January 25, 2026 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,
without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's some from your storage history? That's anything about who
you are? With you too right now.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's something that I definitely have up and it is
for sure a real thing that I don't need to
stall or scroll for because I do remember, as a
very constant guest of this podcast that I know exactly
what you're gonna ask, and so I don't need to
scroll and scroll and scroll all past history. I don't
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need to hack into anything. I know what's up when
I really TDS, just I really only you work or
look up Real Housewives. Lord, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What's the latest, Lord? You looked up?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I just wanted to see if Vicky Gone Wilson actually
sells insurance.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh my god, VICKI I watch.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm a completionist. I watch each Real Housewives franchise from
the beginning. I watch it all through because it's like
a time capsule for like bad like quality film, you
know what I mean, Like I watch it all the
way through. I'm in season nine of the Real Housewives,
and it's at this point that I'm like, wait, it's
her job real, you know. And so that's what I did.
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That's why I looked at her job. I looked up, like,
what happens to the men they divorced? Which I feel
like with the animals, they probably just put them down.
Oh yeah, what happened to don don ascrave of old
divorced men and dogs that don't show up anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I was gonna say, and like toy poodles and miniature
started if you have the money, just so you know,
she just received she was to the Advisor's Excel Hall
of Fame for some for fucking financial So she's I
don't know, other fucking people who do the ship that
she does are big in her up I have, I
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don't know whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I like that her fads extra large.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's sick. I don't know what it means, but you're sick.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Like podcasts for all of us.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I want to take. I wish, but even the ones
I think I can win, I can't. Okay, uh so
we'll have to we'll see. Maybe I'll get an iHeart podcast. Award. Finally,
I don't know. Apparently they give it to shows that
like have huge audiences rather the sickest audience physically well
fucking who is out there in physical space doing good,
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which is I gang, And I give you my own award.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Growing Up, grow Up. Everybody in this culture is a
baby child person. We really like the privilege of being
an American today is the idea of like, I don't
wanna like, I don't want to grow up. I don't
want to mature. I don't have to change fuck off.
And I mean, like, aren't we all miserable? Aren't we exhausted?
Like he's so underrated to literally change and grow and
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evolve in relationship to external stimuli, like I would love
to encounter more adults who are fucking emotionally regulated, who
like know how to communicate, who are not conflict avoidant,
like grow up. I just it is so we talk
constantly about therapy, culture, about optimization. Everybody's watching the Kuberman
Lab while literally not changing at all. And I'm like, girl,
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if you can take an ice bath every day, maybe
you could also be more emotionally kind to people. Maybe
you could grow and be like best jealous.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And the thing is I like to do these things
because the internal work is too daunting for me. Yeah,
just soak an.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
So you know what, don't talk to people about it,
Like that's fine, Like if that's what you want to do,
Like don't talk about it, don't influence about it, like
go sit in your ibat I bat. But I'm really
coming to a point where I'm like, you know what
I want to see. I want to see people in
my life and in the culture literally changing. Like I
want to see someone I don't see them for three
years and they come back and I'm like, wow, you
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really did evolve, Like that's amazing. I think Americans collectively
are like we don't ever have to evolve in any way.
I'm just like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Argument we oh, so what, I'm going to be a
dinosaur and then turn into a chicken from dude, nobody
calls miles of chicken.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
No crab.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah. I like the point about like therapy culture, like Huberman,
It's that there's an old joke about like somebody was
like telling their friend not to do cocaine because they
had a bad personality, and so it was just going
to be like more of that exactly, and like I
feel like a lot of what people are doing is
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just like optimizing their productivity of bad vibes. I am
off the charge to my ability to produce the selfish,
off putting energy.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I mean, we've talked about this a little bit, but
like I write about, my current research is about psychedelics
and psychedelic healing and transformation. And I have a friend
who said something who works at a wellness institute who said, honestly,
I'm very suspicious of the psychedelic renaissance because I know
a million people who've been doing LSD therapy for twenty
years and they're still total assholes. And like that's like
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I thought that was such a beautiful statement because I
was reminded, like, oh yeah, like the will to actually
transform has nothing to do with perform bullshit about optimizing
yourself and going to therapy and all of those tools
only work if you're actually sincerely doing them in order
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to evolve. And I think the fact that as a
culture we're not able to look at ourselves and be like, wow,
we're really bad at actual behavioral change.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Look to me.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
For me, this goes back to like I always say
this story, like I remember very very distinctly the first
time I went back to therapy in adulthood. I had
the first three sessions of this amazing gay ma al
therapist and he looked at me. Brian Gill in Washington, DC.
If anyone's in DC, you should go. You need a therapist,
go to Brian Gil. He said to me something that
was so powerful. He said, Wow, you are so smart
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about your problems and you have so much insight and
you do so little action. He's like, you just learned
so much about your issues. Yeah, but he's like, when
are you going to actually match that with behavioral chang
And I that struck me so deep because I was like,
that goes against my values to only be thinking about
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something and not doing something about it. Like, I don't
like that idea. And that was the beginning of a
huge journey for me where I was like, okay, girl,
like it's time for you to have learned to lesson
and to actually behave differently. So I think that's underrated.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Amazing, Wow, well said you like structure, And.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, that's because I'm a professor.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's what we do.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
That's why people should listen to us more often.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We actually have a flow a teacher, like a book
or something that alan what something you think is overraded.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Okay, I don't want to stra up anything here, but
and I love and I want to say this with
I love Carrie Coon. And I thought the first season
was phenomenal. Don't don't the left the leftovers.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
No, that's okay, the leftovers.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
I've only I've heard like, oh my god, it's awesome,
and like the reviews are great, and the first season
is like a perfect season on television.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
And then there's just.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
A big like literally just a geographical like they they
just move locations in the second season, and my like,
I I like, I.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Stopped watching it. I'm kind of a master to be
sold on it.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I did a lot of people that that can speak
to it because I I.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Really liked it.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
And I don't know, maybe I was busy at like
a juncture where like I missed out on something. But
I'm right there with you. It got way too boring, okay,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm not I thought you were gonna say guilded Age
was overrated, because how dare you come after the Gilded Age?
That's the that was the joke I was going for
but you meant the leftovers. Yeah, you can only see
a guy drown himself so many times to cross over,
And that was the part I liked.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Actually, that was the only part I thought that was
the Saving Grace show, like will he drown himself more?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
More?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And this it's refusing. Yeah. I think they did switch
show runners too after That's.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
What it was too well and also too it's like
it kind of is this was just a time when like,
you know, we're still in the wake of Lost probably
being the biggest show right that that had a huge footprint.
So it's like there were a lot of shows where
it's like the whole thing was like you don't know
what's going on, and it's like no, no, but we
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kind of do want to. We kind of wanted to
do some sort Yeah it's like no, no, but we don't.
We don't even know.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's like, oh, that's right, I forgot because the second
season just goes to that town in Texas, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's weird. Although I'm like, I think I got through
it because I'm a completionist and once like you tell
me there's a mystery box thing, I'm like well, fuck,
you know, fucking watch alone.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
I think I would have if if the pit and
Industry didn't just come back, I probably would have kept.
I was like, I really just strutching. Oh I love Industry.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I mean I was.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
I was kind of watching it before and and and honestly,
it kind of and I think the show has even
said they're like they're like, you know, we kind of
just vibe or whatever.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
It's like the first season. The first season feels very
like we're soapy. We've got a a lot of young,
hot people. It's like euphoria succession. But then there's an
episode in the last season, in season three, it's like
a bottleneck episode. I think it's called White Mischief. I
can't remember off the top of my head, but it
stars like the character Reshie. It basically it's this guy
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that has like a gambling problem, and it is basically
like a nineteen seventies like Cassavetti's movie. Like in this
one episode of television, the actor I can't remember the
name of his top of my head, but he's doing
like nineteen seventies Al Pacino level acting in this one episode,
and it's like it's literally it's literally just one of
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the best like episodes of anything. It stands alone. So
I always say, like watch that. If you like that,
then give it a shot. But it's you know, it's
it's it's prestige. It's that prestige y.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's like, you know, we've got I wonder how I
wonder how soon the HBO name is also just gonna
get completely fucked over by like oligarchs owning that ship
where like they're mean.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
It already kind of happened and it kind of stood it.
So it's like, I don't.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I mean, it is kind of funny when you're just like.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like when they're like this, there needs to be a
new series on HBO called Malania and me know what
I mean, And they're like, oh my god, you're using
the fucking brand to like prestige wash right, But anyway, yeah,
enough about that, Thanks for that. The Leftover Season two overrated, underrated,
the forest. All right, let's take a quick break and
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when we come back news.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
We're back, and.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Ramsey, you've already given us the celebrity cultures overrated, but
a layer. I get the feeling that you get more.
What's something you think is over.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Age the fantasy romance plot of heated rivalry. Okay, bad
for us, bad for us. I'm sorry. Everybody needs to
get their shit together. The idea of pursuing an emotionally
avoidant slash almost abusive person for ten years because they
might end up becoming your boyfriend in the last ten
days is psychotic. And if you are grown, to go
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back to my first point about being grown underrated, you
grow out of the idea of pursuing people who are
not available. And gay men struggle with this more than anybody.
We're just like, oh my god, he's so hot, I'm
so digmatized, and I guess I'll just maybe have sex
with him twice a year and maybe one day we'll
get married. That's fully unhinged. It does not happen. If
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it does happen, you will be divorced later. Like that
is like to me, I'm like, what's gonna happen after
season one? Real life is going to intervene If you're
gonna unfold the story over four seasons, like I'm sorry, Like,
now they're going to be at circuit parties, they're going
to be doing drugs, they're gonna be dealing with people
trying to steal their man like I'm sorry. Like the
fantasy plot is so praised, and it's like it's not
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serving us. If the reason we're all obsessed with that
romance fantasy is because the dating pool sucks. That show
is not helping make the dating pool better. It's making
people crazier to believe in things that don't exist, so
that when we go back into the dating pool, we
keep behaving badly. So I'm like, I was watching that
show and I was like, ahh, you're not getting me.
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I was like, yes, this is hot.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Fun.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I was like, but I'm not. I am not, You're not.
I was like fighting it. I was like, you are
trying to drag me back to my little twenty two
year old gay baby self wanting things I cannot have
that are bad for me. And I was like, I
will not do this.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, you had the wisdom the person.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
No, I'm literally writing an essay about it. By the way,
between my brother and I used to actually make fun
of me. He was like, why don't you write an
essay about it? And now it's like I'm like.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
It all right, let's uh, let's just talk briefly about uh, well,
what we refer to as kids these days.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, learning in the world, Chad GPT, phone and social media, addiction,
porn addiction, the manisphere. I'm just curious to hear from you,
as somebody who is in touch with them on a
regular basis, how they doing. We we talked hopefully earlier
this year about like the phone band in high schools
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seeming to change people's behavior, learning environments in New York State.
What do you see on your end listen?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
So many of the students I work with are the coolest,
most amazing, most inspiring, loving Ama. I mean, I'm watching
my students get into law school at Harvard, become doctor,
go off and work for nonprofits direct rape crisis. I mean,
they're amazing. I'm just I'm amazed. This generation is a
really beautiful mixture of deeply socially and politically conscious and
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also like good to themselves. They're like better to themselves,
they take care of themselves better, they rest like those
things I think are amazing. I think the problem is
is that they don't know the things that are bad
for them, and they don't actually know how to take
a break. I said once recently to someone that like
social media is like that abusive boyfriend that you know
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is not going to give you what you want, but
every once in a while he's nice to you, so
you're like, oh my god, that felt so good, so
let me keep going back to it. And I think
as a generation, they are responding in a dopamine driven
way to a variety of things that are bad for
them in the culture like AI. I will sit and
have a conversation with my students where I'm like, why
are you using AI? Like, let's be honest, You're literally
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just allowing a machine to do your thinking for you,
which is making you dumber, which is making you less
able to make like basic judgments about things like fucking groceries,
like that's bad, And they honestly are like, I kind
of don't know. I don't know. It makes me feel
like I'm saving time. I'm like doing what did you
write a fucking book? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Like writing and watch the Huberman Lab to find out
more ways that I could save time.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Going out into sunlight cortisol right now exactly. And so
what's amazing is that when you actually have honest conversations
with them about like what are you doing like, look
at your life, look at your choices, you know, like
what are you doing? They're just like, I actually don't
know why I'm doing that, And now that I think
about it, like maybe it doesn't make that much sense.
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They are like they're very quick to be aware, but
this is not good for them. I don't know that
they have models of how not to do it because
the rest of us who are not grown, to go
back to my old point, are not modeling for them
what it's like to actually make good decisions about taking
care of our mental well being in the face of
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these things. So I think like they're stuck between a
rock and a hard place, where they're sort of like
entering a society that's telling them like, you're never going
to get any of the things that you want. You're
not going to get a house, you're not going to
get more money, You're not gonna get all these things,
and so of course you would want to turn to
social media and chat, GPT whatever for little moments of
joy when the really big goals feel out of reach.
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So they are. It's not so much that the kids
are not all right. It's like the it's what gob
or mate says, right, the holistic medical expert. Like, the
culture they're in is toxic, so they're trying to navigate
that and they're doing it in as best conditions as
they can. But I think what they're lacking the most,
truly like where they're really really at a disadvantage. They
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need more intergenerational exchange with smart, wise people like That
is why they need to go to school. That is
why they need to be in different kinds of social
programs where they have mentors who are older. They need
to be in conversation with people that have gone through
what they've gone through and said here's another path, right,
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here would be another way, and we need to be
talking to them because they also have great ideas about
social media addiction.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I know they were the first ones who, like I
have younger cousins who were like, yeah, I've taken a
break from social media at a time when I was like,
oh what huh, They're like, oh, because it's an addictive exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh yeah, they.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Knew it before other people.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah. Why do you think that because to your point
about like needing those interactions, why do you think that's
lack of what's the difference in terms of like, because
I think back of my own career professionally, personally, I
had those intersections and interactions with people that helped fucking
change my thing. But what is the difference? Is it
just because it's everything is so less person to person
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that that's going by the wayside, or just culturally for
them it's less of an interest to interact with older people.
And well, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's that's a great question. My premonition based on what
I see is that it has a lot to do
with the insolarity of digital worlds. So like what they
are on social media and in TikTok, they're interacting with
very limited demographics of viewership or people of their own
generation that like certain things, and combine that with an
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amazing amount of social anxiety. Like most young people in
gen Z believe that the majority of their interactions with
adults are interactions where they are being judged on their performance,
Like the amount of work you guys, that I have
to do in a classroom to remind my students that
the grade that they're going to get at the end
really means nothing. Like the experience of meeting in a
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group once a week for two and a half hours
and talking about ideas will transform their cellular being. And
at the end, if you like put in the effort,
you will most likely get a good grade. But the
idea that like, they're concerned that if I don't give
them the grade they want that their life will be ruined.
Some of them have fucking suicidal ideation about grades. Unless
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you're gonna go get a medical degree or a PhD,
nobody cares what your grades are as an undergrad, Like,
you should be excited to do well because you want
to do well, because you're paying a lot of money
and you want to put in the effort, et cetera,
not because someone's judging you. So I think there is
this perception that adults exist to judge them, and they're
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afraid of interacting with us and revealing stupidity, lack of knowledge,
lack of wisdom, et cetera. And I have to do
so much. I have to be a therapist basically, where
I tell my students, I am not here to be
judgmental towards you. I'm here to help you practice good judgment.
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So sometimes I'm gonna say, hmm, do you really believe
that where did that idea come from?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
It doesn't mean I think less of you, It doesn't
mean I think that you're worthless. So there's so much
of a block towards talking to older people because of
a fear of being judged.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Yeah, that makes sense, Yeah, which is how social media
can operate the feel Yes, totally. All right, we're gonna
get back into just sort of pop cultural stuff, specifically
with regards to the right, trying to take some of
our comic books, some of our sci fi things. But
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we do want to just talk touch on this Trump
press conference real quick, because he really let his unfit
for office flag fly.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, just continue to prove the haters right. So he
gave a press conference and by that he just went
up on stage with somewhat of a plan rhetorically, and
then after he got the first rehearsed sort of sentenced out,
he immediately went into Trump jazz and just started doing
some down improv baby. And the main point of this
pressure was to pump his own dick up about all
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the accomplishments he's had one year into the second term.
And he starts off with a big pile of papers
he's holding that literally says accomplishments on it.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
The proof.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, to prove how much good has been done, because
he has a melted brain that could only work in
literal terms. Now, so this is like the let me
just play it. I'm gonna give a few moments where
you can see where this was headed and where it went.
So first, this is him just again starting off somewhat coherent,
being like, look, guys, I've done a lot in a year,
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and more than anybody, even though that's not true, but again,
that's what he's trying to sell to people.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Individual things.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
I could stand here and read it for a week
and we wouldn't be finished.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It's accomplishments.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Done by far in terms of military, in terms of
ending wars, in terms.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Of okay, so low energy. You can tell he's kind
of like ending.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He keeps like kind of closing his eyes.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
They keep telling me to say this stuff. Okay, so
I'll fucking say that part. Then it starts going off
the rails, like in this part, he begins to like
cast doubt on like the sincerity of protesters in Minnesota,
based on how well people were screaming shame at ICE
agents and they.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Paid, you know, when the wall was shot, and I
felt terribly about that.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
The wall was shot.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
I understand both sides of it. But when she was shot,
a woman that was screaming, shame, shame, shame, shame, right,
he said, so loud, like a professional opera singer. She
was so loud, it was so professional. She was Wow,
there was hurt, like, oh my heart's injured. She was
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a professional. Just shame shame. She's screaming, shame shap I said,
that's not a normal per that's that's a professional.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, so professional, do with anything again, because everything's like
the outrage is not real because what's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Happening is people would disagree with me aren't real. They're
paid exactly, So then you can't you can't yell shame
like that will. By the way, that woman's voice was
quivering with rage, Yeah yeah, yeah, well, which because she
had just witnessed somebody her neighbor be murdered.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
By the way, the interpretation of this person's statement means nothing.
I mean, this is what I think we've arrived at,
where like whatever his statement about anything in the world is,
it doesn't really matter what his interpretation is. If you
live in a democracy, the people get to say what
they think and what they believe, and if mass groups
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of people are saying, we don't like this. It doesn't
matter whether you thought one protester was fake or not.
It doesn't Well, yes, that's beside the point. So I mean,
that's what's so amazing is the amplifying of these minute
details that really are like missing the forest for the trees.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right. Then he goes on to talk about how the
binder clip that's holding all of his accomplishment papers together
pinched his singies. But you know what I don't I'm
a big boy and I don't cry is essentially what
he says.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Accomplishments And this is something I'm glad my finger wasn't
and that's so good.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
They could have done some damage.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
But you know what, I wouldn't have shown the pain.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I can't where have we arrived to?
Speaker 9 (25:29):
That was this?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Okay? But I wouldn't have showed the pain. Like when
I got my shots the other day, I didn't cry.
The doctor did give me a lollipop.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It was nice.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Then again, it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Was late year on it buzz late. You're a good
friend of mine, said very nice things about me.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Further down the drain, now he just starts meandering, rambling, Oh, well,
what happened.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
To Sleepy Joe? What happened to the sleepy Joe accusation?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, now he's making fun of his cancer or diagnosis.
Seems to be what Trump has been doing, and people
are like, Jesus, what the fuck? So this is him?
Now he says something about DC's safe, and now your
lover isn't going to be killed anymore. I don't love
her with your loved one, with your lover.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
That word coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Listen this part.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
He just lover's not going to be killed, and they know,
so he can act like a real lover.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And then what but you can be You.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Can walk right through the middle of the town and
DC is beautiful again too.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know, Wow, Amen, your lover is not going to
be killed anymore, and you can act like real lovers.
Then he does more racist shit. We don't, We've already
heard it some all these bad Minnesota He's like, Minnesota
actually won you lost that straight three times? So again
miss us with your fake reality, and then wraps the
(26:50):
whole thing up with an exasperated gesture at his pile
of papers aka accomplishments to be like I mean like,
well I think he at that point doesn't know what
to say anymore, but he knows he has this big
pile of papers to prove how much he's done, and
this is the most he can get out.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Here's the book, holds.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
It up, things we have.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
I'm gonna read a few of the samples, but look at.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This helps it for the microphone.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That each line is somebody who did that before, and
it did what to if we have.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
The hottest country in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Throws it up. So yeah, this was the beginning.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He gets big stuff too, of.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think everyone in Davos being like, oh, this guy's
about to pull up and talk call Greenland, Iceland.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
It is.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
There's stuff actually living on the pages, this big stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Each line and accomplishment give me a corner, Daddy.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Nobody's ever done that before, nobody's ever done what before written,
Nobody has been this out of sorts and president at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Uh so again, this is like, you know, think all
part of the slow, slow sort of percolating headlines or
I guess now because money is at stake, people are like,
I think this.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Guy's because president, because Wall Street has starting to feel
the pain, like suddenly there might be some consequences.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, h are tolerance for this level of insanity and incompetence,
like the incapacity to put together a sentence, like the
production of an entire political regime based on random gestures
and exclamatory statement, Like that's so wild to me, right,
(28:35):
because part of it is that he knows that the
content doesn't matter. It's a certain kind of performance of
your great grandfather at the head of the thanksgiving table
being like you just have to respect me because fuck off. Yeah,
And people are like, we know this is awful and
we hate this, but we will sit quietly and endure,
you know. And then there are people who are sort
(28:57):
of like I enjoy this because it means I don't
have to make sense if the if the most powerful
person on the planet does not need to make sense,
then the rest of us don't and you don't have
to explain ourselves. And I think there's a certain kind
of like almost like erotic fantasy around like yes, like
I could be this unhinged and I don't have to
(29:17):
explain myself to anyone, and like it's just it's that's wow.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, the like you were talking about the celebrity culture
is like part of it is us dreaming of being
better than other people by assuming and so in this case,
it's like people are getting out of this seeing him
go up there and just rambling coherently, and because they're
I guess insulated from the consequences, they're just like that
(29:46):
that makes me feel good.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's like, yeah, I think that's right. He's well, he's
like I think, really at this one, he's like the
peak sort of like manifestation of infallible white male power.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I was just going to say it is about failing
upward to infinity, but I really do.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
But I think for him to be a white like
you could only be a white man and be so
transparently out of sorts, so obviously senile, and no one
says anything about it, and people say yes, sir, yes, sir.
You're like, now, that's some shit.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
His continued existence in a position of power is the
ultimate statement of like, yes, the world done by white
supremacy to just be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
There are many ironies to this, and one of them
is is that people who claim to be as supporters
are obsessed with the American family and the nuclear family
and having kids, and the very reason that people are
not getting married and not having children and not wanting
to do all of that stuff is because that is
the dominant mode of the masculinity in this country, and
people are like there, you might celebrate that on TV.
(30:53):
In people's inner personal life, many of the people that
adore him would never want to sit at a dinner
table with him, find him absolutely insufferable. The charisma is
not innate to him. It is what you just said,
which is that it's appealing to watch someone be this
unhinged and to be like they still keep winning. Yeah,
(31:16):
like that's that's almost such a mind fuck to people
that that's the entertainment is to be like, oh my god.
And at what point do people collectively say, this is
now destroying our lives so much that we must put
a stop to it. And I think our tolerance in
this country has become almost infinite.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, well that is crazy. The limit is when it
affects my stock portfolio, right, really bad, apparently, because it
wasn't enough when like marginalized people were just tossed to
the side and being killed and kidnapped. Yeah, it's just
now because like aus again, everything with America, it's like
it has to fucking be right, in your face, smashing
this shit out of your face for the rest of
(31:53):
America to get it, because it's not enough when the
people in the margins have warn everybody about it. It's like, well,
I need to get hit by the train head off
before you tell me there. I'll believe you then that
a train was coming.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Well, and also, like, you know what mystifies me, you guys,
as somebody who studies American culture, like I studied the
period after World War Two, so like I study the
Cold War, so much of what's happening now has happened before. Yeah, McCarthyism,
the internment camps for Japanese people, like this. It's not
like all of this is totally new. There are new
versions of it that are more extreme, that are more
(32:27):
horrible than whatever. But what fascinates me is the inability
of Americans, left right and center to simply accept that
certain policies and ways of doing things are ineffective. One
could sit in a room with ten people who all
agree that immigration is a problem and needs to be addressed.
(32:47):
Is this particular way of doing it effective besides making
people miserable collectively? It's not, because it's not actually about
solving the problem of immigration. It's about creating a vibe.
It's about creating a vibe of constant threat and danger.
But so like, to me, the inability of people of
(33:08):
any political persuasion to just say I get what you're
trying to do, but I just don't think it works right,
like like like that is just so mind boggling to me.
It's so simple to just say this is a not
effective way of accomplishing something.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah. Unfortunately, like all these people, especially for people who
say that these ICE agents are correct and these raids
are necessary, they've used the term immigration to sort of
mask their just deeper desires for like a white Ethno state.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
The Minneapolis Police Department just came out and was like,
our off duty officers keep being targeted by ICE and
all of them have to be people of color. Course, Yeah,
they're just rolling up on off duty officers with guns
drawn and saying like, show us your papers, and they're like,
what papers?
Speaker 11 (33:58):
I live.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I've lived here my whole life exactly. And then yeah,
it's the chief of police that I wish I could
tell you that this was an isolated incident. If it
is happening to our officers pains me. To think about
how many of our community members have been.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Victims speaking of Overton police, Yeah, speaking of Overton windows
and the opportunity that presents gods, the cops, man, somebody's
being your pr team, Like we might be able to
kind of win hearts and minds back if we kind
of stand for something. And again, that's never gonna happen,
because that whole thing is rotten to the core.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
All right, let's take a quick break. We're gonna come back.
We're going tucks and pop culture. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And we're back. So January not typically known for its
hot new movie releases. In fact, I think it's usually
like the movie Graveyard is around now in February. So
color me shocked when I found out that the Chris
Pratt thriller Mercy is dropping today. I had no fucking
(35:06):
idea this was a movie until about thirty five minutes ago.
And now as we do a little bit of a
dive into it and the story that jam wrote for us,
we just watched the trailer for this movie, and let
me just I'll just give you the sort of like
the quick logley. Set in twenty twenty nine, Pratt plays
lapd officer Chris Raven Okay, his name is still Chris,
(35:27):
thank god, who was accused of murdering his wife. His
trial involves being strapped to an electric chair for ninety
minutes and arguing his case in front of an AI
judge played by Rebecca Ferguson. If he doesn't quote present
evidence that nudges the probability of guilt below ninety two
percent in the allotted time, he will be fucking electrocuted
to death. Executed, which sounds like sounds like it sounds
(35:52):
like a real boring I'm from what I saw on
the trailer. He's sitting in a chair the whole time.
But what is cool that we do find out is
in order to prove his innocence, he gets to search
all of the available data on Earth. Basically, it's like
every camera, every text message, fucking anything to prove his innocence.
But he is strapped to the chair, and he can
(36:15):
even phone friends like fucking who wants to be a millionaire?
Speaker 12 (36:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
He reaches out to his teenage daughter to proclaim his innocence,
to his AA sponsor and friend in search for answers,
and even to his police partner to help track down
The Real Murderer. A few critics have said these are
some of the helines quotes. It's early in the year,
but this Chris Pratton dud may just be the worst
movie of twenty twenty six. Another one, the Daily Beast,
the worst movie of twenty twenty six is here, and
(36:39):
it's only January. Here's the fun bit it was. It
was directed by timour Beck Mambatov, who is the guy
who produced that ice Cube War of the World's movie.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
On Amazon Oh Wow, which is another fucking movie about
a dude sitting in a fucking chair looking at.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Computer screens for an hour and a half. Like is
this this new thing?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
It's a new genre. It's man in room looking at
screens and it's man, man.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Do you guys remember this is a long time ago,
but there was a really short lived this is like
in the wake of maybe Who Wants to Be a
Millionaire or whatever, like crazy game show Chamber.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
I think there was a one called.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
Literally the Chair and like you sit in a chair
and I just remember, like and I think they ask
you questions and like but they're like they're doing such
a scary like so like they make it really hot.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And so it was the chair, yeah, and I just
remember there.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Was like I think one of the pictures, one of
the commercials for it was like they're like, what's your
biggest fear? And she's like alligators and then it's just
like an alligator like on a swing, is like swinging
towards this lady in a chair, and it's just like, okay,
well let's give be We made like the thirty rock
version movie of that game show into a reality.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I remember that was like at the peak absurdity of
the Fox game shows. Like I was like, yeah, yeah,
they did like Man versus Beast around that time too.
It's like how many little people would it take to
beat an elephant in a tug of war? And you're like, dude,
way more than what you casted. I'm sorry they got
wrecked immediately, or like other ones are like uh, they
(38:17):
had Kobayashi trying hot dogs as a bear classic, so
I love I remember him.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
I have like a saying bolt like righting against a
cheetah or like a zebra or something like that, Like yeah,
there's just like racing animals.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Was it also hosted by John McEnroe. If it wasn't
what a what a missed up for dude. I think, yeah,
n dude, Okay, look at this cli get mac and
Roe out of the boot. I remember there was one
where like because you're just getting distracted in this chair
asking being simple Ei. There there's like one clip I
remember seeing where the chair is vibrating so much that
I couldn't even think he's like the vibrations. They're like, sir,
(38:56):
how many stripes on an American? The chair? The vibrations? Vibrations?
A fucking game show?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Is this?
Speaker 11 (39:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Here, here's a clip I look at. That show is
actually called The City.
Speaker 8 (39:09):
It's back.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
He's got fifty six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's the chair.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
Red line right, it's gonna drop another five percent. And Doug,
if you redline now, you lose two hundred dollars a seconds.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
The vibrations. Okay, anyway, the show was absolutely dumb, But yeah,
you're glad.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
I'm so glad someone's clipping that they put it on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
People clip the fuck out of those. I was always like, dude,
you remember man Verse Beast like some of my friends
in high school and they're like what, and like, we
fucking watched it at my house, dude, we got together
to watch this ship. There are plenty of there's dude,
there are so many cups of the chair. Oh no,
this was ABC. I'm sorry, I'm sorry ABC. I didn't
even comes with a terrible Fox. But this was that
(40:00):
same era. Nothing mattered. I think this is like, was
this post nine to eleven? I think, yeah, this feels
very post nine to eleven anyways, right Cannon, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,
two thousand and two, yep, exactly. We had to put
our greatest minds into that. So anyway, this movie honestly
less interesting than even watching old clips of the game
(40:21):
show hosted by because for some reason this also this
movie is being released in three D and imax. Good
a fucking movie about a guy strapped to a chair
and be like, I read us and make the line
go down. What a fucking just an abomination, Well says,
(40:42):
this is a tax right off.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
You got to see it in theaters too, because then
you're also in a chair and so you're kind of
in the stadium. Yeah, yeah, you're kind of held hostage
by this situation.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And you might you might, you might die after night. Yeah,
advance sales, Look, it comes out today, so maybe things
could change, but just from today's looking at the advanced sales,
uh empty, Yeah, but you can see wherever you want
up and share prognosticators forecasters say what. It may not
(41:14):
even reach double digits at the box office.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
The sever lining of this awful movie is like, maybe
we finally reached peak Chris Pratt, peak Pratt praturation. Yeah yeah,
and we'll kind of get to move on.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, the prattissants may be over for the man who's
just been prattling along for so long. This is really funny, though.
Chris Pratt really took this seriously. He was during the
media fucking campaign for this, he was selling people he
almost went method for the role, and he's almost what
do you mean almost? He said quote I told the
director to lock me in the chair for real for
(41:51):
up to fifty minutes at a time. WHOA, So yeah, dude,
Jackie Chan, you may do your own stunts. Chris Pratt
does his own sitting, so hold that shits. This is
what he said how he asked the director to put
him in the chair for in the in the chair
for real quote. I thought this would help lend itself
to the performance and feelings of claustrophobia and being trapped.
I was sweating, so if my face itched, I couldn't
(42:14):
scratch it and I couldn't get up. I'm always eager
to try new things, to be challenged in different ways,
and maybe give audiences something they might not expect from me,
like sitting in a chair. So sitting in that chair,
you know they you know what they should be standing.
That's not all me, that's not all I do. I
contained my legs. Yeah, the bed is going to be compelling.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
They should have made the chair like a character of
and of itself, and the chair should have had like
a sort of like gruff, sort of like snarky attitude,
or the chair be like, hey, why don't I try?
Why don't I try sitting on your ass for a change,
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, come on, come on, chair. My guilt probability is
hovering right at ninety two point one percent. If we
can get a blow two tenths, we're ight of here.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
I don't know, buddy, What I know for sure is
you're guilty at stinking Come on a chair.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't go to your work if fart in your mouth. Okay,
I don't know, it's better than what we just saw.
To your point, Blake, we watched the trailer. It basically
sums up the whole film, which is how you know
it's bad. Also, they're like, look, dude, here it is
no surprises to check it out. Maybe I don't know.
(43:31):
I don't know. The other thing though, too, is that
Prad also said their role is quote a real departure
for me because he's quote a homicide detective in the
near future. Oh, that's definitely a departure because if I
don't know, if you noticed, Chris Pride is not a
homicide direct detective in the near future right now. So
(43:54):
range range range the other thing. And also the character
is called Chris. What the fuck?
Speaker 11 (44:00):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (44:00):
Then I think it doesn't have that much range. Yeah,
if you have a different first nahble have no idea.
If you're talking detective detective detective Chris, Chris, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
This fucking chair, I tell you, no, no, hold on,
hold on, I haven't even said action. You just start.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
That's not that's not the chair. You're just in your
green room.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's the chair a method. I told you, I tell
you so. The other thing, though, too, is the thing
about the AI judge like the movie could have maybe
said something about the rush to adopt AI or even
it's weird ass mischaracterization of like well, crime's out of control. Therefore,
we just need computers to do summary executions of people
(44:49):
like we've already have, like we've seen we've talked about
on the show, like dumb ass legal proceedings that have
used AI, or like people trying to use like AI,
like deep fake lawyers and shit. There's a lot you
could say here, but again, the fucking message apparently is
that like even though this thing's like I'm innocent and
you almost fucking killed me, the message is like pro
(45:12):
AI and like they're sort of like, hey man, human
and AI, we're pretty similar, huh, and that we both
are fucking dumb and useless.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
We're both bad at our jobs.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, yeah, and love chairs call it a push. Let's
call it a push. All right, great? Great, thanks, I'm Chris. Anyway,
so uh that gang, let me know if you even
if you maybe do a if you're theater hopping and
you happen to go in there or maybe it's too
scary because no one's in the theater, because that is
kind of an upsetting way to watch a movie. I'm not.
Every time I've been in a theater when it's like
(45:43):
a big theater and it's kind of empty, it's not.
I'm not one of those people's like I love it.
I'm a little bit like, what the fuck Yea, I
don't really want to fucking go like The fucking Leftovers
or some shit. One of the best shows ever with
Carrie Kon getting blasted through a bulletproof vest for funsies.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Anyway, all Right, that's gonna do it for this week's
weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show. If you like,
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Speaker 9 (46:14):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk to you Monday. Bye.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,
without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's some from your storage history? That's anything about who
you are? With you too right now.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's something that I definitely have up and it is
for sure a real thing that I don't need to
stall or scroll for because I do remember, as a
very constant guest of this podcast that I know exactly
what you're gonna ask, and so I don't need to
scroll and scroll and scroll all past history. I don't
(00:57):
need to hack into anything. I know what's up when
I really TDS, just I really only you work or
look up Real Housewives. Lord, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What's the latest, Lord? You looked up?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I just wanted to see if Vicky Gone Wilson actually
sells insurance.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh my god, VICKI I watch.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm a completionist. I watch each Real Housewives franchise from
the beginning. I watch it all through because it's like
a time capsule for like bad like quality film, you
know what I mean, Like I watch it all the
way through. I'm in season nine of the Real Housewives,
and it's at this point that I'm like, wait, it's
her job real, you know. And so that's what I did.
(01:50):
That's why I looked at her job. I looked up, like,
what happens to the men they divorced? Which I feel
like with the animals, they probably just put them down.
Oh yeah, what happened to don don ascrave of old
divorced men and dogs that don't show up anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I was gonna say, and like toy poodles and miniature
started if you have the money, just so you know,
she just received she was to the Advisor's Excel Hall
of Fame for some for fucking financial So she's I
don't know, other fucking people who do the ship that
she does are big in her up I have, I
(02:30):
don't know whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I like that her fads extra large.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's sick. I don't know what it means, but you're sick.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Like podcasts for all of us.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I want to take. I wish, but even the ones
I think I can win, I can't. Okay, uh so
we'll have to we'll see. Maybe I'll get an iHeart podcast. Award. Finally,
I don't know. Apparently they give it to shows that
like have huge audiences rather the sickest audience physically well
fucking who is out there in physical space doing good,
(03:05):
which is I gang, And I give you my own award.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Growing Up, grow Up. Everybody in this culture is a
baby child person. We really like the privilege of being
an American today is the idea of like, I don't
wanna like, I don't want to grow up. I don't
want to mature. I don't have to change fuck off.
And I mean, like, aren't we all miserable? Aren't we exhausted?
Like he's so underrated to literally change and grow and
(03:32):
evolve in relationship to external stimuli, like I would love
to encounter more adults who are fucking emotionally regulated, who
like know how to communicate, who are not conflict avoidant,
like grow up. I just it is so we talk
constantly about therapy, culture, about optimization. Everybody's watching the Kuberman
Lab while literally not changing at all. And I'm like, girl,
(03:55):
if you can take an ice bath every day, maybe
you could also be more emotionally kind to people. Maybe
you could grow and be like best jealous.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And the thing is I like to do these things
because the internal work is too daunting for me. Yeah,
just soak an.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
So you know what, don't talk to people about it,
Like that's fine, Like if that's what you want to do,
Like don't talk about it, don't influence about it, like
go sit in your ibat I bat. But I'm really
coming to a point where I'm like, you know what
I want to see. I want to see people in
my life and in the culture literally changing. Like I
want to see someone I don't see them for three
years and they come back and I'm like, wow, you
(04:31):
really did evolve, Like that's amazing. I think Americans collectively
are like we don't ever have to evolve in any way.
I'm just like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Argument we oh, so what, I'm going to be a
dinosaur and then turn into a chicken from dude, nobody
calls miles of chicken.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
No crab.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah. I like the point about like therapy culture, like Huberman,
It's that there's an old joke about like somebody was
like telling their friend not to do cocaine because they
had a bad personality, and so it was just going
to be like more of that exactly, and like I
feel like a lot of what people are doing is
(05:16):
just like optimizing their productivity of bad vibes. I am
off the charge to my ability to produce the selfish,
off putting energy.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I mean, we've talked about this a little bit, but
like I write about, my current research is about psychedelics
and psychedelic healing and transformation. And I have a friend
who said something who works at a wellness institute who said, honestly,
I'm very suspicious of the psychedelic renaissance because I know
a million people who've been doing LSD therapy for twenty
years and they're still total assholes. And like that's like
(05:49):
I thought that was such a beautiful statement because I
was reminded, like, oh yeah, like the will to actually
transform has nothing to do with perform bullshit about optimizing
yourself and going to therapy and all of those tools
only work if you're actually sincerely doing them in order
(06:11):
to evolve. And I think the fact that as a
culture we're not able to look at ourselves and be like, wow,
we're really bad at actual behavioral change.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Look to me.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
For me, this goes back to like I always say
this story, like I remember very very distinctly the first
time I went back to therapy in adulthood. I had
the first three sessions of this amazing gay ma al
therapist and he looked at me. Brian Gill in Washington, DC.
If anyone's in DC, you should go. You need a therapist,
go to Brian Gil. He said to me something that
was so powerful. He said, Wow, you are so smart
(06:45):
about your problems and you have so much insight and
you do so little action. He's like, you just learned
so much about your issues. Yeah, but he's like, when
are you going to actually match that with behavioral chang
And I that struck me so deep because I was like,
that goes against my values to only be thinking about
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something and not doing something about it. Like, I don't
like that idea. And that was the beginning of a
huge journey for me where I was like, okay, girl,
like it's time for you to have learned to lesson
and to actually behave differently. So I think that's underrated.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Amazing, Wow, well said you like structure, And.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, that's because I'm a professor.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's what we do.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
That's why people should listen to us more often.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We actually have a flow a teacher, like a book
or something that alan what something you think is overraded.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Okay, I don't want to stra up anything here, but
and I love and I want to say this with
I love Carrie Coon. And I thought the first season
was phenomenal. Don't don't the left the leftovers.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
No, that's okay, the leftovers.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
I've only I've heard like, oh my god, it's awesome,
and like the reviews are great, and the first season
is like a perfect season on television.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
And then there's just.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
A big like literally just a geographical like they they
just move locations in the second season, and my like,
I I like, I.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Stopped watching it. I'm kind of a master to be
sold on it.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I did a lot of people that that can speak
to it because I I.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Really liked it.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
And I don't know, maybe I was busy at like
a juncture where like I missed out on something. But
I'm right there with you. It got way too boring, okay,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm not I thought you were gonna say guilded Age
was overrated, because how dare you come after the Gilded Age?
That's the that was the joke I was going for
but you meant the leftovers. Yeah, you can only see
a guy drown himself so many times to cross over,
And that was the part I liked.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Actually, that was the only part I thought that was
the Saving Grace show, like will he drown himself more?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
More?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And this it's refusing. Yeah. I think they did switch
show runners too after That's.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
What it was too well and also too it's like
it kind of is this was just a time when like,
you know, we're still in the wake of Lost probably
being the biggest show right that that had a huge footprint.
So it's like there were a lot of shows where
it's like the whole thing was like you don't know
what's going on, and it's like no, no, but we
(09:25):
kind of do want to. We kind of wanted to
do some sort Yeah it's like no, no, but we don't.
We don't even know.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's like, oh, that's right, I forgot because the second
season just goes to that town in Texas, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's weird. Although I'm like, I think I got through
it because I'm a completionist and once like you tell
me there's a mystery box thing, I'm like well, fuck,
you know, fucking watch alone.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
I think I would have if if the pit and
Industry didn't just come back, I probably would have kept.
I was like, I really just strutching. Oh I love Industry.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I mean I was.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
I was kind of watching it before and and and honestly,
it kind of and I think the show has even
said they're like they're like, you know, we kind of
just vibe or whatever.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
It's like the first season. The first season feels very
like we're soapy. We've got a a lot of young,
hot people. It's like euphoria succession. But then there's an
episode in the last season, in season three, it's like
a bottleneck episode. I think it's called White Mischief. I
can't remember off the top of my head, but it
stars like the character Reshie. It basically it's this guy
(10:28):
that has like a gambling problem, and it is basically
like a nineteen seventies like Cassavetti's movie. Like in this
one episode of television, the actor I can't remember the
name of his top of my head, but he's doing
like nineteen seventies Al Pacino level acting in this one episode,
and it's like it's literally it's literally just one of
(10:49):
the best like episodes of anything. It stands alone. So
I always say, like watch that. If you like that,
then give it a shot. But it's you know, it's
it's it's prestige. It's that prestige y.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's like, you know, we've got I wonder how I
wonder how soon the HBO name is also just gonna
get completely fucked over by like oligarchs owning that ship
where like they're mean.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
It already kind of happened and it kind of stood it.
So it's like, I don't.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I mean, it is kind of funny when you're just like.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like when they're like this, there needs to be a
new series on HBO called Malania and me know what
I mean, And they're like, oh my god, you're using
the fucking brand to like prestige wash right, But anyway, yeah,
enough about that, Thanks for that. The Leftover Season two overrated, underrated,
the forest. All right, let's take a quick break and
(11:41):
when we come back news.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
We're back, and.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Ramsey, you've already given us the celebrity cultures overrated, but
a layer. I get the feeling that you get more.
What's something you think is over.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Age the fantasy romance plot of heated rivalry. Okay, bad
for us, bad for us. I'm sorry. Everybody needs to
get their shit together. The idea of pursuing an emotionally
avoidant slash almost abusive person for ten years because they
might end up becoming your boyfriend in the last ten
days is psychotic. And if you are grown, to go
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back to my first point about being grown underrated, you
grow out of the idea of pursuing people who are
not available. And gay men struggle with this more than anybody.
We're just like, oh my god, he's so hot, I'm
so digmatized, and I guess I'll just maybe have sex
with him twice a year and maybe one day we'll
get married. That's fully unhinged. It does not happen. If
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it does happen, you will be divorced later. Like that
is like to me, I'm like, what's gonna happen after
season one? Real life is going to intervene If you're
gonna unfold the story over four seasons, like I'm sorry, Like,
now they're going to be at circuit parties, they're going
to be doing drugs, they're gonna be dealing with people
trying to steal their man like I'm sorry. Like the
fantasy plot is so praised, and it's like it's not
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serving us. If the reason we're all obsessed with that
romance fantasy is because the dating pool sucks. That show
is not helping make the dating pool better. It's making
people crazier to believe in things that don't exist, so
that when we go back into the dating pool, we
keep behaving badly. So I'm like, I was watching that
show and I was like, ahh, you're not getting me.
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I was like, yes, this is hot.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Fun.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I was like, but I'm not. I am not, You're not.
I was like fighting it. I was like, you are
trying to drag me back to my little twenty two
year old gay baby self wanting things I cannot have
that are bad for me. And I was like, I
will not do this.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, you had the wisdom the person.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
No, I'm literally writing an essay about it. By the way,
between my brother and I used to actually make fun
of me. He was like, why don't you write an
essay about it? And now it's like I'm like.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
It all right, let's uh, let's just talk briefly about uh, well,
what we refer to as kids these days.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, learning in the world, Chad GPT, phone and social media, addiction,
porn addiction, the manisphere. I'm just curious to hear from you,
as somebody who is in touch with them on a
regular basis, how they doing. We we talked hopefully earlier
this year about like the phone band in high schools
(14:41):
seeming to change people's behavior, learning environments in New York State.
What do you see on your end listen?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
So many of the students I work with are the coolest,
most amazing, most inspiring, loving Ama. I mean, I'm watching
my students get into law school at Harvard, become doctor,
go off and work for nonprofits direct rape crisis. I mean,
they're amazing. I'm just I'm amazed. This generation is a
really beautiful mixture of deeply socially and politically conscious and
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also like good to themselves. They're like better to themselves,
they take care of themselves better, they rest like those
things I think are amazing. I think the problem is
is that they don't know the things that are bad
for them, and they don't actually know how to take
a break. I said once recently to someone that like
social media is like that abusive boyfriend that you know
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is not going to give you what you want, but
every once in a while he's nice to you, so
you're like, oh my god, that felt so good, so
let me keep going back to it. And I think
as a generation, they are responding in a dopamine driven
way to a variety of things that are bad for
them in the culture like AI. I will sit and
have a conversation with my students where I'm like, why
are you using AI? Like, let's be honest, You're literally
(15:58):
just allowing a machine to do your thinking for you,
which is making you dumber, which is making you less
able to make like basic judgments about things like fucking groceries,
like that's bad, And they honestly are like, I kind
of don't know. I don't know. It makes me feel
like I'm saving time. I'm like doing what did you
write a fucking book? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Like writing and watch the Huberman Lab to find out
more ways that I could save time.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Going out into sunlight cortisol right now exactly. And so
what's amazing is that when you actually have honest conversations
with them about like what are you doing like, look
at your life, look at your choices, you know, like
what are you doing? They're just like, I actually don't
know why I'm doing that, And now that I think
about it, like maybe it doesn't make that much sense.
(16:47):
They are like they're very quick to be aware, but
this is not good for them. I don't know that
they have models of how not to do it because
the rest of us who are not grown, to go
back to my old point, are not modeling for them
what it's like to actually make good decisions about taking
care of our mental well being in the face of
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these things. So I think like they're stuck between a
rock and a hard place, where they're sort of like
entering a society that's telling them like, you're never going
to get any of the things that you want. You're
not going to get a house, you're not going to
get more money, You're not gonna get all these things,
and so of course you would want to turn to
social media and chat, GPT whatever for little moments of
joy when the really big goals feel out of reach.
(17:32):
So they are. It's not so much that the kids
are not all right. It's like the it's what gob
or mate says, right, the holistic medical expert. Like, the
culture they're in is toxic, so they're trying to navigate
that and they're doing it in as best conditions as
they can. But I think what they're lacking the most,
truly like where they're really really at a disadvantage. They
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need more intergenerational exchange with smart, wise people like That
is why they need to go to school. That is
why they need to be in different kinds of social
programs where they have mentors who are older. They need
to be in conversation with people that have gone through
what they've gone through and said here's another path, right,
(18:16):
here would be another way, and we need to be
talking to them because they also have great ideas about
social media addiction.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I know they were the first ones who, like I
have younger cousins who were like, yeah, I've taken a
break from social media at a time when I was like,
oh what huh, They're like, oh, because it's an addictive exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh yeah, they.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Knew it before other people.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah. Why do you think that because to your point
about like needing those interactions, why do you think that's
lack of what's the difference in terms of like, because
I think back of my own career professionally, personally, I
had those intersections and interactions with people that helped fucking
change my thing. But what is the difference? Is it
just because it's everything is so less person to person
(19:02):
that that's going by the wayside, or just culturally for
them it's less of an interest to interact with older people.
And well, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's that's a great question. My premonition based on what
I see is that it has a lot to do
with the insolarity of digital worlds. So like what they
are on social media and in TikTok, they're interacting with
very limited demographics of viewership or people of their own
generation that like certain things, and combine that with an
(19:32):
amazing amount of social anxiety. Like most young people in
gen Z believe that the majority of their interactions with
adults are interactions where they are being judged on their performance,
Like the amount of work you guys, that I have
to do in a classroom to remind my students that
the grade that they're going to get at the end
really means nothing. Like the experience of meeting in a
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group once a week for two and a half hours
and talking about ideas will transform their cellular being. And
at the end, if you like put in the effort,
you will most likely get a good grade. But the
idea that like, they're concerned that if I don't give
them the grade they want that their life will be ruined.
Some of them have fucking suicidal ideation about grades. Unless
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you're gonna go get a medical degree or a PhD,
nobody cares what your grades are as an undergrad, Like,
you should be excited to do well because you want
to do well, because you're paying a lot of money
and you want to put in the effort, et cetera,
not because someone's judging you. So I think there is
this perception that adults exist to judge them, and they're
(20:37):
afraid of interacting with us and revealing stupidity, lack of knowledge,
lack of wisdom, et cetera. And I have to do
so much. I have to be a therapist basically, where
I tell my students, I am not here to be
judgmental towards you. I'm here to help you practice good judgment.
(20:57):
So sometimes I'm gonna say, hmm, do you really believe
that where did that idea come from?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
It doesn't mean I think less of you, It doesn't
mean I think that you're worthless. So there's so much
of a block towards talking to older people because of
a fear of being judged.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Yeah, that makes sense, Yeah, which is how social media
can operate the feel Yes, totally. All right, we're gonna
get back into just sort of pop cultural stuff, specifically
with regards to the right, trying to take some of
our comic books, some of our sci fi things. But
(21:34):
we do want to just talk touch on this Trump
press conference real quick, because he really let his unfit
for office flag fly.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, just continue to prove the haters right. So he
gave a press conference and by that he just went
up on stage with somewhat of a plan rhetorically, and
then after he got the first rehearsed sort of sentenced out,
he immediately went into Trump jazz and just started doing
some down improv baby. And the main point of this
pressure was to pump his own dick up about all
(22:05):
the accomplishments he's had one year into the second term.
And he starts off with a big pile of papers
he's holding that literally says accomplishments on it.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
The proof.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, to prove how much good has been done, because
he has a melted brain that could only work in
literal terms. Now, so this is like the let me
just play it. I'm gonna give a few moments where
you can see where this was headed and where it went.
So first, this is him just again starting off somewhat coherent,
being like, look, guys, I've done a lot in a year,
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and more than anybody, even though that's not true, but again,
that's what he's trying to sell to people.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Individual things.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
I could stand here and read it for a week
and we wouldn't be finished.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It's accomplishments.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Done by far in terms of military, in terms of
ending wars, in terms.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Of okay, so low energy. You can tell he's kind
of like ending.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He keeps like kind of closing his eyes.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
They keep telling me to say this stuff. Okay, so
I'll fucking say that part. Then it starts going off
the rails, like in this part, he begins to like
cast doubt on like the sincerity of protesters in Minnesota,
based on how well people were screaming shame at ICE
agents and they.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Paid, you know, when the wall was shot, and I
felt terribly about that.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
The wall was shot.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
I understand both sides of it. But when she was shot,
a woman that was screaming, shame, shame, shame, shame, right,
he said, so loud, like a professional opera singer. She
was so loud, it was so professional. She was Wow,
there was hurt, like, oh my heart's injured. She was
(23:53):
a professional. Just shame shame. She's screaming, shame shap I said,
that's not a normal per that's that's a professional.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, so professional, do with anything again, because everything's like
the outrage is not real because what's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Happening is people would disagree with me aren't real. They're
paid exactly, So then you can't you can't yell shame
like that will. By the way, that woman's voice was
quivering with rage, Yeah yeah, yeah, well, which because she
had just witnessed somebody her neighbor be murdered.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
By the way, the interpretation of this person's statement means nothing.
I mean, this is what I think we've arrived at,
where like whatever his statement about anything in the world is,
it doesn't really matter what his interpretation is. If you
live in a democracy, the people get to say what
they think and what they believe, and if mass groups
(24:46):
of people are saying, we don't like this. It doesn't
matter whether you thought one protester was fake or not.
It doesn't Well, yes, that's beside the point. So I mean,
that's what's so amazing is the amplifying of these minute
details that really are like missing the forest for the trees.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right. Then he goes on to talk about how the
binder clip that's holding all of his accomplishment papers together
pinched his singies. But you know what I don't I'm
a big boy and I don't cry is essentially what
he says.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Accomplishments And this is something I'm glad my finger wasn't
and that's so good.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
They could have done some damage.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
But you know what, I wouldn't have shown the pain.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I can't where have we arrived to?
Speaker 9 (25:29):
That was this?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Okay? But I wouldn't have showed the pain. Like when
I got my shots the other day, I didn't cry.
The doctor did give me a lollipop.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It was nice.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Then again, it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Was late year on it buzz late. You're a good
friend of mine, said very nice things about me.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Further down the drain, now he just starts meandering, rambling, Oh, well,
what happened.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
To Sleepy Joe? What happened to the sleepy Joe accusation?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, now he's making fun of his cancer or diagnosis.
Seems to be what Trump has been doing, and people
are like, Jesus, what the fuck? So this is him?
Now he says something about DC's safe, and now your
lover isn't going to be killed anymore. I don't love
her with your loved one, with your lover.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
That word coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Listen this part.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
He just lover's not going to be killed, and they know,
so he can act like a real lover.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And then what but you can be You.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Can walk right through the middle of the town and
DC is beautiful again too.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know, Wow, Amen, your lover is not going to
be killed anymore, and you can act like real lovers.
Then he does more racist shit. We don't, We've already
heard it some all these bad Minnesota He's like, Minnesota
actually won you lost that straight three times? So again
miss us with your fake reality, and then wraps the
(26:50):
whole thing up with an exasperated gesture at his pile
of papers aka accomplishments to be like I mean like,
well I think he at that point doesn't know what
to say anymore, but he knows he has this big
pile of papers to prove how much he's done, and
this is the most he can get out.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Here's the book, holds.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
It up, things we have.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
I'm gonna read a few of the samples, but look at.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This helps it for the microphone.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That each line is somebody who did that before, and
it did what to if we have.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
The hottest country in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Throws it up. So yeah, this was the beginning.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He gets big stuff too, of.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think everyone in Davos being like, oh, this guy's
about to pull up and talk call Greenland, Iceland.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
It is.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
There's stuff actually living on the pages, this big stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Each line and accomplishment give me a corner, Daddy.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Nobody's ever done that before, nobody's ever done what before written,
Nobody has been this out of sorts and president at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Uh so again, this is like, you know, think all
part of the slow, slow sort of percolating headlines or
I guess now because money is at stake, people are like,
I think this.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Guy's because president, because Wall Street has starting to feel
the pain, like suddenly there might be some consequences.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, h are tolerance for this level of insanity and incompetence,
like the incapacity to put together a sentence, like the
production of an entire political regime based on random gestures
and exclamatory statement, Like that's so wild to me, right,
(28:35):
because part of it is that he knows that the
content doesn't matter. It's a certain kind of performance of
your great grandfather at the head of the thanksgiving table
being like you just have to respect me because fuck off. Yeah,
And people are like, we know this is awful and
we hate this, but we will sit quietly and endure,
you know. And then there are people who are sort
(28:57):
of like I enjoy this because it means I don't
have to make sense if the if the most powerful
person on the planet does not need to make sense,
then the rest of us don't and you don't have
to explain ourselves. And I think there's a certain kind
of like almost like erotic fantasy around like yes, like
I could be this unhinged and I don't have to
(29:17):
explain myself to anyone, and like it's just it's that's wow.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, the like you were talking about the celebrity culture
is like part of it is us dreaming of being
better than other people by assuming and so in this case,
it's like people are getting out of this seeing him
go up there and just rambling coherently, and because they're
I guess insulated from the consequences, they're just like that
(29:46):
that makes me feel good.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's like, yeah, I think that's right. He's well, he's
like I think, really at this one, he's like the
peak sort of like manifestation of infallible white male power.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I was just going to say it is about failing
upward to infinity, but I really do.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
But I think for him to be a white like
you could only be a white man and be so
transparently out of sorts, so obviously senile, and no one
says anything about it, and people say yes, sir, yes, sir.
You're like, now, that's some shit.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
His continued existence in a position of power is the
ultimate statement of like, yes, the world done by white
supremacy to just be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
There are many ironies to this, and one of them
is is that people who claim to be as supporters
are obsessed with the American family and the nuclear family
and having kids, and the very reason that people are
not getting married and not having children and not wanting
to do all of that stuff is because that is
the dominant mode of the masculinity in this country, and
people are like there, you might celebrate that on TV.
(30:53):
In people's inner personal life, many of the people that
adore him would never want to sit at a dinner
table with him, find him absolutely insufferable. The charisma is
not innate to him. It is what you just said,
which is that it's appealing to watch someone be this
unhinged and to be like they still keep winning. Yeah,
(31:16):
like that's that's almost such a mind fuck to people
that that's the entertainment is to be like, oh my god.
And at what point do people collectively say, this is
now destroying our lives so much that we must put
a stop to it. And I think our tolerance in
this country has become almost infinite.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, well that is crazy. The limit is when it
affects my stock portfolio, right, really bad, apparently, because it
wasn't enough when like marginalized people were just tossed to
the side and being killed and kidnapped. Yeah, it's just
now because like aus again, everything with America, it's like
it has to fucking be right, in your face, smashing
this shit out of your face for the rest of
(31:53):
America to get it, because it's not enough when the
people in the margins have warn everybody about it. It's like, well,
I need to get hit by the train head off
before you tell me there. I'll believe you then that
a train was coming.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Well, and also, like, you know what mystifies me, you guys,
as somebody who studies American culture, like I studied the
period after World War Two, so like I study the
Cold War, so much of what's happening now has happened before. Yeah, McCarthyism,
the internment camps for Japanese people, like this. It's not
like all of this is totally new. There are new
versions of it that are more extreme, that are more
(32:27):
horrible than whatever. But what fascinates me is the inability
of Americans, left right and center to simply accept that
certain policies and ways of doing things are ineffective. One
could sit in a room with ten people who all
agree that immigration is a problem and needs to be addressed.
(32:47):
Is this particular way of doing it effective besides making
people miserable collectively? It's not, because it's not actually about
solving the problem of immigration. It's about creating a vibe.
It's about creating a vibe of constant threat and danger.
But so like, to me, the inability of people of
(33:08):
any political persuasion to just say I get what you're
trying to do, but I just don't think it works right,
like like like that is just so mind boggling to me.
It's so simple to just say this is a not
effective way of accomplishing something.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah. Unfortunately, like all these people, especially for people who
say that these ICE agents are correct and these raids
are necessary, they've used the term immigration to sort of
mask their just deeper desires for like a white Ethno state.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
The Minneapolis Police Department just came out and was like,
our off duty officers keep being targeted by ICE and
all of them have to be people of color. Course, Yeah,
they're just rolling up on off duty officers with guns
drawn and saying like, show us your papers, and they're like,
what papers?
Speaker 11 (33:58):
I live.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I've lived here my whole life exactly. And then yeah,
it's the chief of police that I wish I could
tell you that this was an isolated incident. If it
is happening to our officers pains me. To think about
how many of our community members have been.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Victims speaking of Overton police, Yeah, speaking of Overton windows
and the opportunity that presents gods, the cops, man, somebody's
being your pr team, Like we might be able to
kind of win hearts and minds back if we kind
of stand for something. And again, that's never gonna happen,
because that whole thing is rotten to the core.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
All right, let's take a quick break. We're gonna come back.
We're going tucks and pop culture. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And we're back. So January not typically known for its
hot new movie releases. In fact, I think it's usually
like the movie Graveyard is around now in February. So
color me shocked when I found out that the Chris
Pratt thriller Mercy is dropping today. I had no fucking
(35:06):
idea this was a movie until about thirty five minutes ago.
And now as we do a little bit of a
dive into it and the story that jam wrote for us,
we just watched the trailer for this movie, and let
me just I'll just give you the sort of like
the quick logley. Set in twenty twenty nine, Pratt plays
lapd officer Chris Raven Okay, his name is still Chris,
(35:27):
thank god, who was accused of murdering his wife. His
trial involves being strapped to an electric chair for ninety
minutes and arguing his case in front of an AI
judge played by Rebecca Ferguson. If he doesn't quote present
evidence that nudges the probability of guilt below ninety two
percent in the allotted time, he will be fucking electrocuted
to death. Executed, which sounds like sounds like it sounds
(35:52):
like a real boring I'm from what I saw on
the trailer. He's sitting in a chair the whole time.
But what is cool that we do find out is
in order to prove his innocence, he gets to search
all of the available data on Earth. Basically, it's like
every camera, every text message, fucking anything to prove his innocence.
But he is strapped to the chair, and he can
(36:15):
even phone friends like fucking who wants to be a millionaire?
Speaker 12 (36:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
He reaches out to his teenage daughter to proclaim his innocence,
to his AA sponsor and friend in search for answers,
and even to his police partner to help track down
The Real Murderer. A few critics have said these are
some of the helines quotes. It's early in the year,
but this Chris Pratton dud may just be the worst
movie of twenty twenty six. Another one, the Daily Beast,
the worst movie of twenty twenty six is here, and
(36:39):
it's only January. Here's the fun bit it was. It
was directed by timour Beck Mambatov, who is the guy
who produced that ice Cube War of the World's movie.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
On Amazon Oh Wow, which is another fucking movie about
a dude sitting in a fucking chair looking at.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Computer screens for an hour and a half. Like is
this this new thing?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
It's a new genre. It's man in room looking at
screens and it's man, man.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Do you guys remember this is a long time ago,
but there was a really short lived this is like
in the wake of maybe Who Wants to Be a
Millionaire or whatever, like crazy game show Chamber.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
I think there was a one called.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
Literally the Chair and like you sit in a chair
and I just remember, like and I think they ask
you questions and like but they're like they're doing such
a scary like so like they make it really hot.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And so it was the chair, yeah, and I just
remember there.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Was like I think one of the pictures, one of
the commercials for it was like they're like, what's your
biggest fear? And she's like alligators and then it's just
like an alligator like on a swing, is like swinging
towards this lady in a chair, and it's just like, okay,
well let's give be We made like the thirty rock
version movie of that game show into a reality.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I remember that was like at the peak absurdity of
the Fox game shows. Like I was like, yeah, yeah,
they did like Man versus Beast around that time too.
It's like how many little people would it take to
beat an elephant in a tug of war? And you're like, dude,
way more than what you casted. I'm sorry they got
wrecked immediately, or like other ones are like uh, they
(38:17):
had Kobayashi trying hot dogs as a bear classic, so
I love I remember him.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
I have like a saying bolt like righting against a
cheetah or like a zebra or something like that, Like yeah,
there's just like racing animals.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Was it also hosted by John McEnroe. If it wasn't
what a what a missed up for dude. I think, yeah,
n dude, Okay, look at this cli get mac and
Roe out of the boot. I remember there was one
where like because you're just getting distracted in this chair
asking being simple Ei. There there's like one clip I
remember seeing where the chair is vibrating so much that
I couldn't even think he's like the vibrations. They're like, sir,
(38:56):
how many stripes on an American? The chair? The vibrations? Vibrations?
A fucking game show?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Is this?
Speaker 11 (39:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Here, here's a clip I look at. That show is
actually called The City.
Speaker 8 (39:09):
It's back.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
He's got fifty six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's the chair.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
Red line right, it's gonna drop another five percent. And Doug,
if you redline now, you lose two hundred dollars a seconds.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
The vibrations. Okay, anyway, the show was absolutely dumb, But yeah,
you're glad.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
I'm so glad someone's clipping that they put it on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
People clip the fuck out of those. I was always like, dude,
you remember man Verse Beast like some of my friends
in high school and they're like what, and like, we
fucking watched it at my house, dude, we got together
to watch this ship. There are plenty of there's dude,
there are so many cups of the chair. Oh no,
this was ABC. I'm sorry, I'm sorry ABC. I didn't
even comes with a terrible Fox. But this was that
(40:00):
same era. Nothing mattered. I think this is like, was
this post nine to eleven? I think, yeah, this feels
very post nine to eleven anyways, right Cannon, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,
two thousand and two, yep, exactly. We had to put
our greatest minds into that. So anyway, this movie honestly
less interesting than even watching old clips of the game
(40:21):
show hosted by because for some reason this also this
movie is being released in three D and imax. Good
a fucking movie about a guy strapped to a chair
and be like, I read us and make the line
go down. What a fucking just an abomination, Well says,
(40:42):
this is a tax right off.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
You got to see it in theaters too, because then
you're also in a chair and so you're kind of
in the stadium. Yeah, yeah, you're kind of held hostage
by this situation.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And you might you might, you might die after night. Yeah,
advance sales, Look, it comes out today, so maybe things
could change, but just from today's looking at the advanced sales,
uh empty, Yeah, but you can see wherever you want
up and share prognosticators forecasters say what. It may not
(41:14):
even reach double digits at the box office.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
The sever lining of this awful movie is like, maybe
we finally reached peak Chris Pratt, peak Pratt praturation. Yeah yeah,
and we'll kind of get to move on.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, the prattissants may be over for the man who's
just been prattling along for so long. This is really funny, though.
Chris Pratt really took this seriously. He was during the
media fucking campaign for this, he was selling people he
almost went method for the role, and he's almost what
do you mean almost? He said quote I told the
director to lock me in the chair for real for
(41:51):
up to fifty minutes at a time. WHOA, So yeah, dude,
Jackie Chan, you may do your own stunts. Chris Pratt
does his own sitting, so hold that shits. This is
what he said how he asked the director to put
him in the chair for in the in the chair
for real quote. I thought this would help lend itself
to the performance and feelings of claustrophobia and being trapped.
I was sweating, so if my face itched, I couldn't
(42:14):
scratch it and I couldn't get up. I'm always eager
to try new things, to be challenged in different ways,
and maybe give audiences something they might not expect from me,
like sitting in a chair. So sitting in that chair,
you know they you know what they should be standing.
That's not all me, that's not all I do. I
contained my legs. Yeah, the bed is going to be compelling.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
They should have made the chair like a character of
and of itself, and the chair should have had like
a sort of like gruff, sort of like snarky attitude,
or the chair be like, hey, why don't I try?
Why don't I try sitting on your ass for a change,
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, come on, come on, chair. My guilt probability is
hovering right at ninety two point one percent. If we
can get a blow two tenths, we're ight of here.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
I don't know, buddy, What I know for sure is
you're guilty at stinking Come on a chair.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't go to your work if fart in your mouth. Okay,
I don't know, it's better than what we just saw.
To your point, Blake, we watched the trailer. It basically
sums up the whole film, which is how you know
it's bad. Also, they're like, look, dude, here it is
no surprises to check it out. Maybe I don't know.
(43:31):
I don't know. The other thing though, too, is that
Prad also said their role is quote a real departure
for me because he's quote a homicide detective in the
near future. Oh, that's definitely a departure because if I
don't know, if you noticed, Chris Pride is not a
homicide direct detective in the near future right now. So
(43:54):
range range range the other thing. And also the character
is called Chris. What the fuck?
Speaker 11 (44:00):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (44:00):
Then I think it doesn't have that much range. Yeah,
if you have a different first nahble have no idea.
If you're talking detective detective detective Chris, Chris, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
This fucking chair, I tell you, no, no, hold on,
hold on, I haven't even said action. You just start.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
That's not that's not the chair. You're just in your
green room.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's the chair a method. I told you, I tell
you so. The other thing, though, too, is the thing
about the AI judge like the movie could have maybe
said something about the rush to adopt AI or even
it's weird ass mischaracterization of like well, crime's out of control. Therefore,
we just need computers to do summary executions of people
(44:49):
like we've already have, like we've seen we've talked about
on the show, like dumb ass legal proceedings that have
used AI, or like people trying to use like AI,
like deep fake lawyers and shit. There's a lot you
could say here, but again, the fucking message apparently is
that like even though this thing's like I'm innocent and
you almost fucking killed me, the message is like pro
(45:12):
AI and like they're sort of like, hey man, human
and AI, we're pretty similar, huh, and that we both
are fucking dumb and useless.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
We're both bad at our jobs.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, yeah, and love chairs call it a push. Let's
call it a push. All right, great? Great, thanks, I'm Chris. Anyway,
so uh that gang, let me know if you even
if you maybe do a if you're theater hopping and
you happen to go in there or maybe it's too
scary because no one's in the theater, because that is
kind of an upsetting way to watch a movie. I'm not.
Every time I've been in a theater when it's like
(45:43):
a big theater and it's kind of empty, it's not.
I'm not one of those people's like I love it.
I'm a little bit like, what the fuck Yea, I
don't really want to fucking go like The fucking Leftovers
or some shit. One of the best shows ever with
Carrie Kon getting blasted through a bulletproof vest for funsies.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Anyway, all Right, that's gonna do it for this week's
weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show. If you like,
the show means the world demiles He needs your validation.
Speaker 9 (46:14):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk to you Monday. Bye.
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