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August 24, 2026 50 mins

In this edition of Trendy Trendpecker, Jack and Miles discuss Dr. Dre's newfound love for AI, Natalie Harp's longstanding love for Trump, and the rivalry between Spiderman: Brand New Day v Jason Statham's Mutiny.  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I remember feeling like such a loser when we went
to Guatemala and I was like adamant that my kids
being in their car seats, and I like, you know,
we lug lugged it down, and the second we got
on the highway, there was like a kid, my son's age,
on a dirt bikey next to us, you know, like

(00:22):
some with his like younger brother on the back. He's
on the shoulders.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
My god, No, it's funny because every time we drive,
like you know, my kids always like, do I have
to have to be in a.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Car seat here?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Because like in Japan, you don't like when you're in
a taxi, which is odd because I know Japanese would
be very cautious, but they're they're like, I don't know,
in a taxi, like that guy's a professional, Like what
could go wrong when the professional is driving it?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Right? Throw them in?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
They're loose, fucking Newborn's easy, bro, just loose.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I do feel invincible in a cab for some for
a reason, just because I guess I've never gotten into
an accident in a cab.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You don't see a lot of cab wrecks.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
But I think they just clean him up real quick.
This is my theory.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's like in New York, right, damn, it's the industry
just fucking burn it, burn it. So they don't know
what kind of car it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Was because I've been in cabs of the drive like
coming up on the sidewalk type shit, and never the
worst for the wear.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
So we were in an uber accident like a year ago.
We r on our way to the airport. We got
into the uber. The guy like reeks of alcohol, and
we're just like all right, just like get us a
lax all right, just drive.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Us, man, Maybe this will make you faster. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I love that you go. This guy's drunk, all right, man,
fuck it, let's just get it.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
We gotta go. Yeah, could be it could be hand
sanitizer if he uses beer as hand sanitizer.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
If he use his hand sanitizer as beer.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
So he like very much was that fault, and like
got into an accident with someone and we were like, dude,
he didn't notice.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
We're like, you hit.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
That guy, like you definitely hit that guy, like that
other car and he's like what I think he was
like changing lanes or whatever, So like sideswipe somebody and
then he just like got off the highway like dumped
us in a like some parking lot. We're like, okay,
I guess we just call another uber.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Wow, you're lucky that he didn't take out the witnesses.
You know, truly, we got to make a stop real quick.
Here by the Pine Barrens. There's Pine Barrens. I will

(02:43):
say I did not intend to give the impression that
I've I feel invincible in ubers ubers. I feel very capable.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Of getting a different different It's it's someone who's like
had to go through the trials and tribulations of becoming
a cab driver.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That yeah, yeah, they've seen it all. Yeah, specifically talking
about like New York studied. Yeah, they've done They've blamed
the work.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Because like they don't even like you know, like like
London cabbies the knowledge.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, they have like an extra brain that they've had
to grow. Grow that where I'm like, yeah, bro, you
can be I don't care you're drunk. You know this,
like you're you could be brain dead and you still
know where things are. Yeah. I've been in an uber
where the person was flying on cocaine and watching YouTube
at the same time, like holding a conversation with me
that didn't make any sense, but was like still, you know,

(03:32):
he had a word It seemed like he had a
word count. He was trying to meet while watching YouTube
while speeding down the highway.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
So my dad texted me from an uber that I
think he may have thought was going to be his
last ride.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Hey man, I just want you to know that I
love you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
This guy was just flying too and was just awesome
being like, hey man, you want to hear some of
my music?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And my dad was.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay, no, But my dad is really good at talking
to people who are like kind of a couple frequencies
off a little bit, especially if they have like a
creative thing, because like, man, I just got these ideas
and then my dad just used that for him to
go into profession mode. He goes like, well, you know,
you just gotta like just figure out steps. Man, He's like,
just figure out steps. So what you got a single?

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now? What is that?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Are you building towards an album? We gotta do some
more songs. You have producers like He's like, man, this
is crazy. Man, I never thought about this.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
He was the industry man. No no, no, no, no, no.
Oh An insurance salesman.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm just a guy sweating a lot because he's nervous
because you're.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh you flying to man, Yeah, fucking on a plane later.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition
of Dirty's Like Geist. My name's Jack O'Brien. I'm sure
to be doing by very relaxed mister Miles Grig.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I'm gone. I'm gone, baby, I'm off that wood.
Let me figure it, let me read rework that one.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm back off.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
From my summer trip.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Thank you nice. We're trying to figure out where you
were when you were going. I did not succeed until yeah,
Brown will.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Till at the end of the week, and well I
told him a lie. Yeah, so you'll never hear it's unknown.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I just I just go into my like I just
stay in my my bedroom dark one week, just fucking
on pause, just letting my brain regenerate.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Tell your family that you're working, Yeah, I know. Yeah, Yeah,
it's crazy. It's crazy at the office right now. I
need a little space, babe.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Your computer's out here.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, it's just a lot of a lot of conceptual
work I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Why do I hear tubin throat singing coming from the
room whole time. I'm trying to get these harmonies.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Remember when that was like that rock band came out
and everyone's like.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Dude, this is the sickyt shit. This is the future
of music. Yeah, that shit's cool. I still fuck with
that good good throat singing. There's a rapper who is
a tuvem throat singer. That was pretty fun. Yeah, there's
like a metal band that also does that too.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I realized they're pretty they're pretty sick too.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Anyways, if you don't know what we're talking about, go
check out tum throat Singing. But my name is Jack,
that's Miles. This is the episode where we tell you
what was trending over the weekend, and we let you
get to know us a little bit better by telling
you some things that we think are overrated and underrated.
Do you want to kick us off with something that
you think is underrated? Underrated?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think it's underrated that we have no iconic toddler
characters from film, m television. Maybe in the Ulson Twins.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, you know how rude. That's not the closer one
actually yeah, yeah that was Stephanie. But you know she
would also pick up on that because it's the one
character type that Hollywood can't pull off on screen.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I'm trying to think of if.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's so the kid from Jerry Maguire too Old, too old,
Jonathan Nikki, that guy was a fucking retired hack by
what the age range I'm talking about, dude, I'm talking
two to three, homie, I'm talking you're basically you're in diapers,
barely out of diapers. But you got you got a
little wit about you, you got a little personality, you got

(07:21):
a little because I look at my own kid and like,
my friend's kids are like, these motherfuckers are fucking cute,
And I'm like, but and then I thought, I'm like,
there's no.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Way to capture this in a movie. There just isn't.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like those are things that live loose in our like
sort of memories, are fleeting memories of human life as
we go day to day. Because a they're too young
to be directed, right, They're too young to work any
meaningful amount of time on set. They are truly unicorns
that cannot be captured on celluloid.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm just happy as you were pitched to Hollywood. You're like,
I got lightning in a bottle over here, guys.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Here is what do you do ai toddlers?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's every day you don't make a movie with my son,
you're away money. No.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I just think it's so funny, Like it's just like
one of those things that it's just this sweet spot
of like technical limitation, labor limitations.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I do think people underrate how fun it's going to
be to be a parent because there's it's under represented
and the version that we do get in movies. Yeah,
because it's not it's boss baby. You know, the kid's
not going to be Alec Baldwin. Okay, as much as
I help pray parents that all the time, I pray.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Every fucking night that my kid turns into Alec Baldwin
when I open this bedroom door the next morning, you
better be a full grown Alec Baldwin in there when
I open the door, be giving Baldwin. But yeah, I
think it's it's one of those things that social media
can capture, obviously, because that's a completely different thing. We
have so many iconic toddlers from social media.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Linda Honey that Linda.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Looktt you know what I mean, look a butter baby.
You know what I mean classics. It never ends, it
never ends. But again, it's just I think I just
was just thinking about there's a deep shower thought I
had when I was like, damn, bro, like even like
Oscar from Ghostbusters too, but his ass wasn't even talking
like it's just baby like you just get that kind

(09:15):
of shit. But no, no real toddler, riz, bro, you
can't capture.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
It on film and TV. So maybe like you could
swap any baby, that would be one place I'd be
okay with them using AI to just like swap him
like just makes babies. It for like you could use
AI to make a realistic baby.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's a job that you can't even take. You can't
take from someone.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And if you are taking it, like it's a weird,
it's weird job that like you're putting a baby in
a very strange situation, like these need to be the
real thing.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay, although I have a feeling you'd immediately be like
this is the weirdest fucking AI. It would just like
make me so unnerving.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
But hey, again, that's a challenge to all the aspiring
AI armies out there, normalizers out there.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, bring American Sniper the top three babies in movies
Ghostbusters to American Sniper. That kid had it. I don't
know what it was, man, that kid was giving Mitch
McConnell at a vod rama inane of it. I'm sure

(10:25):
people know about the baby and American Sniper.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That was a Google American Sniper baby.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Clint Eastwood has a tendency apparently on set, he's just like,
I think we got it. Like after one take. Every
time people are like, wait, no, I flubbed my lines.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I'm too old, sorry, too old, I'm too old for
this ship. To do another take. We're moving on.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Doll's head came off that I was holding. Yeah, no,
that's great. We'll write it in. We'll write it into
the movie. Then that's that's part of the movie. Now,
all right, I got two underrateds. Toilet on curb is
one underrated. When you see a toilet, it on the curb.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
He's just going, all right, hell, yeah, brother.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
There's something powerful about seeing that specific Like we we
pretend that it's like having a couch on the curb,
but having a toilet, that specific object in the context
of like being out in the world feels to me
like the inanimate object equivalent of a streaker. It's like, oh, whoa, hey,

(11:30):
I can't show me that. You can't show me that
about yourself and expect me not to do something, expect
me not to picture you pooping on that thing.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Have you ever taken it? I look, I'm not proud
of it. I to know you have not not pooped
in it. I've peed in a street toilet before. You've
peed in a streak drunk. Yeah, there's a street There's
a street toilet discarded, and everyone took turns being.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
In it were in many ways.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I guess it's like in an alley and you go,
it's a toilet, even though like it just comes out
to bottom.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Is the hey man, what do you can't they actually can't.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Rescue I'm not joking.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, so, yeah, well I thought it was a public toilet.
But I do wonder like if that you know, there's
that urin oal modern art piece where someone just like
put a urinal on a wall. I'm thinking it's it's
borrowing from this same power that that I'm observing. There's
like I can remember there's been two toilets on the

(12:35):
curb of the past like year in my neighborhood, and
I can remember each one and like exactly where they were.
Like it just really like sticks. You ever take a picture, No,
I don't want to. I don't want to be weird.
I mean I just sit there and kind of stare
at it and meditate a little bit and on it.

(12:56):
Put my hand on it, and put my other hand
over my heart, and know, just respect it, my hand
over my heart. Man the other underrated I have his
fire towers. I thought this was like an outdated technology,
but it's apparently still the best way to detect forest
fires early. There's like one of those like.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Short profiles, like people who chill in the fire towers.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, just like killing a fire tower profile, the guy
who oversees the New Jersey fire towers and he gets
up there, they like see a puff of smoke, like it.
It's a very busy job, especially in this modern era.
And like they have machines that help you like pinpoint
where the smoke is, so you're not just like I

(13:42):
see smoke to the west, Bear, it's up Bear. Then
it seems like there's a fire down to shore. But
all the flat cameras in the world can't beat a
guy in the tallest treehouse in the state, you know,
just like braving getting struck by lightning. They must have
that shit like grounded to the center of the earth,

(14:05):
but the swaying must be very uncomfortable. But yeah, it's
true what they say. Where there's smoke, there's fire, and
so they it's just like, yeah, if there's gonna be
a forest fire and we're like three hundred feet up,
like we're going to see it before anybody, right, right.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean, I didn't know it was a thing until
one of my friends, who was like between jobs, was like,
I am just going to volunteer to do this thing
because I like being out in the forest and like
you can kind of help. And I didn't realize it
was as simple as like human being uses eyes to
scan the landscape looking for any sign of smoke.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I also assumed they had to work in shifts, but
according to a Reddit thread, so I don't know how
accurate this is, but like fire activity greatly decreases at night,
or at least the starting of new fires greatly decrease
at night, which would also be very hard to spot
because it's dark out right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,

(15:02):
they say that like it's actually very rare for fires
to kick off during the night because there's a lot
of humidity and much less wind. So, oh, the humble
fire tower the perfect technology that I assumed had gone
out in like the early nineteen hundreds. I was assuming that,

(15:23):
like we had come up, that there was like some
some other thing that they had up there. But yeah, no,
just have a guy up there and a pot.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Of coffee, you know, yep, just watching over us.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, what is something, Miles do you think is overrated? Uh?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Something I think is overrated? Big ass slices of avocado
on a sandwich. They're they're so aesthetic, like people do
it for the aesthetic, Like you like to see them
all kind of like fanned out like a little slice
to slice.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It, like those little slices.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, I sometimes they go too hard because I wanna
be like, look at much avocado.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Look how much avocado there is on this sandwich.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I gave you extra avocado.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Now give me my tuna because I love I'm not
saying I don't like it on the sandwich. It's the
way it should be. I'm here to say, we got
to be crushing it. We got to be crushing it. Man,
it can't be these too big ass slices, because that's
how you get slippage. That's how you start shooting. The
shit starts shooting out the back and the sides. Whoop,
fuck all that. Okay, I get it. I don't need

(16:28):
as long you know what avocado is, so just mash
it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Or we need more.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
We need like a standardized set of rules so we
understand how to construct a sandwich when using avocado slices,
to not just put it between like slippery cheese and
like cucumbers.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I don't want that thing pooping out the back of
my sandwich when I take it light.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Or have you ever done the thing where you're trying
to combat slippage and.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Using it at the back, like you have to have
like all every angle around they and you look like
a fucking squirrel eating an acorn.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
You're like, like, what the fuck are you?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Are you playing a harmonica? There are times like eating
a burrito or a sandwich is going really badly, and
so I do it as fast as possible. You gotta
say fuck it, dude, Yeah yeah, I just we're we're
going in this whole sandwich is going in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Now, this is probably a seven paper towel job when
I'm done with this. But this is what I have
to do because I'm not gonna because then the other
thing is once you put it down, it's over. It's
gonna fall apart. You can't put it down. You have
to be holding it the whole time. Anyway, let's stop
with the big slices. I get that they look nice
in like visually, experientially, it's it's very frustrating.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's very like tomatoes. Tomatoes, if you give me too
thick a slice is gonna poop out the back and
I don't I don't need it. I love tomatoes on
a sandwich.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Personally, I hate tomatoes on a sandwich.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, well you know it's it's the Jersey in me
them Jersey tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Is that New Jersey a big tomato state? I think so,
I mean you are the it is the garden state.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I'd imagine that I think they have good I said.
For some reason, I just said I said that, like
everybody was, yeah, like, oh, well, New Jersey in their tomatoes.
It is the one thing it's known for. Of course,
when I tell people I'm going to the Jersey Shore.
They don't say oh with snookie. They say, ah, enjoy
the tomatoes. My good man.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Oh whoa, they got one the Retguz tomato rockers tomatoes.
There's a regus tomato.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
All right. This totally might just be a thing that, like,
my family is like, we like the Jersey tomatoes. I'm like, no,
it sounds like a thing. Like it does sound okay,
Thank god, I was about to humiliate my whole family.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
People love them if they're on farm stands. Apparently the
soil is very good for tomato tomatoes. Yeah for tomates,
good for you?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
All right? Overrated is songs about love, okay, partying, dancing
or like how awesome you are? I feel like we
and there's probably other like main food groups of songs,
but like I and many of my favorite songs are
about this. But I talked in the weird Al episode

(19:23):
that in addition to being the person who nailed writing
funny songs to into popular songs like what a concept?
Like what a concept to be first too, he's also
the only person who really consistently makes songs about food.
It's like cheeseburger and Paradise. When the moon hits your
eye like a big pizza pie and then weird al

(19:46):
songs is like the only food song and like that's
that's a big chunk of human experience, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, I guess has a food song been number one?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Probably not? You know what I mean? Yeah, like cheeseburger
in Paradise is not a is not a number one
when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza
pie based.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
On about that's not about eating though, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I know it's it's a major it's a major theme though.
It's such a power overpowering metaphor that I'm gonna give
it to them. And I do have to assume that
that was the number one song in Italy from nineteen
oh one to nineteen seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Easily was there were there other songs?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
No? That was it? Yeah, yeah, that's that's it. But
I also I have a neighbor who's always playing that
Isley Brothers I Got Work song. I Got work, Babe,
I got work, I got a job babe, Like every
morning before they go to work.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Okay, Oh, Like that's like they're like way like they're
more than.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
They're richual They're like get pumped to go to work.
So on I was realizing, like there's not that many
work songs either, Like there's nine to five that song,
But most of the songs are like, you know about
knocking off work for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, or work in it, you know what I mean.
It's not about the boy.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's not yeah, that's about I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
But like I feel like the band had songs like that,
you know, like King Harvest, Like there's things about like
get up and doing all that and working.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah. I think that there's definitely work songs, especially like
from the past, but I feel like it's not a
thing like so many songs now are just like well no,
I mean, no one wants to do anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
No one wants to work these days, I know.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But we need music to get put a little pep
in our step. Birthday songs you got Stevie, you got
the Beatles, but that's and and fifty. But like we
have a handful of classics. But I'm just I do
feel like spreading the focus of music could be a
good idea. It could be something worth doing because it's

(21:47):
it's just like weird Al did it as a bit.
But I do feel like I don't know when you
literally when you google songs about food, it's Cheezburger and
Paradise and then weird al and h moon hit your
eye like big Pizza Butt.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Or like that verse from sugar Hill Gang.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Have you ever gone over your friend's house to eat
and the food just ain't no good good?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, exactly, and the chicken tastes like.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Wood U producer Catherine points out, put the lime in
the coconut. You drink a book together. That's actually a
song about medicine, because that's that's actually being prescribed by
a doctor. Yeah. Yeah, but songs about songs about medicine
also not they're not enough of those doctors feel good.
Drugs drugs. I guess what is drugs? I would put

(22:35):
in the category of we've got We've got a lot
of songs about drugs.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think that's the thing is because when you like consumption, right,
it is like the broader category a lot about consuming
drugs because it does something buying ship It's just like
when you when you eat food, it's always the same
thing as like you ate the food, you're tired, and
you took a ship.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's kind of it.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You could you could take mushrooms and the walls could
start melting, you could grow angels, wings, You're getting all
there's just the possibilities are endless with a drug song.
And I think maybe that's what it is. We need
to be eating more food.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Maybe and Action Brownson they don't have songs that are
all about food necessarily, but they have lyrics that are
They got loose food lines for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, maybe the cycle Spora thing will inspire like a
new form of like kind of like hardcore.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I hat food but shit went dark? Yeah kind of song.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah. Just a note for the songwriters out there, the
world is your waster.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Just a note for you out there. How about this
a Toddler character that writes a hit song about eating
in a movie.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm just saying, just say, Toddler character is ai. We
just say, Hollywood, thank you, let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're bad. We're back. I
don't I don't know which of my neighbors is playing

(24:04):
that song. I have to it is someone. Yeah, Well,
I go in my backyard every day.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
But I'm saying even then, like it's loud enough where
you're like.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's loud enough yeah, and they are singing along to it,
are feeling it, and they they've got a good voice.
But I have to like, when I'm picturing who it is,
I am picturing somebody in their twenties going to their
first job, like they you know, haven't had a beat
out of them yet. Oh, or maybe they just like
love their job.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
It's either your first job or you're on the brink
of retirement, or like you're part of that nice You're
like a boomer who's like and everything's being pretty great the.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Whole way through. It's actually amazing. I just keep buying
stock market stuff and it keeps going up, and I
get bonuses every year from my boss, even when we
shit the bed and cash to the economy. Hey, speaking
of people who love their job. Yeah, Miles, when you
were away, did you catch wind of I know you

(25:03):
said that you were trying to stay up off Twitter,
but Natalie Hartton, I feel like that was contained in
the week that you were out with all my heart, Jack,
with all my heart, your heart, you found out about it.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I found out about it. I mean I could the
things are.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
She was bubbling up ever since the airplane switcheroo, and
she ended up on the safe plane and then people
that were actually in the line of succession on the
desk plane, and they were like, huh hmm, oh, you know,
we broably need to be because people have been writing
about her for a long time. But I think that
is a human printer. Yeah, yeah, that's what did it.

(25:41):
And I think because also to every now and then
they would do the thing. We're like, you know, a
lot of the time, she's the one really figuring out
what to post on Trump's behalf and it felt like, oh,
an excuse to be like, Trump's not racist, He's just
has this young lady with the.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Fears social media who is most friends. Yeah. Yeah. Last
week kicked off with what seemed like an accusation of
sitting in a tree KI S S I n G,
but soon became much weirder so that you know, os
Off said President would rather take trips with Natalie than
do his job. By the way, Osof had a great
interview over the weekend where he's like the Green New Deal,

(26:17):
no medicare for all, no, no, yea anyway, so you're
so he will be allowed to be the demo.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
See the establishment, they're just they have googly eyes. For
John Ossoff because he was like, uh, I.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Mean the freaking out about uh Nixon and just like
Angie Nixon, like anybody who is for medicare they the
meat there? Proxies in the mainstream media are like going
at them like it's fucking Watergate. Yeah and so, but
have you watched a Hassan Piker video? I know, we

(26:57):
just accused you him of being the mastermind behind in
your campaign. You had to point out that you've never
met him, but you've watched some of his videos.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Surely love his videos, don't you.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
You're I'm obsessed with I can tell you're like so
obsessed with him.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
She should have been like, I'm forty two fucking years old, right,
I'm not watching. I'm sorry, I'm not watching Hassan Piker's
live stream. I know who Hassan Piker is. I'm forty
two years old.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Okay, I am not watching and I'm doing other things.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Anyways, back to Natalie, So, people who work for the
president started coming forward with leaks that like this has
been a thing they've had their eye on for a while,
and they more seem to be like she's she seems
like a little unhinged and so we start getting these,
and also her brother came out and was like, she's

(27:47):
been obsessed with other presidents before. So we finally start
getting the letters over the week, like after we recorded
our last episode. First there was the photo of her
sprinting behind his golf cart.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Looking like white woman T one thousand or whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yes, just looking yeah, straight terminator vibes, but with like
a deranged smile on her face. Yeah, we're at the
very least in her heart.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
When seen in Happy Gilmour when that actor who played
Jaws is chasing after Shooter McGavin but so labored, he's like, er,
like it's gonna get this monstrous feel to it.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, no other runners visible in the picture, just her,
just one one person sprinting as as everybody else.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Is funny because like it's clear from just third party
observers ago this is so fucking off and weird.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
But for Trump, he's like, she look at that devoted,
devoted and for her, she's like, I'm loyal. Meanwhile everyone
else is like this is uh.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Okay, giving Selena. So then we got to see some
of the letters that had been described by the New
York Times, and one of them was apparently after the
golf trip and the sprinting fiasco. She calls it walking
the course. Uh, the internet is calling it insane bolt,
which but she's specifically like apologizing while being like, I

(29:13):
just I like wasn't thinking straight. I can't sleep, I
can't eat you. I just want to be happy together forever.
Like that is straight up the tone of the letters.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I would never do anything like it was just like
very like weird relationship. Yeah, you're looking at some weird
emotional manipulation from both sides.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
To like failing relationship on tilt is like what it
feels like. Yeah, yep, yep, yep she was.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
And then the thing where she like hopped in the
trunk of a car.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, opped in the trunk of a car to get
in with the press. They were like, sorry, sorry, Natalie,
there's there's no room. Yeah, fuck it. Yeah jumping. Did
she tell the president that she was jumping in the
trunk of a car or was it like a cape
fear situation? Yeah? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And then point what is a secret service do? They're like,
we let her fucking that.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
She doesn't even have security clearance, which is also.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
But she controls the President's phone.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes huh. Harp apologizes for having sprinted after the president
for lack of a golf cart. I want things to
always be right between us, she allegedly wrote. I see
myself being lowered in your eyes and good opinion. Good
opinion is such a like early like Puritan term. I
feel like in your good opinion. So that is the

(30:33):
fear you see, because I never want to bring you
anything but joy. I'm sorry I lost my focus. You
are all that matters to me. I don't want to
ever let you down.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
This is also like I feel like if you like
people who finessed old people for their like to take
their will, take over the will. I feel like they
talk like that too, sure, like to someone on there
on their deathbed.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I only I only care about you, and they go,
oh yes, yes, yeah, of course I'll give you everything now,
thank you, my dear Natalie.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, which he has set like in those turns, he's like,
my staff will all leave me. My family is off
making money, but Natalie will always will always be with me.
She will never leave me. Her letters have been signed
with all my heart, and the second letter is signed always.
The second letter she describes as being envious of people

(31:24):
whose only job seems to be to talk with you
and look pretty, adding, I want that job.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah you mean, wife, What are we talking about here,
Marco Rubiania.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yes, probably not hard.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Gets to look cute all day and just talk to you.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I want that job.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I know stuff about Foragen and Foragen Pollock POLAIKEI.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
She does have his random you know, punctuation and capitalization
down to like to the degree that it's like, did
she study a course in how to capitalize like him?
Because she, I mean, she's a little more subtle with it,
but she does just randomly capitalized words. And yeah, let

(32:15):
me see. This is a direct quote from the letter
that was leaked by The Daily Beast. I'm just trying
to stay afloat with all that's coming in for you.
I look like a hunchback who didn't have time to
freshen up at least you know what I should look like. Plus,
I missed the days when you used to call during
my talk show days and we'd talk about everything and nothing.

(32:36):
I want to get back to that synergy. We shouldn't
have to talk about work all the time. I've always
felt like an in between her somewhere between staff and
those you enjoy talking to on the plane or at dinner,
because that's who I used to be to you when
I was a quote talk show host. Both capitalized for something.
As much as I hated that actual job, I wish

(32:57):
I could hear every conversation, because that's when you're having
a good time getting away from it all, at least
for a few moments.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Jack, you just took seven years off of my life
reading that out loud, as my brain processed that, well,
everything is falling apart. This is this is what's happening
at the highest level is some fucking weird junior high
school note passing fest. Yeah, and it's like, I miss
you so much. And then her brother's so weird too,
That family sober. That guy's like a Sandinista who like

(33:26):
he's like all into like Marxist politics and shit. But
like I think he lives in Nicaragua or something.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
He's down fighting fighting a civil war or something like
what is this family? Like? Truly that's what they are?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Miles, Yeah, yeah, wow, and she she like that's her
thing though, right the brother was saying, it's.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Like yeah, she's uh, this isn't the first president she's
like obsess much over.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
She was writing to George W. Bush to and like
his I The implication of the way he talks about
it is that like and something had to be done
to make her stop writing to George W. Bush. I
just want to read how she closed it out to
modify a classic. I could not have parted with you

(34:17):
to anyone less worthy, And I will add it is
I who is unworthy always, Natalie. Yes, my hands looked
worse than Scotland and Ireland because the cold turns the
old scars purple. Still on the road to recovery. That's
a weird detail. That is weird.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Why are we what's that detail about the state of
your hands that you're sharing with the president?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, conversation, but there.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Always talking about like, ah, I look so ugly, right,
but like I just want to be able to like
look pretty and be with you. I just want to
be with you.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
This little PostScript is doing a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
My hands looked worse in Scotland and Ireland because the
cold turns the old quote unquote scars purple. So this
feels you're referencing a conversation right in which there was
a tension to the state of your hands, by the president.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
You have pretty hands, Natalie, Like, what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Pretty little hand here, Natalie. Oh, look, my hand's so
much bigger than yours. That's so funny. You have such
a little hands. When do you get these what's the
little burble lines on there? Oh they're my old Well,
they're not scars, they're just I don't know when they
when the.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Weather's called scars, the doctor calls them scars. I call
them learning material.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, exactly, They're called bravery.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
That's called my bravery receipts. Still on the road to recovery.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I don't want to know in what context you guys
are looking at each other's hands, holding each other's hands.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
It was that time that you told me to shred
some financial documents and then halfway through told me not
to and I had to reach into the shredder to
pull anyways, very very strange. I wish I wish that
happy couple the best.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I meant it all. It has all the hallmarks of
what we've been talking about. You at the center, an elderly,
senile man with multiple parties trying to get whatever they
need to out of him because he has no idea
he has no wherewithal to understand how he's being used,
what other people's aims are. And again not to say
he's not responsible or has no agency in all of this,

(36:19):
but like that's the state of what this White House is.
It's just a bunch of it's don't tell mom, the
babysitters dead. Some people are saying that, so this is
actually evidence he's not wearing diapers because like when his
pants like puffet, that was just Natalie hiding back there.
She was just hiding it because she had to. They
didn't ever room for she had to be close to him.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I can't even do anything. I can't do anything terrible.
All right, let's talk about the state of the mainstream
Democratic Party. Keem Jeffries meeting with Jared Kushner for what
for what? Like, of all the people to be meeting,
like the person who is so unpopular he is kicked
off of fucking civil or like yeah, you know, like

(37:02):
that just has stayed out of the limelight other than
being the chief negotiator of the biggest failure of the
Trump administration. Yeah, and he's like, with this is my
chance to do to what end Ikim Jefferes, you won't
even meet with like DSA candidates who are like winning

(37:24):
and have energy.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
No, I cannot, absolutely not. It might show you who
I'm actually in league with, if you if you just
zoom out a bit, because I don't know, I mean,
like came Jeffrey seems to really be interested in finding
common ground with the administration that has no issue with
like threatening them with lengthy jail.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Sentences for nothing. That's who you're trying.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Okay, Okay, sure, I'll assume that maybe you didn't think
that was much of an existential threat. I mean, Trump
keeps talking about he's like, damn, I'm gonna get zip
being it.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Beached, everyone getting impeached with if they take the mid terms,
And I'm all I want to do is be with
my sweet Natalie.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So I think that's just gonna happen. I guess, And
I guess maybe Jeffries saw this as a chance. The
way The New York Times wrote about this was just
saying the rare like so apparently they met in New
York City in a private meeting. Said the rare engagement
was held in a private space in New York City
offered by it offered up by a mutual friend of
the two men. Oh what what cool person is that?

(38:27):
I know HAKEM. Jeffries and Jared Kushner and I'm with
both of them. Yeah, oh wow. That sounds like a
great sounds like somebody that's on our side.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Shows you that if you have mutual friends like that,
are you really ops?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
According to people to the knowledge of the meeting and
the third who was briefed on it, they and others
were granted anonymity to discuss the meeting through aids. Neither
men would comment on the session, which is described by
one person with knowledge of it as a broad conversation
on a range of topics.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Okay, still, it's gotta be good.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Still It's timing underscored that those around mister Trump were
well aware of the likelihood of a Democratic led House
and trying to foster as much of a working relationship
as possible before any change. Mister Jeffries is in line
to be the speaker, so if they know where they
to win, he would get the gavel again Trump. They
even said he's called Jeffries a thug and that may

(39:17):
called him a low IQ person. Again his time honored
insults against black like journalists or politicians, but still like,
we don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
The thing that Haakim Jeffries kind of acknowledged about all
of this was that, well, you know, to be able
to get some legislation through, we will need to be
working with the White House, Right, But like, what exactly
could they find common ground on?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
And I bet that legislation is going to be good?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, what are what are they going to find common
ground on that? Working people, normal people in the US
go oh wow, they got that done. It's not going
to be healthcare, so what the fuck are we talking about.
It's not going to be climate it's not going to
be affordable housing. Trump literally I fucking turned his back
on signing that because like now, I don't want to
sign this bilateral piece of legislation. It's not going to

(40:06):
be immigration.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
So which of the fucking priorities American voters have will
they work together on?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Exactly? Working together? That's the priority? What could you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Honestly, the only common ground I think they have is
to smother like the emergence of progressive.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And leftist candidates, right, Yeah, And if I had to guess,
that's what they would be working on.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
They'd be like, look, bro, I know you don't like
it from your Zionist perspective. I don't like it from
our defensive capitalism and also Zionists and also many other things.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
They're a threat to the status quo.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
And I think we both agree that we like this
status quo because it allows people like us to meet
here in New York City in private and just kind
of shoot the shit with a person in Jared Kushner,
who allegedly who he said, He's like, I'm not gonna
have really anything to do with this administration, but to
your point up top, you're running point on all these
very very you know, serious form power as the issues.

(41:01):
But yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't
know what they could.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Be usurping an Albanian island for.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, hey, but that's not going to it.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
They're gonna do beautiful things with it. Yeah, the Albanians
are revolting, which is kind of cool. All right, let's
take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
about some pop culture stuff. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
And we're back. We're back, and we're back. We're back, Yankovic, and.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
We're back and we're back. Doctor Dre has added to
the chorus of people who are like AI, good.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Hey, it's cool with me. Don't look at my investments.
I think it's cool me and Jimmy I Avien nothing
to hide here.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, he's a uh, he is a billionaire first and foremost.
I don't I don't think there's a single billionaire that
you can point to who is not who you can't
say immediately after first and foremost, he's a billionaire first
and foremost. That that is that to get to be
a billionaire, that has to take presidents over everything else.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
You are not the person that people once knew to
get there, even though like you got lucky with your
beats By Dre, there a huge chunk of that came
from the Beats by Dre, you know, Monster Audio deal
way back. But honestly, like once doctor Dre started dressing
like Steve Jobs, it was over, you know, I mean
he only he's only wearing all black, like tight shirts.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
And ship it's it's it's a wrap. But if first
it was timbaland now it's doctor Dre. He did an
interview with The New York Times.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I'm part of it.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
He was defending AI and music, And he sounds like
every other dickhead that is leveraging their careers to like
normalize AI usage and music. It's a it's a tool,
basically what he's saying. He said, quote, I.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Think the only people that see it as a threat
are the people who have trouble creating. Wait, what the
fuck are you talking about, motherfucker?

Speaker 3 (43:02):
What they trouble creating?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Well, let me we're talking about the people who actually
know what goes into creating music, what goes into creating
the fucking works of art, compositions that.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
People will remember. Yeah, Okay, he goes on. He said,
I had a discussion with a few people a few
days ago. They were against AI, and I'm like, okay,
you sound like the person that would have been against
the drum machine when it came out, or synthesizers.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Right, it's a new tool for creativity. Some people are
afraid of learning new things. First of all, you ignorant dickhead.
A synthesizer is still an instrument and requires you to
know how to play a fucking piano and all the
theory that goes along with it. A drum machine is
a sampler, and I know what you're saying, are we
talking about a drum machine as a sampler. Are we

(43:47):
talking about a step sequencer to sequence drums? Because even
if you're sequencing drums on a grid, you still had
to have an understanding of rhythm and rhythmic structure to
be able to sequence a drum beat. And if you're
just sampling a drum beat and chopping it up, you
still need to know what parts you are chopping up.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
What is a kick drum, what is a snare drum,
what's a high hat? And then playing that all together
to create a new rhythm. It still requires some amount
of artistry and talent to operate. It's not like fucking AI,
which requires none, and you could literally type dre type
beat enter and then it shits something out like again

(44:26):
without some kind of musical ability. Those tools that Drey
is referring to can't do shit without the operator knowing
something about music.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
That's like when you.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Put a baby in front of a piano and they
just go, yeah, I mean that shit. Those same keys
could play a rochmaninoff composition or in the hands of
someone who doesn't know what it's doing, just pure noise,
and I think that's just such a stupid fucking argument
to do the like the Luodite kind of thing, like whoa,
you probably against this, sorry, bro, synthesizers still a keyboard

(44:59):
and Herbie Hancock was one of the main people pushing
that out, and he was one of the best jazz pianists.
What are you fucking talking about?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
This is more like those pre installed rhythms on the
keyboard where you press it and it like starts playing
a song. Yeah, and they just hit a key like
every once in a while, and when someone's like, well,
you're not actually playing that, i'd being like, you're a hater, dude,
you're actually anti creative. I like I pressed that button.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I think, And that's a time honored moment for most
kids who step up to one of those things. You
get up to the cassio, you hit calypso, and then
you just pretend you're going like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I'm doing look what I'm doing, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Anyway, So, one thing I have noticed that both timbaland
Andre are like these legendary producers that audiences.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Believe are just in the lab solo cooking this shit up.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Because first of all, no, that's not how most producers
don't operate like that. Maybe like you're Jay Dillas and
some other people who were like, I have this NPC,
I'm a singular person.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
This is what I'm making.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
A lot of these guys, they hire musicians to put
sounds together for them, and their ability to curate all
of that helps make the final thing we hear like
a I would definitely help them divide less of their
royalty checks since they wouldn't be legally bound to give
the session musicians a cut that came in, like for
the people that come in and like, oh, here's like

(46:19):
a few guitar riffs you can sample, man, thanks for
paying me for that session, or here's a piano.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Phrase to loup.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Like watch any video of these guys quote making a beat.
They are always with at least two to three other
musicians who you've never heard of. You don't know who
that person is, but you know they're sitting next to them.
They're also playing. These are the people they don't want
to share the money with. Sure, Like there's still Dre
that piano sample.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I've seen him play that in videos that imply that
he is like just sitting there playing.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
And so that whole thing that's Scott Storch. Scott's Stortch
played that that's the keyboard player from the roots, and
also he had his own producer career. But these aren't
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Like, when I see it like that, it's like, oh,
you you found a way to be like nah, not
fuck that. Like if I can just be like, AI,
make this little piano thing, and I'm sure you probably
know how to get it, to get a tune out
of it, so to speak, but I just see it
just seems like a very cynical way to be, like
cutting the sort of spirit of collaboration out of music
for these people who just are like looking greed and

(47:28):
greed and still want to say that it's just a tool.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's a tool. It's just a tool that is gonna
make it so that my work is worse and that
I have to pay fewer people right right right, which great?
Perfect mm hmmm, all right. And finally, Jason Statham's QAnon
coded action movie came out this weekend. We were all
waiting for it. We had a feeling it was gonna

(47:51):
throne Spider Man and it did no Actually it did
didn't do shit. Made seven point five million dollars. It's
stars Jason Statham as ex cop Cole Read. I feel
like they just have a bank of name first name's,
last names that they're just like poetry magnets, like for

(48:12):
naming these guys. But he goes after a human trafficking
ring on a boat. Oh, he wanted to try and
get a taste of that sound of freedom money, you
know what I'm saying. Oh, But it didn't go that well,
and a couple things went wrong. Amazon released it before

(48:33):
the week before it came out in theaters. They just
like released it. And the other thing that went wrong
is nobody noticed pirates didn't give enough of a shit
to like put it up anywhere. But yeah, Spider Man
Brand New Day, by the way, we talked about how
we had a feeling this one was gonna maybe do
well at the box office, just became the sixth biggest

(48:55):
movie of all time, bumped Star Wars The Force Awakens
to the number seven spot. So that's that's where we're
at with Spider Man Brand New Day. Those shit Frost God, damn,
I st haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
You see it, man, I know, I know it's I'm
in a weird fear like the guy's child. He knows
who Spider Man is. Yeah, he ain't ready, he ain't
ready for that shit.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
This one's yeah, this one's too much punishers in there,
give the full burn fall modeull.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Oh no, he's I mean my kid's ready for burnfall?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well he's a fan of the podcast. Yeah, yeah,
he loves birth, he.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Loves his podcast, and he's always like, daddy, how come
you don't talk to police officers?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Like John, are you scared? John Berthall is cool and
he's friends with them.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
They're actually they're trying their hardest out there, you know.
All right, those are some things that are trending on
this Monday, August twenty fourth. We are back tomorrow with
a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be
kind to each other, be kind to yourself, get your
back seems where you still can't get your flu shots,
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk

(50:04):
to you out tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
By by The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by
Catherine Law.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by J. M McNabb,
and edited and engineered by Brandon Dicker.

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