November 21, 2024 • 68 mins
In episode 1780, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, comedian, and co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Sexual Predation Apparently A Required Skill To Be In Trump’s Cabinet, Return Of The Matt (Whitaker aka DICK TOILET), Attacking Neoliberalism’s Well Earned Complexity Problem, The Reason Behind The Recent Rash Of Cheese Heists and more!
- Trump Pick Linda McMahon Is Facing Her Own Sex Scandal
- Attacking Neoliberalism’s Well Earned Complexity Problem
- The Reason Behind The Recent Rash Of Cheese Heists
- Cheesemakers in shock as £300,000 of produce stolen in sophisticated scam
- Moscow that got the cream? 'Grate cheese robbery' mystery whirls with Russia now suspected after scammers pilfered 22 tonnes from dairy
- Man attempts to steal thousands of dollars in cheese from North Van Whole Foods
- Thieves strike in the Netherlands with heist of $22,000 — in cheese
- Why so many cheese heists? As B.C. cops foil another, here's why cheese is so valuable
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I don't watch that ship. Should I watch the young Turks?
It sounds like I should. You don't mean to it's
I like the old Turks personally.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I like the mechanical Turks. That is just straight up
regular ass Ottoman Empire. Hell yeah, I love Gallipoli. I'm out.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's that's uh. You won the name, that tune of
historical references and Alexander the Great, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I remember what my mom was like, you gotta watch Gallipoli,
Like when I was fucking eight.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Didn't you didn't they make you watch that ship in school?
I feel like I had to watch it in school.
Oh you had to watch the Gli. Yeah, I did
not watch it in school. That was my mom being like,
check out Gallipoli.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's that's good. That's a good ass mom, right there.
I mean like when you're when you're born in fucking
a rubble of World War two Japan, bro, you need
there's no such thing as being precious. Motherfucker. I remember
when I watched Bambi and I fucking cried and ship.
She was like, get over that ship, bro.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I'm a that's right, soft ass, little everything so scary?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Why is everything so scary. She was channeling.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
She was talking to me like America, like she was
Vince Staples being like, yeah, he's coming for you. You
are a bitch. Oh thanks mom, Okay, it could be
James Baldwin. I'm trying to be tough.
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That's right. It's Thursday, November twenty first, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Hey, it's a National Rural Health Day. Shout out two
of those very very delicate health systems we have in
rural America. National Gingerbread Cookie Day, National Red Mitten Day.
Shut Up's best for the Canadians out there, I believe
based on just the image of a maple leaf on
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my favorite Thanksgiving food And the Great American Smokeout which
isn't the thing that I would be going to. It's
actually about smoking cessation. But hey, smokay, get how you live? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is it a Great American cessation via the old school
way of getting people not smoked by making them smoke
like an entire pack in one sitting.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes. Basically it says this is an annual social engineering
event woo that sounds good to encourage Americans to top
tobacco smoking and basically challenges smokers to quit cigarettes for
twenty four hours with the hopes that this decision will
continue forever.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, well they gave it the wrong name, the Great
Smokeout Day.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It just makes me want to go smoke. Well, yeah, brother,
about to go get a pack of fucking Optimos or
some shit.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah smoking lab optimost. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien
aka when you got a brainworm up inside your skull
that says double down on the numb back that one
courtesy lesson zero on the Discord, and I'm thrilled to
(04:20):
be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Grass Miles Gray AKA parties.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Two motherfuckers don't care about you trying to keep up
status quose they got there's Finnis slammed the door closed off.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Of the money. Yes, their morals blow. Okay, shout out
Helsion Salad, who did a whole fucking andre verse to
the Elevator's outcast track. I just hit the chorus, but
I've looked the Zech gang ever since. The more people
who joined the Discord, the fucking amount of Aka's in
there is blinding, and We're appreciated because I'm dipping into scissors.
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Speaker 1 (05:11):
Uh, one of these days, once you get your wind up,
you gotta you gotta, I gotta get to get ready,
get that v O two max up. Well, Miles were
thrilled to be joined in our third teapot. One of
our favorite guests on the show, one of the very
faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV
writer you know from thes This Racist podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, it's Andrew gonna walk you through my thought process
on a failed a k A.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, which is now that now that we are in
a Trump's America, I was looking to rewrite the courtesy
of the Red, White and Blue by Toby Keith. Oh wow,
I got too depressed. I don't even know how that
one goes. I know totally.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's the one about putting a putting a boot in
Osama bin Laden's ass.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's a it's a it's.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
A throwback, okay, but god, it must have been so
mad when Obama, when ben Laden got killed under the Obamas. Yeah,
that must have been what like gave him whatever killed him?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's that's my every time I leave karaoke, I always
tell myself, man, you don't be really funny.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If I learned that the Red White and Blue song
and I Never do.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You might be might be pretty popular in LA these days.
We were saying before we started recording, We're seeing the
the stray mega hat popping.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, I don't even know. There were two Trump flags
in my neighborhood in Echo Park, Yeah, everywhere, which does
over index for young shitheads. So you know, yeah, gen
zad you knew gen Z was bad? Yeah, Jense's bad.
(06:59):
Damn we're right.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The wrong? Is it the system? Who knows? Who knows?
That would be just these kids these days, I think
they're right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, Andrew, how are you doing? This is the first
time coming on since the election?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right, pretty yeah, real good.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean, I will Here's one thing I will say
is I'm probably I'm guessing everyone you have on has
to do a little check in. And I've been having
a lot of conversations. The thing that has helped me,
which is not a real helpful thing, is that everything
you thought, everything you think is gonna be bad and
it will be bad, is already happening.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Like literally everything you just I'd say, you just don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
About it, like you know, it was just very like odd,
Like I had a conversation with my friend, a friend
who's like one of the very like, you know, cable
news junkie type you know, very like MSNBC type person
and and just the list of things they were very
upset about. I was kind of biting my tongue, but
(08:07):
I was just like, I'm not saying it's not going
to be worse, but.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
All of these things are happening now, right, Yeah, I was.
I think it was maybe last week. I was just saying, like,
all of these things, when they were problems for like
marginalized groups, were just things that were happening. And now
that the spotlight had been widened to touch more, just
you know, people who didn't see themselves as being marginalized
are now like these are fucking problems, And yeah, I
(08:35):
hope it can serve as some kind of a moment
to inspire people to inspect their values a little bit further,
because yeah, it's what I will also say, while things
are going to be bad, all this shit is unbelievably
out of your control, and there was plenty of shit
within your control that you can do. I've been putting
(08:57):
more time, I've been slacking a little bit on the
mutually group that I try to help out with here
in LA. But I've said this on many podcasts already,
Like everything you think every your personal thing, the thing
you're most worried about. Even in our case in liberal
ass southern California, liberal and quotes, we went ahead and
(09:17):
didn't outlaw slavery, for instance. So you know, everything bad
that you're worried about is happening now and you can
do something about it at least on a personal level
to one or two or whatever people, And you should
do that now. Yeah, I'm sort of coalescing around this
idea of for a lot of the folks who don't
(09:39):
normally don't do much or just like fret this is
this is like idea that like, like, you know, one
structure that I have found to be like very damaging
to society has been Christianity as it's comprised in America
in twenty twenty four. And one thing that organized religion
does is ask fucking ten percent out of all of
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its members. And I know money might not be an option,
but consider fucking using ten percent of your work time.
So for most people like forty four four sorry four
hours a week to fucking do something. Yeah, that's that's
my sort of pitch.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Think of it as a tithe because you know, those
fuckers do it reflectively.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So I can get. Yeah, exactly, how does that get
me to lambo? Yeah, so y'all by this merch that
we're selling. Thank you, you know, spend about ten percent
of your income on that. But no, it is true,
like you can any just again, when we had Margaret on,
just think about how you can get your toe in.
But get your toe just get your dip it, just
(10:39):
dip it a little bit and then you just get
a little bit more comfortable and then next thing you know,
you'll be you'll be much more comfortable with it all.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So anyway, and since since I since I pitched this,
I'm going to go right into my underrated because this
has been a part and parcel thing that has been happening,
which is while trying to and this is said with
all the love that is available. One part of dipping
your toe into things like mutual aid, things like local
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community is at the end of the day, you're going
to be hanging out with a lot of people that
you find annoying, but it doesn't make them bad.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, So hanging out with people you find annoying.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, because my underrated is you know, on the balance,
at least they're fucking not Nazis.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And they're doing shit and you know, sort of like
it or not. Those folks are going to be the
folks that are motivated and can and have experience and
and you know, yes they can. You know, some folks
sometimes are a little annoying, but that's okay. I think
we all should get better at fucking being okay with
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annoying people.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Being around people who are annoying evil.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
When the alternative is evil, you got to he with annoying.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's a good underrated. All right,
we're that that is your underrated and we're going to
get to know you a little bit better in the
moment by get your search history and overrated. But first,
a couple of things we're going to be talking about.
We're going to be looking at the one thing that
we can consistently say about Trump's cabinet is that sexual
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predation seems to be a required skill. So we'll talk
about that. We'll talk about just like the evolving kind
of defense, the antibodies coming to the defense of neoliberalism
in the aftermath of the election, and just that I
feel like complexity and then being like, well, you know,
(12:42):
we have all these like super complex solutions that are
market based that tie people to incentivized structure, Like those
sorts of things need to stop, need to be attacked dismantled.
But yeah, there's been there's been, like some very annoying
beds that I want to talk about. So we'll talk
(13:02):
about that. We might get to some cheese heists that
are happening, all of that plenty more. But first, Andrew,
in addition to asking you something he thinks underrated, we
do like to ask what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
All right, this is this is the last I mean,
this is obviously just the YouTube algorithm finally honing in
on who the fuck I am.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They captured you I searched for.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So basically I would I would consider myself a enthusiastic
amateur as far as eating too much goes. And YouTube
recently really started serving me up people doing food challenge
type things. Oh yeah, yeah, and so I did search
for food challenges Los Angeles. So I wanted to get
out a lay of the land and just just.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Try to figure out I was.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I was having conversation with the friend the other day
and I was kind of like going over the things
that I think I'm genuinely world class, and I feel
like there was a time where I was like, I'm
a world class eater.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, and I think that time has passed.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
But you know, sometimes the old dog needs to come
out for another blaze of glory.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know if I'm going to try it, but
I'm really thinking about it for another glory. One last job.
I'm really thinking about it, which like such a bad idea.
What do you think? What do you think you can
really put down? I I think kind of anything.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like one of those people that, like,
you know, hot food, like spicy. Oh, I guess I
probably would prefer Yeah, I would prefer not to have
an element of I would prefer volume or speed right
over a spice tolerance because that that has that has
diminished quicker than my capacity to just fucking throw it down.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They keep like a Heimlich person on hand for like
the speed and volume challenge.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I think they just have like a mouth adapter for
like a shop back yeah mouth and just fucking fire inside.
I the the uh the YouTube videos I've seen of
professionals who go around doing this does seem to indicate
that there's a significant amount of legal indemnity. You have
to grant the restaurant before they allow you to try this.
(15:20):
There's always a signing of some kind of agreement. Even
eating pancakes. They're like, no, motherfucker, because this is this
is a bad idea. Yeah, I guess I just feel
like I could, uh I can I'm you know again,
this is I think this is exactly like the armchair
version of like I could beat Serena Williams right plane. Yeah,
(15:42):
so I'm sure I couldn't actually, but I genuinely like
of the like physical anomalies that exist in the world,
you know, physical feats. Yeah, yeah, I think the one
that I am closest to, you know, becoming any kind
of high level would be competitive eating. Dude, I want
to go. Whatever you're tell me when you go try
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one of these, I want to go. I want to
see can you are?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You do you have to pay for half?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
If you fuck up? I want to see and.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Because you spend you have the same skill or you're
I like.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
To watch, motherfucker want Yeah, yeah, baby, just watch I
hit I hit my microphone pantomiming eating.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Eating All right, Donald Trump, could you eat like would
you could you eat three whole Shooter sandwiches a recipe
that you put me onto, like.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, Shooter sandwiches once again, whole loaf of country bread,
two steaks, and I that's all the volume of it.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Branson served with Branston pick All on the side. I
think three.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I think I would have a ton of trouble with
I think, like in a like I'm trying to win something, capassidy,
I could do two all right.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Right, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Four steaks that's a lot like sixty that's like sixty
ounces of and two loaves of bread. I guess it's
well the you know the bread is hollowed out.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
In the middle. Yeah, so maybe one loaf of bread, oops,
all crusted. Okay, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk. Yeah,
I genuinely think I could do it, Okay, I don't
think I would like be happy about it, and I
think I would.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
I would have to.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do all the training, like just like two days prior,
like having like just fucking gallons of water, right and whatnot?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Is that what they do to train for it to
stretch the tummy out the tom tom. I can drink
things extremely fast, but I don't drink alcohol anymore, so
like chugging contests are kind of out the window. But yeah,
when we had Margaret Killjoy on, she was saying, like,
you know, figure out the thing you're good at, and
then you know, find a way to help people with that.
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And I've been breaking my brain trying to be like,
how can I with the speed with which I can
down a twelve pack of Mountain Dew, how can I
help the world? And no takers so far.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Are I'm not yet?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So okay, So Jessica is a doctor an engineer. Jack, Okay,
you wrote down you love yellow number five food?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Guys like, did drink it? Until changes the color of
my veins?
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yeah? My arms? Bro?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh my god, n I got bro. I call it
the sparkle blow.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I look like Edward from a Twilight every time I'm done,
because I'm just sparkling.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's it's like Twilight, but you change the color grading
on your TV and it's sort of.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like, yeah, did you put a magnet by it? Maybe
I just I can't tell what's happening here. No, I'm
just pretty sure. I mean again, I'm not one hundred percent,
which is why I looked up I you know, once
it started getting real, I was like, could I eat
a burrito that was comprised of like six tortillas and
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then otherwise burrito size?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I think I could.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Burrito?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Have you ever done my competitive Chipotle Li burrito eating anything?
That was the thing I remember when I lived in
New York in my early twenties. My friends who went
into like Wall Street stuff that was a big thing
with like bankers competitively, like yeah, dude, this this guy's
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a legend. He took down four bricks one lunch thing.
It's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Four full chipot L burritos.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I wonder The closest I ever came is when
I worked at Comedy Central one year.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Instead of you know, paying as well, they once a
year like get an in and out food truck to
come to the parking lot and they would be on
the house and there was a double double eating contest
and I had signed up for it, but I had
a meeting that went long, so I couldn't make it
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out of the parking lot time. But the winner was
like five and a half and I'm like, I could
easily eat more than five and a half double kidding.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Doubles was the winner.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, and a.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Half eleven patties. Yeah, but it's like doable. I mean
I remember eating two. I eat two four by floors
in high school. Yeah, it's all it was. I was
shocked at how low the number was. And I was like,
because again to.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Me, it seems like an unsustainable, like incomprehensible amount of food.
But like I yeah, so everybody has their thing and this, no,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm not saying it's not too much food. I don't
want to eat it, but I'm definitely saying I could
eat it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, you have a skill, you have
a get.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I think I have a skill. And I'm seriously considering testing.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You do the good will hunting speech, but with like
a bag of double double. Do you have any fucking
idea how easy this is for me? Do you have
any idea?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Lighted on fire?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
For some reason, I.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Guess I should should test it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Maybe not.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Maybe you just tested that one time.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You know what, that's what my search history should have been.
How do you know if you have what it takes
to be a competitive eater? There you go, what's something
you think is overrated, overrated, uh doing your thing aka
getting the wrong thing at restaurants. I there's a fucking place.
There's there's a fucking place in La a chain not
(21:37):
a chain, but there are multiple locations. A gaalby gym
place called Sundongdong, yes, which has so if.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Anyone is not, wait, so you didn't get the gay no.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I was with someone that was like, I just want soup,
and I was like, get the fuck out of this
restaurant that.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They do here.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, it was so anyone doesn't is like it's like
braised Korean brisket, beef rib and if you order the
upgrade Oxtail's and then quite sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
If you under the upgrade on that, they put oh yeah,
full heap of mozzarella cheese on it and bring out
a bloat torch that's melt the cheese on top until
it's fucking bubbling. It's one of the great Like.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I will say, I am anti the cheese, but yes,
it is.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
It is.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's so indulgent, it's so ridiculous. I need it. I
think it's already you definitely food, don't need it. It
turns it's like what if Korean food was a pizza right,
essentially a stone bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, but I was I was reminded of one because
I had this fucking insane experience with my friend. Was like,
I just want to like the brisket soup, which the
brisket soup is fine, but it's just like brisket and broth,
and I was just like and and something that doesn't
do it particularly well. There are places in Koreatown that
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do it wonderfully. But yeah, this was peaked in my
brain because there's a Postmates I think ad like a
billboard right now that has SunDog Dog listed as one
of their things and it shows as their example food,
not the Galbi gym, and it was making me feel crazy. Also,
I went with a friend to tam O'Shanter, which is
(23:25):
a prime rib joint in Los Angeles, and that the
funder got the salmon, and it making me feel like
I was losing my mind. Yeah, okay, And it was
both times some version of I'm just doing my thing,
I don't feel like it, and it's like, get the
fuck out of this restaurant.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I find special. Yeah, it made me so mad.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's very frustrating.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I hate Yeah, never never just do the thing or
don't go. And I know people have dietary restrictions, but
I'm gonna be obtuse about it anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,
We'll talk about some news, and we're back. We're back,
and yeah, it's it's uh starting to look like a
(24:22):
trend in the Trump cabinet in terms of a pattern. Yeah, pat,
let's call it a pat.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
A pattern emerges, I think because.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Maybe not a rule specifically, No, no, not a rule.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But I think it's just a coincidence. Okay, Yeah, I
think there's a higher maybe cluster of people in that orbit.
But yeah, when you look at their recent nominations for
cabinet positions, you know, so many of these people have
sexual harassment or sexual assault allegations against them. Elon Musk
obviously had to settle with a private jet flight attendant
who accused him of like exposing himself and trying to
(24:55):
pay her for sex. Pete Hegseeth, who's the Secretary of
Defense nominee, was accused of rape and apparently settled out
of court. Matt Gates has his own shit, accused of
trafficking miners and statutories rape his own shit. I mean,
like he has a whole ethics. Like this guy was
so embroidered. He had to be like, bro, I need
to fucking resign from Congress. Can you help me? He's like,
(25:17):
I don't even give a fuck if I get I
just just get me out of this shit. RFK accused
of assaulting the family nanny and like also set like
sharing nude photos of like women non consensually. Very again,
these are all like the pattern seems very interesting. And
now we have Linda.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
What are you gonna do with Linda McMahon.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
She a woman, Okay, she was just tapped to be
Secretary of Education. Her husband, obviously, Vince McMahon of w
w E fame, has faced so many allegations there's like
documentaries about it. Now has paid out millions to settle
sexual harassment and rape cases. Linda is now also was
named in a suit from former ring boys that's what
(25:59):
they're called. This is from The Daily Beast. Last month,
the group of five former ring boys named the McMahons
in a sex abuse lawsuit, along with World Wrestling Entertainment
and its parent company, The John Does alleged that from
the nineteen seventies to the nineteen nineties, former WWE announcer
Melvin Phillips Junior groomed and sexually assaulted them and other
miners without any consequences from his employer. The obviously Lynda
(26:22):
mcmonslayer is like, this is all just it's scurrilous, it's
it's mendacious, this is this is absurd. They're dragging her
name through the mud merely because she turned a blind eye.
Now McMahon has zero experience and education, so that's also
in the other pattern that emerges. It's like, that's also
not nessus. That's not a prerequisite to have a cabinet position.
(26:43):
So I don't know if she'd Maybe they're being nominated
purely because she has demonstrated like the acute power of
looking the other way when terrible things are happening around her.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But any connection, Like, I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
She's all about school choice. She's definitely on that shit
you which is the other way to be, Like, let's
let's basically deflate public education and send the money to
charter schools and other people who want to teach alternate
versions of history right wing liars. Yeah, you know, the
other the other common thread of Trump's cabinet. It is,
(27:17):
of course, you know, it's smell crazy in there.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Because these are some of the crustiest, Yeah, crustiest individuals
I can think of. Yeah, truly, truly, I mean, like
I think the at a minimum a lot, all these
nominations definitely send like a message that you know, holding
sexual predators to account for their actions is a futile
effort and in fact, we will normalize and reward these people. Yeah,
(27:44):
that is the world that is. I mean, I mean,
this has been happening for a while, but this is
this is very much a very in your face version
of all this now. But yeah, I think speaking of
krusty though, we.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Crusty and you know it's smell crazy in there, we
should Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Whitaker Return of the Matt Whittaker. Remember, so here's the
throwback for those that remember was listening to the show
during the first Trump administration. Matt Whittaker. He was the
man that served as Jeff Sessions chief of staff while
he was Attorney General. And then Sessions did the thing
of like trying to follow the loss of Trump shit
(28:21):
canned him and there was this interim acting age named
Matt Whittaker, who was like the guy between Jeff Sessions
and Bill Barr, and we talked about all these things
that he was involved in. He was, you know, he was.
He took like four hundred thousand dollars to you know,
help other people beg Trump for pardons. He lied about
being an academic All star football player. And really the
(28:44):
part that I think we fondly remember is he tried
to he designed a toilet for men who are well
endowed downstairs, mister Dick toilet, that's the guy who's back.
Dick Toilet is back NATO ambassador. Is what his exposition
could be or probably will be.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Definitely, it's such a great like just you know, li
the lies that someone tells are just so revealing, and
it's like, I'm an academic All American football star, h
and my dick is so big that it drags in
the toilet.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah what Wait? Was the pitch for this toilet a
depth issue?
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I believe it was a depth issue. It was like
the water too high.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You're hanging. It's such a weird toilet. You're just an
old man with just low low balls.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, saggy balls. What about those of us with
saggy dick and balls, I mean, giant, giant genitals.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Could it just wouldn't it be cheaper to just create
like a net to hold your sack with that you
could put like around like underneath the toilet seat whatever.
I'm just trying to figure people don't People don't have
dick toilet money. They might have all nasty you have
to poop through the net. No, no, no, it's like
a front with me, the front Netky are we can
(30:03):
we open up the zoom whiteboard please?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, Oh, let's form the AI function on. So we
have all of these points noted for a post war.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like a little net guarter that goes around your like
upper thighs y yeah thing bro, yeah, ok, yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Imagine like imagine like a mask, right, ye, goes around
right there and then you sit down. It's towards the
front and then its mestled in here. So it doesn't
it keeps it from going into the toilet water. Yeah
all right, sharks, we all know this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
All investment small million dollars of three million the ball net.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So this is a sixty million dollar company. Yeah oh
yeah minimum. Oh your bargain. You're getting it. This is
the thing we're preying on on men's sort of obsession
with genital size. No guy's gonna not buy it.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Isn't what.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You don't need one of these when you go to
the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Just sell it to any public institution the.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
America single use.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And the most important thing is the big dispenser display
that sits right outside of your bathroom, right, And.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, And like a like a large counter that tells
you how many have been used and when used, it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Makes a little sound every time you pull it out,
so I gotta gotta get protected, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It connects to your ring, so every time the doorbell
opens and you don't take one, it just makes a
little like like area wide announcement, like small dick alert. Yeah, yeah,
small alert. Perfect, just thought.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I wanted to talk about neoliberalism a little bit because
I think it's cool now I've been since the election.
I feel like whatever comes next for the opposition party
to the current fascist Republican government needs to specifically take
aim not just at fascism because they tried that, but
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also and perhaps mainly focus the attack on neoliberalism, like
we were talking about with the party that got reelected
during the supposed like, you can't get re elected at
this time as the incumbent in Mexico. They did, and
their whole thing was we are a leftist party that
(32:34):
attacks neoliberalism and makes the focus dismantling neoliberalism and the
sort of corporatetocracy whatever is the easiest to call it,
the machine, the system as it currently exists, the thing
that is constantly siphoning money from people up to corporations
and billionaires. I was listening to I guess John Stewart
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has a podcast called The Weekly Show. I listened for
the first time yesterday, and he was interviewing someone named
Sarah Smarsh who's written about like the Democratic Party turning
their back on the working class. And one of the
things John Stewart said was like he was like, but
the Democrats actually like do good things for the working class,
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and they just can't message it. And he was like,
for instance, like and he made this point that was like,
so he was like, when you think about it, South
Carolina is like Mexico when you compare to northeastern states
with more worker protections.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Why didn't that.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Resonate with people, and it was like being raised from
the standpoint of like, if they just knew what democrats
did for them, like what neoliberalism does for them, they
would have voted for Harris, which I think is wrong,
and like all these technocratic plans are wrong, and not
(33:58):
just because people are too stupid to understand them. I
think the people who are suspicious of these complex sounding
neoliberal like market based solutions are are correct, like those
things should be and so like. But the fact that
he was like proposing this very complex idea and was like,
(34:20):
but if they only knew, you know, was clarifying to
me because I do think that is like one of
the core issues that needs to be focused on, like
neoliberalism has hidden unjust, indefensible like wealth redistribution to corporations
(34:40):
and to wealthy people behind complexity. Like I think that
is people are onto that now, like just look at
all of Wall Street, look at health insurance, look at
banking fees, look at the fact that we still have
to do our taxes even though every other country just
sends you a fucking bill. The whole deal is they
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exhaust you with financial terms and complexity, and then.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
They take your money.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Basically, I'm like, I feel like people are onto it
and like that that's like a huge fucking yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think without being able to art I think a
lot of people are onto the sensation that something is
deeply wrong, but it they're the articulation of it is
where I think we're kind of at that crossroads with who,
like how who's going to capture the messaging around that
feeling better because I think for Trump, there was like
a version where he's just like it's all rigged and
(35:42):
like that was kind of like, yeah, I couldn't feel
that right, even though he himself is like yeah, watch this.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
He's also but I want to hear the reason, like
I think there's this opportunity is he's about to do
it like worse and more transparent currently than anyone ever.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So it's like somebody could come and make this point.
I just don't know if they're going to be willing
to because they're just so addicted to this fucking model
of throwing out really complex solutions that they can then
use to redistribute money to wealthy people.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah. Yeah, there's I mean, there's a there's an op
ed in the New York Times from this guy who
was like a staffer for Harry Reid and John Fetterman,
and he's just good. He's just doing the whole thing
of like, oh, the typical stuff. He goes after like
there was just too much emphasis being put on like
trans rites and you're like that wasn't did that actually happen?
(36:44):
I don't think it did. I don't think that was
being articulated by the Democratic Party and sort of goes
on to be like, it's like this is this is
a quote. It says the Democrats are quote crippled by
a fetish for putting coalition management over a real desire
for power, and they're too eager to please liberal and
progressive interest groups that impose rigid mores and the rigid
mores and vocabulary of college educated elites placing a hard
(37:06):
ceiling on Democrats appeal. And goes on to basically be like,
they're seeing too much ground to like these interest groups,
like in people like the ACLU or people who are
concerned with climate change. But again, you look at how
this campaign was run and it did not feel like
that at all. No, So what are you saying weird? Lie?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, truly, truly, they ran as Republicans like that
was what they did. It was, yeah, like this is
this is exactly like the thing that was evident like
during the campaign is that Harris changed her like that.
That was a thing that I think, like when you
heard people like talking about it, like they were like,
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we don't know what she stands for and it's because
she changed positions like on so many different things. And
I just this is exactly the wrong lesson to take
from this election, like do whatever it takes by changing
your positions, look like you stand for nothing. That is
exactly why they lost. They're basically just like we just
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need to do that thing we just lost doing, but
like do it harder.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, well, because every group has some corners kind of
whip like ideological whiplash from the Democrats, so like it
could be like, yeah, over policing is bad black lives
due matter. Cut to the new platform. They fucking they're like,
I don't know what the fuck y'all are talking about
it that shit four years ago talking about protecting immigrants,
talking about some kind of pathway to citizenship. I don't
(38:39):
know what the fuck y'all are talking about. I never
said some shit like that, talk like there's so many
things like that, people like what the fuck are y'all
even talking about? And I think the biggest reason for
people to be like, what is going on with you guys,
like you don't stand for anything is they completely use
the like.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
This this this administration is a threat to our freedoms
and our democracy line during the entire campaign, but now
that the dust has settled and we know what we're
going into, they're perfectly fine whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
They're perfectly fine with letting whatever happens happen. They're not
even a push to be like, yo, we're gonna try
and gum up, We're gonna try and sabotage this shit.
So he there's like we're gonna put up all kinds
of weird roadblocks to see what we can do just
to kind of slow down the progress of this we're
talking about we're having Pelosi and people be like, yeah,
we can find common ground.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They have sold out every everything that has been their
like foundational like supposed like ideological thing. They've sold everything out,
So what the fuck are people supposed to get excited
enough about to go vote for, like, including in this
past election, their whole thing was like this is like fascism.
This is scary. This is going to usher in a
(39:48):
new era of fascism unlike anything you've ever seen. And
then immediately and for like no benefit that I can
see other than being like I don't want to make
things hot for myself, they immediately buckled. They immediately buckled.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
That was why it felt like the like the government
was lost already regardless of the outcome of the election,
Like life is lost.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Just like, you know, we can't count on any of
these people, Like one of them is worse, but we
can't count on either of them.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So yeah, I just know that's.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean, yeah, that's It just feels like whatever the
next viable opposition is, Like it's not going to be
in an.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Op ed, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
It's probably going to be mocked by John Favreau and
the New York Times like when it's in its early
stages and until it has any sort of electoral success,
But like that is what it's going to take, and
it's not going to be probably the mainstream Democratic Party,
Like it's going to have to be some sort of
you know, political insurgency.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, people just got to get more into the like
simple kind of analysis first, just to be like, is
what they're proposing going to rock the status quo? Because
if not get it the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
It needs to specifically take art, take aim at, and
be about like dismantling the status quo. That's like the
only thing that could possibly work. Like it needs to
in the same way that Trump like targeted status quo,
mainstream media values and mainstream Democrat party values and even
(41:33):
like mainstream Republican party values when he first started, Like,
it needs to do that. It just needs to do
that and actually have beliefs, have like belief and the
solutions cannot be something that involves like banks and like,
let you know, the ACA, like Obamacare, they let fucking
(41:55):
insurance companies come in and write that law. You know,
like the they ran this version of the Democratic Party,
ran on hope and change and then bailed Wall Street out,
like I don't like again in like super complicated legal
fashion that like I don't I think people they've they've
lost all credibility and nobody's ever gonna trust anything that
(42:19):
sounds complex again from this, and nor should they.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I feel like, well, yeah, I mean do you think
the rise of just like I know, the Internet also
had a lot to do with this, but it feels
like all of the culture, like I feel like that
scams are so much bigger now everywhere.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
And I do think as you're saying it, it occurred
to me it was like, oh, all this added complexity,
like you know, from fucking cryptocurrency to just like like
all the Internet shit. Like I think it partially it's
people are living in a world where everything is so
complicated that you know, like you're banking shit. When you
(42:59):
hear the scam version of it, it's not that much
more complicated than what it fucking happens with Chase or whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, exactly, And.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
It's yeah, this whole like proliferation of liars and cheats
is because that's the baseline, because there's no simple shit.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, they're all using the same method, seem too complicated
or make it too complicated for anybody to follow, and
then in the fucking smoke bomb that that creates abscond
with all the money.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I mean the complexity thing is so like the
thing you're talking about. Rather than getting down to this
like microscopic level or like wonky policy speak, you just
you begin to just paint a picture that is a
little bit easier if people understand that, like, people deserve more,
and we are on the we're in the pursuit of
finding a way to get people what they deserve in
(43:50):
the areas of healthcare, housing, education, all these things. And
it doesn't have to be like this is what we're
doing for this specific group or whatever. It's basically that,
like we're trying to do this so everyone benefits. But
again that gets into then people start, you know, you're
obviously going to have these like interest groups are going
to need to be like their lobbying interests be like, hey,
this is what it sounds like. What you're saying is
(44:11):
like anti corporatocracy. So we don't like this. But again,
it's simpler to tell somebody just be like, yo, dude,
whatever your need, whatever you need, we're trying to get
that to you. Yeah, And that's that's the thing to
even talk about. And I know that's that's going to
be that's impossible for the Democratic Party to do because
in that same OpEd, they're like, we need to go
(44:32):
back to messaging things like protecting abortion rights, cheaper prescription medicines,
protecting social security, and those things are like they're fine
because essentially it's they want to do something anything that
resembles progressive policy without actually fully rocking the boat. And again,
the Democrats could have protected abortion rights, but I'm sure
(44:53):
they found it much more potent to use as a
carrot on a stick to try and get people to
vote for them than to actually do the work to
protect people. Yeah, so it's also hard in this media landscape.
I mean, one thing that was insane about this election
was the in the in California, the propositions because we
have a form of direct democracy in California, the fucking
(45:15):
Landlords Association just lying, lying, lying in ads like yeah,
it's actually not going to create more affordable housing.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
What.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Well, truly it was like this this bill will overturn
I forget which proposition was the good one, but it's
like this will overturar rend control protections and it's thirty three.
Yeah that's not true, like they were lying. Yeah, it's
it's because it was I think the thing that they're
trying to like it was the existing measures around it, Yes,
because it was going to get more robust, and they're
(45:46):
just they're using that to be like it's gonna blow
up the rent control policies where you have, yeah, to
usher in better.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Ones, yeah, or to give to give local cities and
counties the ability to to in state.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It was basically like we're gonna they're going to overturn
the status quo. But they just lied in a way
that was like a little shocking because and you know,
a similar thing happened with the the Lyft and Uber
independent contractor shit the previous big election, where those companies
just lied. They had like testimonials from mostly Lyft and
(46:21):
Uber drivers saying like this would be bad for me
and it's not true.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, So that's the thing that is.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Going to be tough, which is just like we're also
in this era of straight up lying that I.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Do feel like is more than usual. Am I crazy?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
No, it's I mean we've lost the media. We don't
have a functional media anymore. So there's nothing, there's no consequences.
Why wouldn't they lie? Yeah, if you turn it to
your point about like the financial logic of the current system,
like we're in an era of scamm Like s scammer
is the president. People love scammers, They like kind of
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admire them, you know, as long as they're successful scammers
who make a lot of money. So like, the the
reason to not lie and cheat like is no longer there,
I feel like, you know, yeah, so yeah, it makes
sense to me that like people would continue continuously.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Well merely behave in a way that they feel like
is reflecting how they feel they're being treated by the
like the country on some love. Yeah. So if everyone
arounds like, oh, it's all scams, okay, so scams are
on the menu, then yeah, that's what it is, you
know what I mean, And I think it's it's.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Really I will say one that I maybe this might
also be my YouTube addiction now my newfound YouTube addiction.
But I kind of have come entirely around on scamming
people via like NFTs. I mean, of course the NFT
people were terrible, but all of the people that lost
money on NFTs were people that also thought they could
scam people. And yeah, there is a perverse, like you know,
(48:00):
of course, some honest people lost money, but it is
sort of nice that only mostly terrible people lost their
terrible people money on NFTs and cryptocurrency in general. Although
I guess that's up right now, but don't worry. It's
still a scam folks. There's no use case for it.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think the most effective thing is
that they've created a bunch of people who have just
had their wealth spike because of crypto shooting up, and
those will those are going to be the people who
will evangelize why we need to protect it in sort
of physical space to other people who are outside of
that crypto world. And I think that's that's what is about.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, Like the actual I think I've said on this
podcast before, but I might be one of the few
retail users of cryptocurrency that exists on Earth. Like I'm
not doing it, like I use it to play we'll
say quasi to not legal poker online, and using it
(49:00):
is the most odious like like trying to use like
just like a retail amount of money is insane. It'
I think I'll just say it. I've said it before
other places of the public. I was trying to move
like I think somewhere between three and five hundred dollars
onto this poker site and it cost me nineteen dollars
in bitcoin fees, and I was like, this is this
(49:21):
is a uniquely shitty experience that it makes me wish
fucking Wells Fargo. Someone someone like Wells Fargo was involved
in this transaction. Please help fucking crazy America. Yeah, that's
how bad cryptocurrency is. I know everyone listening to this
knows that, but it truly is amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
We'll come back.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
We'll talk about a brand new scheme that I guess.
I guess it isn't that new, but a scheme that
I hadn't been paying attention to.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
We'll be right.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
And so violent crime may be down in the US,
not that anybody was aware of that one voting, apparently,
but dairy related crime is on the rise worldwide apparently.
The last month, a daring thief made headlines for stealing
more than three hundred thousand pounds worth of award winning
(50:23):
cloth bound Cheddar.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Pounds sterling, not the weight pound yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Pounds sterly, sorry thanks to It was basically, they did
an elaborate con that involved impersonating a wholesale distributor for
a big French Cheddar retailer. I don't associate France with Cheddar, but.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Oh you feel like Cheddar's beneath the French?
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, Cheddar feels like that's like some US show, you know,
it feels like like that that's what several wars have
been fought over, is France versus England. But yeah, basically
Ocean eleven if George Clooney got hungry halfway through the
movie and changed all his plans to be like about
(51:06):
just getting as much cheese as possible. But yeah, I
don't know, this kind of ties into what we were
talking about, Like there's just a lot of appetite for
cheese in the black market apparently.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, it's last week and Vancouver police stopped the thief
from stealing twelve eight hundred dollars worth of cheese from
Whole Foods. That's so much cheese.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, yeah, It's the thing that it's really interesting though,
is like the why you know, because you're like, what
the fuck? What cheese? Like a three hundred thousand pound
sterling cheese heist? What what are y'all doing? Where you
like the pound? Where's the market.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Actual pound like weight pound? It was apparently as many
as four full weighed roughly the same amount as four
full sized elephants, which that's I'm like, so that that's
why you normally do jewel thief.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Which is what that amount is called a truckle. They said,
nine hundred and fifty truckles of cheese. Once you step
on it, throwing a little velveda, you don't even know
how big it is, exactly exactly. Oh yeah, bro, I
turned that nine to fifty truckles in about fucking three
thousand truckles. Baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Basically, the price of chesn't specifically fine cheese has been
going up on the black market, meaning that the resale
price is also higher everywhere. And it's just wild to
me that people are buying cheese on the black market,
right but right next to where drugs are sold.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
They're like, well too, because it's not like somebody's like, yo,
b I need my cloth bound cheddar man sick, oh,
like I need that shit. It's because the price are
I like, restaurants in bakeries are like to the ones
who are like, yo, you got that ship on the low? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'll cop that. Yeah yeah, I'm gonna make a I'm
(53:07):
just gonna make a business pitch to the lovely ziking
out here. This luxury cheese got to be something you
can forge, right, you just put that that fancy cloth
on the outside oft to be something you can fucking
how many dickheads are really gonna be like like, oh,
take a little taste and be like this is this
(53:28):
is fake? Could you imagine? It's like it's like a
whole fucking Miami vice sample the goods, Yeah, and puts
it into a brink and then like like nah, this
ain't camm beer.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
I'm just saying there are levels of funk you can
achieve without whatever then happens.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Just straight up just like shitty fucking I'm just saying
it has to given the incentives, this has to be doable.
And somebody fucking do the Great cheese heist or no,
the Great cheese forgery. Someone is the Rembrandt of forging cheeses. Yeah,
(54:06):
it is.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
A block of Philadelphia cream cheese with like some spices mixed.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Listen, I listen. There has to be some some version
of just apple cider, vinegar, a little bit of fucking
a little bit of the original gin well like because
if you think about it, right, like the way it's
being reported, it is like small businesses that are the
biggest buyers of black market cheese that I'm sure those
people involved in the game are like, yeah, bro, I
just flipped like a fucking eighteen pounds of tillamook and
(54:34):
I told him that, Ye from England. You can you
can dust it up. You can fucking add a little
bit of whatever the fuck needs to go on to
the straws and whatnot. Because also, like you know, this
is a thing like when you tell people some food
is a fine thing, they fucking buy it. Your brain
fills in all the gaps. Yeah, you just add enough
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like fucking complexity. Again, my pitch is a little bit
of mustard powder, but it could be anything, right, a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I feel like mustard powder would trick my ass. Yeah,
I mean one of the things I say is a
strength of this because like obviously, like jewels, fine art
much easier to transport, like than yeah, four elephants worth
or fucking nine hundred truckles worth of cheese. But one
of the upsides of cheese is that it's they say
(55:22):
it's easily laundered because it's you just repurpose it in
the kitchen and it's gone. It's in someone's digestive tract
like four days later. Yeah, the evidence is evaporates. Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Toilet, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
The FBI is not like this person suddenly came upon
a whole lot of cheese, you know, it just it
shows up in like the bottom line of a restaurant
three months later, and no, nobody's the wiser.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
It's just yeah, it's just wild. Like in the early
two thousands, cheese was the most stolen product in the
UK and Europe. Not yeah, the most stolen food, but
the most stolen product period. I mean, I get it, bro, Like,
what's what are you gonna do? Like, how many years
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do you do if you get caught with like three
truckles of cheese versus a fucking kilo of fucking heroin?
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, And like restaurants are shady as fuck, you know,
like the restaurant industry is. I'm sure like that it's
so infused by mobs and stuff like that that I'm
sure it's not that hard to plug that ship right
into the supply chain.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
You know, someone out there write a write a the
bear specscript about the cheese one episode.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Hell yeah, I got heroin. Yeah, yeah, this is fucking crazy.
But this also, that's the other loophole.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Now the fucking restaurant can claim, oh this has whatever
you know, insane cheese in it, and then if they
ever get found out, which they never would, they can
be like, oh my black market cheese.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Guy fucking lied to me.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, told me scam scams up and down, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Told me got it whole foods for really that it
was just on sale. I did realize, like at a
certain point my surprise at it being cheddar is just
me being like, come on, there's gotta be parmesan, right
because mafia, come.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
On, what are we doing here? Folks conditioned immediately them?
Speaker 1 (57:40):
Come on, I seen good fellas. I know what they
the mafia does in prison, like the garlics so fine
premium cheese. Anyways, maybe we can connect this black market
cheese smuggling to an eating contest.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
If you know somebody who's in in the in the game. Like,
I just want to know a little bit more about
how that works.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Like we need the mongers, we need the scammers, we
need the daarists.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
The cows. There's some cows.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
There's got to be black market cows out there squaring
out this black mark of cheese.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yes, fine, let us know stressed out cow looks like
Adam move moves like Adam Sandler in Andrew T what
a pleasure having you on? Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
Follow you?
Speaker 1 (58:38):
All that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh man?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
You know since day one, I've been just posting non
stop on Blue Sky, just.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Blue blueying it just up the up the roof. I
don't know, I will say I have. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
I I replaced Blue Sky with where the Twitter app
was on my phone, just like in terms of app
placement to thumb muscle memory.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
And it did make me sick.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
It's not good, but it did make me significantly less anxious.
So fucking I guess, I guess follow me there.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
You know it is this racist that's my podcast, I
will say on the premium show, because my co host
has been out of town, I've been doing a lot
of single person musings about mutual aid that I have
heard people find useful.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
I don't know if that's true. I'm a dumbass, but
consider it.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
There you go, go check it out. Always a great show.
Thank you, and go follow Andrew on Blue Sky Blue
Sky and Andrew t Head on threads this Ski that's social.
I'm still at the point where, like I, every time
I type Blueska into an actual computer browser. I go
to just blue sky dot com, which is just a
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random place themselves, like home goods.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Did you even log into blue Sky on I've never
even tried. Yeah, I don't know if you can. Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Is there a work of media Andrew that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Hell yeah, I've been trying to teach myself how to
write procedurals in our new media landscape. It feels like
that's the ship that people are gonna want. And so
I have been watching the fucking Rockford Files from the top.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Wow. Let me tell you, I don't know much about
the history of it. I don't know much about detective genres.
What I do know is that the entertainment industry in
the seventies was rife with cocaine, and watching like episode
like mainlining episodes of The Rockford Files really under underlines
that shit, because some of that shit is Craig Cray.
Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Wow, what is the Rockford Files guy?
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's like a police procedural.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it's atective procedural, just a just fucking I don't
even know his name is Rockford. Uh, I don't know
if he has a first name. I'm sure he does
and having.
Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
The rock Ford.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, it's it's like a thing where I' like don't
really have any connection to any of it. It was
his name, fucking James Garner was the the actor. I'm
looking at the Wikipedia now, but it's mostly just like
to me, the way the stories come together, I'm trying
to learn the rhythm of a detective, a quirky detective procedural,
and and he's that. But it's very it's very la
(01:01:26):
and it's very just. It seems to be an incredibly
hot woman comes to him with a problem of the week.
Somewhere around thirty six minutes, there is a car or
plane chase that doesn't totally connect for me in terms
of how we got there. There's various types of kung
fu of various quality, and oftentimes a pretty pretty fucked
(01:01:49):
up gunfight that also feels totally a wee bet out
of the blue in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Car chase in the seventies, it's that's just one of
those things where I'm like, I'll never understand, like this
is this isn't interesting to me, Like a lot of
car chasers are just boring as hell. It's really weird.
Brothers is a real overlap of two things that I
will never be able to understand. It's hard to put
yourself and yeah car chases and just put yourself in
(01:02:19):
the mindset because it's just.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Like, I know all of our attention spans have been eroded,
but I feel like classically like that at the time,
people are like fucking like a new episode of Rockford
Files was like, oh what if they made a new
fast and furious movie every week? This is the most
heart power ship you could have it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, you know when people are like movie podcasts or whatever,
like what's all right? Top three favorite movie? Yeah, car chases?
You might as well be like.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
That part in Bullet.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Where his car goes like three inches off the ground,
like shy, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
You might as well know about like the five greatest
volleyball players.
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Of all time? All right?
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Sure, sick?
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I think I'd actually if I went and watched the
volleyball players, I'd be I'd have more reaction than like
any any just seem the same to me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Any entertainment that has to cut for you to get it,
that has to cut to a guy in a director's
chair going, what you have to understand about the time.
Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Is and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Do just a long, long explanation of like that's that
does sound thrilling?
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
People still hadn't gotten used to the idea of cars.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Miles.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Where can people find you? Is there a working media
you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Uh? Yeah, find me everywhere miles of Gray, including Blue Sky.
Check us all out over there, and you can find
Jack and on the basketball podcast Mountain Jack on Mad Boosties.
Find me talking about ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:03:56):
Four to twenty day fiance a Blue Ski, I like,
is from uh at this one over here is, but
but the O and over is a zero.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Uh And they they said this place is big coffee
shop inside a bookstore vibes and I'm here for it.
It's like a very specific You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
if you're kicking it in here that I think. I
think I have an idea of what planet you're from.
Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Yeah, I'm going to make this proposal, and I'm sure
it's happened elsewhere. But I feel like I've I'm not
hearing this as much as I thought I would, which
is Elon doesn't want it. I think we should just
call posts on Blue Sky.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Tweets.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yeah, tweets are things sounds that come out of the skyds.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
He just sues people on Blue Sky for using every
time as I prefer always, Like, are we calling them
skates business? Really right? It's like just because crawl personally,
just because you can be like he me get some
Kleenex or whatever, that doesn't mean it's the brand.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
It's like you just associate the thing. Oh may I
have a facial tissue? Get the fuck out of here,
kleen X.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian
and on Blue Sky at jack ob the number one
dot bskuy dot Social. Somebody pointed out it could be
interpreted as Jack oh bone rock Lobster on the discord
like aka, no sorry, Doc Underscore Lobster on the discord
(01:05:35):
jackobone dot best guy, Hey jackobone, but jacko B number one.
I did a bad job on pigging my Blue Sky name.
Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I don't given the exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yeah, you should add your ao L dot com address
on there. I give it jackob at a o L
dot com dot dsky dot dot what exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I've been enjoying an account over there called awful Taste
but Great Execution, where they feature photos of things like
somebody who just like completely nailed a glossy nail that
looks like salami, or nails that look like tongues coming
into the tips of their fingers.
Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yeah, this is the perfect time on a social media
thing where you just take shit wholesale from Reddit and
post it on another app as if you're the one
like yeah, an all the way, because that's like so
many content accounts are just like if you're on Ready
or like that was on Reddit earlier. But yeah, that's
a whole subreddit called at b ge awful Taste with
(01:06:40):
great execution.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Okay, I did just right? Is the time I am
catching it now. One of them is like a shag
carpet that looks like they've made it look like crocodile
is emerging from the shag carpet.
Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
It's fucking so rare.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. I
think we're on Blue Sky. We're gonna start posting episodes
and all that shit on Blue Sky pretty soon, where
the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan
page and a website daily zeikeist dot com, where we
post our episodes and our footnote. No we look off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
(01:07:20):
Miles of song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
We're going back to the well the djon and McGee. Well,
last time there was a video of that track, Big
MIC's the live version. Well, there's another performance from that
same sort of visual album. This is djon and McGee,
but this is dejons track. It's called talk Down, but
check out the live version because it's super dope too,
(01:07:43):
kind of a similar setting. I think the album version
sounds cool, but the live version sounds, in my opinion,
way better, So check it out. It's on YouTube. Djon
talk Down, the live version, check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Hell yeah, we'll link off to that in the footnotes.
Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
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That's going to do it for us this morning. We
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and we will talk to y'all then, Bye bye
I don't watch that ship. Should I watch the young Turks?
It sounds like I should. You don't mean to it's
I like the old Turks personally.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I like the mechanical Turks. That is just straight up
regular ass Ottoman Empire. Hell yeah, I love Gallipoli. I'm out.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's that's uh. You won the name, that tune of
historical references and Alexander the Great, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I remember what my mom was like, you gotta watch Gallipoli,
Like when I was fucking eight.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Didn't you didn't they make you watch that ship in school?
I feel like I had to watch it in school.
Oh you had to watch the Gli. Yeah, I did
not watch it in school. That was my mom being like,
check out Gallipoli.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's that's good. That's a good ass mom, right there.
I mean like when you're when you're born in fucking
a rubble of World War two Japan, bro, you need
there's no such thing as being precious. Motherfucker. I remember
when I watched Bambi and I fucking cried and ship.
She was like, get over that ship, bro.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I'm a that's right, soft ass, little everything so scary?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Why is everything so scary. She was channeling.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
She was talking to me like America, like she was
Vince Staples being like, yeah, he's coming for you. You
are a bitch. Oh thanks mom, Okay, it could be
James Baldwin. I'm trying to be tough.
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This this season.
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Check out what we look like saying stuff like this
or even like this. Oh I just was serving kunt
when I said that it's Thursday, this Thanksgiving, we're serving cunt.
That's right. It's Thursday, November twenty first, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Hey, it's a National Rural Health Day. Shout out two
of those very very delicate health systems we have in
rural America. National Gingerbread Cookie Day, National Red Mitten Day.
Shut Up's best for the Canadians out there, I believe
based on just the image of a maple leaf on
a mitten that says Canada National Stuffing Day. That's actually
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my favorite Thanksgiving food And the Great American Smokeout which
isn't the thing that I would be going to. It's
actually about smoking cessation. But hey, smokay, get how you live? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is it a Great American cessation via the old school
way of getting people not smoked by making them smoke
like an entire pack in one sitting.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes. Basically it says this is an annual social engineering
event woo that sounds good to encourage Americans to top
tobacco smoking and basically challenges smokers to quit cigarettes for
twenty four hours with the hopes that this decision will
continue forever.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, well they gave it the wrong name, the Great
Smokeout Day.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It just makes me want to go smoke. Well, yeah, brother,
about to go get a pack of fucking Optimos or
some shit.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah smoking lab optimost. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien
aka when you got a brainworm up inside your skull
that says double down on the numb back that one
courtesy lesson zero on the Discord, and I'm thrilled to
(04:20):
be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Grass Miles Gray AKA parties.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Two motherfuckers don't care about you trying to keep up
status quose they got there's Finnis slammed the door closed off.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Of the money. Yes, their morals blow. Okay, shout out
Helsion Salad, who did a whole fucking andre verse to
the Elevator's outcast track. I just hit the chorus, but
I've looked the Zech gang ever since. The more people
who joined the Discord, the fucking amount of Aka's in
there is blinding, and We're appreciated because I'm dipping into scissors.
(04:58):
I gotta hurt the six to six seen an l
A Kendrick one that's coming. Some are works of art
that I will not sell you with my mortal voice,
but I will attempt them. I will attempt them. So
shout out House on Sale, shout out everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Uh, one of these days, once you get your wind up,
you gotta you gotta, I gotta get to get ready,
get that v O two max up. Well, Miles were
thrilled to be joined in our third teapot. One of
our favorite guests on the show, one of the very
faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV
writer you know from thes This Racist podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, it's Andrew gonna walk you through my thought process
on a failed a k A.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, which is now that now that we are in
a Trump's America, I was looking to rewrite the courtesy
of the Red, White and Blue by Toby Keith. Oh wow,
I got too depressed. I don't even know how that
one goes. I know totally.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's the one about putting a putting a boot in
Osama bin Laden's ass.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's a it's a it's.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
A throwback, okay, but god, it must have been so
mad when Obama, when ben Laden got killed under the Obamas. Yeah,
that must have been what like gave him whatever killed him?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's that's my every time I leave karaoke, I always
tell myself, man, you don't be really funny.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If I learned that the Red White and Blue song
and I Never do.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You might be might be pretty popular in LA these days.
We were saying before we started recording, We're seeing the
the stray mega hat popping.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, I don't even know. There were two Trump flags
in my neighborhood in Echo Park, Yeah, everywhere, which does
over index for young shitheads. So you know, yeah, gen
zad you knew gen Z was bad? Yeah, Jense's bad.
(06:59):
Damn we're right.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The wrong? Is it the system? Who knows? Who knows?
That would be just these kids these days, I think
they're right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, Andrew, how are you doing? This is the first
time coming on since the election?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right, pretty yeah, real good.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean, I will Here's one thing I will say
is I'm probably I'm guessing everyone you have on has
to do a little check in. And I've been having
a lot of conversations. The thing that has helped me,
which is not a real helpful thing, is that everything
you thought, everything you think is gonna be bad and
it will be bad, is already happening.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Like literally everything you just I'd say, you just don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
About it, like you know, it was just very like odd,
Like I had a conversation with my friend, a friend
who's like one of the very like, you know, cable
news junkie type you know, very like MSNBC type person
and and just the list of things they were very
upset about. I was kind of biting my tongue, but
(08:07):
I was just like, I'm not saying it's not going
to be worse, but.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
All of these things are happening now, right, Yeah, I was.
I think it was maybe last week. I was just saying, like,
all of these things, when they were problems for like
marginalized groups, were just things that were happening. And now
that the spotlight had been widened to touch more, just
you know, people who didn't see themselves as being marginalized
are now like these are fucking problems, And yeah, I
(08:35):
hope it can serve as some kind of a moment
to inspire people to inspect their values a little bit further,
because yeah, it's what I will also say, while things
are going to be bad, all this shit is unbelievably
out of your control, and there was plenty of shit
within your control that you can do. I've been putting
(08:57):
more time, I've been slacking a little bit on the
mutually group that I try to help out with here
in LA. But I've said this on many podcasts already,
Like everything you think every your personal thing, the thing
you're most worried about. Even in our case in liberal
ass southern California, liberal and quotes, we went ahead and
(09:17):
didn't outlaw slavery, for instance. So you know, everything bad
that you're worried about is happening now and you can
do something about it at least on a personal level
to one or two or whatever people, And you should
do that now. Yeah, I'm sort of coalescing around this
idea of for a lot of the folks who don't
(09:39):
normally don't do much or just like fret this is
this is like idea that like, like, you know, one
structure that I have found to be like very damaging
to society has been Christianity as it's comprised in America
in twenty twenty four. And one thing that organized religion
does is ask fucking ten percent out of all of
(10:00):
its members. And I know money might not be an option,
but consider fucking using ten percent of your work time.
So for most people like forty four four sorry four
hours a week to fucking do something. Yeah, that's that's
my sort of pitch.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Think of it as a tithe because you know, those
fuckers do it reflectively.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So I can get. Yeah, exactly, how does that get
me to lambo? Yeah, so y'all by this merch that
we're selling. Thank you, you know, spend about ten percent
of your income on that. But no, it is true,
like you can any just again, when we had Margaret on,
just think about how you can get your toe in.
But get your toe just get your dip it, just
(10:39):
dip it a little bit and then you just get
a little bit more comfortable and then next thing you know,
you'll be you'll be much more comfortable with it all.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So anyway, and since since I since I pitched this,
I'm going to go right into my underrated because this
has been a part and parcel thing that has been happening,
which is while trying to and this is said with
all the love that is available. One part of dipping
your toe into things like mutual aid, things like local
(11:07):
community is at the end of the day, you're going
to be hanging out with a lot of people that
you find annoying, but it doesn't make them bad.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, So hanging out with people you find annoying.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, because my underrated is you know, on the balance,
at least they're fucking not Nazis.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And they're doing shit and you know, sort of like
it or not. Those folks are going to be the
folks that are motivated and can and have experience and
and you know, yes they can. You know, some folks
sometimes are a little annoying, but that's okay. I think
we all should get better at fucking being okay with
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annoying people.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Being around people who are annoying evil.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
When the alternative is evil, you got to he with annoying.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's a good underrated. All right,
we're that that is your underrated and we're going to
get to know you a little bit better in the
moment by get your search history and overrated. But first,
a couple of things we're going to be talking about.
We're going to be looking at the one thing that
we can consistently say about Trump's cabinet is that sexual
(12:21):
predation seems to be a required skill. So we'll talk
about that. We'll talk about just like the evolving kind
of defense, the antibodies coming to the defense of neoliberalism
in the aftermath of the election, and just that I
feel like complexity and then being like, well, you know,
(12:42):
we have all these like super complex solutions that are
market based that tie people to incentivized structure, Like those
sorts of things need to stop, need to be attacked dismantled.
But yeah, there's been there's been, like some very annoying
beds that I want to talk about. So we'll talk
(13:02):
about that. We might get to some cheese heists that
are happening, all of that plenty more. But first, Andrew,
in addition to asking you something he thinks underrated, we
do like to ask what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
All right, this is this is the last I mean,
this is obviously just the YouTube algorithm finally honing in
on who the fuck I am.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They captured you I searched for.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So basically I would I would consider myself a enthusiastic
amateur as far as eating too much goes. And YouTube
recently really started serving me up people doing food challenge
type things. Oh yeah, yeah, and so I did search
for food challenges Los Angeles. So I wanted to get
out a lay of the land and just just.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Try to figure out I was.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I was having conversation with the friend the other day
and I was kind of like going over the things
that I think I'm genuinely world class, and I feel
like there was a time where I was like, I'm
a world class eater.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, and I think that time has passed.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
But you know, sometimes the old dog needs to come
out for another blaze of glory.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know if I'm going to try it, but
I'm really thinking about it for another glory. One last job.
I'm really thinking about it, which like such a bad idea.
What do you think? What do you think you can
really put down? I I think kind of anything.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like one of those people that, like,
you know, hot food, like spicy. Oh, I guess I
probably would prefer Yeah, I would prefer not to have
an element of I would prefer volume or speed right
over a spice tolerance because that that has that has
diminished quicker than my capacity to just fucking throw it down.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They keep like a Heimlich person on hand for like
the speed and volume challenge.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I think they just have like a mouth adapter for
like a shop back yeah mouth and just fucking fire inside.
I the the uh the YouTube videos I've seen of
professionals who go around doing this does seem to indicate
that there's a significant amount of legal indemnity. You have
to grant the restaurant before they allow you to try this.
(15:20):
There's always a signing of some kind of agreement. Even
eating pancakes. They're like, no, motherfucker, because this is this
is a bad idea. Yeah, I guess I just feel
like I could, uh I can I'm you know again,
this is I think this is exactly like the armchair
version of like I could beat Serena Williams right plane. Yeah,
(15:42):
so I'm sure I couldn't actually, but I genuinely like
of the like physical anomalies that exist in the world,
you know, physical feats. Yeah, yeah, I think the one
that I am closest to, you know, becoming any kind
of high level would be competitive eating. Dude, I want
to go. Whatever you're tell me when you go try
(16:03):
one of these, I want to go. I want to
see can you are?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You do you have to pay for half?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
If you fuck up? I want to see and.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Because you spend you have the same skill or you're
I like.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
To watch, motherfucker want Yeah, yeah, baby, just watch I
hit I hit my microphone pantomiming eating.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Eating All right, Donald Trump, could you eat like would
you could you eat three whole Shooter sandwiches a recipe
that you put me onto, like.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, Shooter sandwiches once again, whole loaf of country bread,
two steaks, and I that's all the volume of it.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Branson served with Branston pick All on the side. I
think three.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I think I would have a ton of trouble with
I think, like in a like I'm trying to win something, capassidy,
I could do two all right.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Right, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Four steaks that's a lot like sixty that's like sixty
ounces of and two loaves of bread. I guess it's
well the you know the bread is hollowed out.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
In the middle. Yeah, so maybe one loaf of bread, oops,
all crusted. Okay, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk. Yeah,
I genuinely think I could do it, Okay, I don't
think I would like be happy about it, and I
think I would.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
I would have to.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do all the training, like just like two days prior,
like having like just fucking gallons of water, right and whatnot?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Is that what they do to train for it to
stretch the tummy out the tom tom. I can drink
things extremely fast, but I don't drink alcohol anymore, so
like chugging contests are kind of out the window. But yeah,
when we had Margaret Killjoy on, she was saying, like,
you know, figure out the thing you're good at, and
then you know, find a way to help people with that.
(17:48):
And I've been breaking my brain trying to be like,
how can I with the speed with which I can
down a twelve pack of Mountain Dew, how can I
help the world? And no takers so far.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Are I'm not yet?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So okay, So Jessica is a doctor an engineer. Jack, Okay,
you wrote down you love yellow number five food?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Guys like, did drink it? Until changes the color of
my veins?
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yeah? My arms? Bro?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh my god, n I got bro. I call it
the sparkle blow.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I look like Edward from a Twilight every time I'm done,
because I'm just sparkling.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's it's like Twilight, but you change the color grading
on your TV and it's sort of.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like, yeah, did you put a magnet by it? Maybe
I just I can't tell what's happening here. No, I'm
just pretty sure. I mean again, I'm not one hundred percent,
which is why I looked up I you know, once
it started getting real, I was like, could I eat
a burrito that was comprised of like six tortillas and
(18:59):
then otherwise burrito size?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I think I could.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Burrito?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Have you ever done my competitive Chipotle Li burrito eating anything?
That was the thing I remember when I lived in
New York in my early twenties. My friends who went
into like Wall Street stuff that was a big thing
with like bankers competitively, like yeah, dude, this this guy's
(19:28):
a legend. He took down four bricks one lunch thing.
It's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Four full chipot L burritos.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I wonder The closest I ever came is when
I worked at Comedy Central one year.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Instead of you know, paying as well, they once a
year like get an in and out food truck to
come to the parking lot and they would be on
the house and there was a double double eating contest
and I had signed up for it, but I had
a meeting that went long, so I couldn't make it
(20:03):
out of the parking lot time. But the winner was
like five and a half and I'm like, I could
easily eat more than five and a half double kidding.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Doubles was the winner.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, and a.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Half eleven patties. Yeah, but it's like doable. I mean
I remember eating two. I eat two four by floors
in high school. Yeah, it's all it was. I was
shocked at how low the number was. And I was like,
because again to.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Me, it seems like an unsustainable, like incomprehensible amount of food.
But like I yeah, so everybody has their thing and this, no,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm not saying it's not too much food. I don't
want to eat it, but I'm definitely saying I could
eat it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, you have a skill, you have
a get.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I think I have a skill. And I'm seriously considering testing.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You do the good will hunting speech, but with like
a bag of double double. Do you have any fucking
idea how easy this is for me? Do you have
any idea?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Lighted on fire?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
For some reason, I.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Guess I should should test it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Maybe not.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Maybe you just tested that one time.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You know what, that's what my search history should have been.
How do you know if you have what it takes
to be a competitive eater? There you go, what's something
you think is overrated, overrated, uh doing your thing aka
getting the wrong thing at restaurants. I there's a fucking place.
There's there's a fucking place in La a chain not
(21:37):
a chain, but there are multiple locations. A gaalby gym
place called Sundongdong, yes, which has so if.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Anyone is not, wait, so you didn't get the gay no.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I was with someone that was like, I just want soup,
and I was like, get the fuck out of this
restaurant that.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They do here.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, it was so anyone doesn't is like it's like
braised Korean brisket, beef rib and if you order the
upgrade Oxtail's and then quite sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
If you under the upgrade on that, they put oh yeah,
full heap of mozzarella cheese on it and bring out
a bloat torch that's melt the cheese on top until
it's fucking bubbling. It's one of the great Like.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I will say, I am anti the cheese, but yes,
it is.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
It is.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's so indulgent, it's so ridiculous. I need it. I
think it's already you definitely food, don't need it. It
turns it's like what if Korean food was a pizza right,
essentially a stone bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, but I was I was reminded of one because
I had this fucking insane experience with my friend. Was like,
I just want to like the brisket soup, which the
brisket soup is fine, but it's just like brisket and broth,
and I was just like and and something that doesn't
do it particularly well. There are places in Koreatown that
(23:02):
do it wonderfully. But yeah, this was peaked in my
brain because there's a Postmates I think ad like a
billboard right now that has SunDog Dog listed as one
of their things and it shows as their example food,
not the Galbi gym, and it was making me feel crazy. Also,
I went with a friend to tam O'Shanter, which is
(23:25):
a prime rib joint in Los Angeles, and that the
funder got the salmon, and it making me feel like
I was losing my mind. Yeah, okay, And it was
both times some version of I'm just doing my thing,
I don't feel like it, and it's like, get the
fuck out of this restaurant.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I find special. Yeah, it made me so mad.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's very frustrating.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I hate Yeah, never never just do the thing or
don't go. And I know people have dietary restrictions, but
I'm gonna be obtuse about it anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,
We'll talk about some news, and we're back. We're back,
and yeah, it's it's uh starting to look like a
(24:22):
trend in the Trump cabinet in terms of a pattern. Yeah, pat,
let's call it a pat.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
A pattern emerges, I think because.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Maybe not a rule specifically, No, no, not a rule.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But I think it's just a coincidence. Okay, Yeah, I
think there's a higher maybe cluster of people in that orbit.
But yeah, when you look at their recent nominations for
cabinet positions, you know, so many of these people have
sexual harassment or sexual assault allegations against them. Elon Musk
obviously had to settle with a private jet flight attendant
who accused him of like exposing himself and trying to
(24:55):
pay her for sex. Pete Hegseeth, who's the Secretary of
Defense nominee, was accused of rape and apparently settled out
of court. Matt Gates has his own shit, accused of
trafficking miners and statutories rape his own shit. I mean,
like he has a whole ethics. Like this guy was
so embroidered. He had to be like, bro, I need
to fucking resign from Congress. Can you help me? He's like,
(25:17):
I don't even give a fuck if I get I
just just get me out of this shit. RFK accused
of assaulting the family nanny and like also set like
sharing nude photos of like women non consensually. Very again,
these are all like the pattern seems very interesting. And
now we have Linda.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
What are you gonna do with Linda McMahon.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
She a woman, Okay, she was just tapped to be
Secretary of Education. Her husband, obviously, Vince McMahon of w
w E fame, has faced so many allegations there's like
documentaries about it. Now has paid out millions to settle
sexual harassment and rape cases. Linda is now also was
named in a suit from former ring boys that's what
(25:59):
they're called. This is from The Daily Beast. Last month,
the group of five former ring boys named the McMahons
in a sex abuse lawsuit, along with World Wrestling Entertainment
and its parent company, The John Does alleged that from
the nineteen seventies to the nineteen nineties, former WWE announcer
Melvin Phillips Junior groomed and sexually assaulted them and other
miners without any consequences from his employer. The obviously Lynda
(26:22):
mcmonslayer is like, this is all just it's scurrilous, it's
it's mendacious, this is this is absurd. They're dragging her
name through the mud merely because she turned a blind eye.
Now McMahon has zero experience and education, so that's also
in the other pattern that emerges. It's like, that's also
not nessus. That's not a prerequisite to have a cabinet position.
(26:43):
So I don't know if she'd Maybe they're being nominated
purely because she has demonstrated like the acute power of
looking the other way when terrible things are happening around her.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But any connection, Like, I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
She's all about school choice. She's definitely on that shit
you which is the other way to be, Like, let's
let's basically deflate public education and send the money to
charter schools and other people who want to teach alternate
versions of history right wing liars. Yeah, you know, the
other the other common thread of Trump's cabinet. It is,
(27:17):
of course, you know, it's smell crazy in there.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Because these are some of the crustiest, Yeah, crustiest individuals
I can think of. Yeah, truly, truly, I mean, like
I think the at a minimum a lot, all these
nominations definitely send like a message that you know, holding
sexual predators to account for their actions is a futile
effort and in fact, we will normalize and reward these people. Yeah,
(27:44):
that is the world that is. I mean, I mean,
this has been happening for a while, but this is
this is very much a very in your face version
of all this now. But yeah, I think speaking of
krusty though, we.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Crusty and you know it's smell crazy in there, we
should Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Whitaker Return of the Matt Whittaker. Remember, so here's the
throwback for those that remember was listening to the show
during the first Trump administration. Matt Whittaker. He was the
man that served as Jeff Sessions chief of staff while
he was Attorney General. And then Sessions did the thing
of like trying to follow the loss of Trump shit
(28:21):
canned him and there was this interim acting age named
Matt Whittaker, who was like the guy between Jeff Sessions
and Bill Barr, and we talked about all these things
that he was involved in. He was, you know, he was.
He took like four hundred thousand dollars to you know,
help other people beg Trump for pardons. He lied about
being an academic All star football player. And really the
(28:44):
part that I think we fondly remember is he tried
to he designed a toilet for men who are well
endowed downstairs, mister Dick toilet, that's the guy who's back.
Dick Toilet is back NATO ambassador. Is what his exposition
could be or probably will be.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Definitely, it's such a great like just you know, li
the lies that someone tells are just so revealing, and
it's like, I'm an academic All American football star, h
and my dick is so big that it drags in
the toilet.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah what Wait? Was the pitch for this toilet a
depth issue?
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I believe it was a depth issue. It was like
the water too high.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You're hanging. It's such a weird toilet. You're just an
old man with just low low balls.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, saggy balls. What about those of us with
saggy dick and balls, I mean, giant, giant genitals.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Could it just wouldn't it be cheaper to just create
like a net to hold your sack with that you
could put like around like underneath the toilet seat whatever.
I'm just trying to figure people don't People don't have
dick toilet money. They might have all nasty you have
to poop through the net. No, no, no, it's like
a front with me, the front Netky are we can
(30:03):
we open up the zoom whiteboard please?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, Oh, let's form the AI function on. So we
have all of these points noted for a post war.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like a little net guarter that goes around your like
upper thighs y yeah thing bro, yeah, ok, yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Imagine like imagine like a mask, right, ye, goes around
right there and then you sit down. It's towards the
front and then its mestled in here. So it doesn't
it keeps it from going into the toilet water. Yeah
all right, sharks, we all know this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
All investment small million dollars of three million the ball net.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So this is a sixty million dollar company. Yeah oh
yeah minimum. Oh your bargain. You're getting it. This is
the thing we're preying on on men's sort of obsession
with genital size. No guy's gonna not buy it.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Isn't what.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You don't need one of these when you go to
the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Just sell it to any public institution the.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
America single use.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And the most important thing is the big dispenser display
that sits right outside of your bathroom, right, And.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, And like a like a large counter that tells
you how many have been used and when used, it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Makes a little sound every time you pull it out,
so I gotta gotta get protected, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It connects to your ring, so every time the doorbell
opens and you don't take one, it just makes a
little like like area wide announcement, like small dick alert. Yeah, yeah,
small alert. Perfect, just thought.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I wanted to talk about neoliberalism a little bit because
I think it's cool now I've been since the election.
I feel like whatever comes next for the opposition party
to the current fascist Republican government needs to specifically take
aim not just at fascism because they tried that, but
(32:13):
also and perhaps mainly focus the attack on neoliberalism, like
we were talking about with the party that got reelected
during the supposed like, you can't get re elected at
this time as the incumbent in Mexico. They did, and
their whole thing was we are a leftist party that
(32:34):
attacks neoliberalism and makes the focus dismantling neoliberalism and the
sort of corporatetocracy whatever is the easiest to call it,
the machine, the system as it currently exists, the thing
that is constantly siphoning money from people up to corporations
and billionaires. I was listening to I guess John Stewart
(32:57):
has a podcast called The Weekly Show. I listened for
the first time yesterday, and he was interviewing someone named
Sarah Smarsh who's written about like the Democratic Party turning
their back on the working class. And one of the
things John Stewart said was like he was like, but
the Democrats actually like do good things for the working class,
(33:21):
and they just can't message it. And he was like,
for instance, like and he made this point that was like,
so he was like, when you think about it, South
Carolina is like Mexico when you compare to northeastern states
with more worker protections.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Why didn't that.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Resonate with people, and it was like being raised from
the standpoint of like, if they just knew what democrats
did for them, like what neoliberalism does for them, they
would have voted for Harris, which I think is wrong,
and like all these technocratic plans are wrong, and not
(33:58):
just because people are too stupid to understand them. I
think the people who are suspicious of these complex sounding
neoliberal like market based solutions are are correct, like those
things should be and so like. But the fact that
he was like proposing this very complex idea and was like,
(34:20):
but if they only knew, you know, was clarifying to
me because I do think that is like one of
the core issues that needs to be focused on, like
neoliberalism has hidden unjust, indefensible like wealth redistribution to corporations
(34:40):
and to wealthy people behind complexity. Like I think that
is people are onto that now, like just look at
all of Wall Street, look at health insurance, look at
banking fees, look at the fact that we still have
to do our taxes even though every other country just
sends you a fucking bill. The whole deal is they
(35:03):
exhaust you with financial terms and complexity, and then.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
They take your money.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Basically, I'm like, I feel like people are onto it
and like that that's like a huge fucking yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think without being able to art I think a
lot of people are onto the sensation that something is
deeply wrong, but it they're the articulation of it is
where I think we're kind of at that crossroads with who,
like how who's going to capture the messaging around that
feeling better because I think for Trump, there was like
a version where he's just like it's all rigged and
(35:42):
like that was kind of like, yeah, I couldn't feel
that right, even though he himself is like yeah, watch this.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
He's also but I want to hear the reason, like
I think there's this opportunity is he's about to do
it like worse and more transparent currently than anyone ever.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So it's like somebody could come and make this point.
I just don't know if they're going to be willing
to because they're just so addicted to this fucking model
of throwing out really complex solutions that they can then
use to redistribute money to wealthy people.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah. Yeah, there's I mean, there's a there's an op
ed in the New York Times from this guy who
was like a staffer for Harry Reid and John Fetterman,
and he's just good. He's just doing the whole thing
of like, oh, the typical stuff. He goes after like
there was just too much emphasis being put on like
trans rites and you're like that wasn't did that actually happen?
(36:44):
I don't think it did. I don't think that was
being articulated by the Democratic Party and sort of goes
on to be like, it's like this is this is
a quote. It says the Democrats are quote crippled by
a fetish for putting coalition management over a real desire
for power, and they're too eager to please liberal and
progressive interest groups that impose rigid mores and the rigid
mores and vocabulary of college educated elites placing a hard
(37:06):
ceiling on Democrats appeal. And goes on to basically be like,
they're seeing too much ground to like these interest groups,
like in people like the ACLU or people who are
concerned with climate change. But again, you look at how
this campaign was run and it did not feel like
that at all. No, So what are you saying weird? Lie?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, truly, truly, they ran as Republicans like that
was what they did. It was, yeah, like this is
this is exactly like the thing that was evident like
during the campaign is that Harris changed her like that.
That was a thing that I think, like when you
heard people like talking about it, like they were like,
(37:49):
we don't know what she stands for and it's because
she changed positions like on so many different things. And
I just this is exactly the wrong lesson to take
from this election, like do whatever it takes by changing
your positions, look like you stand for nothing. That is
exactly why they lost. They're basically just like we just
(38:12):
need to do that thing we just lost doing, but
like do it harder.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, well, because every group has some corners kind of
whip like ideological whiplash from the Democrats, so like it
could be like, yeah, over policing is bad black lives
due matter. Cut to the new platform. They fucking they're like,
I don't know what the fuck y'all are talking about
it that shit four years ago talking about protecting immigrants,
talking about some kind of pathway to citizenship. I don't
(38:39):
know what the fuck y'all are talking about. I never
said some shit like that, talk like there's so many
things like that, people like what the fuck are y'all
even talking about? And I think the biggest reason for
people to be like, what is going on with you guys,
like you don't stand for anything is they completely use
the like.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
This this this administration is a threat to our freedoms
and our democracy line during the entire campaign, but now
that the dust has settled and we know what we're
going into, they're perfectly fine whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
They're perfectly fine with letting whatever happens happen. They're not
even a push to be like, yo, we're gonna try
and gum up, We're gonna try and sabotage this shit.
So he there's like we're gonna put up all kinds
of weird roadblocks to see what we can do just
to kind of slow down the progress of this we're
talking about we're having Pelosi and people be like, yeah,
we can find common ground.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They have sold out every everything that has been their
like foundational like supposed like ideological thing. They've sold everything out,
So what the fuck are people supposed to get excited
enough about to go vote for, like, including in this
past election, their whole thing was like this is like fascism.
This is scary. This is going to usher in a
(39:48):
new era of fascism unlike anything you've ever seen. And
then immediately and for like no benefit that I can
see other than being like I don't want to make
things hot for myself, they immediately buckled. They immediately buckled.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
That was why it felt like the like the government
was lost already regardless of the outcome of the election,
Like life is lost.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Just like, you know, we can't count on any of
these people, Like one of them is worse, but we
can't count on either of them.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So yeah, I just know that's.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean, yeah, that's It just feels like whatever the
next viable opposition is, Like it's not going to be
in an.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Op ed, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
It's probably going to be mocked by John Favreau and
the New York Times like when it's in its early
stages and until it has any sort of electoral success,
But like that is what it's going to take, and
it's not going to be probably the mainstream Democratic Party,
Like it's going to have to be some sort of
you know, political insurgency.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, people just got to get more into the like
simple kind of analysis first, just to be like, is
what they're proposing going to rock the status quo? Because
if not get it the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
It needs to specifically take art, take aim at, and
be about like dismantling the status quo. That's like the
only thing that could possibly work. Like it needs to
in the same way that Trump like targeted status quo,
mainstream media values and mainstream Democrat party values and even
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like mainstream Republican party values when he first started, Like,
it needs to do that. It just needs to do
that and actually have beliefs, have like belief and the
solutions cannot be something that involves like banks and like,
let you know, the ACA, like Obamacare, they let fucking
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insurance companies come in and write that law. You know,
like the they ran this version of the Democratic Party,
ran on hope and change and then bailed Wall Street out,
like I don't like again in like super complicated legal
fashion that like I don't I think people they've they've
lost all credibility and nobody's ever gonna trust anything that
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sounds complex again from this, and nor should they.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I feel like, well, yeah, I mean do you think
the rise of just like I know, the Internet also
had a lot to do with this, but it feels
like all of the culture, like I feel like that
scams are so much bigger now everywhere.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
And I do think as you're saying it, it occurred
to me it was like, oh, all this added complexity,
like you know, from fucking cryptocurrency to just like like
all the Internet shit. Like I think it partially it's
people are living in a world where everything is so
complicated that you know, like you're banking shit. When you
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hear the scam version of it, it's not that much
more complicated than what it fucking happens with Chase or whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, exactly, And.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
It's yeah, this whole like proliferation of liars and cheats
is because that's the baseline, because there's no simple shit.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, they're all using the same method, seem too complicated
or make it too complicated for anybody to follow, and
then in the fucking smoke bomb that that creates abscond
with all the money.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I mean the complexity thing is so like the
thing you're talking about. Rather than getting down to this
like microscopic level or like wonky policy speak, you just
you begin to just paint a picture that is a
little bit easier if people understand that, like, people deserve more,
and we are on the we're in the pursuit of
finding a way to get people what they deserve in
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the areas of healthcare, housing, education, all these things. And
it doesn't have to be like this is what we're
doing for this specific group or whatever. It's basically that,
like we're trying to do this so everyone benefits. But
again that gets into then people start, you know, you're
obviously going to have these like interest groups are going
to need to be like their lobbying interests be like, hey,
this is what it sounds like. What you're saying is
(44:11):
like anti corporatocracy. So we don't like this. But again,
it's simpler to tell somebody just be like, yo, dude,
whatever your need, whatever you need, we're trying to get
that to you. Yeah, And that's that's the thing to
even talk about. And I know that's that's going to
be that's impossible for the Democratic Party to do because
in that same OpEd, they're like, we need to go
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back to messaging things like protecting abortion rights, cheaper prescription medicines,
protecting social security, and those things are like they're fine
because essentially it's they want to do something anything that
resembles progressive policy without actually fully rocking the boat. And again,
the Democrats could have protected abortion rights, but I'm sure
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they found it much more potent to use as a
carrot on a stick to try and get people to
vote for them than to actually do the work to
protect people. Yeah, so it's also hard in this media landscape.
I mean, one thing that was insane about this election
was the in the in California, the propositions because we
have a form of direct democracy in California, the fucking
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Landlords Association just lying, lying, lying in ads like yeah,
it's actually not going to create more affordable housing.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
What.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Well, truly it was like this this bill will overturn
I forget which proposition was the good one, but it's
like this will overturar rend control protections and it's thirty three.
Yeah that's not true, like they were lying. Yeah, it's
it's because it was I think the thing that they're
trying to like it was the existing measures around it, Yes,
because it was going to get more robust, and they're
(45:46):
just they're using that to be like it's gonna blow
up the rent control policies where you have, yeah, to
usher in better.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Ones, yeah, or to give to give local cities and
counties the ability to to in state.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It was basically like we're gonna they're going to overturn
the status quo. But they just lied in a way
that was like a little shocking because and you know,
a similar thing happened with the the Lyft and Uber
independent contractor shit the previous big election, where those companies
just lied. They had like testimonials from mostly Lyft and
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Uber drivers saying like this would be bad for me
and it's not true.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, So that's the thing that is.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Going to be tough, which is just like we're also
in this era of straight up lying that I.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Do feel like is more than usual. Am I crazy?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
No, it's I mean we've lost the media. We don't
have a functional media anymore. So there's nothing, there's no consequences.
Why wouldn't they lie? Yeah, if you turn it to
your point about like the financial logic of the current system,
like we're in an era of scamm Like s scammer
is the president. People love scammers, They like kind of
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admire them, you know, as long as they're successful scammers
who make a lot of money. So like, the the
reason to not lie and cheat like is no longer there,
I feel like, you know, yeah, so yeah, it makes
sense to me that like people would continue continuously.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Well merely behave in a way that they feel like
is reflecting how they feel they're being treated by the
like the country on some love. Yeah. So if everyone
arounds like, oh, it's all scams, okay, so scams are
on the menu, then yeah, that's what it is, you
know what I mean, And I think it's it's.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Really I will say one that I maybe this might
also be my YouTube addiction now my newfound YouTube addiction.
But I kind of have come entirely around on scamming
people via like NFTs. I mean, of course the NFT
people were terrible, but all of the people that lost
money on NFTs were people that also thought they could
scam people. And yeah, there is a perverse, like you know,
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of course, some honest people lost money, but it is
sort of nice that only mostly terrible people lost their
terrible people money on NFTs and cryptocurrency in general. Although
I guess that's up right now, but don't worry. It's
still a scam folks. There's no use case for it.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think the most effective thing is
that they've created a bunch of people who have just
had their wealth spike because of crypto shooting up, and
those will those are going to be the people who
will evangelize why we need to protect it in sort
of physical space to other people who are outside of
that crypto world. And I think that's that's what is about.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, Like the actual I think I've said on this
podcast before, but I might be one of the few
retail users of cryptocurrency that exists on Earth. Like I'm
not doing it, like I use it to play we'll
say quasi to not legal poker online, and using it
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is the most odious like like trying to use like
just like a retail amount of money is insane. It'
I think I'll just say it. I've said it before
other places of the public. I was trying to move
like I think somewhere between three and five hundred dollars
onto this poker site and it cost me nineteen dollars
in bitcoin fees, and I was like, this is this
(49:21):
is a uniquely shitty experience that it makes me wish
fucking Wells Fargo. Someone someone like Wells Fargo was involved
in this transaction. Please help fucking crazy America. Yeah, that's
how bad cryptocurrency is. I know everyone listening to this
knows that, but it truly is amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
We'll come back.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
We'll talk about a brand new scheme that I guess.
I guess it isn't that new, but a scheme that
I hadn't been paying attention to.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
We'll be right.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
And so violent crime may be down in the US,
not that anybody was aware of that one voting, apparently,
but dairy related crime is on the rise worldwide apparently.
The last month, a daring thief made headlines for stealing
more than three hundred thousand pounds worth of award winning
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cloth bound Cheddar.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Pounds sterling, not the weight pound yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Pounds sterly, sorry thanks to It was basically, they did
an elaborate con that involved impersonating a wholesale distributor for
a big French Cheddar retailer. I don't associate France with Cheddar, but.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Oh you feel like Cheddar's beneath the French?
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, Cheddar feels like that's like some US show, you know,
it feels like like that that's what several wars have
been fought over, is France versus England. But yeah, basically
Ocean eleven if George Clooney got hungry halfway through the
movie and changed all his plans to be like about
(51:06):
just getting as much cheese as possible. But yeah, I
don't know, this kind of ties into what we were
talking about, Like there's just a lot of appetite for
cheese in the black market apparently.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, it's last week and Vancouver police stopped the thief
from stealing twelve eight hundred dollars worth of cheese from
Whole Foods. That's so much cheese.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, yeah, It's the thing that it's really interesting though,
is like the why you know, because you're like, what
the fuck? What cheese? Like a three hundred thousand pound
sterling cheese heist? What what are y'all doing? Where you
like the pound? Where's the market.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Actual pound like weight pound? It was apparently as many
as four full weighed roughly the same amount as four
full sized elephants, which that's I'm like, so that that's
why you normally do jewel thief.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Which is what that amount is called a truckle. They said,
nine hundred and fifty truckles of cheese. Once you step
on it, throwing a little velveda, you don't even know
how big it is, exactly exactly. Oh yeah, bro, I
turned that nine to fifty truckles in about fucking three
thousand truckles. Baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Basically, the price of chesn't specifically fine cheese has been
going up on the black market, meaning that the resale
price is also higher everywhere. And it's just wild to
me that people are buying cheese on the black market,
right but right next to where drugs are sold.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
They're like, well too, because it's not like somebody's like, yo,
b I need my cloth bound cheddar man sick, oh,
like I need that shit. It's because the price are
I like, restaurants in bakeries are like to the ones
who are like, yo, you got that ship on the low? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'll cop that. Yeah yeah, I'm gonna make a I'm
(53:07):
just gonna make a business pitch to the lovely ziking
out here. This luxury cheese got to be something you
can forge, right, you just put that that fancy cloth
on the outside oft to be something you can fucking
how many dickheads are really gonna be like like, oh,
take a little taste and be like this is this
(53:28):
is fake? Could you imagine? It's like it's like a
whole fucking Miami vice sample the goods, Yeah, and puts
it into a brink and then like like nah, this
ain't camm beer.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
I'm just saying there are levels of funk you can
achieve without whatever then happens.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Just straight up just like shitty fucking I'm just saying
it has to given the incentives, this has to be doable.
And somebody fucking do the Great cheese heist or no,
the Great cheese forgery. Someone is the Rembrandt of forging cheeses. Yeah,
(54:06):
it is.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
A block of Philadelphia cream cheese with like some spices mixed.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Listen, I listen. There has to be some some version
of just apple cider, vinegar, a little bit of fucking
a little bit of the original gin well like because
if you think about it, right, like the way it's
being reported, it is like small businesses that are the
biggest buyers of black market cheese that I'm sure those
people involved in the game are like, yeah, bro, I
just flipped like a fucking eighteen pounds of tillamook and
(54:34):
I told him that, Ye from England. You can you
can dust it up. You can fucking add a little
bit of whatever the fuck needs to go on to
the straws and whatnot. Because also, like you know, this
is a thing like when you tell people some food
is a fine thing, they fucking buy it. Your brain
fills in all the gaps. Yeah, you just add enough
(54:55):
like fucking complexity. Again, my pitch is a little bit
of mustard powder, but it could be anything, right, a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I feel like mustard powder would trick my ass. Yeah,
I mean one of the things I say is a
strength of this because like obviously, like jewels, fine art
much easier to transport, like than yeah, four elephants worth
or fucking nine hundred truckles worth of cheese. But one
of the upsides of cheese is that it's they say
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it's easily laundered because it's you just repurpose it in
the kitchen and it's gone. It's in someone's digestive tract
like four days later. Yeah, the evidence is evaporates. Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Toilet, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
The FBI is not like this person suddenly came upon
a whole lot of cheese, you know, it just it
shows up in like the bottom line of a restaurant
three months later, and no, nobody's the wiser.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
It's just yeah, it's just wild. Like in the early
two thousands, cheese was the most stolen product in the
UK and Europe. Not yeah, the most stolen food, but
the most stolen product period. I mean, I get it, bro, Like,
what's what are you gonna do? Like, how many years
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do you do if you get caught with like three
truckles of cheese versus a fucking kilo of fucking heroin?
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, And like restaurants are shady as fuck, you know,
like the restaurant industry is. I'm sure like that it's
so infused by mobs and stuff like that that I'm
sure it's not that hard to plug that ship right
into the supply chain.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
You know, someone out there write a write a the
bear specscript about the cheese one episode.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Hell yeah, I got heroin. Yeah, yeah, this is fucking crazy.
But this also, that's the other loophole.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Now the fucking restaurant can claim, oh this has whatever
you know, insane cheese in it, and then if they
ever get found out, which they never would, they can
be like, oh my black market cheese.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Guy fucking lied to me.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, told me scam scams up and down, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Told me got it whole foods for really that it
was just on sale. I did realize, like at a
certain point my surprise at it being cheddar is just
me being like, come on, there's gotta be parmesan, right
because mafia, come.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
On, what are we doing here? Folks conditioned immediately them?
Speaker 1 (57:40):
Come on, I seen good fellas. I know what they
the mafia does in prison, like the garlics so fine
premium cheese. Anyways, maybe we can connect this black market
cheese smuggling to an eating contest.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
If you know somebody who's in in the in the game. Like,
I just want to know a little bit more about
how that works.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Like we need the mongers, we need the scammers, we
need the daarists.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
The cows. There's some cows.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
There's got to be black market cows out there squaring
out this black mark of cheese.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yes, fine, let us know stressed out cow looks like
Adam move moves like Adam Sandler in Andrew T what
a pleasure having you on? Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
Follow you?
Speaker 1 (58:38):
All that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh man?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
You know since day one, I've been just posting non
stop on Blue Sky, just.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Blue blueying it just up the up the roof. I
don't know, I will say I have. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
I I replaced Blue Sky with where the Twitter app
was on my phone, just like in terms of app
placement to thumb muscle memory.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
And it did make me sick.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
It's not good, but it did make me significantly less anxious.
So fucking I guess, I guess follow me there.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
You know it is this racist that's my podcast, I
will say on the premium show, because my co host
has been out of town, I've been doing a lot
of single person musings about mutual aid that I have
heard people find useful.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
I don't know if that's true. I'm a dumbass, but
consider it.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
There you go, go check it out. Always a great show.
Thank you, and go follow Andrew on Blue Sky Blue
Sky and Andrew t Head on threads this Ski that's social.
I'm still at the point where, like I, every time
I type Blueska into an actual computer browser. I go
to just blue sky dot com, which is just a
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random place themselves, like home goods.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Did you even log into blue Sky on I've never
even tried. Yeah, I don't know if you can. Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Is there a work of media Andrew that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Hell yeah, I've been trying to teach myself how to
write procedurals in our new media landscape. It feels like
that's the ship that people are gonna want. And so
I have been watching the fucking Rockford Files from the top.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Wow. Let me tell you, I don't know much about
the history of it. I don't know much about detective genres.
What I do know is that the entertainment industry in
the seventies was rife with cocaine, and watching like episode
like mainlining episodes of The Rockford Files really under underlines
that shit, because some of that shit is Craig Cray.
Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Wow, what is the Rockford Files guy?
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's like a police procedural.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it's atective procedural, just a just fucking I don't
even know his name is Rockford. Uh, I don't know
if he has a first name. I'm sure he does
and having.
Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
The rock Ford.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, it's it's like a thing where I' like don't
really have any connection to any of it. It was
his name, fucking James Garner was the the actor. I'm
looking at the Wikipedia now, but it's mostly just like
to me, the way the stories come together, I'm trying
to learn the rhythm of a detective, a quirky detective procedural,
and and he's that. But it's very it's very la
(01:01:26):
and it's very just. It seems to be an incredibly
hot woman comes to him with a problem of the week.
Somewhere around thirty six minutes, there is a car or
plane chase that doesn't totally connect for me in terms
of how we got there. There's various types of kung
fu of various quality, and oftentimes a pretty pretty fucked
(01:01:49):
up gunfight that also feels totally a wee bet out
of the blue in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Car chase in the seventies, it's that's just one of
those things where I'm like, I'll never understand, like this
is this isn't interesting to me, Like a lot of
car chasers are just boring as hell. It's really weird.
Brothers is a real overlap of two things that I
will never be able to understand. It's hard to put
yourself and yeah car chases and just put yourself in
(01:02:19):
the mindset because it's just.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Like, I know all of our attention spans have been eroded,
but I feel like classically like that at the time,
people are like fucking like a new episode of Rockford
Files was like, oh what if they made a new
fast and furious movie every week? This is the most
heart power ship you could have it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, you know when people are like movie podcasts or whatever,
like what's all right? Top three favorite movie? Yeah, car chases?
You might as well be like.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
That part in Bullet.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Where his car goes like three inches off the ground,
like shy, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
You might as well know about like the five greatest
volleyball players.
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Of all time? All right?
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Sure, sick?
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I think I'd actually if I went and watched the
volleyball players, I'd be I'd have more reaction than like
any any just seem the same to me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Any entertainment that has to cut for you to get it,
that has to cut to a guy in a director's
chair going, what you have to understand about the time.
Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Is and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Do just a long, long explanation of like that's that
does sound thrilling?
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
People still hadn't gotten used to the idea of cars.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Miles.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Where can people find you? Is there a working media
you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Uh? Yeah, find me everywhere miles of Gray, including Blue Sky.
Check us all out over there, and you can find
Jack and on the basketball podcast Mountain Jack on Mad Boosties.
Find me talking about ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:03:56):
Four to twenty day fiance a Blue Ski, I like,
is from uh at this one over here is, but
but the O and over is a zero.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Uh And they they said this place is big coffee
shop inside a bookstore vibes and I'm here for it.
It's like a very specific You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
if you're kicking it in here that I think. I
think I have an idea of what planet you're from.
Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Yeah, I'm going to make this proposal, and I'm sure
it's happened elsewhere. But I feel like I've I'm not
hearing this as much as I thought I would, which
is Elon doesn't want it. I think we should just
call posts on Blue Sky.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Tweets.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yeah, tweets are things sounds that come out of the skyds.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
He just sues people on Blue Sky for using every
time as I prefer always, Like, are we calling them
skates business? Really right? It's like just because crawl personally,
just because you can be like he me get some
Kleenex or whatever, that doesn't mean it's the brand.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
It's like you just associate the thing. Oh may I
have a facial tissue? Get the fuck out of here,
kleen X.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian
and on Blue Sky at jack ob the number one
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interpreted as Jack oh bone rock Lobster on the discord
like aka, no sorry, Doc Underscore Lobster on the discord
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I did a bad job on pigging my Blue Sky name.
Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I don't given the exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yeah, you should add your ao L dot com address
on there. I give it jackob at a o L
dot com dot dsky dot dot what exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I've been enjoying an account over there called awful Taste
but Great Execution, where they feature photos of things like
somebody who just like completely nailed a glossy nail that
looks like salami, or nails that look like tongues coming
into the tips of their fingers.
Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yeah, this is the perfect time on a social media
thing where you just take shit wholesale from Reddit and
post it on another app as if you're the one
like yeah, an all the way, because that's like so
many content accounts are just like if you're on Ready
or like that was on Reddit earlier. But yeah, that's
a whole subreddit called at b ge awful Taste with
(01:06:40):
great execution.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Okay, I did just right? Is the time I am
catching it now. One of them is like a shag
carpet that looks like they've made it look like crocodile
is emerging from the shag carpet.
Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
It's fucking so rare.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. I
think we're on Blue Sky. We're gonna start posting episodes
and all that shit on Blue Sky pretty soon, where
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post our episodes and our footnote. No we look off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
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Miles of song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
We're going back to the well the djon and McGee. Well,
last time there was a video of that track, Big
MIC's the live version. Well, there's another performance from that
same sort of visual album. This is djon and McGee,
but this is dejons track. It's called talk Down, but
check out the live version because it's super dope too,
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kind of a similar setting. I think the album version
sounds cool, but the live version sounds, in my opinion,
way better, So check it out. It's on YouTube. Djon
talk Down, the live version, check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
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