January 5, 2026 • 55 mins
In this edition of The Invasion Of Trendezuela, Jack and Miles discuss their respective holidays, the last couple of weeks of Trump's antics and war crimes, RIP to MTV, Drake getting sued for being Drake asl, new public domain characters just dropped (feat. Betty Boop, Sam Spade, Nancy Drew, & Ms. Marple) and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Did you watch Did you watch the two of the
did he documentary at all?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Just watch the first two episodes that early focuses on
bad boy death row all of that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's fucking wild. I didn't know how he got his
start with like that whole party ship that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and his mom thrown the parties I
mean but yeah, the his mom used to throw like
basically freak offfs, freak out freak coffs, and he was
there like he was he was always at freakuffs since childhood.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And then like it's crazy too because his dad had
a was like a hustler, went to jail, but his
mom had all the money.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So he grew up rich as fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And but also like this if like a feat private
school kid who wanted to be a gangster so badly
that everything was about overcompensating for like yeah, like he
had this legend of his father to live up too,
sort of.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But his dad wasn't there, so he was just like
kind of making it up.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Does he want best kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, as a kid with a ton of money, with
an absent father and a point to prove, I've seen
I've literally seen this one hundred times.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We're seeing it right now. The White House.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, why what happened? Sure, we're going to catch
you what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I literally I wouldn't even even heard about Venezuela if
Tambo hadn't told me.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
My feeds are completely locked in. I didn't hear shit. Insulated.
I didn't hear shit. It's weird, and now it's a
little concerning. Yeah, where I'm like, okay, you can let
me know about.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, I was pretty insulated till fifteen minutes ago. I'm
trying to cram here.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Guess I thought we were full transparency. I thought Venezuela
was bad.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I didn't even Venezuela was a country. Yeah, I thought
it was somewhere in California.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I thought it was like one of those was that
picture's last name? Fernando Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week trend
edition of Guys.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah that's new. That's new for this year. I'm doing
something new for this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh, that's not just because you're coming out of a
news hibernation and finding everything fucked.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
All right, I'll bite what's Valezuela? Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
January fifth, twenty twenty sixth Happy January sixth eve eve.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes and pre pre Miles House, burned out youth. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulation.
I can't believe how how are you celebrating?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Verbati and I were like, what do we do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Great, dude, Like it feels like we've got to do something.
I think we're just gonna go to ground zero.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, just be like all right, all right, remember remember that.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Remember remember when we lived here.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
The dreams here.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But honestly, like I said on the last episode, it's
you know, all's well, that ends well somehow.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know, if you have a good outlook and you've
got a good group around you, you can get through anything.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But yeah, hey, any suggestions guys for what I should do?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Uh, totally.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I do have when the when the Like when we
were leaving, I had like a like a nugget of
weed that I held I've held onto for a year
because I was so sentimental. I was like, I was like,
this is this is from there, and this is one
of the last if I get high from the before weed.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It sounds like a terrible comedy.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You have like a freaking Friday situation.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, time travel.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I'm just saying didn't you like a nom vet who
has like weed from Nom And you're like, what, dude,
hit that you're back in Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Could be Yeah, remembrance Bondfire. I I have a friend
who's like real good about ceremonies and doing stuff like that,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So bad at that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know me too, things done like two thousand episodes
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I know, sentimentality is not our thing. We got our own,
and we keep going forward and don't talk.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
All right, This is the Monday episode where we tell
you what was trending over the weekend. Usually this is
kind of a long weekend, two weeks of weekend. We
also let you get to know us a little bit
better about telling you some things that we think are overrated, underrated. Yeah,
and let's kick it off with that, myles, What is
(04:49):
something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Underrated? Tiny cans of.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I hosted a family thing, so i've I don't usually
buy soda, but I was like, oh, I gotta I
gotta have soft this season. You know, yeah, it's the season.
You know, you got people who drink, got people who
are sober, like you got to have a mix, you
got to have it all, baby, I'll have little Coca colas,
little sprites, little holiday ranberry spice sprites or whatever the
fuck those are.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But the tiny can, it's the tiny can. My god,
the way I was for me, it's a tiny can.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It got me. It got me. Folks.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
However, because it wasn't, I know, I understand, there's like
this whole thing of like the framing effect, and you know,
like kind of in your mind you're like, oh, well,
it's only a seven and a half ounce can, so
it's like a little can.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Maybe I'll drink nine of them, right.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I didn't do that, which is like kind of like
the sort of dangerous thing about like with like donut
holes too.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I do that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I definitely do an hole time, like am I dude?
Fifteen of these hasspiably was like half of one donut.
So I've had the whole box. It was like maybe
like two.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But the can.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
There was something about the opening a third can in
a row, and I was like, yo, bro shamed, Yeah,
like it just it It's something in my mind, like
you gotta do all this sounds like really Also, because
it's only seven and a half ounces, you go through
that shit quick.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
If you're thirsty. Oh you're like sticks.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I remember the guys shot was like, Daddy, are you
drinking beer? And that's like, oh the way you're putting
those away, man, why do you put them on a
helmet like that? I got to say they were They're fantastic,
They're cute. However, luckily I did not fall victim to
the framing or unit bias trick of like these small things.
Surely because of the sound of opening it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I was like, you you're you're going three cans in
ten minutes? Yeah, easy, easy, and you've had nuts.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I love the die coke version of those because they're
a nice option if you don't really like want to
have a full diet coke, or two of them equal
one of the twenty ounce diet cokes, which is also
you know that twenty ounce like one of the plastic bottles. Yeah,
which gives me a good like stopping point where it's
(07:04):
just like.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Last Jack, that's fifteen ounces. They're eat seven and a
half ounces, so times too. You got fifteen ounces there, baby,
so you actually do it. You're healthier than the twenty
so you should go ahead a third one on there?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Bro here you can you stop down for a second. Yeah,
I'll be right back. I've got a third one five
those to drink from over the third one on and
you're only two and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Ounces over the little limit. So damn. I was doing
that quick maths in my head, quick maries.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, I thought there were ten ounces for some reason.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All right, Well, from your responsible sprite and junk food consumption,
I'm I'm going the other direction, my underrated I got
a couple related to I did. I did a lot
of you know, we we weren't home. We were up
in Mammoth doing a little skiing for a little while,
and then we were down in Florida staying with my parents,
(07:54):
and so a lot of just eating standard whatever the
local groceries or had, and you know, some fast food.
And I will say one thing that I discovered that
I guess I'm not breaking news. As we joined the
recording today, you were like, you're listening to Russian Hacker.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Crazy Russian Hacker one of twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I was because I was behind a kid at Shakeshack
over the break and he took the you know, the
little paper ketchup cups. He took it and just like
expanded it out and do like not even a plate,
like more like a bowl. Get double the ketchup, which
(08:36):
just makes it's a it's a design feature. I had
that they've been keeping secreting this.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I just didn't. So yeah, like he was popping the
seams right like.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, possibly sees a little bit and like it expands
out so you can like keep the integrity of it.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like it's meant.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's almost like it's meant to do that, which I
didn't realize.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So wait, hold on, wait, what what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You were behind a kid at ship at the context
here like at the ketchup pumps and ketchup pump.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I thought you were just lurking around a shake shack
and you're like, and here's this kid and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I'm taking my notes.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Kid, I was following around, Hey, what.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Do you do? Whould you learn that crazy rush? You
knew some ship?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, but I like those things are so small you
get like three dips usually so too.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't know. This really fucking blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm also given an underrated too from from my previously
mentioned like you grocery shopping, uh, toastedos doritos, any snack
chip with a eedo because if it's got an, I'm winning.
The food Corporation spent loads of money on R and
R on the chips, and I don't know, I think
(09:51):
I think they what about the because.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's a pretty straightforward, stort forward.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But whatever chemical they're spraying on that ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
get the job done for me.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, whatever Dow Chemicals came up with to to compete
with MSG.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, they're like, we're not doing that. That's for Asians.
Here's our America Flavor spray.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, and the integrity for when you're you're dipping into
salsa and the salsa. We'll get into the salsa because
that's my overrated But I just I like thinking about what,
Like it's the thing with like Cola, Ketchup and Candy
have been the ones that I've always felt like the
(10:33):
best selling brands are usually the best, Like they are
hard to be Like you get a small batch of
Cola and for me, it's never as good as catch up.
I've not yet had a ketch Up that can compete
with Hines fifty seven and candy, Like we we had
(10:55):
some like Sour Candy over the break that we picked
up and it was like, you know, some local brand,
and I was like, what are we doing? This is
fucking like it's like leaving residue in my mouth and ship.
It's like so I just like to think of that
division of like because usually corporation takes over the making
of a food, Like they discover somebody making good food,
(11:19):
take over the creation of that and fuck it up
so bad.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, Like someone was talking I don't drink any more,
but someone was talking about a beer that they liked
and then it got taken over by corporation and then
like it was just suddenly bad and like that's usually
how food works. But there are a handful of things
that I just want to give a tip of my
cap tops that are fucking poisoning us.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
To say, you six shout out Doritos, Yeah, shut out.
But I'm curious, like do other people agree with that?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Is it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Do corn chips belong in the cola ketchup candy?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do all four? Do those three? I love them? M
it depends.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, tortilla chips are kind of like snack chips.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think are a little bit different than tortilla chips
from me.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean, I guess totedos because it's part of that
like Freedo lay Empire, Like have a chip the look
like the stuff that we have is good.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yes, it's got a little bit of soy sauce on there,
just a little bit that might.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Have a Chips are good, they're they're any small containers
that make you the bag. The bag is the bag
is if it was like the small sprite can equivalent
of snack chips, Like it's like, are you fucking with me?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Like I saw that this immediately.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
When I see that, I'm about to fight a drug
dealer based on how like the bag looks, because I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
How much is this?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The bag is a third of the way full, like
and you're not even doing the thing like where it's
like it's spilled up with a lot of air to
keep it, like from getting crushed. If you put a
bag of habit chips in the wrong way in a grocery.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Might keep corn chips out out of this category. But
I am curious to hear from people, like what what
are their categories of? Like the things that have just
been perfected by the corporations and we're just done, We're
done trying other stuff. We're just like, all right, we'll
give you this one, because anything like potato chips are
(13:15):
not this for me, potato chips. I like some different,
you know, small batched potato chip.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You know, corporate is king. Basically I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Think corporate is king for potato chips.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
But no, no, no, you know although if you look though,
so many of them, just like beer, are being by just.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Get bought up. Yeah, yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's that was my underrated shout out to Freedo. Lay
I guess I made a millionaires? What what something you
think is overrated?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Overrated?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Gen z jen Alpha music conspiracy theories. Okay, this is
the problem when when we were doing it, there was
no Internet, so you could say whatever and it was believable.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
For as long as you needed it to be believable.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I recently stumbled upon this conspiracy theory about a rapper
named s D Kid, and everyone was like, this is
Timothy shallow May, This is actually Timimothy, Like this is yes,
that SD Kid is actually Timothy shallow May exactly because
he always wears a sisty or a bally a balaclava
(14:24):
as they called it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
The UK and look, I'll give it to them.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
The eyebrow region is very similar because people were going
side by side with like dune pics.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
They're going side by side.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
When Timothy Schallamey was on SNL playing that like SoundCloud
rapper wearing the sisty and he was only showing a
little bit of his face, p were like, this is
the exact same eye and bridge of nose brow pattern.
Now if you just go a little bit deeper, right
aside from just using the most superficial like sort of
evidence to be like this is Timothy Shallomey. Have you
(14:56):
listened to the music at all, because this rapper is
clearly from Liverpool. I'm not like you know, you're saying
he can't do accents Jack in a way where I
thought I was listening to goddamn Bob.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Dylan when I watch that movie, Dude, it's Dan and
nobody can do a Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's so Jack. I'm gonna I want to just play you, Okay,
hold on. This is this track. It's called four Raws.
This is like one of the biggest parts. I'm gonna
just play this one part where he sounds so the
accent is called scouse. They're called scousers out there. This
accent is so scouse. I'm like, if tim if this
is Timothy shallow May, he needs a fucking Academy award
just for this side project.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, that's definitely Timothy.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's they go, that's Timothy shallow May. I'm like, come
the fuck on, y'all. And then but this is the
genius part. Timothy shallow May then did a remix of
this track four raws with SD Kid and put out
a video right before the Christmas break And so.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
That's doing the video.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's why I saw that going viral on Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, And then yeah, they're like, yo, Toothy, he's nice,
and like, no, he's not. He's not, you guys, the
bar is subterranean for celebrities rap.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Just let him be a surprisingly knowledgeable sports fan.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
We don't need to be like. And he's also they
likes to rap. I'll give it to him, you know
what I mean, he likes to rap. I encourage that.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But like, for there are people who are like, dude,
this is a goo whoa Timothy gotta be shall ma?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So I just come on for for the people who
I get you love the idea of it, but there
were so I saw so many videos being like, yo,
just got their Twitter accounts are operating from the same location.
They found all of these like weird sort of like
overlapping things. But to me, it doesn't pass that your test.
Timothy Shalome I heard his accent and that he did
(16:47):
an English accent recently in one film, was like, Bro,
this ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Come on right and he's not hit no conspiracy. First
of all, I do think he has one of those
faces back to the just brass tacks of this conspiracy theory.
I feel like he like they did that lookalike contest
in New York City and you could have killed Timothy
shall then replaced him with twenty of those people, and
(17:12):
I would I would have been like, Yep, there there
goes Timothy show. You know, like, uh, I just feel
like sometimes people have faces that like I feel like
I see once a day around Los Angeles and then
you you made reference to our music conspiracy theories? Can
you you draw like I mean obviously there was like
Tupac still alive.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, I'm talking about stuff like that like easily, Like
I remember like in the Kluminati album, Uh, there was
like the or sorry Macavelly album. It starts off people
that I said, Chuke shot Tupac. There's like a part
where you thought you heard Shoke shot Tupac and that
was enough for years, moving on that for years. I
(17:53):
lived on that up until maybe four weeks ago when
I saw the Diddy documentary right and I.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Said, what Diddy documentaries like? They go hard the other way,
They're like, dude, he got to pocul. I haven't heard that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Face growing up, and assumed I.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Heard that too, But in my mind there was There
was pretty clearly a moment where said chokes Tupac and
that was enough. That was enough for me, and just
other stuff like or even like the Chris Gaines of
it all, you know when we had when when Garth
Brooks went out as another thing it was it was
so clear but enough that you're like, oh, this is
fun and the other means I guess more just more
(18:31):
like the other kinds of conspiracy theories you would hear,
which are just like salacious celebrity rumors, surely word of
mouth that had no way to be vetted in any
any conceivable way to know, Like I don't know about
Richard Gear and a bunch of gerbils.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I was just thinking, like so many of the ones
that I remember are are based on like homophobic, just
like rumors about male celebrities or Lil Kim. There's impossible
amounts of semen in their sewing.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Or did you okay remember the rapper Little Flip Uh huh?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
There was one that they said Low Flip had aids. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, there was I think kaya all you ladies pop
yo pussy like this, they say she had aids.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
There was just like people who were wild terrible. I mean,
I guess ours weren't better.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Because we were twelve year old boys just being like
the act like that.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
She probably got probably got aids. Yeah, oh dudes.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, Marilyn Manson having his rib removed to sug his
own dick.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I think that was.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
There were a couple of those, right, I feel like
Marilyn Manson had that. Rod Stewart had the stomach pump.
But then I actually looked into that one and there
were like a bunch of different people who had the
stomach pump theory new kids on the block. There was
one one of those that ran rampant through my elementary school.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, they found Semen in one of their butts from
one of the other new kids.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
This is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
This is what the This is the kind of ship
they were saying about Kaya that she was murdered after
she gave HIV to her husband.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Come on, this is just bad, bad stuff, actually terrible.
We're so broken.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Therese are better man, Timothy is actually Timothy Shallow.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, I don't we don't need to be lying on
the start.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's like a more benevolent Paul is dead. They're not
even killing anyone, They're just like that person is straight
up destroying people. My apologies. Look you're doing great, Jenn Alpha,
all right, my overrated one.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I went to see.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Avatar, Avatar Fire, Iron Home, Avatar, Fire and Ash and
they started the previews thirty minutes after the start time
that was listed on the thing.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It was just ads for.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Thirty started thirty minutes after the So it's a twelve
o'clock show. The previews start at.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Twelve thirty, yes, and just adds the whole time up
until then. Unbelievable. This is was a Regal cinema in Florida.
So I don't know if this is what we're headed for,
but we need We talked last year about how there
was like some legislation that was being proposed for you know,
the movie time has to be has to list when
(21:25):
the movie actually starts to like when you know, give
me two movie times, give me boarding time and you
know the take off time. Yeah, yeah, we need that
ship stat. I think they showed the same. Maybe they
showed that Jennifer Gardner ed where she's like flying all
over the world multiple times and uh yeah, just the
(21:48):
tostito salsa, I gotta say, do do not lump that
in with with my toastino shandem because that shit is
I was news to you. No, but it's also the
only salsa. Like we need more salsa options, like every
at at the like Kroger Von you know those type
(22:09):
of grocery chains like they yeah, that ship. The big
brand salsas are horrendous.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
That's like the one time you could say, Yo Corporate
is not king with the salsas.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The salsas are if you recognize the name, run as
far as you can.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just like tomato paste and onion slivers, Like that's
all you're getting in there is fucked up.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's like ragu before they put the other seasonings in
it to make it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Like oh no, no, don't put that regno in yet because
that's ragoo. Bottle that up. That's Thsteda's salsa. That's right.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, there's and and pretzels. I would say also in
this category of like you the the big brand pretzels,
they're not like horrendous, but like you can get some
good get some good, local local pretzels, like a hollowed
out pretzel where it's just like the brown crunchy on
the outside. You ever have those, No, Yeah, they're doing
(23:07):
with pretzel technology. It's like yeah, it's like a it's
like Riga Toni but it's like yeah, just just the
crunchy outer and then like a little bit of inner.
But it's it's nice. I highly recommend. All Right, That's
that's where we're at. We're gonna take a quick break
and we're gonna come back and talk about all the
(23:29):
news that's been happening for the past two weeks. We'll
be back, and we are back. We're back, and I
guess we got to just like catch up with what
(23:49):
Donald Trump was doing over the holidays, right like this,
This motherfucker a busy, busy holiday season.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
There is his health. There is his Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Even going to get into his health, but that appears
to beating.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Ideas.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And he's got ideas about his own medical care. Too
long may that last?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Can't tell me how many asks for him to take.
I'll take take as many, ass but I want my
blood thinner than Sean Paul go tee hair. All right,
but uh, as expected the Epstein files, I mean not
as not on time, but that mon files did drop.
Uh and just bricks and bricks of black ink yeah,
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uh everywhere, just yeah, so many redactions as expected.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Like it was like the memes everyone was posting was
you know, like everyone predicted were like you're just gonna
see big black blocks, like and they're gonna just say
that's a page of it, and we did and images. Uh.
It was a really fucking one of the wildest rollouts
of information also because like it was so poorly done,
Like you know, people were just copying and pasting text
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from these PDF files and they were just highlighting stuff
black so you could unhighlight stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Was that true?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Like That's what the other thing is that I'm still
like digging myself out from. I feel like there was
so much misinformation around it too, uh huh, Like there's
like photos that turned out not to be true. There's
a lot of shit, but yeah, allegedly like you could
see you could just copy they didn't pay for like
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the upgraded Adobe pdf. Yeah, and so it was just
they blacked it out, but you could still copy and
paste it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know, this is this is not this is this
wasn't like misinformation. This was straight up buffoonery. Other people
were like, damn is this Like was this intentional? People
to be like, yeah, it's reducted, but go ahead, you
might find some dark shit out. Then there was just
like the wild accusations that were just everything.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, they put a picture of Michael Jackson Diana ross
In in there like and implied that it was at
Epstein's home and it was.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was like some fundraiser or something, the fundraiser.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, they were putting well then also like
the selective like whoa look at all these pictures that
just came out.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It's all Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Huh yeah, And people were like what the fuck, Like
it was so transparent that they were trying to just
be like and it's all Bill Clinton, guys. No, don't
even ask about Donald Trump. And then Bill Clinton was like,
release the files.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Then it was like, oh fuck, all right, uh cause
I think like I.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Th unredact those files.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, for anyone who is not a Republican.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
People were like, yeah, dude, get his Drag his ass
out too, Drag this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Drag everyone's fucking ass out into the light. That's the
deal here. Yeah, got Winnie the Pooh. Where the fuck
was that? Man?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean it's like dark, but like I think he
took one of his victims to Disneyland, and so there's
a picture. He was the most photographed, was meticulous and
photographing every fucking day of his life. It seems like
every every time he was with a new person. But yeah,
there's a picture of him with Winnie the Pooh, which
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had to have been fun for Winnie the Poo's pr team.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh of course. Yeah. Yeah. They had to explain that
he was not on the flight logs, but he actually was.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
If you look closely, Winnie the Pooh's there with Winnie
the poos.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Fucked up, dude, Yeah, just like it's the other things too.
Is you really realize it got worse for Trump too?
Like it wasn't just like, oh, take all this stuff
out about Trump, like this stuff where he's mentioned You're like, oh,
it sounds like mar A Lago.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Was like the nexus. Yeah, like a lot of a
lot of dark shit was being ran out of mar
A Lago, not in the files.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But Marjorie Taylor Green did say that when she like
Theabstein files were the big divider between the two of them.
The New York Times did a big interview with her,
and at one point Trump shouted that that epsteam files
are going to hurt my friends.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh my friends.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean that's so that's a direct evidence, say, if
we're taking it, or we're this direct evidence of a
cover up by Trump to protect the wealthy sexual predators
that run uh run the world. Yeah yeah, yeah, that
means to be taking down as part of his uh
according to his Q disciples.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I feel like you've got so much direct evidence.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I know, it's fucking wild.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Just is his administration.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
There's nothing to see here, there's something to see here,
there's no there's nothing to go off of to prosecute
anyone further. Maybe there is, but it's Bill Clinton, who
forget about Donald Trump? Oh wait, why is this stuff
for dactad. Okay, we'll just invade Venezuela. But there's a
lot of dark shit. There's one talking about Donald Trump
and Lake Michigan and uh it's wild. Also, Interlock in
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Arts can is like a performing arts camp that like
I struggled to get into because I was a really
serious trumpet player as a kid. I didn't really Jeffrey
Epstein had a whole lodge there at this children at
this fucking performing arts camp in fucking Michigan. There's just
I was just going through casually through some stuff because
like different websites would bubble up things based on what
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they were sort of interested in or what they covered.
And when I saw that, I was like looking at
like local Michigan News and I saw this thing about Interlock, and.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I was like Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Anyway, So Rocanna and Thomas Massey obviously aren't giving up
because they they missed the deadline. Then they also had
a deadline to explain, like why was so heavily redacted.
That was January third, Like I said, that's when they said, oops,
we Venezuela. But Thomas Massey and Rocanna they said they
are going to seek to hold Pam Bondi in contempt
of Congress, and are also like, we want to see
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the real shit quote This is from I believe Rocanna
said quote. We want to see the survivor's statements to
the FBI. Were they name other rich and powerful men
who abused them or who covered up the crimes? And
we want to see the draft prosecution memos which explained
why many many men were involved in the cover up
and abuse.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That would be bad for my friends, that would be
bad for.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Buddies. Yes, good buddy, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And then he spent Christmas Eve talking to children on
the phone Donald Trump, which was like fuck up, yeah,
so weird, informing them that the government tracks Santa in
order to ensure that he hasn't been infiltrated.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
That was a weird moment.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He also asked this kid what they wanted, and they
he wanted a kindle, and He's like, good, we need
high IQ.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
What do you want from Santa. Laney's on the phone
in the corner.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well that's a hard one for.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Me, Julia spin it out. Oh, well that's pretty good.
You must be a high IQ person. We need more
hush scrubbed, so we definitely need more high IQ.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Just just like slow push into Milania, completely turned away
on I don't know if that's a call or she's
pretending to be on a call.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
She's on a call over there being like why should
I give a fuck about Christmas?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah? The fuck them is what I say.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, it was such an odd things, just like it's
bad to put Donald Trump in this state in like
long uncut video segments.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, or you're truly just like, oh boy, you're just
that Uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I make sure that he's not infiltrated, that we're not
infiltrating into our country. A bad Santa who we found
out that Santa is good, Santa loves you, Santa loves Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like I do what? Yeah? Yeah, Brian the editor makes
it a good point.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's just a bad look at Trump talking to children
generally given everything.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, I think they were trying to steer it, like
be like that this guy, he's no, they're like get
steering into the what's your name argument, the Megan Kelly
argument where she's like, these are children. Now, the people
that he's in those pictures with.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Those are hot teens. Those are just hot teens. Guys.
Please lady, what are you fucking talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Uh? And then New Year's Oh God, Benjamin net and
Yahoo at mar A Lago for a New Year's Eve party, Uh,
that featured both Vanilla Ice and Michael Angelo from the
Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Did you see there's one there's like a like a
joke Chiopi account that's just like it's like it tweets
as if it's like a conservative but it's a great
one where they had a photo of Vanilla Ice on
stage with Michael Angelo and it said there's nothing better
than watching the Godfather of Rap Vanilla Ice Cube ringing
the New Year at mar A Lago with one of
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the actual Ninja Turtle.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Men, like in Ninja Turtle Men put it had all
the hits Giuliani, My Pillow, CEO, Mike Lindell, Janine Piro,
fact that Netanya who's there, like party ended up Stephen
Miller christin Nome.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's I mean, it just shows how just the utter
lack of acknowledgment of just law and order too, of
just being like, yeah, man, we've probably fucking roll out
the red carpet for this war criminal and he kicks
it with me and other war criminal and we just.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Act like, go and check this boot. We're watching the
Ninja Turtleman breakdance to Ice Ice Baby.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's it's just like it's in that there's an account
that I've made reference to that's like future Adam Curtis
b Roll, like the guy who made Hypernormalization and those things,
and like has a very good eye for just like
weird dystopic moment from our past. But it's just like
our entire reality. It has just become that. It's just
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everywhere you look. You can't avoid Vanilla Ice and Michael
Angelo on stage as Benjamin Netta, who like fails to
dance in the audience. And so, as you mentioned, on
the eve of the DOJ's deadline to explain its redactions
in the Epstein Files, Trump and the CIA invaded Venezuela,
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captured Maduro and his wife, let him wear a Nike
Tech jumpsuit the sweatsuits that look pretty cool, and allegedly
immediately sold out and charged them with weapon and drug
offenses in New York. Yeah, and he's now claiming the
US will now run the country while giving American oil
companies the green light to move in and like he
(34:47):
has basically at a press conference, been like if we
did for the oil what you talking about?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, they got it that oil there, and it's it's
unfair what happened that that could have been ours?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Should that's ours now? Ye, they will run the country.
Uh huh. That usually works.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, I mean it sounds like the you know, now
the vice president who is now president of Venezuela's like, uh, no.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Right, we are not going to be a colony.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And he was saying he Trump's response to that was
that she should get in line or something bad might
happen to her, maybe even worse than a duro. Yeah,
Jesus Christ. And he's also been like, We're going to
do this again and again. Who literally I think he said,
who can stop us? We have to do it again.
We can do it again too. Nobody can stop us,
(35:41):
was what he said to Fox News. Yeah again, just
like no more. I remember, like I studied in Ireland
for a semester and like took an international relations course
and it was like, oh, oh, we're the Like one
of the videos they showed us was the Panama Invasion,
like a documentary about the pan invasion that you know,
(36:01):
we're hearing a lot about because that was the last
time that we openly invaded a country in the region,
and that time it was also like about covering up
like a narrative. Poppy Bush, George W. Bush's dad was
the president, and like people were like, he's weak, he's
a weakling, he's a sissy, and so he you know,
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a former head of the CIA, and as the CIA does,
they went in. But it's just like that back then,
it was like sort of an undercover thing and it
will get out on social like we'll see footage of
what this attack looked like from the ground. They killed
forty people, including civilians like an eighty year old woman.
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I will just say that I listened to the New
York Times podcast about this The Daily, and they really.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Went hard, went hard against the empire.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
They very much create it like they're getting the TikTok,
Like it's like listening to an episode of Action Boys,
like John Gabris's action movie Potsting. No, because because they're
just like so into the details of like they're like,
you know, how the CIA had Maduro wired. Basically they
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use they like infiltrated his inner circle and like knew
where he was going to be at all times. And
then you know, the helicopter didn't kill forty people, including civilians.
They returned fire on those civilians.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh sure, very much.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
This is the like capture of Osama bin Laden like
style of being like, and then they had to do
this and then be able to replace the home of
the home they were going to invade it, right.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
The precision, so much precision, guys.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
But yeah, I think that's a way for them to
avoid talking about the fact that it's like, clearly a
war crime.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Clearly war crime, clearly illegal. You don't you didn't use
your congress Hello. Hello, But again this is the Hello
administration where they're like, what the fuck is a what
is anything? Yeah, it's I mean, like the propaganda you
already see from like just American media, Like you really
see how fully fully captured American media is too, or
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like they're just they're pushing a lot of They're like
Venezuelan's Rejoice stuff like, well, some might not be.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
They'll put these very selective videos.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Some people are like in America, you're like, hello, what
are okay? Sure, try and present this image as if
they But I think to me that it's such classic
empire and decline shit we're doing. Like, I just hate
how history is so fucking spot on. From time immemorial,
(38:50):
every fucking empire in decline does this last gasp shit
of micro militarism, not full blown wars, just a little
violent treat you can have as a fading empire as
you try to convince yourself you're not in it your
own death throws, which the American Empire clearly is. Spain
did this in the nineteenth century. England, Frans, fucking everybody
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does this shit when the empire is cooked, and it
sends you further into ruin your more resources go to
fight wars that are meaningless that only come back in
the form of further degradation of your population in your country.
As we're seeing now, we are completely not supporting human
life in the United States and we're only supporting more
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military industrial complex nonsense, or the fucking fossil fuel industry
and things like that. So you know, we're going to
waste dollars in lives to help some senil asshole and
is like band of flunkies feel like they are big
and powerful. They are cowards hiding behind the absurd contradiction
that is American power, which is on one hand, you
(39:53):
act like you are the leader of the fucking free
world and stand for the oppressed, well just being the
actual oppressor and then being hyper selective when defining what
a quote evil regime is or what quote mass atrocities
are or what quote weapons of mass destruction is.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
So yeah, I don't know. I mean like it's just this.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Is disgusting of like decades, almost a century of the CIA,
you know, being a major force of you know, narco
terrorism in these countries, you know, funding it, being behind it,
and essentially like causing the problems that they then go
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in and blow people up to solve allegedly.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, it's like it's the Homer quote about beers. What
America is the cause of and solution to all of
life's problems is how they look at it. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, like, Dug, open up a history
book and with empires in decline do because we're we're
playing it right to the script, you know, right right
down to the minute.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Just like reading about did did you read that article
about Rubio's background with the CIA? Like, hey, well, I'll
dig into it on a future episode. But it's just
like reading about the CIA's history of like covert actions
everywhere in the world is just like, oh man, all
all these conspiracies are true.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
It's it's so bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
And and the CIA is like the police, bro, they
have the worst record of regime change. Look at every
fucking like right wing overthrow that the CIA is backed.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's like, and yeah, how that work helped the people?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
No, it helped, It helped very specific Well, that's definitely
a financial goal, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
About Usually it's secretly about uh, you know, getting access
to the resources bananas, fruit, uh, drugs and you know,
controlling those for the US. But in this case, it's
openly about that.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
So that's happening. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And and I mean god, it's like it's truly like,
I mean, nothing can stop us. We're all the way
up because the UN Security Council, where maybe there could
be some kind of repercussions being doled out, the US
can just be like on us.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, the US gets to veto any repercussions.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
So like it's tough. I think, and this is now.
I mean I think this is now.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You look at the other countries, like, especially after the
shit he's saying, like maybe Mexico maybe Columbia. All these
people are like and do what right, Like, none of
these countries are cowering.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
These people.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
These they have a very clear idea of like what
American medaling looks like, and no one's being like, oh, yes,
you guys are. So they're just like, excuse, what the
what the fuck are you saying you're gonna come up
in here now?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
No, they might fuck around and get themselves into an
actual war, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Like the US will yet. I mean again, this is
just all we have.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
The economy is fading, and you have the Epstein files,
you have so many real things to really handle here,
and they're just going with the time on or distraction
of some kind of stupid military crusade.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, he's now flat out saying he needs Greenland, and
Steven Miller's wife tweeted out a photo of Greenland covered
with the American flag, So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I mean, this is just gonna bro, this is just
gonna a fucking nuclear arms race. Is probably just gonna
take right back up now. Because if it's back to
they're like, these motherfuckers might just pull.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Up on you.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
They're gonna be like, you know, North Korea they managed
to keep They kept that bang on him and they
did countries at Bay.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know, uh, seems bad.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Seems like we're heading into a very dangerous time of
unrest and war and we're the bad.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Guys so always have been. Baby who let's take a
quick break.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
We'll be right back, and we're back, and let's talk
about some other shit that went down. Yeah, we were hibernating, Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Dude, rip to make MTV MTV well, not like the
regular MTV channel that doesn't play music videos anymore, the
one that was their twenty four hour music video channel
went off the air, and the sign off for the
twenty four music video channel the last video they played
video killed the Radio Star. So they they they bookended
(44:26):
the entire birth and death of twenty four hour music
television channel with that music video?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Was that what they opened with? Yeah? Yeah, that was
the first music video played on MTV. Damn called shot
on that one.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah yeah, So my millennial heart felt a small pain
just because, like MTV is such. That was really when
we had monoculture like at its height, and you're like,
I don't know what's MTV saying because that's like where
the that's where the that's where the youth is fucking
saying stuff about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Let's tab with the sore ins take.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, but anyway, the regular channel remains, but twenty four
hour music video channel, it's goodbye, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
What were they playing for? Like, had you watched it
was the last time you watched the twenty.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Maybe randomly when I had cable when I go what,
I'm just curious, like what that last point?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's just all music videos, yeah, the whole time. Uh yeah,
I don't know. I'm it's because you still.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Make music videos. I guess you for YouTube.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah yeah, and but also like it's stuff, so you know,
it's for like the TikTok generation. It's just like it's
not the kind of stuff that's made for broadcast television.
It's not made to be consumed on TV anymore. Yeah,
but we'll miss you. MTV was once cool. Shout out yo,
MTV raps. Those like one of the reliable places for
somebody in the Midwest to like find out about cool
(45:45):
red music. Yeah, oh is that you were like, please
please please yow MTV raps.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Let me know.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, I I need ed Lubber and the other doctor
Dre to help me with know what's going on, all right.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
We also have an update on Drake Ray pray H
in a lawsuit was filed over the break. He was
accused of taking part in an illegal gambling operation. So
Steak that company that he gets paid like one hundred
million dollars A yeah, something I've seen, and yet still
managed to like be mad at them for like freezing
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his account, Like that's because he's ago he is at gambling. Yeah,
he's blown through one hundred mil a year. But the
other issue is that Steak, via a bunch of like
loopholes that sound like they were made up by me
and not somebody with like an understanding of law, was
trying to operate in states where online gambling is illegal,
(46:45):
Like I think Virginia is one where you're like not
allowed to do online gambling. They're like, well, you're not
because you're actually gambling with Steaks bucks that are then
redeemable for real money.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
I have a one to one value to US dollar.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
But the very interesting part of the rico is that
it goes on to say that he specifically used his
money that he gained from this legal gambling operation to
fund bot farms that inflated his listening numbers artificially and illegally,
making like they kind of ether him in the thing,
like they say that wholly unregulated money transmitter. The lawsuit
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ads financed another defendant's promotion of Steak, as well as
a campaign to artificially boost drake streams and quote fabricate popularity,
disparage competitors and music label executives, distort recommendation algorithms. The
scheme the lawsuit alleges is carried out on platforms such
as Spotify and Quote has suppressed authentic artists and narrowed consumers'
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access to legitimate content.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Throw, that's crazy. What was you? Didn't you have a lawsuit, Drake?
Didn't you weren't you accusing somebody of bot farms and
stuff and how inflating numbers? And wasn't that Kendrick Lamar, there's.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Just a certain type of psycho who like can't see
the world any other way than how it appears to him,
you know. And so he's taken advantage of like bot farming.
Everyone else must be is his theory of the case.
But yeah, that was that was so funny when he
tried to claim Kendrick was bot farming.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's how not Like Us?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
So where like not Like Us was the most omnipresent
song I think of my life. I don't think I've
ever heard a song just more uniformly popular, played by
everyone everywhere, coming out of like every third car that
I passed.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
It didn't even matter the context. It was like, it's
the hottest song. I remember being at a funeral and
I did say a eulogy, and they're like, do you
want to come out to not Like Us? When you speak?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I was like, I don't know if that's a.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But they're like, okay, people love it though, people just
love vote it. You want us to, we'll have it
ready if just give us a signal and we'll go
much it on the beat. Help and then you can
do your thing, sir, do your thing.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
That's just so.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Wild that just the idea that all of this is
wrapped up into Drakes, that potentially this is like Drake
sort of his whole operation.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
It's like this gambling thing plus bot farming.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's the thing about these algorithms, man Like, just just
as easily as like they can bubble things up to you,
they clearly can be manipulated.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
By flooding the fucking zone. Flood the zone with shit.
Yeah bro. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Anyway, I also feel the fact the fact that the
lawsuit went as hard as they did, Like I just
feel like he's like the easiest person to rhetorically beat
the shit out in the world. Like everybody's just like
get a licking as quickly as they can. Yeah, but
whenever they get a swing.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
That would be so wild if that this, if this
was true and he was really patting the numbers that much,
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Curious what always. So here's here's the things that lead
me to believe he was always like everywhere in those
like Spotify algorithms. You know, I pay attention to those
like top hundred streaming charts on like Apple Music and
Spotify for for this show, just like get a sense
of like what people are listening to. He's always like
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overrepresented there in a way that I was like, God,
damn man, people really fuck with Drake. But he also
like changed how he made like he started releasing albums
with like thirty songs on it because he knew that
that actually would inflate and like help, Like, so he's
(50:33):
already changing the integrity of his artistic output. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, to be fair, I'd say, to be fair, the
labels are also they understand the game too. But he
definitely to your point, he's definitely like he's not an
artist first. He's like a business person first. So in
that sense, he's like, I don't want to write lyrics,
I'll have somebody else write them. I get to perform them.
And then also if there's a way to get to
(51:03):
gameless system for my albums, I guess I'll do that.
But that just became a that just sort of became
so widespread at that point. But maybe he was the
goddemsee of all of that. It's just a I mean,
I know what you mean, Like I think I wonder
if maybe that's why Not Like Us blew up so
much too. Is sort of this sort of built in
exhaustion from an ever omnipresent Drake. And then someone was like, man,
(51:26):
just like sort of piercing that bubble and people are like, yeah, yeah, fuck,
get shit out of here. Because I think most of
the engine for the popularity of Not Like Us was
the distaste for Drake. It wasn't really because Kendrick Lamar.
I mean, he became like diametrically opposed, and people selected
Kendrick Lamar were like, oh, actually, fuck with this guy.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
But it was also because it like it gave you
a reason, like, man, I'm fucking done with Drake.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a really good point that, like,
by artificially like putting him in front of us, well
when like he didn't, it wasn't necessarily driven by interest.
He built up this bubble of people who were just
ready to be like, yeah, for for it to.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Pop on not like us. Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
And finally, something that happened on New Year's Day, Betty Boop,
Nancy Drew Blondey, not the not the album, but the
old old ass cartoon, enter the public domain.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Welcome to the public domain, y'all.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Get ready for some weird ass movies, just like we
did what was that, Winnie the Pooh.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Winnie the Pooh, We've done Steamboat, Willie the Mickey Old
Nicky Mouse, Yeah, yeah, yeah, predecessor Mickey Mouse. Everybody's like
Mickey Mouse is already in the public domain. It's like
that first drawing where he doesn't really look like Mickey
the Mouth, Mickey the Mouse, as I call him.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
If the original Mickey the Mice is here tonight, folks
with the turtlemen.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
But they're doing their thing and have already green little
low budget horror movie about Betty Boop that looks Yeah,
I mean it's just the same shit. It's like a
killer in a Betty boot mask. Yeah, stocking people which
do great. Yeah, those other ones did pretty well. You
make it for sixty thousand dollars, you make a million, guys.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
It's right there, it's right there.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
I mean, it's not really transgressive to like have a
like Winnie the Pooh is a kid's character. Mickey Mouse
is like one of the most famous kids characters. Betty
Boop was like a sex symbol for people at a
time when they didn't have anything to jerk off too,
and so they're like, you, we took off the cartoons.
(53:35):
Have you heard that one chick O poop poop by doop?
Yeah yeah yeah. Also for people who like really big heads.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
She using both hemispheres.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Fam also entering the public domain, we got three iconic detectives.
Sam Spade from Maltese Falcon, Oh wow, Nancy Drew for
Nancy Drew Books, Yeah, and uh Agatha Christie's first Miss
Marple novels, which it's.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
A bit of a blad spot for me. The kids
have been dying for the first Miss Marple.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
You'll get that Sam Stage shit out here, man, Sam
Speed is a fucking public domain.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
My new rapper name Bro, my first album Maltese Falcon
dropping soon.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Speaking of shit, the kids are clamoring for. Also, as
I lay dying, William Faulkner Jay. So far no one's
announced a new movie about horny camp counselors being hacked
to death by a bunch of impoverished Southerners, created by
William Faulkner. Not yet, not yet, It's coming, all right.
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Those are some of the things that are trending on
this Monday, January fifth. We are back tomorrow morning with
a wholest episode of the show. We'll be back next
week with another Icons episode. Ye until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourself, get your vaccines
where you still can get your flu shots, don't do
nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
By The Daily Zeite guys As Executive produced by Catherine Law.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Co produced by Bee Wayne, co produced by Victor Wright
Speaker 6 (55:22):
Co written by j M McNabb and edited and engineered
by Brian Jefferies.
Did you watch Did you watch the two of the
did he documentary at all?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Just watch the first two episodes that early focuses on
bad boy death row all of that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's fucking wild. I didn't know how he got his
start with like that whole party ship that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and his mom thrown the parties I
mean but yeah, the his mom used to throw like
basically freak offfs, freak out freak coffs, and he was
there like he was he was always at freakuffs since childhood.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And then like it's crazy too because his dad had
a was like a hustler, went to jail, but his
mom had all the money.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So he grew up rich as fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And but also like this if like a feat private
school kid who wanted to be a gangster so badly
that everything was about overcompensating for like yeah, like he
had this legend of his father to live up too,
sort of.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But his dad wasn't there, so he was just like
kind of making it up.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Does he want best kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, as a kid with a ton of money, with
an absent father and a point to prove, I've seen
I've literally seen this one hundred times.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We're seeing it right now. The White House.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, why what happened? Sure, we're going to catch
you what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I literally I wouldn't even even heard about Venezuela if
Tambo hadn't told me.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
My feeds are completely locked in. I didn't hear shit. Insulated.
I didn't hear shit. It's weird, and now it's a
little concerning. Yeah, where I'm like, okay, you can let
me know about.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, I was pretty insulated till fifteen minutes ago. I'm
trying to cram here.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Guess I thought we were full transparency. I thought Venezuela
was bad.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I didn't even Venezuela was a country. Yeah, I thought
it was somewhere in California.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I thought it was like one of those was that
picture's last name? Fernando Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week trend
edition of Guys.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah that's new. That's new for this year. I'm doing
something new for this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh, that's not just because you're coming out of a
news hibernation and finding everything fucked.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
All right, I'll bite what's Valezuela? Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
January fifth, twenty twenty sixth Happy January sixth eve eve.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes and pre pre Miles House, burned out youth. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulation.
I can't believe how how are you celebrating?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Verbati and I were like, what do we do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Great, dude, Like it feels like we've got to do something.
I think we're just gonna go to ground zero.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, just be like all right, all right, remember remember that.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Remember remember when we lived here.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
The dreams here.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But honestly, like I said on the last episode, it's
you know, all's well, that ends well somehow.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know, if you have a good outlook and you've
got a good group around you, you can get through anything.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But yeah, hey, any suggestions guys for what I should do?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Uh, totally.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I do have when the when the Like when we
were leaving, I had like a like a nugget of
weed that I held I've held onto for a year
because I was so sentimental. I was like, I was like,
this is this is from there, and this is one
of the last if I get high from the before weed.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It sounds like a terrible comedy.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You have like a freaking Friday situation.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, time travel.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I'm just saying didn't you like a nom vet who
has like weed from Nom And you're like, what, dude,
hit that you're back in Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Could be Yeah, remembrance Bondfire. I I have a friend
who's like real good about ceremonies and doing stuff like that,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So bad at that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know me too, things done like two thousand episodes
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I know, sentimentality is not our thing. We got our own,
and we keep going forward and don't talk.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
All right, This is the Monday episode where we tell
you what was trending over the weekend. Usually this is
kind of a long weekend, two weeks of weekend. We
also let you get to know us a little bit
better about telling you some things that we think are overrated, underrated. Yeah,
and let's kick it off with that, myles, What is
(04:49):
something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Underrated? Tiny cans of.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I hosted a family thing, so i've I don't usually
buy soda, but I was like, oh, I gotta I
gotta have soft this season. You know, yeah, it's the season.
You know, you got people who drink, got people who
are sober, like you got to have a mix, you
got to have it all, baby, I'll have little Coca colas,
little sprites, little holiday ranberry spice sprites or whatever the
fuck those are.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But the tiny can, it's the tiny can. My god,
the way I was for me, it's a tiny can.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It got me. It got me. Folks.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
However, because it wasn't, I know, I understand, there's like
this whole thing of like the framing effect, and you know,
like kind of in your mind you're like, oh, well,
it's only a seven and a half ounce can, so
it's like a little can.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Maybe I'll drink nine of them, right.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I didn't do that, which is like kind of like
the sort of dangerous thing about like with like donut
holes too.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I do that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I definitely do an hole time, like am I dude?
Fifteen of these hasspiably was like half of one donut.
So I've had the whole box. It was like maybe
like two.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But the can.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
There was something about the opening a third can in
a row, and I was like, yo, bro shamed, Yeah,
like it just it It's something in my mind, like
you gotta do all this sounds like really Also, because
it's only seven and a half ounces, you go through
that shit quick.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
If you're thirsty. Oh you're like sticks.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I remember the guys shot was like, Daddy, are you
drinking beer? And that's like, oh the way you're putting
those away, man, why do you put them on a
helmet like that? I got to say they were They're fantastic,
They're cute. However, luckily I did not fall victim to
the framing or unit bias trick of like these small things.
Surely because of the sound of opening it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I was like, you you're you're going three cans in
ten minutes? Yeah, easy, easy, and you've had nuts.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I love the die coke version of those because they're
a nice option if you don't really like want to
have a full diet coke, or two of them equal
one of the twenty ounce diet cokes, which is also
you know that twenty ounce like one of the plastic bottles. Yeah,
which gives me a good like stopping point where it's
(07:04):
just like.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Last Jack, that's fifteen ounces. They're eat seven and a
half ounces, so times too. You got fifteen ounces there, baby,
so you actually do it. You're healthier than the twenty
so you should go ahead a third one on there?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Bro here you can you stop down for a second. Yeah,
I'll be right back. I've got a third one five
those to drink from over the third one on and
you're only two and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Ounces over the little limit. So damn. I was doing
that quick maths in my head, quick maries.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, I thought there were ten ounces for some reason.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All right, Well, from your responsible sprite and junk food consumption,
I'm I'm going the other direction, my underrated I got
a couple related to I did. I did a lot
of you know, we we weren't home. We were up
in Mammoth doing a little skiing for a little while,
and then we were down in Florida staying with my parents,
(07:54):
and so a lot of just eating standard whatever the
local groceries or had, and you know, some fast food.
And I will say one thing that I discovered that
I guess I'm not breaking news. As we joined the
recording today, you were like, you're listening to Russian Hacker.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Crazy Russian Hacker one of twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I was because I was behind a kid at Shakeshack
over the break and he took the you know, the
little paper ketchup cups. He took it and just like
expanded it out and do like not even a plate,
like more like a bowl. Get double the ketchup, which
(08:36):
just makes it's a it's a design feature. I had
that they've been keeping secreting this.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I just didn't. So yeah, like he was popping the
seams right like.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, possibly sees a little bit and like it expands
out so you can like keep the integrity of it.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like it's meant.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's almost like it's meant to do that, which I
didn't realize.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So wait, hold on, wait, what what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You were behind a kid at ship at the context
here like at the ketchup pumps and ketchup pump.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I thought you were just lurking around a shake shack
and you're like, and here's this kid and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I'm taking my notes.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Kid, I was following around, Hey, what.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Do you do? Whould you learn that crazy rush? You
knew some ship?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, but I like those things are so small you
get like three dips usually so too.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't know. This really fucking blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm also given an underrated too from from my previously
mentioned like you grocery shopping, uh, toastedos doritos, any snack
chip with a eedo because if it's got an, I'm winning.
The food Corporation spent loads of money on R and
R on the chips, and I don't know, I think
(09:51):
I think they what about the because.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's a pretty straightforward, stort forward.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But whatever chemical they're spraying on that ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
get the job done for me.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, whatever Dow Chemicals came up with to to compete
with MSG.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, they're like, we're not doing that. That's for Asians.
Here's our America Flavor spray.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, and the integrity for when you're you're dipping into
salsa and the salsa. We'll get into the salsa because
that's my overrated But I just I like thinking about what,
Like it's the thing with like Cola, Ketchup and Candy
have been the ones that I've always felt like the
(10:33):
best selling brands are usually the best, Like they are
hard to be Like you get a small batch of
Cola and for me, it's never as good as catch up.
I've not yet had a ketch Up that can compete
with Hines fifty seven and candy, Like we we had
(10:55):
some like Sour Candy over the break that we picked
up and it was like, you know, some local brand,
and I was like, what are we doing? This is
fucking like it's like leaving residue in my mouth and ship.
It's like so I just like to think of that
division of like because usually corporation takes over the making
of a food, Like they discover somebody making good food,
(11:19):
take over the creation of that and fuck it up
so bad.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, Like someone was talking I don't drink any more,
but someone was talking about a beer that they liked
and then it got taken over by corporation and then
like it was just suddenly bad and like that's usually
how food works. But there are a handful of things
that I just want to give a tip of my
cap tops that are fucking poisoning us.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
To say, you six shout out Doritos, Yeah, shut out.
But I'm curious, like do other people agree with that?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Is it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Do corn chips belong in the cola ketchup candy?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do all four? Do those three? I love them? M
it depends.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, tortilla chips are kind of like snack chips.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think are a little bit different than tortilla chips
from me.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean, I guess totedos because it's part of that
like Freedo lay Empire, Like have a chip the look
like the stuff that we have is good.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yes, it's got a little bit of soy sauce on there,
just a little bit that might.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Have a Chips are good, they're they're any small containers
that make you the bag. The bag is the bag
is if it was like the small sprite can equivalent
of snack chips, Like it's like, are you fucking with me?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Like I saw that this immediately.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
When I see that, I'm about to fight a drug
dealer based on how like the bag looks, because I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
How much is this?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The bag is a third of the way full, like
and you're not even doing the thing like where it's
like it's spilled up with a lot of air to
keep it, like from getting crushed. If you put a
bag of habit chips in the wrong way in a grocery.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Might keep corn chips out out of this category. But
I am curious to hear from people, like what what
are their categories of? Like the things that have just
been perfected by the corporations and we're just done, We're
done trying other stuff. We're just like, all right, we'll
give you this one, because anything like potato chips are
(13:15):
not this for me, potato chips. I like some different,
you know, small batched potato chip.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You know, corporate is king. Basically I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Think corporate is king for potato chips.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
But no, no, no, you know although if you look though,
so many of them, just like beer, are being by just.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Get bought up. Yeah, yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's that was my underrated shout out to Freedo. Lay
I guess I made a millionaires? What what something you
think is overrated?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Overrated?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Gen z jen Alpha music conspiracy theories. Okay, this is
the problem when when we were doing it, there was
no Internet, so you could say whatever and it was believable.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
For as long as you needed it to be believable.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I recently stumbled upon this conspiracy theory about a rapper
named s D Kid, and everyone was like, this is
Timothy shallow May, This is actually Timimothy, Like this is yes,
that SD Kid is actually Timothy shallow May exactly because
he always wears a sisty or a bally a balaclava
(14:24):
as they called it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
The UK and look, I'll give it to them.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
The eyebrow region is very similar because people were going
side by side with like dune pics.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
They're going side by side.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
When Timothy Schallamey was on SNL playing that like SoundCloud
rapper wearing the sisty and he was only showing a
little bit of his face, p were like, this is
the exact same eye and bridge of nose brow pattern.
Now if you just go a little bit deeper, right
aside from just using the most superficial like sort of
evidence to be like this is Timothy Shallomey. Have you
(14:56):
listened to the music at all, because this rapper is
clearly from Liverpool. I'm not like you know, you're saying
he can't do accents Jack in a way where I
thought I was listening to goddamn Bob.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Dylan when I watch that movie, Dude, it's Dan and
nobody can do a Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's so Jack. I'm gonna I want to just play you, Okay,
hold on. This is this track. It's called four Raws.
This is like one of the biggest parts. I'm gonna
just play this one part where he sounds so the
accent is called scouse. They're called scousers out there. This
accent is so scouse. I'm like, if tim if this
is Timothy shallow May, he needs a fucking Academy award
just for this side project.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, that's definitely Timothy.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's they go, that's Timothy shallow May. I'm like, come
the fuck on, y'all. And then but this is the
genius part. Timothy shallow May then did a remix of
this track four raws with SD Kid and put out
a video right before the Christmas break And so.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
That's doing the video.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's why I saw that going viral on Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, And then yeah, they're like, yo, Toothy, he's nice,
and like, no, he's not. He's not, you guys, the
bar is subterranean for celebrities rap.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Just let him be a surprisingly knowledgeable sports fan.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
We don't need to be like. And he's also they
likes to rap. I'll give it to him, you know
what I mean, he likes to rap. I encourage that.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But like, for there are people who are like, dude,
this is a goo whoa Timothy gotta be shall ma?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So I just come on for for the people who
I get you love the idea of it, but there
were so I saw so many videos being like, yo,
just got their Twitter accounts are operating from the same location.
They found all of these like weird sort of like
overlapping things. But to me, it doesn't pass that your test.
Timothy Shalome I heard his accent and that he did
(16:47):
an English accent recently in one film, was like, Bro,
this ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Come on right and he's not hit no conspiracy. First
of all, I do think he has one of those
faces back to the just brass tacks of this conspiracy theory.
I feel like he like they did that lookalike contest
in New York City and you could have killed Timothy
shall then replaced him with twenty of those people, and
(17:12):
I would I would have been like, Yep, there there
goes Timothy show. You know, like, uh, I just feel
like sometimes people have faces that like I feel like
I see once a day around Los Angeles and then
you you made reference to our music conspiracy theories? Can
you you draw like I mean obviously there was like
Tupac still alive.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, I'm talking about stuff like that like easily, Like
I remember like in the Kluminati album, Uh, there was
like the or sorry Macavelly album. It starts off people
that I said, Chuke shot Tupac. There's like a part
where you thought you heard Shoke shot Tupac and that
was enough for years, moving on that for years. I
(17:53):
lived on that up until maybe four weeks ago when
I saw the Diddy documentary right and I.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Said, what Diddy documentaries like? They go hard the other way,
They're like, dude, he got to pocul. I haven't heard that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Face growing up, and assumed I.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Heard that too, But in my mind there was There
was pretty clearly a moment where said chokes Tupac and
that was enough. That was enough for me, and just
other stuff like or even like the Chris Gaines of
it all, you know when we had when when Garth
Brooks went out as another thing it was it was
so clear but enough that you're like, oh, this is
fun and the other means I guess more just more
(18:31):
like the other kinds of conspiracy theories you would hear,
which are just like salacious celebrity rumors, surely word of
mouth that had no way to be vetted in any
any conceivable way to know, Like I don't know about
Richard Gear and a bunch of gerbils.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I was just thinking, like so many of the ones
that I remember are are based on like homophobic, just
like rumors about male celebrities or Lil Kim. There's impossible
amounts of semen in their sewing.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Or did you okay remember the rapper Little Flip Uh huh?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
There was one that they said Low Flip had aids. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, there was I think kaya all you ladies pop
yo pussy like this, they say she had aids.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
There was just like people who were wild terrible. I mean,
I guess ours weren't better.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Because we were twelve year old boys just being like
the act like that.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
She probably got probably got aids. Yeah, oh dudes.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, Marilyn Manson having his rib removed to sug his
own dick.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I think that was.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
There were a couple of those, right, I feel like
Marilyn Manson had that. Rod Stewart had the stomach pump.
But then I actually looked into that one and there
were like a bunch of different people who had the
stomach pump theory new kids on the block. There was
one one of those that ran rampant through my elementary school.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, they found Semen in one of their butts from
one of the other new kids.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
This is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
This is what the This is the kind of ship
they were saying about Kaya that she was murdered after
she gave HIV to her husband.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Come on, this is just bad, bad stuff, actually terrible.
We're so broken.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Therese are better man, Timothy is actually Timothy Shallow.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, I don't we don't need to be lying on
the start.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's like a more benevolent Paul is dead. They're not
even killing anyone, They're just like that person is straight
up destroying people. My apologies. Look you're doing great, Jenn Alpha,
all right, my overrated one.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I went to see.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Avatar, Avatar Fire, Iron Home, Avatar, Fire and Ash and
they started the previews thirty minutes after the start time
that was listed on the thing.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It was just ads for.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Thirty started thirty minutes after the So it's a twelve
o'clock show. The previews start at.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Twelve thirty, yes, and just adds the whole time up
until then. Unbelievable. This is was a Regal cinema in Florida.
So I don't know if this is what we're headed for,
but we need We talked last year about how there
was like some legislation that was being proposed for you know,
the movie time has to be has to list when
(21:25):
the movie actually starts to like when you know, give
me two movie times, give me boarding time and you
know the take off time. Yeah, yeah, we need that
ship stat. I think they showed the same. Maybe they
showed that Jennifer Gardner ed where she's like flying all
over the world multiple times and uh yeah, just the
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tostito salsa, I gotta say, do do not lump that
in with with my toastino shandem because that shit is
I was news to you. No, but it's also the
only salsa. Like we need more salsa options, like every
at at the like Kroger Von you know those type
(22:09):
of grocery chains like they yeah, that ship. The big
brand salsas are horrendous.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
That's like the one time you could say, Yo Corporate
is not king with the salsas.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The salsas are if you recognize the name, run as
far as you can.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just like tomato paste and onion slivers, Like that's
all you're getting in there is fucked up.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's like ragu before they put the other seasonings in
it to make it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Like oh no, no, don't put that regno in yet because
that's ragoo. Bottle that up. That's Thsteda's salsa. That's right.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, there's and and pretzels. I would say also in
this category of like you the the big brand pretzels,
they're not like horrendous, but like you can get some
good get some good, local local pretzels, like a hollowed
out pretzel where it's just like the brown crunchy on
the outside. You ever have those, No, Yeah, they're doing
(23:07):
with pretzel technology. It's like yeah, it's like a it's
like Riga Toni but it's like yeah, just just the
crunchy outer and then like a little bit of inner.
But it's it's nice. I highly recommend. All Right, That's
that's where we're at. We're gonna take a quick break
and we're gonna come back and talk about all the
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news that's been happening for the past two weeks. We'll
be back, and we are back. We're back, and I
guess we got to just like catch up with what
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Donald Trump was doing over the holidays, right like this,
This motherfucker a busy, busy holiday season.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
There is his health. There is his Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Even going to get into his health, but that appears
to beating.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Ideas.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And he's got ideas about his own medical care. Too
long may that last?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Can't tell me how many asks for him to take.
I'll take take as many, ass but I want my
blood thinner than Sean Paul go tee hair. All right,
but uh, as expected the Epstein files, I mean not
as not on time, but that mon files did drop.
Uh and just bricks and bricks of black ink yeah,
(24:35):
uh everywhere, just yeah, so many redactions as expected.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Like it was like the memes everyone was posting was
you know, like everyone predicted were like you're just gonna
see big black blocks, like and they're gonna just say
that's a page of it, and we did and images. Uh.
It was a really fucking one of the wildest rollouts
of information also because like it was so poorly done,
Like you know, people were just copying and pasting text
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from these PDF files and they were just highlighting stuff
black so you could unhighlight stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Was that true?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Like That's what the other thing is that I'm still
like digging myself out from. I feel like there was
so much misinformation around it too, uh huh, Like there's
like photos that turned out not to be true. There's
a lot of shit, but yeah, allegedly like you could
see you could just copy they didn't pay for like
(25:30):
the upgraded Adobe pdf. Yeah, and so it was just
they blacked it out, but you could still copy and
paste it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know, this is this is not this is this
wasn't like misinformation. This was straight up buffoonery. Other people
were like, damn is this Like was this intentional? People
to be like, yeah, it's reducted, but go ahead, you
might find some dark shit out. Then there was just
like the wild accusations that were just everything.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, they put a picture of Michael Jackson Diana ross
In in there like and implied that it was at
Epstein's home and it was.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was like some fundraiser or something, the fundraiser.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, they were putting well then also like
the selective like whoa look at all these pictures that
just came out.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It's all Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Huh yeah, And people were like what the fuck, Like
it was so transparent that they were trying to just
be like and it's all Bill Clinton, guys. No, don't
even ask about Donald Trump. And then Bill Clinton was like,
release the files.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Then it was like, oh fuck, all right, uh cause
I think like I.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Th unredact those files.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, for anyone who is not a Republican.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
People were like, yeah, dude, get his Drag his ass
out too, Drag this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Drag everyone's fucking ass out into the light. That's the
deal here. Yeah, got Winnie the Pooh. Where the fuck
was that? Man?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean it's like dark, but like I think he
took one of his victims to Disneyland, and so there's
a picture. He was the most photographed, was meticulous and
photographing every fucking day of his life. It seems like
every every time he was with a new person. But yeah,
there's a picture of him with Winnie the Pooh, which
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had to have been fun for Winnie the Poo's pr team.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh of course. Yeah. Yeah. They had to explain that
he was not on the flight logs, but he actually was.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
If you look closely, Winnie the Pooh's there with Winnie
the poos.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Fucked up, dude, Yeah, just like it's the other things too.
Is you really realize it got worse for Trump too?
Like it wasn't just like, oh, take all this stuff
out about Trump, like this stuff where he's mentioned You're like, oh,
it sounds like mar A Lago.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Was like the nexus. Yeah, like a lot of a
lot of dark shit was being ran out of mar
A Lago, not in the files.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But Marjorie Taylor Green did say that when she like
Theabstein files were the big divider between the two of them.
The New York Times did a big interview with her,
and at one point Trump shouted that that epsteam files
are going to hurt my friends.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh my friends.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean that's so that's a direct evidence, say, if
we're taking it, or we're this direct evidence of a
cover up by Trump to protect the wealthy sexual predators
that run uh run the world. Yeah yeah, yeah, that
means to be taking down as part of his uh
according to his Q disciples.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I feel like you've got so much direct evidence.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I know, it's fucking wild.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Just is his administration.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
There's nothing to see here, there's something to see here,
there's no there's nothing to go off of to prosecute
anyone further. Maybe there is, but it's Bill Clinton, who
forget about Donald Trump? Oh wait, why is this stuff
for dactad. Okay, we'll just invade Venezuela. But there's a
lot of dark shit. There's one talking about Donald Trump
and Lake Michigan and uh it's wild. Also, Interlock in
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Arts can is like a performing arts camp that like
I struggled to get into because I was a really
serious trumpet player as a kid. I didn't really Jeffrey
Epstein had a whole lodge there at this children at
this fucking performing arts camp in fucking Michigan. There's just
I was just going through casually through some stuff because
like different websites would bubble up things based on what
(29:21):
they were sort of interested in or what they covered.
And when I saw that, I was like looking at
like local Michigan News and I saw this thing about Interlock, and.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I was like Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Anyway, So Rocanna and Thomas Massey obviously aren't giving up
because they they missed the deadline. Then they also had
a deadline to explain, like why was so heavily redacted.
That was January third, Like I said, that's when they said, oops,
we Venezuela. But Thomas Massey and Rocanna they said they
are going to seek to hold Pam Bondi in contempt
of Congress, and are also like, we want to see
(29:53):
the real shit quote This is from I believe Rocanna
said quote. We want to see the survivor's statements to
the FBI. Were they name other rich and powerful men
who abused them or who covered up the crimes? And
we want to see the draft prosecution memos which explained
why many many men were involved in the cover up
and abuse.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That would be bad for my friends, that would be
bad for.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Buddies. Yes, good buddy, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And then he spent Christmas Eve talking to children on
the phone Donald Trump, which was like fuck up, yeah,
so weird, informing them that the government tracks Santa in
order to ensure that he hasn't been infiltrated.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
That was a weird moment.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He also asked this kid what they wanted, and they
he wanted a kindle, and He's like, good, we need
high IQ.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
What do you want from Santa. Laney's on the phone
in the corner.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well that's a hard one for.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Me, Julia spin it out. Oh, well that's pretty good.
You must be a high IQ person. We need more
hush scrubbed, so we definitely need more high IQ.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Just just like slow push into Milania, completely turned away
on I don't know if that's a call or she's
pretending to be on a call.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
She's on a call over there being like why should
I give a fuck about Christmas?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah? The fuck them is what I say.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, it was such an odd things, just like it's
bad to put Donald Trump in this state in like
long uncut video segments.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, or you're truly just like, oh boy, you're just
that Uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I make sure that he's not infiltrated, that we're not
infiltrating into our country. A bad Santa who we found
out that Santa is good, Santa loves you, Santa loves Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like I do what? Yeah? Yeah, Brian the editor makes
it a good point.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's just a bad look at Trump talking to children
generally given everything.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, I think they were trying to steer it, like
be like that this guy, he's no, they're like get
steering into the what's your name argument, the Megan Kelly
argument where she's like, these are children. Now, the people
that he's in those pictures with.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Those are hot teens. Those are just hot teens. Guys.
Please lady, what are you fucking talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Uh? And then New Year's Oh God, Benjamin net and
Yahoo at mar A Lago for a New Year's Eve party, Uh,
that featured both Vanilla Ice and Michael Angelo from the
Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Did you see there's one there's like a like a
joke Chiopi account that's just like it's like it tweets
as if it's like a conservative but it's a great
one where they had a photo of Vanilla Ice on
stage with Michael Angelo and it said there's nothing better
than watching the Godfather of Rap Vanilla Ice Cube ringing
the New Year at mar A Lago with one of
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the actual Ninja Turtle.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Men, like in Ninja Turtle Men put it had all
the hits Giuliani, My Pillow, CEO, Mike Lindell, Janine Piro,
fact that Netanya who's there, like party ended up Stephen
Miller christin Nome.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's I mean, it just shows how just the utter
lack of acknowledgment of just law and order too, of
just being like, yeah, man, we've probably fucking roll out
the red carpet for this war criminal and he kicks
it with me and other war criminal and we just.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Act like, go and check this boot. We're watching the
Ninja Turtleman breakdance to Ice Ice Baby.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's it's just like it's in that there's an account
that I've made reference to that's like future Adam Curtis
b Roll, like the guy who made Hypernormalization and those things,
and like has a very good eye for just like
weird dystopic moment from our past. But it's just like
our entire reality. It has just become that. It's just
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everywhere you look. You can't avoid Vanilla Ice and Michael
Angelo on stage as Benjamin Netta, who like fails to
dance in the audience. And so, as you mentioned, on
the eve of the DOJ's deadline to explain its redactions
in the Epstein Files, Trump and the CIA invaded Venezuela,
(34:25):
captured Maduro and his wife, let him wear a Nike
Tech jumpsuit the sweatsuits that look pretty cool, and allegedly
immediately sold out and charged them with weapon and drug
offenses in New York. Yeah, and he's now claiming the
US will now run the country while giving American oil
companies the green light to move in and like he
(34:47):
has basically at a press conference, been like if we
did for the oil what you talking about?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, they got it that oil there, and it's it's
unfair what happened that that could have been ours?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Should that's ours now? Ye, they will run the country.
Uh huh. That usually works.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, I mean it sounds like the you know, now
the vice president who is now president of Venezuela's like, uh, no.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Right, we are not going to be a colony.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And he was saying he Trump's response to that was
that she should get in line or something bad might
happen to her, maybe even worse than a duro. Yeah,
Jesus Christ. And he's also been like, We're going to
do this again and again. Who literally I think he said,
who can stop us? We have to do it again.
We can do it again too. Nobody can stop us,
(35:41):
was what he said to Fox News. Yeah again, just
like no more. I remember, like I studied in Ireland
for a semester and like took an international relations course
and it was like, oh, oh, we're the Like one
of the videos they showed us was the Panama Invasion,
like a documentary about the pan invasion that you know,
(36:01):
we're hearing a lot about because that was the last
time that we openly invaded a country in the region,
and that time it was also like about covering up
like a narrative. Poppy Bush, George W. Bush's dad was
the president, and like people were like, he's weak, he's
a weakling, he's a sissy, and so he you know,
(36:23):
a former head of the CIA, and as the CIA does,
they went in. But it's just like that back then,
it was like sort of an undercover thing and it
will get out on social like we'll see footage of
what this attack looked like from the ground. They killed
forty people, including civilians like an eighty year old woman.
(36:47):
I will just say that I listened to the New
York Times podcast about this The Daily, and they really.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Went hard, went hard against the empire.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
They very much create it like they're getting the TikTok,
Like it's like listening to an episode of Action Boys,
like John Gabris's action movie Potsting. No, because because they're
just like so into the details of like they're like,
you know, how the CIA had Maduro wired. Basically they
(37:21):
use they like infiltrated his inner circle and like knew
where he was going to be at all times. And
then you know, the helicopter didn't kill forty people, including civilians.
They returned fire on those civilians.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh sure, very much.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
This is the like capture of Osama bin Laden like
style of being like, and then they had to do
this and then be able to replace the home of
the home they were going to invade it, right.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
The precision, so much precision, guys.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
But yeah, I think that's a way for them to
avoid talking about the fact that it's like, clearly a
war crime.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Clearly war crime, clearly illegal. You don't you didn't use
your congress Hello. Hello, But again this is the Hello
administration where they're like, what the fuck is a what
is anything? Yeah, it's I mean, like the propaganda you
already see from like just American media, Like you really
see how fully fully captured American media is too, or
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like they're just they're pushing a lot of They're like
Venezuelan's Rejoice stuff like, well, some might not be.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
They'll put these very selective videos.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Some people are like in America, you're like, hello, what
are okay? Sure, try and present this image as if
they But I think to me that it's such classic
empire and decline shit we're doing. Like, I just hate
how history is so fucking spot on. From time immemorial,
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every fucking empire in decline does this last gasp shit
of micro militarism, not full blown wars, just a little
violent treat you can have as a fading empire as
you try to convince yourself you're not in it your
own death throws, which the American Empire clearly is. Spain
did this in the nineteenth century. England, Frans, fucking everybody
(39:12):
does this shit when the empire is cooked, and it
sends you further into ruin your more resources go to
fight wars that are meaningless that only come back in
the form of further degradation of your population in your country.
As we're seeing now, we are completely not supporting human
life in the United States and we're only supporting more
(39:33):
military industrial complex nonsense, or the fucking fossil fuel industry
and things like that. So you know, we're going to
waste dollars in lives to help some senil asshole and
is like band of flunkies feel like they are big
and powerful. They are cowards hiding behind the absurd contradiction
that is American power, which is on one hand, you
(39:53):
act like you are the leader of the fucking free
world and stand for the oppressed, well just being the
actual oppressor and then being hyper selective when defining what
a quote evil regime is or what quote mass atrocities
are or what quote weapons of mass destruction is.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
So yeah, I don't know. I mean like it's just this.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Is disgusting of like decades, almost a century of the CIA,
you know, being a major force of you know, narco
terrorism in these countries, you know, funding it, being behind it,
and essentially like causing the problems that they then go
(40:32):
in and blow people up to solve allegedly.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, it's like it's the Homer quote about beers. What
America is the cause of and solution to all of
life's problems is how they look at it. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, like, Dug, open up a history
book and with empires in decline do because we're we're
playing it right to the script, you know, right right
down to the minute.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Just like reading about did did you read that article
about Rubio's background with the CIA? Like, hey, well, I'll
dig into it on a future episode. But it's just
like reading about the CIA's history of like covert actions
everywhere in the world is just like, oh man, all
all these conspiracies are true.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
It's it's so bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
And and the CIA is like the police, bro, they
have the worst record of regime change. Look at every
fucking like right wing overthrow that the CIA is backed.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's like, and yeah, how that work helped the people?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
No, it helped, It helped very specific Well, that's definitely
a financial goal, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
About Usually it's secretly about uh, you know, getting access
to the resources bananas, fruit, uh, drugs and you know,
controlling those for the US. But in this case, it's
openly about that.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
So that's happening. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And and I mean god, it's like it's truly like,
I mean, nothing can stop us. We're all the way
up because the UN Security Council, where maybe there could
be some kind of repercussions being doled out, the US
can just be like on us.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, the US gets to veto any repercussions.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
So like it's tough. I think, and this is now.
I mean I think this is now.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You look at the other countries, like, especially after the
shit he's saying, like maybe Mexico maybe Columbia. All these
people are like and do what right, Like, none of
these countries are cowering.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
These people.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
These they have a very clear idea of like what
American medaling looks like, and no one's being like, oh, yes,
you guys are. So they're just like, excuse, what the
what the fuck are you saying you're gonna come up
in here now?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
No, they might fuck around and get themselves into an
actual war, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Like the US will yet. I mean again, this is
just all we have.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
The economy is fading, and you have the Epstein files,
you have so many real things to really handle here,
and they're just going with the time on or distraction
of some kind of stupid military crusade.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, he's now flat out saying he needs Greenland, and
Steven Miller's wife tweeted out a photo of Greenland covered
with the American flag, So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I mean, this is just gonna bro, this is just
gonna a fucking nuclear arms race. Is probably just gonna
take right back up now. Because if it's back to
they're like, these motherfuckers might just pull.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Up on you.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
They're gonna be like, you know, North Korea they managed
to keep They kept that bang on him and they
did countries at Bay.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know, uh, seems bad.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Seems like we're heading into a very dangerous time of
unrest and war and we're the bad.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Guys so always have been. Baby who let's take a
quick break.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
We'll be right back, and we're back, and let's talk
about some other shit that went down. Yeah, we were hibernating, Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Dude, rip to make MTV MTV well, not like the
regular MTV channel that doesn't play music videos anymore, the
one that was their twenty four hour music video channel
went off the air, and the sign off for the
twenty four music video channel the last video they played
video killed the Radio Star. So they they they bookended
(44:26):
the entire birth and death of twenty four hour music
television channel with that music video?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Was that what they opened with? Yeah? Yeah, that was
the first music video played on MTV. Damn called shot
on that one.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah yeah, So my millennial heart felt a small pain
just because, like MTV is such. That was really when
we had monoculture like at its height, and you're like,
I don't know what's MTV saying because that's like where
the that's where the that's where the youth is fucking
saying stuff about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Let's tab with the sore ins take.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, but anyway, the regular channel remains, but twenty four
hour music video channel, it's goodbye, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
What were they playing for? Like, had you watched it
was the last time you watched the twenty.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Maybe randomly when I had cable when I go what,
I'm just curious, like what that last point?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's just all music videos, yeah, the whole time. Uh yeah,
I don't know. I'm it's because you still.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Make music videos. I guess you for YouTube.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah yeah, and but also like it's stuff, so you know,
it's for like the TikTok generation. It's just like it's
not the kind of stuff that's made for broadcast television.
It's not made to be consumed on TV anymore. Yeah,
but we'll miss you. MTV was once cool. Shout out yo,
MTV raps. Those like one of the reliable places for
somebody in the Midwest to like find out about cool
(45:45):
red music. Yeah, oh is that you were like, please
please please yow MTV raps.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Let me know.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, I I need ed Lubber and the other doctor
Dre to help me with know what's going on, all right.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
We also have an update on Drake Ray pray H
in a lawsuit was filed over the break. He was
accused of taking part in an illegal gambling operation. So
Steak that company that he gets paid like one hundred
million dollars A yeah, something I've seen, and yet still
managed to like be mad at them for like freezing
(46:22):
his account, Like that's because he's ago he is at gambling. Yeah,
he's blown through one hundred mil a year. But the
other issue is that Steak, via a bunch of like
loopholes that sound like they were made up by me
and not somebody with like an understanding of law, was
trying to operate in states where online gambling is illegal,
(46:45):
Like I think Virginia is one where you're like not
allowed to do online gambling. They're like, well, you're not
because you're actually gambling with Steaks bucks that are then
redeemable for real money.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
I have a one to one value to US dollar.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
But the very interesting part of the rico is that
it goes on to say that he specifically used his
money that he gained from this legal gambling operation to
fund bot farms that inflated his listening numbers artificially and illegally,
making like they kind of ether him in the thing,
like they say that wholly unregulated money transmitter. The lawsuit
(47:22):
ads financed another defendant's promotion of Steak, as well as
a campaign to artificially boost drake streams and quote fabricate popularity,
disparage competitors and music label executives, distort recommendation algorithms. The
scheme the lawsuit alleges is carried out on platforms such
as Spotify and Quote has suppressed authentic artists and narrowed consumers'
(47:45):
access to legitimate content.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Throw, that's crazy. What was you? Didn't you have a lawsuit, Drake?
Didn't you weren't you accusing somebody of bot farms and
stuff and how inflating numbers? And wasn't that Kendrick Lamar, there's.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Just a certain type of psycho who like can't see
the world any other way than how it appears to him,
you know. And so he's taken advantage of like bot farming.
Everyone else must be is his theory of the case.
But yeah, that was that was so funny when he
tried to claim Kendrick was bot farming.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's how not Like Us?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
So where like not Like Us was the most omnipresent
song I think of my life. I don't think I've
ever heard a song just more uniformly popular, played by
everyone everywhere, coming out of like every third car that
I passed.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
It didn't even matter the context. It was like, it's
the hottest song. I remember being at a funeral and
I did say a eulogy, and they're like, do you
want to come out to not Like Us? When you speak?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I was like, I don't know if that's a.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But they're like, okay, people love it though, people just
love vote it. You want us to, we'll have it
ready if just give us a signal and we'll go
much it on the beat. Help and then you can
do your thing, sir, do your thing.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
That's just so.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Wild that just the idea that all of this is
wrapped up into Drakes, that potentially this is like Drake
sort of his whole operation.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
It's like this gambling thing plus bot farming.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's the thing about these algorithms, man Like, just just
as easily as like they can bubble things up to you,
they clearly can be manipulated.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
By flooding the fucking zone. Flood the zone with shit.
Yeah bro. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Anyway, I also feel the fact the fact that the
lawsuit went as hard as they did, Like I just
feel like he's like the easiest person to rhetorically beat
the shit out in the world. Like everybody's just like
get a licking as quickly as they can. Yeah, but
whenever they get a swing.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
That would be so wild if that this, if this
was true and he was really patting the numbers that much,
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Curious what always. So here's here's the things that lead
me to believe he was always like everywhere in those
like Spotify algorithms. You know, I pay attention to those
like top hundred streaming charts on like Apple Music and
Spotify for for this show, just like get a sense
of like what people are listening to. He's always like
(50:13):
overrepresented there in a way that I was like, God,
damn man, people really fuck with Drake. But he also
like changed how he made like he started releasing albums
with like thirty songs on it because he knew that
that actually would inflate and like help, Like, so he's
(50:33):
already changing the integrity of his artistic output. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, to be fair, I'd say, to be fair, the
labels are also they understand the game too. But he
definitely to your point, he's definitely like he's not an
artist first. He's like a business person first. So in
that sense, he's like, I don't want to write lyrics,
I'll have somebody else write them. I get to perform them.
And then also if there's a way to get to
(51:03):
gameless system for my albums, I guess I'll do that.
But that just became a that just sort of became
so widespread at that point. But maybe he was the
goddemsee of all of that. It's just a I mean,
I know what you mean, Like I think I wonder
if maybe that's why Not Like Us blew up so
much too. Is sort of this sort of built in
exhaustion from an ever omnipresent Drake. And then someone was like, man,
(51:26):
just like sort of piercing that bubble and people are like, yeah, yeah, fuck,
get shit out of here. Because I think most of
the engine for the popularity of Not Like Us was
the distaste for Drake. It wasn't really because Kendrick Lamar.
I mean, he became like diametrically opposed, and people selected
Kendrick Lamar were like, oh, actually, fuck with this guy.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
But it was also because it like it gave you
a reason, like, man, I'm fucking done with Drake.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a really good point that, like,
by artificially like putting him in front of us, well
when like he didn't, it wasn't necessarily driven by interest.
He built up this bubble of people who were just
ready to be like, yeah, for for it to.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Pop on not like us. Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
And finally, something that happened on New Year's Day, Betty Boop,
Nancy Drew Blondey, not the not the album, but the
old old ass cartoon, enter the public domain.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Welcome to the public domain, y'all.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Get ready for some weird ass movies, just like we
did what was that, Winnie the Pooh.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Winnie the Pooh, We've done Steamboat, Willie the Mickey Old
Nicky Mouse, Yeah, yeah, yeah, predecessor Mickey Mouse. Everybody's like
Mickey Mouse is already in the public domain. It's like
that first drawing where he doesn't really look like Mickey
the Mouth, Mickey the Mouse, as I call him.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
If the original Mickey the Mice is here tonight, folks
with the turtlemen.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
But they're doing their thing and have already green little
low budget horror movie about Betty Boop that looks Yeah,
I mean it's just the same shit. It's like a
killer in a Betty boot mask. Yeah, stocking people which
do great. Yeah, those other ones did pretty well. You
make it for sixty thousand dollars, you make a million, guys.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
It's right there, it's right there.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
I mean, it's not really transgressive to like have a
like Winnie the Pooh is a kid's character. Mickey Mouse
is like one of the most famous kids characters. Betty
Boop was like a sex symbol for people at a
time when they didn't have anything to jerk off too,
and so they're like, you, we took off the cartoons.
(53:35):
Have you heard that one chick O poop poop by doop?
Yeah yeah yeah. Also for people who like really big heads.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
She using both hemispheres.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Fam also entering the public domain, we got three iconic detectives.
Sam Spade from Maltese Falcon, Oh wow, Nancy Drew for
Nancy Drew Books, Yeah, and uh Agatha Christie's first Miss
Marple novels, which it's.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
A bit of a blad spot for me. The kids
have been dying for the first Miss Marple.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
You'll get that Sam Stage shit out here, man, Sam
Speed is a fucking public domain.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
My new rapper name Bro, my first album Maltese Falcon
dropping soon.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Speaking of shit, the kids are clamoring for. Also, as
I lay dying, William Faulkner Jay. So far no one's
announced a new movie about horny camp counselors being hacked
to death by a bunch of impoverished Southerners, created by
William Faulkner. Not yet, not yet, It's coming, all right.
(54:51):
Those are some of the things that are trending on
this Monday, January fifth. We are back tomorrow morning with
a wholest episode of the show. We'll be back next
week with another Icons episode. Ye until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourself, get your vaccines
where you still can get your flu shots, don't do
nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
By The Daily Zeite guys As Executive produced by Catherine Law.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Co produced by Bee Wayne, co produced by Victor Wright
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