In this edition of Trend Roof Rusted, Jack and Miles discuss the finale of Stranger Things (or is it?), PolyMarket vs. Venezuela, Google's AI Overview STILL being inaccurate, Hampton Inn cancelling ICE?, anti-Venezuelan invasion protesters getting arrested and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Brand
Roof Rusted. That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver. What's that
that us from a red roof rusted? The love Shack song.
Oh no, it's tin roof rusted.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh oh's roof rusted. I don't know, it's just a
random thing.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The song stops down in the middle and they say
tin roof rusted.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh oh okay, yep, wow wow wow wow.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sorry about that, guys.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was just with Bred the other day and he said,
but he loves the show.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm zite gang. I'm zite gang. Another one I love
doing that.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Was Curtousy of Vanadium Silver, who also did the MC
Trendall's yesterday, and I don't think I shouted them out,
So shout out to Vanadium Silver. King of the short
show titles. My name is Jack O'Brian. That ever, there's
Miles Gray. This see the episode where we tell you
what is trending this afternoon. It is Wednesday, January seventh,
and we are it's coming out. We already have an
(01:06):
update to Recovered this morning because everybody was on the
edge of their seat. I mean to see if the
fan theories were right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, was the.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Ending of fake ending, and they were about to drop
the real ending on all of our asses to.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That that bad ending was faked.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So you thought that that ending was bad by mistake,
It was bad on purpose because you're in the matrix.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hell yeah, hell, I still think they should have done that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I still think officially, no, it's official word. I mean
at this point, no, no episodes are out, but hold on.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Still according to the creators of the show, you want
to leave them, Uh, it's over, the Duffer said on
happy said confused that they don't intend to ever revisit
the Stranger Things characters, affirming the series finale is how
they wanted to close the book.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Which series finale though? Aha, Aha, I'm still in There's
still time, Jack, there's still time on the clock.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Netflix made the post saying all episodes of Stranger Things
are now playing. I feel like they're like leading up
this point a little open ended. Yeah, you know they're not.
They're not saying, guys, your theory is fucking stupid. They're saying,
we finished it how we wanted to. They're not saying
there will be no whatever. Forty seventh I don't know what. Yeah, yeah,
(02:32):
forty third, forty thirty third, there will be no forty third.
They're just kind of teasing us, And honestly, who are
we gonna believe? We're gonna believe the creators of the
show or this shelf of cassette tape someone's screen grabbed,
which GROC says is secretly morse code that says you
did not stop me. Fuck yeah, potentially VEKNA haunting.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean, I just love that someone really looked at
the order of the cassette tapes and goes, that's morse code.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right, I'm going to translate that you did not stop me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
But also I have to assume that this is bullshit,
like the CROC is incorrect. But I think they missed
an opportunity to do something cool and form breaking, which
seems in keeping with Netflix.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do you think the Duffer brothers would have been like, fuck,
we should have done that, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I do wonder.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, I'm sure they're like too hot, committed to
their own like this is actually the way it should
have ended. But I do wonder if there's ever I
would love to hear an author or you know, I'd
be like, damn, that was actually a sick idea. I
sure they have all sorts of reasons for not doing
(03:46):
it the way that the people, but like their reasons
are bad.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, gotta tell you. Oh, Brian said they wanted to
end it ended after season one.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hey, I would have been fine with that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then they were like, here, how about we write
you this check.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Remember that Jack, when we told at the time stuff media,
we just wanted to do one show a week, and
then they backed up the dump truck of coupons.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Actually the exact they were trying to save us from ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Don't do it daily weeklies. I guys, that ring out
in my head forever. We got from our CEO. How
about the weeklies? This seems like too much. We are
about you guys, and Razor thin teetering on the edge
of one.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Thousand episodes later. All right, big news right now is polymarket.
Yeah yeah, so this is something that I've seen kind
of trickling up through the news lately. We're going to
talk on tomorrow's episode about how integrated it got into
the news. But a big story that people are talking about,
not just that the US stage and unprecedented incursion into
(04:51):
Venezuela and kidnapped the sovereign leader and openly admitted that
they were doing it because they're the bad guys and
they just want their ow and because they can who
they're kind of like.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, he's not a good guy either, so it kind
of cancels it out right.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, people are like, nah.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The president you're setting especially for the president is fright.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But yes, they looked back at Iraq.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
We're like, the only thing, the only lesson we're taking
from that is that we shouldn't have wasted all.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That time lying to people.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We should have just been like, we're gonna do it
because they got they got oil wells, oil countries, they're
on there.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's how quickly went from it's the drugs, it's the oil.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's the oil man. You fucking got us the.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Steed running the whole Iraq war in like five weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, like that, we got to work to lie and
they get caught in the lie and everybody be like
it was a big scandal. We're just going to tell
you why we're doing this. Anyways. As a little side
quest in this story, yeah, there was a new Polymarket
account creator. Poly Market is the gambling site that allows
you to gamble on real world events the apocalypse. Yes,
(06:06):
and there was a new polymarket account created at the
end of last year that suddenly invested heavily around thirteen
thousand dollars on Maduro being quote out by January thirty first, So.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
People are like that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So that that ended up paying out at four hundred
and ten thousand dollars a bet, which people are like, hmm,
that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Hyeah.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Usually what gambling sites and casinos would define as a
suspicious bet, it would probably be oiling up their head
vices and you know, get getting ready to crack some
fingers sideways. But because polymarket is explicitly designed to be
(06:56):
a crypto market, that like you are you know you
people use crypto, so it's impossible to trace it. Like
everything in this administration is just a way to make
grifting and cheating easier to get away with.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, opacity set to one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes, so online betting on US military invasions isn't totally new.
Back in two thousand and three, online gambling sites began
offering odds on whether there will be war between the
US and Iraq.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I pay for my college.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But it's just the fact that it's completely crypto and
therefore tailor made so harder trading. It seems like it
was designed by people to make it possible.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, every inside her trade.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Every level you zoom out on, the story gets darker
and darker because so one version is like someone made
it bet for thirteen thousand dollars. It may a four
hundred k on like Maduro being out by the thirty first,
and then you're like, okay, what is this polymarket?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And the You're like, what else has been going on? Polymarket?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Other weird things that feel like someone haven't has it
inside tracked? The US are out further and you're like,
Donald Trump Junior is an advice the.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Advisor to the company. His venture capital firm invested in
the company, and he's become a major advisor.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Dad, Dad, you guys gonna take Maduro by I don't
know the thirty first or what do what do you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
God? Okay, I won't be shady this time out. I'll
bet like thirteen grand.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'll bet like thirteen grand, and it'll pay for three
weeks worth of cocaine.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The other red flag bets. Maduro's opponent, Maria Corina Machado
won the twenty twenty five Nobel Peace Prize, but her
odds began to spike on Polymarket right ahead of the announcement,
despite a highly secretive selection process. The bets even prompted
the Nobel Institute to launch an investigation into potential leaks. Similarly,
(08:46):
a user made more than one million dollars betting on
Google's year in search results by betting on the top
searches with uncanny accuracy.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I wonder who on the Google Year in Search team
made a bet on poly.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Market so that maybe maybe pay your search team better.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But what the next daily'sitgeist icons episode is going to
be of and with who?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The Noel Institute has said that it may have been
a victim of espionage, so it's not just like idle speculation.
They're like, yeah, we don't know what the fuck happened,
but we really pulled that one that pick out of
our ass and someone was betting on it, which doesn't
make any sense. So on Monday, House Democrat Richie Torres
introduced a bill that would make it illegal for government
officials to use online prediction markets to make bets on
(09:35):
political events based on privileged information.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh wow, mister A.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Democrats aren't stepping up man. Democrats are Yeah, the thing
it feels like everything, every reaction from them has just
been like mad that they're missing out.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, tell us we would have signed on.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I mean nance, but Nancy would never share her stock
tips with me. Dude, that's fucked up. And Richie Torres,
my god, like the guy owned by Apak being like,
here's a thing I'll be outraged about the betting, Go
find your soul.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Also, poly Markets seems kind of fucked up. Like, I mean,
so let's say you are prone to gamble on these
sorts of things on people's lives, and no, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Terrible because it's like if you're taking action on fucking everything. Yeah,
I mean, it's like truly what degenerate gamblers do. Like
when they're like, hey, man, what do you think, Like
you think this kid's gonna put up twenty? They're like,
this is an under thirteen kids basketball game.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I know he's got five. He's on the bench right now.
I think, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I've talked before about how my friends from college would
wager on Uh. We were like sitting at a table
killing time, and they were like, all right, which of
these four people is going to get up first, and
like they had a live, lively action going, and like
as the person would like move a little bit, they'd
be like.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh yeah, just all that for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But hey, you got polymarket now, so now you get
bet on things like the nuclear apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They also announced that they wouldn't be paying out millions
of dollars worth of bets on a US invasion of
Venezuela because they argued that President Trump's statement that they
will run Venezuela, while referencing ongoing talks with a Venezuelan government,
does not alone qualify the kidnapping to capture Maduro as
an invasion.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh that's the.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Fucked up thing is like, it's very easy to, like,
when you're taking bets on everything, it's very easy to
be like.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Still holding out on who actually.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know, the thing with sports is that there is
a definitive winner and loser, and that's it makes sense
as a thing. But when you can just like dig.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Down, what is an invasion? True? Really? And who is
Venezuela after all? What is a government? That's right? Uh huh,
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It seems like a weird trend that the news media
is using in a weird way that we'll get into tomorrow. Oh,
also whether or not Trump will invade Greenland. There's a
lot of new action on that island, and what is
any land that's good? And Donald Trump himself getting into
(12:16):
the prediction market game with a polymarket esque expansion of
truth Social dubbed truth predict, which was announced last fall.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So oh it's good.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So that okay, Yeah, you can bet on the president's whood.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, it is again like like we were saying with
Venezuela and just being like a speed running without the
all the difficult lying and fake photographs and misinterpretations of
photographs that they had to do to justify that invasion.
Like this is the thing that's been happening wherever we've
(12:51):
talked before about politicians have it like making suspicious trades
on the stock market, and like with the stock market,
it only we only find out about it when they're
like an investigation. But with this it's just like completely
it just takes all the breaks off. There's even a
back in seventeen eighty nine, out gender Hamilton moved into
(13:11):
quote shore up the investments in state backed revolutionary war
bonds by investing a bunch of the country's money in it,
and like a bunch of congress people secretly scooped up
thousands of bonds from farmers and farmers and war veterans
payings on the dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So it's been it's in our DNA.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, what do you want from us? Come on, I
mean evil drifting. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of our
thing in the DNA. Let's take a quick break. We'll
be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So let's talk about Google's AI overview, because we've discovered it.
It's good for finding out information. My nephews googled me
over the break and discovered that I was a award
winning theater director who who also hosts the Daily Zeitgeist.
(14:12):
Oh yeah, my person, My person and the person of
like the more famous Jack O'Brien have been merged. This
guy's got a hell of a resume, man, I gotta say.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, I mean a contemporary London based sculptor as well.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I know, we're killing.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Who could forget when you were the heavyweight boxing champion
of nineteen oh five Philadelphia, Jack O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, they truly believe they just merged it all. They're like, man,
the fuck yeah, guy's killing it. Anyways, if you are
willing to trust it with medical information, you might want
to take another look. So they're actually rolling Google AI
Overview out in one hundred more countries, with one executive
(15:00):
ragging that the feature can quote actually do better than
what's on your search page, which is funny because The
Guardian just concluded an investigation and AI Overview and found
that it put people's lives at risk with quote false
and misleading health information okay. For example, what okay wrongly
advise people with pancreatic cancer to avoid high fat foods, which,
(15:23):
in reality, if patients followed that advice, they would not
be taking in enough calories, struggle to put on weight,
be unable to tolerate chemotherapy or potentially life saving surgery.
So it's like it's basically one of the first pieces
of advice that you get on Google AI Overview is the.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Exact opposite of what experts are experts, Yeah right, they're
like that's really dangerous. I was, Yeah, I just remember
I was. I was looking up stuff about liver function.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah. So, and it also gives some good advice.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah so, so some of the signs of liver disease
that you should consult a doctor about were deemed normal
googlelai overview, but also falsely claimed that a PAP test
test for vaginal cancer it does not wow. In both cases,
the as answers are potentially dissuading users from seeking out
(16:19):
the advice of actual healthcare professionals by just being like,
you're good. Like It's one thing if it's saying like
this is something to be alarmed about, but when it's
just being like, oh, you're actually just yeah, you're right,
just like something like yeah, just like try try to
eat a little bit healthier and like clean up that diet.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You don't want to be eating too much fat. You
don't want to gain weight while you're going through chemo.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Come on, dude, don't you don't want to look sloppy.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You got a geez six pack.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
When is like the first like mass accident going to
happen where a bunch of people get the same bunk
advice and end up harming themselves. I mean, you know
what I mean, It's probably just happening on a much
smaller scale over.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
The time, happening constantly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like I think they are probably guarding against doing something
like that, and instead, you know, everything is tested through
like liability and they figure out what they can get
away with, right and what they corporations operate. How can
we make this as bad as possible without facing legal liability?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And yeah, the real, the real CD dark way would
be like you get a bunch of people to find
like the same bad misinformation.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Like I guess we're gonna kind of have to fuck ourselves.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Up lightly and then we're gonna do a class action
lawsuit and we're going to own Google.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, but don't worry because just days after the Guardian
article is published, Google quietly put up a job posting
for an quote AI answers quality software engineer, which is
the first time Google has indirectly acknowledged that it's AI overviews.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Uh need some attention some QC issues, huh okay.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And in the biggest news story to come out of
a Hampton and since Jay Leno was nearly murdered by
the mafia, I don't know if you remember that, dude.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That was my favorite story. It was like I was
just going down to get something to eat and you're like,
did you throw yourself down a fucking hill? Remember?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
With his ass kick and was like, this is actually
a Chili's related injury or very steep.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hill from my Hampton end to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
They directed me too, and I didn't notice that the
line that I was, the line between the hotel and
the restaurant was sent me over a cliff right right, Jesus.
But anyways, the Minnesota location reportedly canceled reservations for ICE
agents who are visiting as part of the Trump administration's
efforts to vilify the Somali community in Minnesota. Good for them,
(18:55):
and the official Department Department of Homeland Security account is
just rage, tweeting screen grabs of their hotel reservation while
comparing themselves to Jesus's parents.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Again, this tweet says, no room at the inn.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah wow, wow, wow, you got baby Jesse on the way,
and they won't let you stay in the Hampton in Dude,
while you're out here trying to fucking harass people in
fucking Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Cool man, they're nailing it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean a great amazing way to place yourself as
the victims here to be.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Uh huh, Well, I'll tell you who's buying into that.
The media and Hilton Hilton claimed that their hotels are
welcoming places for all and suggested that the owners of
the Hampton and have apologized for the actions of their team.
Our properties are open to everyone and we do not
tolerate any form of discrimination.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Hold on, yeah, you don't tolerate any form of discrimination.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
The only type of discrimination that's currently being policed by
the media is discrimination against the guest stoppo.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a full fascism baby. Yeah, you're there.
You're there, honey.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
When you're like, dude, don't fucking hate on the fucking
evil haters.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Ah, you guys, do not discriminate against theol.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Do not discriminate against those who would discriminate against us
and lead us not into a Hampton Inn, but deliver
us from evil.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, okay, which is why I like the right is
so frequently rallying around businesses the refuse service to LGBTQ
plus because.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We can we can't expect any kind of consistency.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You thought there less protected from discrimination. People protesting the
invasion of Venezuela, a twenty two year old preschool teacher,
was arrested after conducting an interview at a protest, uh,
voicing her opposition to the Trump administration. And they so
they were like waited till the end of her interview
and then came up and arrested.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Like she's on camera, kind of wrapping it up.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
They're like, all right, come on, come on, and they
it was for like obstructing or it was like the
dumbest shit. They're like, you're constructing a roadway blah blah
blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But then just pressing her because she's saying things that
she's speaking out against this our our regime here in
the United States through the.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Back of a car, drove her off a little bit
and then like sort of being like, all right, who's
this guy? Tell us who this person is. She was like,
I'm not what, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh. They had her. They're like asking her to ID people.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Asking her to ID people, and then asked her whether
she was Venezuelan and what her connection to Venezuela was,
because they can't conceive of any non self interested reason
that someone would be opposing the illegal and wildly unpopular
invasion of another country that killed ady people or forty
to eighty people.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, what's it? What do you? What are you Venezuelan
or something? What like?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That is like the most superficial understanding of humanity.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You have to go, what do you? What are you
Palestinian or something? Right? Like? What? No, I'm I'm technic genealogy. Yeah, yeah,
what's your connection to this? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm just a concerned citizen of the earth who feels
like this shouldn't be happening to people.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Uh huh, so what you're born? Were born in Caracas
or something?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Bro? All right, those are some of the things that
are trending on this Wednesday, January seventh. We are back
tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then,
be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
your vaccines where you still can get your flu shots,
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
By The Daily Zeite.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law, co produced by
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Speaker 2 (22:37):
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Speaker 3 (22:41):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Brand
Roof Rusted. That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver. What's that
that us from a red roof rusted? The love Shack song.
Oh no, it's tin roof rusted.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh oh's roof rusted. I don't know, it's just a
random thing.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The song stops down in the middle and they say
tin roof rusted.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh oh okay, yep, wow wow wow wow.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sorry about that, guys.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was just with Bred the other day and he said,
but he loves the show.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm zite gang. I'm zite gang. Another one I love
doing that.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Was Curtousy of Vanadium Silver, who also did the MC
Trendall's yesterday, and I don't think I shouted them out,
So shout out to Vanadium Silver. King of the short
show titles. My name is Jack O'Brian. That ever, there's
Miles Gray. This see the episode where we tell you
what is trending this afternoon. It is Wednesday, January seventh,
and we are it's coming out. We already have an
(01:06):
update to Recovered this morning because everybody was on the
edge of their seat. I mean to see if the
fan theories were right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, was the.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Ending of fake ending, and they were about to drop
the real ending on all of our asses to.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That that bad ending was faked.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So you thought that that ending was bad by mistake,
It was bad on purpose because you're in the matrix.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hell yeah, hell, I still think they should have done that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I still think officially, no, it's official word. I mean
at this point, no, no episodes are out, but hold on.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Still according to the creators of the show, you want
to leave them, Uh, it's over, the Duffer said on
happy said confused that they don't intend to ever revisit
the Stranger Things characters, affirming the series finale is how
they wanted to close the book.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Which series finale though? Aha, Aha, I'm still in There's
still time, Jack, there's still time on the clock.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Netflix made the post saying all episodes of Stranger Things
are now playing. I feel like they're like leading up
this point a little open ended. Yeah, you know they're not.
They're not saying, guys, your theory is fucking stupid. They're saying,
we finished it how we wanted to. They're not saying
there will be no whatever. Forty seventh I don't know what. Yeah, yeah,
(02:32):
forty third, forty thirty third, there will be no forty third.
They're just kind of teasing us, And honestly, who are
we gonna believe? We're gonna believe the creators of the
show or this shelf of cassette tape someone's screen grabbed,
which GROC says is secretly morse code that says you
did not stop me. Fuck yeah, potentially VEKNA haunting.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean, I just love that someone really looked at
the order of the cassette tapes and goes, that's morse code.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right, I'm going to translate that you did not stop me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
But also I have to assume that this is bullshit,
like the CROC is incorrect. But I think they missed
an opportunity to do something cool and form breaking, which
seems in keeping with Netflix.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do you think the Duffer brothers would have been like, fuck,
we should have done that, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I do wonder.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, I'm sure they're like too hot, committed to
their own like this is actually the way it should
have ended. But I do wonder if there's ever I
would love to hear an author or you know, I'd
be like, damn, that was actually a sick idea. I
sure they have all sorts of reasons for not doing
(03:46):
it the way that the people, but like their reasons
are bad.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, gotta tell you. Oh, Brian said they wanted to
end it ended after season one.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hey, I would have been fine with that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then they were like, here, how about we write
you this check.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Remember that Jack, when we told at the time stuff media,
we just wanted to do one show a week, and
then they backed up the dump truck of coupons.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Actually the exact they were trying to save us from ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Don't do it daily weeklies. I guys, that ring out
in my head forever. We got from our CEO. How
about the weeklies? This seems like too much. We are
about you guys, and Razor thin teetering on the edge
of one.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Thousand episodes later. All right, big news right now is polymarket.
Yeah yeah, so this is something that I've seen kind
of trickling up through the news lately. We're going to
talk on tomorrow's episode about how integrated it got into
the news. But a big story that people are talking about,
not just that the US stage and unprecedented incursion into
(04:51):
Venezuela and kidnapped the sovereign leader and openly admitted that
they were doing it because they're the bad guys and
they just want their ow and because they can who
they're kind of like.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, he's not a good guy either, so it kind
of cancels it out right.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, people are like, nah.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The president you're setting especially for the president is fright.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But yes, they looked back at Iraq.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
We're like, the only thing, the only lesson we're taking
from that is that we shouldn't have wasted all.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That time lying to people.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We should have just been like, we're gonna do it
because they got they got oil wells, oil countries, they're
on there.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's how quickly went from it's the drugs, it's the oil.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's the oil man. You fucking got us the.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Steed running the whole Iraq war in like five weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, like that, we got to work to lie and
they get caught in the lie and everybody be like
it was a big scandal. We're just going to tell
you why we're doing this. Anyways. As a little side
quest in this story, yeah, there was a new Polymarket
account creator. Poly Market is the gambling site that allows
you to gamble on real world events the apocalypse. Yes,
(06:06):
and there was a new polymarket account created at the
end of last year that suddenly invested heavily around thirteen
thousand dollars on Maduro being quote out by January thirty first, So.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
People are like that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So that that ended up paying out at four hundred
and ten thousand dollars a bet, which people are like, hmm,
that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Hyeah.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Usually what gambling sites and casinos would define as a
suspicious bet, it would probably be oiling up their head
vices and you know, get getting ready to crack some
fingers sideways. But because polymarket is explicitly designed to be
(06:56):
a crypto market, that like you are you know you
people use crypto, so it's impossible to trace it. Like
everything in this administration is just a way to make
grifting and cheating easier to get away with.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, opacity set to one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes, so online betting on US military invasions isn't totally new.
Back in two thousand and three, online gambling sites began
offering odds on whether there will be war between the
US and Iraq.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I pay for my college.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But it's just the fact that it's completely crypto and
therefore tailor made so harder trading. It seems like it
was designed by people to make it possible.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, every inside her trade.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Every level you zoom out on, the story gets darker
and darker because so one version is like someone made
it bet for thirteen thousand dollars. It may a four
hundred k on like Maduro being out by the thirty first,
and then you're like, okay, what is this polymarket?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And the You're like, what else has been going on? Polymarket?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Other weird things that feel like someone haven't has it
inside tracked? The US are out further and you're like,
Donald Trump Junior is an advice the.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Advisor to the company. His venture capital firm invested in
the company, and he's become a major advisor.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Dad, Dad, you guys gonna take Maduro by I don't
know the thirty first or what do what do you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
God? Okay, I won't be shady this time out. I'll
bet like thirteen grand.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'll bet like thirteen grand, and it'll pay for three
weeks worth of cocaine.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The other red flag bets. Maduro's opponent, Maria Corina Machado
won the twenty twenty five Nobel Peace Prize, but her
odds began to spike on Polymarket right ahead of the announcement,
despite a highly secretive selection process. The bets even prompted
the Nobel Institute to launch an investigation into potential leaks. Similarly,
(08:46):
a user made more than one million dollars betting on
Google's year in search results by betting on the top
searches with uncanny accuracy.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I wonder who on the Google Year in Search team
made a bet on poly.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Market so that maybe maybe pay your search team better.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But what the next daily'sitgeist icons episode is going to
be of and with who?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The Noel Institute has said that it may have been
a victim of espionage, so it's not just like idle speculation.
They're like, yeah, we don't know what the fuck happened,
but we really pulled that one that pick out of
our ass and someone was betting on it, which doesn't
make any sense. So on Monday, House Democrat Richie Torres
introduced a bill that would make it illegal for government
officials to use online prediction markets to make bets on
(09:35):
political events based on privileged information.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh wow, mister A.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Democrats aren't stepping up man. Democrats are Yeah, the thing
it feels like everything, every reaction from them has just
been like mad that they're missing out.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, tell us we would have signed on.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I mean nance, but Nancy would never share her stock
tips with me. Dude, that's fucked up. And Richie Torres,
my god, like the guy owned by Apak being like,
here's a thing I'll be outraged about the betting, Go
find your soul.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Also, poly Markets seems kind of fucked up. Like, I mean,
so let's say you are prone to gamble on these
sorts of things on people's lives, and no, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Terrible because it's like if you're taking action on fucking everything. Yeah,
I mean, it's like truly what degenerate gamblers do. Like
when they're like, hey, man, what do you think, Like
you think this kid's gonna put up twenty? They're like,
this is an under thirteen kids basketball game.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I know he's got five. He's on the bench right now.
I think, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I've talked before about how my friends from college would
wager on Uh. We were like sitting at a table
killing time, and they were like, all right, which of
these four people is going to get up first, and
like they had a live, lively action going, and like
as the person would like move a little bit, they'd
be like.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh yeah, just all that for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But hey, you got polymarket now, so now you get
bet on things like the nuclear apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They also announced that they wouldn't be paying out millions
of dollars worth of bets on a US invasion of
Venezuela because they argued that President Trump's statement that they
will run Venezuela, while referencing ongoing talks with a Venezuelan government,
does not alone qualify the kidnapping to capture Maduro as
an invasion.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh that's the.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Fucked up thing is like, it's very easy to, like,
when you're taking bets on everything, it's very easy to
be like.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Still holding out on who actually.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know, the thing with sports is that there is
a definitive winner and loser, and that's it makes sense
as a thing. But when you can just like dig.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Down, what is an invasion? True? Really? And who is
Venezuela after all? What is a government? That's right? Uh huh,
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It seems like a weird trend that the news media
is using in a weird way that we'll get into tomorrow. Oh,
also whether or not Trump will invade Greenland. There's a
lot of new action on that island, and what is
any land that's good? And Donald Trump himself getting into
(12:16):
the prediction market game with a polymarket esque expansion of
truth Social dubbed truth predict, which was announced last fall.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So oh it's good.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So that okay, Yeah, you can bet on the president's whood.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, it is again like like we were saying with
Venezuela and just being like a speed running without the
all the difficult lying and fake photographs and misinterpretations of
photographs that they had to do to justify that invasion.
Like this is the thing that's been happening wherever we've
(12:51):
talked before about politicians have it like making suspicious trades
on the stock market, and like with the stock market,
it only we only find out about it when they're
like an investigation. But with this it's just like completely
it just takes all the breaks off. There's even a
back in seventeen eighty nine, out gender Hamilton moved into
(13:11):
quote shore up the investments in state backed revolutionary war
bonds by investing a bunch of the country's money in it,
and like a bunch of congress people secretly scooped up
thousands of bonds from farmers and farmers and war veterans
payings on the dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So it's been it's in our DNA.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, what do you want from us? Come on, I
mean evil drifting. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of our
thing in the DNA. Let's take a quick break. We'll
be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So let's talk about Google's AI overview, because we've discovered it.
It's good for finding out information. My nephews googled me
over the break and discovered that I was a award
winning theater director who who also hosts the Daily Zeitgeist.
(14:12):
Oh yeah, my person, My person and the person of
like the more famous Jack O'Brien have been merged. This
guy's got a hell of a resume, man, I gotta say.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, I mean a contemporary London based sculptor as well.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I know, we're killing.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Who could forget when you were the heavyweight boxing champion
of nineteen oh five Philadelphia, Jack O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, they truly believe they just merged it all. They're like, man,
the fuck yeah, guy's killing it. Anyways, if you are
willing to trust it with medical information, you might want
to take another look. So they're actually rolling Google AI
Overview out in one hundred more countries, with one executive
(15:00):
ragging that the feature can quote actually do better than
what's on your search page, which is funny because The
Guardian just concluded an investigation and AI Overview and found
that it put people's lives at risk with quote false
and misleading health information okay. For example, what okay wrongly
advise people with pancreatic cancer to avoid high fat foods, which,
(15:23):
in reality, if patients followed that advice, they would not
be taking in enough calories, struggle to put on weight,
be unable to tolerate chemotherapy or potentially life saving surgery.
So it's like it's basically one of the first pieces
of advice that you get on Google AI Overview is the.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Exact opposite of what experts are experts, Yeah right, they're
like that's really dangerous. I was, Yeah, I just remember
I was. I was looking up stuff about liver function.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah. So, and it also gives some good advice.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah so, so some of the signs of liver disease
that you should consult a doctor about were deemed normal
googlelai overview, but also falsely claimed that a PAP test
test for vaginal cancer it does not wow. In both cases,
the as answers are potentially dissuading users from seeking out
(16:19):
the advice of actual healthcare professionals by just being like,
you're good. Like It's one thing if it's saying like
this is something to be alarmed about, but when it's
just being like, oh, you're actually just yeah, you're right,
just like something like yeah, just like try try to
eat a little bit healthier and like clean up that diet.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You don't want to be eating too much fat. You
don't want to gain weight while you're going through chemo.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Come on, dude, don't you don't want to look sloppy.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You got a geez six pack.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
When is like the first like mass accident going to
happen where a bunch of people get the same bunk
advice and end up harming themselves. I mean, you know
what I mean, It's probably just happening on a much
smaller scale over.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
The time, happening constantly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like I think they are probably guarding against doing something
like that, and instead, you know, everything is tested through
like liability and they figure out what they can get
away with, right and what they corporations operate. How can
we make this as bad as possible without facing legal liability?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And yeah, the real, the real CD dark way would
be like you get a bunch of people to find
like the same bad misinformation.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Like I guess we're gonna kind of have to fuck ourselves.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Up lightly and then we're gonna do a class action
lawsuit and we're going to own Google.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, but don't worry because just days after the Guardian
article is published, Google quietly put up a job posting
for an quote AI answers quality software engineer, which is
the first time Google has indirectly acknowledged that it's AI overviews.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Uh need some attention some QC issues, huh okay.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And in the biggest news story to come out of
a Hampton and since Jay Leno was nearly murdered by
the mafia, I don't know if you remember that, dude.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That was my favorite story. It was like I was
just going down to get something to eat and you're like,
did you throw yourself down a fucking hill? Remember?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
With his ass kick and was like, this is actually
a Chili's related injury or very steep.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hill from my Hampton end to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
They directed me too, and I didn't notice that the
line that I was, the line between the hotel and
the restaurant was sent me over a cliff right right, Jesus.
But anyways, the Minnesota location reportedly canceled reservations for ICE
agents who are visiting as part of the Trump administration's
efforts to vilify the Somali community in Minnesota. Good for them,
(18:55):
and the official Department Department of Homeland Security account is
just rage, tweeting screen grabs of their hotel reservation while
comparing themselves to Jesus's parents.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Again, this tweet says, no room at the inn.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah wow, wow, wow, you got baby Jesse on the way,
and they won't let you stay in the Hampton in Dude,
while you're out here trying to fucking harass people in
fucking Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Cool man, they're nailing it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean a great amazing way to place yourself as
the victims here to be.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Uh huh, Well, I'll tell you who's buying into that.
The media and Hilton Hilton claimed that their hotels are
welcoming places for all and suggested that the owners of
the Hampton and have apologized for the actions of their team.
Our properties are open to everyone and we do not
tolerate any form of discrimination.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Hold on, yeah, you don't tolerate any form of discrimination.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
The only type of discrimination that's currently being policed by
the media is discrimination against the guest stoppo.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a full fascism baby. Yeah, you're there.
You're there, honey.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
When you're like, dude, don't fucking hate on the fucking
evil haters.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Ah, you guys, do not discriminate against theol.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Do not discriminate against those who would discriminate against us
and lead us not into a Hampton Inn, but deliver
us from evil.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, okay, which is why I like the right is
so frequently rallying around businesses the refuse service to LGBTQ
plus because.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We can we can't expect any kind of consistency.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You thought there less protected from discrimination. People protesting the
invasion of Venezuela, a twenty two year old preschool teacher,
was arrested after conducting an interview at a protest, uh,
voicing her opposition to the Trump administration. And they so
they were like waited till the end of her interview
and then came up and arrested.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Like she's on camera, kind of wrapping it up.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
They're like, all right, come on, come on, and they
it was for like obstructing or it was like the
dumbest shit. They're like, you're constructing a roadway blah blah
blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But then just pressing her because she's saying things that
she's speaking out against this our our regime here in
the United States through the.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Back of a car, drove her off a little bit
and then like sort of being like, all right, who's
this guy? Tell us who this person is. She was like,
I'm not what, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh. They had her. They're like asking her to ID people.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Asking her to ID people, and then asked her whether
she was Venezuelan and what her connection to Venezuela was,
because they can't conceive of any non self interested reason
that someone would be opposing the illegal and wildly unpopular
invasion of another country that killed ady people or forty
to eighty people.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, what's it? What do you? What are you Venezuelan
or something? What like?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That is like the most superficial understanding of humanity.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You have to go, what do you? What are you
Palestinian or something? Right? Like? What? No, I'm I'm technic genealogy. Yeah, yeah,
what's your connection to this? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm just a concerned citizen of the earth who feels
like this shouldn't be happening to people.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Uh huh, so what you're born? Were born in Caracas
or something?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Bro? All right, those are some of the things that
are trending on this Wednesday, January seventh. We are back
tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then,
be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
your vaccines where you still can get your flu shots,
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
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