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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist in our

(00:25):
third seat, the creator of red dot Comics. You can
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tastefully and appropriate work. Please welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's camp winda a aka the carpet matches the drapes
because a guy both.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's how it's done.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I asked for help for an aka this morning. That
was the best to go.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
That was good. Well, welcome to whoever helped you? Did
I say, who helps me? Online? That was on salad
shut out to housy on salad in the aka Scord
doing the Lord's work, The Lord's work. This is a
podcast about Christ and his good works and the fires.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
If we didn't shift hard praising the Lord.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
I keep trying to do a joke in stand up
about how it's the fires happened because I'm just like
so gay and nobody likes it.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Nobody wants to hear that. Nobody wants to hear how
except that one guy in a cool way, so that
one guy who is on the local news being like,
why is there those fires? Though I think it's because
people are gay anyways, that that guy a true hero.
The Howy Mandel podcast is he has Bill Burro on.

(01:42):
Seems like it's very standard, you know, comedian interviewing comedian podcast,
and then Billy Corgan shows up and suddenly Bill Burr's like, uh,
I knew you were gonna fucking do this. Like, rather
than being like, oh, Billy Corgan, lead singer of the
Passion Pumpkins, that's cool, he's like, oh Jesus Christ, I'm like, oh, okay.

(02:04):
They have history, and do they ever? It's revealed over
the course of the interview that there's a suspicion that
they have the same father that like, Bill Burr's father
was a traveling salesmill and they pumpkins across the Great Nation,

(02:25):
and Bill are so funny and mean about it. He's
just like, do you ever think that maybe, like I had,
I don't talk about this all the time because I
don't want to. But Howie Mandel is a complete He's
just like, what what's wrong? I'm just you know, playing
dumb Billy Corgan seems very uncomfortable. But yeah, it's they

(02:47):
like they're like, yeah, we think he named us both Bill,
so he wouldn't like get us mixed up and wouldn't Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, wait is that like a legit?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's the question that everybody asks right away. I've found
both sid I've found people being like, well, you can
see on Twitter or you can see on Wikipedia that
like Billy Corgan's dad is a different name or something
like that. But it just the way it's played like
it it feels like a weird if it's a bit.

(03:18):
It's like Bill the first Bill Burr bit that I've
ever been like, huh, you.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Know, like like didn't get that it was a bit.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, Well Billy Corgan is one year older than Bill Burr,
so that's his big.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Broa dude, hey, big brother. He just immediately started Billy
Billy Corgan's a big Cubs fan, and he just immediately
starts shitting on the Cubs, which again, Bill Burr is
on a roll. I cannot do any wrong in my
book or are you gonna say, kim.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Oh, they just need to take a twenty three and
me just do it.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
I was like, why didn't how we like. I know
he's like a germaphobe, but just like grab one of
the mugs they drank out of.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Come on, man, exactly, do the detective work man. This
is what you do. You should Okay, you set that
situation up. Yes, it's uncomfortable. If you were a true
showman who had learned the lesson of deal or no
deal and the importance of a big reveal. You have
a model standing with a briefcase nearby. You say, actually,

(04:19):
the last time you were both on, I did snag
your coffee cups and some them to twenty three and meter,
and in that briefcase I have the answer are you
or are you not? Brothers? And then you know that
that's entertainment, baby, that's prestige casting. To quote Anna Josy
in a way that she's gonna be very mad about.
But it's that that would have been something. So my

(04:42):
overall takeaway, I don't know if it's like been factually proven,
if it's just a suspicion that Bill Burr would just
rather not like look into her talk about main My
main takeaway is Howie Mandel is a bigger asshole When
I was giving him credit for for doing that, But
that was so funny.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
And it's also like, who has the balls to piss
off Bill Burr?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Right, there's no taking it back. I know, there's no
what taking it back? If you're recording with Bill Burr,
that's there forever.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, everybody, A lot of people are going to watch this,
and he knew that and that's probably why he did
it to launch the Howie Cast or whatever the fuck
his podcast is called. Anyways, Kim, we do like to
ask our guest, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Uh? Bath pillows? I like taking bubble baths and my
neck hurts and I want a pillow, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
And how are we achieving this? Is it with a
giant sponge?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (05:44):
It's just to fold it up towel that gets really
wet and then it's just annoying to deal with afterwards,
and I just want to relax. So I looked up
just like bath pillows, but they suck.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
So I'm going with.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
A pool toy and I'm just gonna have that one. Yeah,
keep it whimsical, keep it fun.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Just like a rolled up That's what said, keep it
keep it fun, keep it fun. To keep it whimsical,
keep it fun, keep it that's right. Yeah, I was
gonna say, like a pool noodle just rolled up cinnabond style,
you know, it was.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh my gosh, I would be so worried about it
just bursting out.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, I feel like you can just get like a
baby floaty, you know, like a kid's.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Exactly like, yeah, tub things, You're.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Still my president, Jack, thank you, And see I'm the
type of president who can listen to conflicting opinions, but
then I will send censure you later and cut off
fun day for you.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, cold bath great, Kim. I can't do baths.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I can't do because I'm like the tub needs to
be it's always like not clean enough for me, so
that I'm thinking about laying in, you know what i mean.
And then I'm like, you can watch it before, you
can watch it after. But now that's more prep you know,
so that I'm like not relaxed getting into it. I
prefer getting into like a shower that's so hot your

(07:18):
boyfriend thinks something's wrong with you, and then just falling
asleep standing up right like that is my version of
relaxing in.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You had a shower beer.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
A shower what beer?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
A shower beer.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
So if you don't have regular beers, but that sounds amazing.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh my god, extra relaxation right there. You don't do
in a bathtub because you'll drown and die, But if
you drink in a shower, you'll just let it all
go down the dream.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
You sound such like such a wealthy woman right now.
Shower to bees.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's what they don't watch you to have.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
This is my shower champagne, honey, that that we don't serve.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yes, you have a specific shower champagne cup. Yeah. I
I've definitely partaken in shower beers in the past, and
you know, it doesn't need to be beer. You can
have a nice shower bev. I think I've found that
the thing that I enjoy about the shower beverage is
like the contrast between the cold and the heat of

(08:21):
the shower is kind of thing we discussed a while
back a reddit. There's a i think an entire subreddit
about shower oranges.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Oranges, Yeah, just.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
People who eat oranges in the shower.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
And specifically oranges.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, And like at the time, it kind of made
sense to me because you just peel. Let the peel
fall on the ground. But peels are like easy to
like ap peels for Yeah, they like make it smell good.
And then you also get that contrast of like cool
juiciness mixed with hot shower vibes hot shower energy.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
This is what we're coming up with while China is
doing AI.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah, we need more shower food options.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
Soup not working soup?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, Yeah, I think I think it needs to be
cold on hot personally, Like, that's that's what I'm looking for.
Like you don't you would want definitely want a like
cold Italian sub and not like a hot meatball sub
in the.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Spot shoe.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Too wide of an opening, you're gonna end up getting soap.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
And yeah in the shower.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Like hair water is going to be in your gaspot. Yeah,
there's like something it's like hermitically, like the orange is
like sealed off and so you know it's not it's
not like a open open top. You know, there's something
cool about an orange. Yeahybe we should throw this one
to AI to see what.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Try a blue moon and an orange next time I showered?

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Oh wow, yeah orange, Yeah, I'll try.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
It warm and flow well as cold.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Slurpy, a big blue raspberry slurpy.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But see those have the dome top, so you're you're
actually not going to get as much hair water risk rewarding.
I truly think shower slurpy is the answer. Like, that
is something that I do need to try now. It's
the cups are a problem. You would need to get
the hard plastic ones because the paper ones, I feel like,

(10:43):
are always on the verge of rotting out a little bit. Yeah,
if I like, find an old slurpy from earlier that day,
the paper is starting to feel a little soft and
old slur like in a car, I leave it in
the car because I don't want to bring it in
and let my wife and children see that I've like. Yeah,

(11:09):
But anyways, I really think shower slurpee is going to
be a thing. Yes, all right, Andrew. This is the
episode where we tell people what was trending over the weekend.
But first we let them get to know us a
little bit better by telling them something we think is overrated,
something we think is underrated. Why don't I start us
off with something I think is overrated. I just heard that.

(11:33):
I hadn't heard this in a while, but I heard
somebody say it's best thing since sliced bread this morning,
and in the context of our recent discussion on processed food, Yeah,
that one hits different. I'm gonna say because I don't know,
it's it's just the go to, you know, exhibit for

(11:58):
greatest invention. Why did people not have not? I have
so many knives now, not to brag, but like I
got sore, I can. I can slice the fuck out
of bread, and you know, I try to buy loaves
of bread that are whole. Yeah, like whole ass loaves
of bread, like a fucking g And I don't know, like,

(12:19):
so the efficiency not it's not that much more efficient.
My number of knives, I have my knife drawers overwhelming.
In many cases. The only way it's scientifically possible to
have sliced bread that's not like hardened into a series
of like monoliths is.

Speaker 8 (12:35):
With loads of ultra processed I was gonna say that
that is probably the the actual innovation of slice bread
has to be like preservatives.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yes, exactly, they didn't. It's not just somebody thought of
cutting the bread. It's like somebody invented a chemical that
you could put on the bread to make it. Yeah,
It's like being like best invention since pre rolled cigarettes
started taking us to flavor town. All right, I mean

(13:06):
I get.

Speaker 9 (13:06):
If you don't have the preservatives, you get a feastables
just mold hold all the way up and down. That's right,
Dale is the best case scenario, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
So I don't know. I I do love a nice
whole loaf of bread, take it home, put it in
a a big bag, and usually stays potash for like
a few days.

Speaker 10 (13:28):
This is crazy.

Speaker 9 (13:29):
My my overrated is eating healthy because I bought myself
a loaf of wonderbread this last week. Can I just
tell you, as a grown ass man who is mostly
spent his recent year and a half, try to eat well, wonderbread.

Speaker 10 (13:44):
Is so good.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's so fucking good. It's incredible. It's so wild. Yeah,
I was, I was talking you. I tried. I had
a crustable for the first time the other day, and
it's basically like wonderbread turned into a hot pocket.

Speaker 10 (14:01):
Crusta ball is It's like a peanut butter jelly inside
of of like a white bread, a white.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Bread like strudle, you know, like maybe, yeah, just a
giant white wonderbread ravioli and I was like, holy shit,
this is the texture of the bread is so pillowy, so.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
So yeah, I mean I guess it's just like white
people bow or like right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Because it's that it's all the stuff. It's like bleached flour.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
It's a little sweet or a lot sweet in case
of across the balls, and it's just like a like
a thing you can kind of hold your hand that
is like, oh my god. Can I just say I
did probably see this on a cooking YouTube somewhere, but
my pro tip for making a sandwich with wonderbread.

Speaker 10 (14:48):
You can't toast in the toaster.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean you can't.

Speaker 9 (14:50):
You can't do this by toasting the toaster, but use
a skillet to toast only one side of it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Okay, just one side in butter, or you're just like
putting it raw side.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I was.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
I was not like wiping out my cast iron super efficiently,
so there was kind of just the residual seasoning of.

Speaker 10 (15:09):
Whatever the fuck. But I didn't add extra fat.

Speaker 9 (15:12):
But basically having one crispy side of the bread and
one like wonderful hill side so fucking good, my god
crust outside, which so like it's basically like God inside
crusty side goes inside crusty. You use that as the
basis for like your mayonnaise or your you know, mustards

(15:34):
or whatever normal sandwich, and then so outside you get
like super super pillowy. But then when your teeth go in,
you find a crunch in the middle.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
People probably didn't know they were getting one of like
a point counterpoint crossfire style show today. But my overrated
as sliced bread, You're underrated is wonderbread? Yeah yeah, and
we solved it. I think I think you're right and
I'm wrong, But maybe I just feel like we need

(16:05):
a better like Exhibit A for great innovations.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's more your part.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Also all silling to Marcella, what is something you think
is underrated?

Speaker 11 (16:18):
Underrated? Physical media? We are we need to bring that
shit back. You got these streamers as we're going to
just hopefully discuss later. These streamers are going south pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (16:29):
I think it's time. If you guys have like a
favorite DVD, I mean a favorite movie, it's time to
get it on DVD. It's time to buy a little
DVD player. Start supporting your second hand thrift stores, buy
some DVDs, get off of the You can create, first
of all, two b's free, but you can create your
own two B in your household. So I want to
encourage everyone to get behind the physical media. Go to

(16:50):
a local show, Go buy someone's CD, Go buy someone's DVD.
Come on, y'all, what are we doing.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Go buy some streams, Go buy.

Speaker 11 (17:00):
Some physical ship and support local art or or like
the Witch. You know the movie The Witches. I don't
know if it's not it's I haven't been able to
find it on streaming, and I was like, I think
I'm going to try to look for this on DVD.
The old one, the Angelica Houston one.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, where they turned the kids into mic It's creepy kids.
I forget. Exactly is a creepy yes me out, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 11 (17:23):
You're thinking of trauma, your nightmares? Yeah, all we all
are memories of the Witches. Is just a nightmare. I
think that's not how the movie went, but scare the
funk out of me. But I was like, it's hard
to find it on streamer. It's only available sometimes. And
I was like, I want to get I'm I'm been
so I've been trying to without buying it brand new.
But that's I think that might be impossible at this point,
but they're not.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
They're churning them out. Yeah, so film just that film.

Speaker 11 (17:46):
Yeah, physical media, that's what's underrated to me.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
It just remade that movie. I think it was somebody
just remade that movie and it apparently suck.

Speaker 10 (17:59):
Ship.

Speaker 11 (18:00):
It wasn't good. Yeah, it was with Anne Hathaway. It
wasn't it wasn't bad, like it wasn't my nieces. My
nieces enjoyed it, you know, but it's definitely not the
terror that we experienced in the eighties.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
Yeah, but we were so because.

Speaker 11 (18:11):
There was no regulating back then. You know, children's movies
and the and the rating system were so different. I know,
never will.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Never bad original Witches is like this is too much
like that. That was the the response that you wanted from.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
We got to regulate these witches.

Speaker 11 (18:29):
That's how it started in Salem, and that's how it
started in the DVD Blu Ray that's collections.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Marcella. What is something you think is what? Oh my god, yeah,
something you think is over rated?

Speaker 11 (18:44):
Well, I think I think I think what I'm sure
you've talked about this with that people, but the national news.
MM have you ever talked about that as an overrated
national news Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ever heard of it? This podcast are big fans. We
just kind of go to CNN dot com, We go
to the New York Times, We tell you what's on
the front page, and say, how do you do?

Speaker 11 (19:09):
Yeah, it's going to be talk about oils and shell
gift cards and.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
VP is investing in the future.

Speaker 11 (19:15):
I just want I love that people do that. This
podcast is such a great example of supporting like small
news sources, but also like guys again, local news your
your little Samsung or Apple Tea every Actually I don't
know about Apple, but they have a lot of local
news station streaming, and I wish more people were more
interacted with their local news, just similar to physical media,

(19:38):
you know, like get your stop taking your news and
large doses from social media and national news take it
in smaller doses like first thing in the morning, like
when you turn on the news and Mike Kaplan giving
you the weather and he's so charming, and then you
fucking get some of those terrible bad news.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know, I feel like also bad, I'm going to differ.
I'm it's different though, and yeah, it's a different bad
but it's like that here's another here's just a fucking
feed feedbag of crimes that are gonna make you scared
of the people around you.

Speaker 11 (20:12):
Sure that's true, But at what I'm specifically encouraging is
finding the local news station that has a good rapport
with each other and really support local shit going on
and not just local crime and local.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Bad news, local papers and ship Yeah.

Speaker 11 (20:28):
Yeah, shit, that's like that is actually uplifting. So I
agree with you on to a point, because some local
news is like really just like nobody likes each other.
You can tell they all hate working with each other.
It's not fun to watch. There's like one here that
I really enjoy watching in Chicago, and it's like they
really they have like Orange Friday during the football season,
you know, and they like show pictures of people and

(20:48):
their little orange gear and it's really cute and I
like it because it's like it's a cute way to
start the day. This morning was the fucking god awful news,
but whatever. I was like, oh, not starting my day
with this, I'm gonna I do national lose a little
later in the morning. Yeah, Like, local news is like
nice to get the weather without having like why am
I checking my app every morning for the weather? Like,
let me have like a sweet pie, old.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Man, give me the weather pie. You know. Yeah, it
is like that is one of the nice things about
the national news. Before it was like, you know, bought
by fucking sink media. Yeah, one copy, but like there
is still a feeling when you tune into some of
it that like you're tuning into just like a small
work like a small business workplace and they have their

(21:32):
own like weird fun work culture, and like some of
the people who work there who you're seeing are like
the quirky guy and yeah, you know, like they just
have to like these little poles.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
They do like little poles and it's really cute. And
then they all like have banter with the weather guy
on the on the traffic girl and the the person
doing this little segment and they all banter back and forth,
and I'm just like, I like that they're reminding people
that it's okay to have these conversations naturally at work
or with whoever. And they're just certain news like and
I think because it's Chicago, because they are everybody here

(22:05):
is so accustomed to supporting local shit that it really
has taken that particular news station like just made it it,
taken it up a notch and made it more fun
and sweet to watch. And also, like the local news,
they want their community on there, you know, and they
want people to reach out and I like that.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
You know, it's just about what's orange Fridays. That's so
funny as hell? That is you as hell? Yeah, all right,
your mouth. I'm sorry, and I apologize. Let's take a
quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk about some news,

(22:44):
and we're back. And so, Emily, you are a lawyer
who understands how all of these various things that you
know understood when Project twenty twenty five was released, like
what the implications of all these various things mean. And

(23:05):
now the executive orders have been issued, the pens have
been thrown into a cheering crowd like their fucking Lebron's armbands.
But just to like start not to go again, like
you're gonna have to work with me here and just
pretend this is gonna be hard for you. Pretend that

(23:27):
I'm an idiot who doesn't know exactly what executive orders are,
how they work. Just for one hundred miles up, what
what are these executive orders that and like we've been
told there are limits, and like that's why Biden and
you know other Democrats weren't using them. And yet Trump

(23:49):
came and like just dropped, flooded the zone with bullshit,
flooded the zone with executive orders. And now it seems
like there's a lot of action happening as a result
of the executive orders. So just like trying to find
the answer in all that madness.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, so I think first of all, we can start
off with one thing that I think you're not an
idiot if you don't know this. A lot of people
don't know this, that an executive order is not the
same as a law passed by Congress.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
An executive order does have some legal force, but it's
basically a thing that the President said the executive branch
is going to do. And the president only has the
ability to direct certain people in agencies. So anything that's
under the executive branch of our government, that's a lot
of stuff because all those big administrative agencies that you
hear about, or the Department of Justice, the Department of Health,

(24:38):
the Department of the Department of Transportation. He can direct
all of those agencies about how they're going to function,
what policies they're going to use, how they're going to
hire and fire. Like he can do a lot of
that direction through these executive orders. He cannot, though, do
a lot of the stuff that he's trying. Me he's
kind of treating executive orders like a magic wand or
a genie in a bottle, like trying to who erase

(25:00):
the fourteenth Amendment on Martin Luther King Junior day, Like
that's what he's trying to do with some of these orders,
and you can't. There's a reason that order got stopped
in its tracks about fifteen minutes after it left his desk,
because there are limits to what executive orders can do.
That being said, there's also a lot of avenues which
agencies have a ton of power. So how he directs
ICE to perform immigration enforcement, for example, or how he

(25:24):
directs other agencies to address drug prices, or how he
you know, directs environmental policy, all of that can be
impacted by executive orders.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
And so the idea that like Biden could be because
like so that there's looking at the past presidential terms
that have used executive orders. I think in late December
Biden had issued about one hundred and sixty. Trump during
his first full term did two hundred and twenty. FDR
did three thousand, seven hundred and twenty one, which I

(25:57):
guess he was president for a number of years, but
that's still it's still a lot. So it seems like,
I don't know, I had just always heard, yeah, well,
we're not gonna like use executive orders because of it's
set a bad, bad precedent and ultimately, like you know,
could be overturned. But it feels, you know, as as

(26:18):
somebody who's not a fan of these particular executive orders,
like they're I don't know, like when when you're a
sports fan and the other team does the thing you
don't want them to do, that's usually the right thing,
you know, it's like, oh, that that makes me uncomfortable.
Therefore that's probably the the they're thing. They're doing the

(26:38):
thing that like we're everybody like wishes they weren't doing,
which the way that the government currently runs seems like
is the correct way for them to do all the
authoritarianism that they have in mind. So I guess I'm
just curious to hear, like, what what do you think
of this? Strategy like throwing a bunch of these at

(26:59):
the wall and some of them being outside the purview
of like a normal executive order and some of them
being just like making a statement essentially. Do you think
that that is going to work? Do you think that
do you wish that more progressive presidential if you can

(27:19):
imagine a more progressive presidential administration than this one, that
more progressive presidential administrations like we should be wanting them
to do.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
So we're at this really difficult crossroads, right, which is that,
first of all, the idea that Donald Trump would not
do something because Biden refrained from doing it is hilarious
to me, like, oh, we wouldn't want to set a
bad president because clearly if we don't do the bad thing,
Donald Trump will also not do the bad thing.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
He's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
He's gonna if you put a button in front of me,
he's gonna push it. He's gonna push the button until
the button breaks.

Speaker 10 (27:52):
But also not just Donald Trump, like Mitch McConnell, Nut Gingrich, Yes,
every Republican leader since I've been alive and I'm pretty old, right,
it is just the weird that it's it's to me,
it's so weirdly willful. It's like, oh, we wouldn't want this,
wouldn't want to break this norm against the team that

(28:12):
only breaks norms.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, that has absolutely no compunction about breaking norms and
in fact seems to do it for fun.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, they've also realized something, which is that whether something
works has nothing to do with whether it is supposed
to work or legally structured to work. It has everything
to do with whether you can get people to change
their behavior based on what you're doing. Like if an
executive order is issued that's not supposed to work at all,
but people take action based on it, nobody stops them,
Like then it worked. So I think there's a certain

(28:40):
amount of like just try and stuff that we see
now and we're going to see continually for the next
several years. I think Democrats could absolutely benefit for more
just try and stuff. I mean, obviously I don't condone
trying to erase a constitutional amendment by FIAT. It's very
silly and no one should do that. But at the

(29:02):
same time, I think there is a certain amount of
creativity and a certain amount of precedent breaking activity that
is appropriate. I think we were not designed to live
in a you know this, This government was not designed
to be fully static and frozen in the past. Don't
tell Clarence Thomas, he would absolutely tell you it's frozen
in the past. But in general, like evolution and trying

(29:23):
new stuff is good and probably Democrats could do more
of it.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean FDR like there is some stuff
going on in his during the time that he was president,
I think, right, I have that, right, he yeah, he had,
there is some stuff and he you know, he was
willing to just up there working things out, trying things out.
You know, it's like, is this something?

Speaker 11 (29:47):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Well?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
What about there? And twenty one?

Speaker 9 (29:50):
Not to be a completely left wing lunatic, but I
will just point out that it does a little bit
at this point seem like the Democrats did govern the
way they wanted to. And it's not a matter of
not trying stuff, it's that they didn't want to try
that stuff, right, the big d Democrats are not interested
in those good things. Yeah, it seems to me as

(30:14):
an idiot, me a complete idiot, it would seem that.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, I mean these ideas were raised, they did not
happen over the past four years. At times when a
lot of unprecedented ship was happening. That bad stuff, not
unprecedentedly fun good stuff. Let's talk about just the the
you know, the executive actions that are jumping out to you,

(30:40):
Emily as somebody who's kind of following this. I actually
don't know if all of these are executive orders, but
these are the ones that have kind of popped, have really.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
Popped for me.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't know why I'm getting Hollywood executive here, but
so we have the mass raids on undocumented people in
the US and their families, which that that is an
executive order, right.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, directing ICE, directing ICE enforcement.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Scrapping cancer research is that.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That had to do a lot with freezing the NIH
and freezing funding, hiring, firing, the purchasing of supplies for research,
which resulted in a lot of labs having to let
people go stop their research they don't have personnel or supplies,
Like you can't do major medical research without money.

Speaker 10 (31:29):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
And what's really terrible is that by interrupting a lot
of the work of these labs, we're setting that research back.
It's not like a lot of this work can just
be sort of like picked right back up where you
left off. Six months from now, and it's not just cancer,
it's Alzheimer's research. It's like a huge quantity of research
that makes the United States a valuable place to be

(31:50):
because of its medical advancement capacity. Yeah, we just threw
that in the trash and lit it on fire.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
What is the not that I think there's great reasoning
behind any of this shit, but I am confused how
that even ties into any agenda or like any set
of you know, politics, like any political posturing is like
we actually think we should.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
See we hang out with any mega people lately, because
I mean, what I hear a lot of is that
they believe that all of these researchers are like it
all comes back to Fauci and it's all corrupt and
it's training the swamp, and we're like, I don't think
anybody's given a lot of critical thought to what if

(32:37):
what if the researchers are not secretly corrupt oligarchs, but
what if they actually are people who are poised to
save lives, perhaps lives within your family sometime in the
next few years, if we let them. I think there's
just this huge perception of corruption in the medical community,
and I'm not sure where that comes from. Certainly I
could talk about it in context related to medicine and

(32:59):
health insurance, but yeah, when it comes to like hating
on cancer researchers, I don't get it. But it's a
thing that the MAGA folks seem to do.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, honestly, And that's the kind of toughest
thing is like all this data is going to be
so entangled with our shitty healthcare system that it's not
even even going to be clear that as a direct
outcome of this, like life expectancy or health outcomes are
worse in the United States because they're already so much
worse than the rest of the like you know, equivalently

(33:27):
rich world, that like we're never going to be able
to prove prove until, like I said this yesterday, until
Polio's back, but like even then, with.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Any of this shit, I feel like we're in a
really bad position to make those cases because of how the.

Speaker 10 (33:45):
Media general healthcare system, how.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Bad a general healthcare is. But just all of like
them very disappointed in the New York Times.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I mean, it's it's hard to prove a negative, but
if the New York Times wanted to and I'm with
you that they don't want to at all, Right, I mean,
you could look at over the next few years, how
many new pharmaceuticals are patented, how many new treatments medical devices, like.
You could look at patents. You could look at drugs
hitting the market. You could look at requests for FDA approval,
you could look at all you could look at new
techniques being published in medical journals. You could look at

(34:16):
the rate at which US researchers are publishing generally. I mean,
there's all of these metrics that we expect to see
slow down when you defund medical research.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Right, Yeah, the other ones I have pulling the US
out of the World Health Organization recognizing only two genders,
turning DEI into like not not just removing funding for DEI,
but like, you know, saying that people need to report
anyone they see doing a DEI. I guess is the idea.

(34:47):
By the way, I did hear somebody pointed out that
roy Cone came from McCarthyism, So like that like roy
Cone was worked and like learned under McCarthy. So it
does make sense that there's this like direct line from
McCarthyism too.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Trump, Well, it's not just in the federal government. There
are a lot of people are talking about that EO,
Like it's just amongst federal employees, right, like, if the
guy at the cubicle nextsu is seeming a little too diverse,
you better report. But it's also giving these agencies a
directive to select up to nine entities in the private

(35:24):
sector that they would like to investigate for compliance. So
it's also poising the federal government to engage in. And
we're already seeing the impact in like cowardly big companies
scrubbing any mention of diversity and ending any diversity programs,
and less cowardly companies refusing to do so, which is
kind of cool to see, but it's McCarthyism writ large

(35:47):
in the DEI context.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I think.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Also we're going to see that in the immigration context,
with like pressure to turn people over and compliance pressures
of all kinds. So yeah, they're absolutely trying to create
a society in which people are afraid of their neighbors
and afraid to be snitched on by their colleagues.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
For being too diverse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a person's way
too into diversity.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
It's like, actually, like I'm I am curious this speed
for which this will have repercussions. I mean, the immigration
thing is like if that actually happened, would actually tank
the agricultural industry. So like, you know, if the Trump
people were mad at the price of eggs, then like

(36:30):
what the fuck is I'm just like curious, like if
anything will ever.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm in California. There's We're on our local news. We're
seeing like fruit sitting in the fields. It's orange season,
like nothing, like. Yeah, it's understandable. It's especially understandable because
when you're not inside a building, you don't have the
same Fourth Amendment protections. It's actually a huge issue. We see,
for example, unhoused people don't have the same rights against
search and seizure because they don't have a home which
someone would need a warrant to enter, so they don't

(36:57):
get this particular constitutional protection. If you're in a field, again,
ice can come up and go after anybody they want.
There's no structure that they would need a judge to
give them permission to enter. So agricultural jobs are particularly vulnerable,
and we as a country are particularly vulnerable to like
not having food we can afford as a result.

Speaker 10 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean it's just the unintended
or yeah, well the food like disaster would be an
unintended even for them consequence of like you know, enforcing
immigration in the way they want to enforce it. I'm
just curious, like, what the fuck will actually happen?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
How could it be unintended? I mean that's a question
I have, is like, it's the most foreseeable possible, the.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Very first thing everybody is like, hey, so I know
you only understand profitability, just a quick FYI hear on that.

Speaker 10 (37:50):
I mean, I guess might the speculation would be it
just creates an even more scared or like oppressed class
of undocumented worker.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, I mean the idea of that they talk about
a lot that like, yeah, you know, people criticize how
expensive this is going to be, but it's gonna lead
to like a lot of like self deportation, and you
know that what that usually means is that people just
don't can't work because when you like show up to work,
then like you're you know, putting yourself in a position

(38:25):
to be taken in. But so that's yeah, it just
it feels like that is going to be a first
like it's not going to be a down the road thing.
It's like a thing that is going like based on
the things that we're already seeing of you know, these
like raids. The doctor Phil is live streaming. We're going

(38:47):
to see the results immediately, because nobody's gonna want to
fucking put themselves in a position to be arrested and like,
you know, treated cruelly. Yeah, so I don't know, like
I others reversing climate change, bringing back the death penalty,
not reversing climate change, reversing climate change actions and declaring

(39:08):
and the emergency is actually how little gas we're pulling
out of the ground. These are all things that I
had identified as like, man, the executive orders seem to
work in this case in the worst way possible. Like
what is there Are there any of these that you're
like that that one is actually going to be challenged

(39:31):
and easy to overturn before it does too much damage?
Or is this all just kind of fore alarm fire territory?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
So I'm really interested to see what happens because a
lot of people like to act like the law is
a real thing and you know, the law will save us.
The law doesn't support this, and the law, Yeah, but
the law is just a bunch of humans in rooms
like some of the humans get to wear a special
dress and sit up higher. But which human these cases

(40:00):
are broad in front of will matter a great deal
because Trump worked very hard during his last term to
put a lot of judges in place who are heavily
aligned with the ideology we see in Project twenty twenty five.
In the past, we saw a judiciary which took their
responsibility as neutral arbiters way more seriously, and they would
have been like, really embarrassed to do something nakedly partisan.

(40:22):
That cultural safeguard is gone, and I don't think we
realized the degree to which it was a cultural norm,
a cultural safeguard holding the judiciary in a neutral position.
It's toast. So some of these I will point out,
you know, the death penalty one is terrible for innumerable reasons. One,
Generally Americans don't support the death penalty anymore, So this
isn't really beating any voters that are demanding this.

Speaker 11 (40:45):
Two, we get it.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Wrong a lot.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's her reversible. Three this EO contains all of these
eos contain ways for the government to reach more deeply
into the lives and actions of private actors and the state.
So here this EO is directing the federal government to
try to exert more control over state and local prosecutors
and ags. Here's why that's a big deal in the
federal system. Joe Biden, to his credit, commuted the sentences

(41:11):
of everyone who's on federal death row. So Donald Trump
doesn't have anybody he can kill right now, as much
as he would like to.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Oh no, and.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Good on President Biden for doing that. Eighty seven percent, roughly,
that's excess, probably an old stad, but over eighty five
percent of people in prison are there on state and
local cases, so you can see that, like, the federal
government only comprises a very small minority of people who
are impacted by criminal justice decisions generally. So what does
this executive order do. It pushes the federal government to

(41:39):
start going after the folks who actually control use of
the death penalty, who are state ags and state and
local prosecutors. And that bothers me for many reasons, one
of which is it's completely contrary to the omnipresent states
rights argument that we hear all the time that like,

(42:01):
local people should decide what's right in their locality. Oh,
unless in your locality you don't want the government to
kill people, in which case you don't get to decide
what's right for your locality. Your judgment is subsumed by
a huge and empowered federal government. I thought we did
like big government. No, no, no, we like big government
when it's making the government kill people. So's that's where
we are on this.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yes, not great, And your point about it being unpopular,
like that, that was the thing. Just alec Herricktsanas had
a thread on Twitter this weekend just about this New
York Times article from last week titled support for Trump's
policies exceeds support for Trump. And this feels like it's

(42:42):
the way I'm seeing a lot of people in the
New York Times and like in that world respond where
they're like people might not like the man but approve,
you know, they might think his methods are too harsh,
but he's getting things done, and it's like in line
with their And I think what they're referring to is
like a very specifically worded question that suggests that they

(43:06):
want people who are undocumented deport it. But there's also
like three questions they're just worded slightly differently that suggests
that there's actually a super majority of people who don't
who don't want that, but they I don't know, there
just seems to be that an urge to like be

(43:27):
like what he's doing is like not that out of
line with like what people want, and I don't think
it's true, And like, why again, they're only focusing on
like two of these executive orders, two of these policies.
They're like really having to work hard with the polling
and the wording of the polling to like make it
seem like people are in support of these policies. And

(43:49):
then they're also ignoring like the huge swaths of these
executive orders that are wildly unpopular for their cruelty.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
And so this is so I'm so glad you brought
this up, because so when we look at Project twenty
twenty five, there's a couple of like big themes that emerge.
One is that they're very terrified of boyfriends, and they
think there's nothing more terrible than a mom, a single mom,
having a boyfriend. There's a whole fun passage I beg
you to read with just just like control f boyfriend.

Speaker 10 (44:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
In Project twenty twenty five, it's a ride. But beyond
their fear of boyfriends, they really don't like information. They
don't like people having any information, and they would rather
the government not gather any information because if you gather
any information, people might get a hold of it, because
governments do have to have a certain level of transparency.
This goes totally to what you're talking about. The way

(44:36):
you can create false informational worlds is by limiting the
amount of information people actually have. Like here you have
a poll which doesn't reveal to the reader that, oh,
in like the next three questions, it turns out people
don't actually like this policy. They just only liked it
when it was worded a very specific way. And that's
really the thing about polling, right, is that like the
answer you get from people depends enormously on how you

(44:58):
ask them a given question. But in the in the EOS,
we're seeing a ton of these clauses. In the EOS
are getting rid of forms of tracking information in government
so that people will no longer have access to, for example,
what the demographic makeup of our government even is, or
of our armed forces, or of you know what. The

(45:19):
impact of various policies and programs is. Health tracking in particular,
like how much are we at danger from bird flu
versus something else. They would really prefer not to collect
any data, because when you don't collect data, you can
control people's opinion on policy a lot more through things
like the framing of the question, because people don't have
a real informational basis for making decisions. In addition to that,

(45:40):
there's a whole separate EEO on restricting the government's ability
to go after misinformation and disinformation because to stop to
stop misinformation and disinformation would impinge on the free speech
rights of the people who would like to distribute misinformation,
Like lest the government stop people from lying to you.
It's all this theme of like the government no longer

(46:02):
wants you to have good information underdown.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, I mean that seemed like the whole Mark Zuckerberg
like statement was all about, like the way in which
he used like that's like people's opinions and like free speech,
but he was only talking about like people who support
Donald Trump's free speech very specific definition of that. It's
it's very strange, but it's like it's not just the
tech eos. It feels like the these you know, journalistic

(46:29):
institutions are just like currently really not up to the
task of like dealing with what's happening right now there.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I can't tell if they're into it or scared. I
can't tell which it is.

Speaker 10 (46:40):
I think they're into it. I think they've had decades
to not be into it, and they have never showed
themselves to not be into it. Yeah, I mean, I
will say again, I know I keep beating this drum,
but we are. It feels ever nearer to an actual
like facts don't care about your feelings, reckoning on just
like the nature of reality. And I'm just like, I

(47:05):
know I keep saying it, but it's like, you know,
the things they believe are largely not true. So like,
what is it going to be? Just like Made in
the USA starts to not become the gold standard? Is
it going to be like you know, fucking like Beijing
University is where you go instead of Harvard, Like it

(47:27):
will be something like the rest of the world doesn't
have to play by these rules and they eventually won't.
Like what is it going to be? I'm just like,
I guess, I'm hoped. I hope I'll be alive when
the fucking other shoe drops on this whole shit.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
So I don't know, Sorry, Yeah, I feel like it
might be sooner than I was expecting prior to a
couple of weeks ago. But yeah, I don't know. It's
it's it's Is there anything Emily that is making you
hope full besides teachers, which I think is a great example,

(48:04):
like teachers being willing to fight for their kids, for
their students, any other places you're seeing hope.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
One thing I would say is that so much of
this is local, right, Like I've been watching online as
like finding videos of a local neighborhood watch like scaring
off ice agents from their neighborhood and schools not letting
them in, and you know, ordinary people protecting each other.
I also think that this has the potential for a
huge informational awakening for Americans in a certain sense. I mean,

(48:35):
I'm thinking, actually, this is so dumb. But do you
remember when like TikTok was gone for five minutes and
everybody got on red note Yeah, and suddenly Americans were like,
wait a minute, you get fresh groceries for how much
in China? Amazed like the fantastic Chinese grocery halls Americans
have managed to become even without a Trump branded isolationism,

(48:55):
Americans have for decades been deprived of opportunities to really
get to know the international community, to travel, to learn
about the world, to expand their horizons. And I think
that in that moment you describe Andrew of like watching
China surpass us in renewable energy and get to a
clean and low cost energy solution while we're still like

(49:18):
shoveling coal into furnaces. I think that's going to be,
I hope, a really healthy awakening for Americans. I'm terrified
on the healthcare front of the number of lives it
could cost us to learn this particular lesson, But I
guess I'm placing a lot of my hope in great
organizations that are willing to put up a fight, in
ordinary people who are not naturally compliant and steel themselves

(49:41):
to say no, even agrins. It's really hard to say
no to somebody who says, look, I have this piece
of paper that let's be coming to your home. It's
really hard to say, nah, judge, didn't sign that paper.
I'm not opening the door. It's hard to do. But
I have faith in the stubbornness of ordinary Americans, and
I hope, I hope that if we are able to
emerge from this without falling prey to the informational lockdown.

(50:03):
If we're able to retain our ability to get information,
we're going to come out of this a much better society.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
That is the question, right. That's where like it feels
like things must be like the way I was talking about,
like it being a sporting thing where you're like, oh,
this is the thing that I don't want my opponent
to do, and they're doing it and that is probably
smart on their part. Like, that's my question thinking through
for them is like that's going to be the next

(50:30):
frontier is like, okay, so how do we stop the information?
Like and it sounds like they're working on that with
regards to the studies, but just in terms of the
day to day social media, I'm sure that you know,
beyond the TikTok band, I'm sure that's coming too, right.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Wouldn't this be great? I mean zccer bless Zuckerberg's little
heart is my college classmate.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Wow, cool guy, cool guy.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Actually Facebook is old, like old Facebook's old. Like I
also think there's a real chance that like we might
disconnect from our social media addictions in a really different
way during these next few years.

Speaker 11 (51:11):
That could be really.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean, once you realize that something you've been using
as a resource to learn about people around you and
like what's happening in your community is actually just full
of junk. Yeah yeah, I go on Twitter so much
less now because it's just like so full of like
click baity, angerly just coorse. Yeah yeah, exactly. And if
this disconnects us from that and we go back to

(51:34):
other forms of informational engagement and information sharing, or we
create new forms, that'd be great too.

Speaker 9 (51:39):
Yeah yeah, I did want to also say a thing
about the local, like to sort of tag what you
were sayingly, like even you know, just like doing a
small amount of mutual aid carding shit around during the
fires and I mean the fires are still ongoing, but
it and just thinking about California. I know I've said
this on the show closer to when the election was,

(52:00):
but like, you know, liberal ass California couldn't even outlass slavery.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
So like, there's still plenty of work that you can
do in your community that will materially move things forward
and make things better that, however feudal like, and however
much damage is done, and we're watching the repercussions of
federal government. You can still fix things, repair stuff, help
people in a way that is material in your community,

(52:29):
and you should fucking do it because to do it,
even though you're helping people, you're doing it for yourself
because you're going to need all this stuff too.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
There's a really good lever for that that nobody thinks about,
and I want to put it out there for people
to consider. All of these culture war things. The way
they get enforced is through prosecution. That's why Donald Trump
wants to exert so much control over local prosecutors is
because a lot of this enactment will have to take
place in the form of criminal prosecution. Public defenders man

(52:58):
public defenders are so under considered as a sort of
last bulwark against totalitarianism. They are the people who are
fighting against you know, the types of detainers that can
lead to deportation. They are the people that are often
first to find out when an individual is in jeopardy
from their government. They are the people best equipped to

(53:21):
legally intervene. For many people, a public defender is the
only lawyer they're going to have in their life. They're
going to have one lawyer, and it's probably the free lawyer.
Provided them paid by the government to fight the government,
and they there's five nine hundred public defender agencies in
this country. Most of them are like not particularly funded
or attended to, but ordinary people can go to their

(53:41):
county Board of Supervisors meeting say hey, how are you
resourcing my public defender if my family needs a lawyer,
Like who is that lawyer? And what support are they
getting and how well are they being paid, and like
what experts do they have access to and what labs
are you going to let them use in a serious case.
I think that it's a moment now for people to
recognize that public defenders are their counsel and they should

(54:01):
demand better.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, and that's you work on that, like that executive
you're the executive director of Partners for Justice, which sounds
like that's kind of a focus for you guys, right.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Most of what we do is we help public defenders
do more stuff beyond the legal matter, so like recognizing
that a court case can completely upend a person's life,
cost them their housing, their job, like access to their kids,
access to medicine. We basically create really strong interdisciplinary services
inside public defense. A little bit of mutual aid, a
little bit of services, you know, a lot of community

(54:35):
networking so that people can walk away from a case
with their life as intact as possible. It's very very
pro safety stuff. A lot of the stuff we address
our underlying drivers of crime. It's also very decarsoral. We've
eliminated over five thousand years of incarceration in just a
few years because it turns out what somebody's doing really
well in the community, a judge is less likely to
send them to prison. But I'm talking about more than that,

(54:56):
like more than just what we do, like the daily litigation.
Public Defenders is going to protect a lot of people
who are being prosecuted for putting the wrong book on
the library shelf, or seeking an abortion or being trans
I mean the lawyer they're going to have is probably
a public defender. So even beyond my work, it's a
great place for people to dedicate their focus.

Speaker 10 (55:18):
Yeah. Yeah, And if you're just a citizen talking to
your government, a great place to find that money is
in the insane police budget. Just thrown it out there.
Maybe some of those funds should be taken from the police.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I don't know, but you know, there's a great study helicopter.
I don't know a tank.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
There's a great study on what really well, there's a
lot of great studies and what really creates safety. And actually,
if anybody cares. On the Partners for Justice website, we
have a little tab that says evidence, and I gathered
a ton of these studies there if anybody wants data
on safety. But there's a wonderful overview we did on
how environmental design creates safety. And it turns out that
if you want to lower the homicide rate, you are

(55:59):
better on off planting trees than hiring more cops.

Speaker 11 (56:03):
I mean some.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Street lighting trees. And that's not only on homicides. Like
buildings with more greenery, like more beautifully greened buildings are
not only less likely to be burglarized, they also have
less domestic violence inside the building. So all these things
we could spend money on that might work better, and
more more subway cops playing candy crush.

Speaker 10 (56:27):
Yeah, I know this is not the way the directionality
window or arrow goes, but also less domestic violence if
there's fewer cops.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Right, let's just throw it out. There could be I
don't I actually don't know if that's the direction that
the cause.

Speaker 10 (56:40):
Out guys are bad guys.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And
we're back. And the Pentagon has decided that Black History
Months isn't a thing anymore.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
There they that's the joke. It's also I feel like
some of you need to hear me say that. Good.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
But yeah, their intelligence agencies reportedly paused observances of Pride Month,
Black History Months, Martin Luther King Junior's Birthday, Holocaust Days
of Remembrance, Juneteenth, and other annual cultural events due to
Pete Hagseth's war on wokeness.

Speaker 11 (57:29):
That's terrible.

Speaker 12 (57:30):
Valentine's Day they still have off. They still for Valentine's
Day to make.

Speaker 11 (57:35):
More babies get their rape on?

Speaker 10 (57:38):
Right?

Speaker 11 (57:39):
Do they think we love their holidays?

Speaker 10 (57:41):
Like?

Speaker 11 (57:42):
Do they think we love Thanksgiving? And Fourth of July?
Like do they think that we are getting together at
Thanksgiving dinner? And like what are they doing? I don't
it's so insane. How like the do you guys not
want a paid day off?

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Like?

Speaker 11 (57:55):
What the fuck are you fucking talking about?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, they're they are only comfortable when celebrating emotionally distant
straight white diisgender men. That's that's what we do in
this country and sometimes they'll allow you know, Santa Claus
is about as emotionally available as they'll allow.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
Well, that's because that's celebrating capitalism, so right, they can
understand that.

Speaker 10 (58:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
It's also I'm very like DEI is being conflated with
diversity and values that like they're taking this like corporatization
of the idea of diversity and trying to lump like
the legacy of Martin Luther King Junior like under that.
In a way that's like very, very frustrating, and I

(58:38):
feel like the mainstream media is just going along with
that and being like, yeah, the war the right is
winning the war on DBI, like and everything goes under that,
including people like non white people and not straight people
like that.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Pride Month is like they're they're lumping the under like DEI,
which was like the corporate world's attempt to be like
and we're listening, you know.

Speaker 12 (59:08):
Right, It truly doesn't change their lives at all at all,
at all. It's like Pride Month, it's so fucking loud. Yeah,
it's just so loud all the time. I can't hear myself.

Speaker 11 (59:19):
Think racist, homophobic thoughts when aphobia so has to cancel
his big plans for prior to drowned out by me
thinking about all these men's dicks.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Right, have you guys heard of Netflix? Do you remember? Yeah?
So Netflix is that company that used to like mail
people DVDs. Now so they're now a streamer. And they
just held their twenty twenty five programming preview, which.

Speaker 11 (59:50):
Aka Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
That's that. That is weird that they called it that, right, Like.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
Yeah, they could have called it anything. They could have
called it nothing.

Speaker 11 (01:00:00):
Yeah, they could have just kept their prices where they
should be a stop giving certain people lots of lots
of money, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
The Hollywood Reporter said that it felt like a defense
of like that they were like trying to defend themselves
in a weird way and just being like we're number
one because they just raise prices and everybody's like kind
of annoyed.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
Oh oh, I'm canceling my shit. I was like eighteen
dollars for fucking nothing because that now they don't have
exclusive shit you see like HBO shit on there, everything's
on there. We do not need to be on there, guys,
take a break, give them, give them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Give them nothing. Sorry, I think you're gonna want to
listen to this story.

Speaker 11 (01:00:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Now, these sorts of events are like in general for me,
the thing about streaming is just like there's this like
fire hose of expendable content generally, and then they're like, oh,
if you thought that was a lot of stuff you
won't ultimately remember, check out this, and then just like
you know, blast you with like even more. There is

(01:01:03):
stuff in here that I thought seems interesting. First of all,
I did love John Mulaney's Everybody's in La, and they're
bringing that back. Seems expensive, seems expensive, which should be
that it does seem expensive, But what's fun about the show?

Speaker 11 (01:01:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
I want something that seems expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, that should be the name. Turn that on.

Speaker 11 (01:01:25):
I go, look at that stage, look at that set,
Look at these guys. That is money.

Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
Is that an oak desk? That is some hardwood?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Okay, God damn. They announce Stayed, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon
movie called Rip.

Speaker 11 (01:01:42):
I'm waiting for that, Oh for that them to come
back together together. When j Lo broke up, I knew
Matt and Andy we're gonna get back together. Yeah, they
had to. They always do what every time a woman
does one of them dirty. They go, you know what
it's about us? I need you, I need you, broke.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
The need each other, I need them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Ben Affleck called it a mix, this movie a mix
of Heat meets Narc meets Training Day, and I was like,
one of those is not, like those are two classic movies.
And then Nark, a movie that I didn't even realize
was a movie necessarily. I thought it wasn't there like
a video game in the eighties called Narc.

Speaker 11 (01:02:25):
I don't know, but I just know that a movie
is going to be bad when the main actor is
using the log line as a way to convince you
to watch it, and it's like, honey, that's not how
you convince me. That's for the pitch. That's for the deck.

Speaker 7 (01:02:38):
Out to that log line.

Speaker 12 (01:02:39):
Actually, I just read it over and over again and
I do push ups.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
By the way, The reason is because it's direct that
that is a movie that was directed by the same
guy who directed this, so he just like trying to
throw it in like it.

Speaker 11 (01:02:55):
Was a bunch of fucking losers. Oh my god, get
on each other dicks. Yeah, just try to challenge each
other to be better. For the love of fucking God.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, I will say, all right, So here are the
ones that jumped out to me that I'm like, I
feel like people are going to be talking about.

Speaker 11 (01:03:11):
Tell us why you're going to keep subscribing to eighteen
dollars a month Netflix, Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
So I'm here to tell you that's what it sounds like.
I'm just saying, I feel like we these will be
coming up in this year on the daily es. I
guess like, I feel like they'll crossover. Sponsored by BP
SA and this is sponsored by VP.

Speaker 11 (01:03:31):
Yes as squid Game sponsored by PETE season three okay, sorry, as.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
The climate change adventure increasingly gets more exciting in the
coming year thanks to our friends at BP. These are
some of the things that you can entertain yourself with.
Inside So there's a new Knives out, which I don't
know how you guys feel about the first Knives out.

Speaker 11 (01:03:55):
First one great, second one semi great. This one can't
possibly be great.

Speaker 12 (01:04:01):
This one's guns out the Annie guns out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Ever bring a knife to a gun party. The only
detail that I have on this one because they like
had a picture of so Dane Craig have.

Speaker 11 (01:04:15):
Have long he was jerking off to you were jerking on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
They had one picture they had one picture, but it
was delicious.

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
You got to hear. Sometimes you hear what he's really saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
When you hear, you just got to read between the lines.

Speaker 11 (01:04:27):
Yeah, it's not wife. There's just no way she's happy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
H No, No, you suld be correct.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
Neither is mine. I want to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
The unhappy wives clothes. Yes, that's what this podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
That's what it is. God, she's pissed.

Speaker 11 (01:04:48):
I thought that's what Tom's the girls his wife.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Okay, so the mousie guy from Challengers is playing someone
named d Judd do Plentissy, do plan Tissy?

Speaker 11 (01:05:02):
Who was playing this?

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
You know the mouse he guy from Challengers. He's like
hot mouse. He got the dark haired MOUSEI guy. Anyways,
it's just do plan Tissy. I was ready to be
out on this, and then I was like, oh, Daniel
Craig saying calling someone mister duplantissy is I'm back in.

(01:05:24):
Although he does have shaggy hair. Dang o Craig in
this one.

Speaker 11 (01:05:27):
Which are you going to read that line? I'm waiting
for you to read that line.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I wonder if he will be do planticitous? Is that
the line that you were I wonder if he will
be duplenticitous perfect. Thank you Marcella for encouraging me across
the finish line of my own joke. Thank you, Thank
you to BP as well. Full Stop Happy Gilmore Too

(01:05:53):
is coming? What Yeah, I had no idea. It's from
Kyle from Alcoholics Sister podcast. This is important. That's gonna
be interesting. I do love a good Sandler and Happy
Gilmore one a classic. Then all right, so this is
the one, the two that I think we're really going
to hear about. Uh, there's a retrospective like Eddie Murphy

(01:06:17):
documentary that I feel like could be like a you know,
last dance moment for like Eddie Murray, where like people
like go back and realize like, oh shit, like he
was fucking awesome. You know.

Speaker 12 (01:06:30):
But if Michael Jordan hated basketball, right, but he could
still be doing it if he wanted to. He just
doesn't like it. He hates stand up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Well a thing or two about why.

Speaker 11 (01:06:46):
I mean, I do think that what he said to
or maybe the conversation to him and Jerry Jerry Seinfeld
had on to whatever the two cars and cups getting
you about. He was like, once you're I don't know
one of them said it and they but they both agreed,
and I appreciate it where they're both like, you know,
once you're rich, you're not funny anymore. And I love

(01:07:07):
that because I'm like, I wish Elon Musk could hear that,
because this motherfucker is striving to be funny and it's like, dude,
rich people cannot have a sense of humor. It's just
it doesn't exist in their brains.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
He's gonna try to be funny until the world is over,
until it chills us all.

Speaker 11 (01:07:23):
Yeah, sponsored by BP.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
And then there's a docu series about the titans that, uh,
those people trying to go down to the Titanic and imploding.

Speaker 11 (01:07:31):
Which fucking losers? More losers, give me some this loser
after loser.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah, Eddie Murphy and the guy who went down.

Speaker 11 (01:07:40):
I'm gonna say it not Eddie Murphy. I'm not gonna
call Eddie Murphy a loser.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
But anyways, remember little Heights that I think are coming
coming for all our asses, coming for the Zeitgeist. Oh
and Guiermo del Toro is making a Frankenstein movie.

Speaker 12 (01:07:54):
Enough no more monsters. Lo can my little freaks? That's
Germo del Toro. What can all these little freaks. I
little fucking weird weird mummy. I think I think he
keeps him, hiding him, and it's tummy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
He pulls him out of his belly button.

Speaker 11 (01:08:08):
Wait, he dreams one up, he pulls it out his
belly button.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
This one all right, that's gonna do it for this
week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show. If
you like the show, Uh means the world to Miles.
He he needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having
a great weekend and I will talk to him Monday.

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