
as their prerogative.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
But yeah, and I think that's why I like, yeah,
we're kind of have to everyone who's listening. You're gonna
have to kind of be the annoying person that tells
people like what the fuck they're looking at? Like when
you're watching, like just so you know, can I just
show you like this one family is running like eighty
percent of what you're looking at right now, and it
doesn't and right now the effects aren't there. But I know,

(57:16):
like I feel like on John Oliver, he was even
he mentioned it, I think last night about this potential
Ellison takeover where it's like, guys like this could change
a lot of shit because it's about to go through
a filter of like what is acceptable discussion and debate
on television, you know, based on yeah, all the Dark's wishes.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I don't think that people that aren't in media are
fully I think, well, because how could they be, because
they're doing that flood the zone thing where like there's
just so much scary stuff going on. So it's like
media can be feel kind of like dry or maybe
it's not as important of an issue as some of
these are the really pressing things that are happening. But
I have like normy friends who weren't who only recently
became aware of the Barry Weiss thing, And to me

(57:59):
that was so obvious, like what was happening at sixteen
minutes just in the content that was coming out from there.
But informed people are not totally this is I don't
think this is like top of mind for a lot
of people unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Sure, sure, because I think at the even if they change,
I think what happens is like you you may be
able to change the sort of messenger for these things,
but at the end of the day, like you're still
trying to appeal to people's sense of identity and values,
and like a lot of that's that's a lot harder
to change because I even see it with like older
family members where like they catch weird shit on CNN,
like why are they talking like this, like it's crazy,

(58:34):
it sounds awful now, And I'm like, well, yeah, it's
because so and so and They're like oh right, right, right.
So they people do sense something is off when they're
like suddenly hearing like a completely like antithetical worldview being
like normalized on a show. But again I think a
lot like most people just don't have the time or
bandwidth to be like, Okay, now I need to really

(58:55):
check in on my media literacy.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
All right, so we gotta stop talking about this shit
because we do have an w and story to get too.
Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, pop culture Detective test Parker. Oh sorry,
So Jim Carrey just received the Lifetime Achievement Award at
this uh saves our awards in Paris and Polly And No,
I didn't just turn into a different person. Even though
I did say Paris like a like a French person.

(59:20):
Some people think that wasn't really Jim Carrey. He gave
the speech in French. First of all, I want.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
To hear this because I heard this and now I
need to hear it.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Presco medio.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Jim Carrey made are.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Can't be him? Yeah, that guy was speaking French.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
That guy was speaking French.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeptly in a very good Jim Carrey voice.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
I know.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I don't get the people that are like this wasn't
his voice like that? That's literally Jim Carrey's voice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
It's a couple things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Probably, you know. It's because like it's such a like
patriarchical society that like if a man's appearance changes, it's like, oh,
I had some work done. It's that's a fucking clone, dude,
what the fuck man? He's like, what did he fucking
got work done? Like, what are you say? He looks

(01:00:25):
like that because of plastic surgery, that's what you're looking at.
Because every because even I was a little bit like, well,
what was the speech like? And I saw a couple
of screen caps of him, like that's very that's his expression,
that's his face. Yeah, and everything looks like like him.
But also just like maybe it's so American, like and
he's speaking France.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Nah, but this black and white are their subtitles exactly. Yeah,
this just looks like Jim Carrey.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
And especially if it does look a lot like there
are some pictures that make it look more different, but
like watching him in motion, it's like, oh, it's Jim Carrey.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
He just had a little work done.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
And I have lived in Los Angeles long enough I know,
like what work you know, I can reverse engineer. He
had a blap, he had like a little bit of
a face lift, he had some filler put into his cheeks.
I mean it's like yeah, yeah, you can reverse engineering.
It's a blap is where they take out part of
your eyelid so that your eyes like more awake.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Oh, shout out the black bees.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Somebody stop me, Yeah, somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
A lot of people were saying somebody should have stopped
him on the internet, but like, yeah, it's it's it's
a very his eyes. Like the one thing I did
see was his like his eye color seemed different. But again,
once you see like the whole clips of it, you're like, yeah, dude,
it's just this guy. Got this guy work done.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
He's got contacts, contact miles. I've been telling you, contacts
are coming back. That's why my eyes, That's why this
eye is an eight ball dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
But yeah, I mean I just I feel like, oh yeah, yeah,
just this Celeri celebrit pretty uh fears mortality and appearance
and has gone under the knife, it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Also, like cloning rumors are pretty they kind of pop
back up in pop culture, Like there was one about
Avril Levine that's still been pretty persistent. Oh yeah, there's
a people there's a huge section of the Internet that
thinks to Avril Lavine is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Now that I believe, no sleeves here test what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
First of all, she stopped wearing Converse with the real
Avril Evince.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
It's like shit like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Maybe she'd she realized she was fucking forty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I just hear the AI voice on Instagram explaining this
to me, Like, yeah, she had she stopped wearing grown.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Converse Chuck Taylor All Stars.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
She was known for her a punk exactly. No, that's
literally what it is. And then yeah, it'll be like
maybe Avril got a little work done, or she did
her hair a little bit differently, or also, like all
of us just kind of look different in different lighting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
But I don't know, like the people in Superman when
like he puts on glasses and parts his hair on
the other side were just like different. Guy, that's can't
be the same guy I was looking a few seconds ago.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Yeah, no, fucking way, it's him. It's just it's wild
how it just had a life of its own. It's
just so odd too that like this one thing kicked
off like a thousand conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah, well, you know he was in Truman Show guys,
so like what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Like that was like he was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
More sending his messages about our fake reality already in
the nineties. You know, Andy Kaufman was doing stuff like
that too. He was an Andy Kaufman guy. Andy Conan.
On his own death, he became Andy Kaufman. Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
The mask you what you would wear if you're faking
being someone you We.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
All wear masks metaphorically speaking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, she'll never forget for pet detective, though, he made
the noble profession of pet detection into a goddamn laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Go oh my god, man, it takes years to become
a good pet detective.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
He is either dumb or dumber. It's never really revealed
in the movie, but that is the kind of ideas
that these people are trafficking in are dumb ideas. It's
all been laid out there for us people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
It's yeah, it's funny too. Yeah. Good well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Jim Carrey just I think kind of famously doesn't like
the public eye, Like he's sort of reclusive. I think
that's why he's not acting much anymore. And so if
there's something kind of funny to me about, like the
one time he tries to step a toe out into
the real world, they're just like clone, Clone, you look
so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be tough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I mean, it's just it's funny to think, like, yeah,
for a thing that's like a lifetime Achievement award, and
his fucking whole family's there. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is a fucking stand in clone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Guys going down one by one to his family members,
yanking on their hair, trying to pull their wig off.
Yeah yeah. And I mean our writer Jam pointed out,
this is a This is a man who's now in
his sixties whose entire stand up act was just treating
his face as if it were silly putty that he

(01:05:21):
bought at a yard sale, Like he stretched it in
so many fucked up directions.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Hey I do that with store bots. Still silly puddy too, right,
Just you don't only the second from a yard sale.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Fuck yeah, and someone else's newspaper in there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
This might be hanging loose on his skull where for
a little bit of work.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
So yeah, I remember there's one I think it was
like Vanity Fair maybe Esquire magazine he did where he
put a bunch of clothing pins on his like face
all the way around and was just like everyone was like,
holy sh I remember trying to do that as a kid.
It hurt so fucking bad. I started crying and my

(01:06:04):
mom caught me, and then it was like it stuck
and it didn't work out well. But the man's got
the rubber face.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
He's got the rubber face he is. I said that,
Like I realized at one point, I think it was
like eighth grade that all my funniest friends were just
doing Jim Carrey impressions the whole time. Like that was
it. It was like no sense of humor of our own
people being like, let.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Me show you something. It was it was bad John
who could do it the best? Because that's what I
was the same way, like being a funny boy in
like nineteen ninety four was how good could you do
a Jim carrying person? That was it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
How elastic is your own face?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
You should you dry your teeth off so you get
your lip to stick, you know what I mean. There's
a whole method you had to do to get fire
Marshall build.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
On or you could talk with your butt you easy, easy, easy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yeah, I'd like to ask you a few questions. Teachers
hated it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Easy quick work tests. Such a such a pleasure having
you on the podcast where can people find you? Follow you,
hear you all that good stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Yeah, on all my socials, I'm Testified Barker with two
s's again. My podcast is Pop Mystery Pod if you
want to, I delve into different mysteries every week. And
then of course Lady to Lady or yes, we were
doing a watch along to Dawson's Creek. I think that'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, amazing. Is there a work a media you've been enjoying? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Yes, this was a tweet that I really enjoyed. It's
from at Chin Chin Rights and it says, due to
personal reasons, I love a baked potato and it just
spoke with me. I I just connected with it on
like a spiritual because I do feel like I if
I'm eating a baked potato, it is often kind of alone. Yeah,

(01:07:50):
I love a solitary baked potatoes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
That is true. It is weird. I I oh my god,
I think the last time I had a bake potatoes
by myself. Also see, I think it's because the way
I have the fixings, the way I get there, I
kind of need that to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Be all fixing fix and related food. They're all it's too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Many fixings for friends Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I went through through a period where I was just
putting different, like doing different slow cooker meals, like you know,
barbecue chicken or like a chili or something like that.
And then every day for dinner that week, I would
just put that on a baked potato with like some
cheese on top of it. It was so good. It
was like this is this is like Irish pizza, you know,

(01:08:36):
just like that sounds luxurious but also nice. Well, yeah, Miles,
where can people find you as their working media you've
been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Yes, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. I'm talking
about ninety day Fiance on four to twenty Day Fiance
with Sophia Alexandra, and then I also talk about soccer,
me favorite sport with Jamela Johnson and Chris Martin.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
We need to have a Leprechaun Icons episode, you know,
because the other day we're talking about hats. I was like, bro,
Leprechawn got a hat, bro And that's that's the thing
that's flat ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
When is uh? When is St. Patty's Day?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
It's coming up March sevent We missed it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
If you have emergency recording, emergency recording now test go
what do you know about the leprechauns.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Go go go, Go go go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I remember the one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Leprechaun in the hood.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Uh, there's Leprechawn three. When he said a friend with
weed is a friend with indeed, Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You know all there is to know about Irish people there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
It is they love weed. If I know one thing
you're thinking of, choice weed big time. A post I
like is from rask at rax King is Dead dot
beast guide on social and posted because there's a lot
of like this is okay, there's a couple. This one
is at Kashana dot best guy dot dot blacks dot
app quote posting like an NBC News thing says it

(01:10:03):
was supposed to be a romantic getaway for Sarah Metti
and her husband, a warm winter break in Dubai, away
from their three young children to celebrate their twentieth anniversary,
but now they are stranded in the region. Uh and
she posted rest in peace to hundreds of Iranians and
one American vacation Yeah. Curious at Raskingsdad dot be Skuy's
also posted lo l at the tourists in Dubai, being like,

(01:10:25):
what do you mean I took my vacation at the
Nieman Marcus that kills you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Uh. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore
O Brian Blue Skyjack ob the number one Instagram Jack Underscore,
Oh underscore Brian. Uh. I've just been watching Pluribus. I
knocked out a couple Pluribi this weekend, okay, and been
enjoying that shut out. Vince Gilligan, did you get past
the the Wow? Okay, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
We're four in Oh at this point, I stalled out
in the second one. I'm gonna, I got I got
a keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Yeah. It's an interesting one because it does feel like
you're stuck inside a single episode of the Twilight Zone.
But it is that they do take it in interesting directions.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
So okay, is it confusing?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Okay, no, not right, not very straightforward, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
People like I heard people like early reviews for it
that like really sent me off in a wrong the
wrong direction. Like I heard someone say it's like it's
almost like a black box theater experiment, or that it's
like a very experimental and it just feels like a
really interesting thought experiment like it where they took a whole, yeah,

(01:11:36):
a whole what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
If and took it an interesting direction.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at
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got this like these vintage synths on it and just
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(01:12:52):
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