Weekly Zeitgeist 378 (Best of 4/21/25-4/25/25)

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 385 (4/21/25-4/25/25)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles.

(00:26):
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seats. Yeah,
very funny. Comedian and activist Yeah, the host of the
great award winning podcast Good Muslim, Bad Muslim. Yeah, Senior
fellow on comedy at the Pop Culture Collaborative. She's written
for The New York Times, wrote and performed a piece
on Fresh Air. He it's the hilarious, the talented.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Zara nor By.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
What oh what hit that? Note?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, okay, pipes, what is up?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Let us go?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
I haven't seen the news in a while.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
When I miss it's been good. It's been mostly good stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Oh you're gonna love this man. It's gonna hit you
like a fucking ship Title Wave. It's gonna blow your
fucking hair back.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Get ready.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
That never recedes.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I I was hanging out with Katy Perry.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah, in outer space.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That sucks.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Say she didn't let you post any of the pictures
that you were sending me in our text like threat
with each other.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah, and I couldn't look her in the eye.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Oh, I mean I get that she's she's famous. So
that's just kind of a you can't look You can't
look Jalo in the eye either if you're a service provider.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
But you can look her in the Yes, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
A proctologists watched out of Site for the first time
in a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh, good grief. Good like that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Really like her performance. But for some reason, when I
had watched it before, I hadn't fully taken into account
everything that was going on in the backyard. And I
was Jay's with my friend and we were just like, O,
what what is happening right there? It was like stopped
it and pushing it back like it was just like

(02:11):
she like walking to the door, like to go answer
the door, Like.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
What the because wait didn't she I mean she she was.
She was the one that like broke the door open
for people to be like, yeah, big butts are cool.
The boom Era is over.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Never over.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
The boo bears, the boom beer is timeless. But I'm
saying we finally, yes, we finally acknowledged the posteriors the Glutamus,
Mini miss and Maximus.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yes, and shout out to the Maximus.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
I also, isn't the one where George Clooney is doing
all the Zippo lighter tricks?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Yeah, little snapping on the I so side note that
I got a promotional out of sight Zippo lighter at
the time, and I was I perfected the flick open
with the snap ignition and this was I was fit fifteen.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I wasn't smoking.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
I wasn't even smoking then, and I was like stunting
on people at school and They're like, you cannot be
bringing a lighter to school, and I'm like, but did
you see me flip it open like this and then
snap the ship? And that's why I smoking.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Bit open till it hurts a little because it's burning.
No position, Rosie Joel. We do like to get to
know our guests a little bit better by asking them
we do something from their search history that is revealing
about who they are. I'd like to ask you both
for that, and then I understand that you've decided to

(03:34):
trade off the overrated underrated.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yes, wait, Rosie, can you go first on search history?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (03:40):
I can, because today I was looking up the very
exciting laws around internet safety when you work for a
large corporation. So I was searching exciting things such as
I'm like one hundred years old, guys, I'm looking in
my history.

Speaker 9 (04:00):
I'm like, where's the search?

Speaker 8 (04:01):
Guys like I don't remember the acronym, but okay, I'll
tell you this is a this is a good one.
Currently in my search history, I do have my training,
which I was trying to learn about different kinds of
important health and safety. I also have a reddit for
what do people give out free at K pop concerts?

(04:22):
Because I was making a present for my friend who
loves kpop? And what's the other most interesting history?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Wait, what do you mean give out free at a case?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (04:32):
Okay, let me educate you, because I too am I
am like not a young hip person anymore if I
ever was, and basically at K pop concerts and I'm
sorry to the Taylor Swift fans it was their first.
It is very common for the young girls and the
young people who go to these shows. They make fan

(04:52):
photo cards of the K pop idols. They switch kind
of all kinds of merchandise. People will take classes cups,
people will take those light sticks and when you go
on Reddit and you look at freebies on concerts because
I am just a dad who looks up everything on Reddit.
They're just these unbelievable hales that these girls get when

(05:12):
they go because there's you know, twenty thousand people there
and they're all switching around.

Speaker 9 (05:17):
Little bracelets with their bias on it or with the
name of the band.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So like the Taylor Swift, it's kind of like that, but.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
Like more extrapolated to multiple different kinds of merchandise. And
a big part of like K pop popularity is these
things called photo cards where it's just like a little
photo of the idol and they.

Speaker 9 (05:36):
Trade them kind of like trading cards. So yeah, I
was looking up that kind of stuff to.

Speaker 8 (05:40):
Arrange a cute surprise for a friend, and I was
really learning a lot, as I always do when I
go on Reddit and ask a question that one hundred
and forty year old men have asked before me.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
My daughter's going to a K pop show. Have you
tried just.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Going to Google and asking their ai? Absolutely not.

Speaker 8 (05:58):
Oh okay, dude, I'm I'm just as a as a
person who spends a lot of time on the Internet
and who writes a lot of articles and.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Does a lot of journalism.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
The moment that that came up, I was like, I
have to pretend it doesn't exist, yeah, because otherwise, at
one point I will okay because I'm busy, and I
will get got and suddenly I will be writing something
completely factually inaccurate.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
I'm like, I gotta stay to the sources I know,
the sites I know.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
And mostly that has just led to me just going
to the thing like comic books because you can't.

Speaker 9 (06:32):
You got to ignore it.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Google completely broken for completely, like years now, and now
they just have a thing that's like what what if
we just like took from the top five results that
have been wrong for years?

Speaker 7 (06:44):
Yeah, this is my first old man yells at cloud
moment where my kids don't.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
Look at the AI.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's terrible.

Speaker 7 (06:54):
You're so frequently wrong, and it's really terrifying, Uh if
you're a person who really enjoys people reading, because I
feel like it's just reducing literacy, like I'm Branson by
even more, and you're just like, it's it's just Google
is just it used to be so accurate.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
You guys, remember when Google was good? Always go over there.
What we were looking for? Sows was good.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
Oh, Michael, Well, I mean I remember using as jeeves guys,
I used as I've ever been.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
That was kind of the beginning of the AI creep though,
because with ask jeeves, I remember it was so totally
set up to be like rather than a search term
like yours.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, exactly in a conversational way.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
But I mean the more I look at like AI
and I hear like like like men talk.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
About it's like dude, like you can actually do therapy.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
On there and stuff like, I'm like, I'm now convinced
AI was just created so men didn't have to appear
like they didn't know anything.

Speaker 9 (07:49):
And no, I think that you I think it was.

Speaker 8 (07:51):
That is one of the biggest problems with it is
it is exactly that because I didn't realize in my
you know, naivete as somebody who's just too old to
have been suckered into it. Multiple friends that I have
who work with people who are in their twenties are
just constantly catching them using it like it has become
the go to so quickly to just put something through chat,

(08:12):
gutp or ask them a question. And then people come
on the internet as they always have done and act
like they are an expert source. But the funny thing
is now they are getting it from like a Before
you might have gone to a fandom site, like fans
sourced media and archival spaces are really really important and
have for a long time been like at the heart

(08:33):
of a lot of genre fandoms. But you would go
there and you would read someone else's thing. You would
maybe do some research, or maybe you just quote it
from Wikipedia. But now you're literally just quoting something wrong.
Like nine times out of ten that AI answer is
going to be absolutely incorrect. I was looking up something
about the technological safety.

Speaker 9 (08:54):
I'm really sure I'm making this corporation feel great.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I obviously have.

Speaker 9 (08:58):
All the lingo down. I don't worry. I will never
put a USB stick where it doesn't belong, guys.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I know that much.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But the thing that you learn in those trainings is
if you find a USB stick in the.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Parking lot, don't don't load it up.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Don't don't just take pick it up and plug it
directly into your computer as I had been doing for you.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
I don't date it because whose computer even still has
a USB correctly exactly?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
No one may buy a dongle. Yeah, but what this USB.
I really need it.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
But like even during that while I was trying to
understand a bit more about like these different legislations have
come in in the last twenty you know, since twenty
fifteen or whatever, every time I would be googling to
try and understand more about it, because I'm like, if
I'm going to do the training, I may as well
actually learn something. So I googled it and then they
are legit giving me like the incorrect answer and information

(09:53):
in the top, while the correct thing is in the
you know the answer below, and that I think as well, Joel,
you must you must know this feeling Me and Joel
both came up like doing you know, journalism, entertainment, journalism
and stuff, and if you wrote like a big deep
dive interview or a law piece five years ago, the

(10:13):
best kind of feeling of achievement was if yours was
the first answer on Google, you would be like, Okay,
I'm the most cited. I'm ever like this is me now,
I'm like that better not fucking ever question, AI, I
definitely got something wrong.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Like right, yeah, I mean it just generally like it's
a is a perfect replacement for men in that they
just created a machine that will give an answer that
isn't correct, very confidently made by men for men, and
you don't place men, you.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Don't, and you don't have to struggle in public square
of men because you can quietly just you know, like
your phone and even for fucking therapy. Yeah, I mean
I know, and like I can see that there are
potentially non malicious applications of it. But like when I
see the amount of people like reflexively like just think

(11:08):
that that's the answer, that's what that's what spooks me up.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, Joel, is there something from your search history that's
really It's.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
So funny you bring up Ka Pop because I was
hanging up Black Pink tickets. I like, I like Jenny,
She's cool. Uh, everybody loves Lata Lisa, she's pretty. See
girl's got her a little uh up a song that
I'm it's like, maybe see the Girls song is everywhere.
It's literally taken over my feet. And I was like, well,

(11:37):
maybe I'll go, but tickets are more expensive, and then
I paid for Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I was like, oh shit, I can't.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
I think I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I can't.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
So I'm just gonna wait and there's still a ton
of tickets lefto, so I'm like, maybe closure to the concert.

Speaker 8 (11:49):
We'll say, what about this, Joel. This is not an advertisement,
as I am not sponsored, but I do enjoy the
game Time app where you can buy a ticket like
two hours before a show and it's like twenty bucks.
That was what happened with Beyonce last time. There was
all these people buying floor show tickets for.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
Like sixty bucks. Wow tour like.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
As long as you're like a couple of hours away.
So I think you got the right idea.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Wait, I haven't explored the game.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
Time appy yet, but let me download it because I'm
also looking at floor seats for the WNBA games when
those started back up. You know I've been wanting to go,
haven't you, Yes, because it was you you were telling
you about how much when the WNBA games were and
I was like, I got to go check these things out.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
The WNBA you can buy because the Sparks ended up
as the lowest team, if not maybe one of I
think it was the lowest ranked. But and I went
to the last game and it was unbelievable. The girl
I just wanted to cry. She was like, I'm so sorry,
We'll do better, like the captain of the team, and
I was like, no, you are amazing, Like it's okay.
None of us watching this are professional athletes, but that's

(12:51):
like it's okay, Like you didn't do the cheapest they had.
When I emailed to find out about the season tickets,
they had season tickets that started at like four hundred bucks.

Speaker 9 (13:00):
Not terrible seats all the time.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
I just to the big place for the queer girlies
to like hang out, meet one another, see amazingly tall
Amazon women on each other, like I'm just really.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
Here for And I will add another selling point, which
is when I went, two of the girls had a
fist fight. It was pretty Griner and one of the
girls from the Spots and they got in a fist
fight and they literally pretty got the game and they
both got ejected, just straight up ejected.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
It was it was pretty sick. I'm not going to sports.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Fight is a top tier. I've never been to a
sporting event where there's been a fist fight. But if
there's one happening and I'm like, I'm on my feet immediately,
I like, let's go, let's see.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I just love I don't you know fighting I r
L but sports in real.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Life, that's it.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Those are billionaires punching each other.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
We should be.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
Somebody writing somewhere it's like, just let them fight, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I feel like there's a lot of there's a lot
of blood lust right now in the sports fandom.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Like there there are a.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Couple of NBA series that we have a really good
chance of in Round one of the NBA Playoffs of
going spilling over into street fights and everyone.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
Yeah, it's like the same reason people watch hockey, they
just want to see somebody beat someone else up right.
That's the the same reason people go to the to
see any kind of large, slightly dangerous event is like, oh,
what if it went wrong?

Speaker 9 (14:24):
Like there's a human curiosity there.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Yeah, and you're right twenty twenty five springing out the Bloodluss.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
What if the horses and the Kentucky Derby started fighting
each other?

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Okay, I would want to kind you want to see
the animals fight?

Speaker 9 (14:38):
Up your hoops?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
What is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Felipe uh I.

Speaker 10 (14:44):
Was thinking a lot about this one. I'm going to
make both of my underrated and my overrated things about sports.
I think because I have to say it here in
this country, soccer. Soccer is incredibly underrated, underrated. Yeah, it's
my favorite sport. It's incredible. It's insane, the level of
athleticism that you have to have to play it, and

(15:05):
like people run, like those players run like six miles
twelve miles every three days. And I'm like, it's not
about the goals. Also, like there's really cool goals. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
So soccer is a big thing that I think is
underrated here.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Who's your Who's your team? I mean probably obviously the
Columbia national team.

Speaker 10 (15:25):
Yeah, Columbia national team, which, as they say in the book,
like Columbia is a great nation whose people will never
let you down unless they play for the men's national team,
which because they will always let you down.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Shout out David Asina. You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (15:38):
Arsenal Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah and it Spina actually
played for my favorite club, which is Arsenal in London.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
Hell yeah, I'm right there, bro, I know.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
That's why I said, let me vibe check real quick.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, you guys are riding high right now, right real Madrid?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, fucking beauty. That was Oh my god, I love
throwing it in the haters. There's so many real Madrid
fans were like, just wait, bro, have you heard have
you heard of We're gonna We're gonna win back it now? Y'all?
Y'all are trash anyway? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Have you guys thought about like adding dunks to the game.
I just feel like maybe, like if you could like dunk,
it would be cool.

Speaker 11 (16:24):
There.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Shots from outside the box are like dunking. Bro, Okay,
those you like a goal?

Speaker 10 (16:34):
If a goal comes from outside the box, it should
count for two.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, there's so many like, let's change this sport that
sounds so beautiful that you love so much. Change it
for the American audience. Maybe maybe rock and jocket a
little bit. Maybe there's ten pointers from random spots.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
If you watch the South American League, they take fucking
rips from outside the box. Like if it would be
those scores would be wacky for the amount of like
outside of the box I've seen in South American League.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
Be cool?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, what's something you think is overrated?

Speaker 10 (17:05):
He here's my here's the thing that will probably get
me excommunicated from the United States college sports. Don't get
it has never been my thing. Or got it, Like
I didn't go to college here, but I'm like, these
are just like twenty two year olds were late for
cam you know, right right? Why is everyone so like
riled up about this? You know what, do you all

(17:27):
have jobs? You're no longer in college?

Speaker 6 (17:29):
This is this is my theory about it, Felipe, because
the reason I really love football, let's call it football,
that's what that's what it's called, is the sort of
tribalism around the supporter culture.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like everybody has a club.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Everybody is devoted to their their respective club or national team.
They will they will dress up, they will get together
on match days to experience it all. And I think
college football is the closest thing in America that we
have that's localized enough that even if you live in Nebra,
where you have no professional sports team, you have a
college team that allows you to be like, we are Nebraska,

(18:07):
this is our team. We fuck with them, these are enemies.
So I think that's the one parallel I see. But
the difference being is they don't have the fun chance
and so yeah.

Speaker 10 (18:16):
Like cancer doing soccer amazing, But but I get that actually,
like this is the first time someone's like presented that
like that way of looking at it, like I understand
that a little bit more. It's it really is just
like one of those things where like it's so weird
to me. Sometimes I'll see like a grown man with
like a like a ku like jacket, and I'm like you, sir,

(18:40):
you you have daughters.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
And then I presume I didn't cry at either of
their birds, but did cry the last time that team.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh man, when Rafel friends was there.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Man, Yeah, and it is getting sorry, Jacques vaugh you know,
the list goes on.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Damn. Why were they so French?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Joel?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
And yeah, I mean we were not familiar with your game.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's it's now basically becoming more of more like corporations
where you are hiring people out, like the way that
the system is set up. Like at first it was
you they were on. The athletes were only paid with
their education, which was not good because this amorphous entity,
the NCAA is making all the money and just like

(19:34):
not sharing any of it with the athletes. But they
they then switched it and now it's just this weird
thing where like people change teams constantly, Like it almost
feels like when somebody is like, oh, you want to
do it your way, fine, and they like make it
bad on purpose, you know, like they've just like not
put any rules in to make it so that any

(19:54):
team keeps players that like are are there. It's everybody
has to switch constantly. But anyways, it is I get
what you're saying, Like from an outside perspective, I feel
like it would be like, what the fuck is anybody
talking about?

Speaker 10 (20:11):
Totally Yeah, it's totally like I didn't grow up with this.
It's like when you go to your like like a
friend's house and everyone's like, oh, for dinner, we're gonna
have my favorite like tune a pasta or whatever, and
it's like you're like everyone I likesta, but it's like
everyone in the home is like this is amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
And you don't forget dance to the castle dance Dad,
just like embarrassed for everyone.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I actually don't feel that good.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Could I?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I might have to call my parents pick me up.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, chicken tastes like wood.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Hey, myles, have you ever gone over a friend's house?
Food just ain't no good?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
No good.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
From Bottle of ko Peck take That verse is mind
blowing to me?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
What fun?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
What an unexplored direction that rap could have taken. Where
if they had gone with that verse as the one
that worked from Rappers Delight?

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Could you imagine if rappers rather than starting off I
said a hip hop, a hip and they just started with.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Have you ever got over a fritastic? And the food
just ain't no good? The macaroni sug like. Rap is
just like poor food commentary and stant like failed stand
up comedy is like the direction that all rap goes.

Speaker 10 (21:42):
Have you ever noticed that airplane food is not as
good as.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
To deal with?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
How small these peanut packages? All right, felipe, wonderful getting
to know you. We're gonna take a quick break. We're
gonna come back and we're going to talk about some news.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
And we're back, and we're back. We're coming back in
mid mid laughter. We have fun when you guys aren't around.
I hate to tell I hate to tell you guys this.
We actually sometimes have more fun when you guys aren't
around when we're in at breaks.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Unfortunately, that sounds like a thing parents would say.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
To there, Ye.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Say this, daddy, have way more fun.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
You know what's funny that my kids are terrified of that.
No they're like, well, what do you guys do when
we're not? They have fomo like And also, my youngest
has so much like angst about the two years before
he was born.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
But what did he do?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Like, what did you guys do with him?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (22:54):
No, So he thinks about the before times of him white,
which is wild because so for me, like my existential
fear is all about end of end of life.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
But and somebody once met like put into perspective for
me by being like, well, are you worried about the
time before you were alive? I'm like no, Well then
why would you be worried about the time after you're alive?
And I was like, shut up, okay, no, I was like,
that's a that's a really good point. My son has
has fear of before he was alive.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Interestingly, I just tell my kid, I was fucking what
was I doing before you were?

Speaker 5 (23:32):
I was up every time.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I was putting in the work to make you mama
was busting it open.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Okay, don't worry about me already, worry about you.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Worry about you.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Uh, let's talk about Pete Haggs after real quick. Yeah, sorry,
this is a will they won't they a bit of
where Monday morning it was Pete Hagg said he gone, or.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
It was at least the reporting was the search has begun,
has begun to replace him from morning, yeah he gone?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
What now it is he might not be gone?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, Caroline, I really searching.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, it really seems like they just like, you know,
skim the top.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Just kind of well they they skimmed the top of
Fox News to find yeah, exactly, and now they will
just be skimming the like sort of closing hours of
a TGI Fridays near the bar to find a replacement
I think for the new Secretary of Defense.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
So we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
But Caroline Levitt, the White House spokesperson, was just like, no,
Pete is fine, he's safe. This is all fake news,
and everyone in the Pentagon is against him, which might
be true because everything we're reading now in this last
week is like we have Republican Congressman Don Bacon coming
out and he's like, this guy's an amateur, like he
shouldn't be there, essentially calling for his resignation. More people
inside the Pentagon are telling the press that everyone hates

(24:53):
this fucking guy because he's a greasy piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
And her excuse was like, he's fine, it's just everyone
in the Pentagon hates him, the Pentagon being the thing
that he's supposed to be. Yes, they're like, they're like,
doesn't that mean he's bad at his job?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
This is what they do. It's never that he's there.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's just everybody in the locker room fucking hates him. Okay,
we're not firing him.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
He's a good coach.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's just all of the basketball players on his team
hate him. But the coach isn't the one that goes
out there on the field to get the result. It's
the soul. It's the people underneath. It's the players.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
That's why that's important.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
They've all just said that they hate him and refuse
to play for him.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Oh so then what do we do?

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Fire off his fault? Yeah, I mean that's not yeah,
exactly what is. And it's clear though too. I think
as you know, there's been all these exits. He's fired
aids for being leakers. But you can only purge so
many people at the Pentagon before it stops functioning. And

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that's something that at least people around Trump are aware of.
It's like, you can't just fire fucking everyone or else,
we don't have the big nasty killing machine that is
the United States Military that we can threaten people with.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
If we don't have big.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Nasty killing machine, we don't have much to threaten people
with anymore. So we gotta really be clear that the
big nasty killing machine operates at you know, somewhat optimal levels.
So now we're at the point where Pete haig Seth,
as we saw on Easter Sunday, fighting for his life.
It continued Tuesday morning where Brian kill Me did him
a solid his former Fox and Friends Morning show for

(26:31):
you know, Homie had him on for a segment. Kicks
off this whole segment about like everyone's against me with
really a very tragic Freudian slip, or maybe not tragic,
just very He's probably just saying, what's to come here
to set.

Speaker 11 (26:47):
The record, Strate himself, the former Secretary of the current
Secretary of State, Pete heg Seth, former host right here
on Fox and Friends.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Pete great to say, if it's secretary, see you, I
like you then didn't even get his title right, former
Secretary of U, Secretary of State.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
Like that the record, Strate himself, former Secretary of the
current Secretary of State.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
No, that's Marco Rubio fan and also he said former
the former current.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean he doesn't wash his hands after he pisses.
What I mean, you said it, you said that years ago, Pete.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's off the dumbest story that somebody can be introduced
to us on on this podcast then leads to them
having a major role in history.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
To being the in charge of the killing machine is
mister pans Pete? Yeah, not great, not great. So yes,
he basically is there now to really perform for camera
to beg Trump because Trump watches Fox News that Pete,
he saith it is like this is just this this,
this is just all a bunch of leaking. Now you
tell me if this next sort of exchange is a

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good lie for Pete, he said. Some people are saying
he's flatling and he's doing that thing again with like
a lot of big facial gestures like he's Jim from
the office looking down at the camera lens.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
He's gone barrel down. I mean, this one it makes
this one is designed for that.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
But this one he's got he's given us facial he
is eating in this performance in reality.

Speaker 11 (28:23):
Secretary, I guess I can conclude this. We know some
bizarre situation with Michael Wallt's happened with the first time
the whole thing with the signal app came out.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
You believe this came out.

Speaker 11 (28:33):
They said it was called team huddle because so one
of the people work for you, one of the three
who no longer are there, leaked this out as a way.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
To get back at you.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Okay, I just want to point out that I like
that he leads him to what this next time.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
This?

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, that's that's that's what happened.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Then you're not some like drunk fuck up who's way
out of his league. Here is Secretary of Defense. It's
that someone is telling on you, right, that's the problem.
You're getting told on tattletales.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's just tattle tales. Yeah, that person who you had
to fire as a bitch.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Is that what the problem is. And let's let pete
he saith yes, and this to the maybe save his career.
We'll see.

Speaker 12 (29:14):
That's right, Brian, when you dismiss people who you believe
are leaking classified information. And again, the investigation is ongoing
and that will take time, and if when.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
The evidence produced, it will go to DJ. Why would it.

Speaker 12 (29:25):
Surprise anybody, Brian if those very same people keep leaking
to the very same reporters whatever information they think they
can to try to sabotage problems of the present character.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
So once a leaker, always.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
A leaker, often a leaker, and so we look for
leakers because we take it very seriously serious and we
will do the investigation. And if those people are exonerated, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
So you know what, I'm.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Once a leak, always a leaker, a leakin a leaker. Wow.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And his whole point is like, yeah, did the thing,
but they told on me.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, okay, that.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Is a level of lying I did when I was like.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Eight, Sure, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
We've all improved since then.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Come on, you realize that it's intellectually does you no
good to be like you so like you're caught and
you're like it's because this person told him. He's like, no, no, no,
you have to actually attack the like you're the event
that you're responsible for.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
How do you account for that?

Speaker 6 (30:29):
And if it's always this is the same thing that
Trump does all the time. It's never explaining your actions
or like justifying, it's about complaining that you got caught.
It's like, oh, talk about let me see your DMS.
You're talking to other women?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
How come you got my phone?

Speaker 6 (30:43):
It's like no, no, no, no, no, why are you talking
to other women in your DM?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
No? How did you get my phone?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Viola?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I trust you?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And now how am I supposed to
trust you now? Right?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
So we're watching that clip just to see his eyes.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, his eyes when he's like so, it's like, yeah,
it is, truly, it really went full. I think he's
talking about corn carn Cob TV pretty soon. Yeah, it
really felt like the guy from corn Cob TV.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
They told me that he did, told me that I
didn't do.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Sh so close to him, saying that, like you're here
that these are the receipts, sir.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
He should have been shaving his eyelashes that whole time.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, his eyelashes are a little too long and luxurious.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
They want him out.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
He's a glamour queen. I do just want to it. Also,
there there are rumblings that Elon Musk on his way out. Also,
he's claiming he's not but people. The Washington Post is
reporting that he has grown weary of attacks from the
left and that his hand might be forced because of

(31:56):
Tesla's plummeting stock price, which I would love for him
to leave. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna say that.
My man a song.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
About this, Yeah, yeah, it goes Eline Musk.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
When will you leave? Go to space forever down to
Hell or in.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
A volcano down to Hell, or maybe go to Mars
and do that scene from Total Recall where their helmets
break and they're like.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Ah, maybe King Kom crushes you anything anything literally anything
literally anything, He's just leave.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
This is I mean, it does Your point JACKI about
the stock price makes sense because this story's coming out
the day or like this headline came out the day
before the Tesla earnings call. Yeah, so as of right now,
we don't know because that's the next big performance from
Elon Musk that a lot of people are looking for.
It's like, what are you gonna say, man, The stock's
down like forty percent and it's all because of you

(32:56):
and your Nazi stuff.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Like when he leaves these we're not going to magically
forget that he did the Nazi salute. That's what That's
where I do think the I do think the whole
point that the media has been ignoring the Nazi salute
to Okay, go ahead, I have to I have.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
To dropped a white man to say, why are we
all even talking? He took everybody's social security?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Right he has? And also just all the information.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah day two.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, I mean, but what why are any of us?
What should have happened is we eliminated everybody's social security,
we reissued them, re certified them, and.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Got that clown out of town.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah. I don't.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I will not get over it, and we just keep
tacking on. I can't.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
It's going to I mean at this point, like all
everything that had to be done, I guess in terms
of the project twenty twenty five of it all if
Elon has done a good job from their perspective with
Doge helling it man.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, So I mean just check in on Jack though.
Are you okay that I interrupted you like that?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I call it's gonna take a lot of work.
It's gonna take a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Can trust you any more?

Speaker 11 (34:16):
That?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
How am I supposed to trust you?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Your eyelashes are.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
After you went through my phone soft and squishy?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, I am very squished. Look at those eyelash I
knew you were a soft boy.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I do think the thing that's probably going to keep
hurting the Tesla stock price is the Nazi salute. I
think that one's gonna have. I think that that one's
going to die hard in the culture, the old cultural memory,
when you're trying to when you're part of selling a
product that relies on people thinking your brand is cool.
I think it's kind of a bummer for people to

(34:51):
see you out on Maine doing a massive, emphatic Nasi
Nazi salute.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah, especially the cack off the administration that day saying
all eyes on you, motherfucker, and you're like, okay, here's
my chance.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Listen. My tzar predictions are like really slaying right now.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, okay, I've said that's that really filled my ego
in a way that I wasn't for.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
This is what I do. I give nicknames.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
You're really good.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Wow, God you. And there's one other public figure who
gives a lot of nicknames. I can't remember who is.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
No one cares.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Donald Trump was always biting my fucking style, dude.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Nazis are the act one villain everyone kills and is
fine with it. There is no one else you can
just like kill in TV and film that everyone just
like gets over humans ze Kyle, Yeah, you give.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Them a hat, you you.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Whatever, they do a salute, you see something that even
looks like Nazish to kill them, and everyone moves on.
This country is being set up for a war, I'm saying,
because the whole rest of the world of the Last
World War was for Nazis.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll seem to be the bad guy.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Yes, I mean we've been.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, we've been the bad guy.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
But now it's like, but now it's conforming to like
the media informed version of good and evil.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Are like, well, they're the Nazis now.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
I think that's also like the hard part with it
in America too, because especially in America, like every like
for the last sixties years of media, it's been like.

Speaker 13 (36:51):
Not kill the fucking Nazis.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
And that's why you have some people who are like, yeah, man,
it's kind of different. Other people are still like I
don't know. I mean, all the video games and movies
I saw are kind of like tarnish that brand.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
But hey, we shall see, we shall see, we.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Shall I don't have to literally, I worked at Blockbuster,
so many movies.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Seen it all, see them all, see them all.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
They die, they die, and no one cares.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
No one cares. We all just we rally around kill
the fucking Nazis.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I mean, like, it's just interesting to me how we
can be over here being like, oh, this sucks and
I can't wait for this to change, and I'll just
keep my head down and you know, hope it gets
better at some point and somebody gets in there. But like, meanwhile,
the whole world is watching because we have like the
world's largest nuclear arsenal, and they're just not gonna let us.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Keep it if.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
We're run by Nazis, you know what I mean that
they have a stock in that too. If we don't, like,
if we're not like, hey, that's a problem. The rest
of the world isn't cool with it.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Yeah, we're definitely in that process of the rest of
the world like, oh man, what the h They've got
a guy who's lost his mind as their president and
right now we're just at tariffs and you know, and
and just and I mean not even just that, and
disappearing people and trafficking them to El Salvador into gulags

(38:20):
and ship Yeah, the the evidence is mounting for sure,
but I think.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Canada take out the cavalry.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Oh okay, you made your nice Canadian friend mad.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah yeah, and we united them for a moment right
now they're like, yeah, America's gotta go.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
It does feel like, I don't know, it's been a
while since it felt like they faced consequences. I think
because of how incompetent the main like National Democratic Party
is like it it just it feels like the rules
of politics no longer apply to them, and so they're
just doing so they won that election where it seemed

(39:02):
like they might have just left the rules of normal
politics behind and rather than like being like, okay, maybe
we test the border, the boundaries of this new power
immediately went for went sighialing on the like main stage
like did you see the MTG like tweet on the
morning the Pope died, Like normally you wouldn't want to

(39:25):
alienate all Catholics in America, she tweeted. She tweeted in
response to the Pope dying. Today there were major shifts
in global leaderships. Evil is being defeated by the hand
of God, like straight up yes, yeah, yeah, all over again,

(39:48):
just as easily not said that, but.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
That's look, I can't wait for there to be the
Black Pope.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
Yeah, you're about to have a fucking some kind of
a cardiac event, baby.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Meanwhile, they're having like the Apprentice reality TV of like
firing cabinet members.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
You know what would be the ultimate reality TV show though, m.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Hm the Bible? Oh, Conclave, Conclave, Yeah, fucked that one up.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Conclave.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Conk.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Have you seen the movie Conclave where they it's it
was nominated for an Academy Award this past year. You're
gonna like it. It's a it is a blast. It's a
movie that's like super watchable and fun. That's about like
the most boring seeming topic. But it's like about the choosing,
like how they choose a pope, and it's they like

(40:47):
all get the close the fortress around the building and
nobody's allowed to come in or leave as until they've
decided who the next pope is. And the only way
that like information comes out is through like smoke signals.
It's very strange, but anyways, it's a it's a rollicking

(41:08):
good time at the movies. I highly recommend it. But
if they could get it if they could get cameras
in there, just go full reality TV. Oh my god, yeah, yeah,
get the producers of the Amazing Race.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
But it's like it's like, yeah, it's the new making
the band.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
But a few auditioning they're like, I really liked him,
but his dancing was not great and his Latin is terrible.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Big Brother Vatican super producer Victor suggested.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I like it. I think the real world Vatican.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
How did I miss it? Oh yeah, I was just
pumping breast milk for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
But yeah, yeah, let's uh, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
And we're back. We're back.

Speaker 14 (42:02):
What was your favorite ad Jack that just played?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Oh man, the one where Jeff Bezos came on himself
and just talked to us about progressive politics and like
how we need to forget about forget about them. But
and let I think he said, just let me handle it,
you guys.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
Well, the actual thing when he goes the progressive politics
forget about.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
It, Jeff Bezos drunk. No anyways, Yeah, so this is
one of those familiar positions of having to shoot down
dumb conspiracies about something that itself sucks. And is not
worth defending. But there were so there was a ton

(42:45):
of conspiracy theories last week that Kate So, Katie Perry
and Gail King and Jeff Bezos' girlfriend and a bunch.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Of Sanchiz former former local news in Los Angeles, Yes,
Fox List what they went to space came back and
people were like, I don't believe it, because.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I think they were just like most people hadn't been
paying attention when the billionaires were going to space and
just like kind of dipping their toe in the space
and being like, technically, we've been to space. In your face, everybody.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Right, I am an astronaut.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Any questions an astronaut, and you will address me as such.

Speaker 14 (43:27):
The big astronaut story before this was people someone lived
in space for not that couple, yes, like nine months
or something.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, so that in fact, yeah, people were people were
comparing pictures of Katy Perry on her like little ten
minute space space in quotes flight with pictures of the
astronaut who had been there for six months, and they
were like, that looks like space hair. The woman who
had been there, whose hair was just like flowing in

(43:56):
all directions, whereas Katy Perry's hair was like still kind
of and didn't look like it had even been hit
by much wind, to be honest, And people were like,
that's she didn't actually go to space, and like that's
true in the technical set.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
Like it's true that she went to space in the
technical sense, right that she right, she crossed that threshold
sixty two miles yeah, in the sky that now you
are in space.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
But I think it's the micro gravity of it all
that people were like, would your fucking MICROGRAVI the hair's
does move?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, it's it's all and there's so one of the
things they were pointing to was the hair. Another thing
they were pointing to was that like when space capsules
come back to Earth from being actually like in outside
of the atmosphere in space, they like get burnt and
like you can see like the burn marks on them,
and this one was nice and clean, and people were like,

(44:47):
that's well, this just looks like they just like took
it and placed it there. And of course that's because
it didn't have to come It didn't it didn't enter
orbit and then have to come back through the atmosphere
and like turn into a ball of fire. It just
like hit the technical limit of space right and then
came back. It was like dipping its toe in a

(45:08):
pool and then being like, I'm an Olympic swimmer.

Speaker 14 (45:11):
You know, and if you were faking it, you would
muddy it a little, you would. This is like a
rookie move to have a pristine capsule come back if
you're gonna fake it right right.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
There's also the thing about like Jeff Bezos opened the
door inward.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I was like, I don't know what the fuck that's
supposed to mean.

Speaker 14 (45:29):
Wait, it's so funny the video. Have you seen it.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I'n't seen that. I haven't seen that clip. I saw
that he goes up.

Speaker 14 (45:35):
They want this big moment where Jeff is like opening
the capsule, but someone inside opens it before he gets there.
He just landed, and they go to open it and
they're like the press persons like close it, close it
because they want this big like camera mode Jeff opening it,
but they had already opened this.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
And I think that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
People, I mean, right, like the people who have actually
you know, used that as the main point of their critique.
I think that's where it should because there's too many
people who like, who.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Gives a shit?

Speaker 6 (46:00):
At these broads when out of they're not fucking at
like whatever. To that part, it's like it's the it's
the the going along with the Jeff Bezos vanity space
thing while like we're well, meanwhile on Earth, everything is
falling apart and we have terrible inequalities, Like come read
the fucking room here for a second, Like that's I think.
The more the critiques that I've read that, I'm like, yeah,

(46:21):
that's that's a bad look.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, apparently it takes a ton of jet fuel to
like get this thing to the border of space. Like
to the point that people were saying that this used,
this was as damaging to the environment as the entirety
of Taylor Swift's Eras tour.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Is that an actual measurement they did?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I saw that somewhere, so I can tell that.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I can tell you that I saw it on the internet.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I did see that on the Why.

Speaker 14 (46:48):
Don't you guys support women reaching new heights? That's what
I'm hearing. Why can't we let them?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
That's what's so frustrating about is just like the it's
like they make us have to like side with like, well,
what you're gonna be one of these right wing trolls
that says that this is like artificial, It's.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Like, well, no, I don't think it's artificial. It's just
it's just superficial. It's just dumb, and it's just it's
it's meaningless in the sense that like this is just
helps bring more attention to Bezos's space program and Katie Perry's.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Tour, which is so weird.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
And she's like flashing the set list like you're you're
spending your time in space, like and my tour, no
one will go to. Here's a set list for you
to see. Those are other parts. I'm just like such
an eye roll. Meanwhile, like the two other people that
were actual like scientists.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I'm glad that there aren't.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
They aren't being being mentioned in the same breath because
like those should people.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Actual scientists, right, Dale came of it all. I don't
know in the Laura Laura Sanchez of it all? Who
who knows?

Speaker 14 (47:55):
But it is it Sometimes people just use anything as
a chance to express their hate for a specific person.
Some of this feels very just like, oh, a lot
of people just don't like Katie Perry. Yeah, this is
yeah new fuel because they all deserve equal hate. If
it's like the project at large.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, all of the things that people are pointing out
about this flight are true of like the many of
the flights that like billionaires took to space, but because
these are women, everybody is pissed off and like the
returning up one of the ones they're like, look at
this picture. There's like a dummy's hand in the capsule

(48:33):
and it was like a capsule from like a test
flight in twenty seventeen. They just like switched it in
for like just to I don't know, it's like to
make the case that yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
It's such a bigger l to like come after this thing.
And then with the stupidest angle like.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Did you do this picture from twenty seventeen? What?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Not real? Like why why would they fake it? Yea.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
In the Daily Mail, there was like this whole thing
about like Katy Perry regretting Blue Origin flight and amidst
continued criticism, it said after after insiders told Daily Mail
after the flight sparked backlash that Perry has taken the
criticism hard and was stunned by the public, branding her
quote tone deaf and quote embarrassing. This with the insider

(49:17):
said Katie doesn't regret going to space. It was life changing.
What she does regret is making a public spectacle out
of it.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
M M.

Speaker 14 (49:25):
Maybe maybe they need to take up book a page
out of like the peat hagscept book. Just don't change course,
Katie Perrot. Just you did the thing, stand by it.
Don't admit you've done anything wrong. Just be proud of
what you did. Just just makes it look weird.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Man. Yeah, the tour would go.

Speaker 14 (49:44):
Would y'all? I love free stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
I would lie I would go live on TikTok and
see if I see if it goes up that far.
I don't know, I mean up up there. Maybe I
want to say.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I have no do to do that.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
I want to, I mean I want to go to
outer space just generally as a sensation. But like if
I have to do that and be one of like
Jeff Bezos's like, uh little puppets on the ship, I
don't know about that.

Speaker 14 (50:14):
So you do a SpaceX flight then yeah, yeah, SpaceX
definitely more for me.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that one.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Goes for the opportunity to shake hands with Jeff Bezos's.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
No, that was I was like always one of the
highest thoughts I had in college, was like, do you
remember that guy Felix Bombgartner like jumped out of that
hot air balloon from outer space? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That to me, I was like, dude, I want to
get so high and do that, like just purely, both
literally and literally in both ways. Just just burn up,

(50:48):
go up in that hot air balloon and be like,
I'm about to feel infinity all That was the thing
I'd always say in college.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Like, dude, just feeling infinity all around you. That ship
must be crazy. Yeah, that was my thing.

Speaker 14 (50:59):
So they need to take the six women that did
the space fight and just hot box in a car
and let's watch the same. Just get them as high
as possible. I want to see Gail King high. I
think she could go to space.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah, that way, she'd probably say some really interesting stuff
I'd imagine.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
All right, I do just want to talk about the
weekend box office. Ryan Coogler's Sinners beat a Minecraft Movie
dethroned a Minecraft Movie and became the number one movie
at the box office. It made forty five point six
million domestically sixty one million worldwide, beating expectations. It's the

(51:35):
best opening for an original film since pre pandemic times.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Wait, so which one was? Oh? Us? So? Us was
the last movie?

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Which was the original pre pam hun okay, so another
black hell interesting film that just it blew away expectations
overperforming people would.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Say to be slightly pegeorged. It's actually overperforming.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
The expectations are always low. That's so weird when it's
a black filmmaker about these filmmakers that they haven't come.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Is Ryan Coogler black?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I believe?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Oh nah, I couldn't be. I know a couple guys
named Ryan who aren't so most of.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
The Ryans I know my homies Ryan all.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
White guy, all white dude. But yeah, So there's a
couple headlines. There's a Variety story and a New York
Times story that like on Sunday, so like the day
that the box office is being like U reported. It
immediately had the backlash take of actually this isn't that good?

(52:40):
Oh like Sovbariety said. Sinners has a mass sixty one
million in its global debut. It's a great result for
an original R rated horror film. Yet the Warner Brothers
release has a ninety million dollar price tag before global
marketing expenses, so profitability remains a ways away.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
Sounds like if it does even a fraction of what
it did this first weekend, it's profitable.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, it's a ways away though, like multiple days, you know,
Jet no never how we report on box office ever before,
But in this case, for some.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
Reason, variety can't get fucked. They were the same people
that put up that dumb Rachel Zegler hit piece laying
like the failures of snow White on at her feet
and being like I think it was because she's pro
Palestinian and the and then you know she had to
do her politics all out loud. That Galagha doc got
death threats, and you're like, what is the meaning of
this piece at all? Like this is nothing to do

(53:33):
with the movie.

Speaker 14 (53:34):
Who are they in the pockets of like the studios?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, it's it's an and it's a trade.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
So like they all have direct sort like lines to
heads of studios that are like we needed you know,
it's like any media.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Really.

Speaker 14 (53:47):
I saw somewhere that the director gets the rights to
this film back in twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, which they don't like.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
It's kind Yeah, I.

Speaker 14 (53:55):
Think studios want to take this down and.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Not exactly, it's not just a pure in it's just
like this.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
This could be everyone's like also spinning it as like
a cautionary tale, like don't give the black creator too
much now, because it's interesting to compare it to it
Once upon a Time in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Because so. The New York Times also claimed Sinner's success
has a big asterisks, again arguing that profitability is far away,
and they also pointed out, Zach, what you were talking
about that Ryan Kugler gets to own the movie after
twenty five years? The New York Times said, despite not

(54:34):
paying for any of it, he gets to own it.
You know, he only wrote, directed, and conceived of it.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
But doing mask off sentence even though he didn't he's
not paying for it.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Oh I'm sorry, Mistergler will then own it despite not
paying for it.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Wow, let me bow and prostrate to the studio for
exploiting my creative.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Like what are you fucking talking about? I think?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
But yeah, so just real quick to compare it to
Once upon a Time in Hollywood they had this same
deal structure. First of all, Tarantino like got ownership of
that movie after a number of years. So this is
not as unprecedent as people are making it seem One
made forty five million on three thousand, three hundred screens

(55:22):
after the pandemic, and Tarantino made forty one million, so
less on three thousand and six hundred screens, so way
more screens, which means that they had higher expectations. And
when that movie came out, everyone was like, it's a
certified box office smash for Quentin Tarantino.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Right, yeah, No, no it wasn't. I mean, I think
just the other stuff. You see so many handring so
much hand ringing, and like these other headlines like it.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Could be the end of the studio system.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
And I mean, I think a lot of the questions
around quote unquote profitability, I'm sure they have nothing to
do with the fact that, again Ryan Kogler, in negotiating
this masterfully, he also secured a first dollar gross deal,
meaning he makes money the second tickets are sold. He
gets a taste of the box office the second tickets
starts selling, as opposed to then like waiting for the

(56:14):
studio to recoup costs, and then you get a taste
of those profits.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Like it's they're like, oh.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
God, this this black man is getting too much. Now,
this could be the end of the studio system. Like
that is just I feel like, so obviously what all.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Of this is about.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
But yeah, sure it's they could be the end of
the studio system, and who knows if it could be
profitable even though they're projecting it's going to do three
hundred million when everything's said and done.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yeah, but they, I mean, Hollywood's famous for managing expectations
and like lying about how much money a movie made
so that they can change how much money they're actually
sharing with the artists who again made the movie. But
they didn't even pay for it. Yeah, so I mean,
why why should they get it? We should we should
be worshiping the people the capital, the people who put

(57:00):
the capital up, not it's not these artists who didn't
even pay for it. It also just reminds me of
that Sony Leak. I bring this up so often, but
it's just such a revealing email exchange where a producer
was arguing that the studio shouldn't invest in Denzel Washington
because black actors don't perform well overseas And this was

(57:26):
not in nineteen eighty seven. They were talking about a
sequel to The Equalizer. You know, after decades of Denzel
being one of like the most surefire movie stars. So
The Equalizer came out in twenty fourteen, was a massive hit,
and this person was like, I just don't see it. Guys. Look,
Denzel's my favorite actor. Okay, he's my favorite actor, my

(57:47):
favorite actor, but we don't want to invest in this
because you know, audiences abroad just aren't going to go
see his movies. By the way, the Equalizer to grossed
one hundred and ninety million dollars on a sixty million
dollar budget. But they just don't want to let black
artists have success because that would mean that like the

(58:12):
system that you know, gay makes it so that they
have their jobs is is wrong? Yeah, you know, and
it's it purely speaks to the exploitative nature of it too,
Like we already don't properly compensate creators for things and
to see something, especially like if a white creator, it's

(58:32):
one thing, but if a black creator is doing it,
now we're talking about quote like the like an existential
crisis over the studio system.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah okay, okay, okay, well good luck with that. Good
luck with that.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
I mean, even like in La and stuff, it's like
if you wanted to see Sinners like it was hard
to catch, like certain screenings of it. It's because people
are going like, this is not some fucking flash in
the pan thing. And it's also as of right now,
it's like his highest rated film that he's put out.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
And yeah, reminder of the studios.

Speaker 13 (59:05):
Let people tell fucking original stories. They fucking people like
new Ship, not fucking snow White and all this other
nonsense over and over again.

Speaker 14 (59:15):
I mean, I just wish that Minecraft and Centers had
come out on the same day so we could have.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Had minors miners.

Speaker 14 (59:25):
Yeah, that's the Harbenheimer, so that everyone miners would be
saving the studio system.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Scrafold Actually, that sounds kind of hot. Scraft crafter.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
That sounds like the problematic like opt them optometry place,
you go to.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Lens crafters.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Oh you went down to sincrafters, did you? I can
tell from those transition lenses. Transition lenses, I don't.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Think so you went to Syncraft not on my watch.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
All right, that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
Please like and review the show if you like, the
show means the world of Miles. He needs your validation, folks.
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk to him Monday.

Speaker 15 (01:00:15):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
I think that to Att