Weekly Zeitgeist 425 (Best of 3/30/26-4/3/26)

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 432 (3/30/26-4/3/26)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
What is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are or what you into right now?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I looked through a couple of the more recent searches
on my Google, and I'll spare you the boring porn searches,
because once you've searched one, you've searched them all.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
What are they? I'm trying to know what you done with?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, underperforming college student begs professor for a better grade.
It's a huge surprise waiting under his desk. I searched
those exact words.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's called Yeah, I guess they're performing.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I like that he's academically challenged.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I that's part of the yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like,
oh man, especially with that he got that. He got
that like academic scholarship. If he sucks up, the money's
gonna go poof. So what's he gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
What's he gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
He's gotta get a good grade and one and his
professor is so cute. I mean, do you have the
dreamy air? And he's always wearing gray sweatpants during the lectures.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Somehow he's also the only student in this classroom today.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, you're my worst student, I gotta say, and
my only student. Sorry. So if it's not that, then
what were the searches?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
The lyrics I need six eggs from Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh what part is that? That's the dissing of baking scene.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's from like the number where Bella's like walking through
town and you're all of the people. It's so funny,
just this random ass lyric of this woman with several
kids and she is desperate, you know, she's just like, uh,
I know, everyone's like, ooh here look at this fountain. Oh,

(02:20):
we're having fun being merchants in the city, and she
just comes out strong.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's like, I need six eggs. Oh yeah, I'm looking
at the memo this. Yes, yo, she's like seven babies
in her home. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes correct. I
don't know why the thing is.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I laughed when I was going through my Google search
because I was like, why did I even look that up?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I can't remember there are so many people who talk
about this on like the internet who are like, what's
going on with this?

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Me?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I need sick? There's an egg challenge inspired by this?
What do you mean there's an egg challenge? I have
no idea. It looks like, oh no, this looks like
this is improv Yeah no, this is definitely on the
black Box stage and someone was just dressed as the
lady from that, and I think they were just doing
a bit rather than a legitimate earnest six eggs challenge
based off I.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Liked it at six eggs. She's like clearly in the
middle of recipe where she just she's six exactly six short.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I mean coming two three, you got the three babies,
and then it's like that's too expensive, right, It's like
the follow up right after that, it's like you do
kind of know the price of eggs probably, you know,
like day to day prices of eggs don't fluctuate in
the same style of volatility as like gas or stock stocks.

(03:41):
You know, like give or take, it's going to be
the same price. Yeah, yeah, Wow. Everybody's fucking with like
there's Lynn Manuel, Miranda dog mol I need six what
the fuck is or people post I didn't realize how
seminal I just I need six eggs is as just
like a thing from Beauty and the Beasts, So.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
It doesn't you would think that like, oh, okay, well
that's so random, it's got to be a plot point.
Maybe this plot point will come back later simply not yeah,
just like no, she needs six eggs, man.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Like post credits gratefully receiving the eggs.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
You know, yeah, I got closure six eggs. They're not
expensive after all. There are like I watch a lot
more musicals now with h with my kid who's three,
and like I'm just picking up on those like sort
of like weird odd lines too, Like there's one in
Moana where they're like we laugh and we weave our baskets,
and I'm like, what a weird like white gaze upon

(04:42):
like Pacific Islander culture, which and this is where they
laugh and weave their baskets and I'm like, we laugh,
we weave our baskets. How do we add more culture
to this song? How do I reach these kids? Please? Manuel, Miranda,
find something interesting? We laugh and we our baskets. I
need six eggs. Oh hell no, that guess too high?

(05:07):
What more Are you a musical theater diva?

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I'm sort of. We're just kind of more of a
general diva unfortunately, But I do, I've got I do.
I did some musical uh stuff at the Annoyance Theater
in Chicago, So I've done. I've done my fair share.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Of musical Actually, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Song you know, okay, Well, look we might have to
figure something out then, because you tell.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Me, tell me your second favorite musical well that you know.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
That's the thing is. I'm not huge into it as
a genre, but I do. I don't know if this
is corny or what.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I kind of like.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I like the songs from Jesus Christ Superstar.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Mmmm, there's a real there's a there's kind of a
weird passion set, you know, there's like a sweaty seventies
and this to them that.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I like, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
You know that kind of a little bit more like
what's that?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Did you catch it at the Bowl when Cynthia Revo
was Miss Jesus Christ?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Actually no, did you?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
No?

Speaker 7 (06:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well on both of you, I didn't. I didn't. I
didn't think ITTs are too expensive, and my magic eight
ball said don't go, So I didn't, which is my
true God.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
I was just talking to my trainer because I was
telling him the difference, like there's a difference between an
amusement park and a theme park, and I was telling
him what the difference is because I asked him. I
was like, what do you think is something that's overrated?
Because I was thinking. I was like, I don't know
what I think is necessarily overrated.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
I mean, I think there are a lot of.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
Things that are overrated, and I don't know that I
necessarily want to share publicly. But he said to me,
he was like, I think Disneyland is overrated. And I
was like why He's like, because I think that. I
was like, what's better to you? He was like Knoxbury
Farms And I said, well, Knoxbury is an amusement park.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
Disney is a theme park.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
And then I explained to him the difference and he
was like, you're so smart, and I was like, I wish.
I wish knowing that fact had anything to do with
me being smart.

Speaker 9 (07:04):
It's only.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yes I did.

Speaker 8 (07:08):
I was like, and if you don't know the difference,
you guys know the difference.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
Well, I also do deep dives and it also makes
people think that I'm smart, but yeah no, but also
Miles will be like, stop reading those subreddits because I'll
just be real in a thing, and.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm like, but also I need you to read them too,
so I don't have to read them.

Speaker 8 (07:27):
Would they say, yeah, yeah, I have banned myself from
Reddit because like, in terms of productivity, it will just
completely derail me really quickly. A theme park is when
rides have themes, such as like Disneyland, everything is based
off of Disney IP.

Speaker 9 (07:44):
Disney story characters of that sort.

Speaker 8 (07:47):
Character is exactly, whereas like a six Flags that's an
amusement park you're going to ride just like crazy roller coasters.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
What about Superman the ride? Does that count because they
have that and there was a Batman? I think that
they have far No, No, that's that Magic Mountain.

Speaker 8 (08:05):
I think that's that's like light theming, like you know,
your every single every single ride at Disney is themed
to a Disney to Disney I.

Speaker 10 (08:17):
P Anyway, I'm still dying over light theming.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
We use like merch like I'm them.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Okay, so I just to get back to the question
at hand, my search history again, this has nothing really
to do with like my interests but I did frantically
google search at like one o'clock in the morning last
night is lamar Odem dead? Because because I saw on

(08:53):
Netflix like a little icon that said the death and
Life of lamar Odom, And I relieve felt like I
had like quantum left into a different timeline, where like,
how did I miss that lamar Odein was dead?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (09:08):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (09:08):
And I was like whoa, Like did lamar Odein die?
And I was panicked.

Speaker 8 (09:13):
I was truly like where was I when when this happened?

Speaker 9 (09:17):
Like where were you?

Speaker 10 (09:18):
And lamar Odam died?

Speaker 9 (09:20):
But it turns out he's still alive.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
Yeah, okay, And I don't like that the Death and
Life of lamar They're playing tricks, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
What I mean? Yeah, don't put that, yeah, death.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
And life, sweetie, don't put the D word in the title,
Like now, you're it's.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Clickbait, not just someone yeah who's had drug problems and
overdose and stuff.

Speaker 10 (09:41):
You're like, he was in the news recently for like
being not well. You cannot just like throw around the
D word like that.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Do you think is it gonna probably get a ton
of attention because of the Kardashian Chloe Kardashian element of
it all, because I'm sure there's like that was kind
of like when it was really bad was when the
two of them were together. So I wonder if like
people also check because I've seen so many headlines come
out about like Chloe Kardashian her relationship to Lamar as
kind of like all the press around this, and I

(10:12):
wasn't sure how Kardashian coded the whole.

Speaker 9 (10:15):
People are definitely going.

Speaker 8 (10:17):
People are so curious about every component of their life
that I'm sure half of the people.

Speaker 9 (10:24):
Clicking on the death and life of Lamar.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
I like not to be a bitch, but he wasn't
that great of a basketball player.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, honestly got us. He got us a couple championships,
and I'm gonna be mad.

Speaker 10 (10:34):
At that he was there, But honestly, he did blow
it a bunch of times. Yeah, Eric Fisher, he was
a integirl.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
He was. He was inconsistent asal come on, yeah when
he no, but when he when he he did contribute.
But I do agree, yeah, he he could have gotten
it together a little bit.

Speaker 9 (10:52):
I couldn't play in the NBA, So anyone say.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That, don't sell yourself short Gretta. You know you do
all kinds of shit. You're a giant. I've seen you.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Dounk, why are you lying to everyone?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Boat?

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, just like tiny and feisty, buggsy boats.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
But anyway, that was I shouldn't say that. Lamar Od'm
probably probably great basketball player. I have no fucking idea,
you know, but I think but I think that people
are probably clicking on that more so out of curiosity
to his relationship with the Kardashian family, less so his career.

Speaker 9 (11:28):
As a basketball player.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, And I think everyone loves to see like a
human train wreck, and unfortunately he was providing a lot
of that kind of entertainment for people were like, WHOA,
what a mess?

Speaker 8 (11:38):
Well, speaking of human train wrecks and the Kardashian family,
you know, I was inundated a few two nights ago
with the Kanye West. I don't know if we can
Baltimore name him on this show, but his concert and
I was like, Oh, we're doing We're back here.

Speaker 9 (11:53):
I was doing this again.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, he's back, he's doing He's literally touring. He has
two shows a so far. I think it's did they
already happen? Yeah, I think are there too over two nights?

Speaker 9 (12:05):
I think because I think that, I think the other
one is tonight.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Right, Yeah, because he has a new He had a
new he dropped a new album.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
Last is he doing his new album which I have
not listened to.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
His new album is is Actually it's Hitler free this
time and free of weird songs, talking about his relationship
with his cousin. So this is like him trying to
get back to the old school, like chopped up sample Kanye,
the old Kanye.

Speaker 9 (12:30):
Are people going to see Kanye?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Like, that's what I people will go to see? Yeah,
I see the.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Kanye s is.

Speaker 10 (12:39):
Oh god, they got tattoos on on themselves. Still they're
getting new ones.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, there's there are easy, and there's are like good ass.
Sub is another one where it's why do I know
you know, to get me out of here? Get me
out of here? God, Colin, what's something you think is underrated?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
So I'm gonna I'm going to I'm going to give
two instead of giving a thing that's over it because
I like to spread the love, you know, I want
to be a positive.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Force from humanity today.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
So Number one video game Metal Gear Solid two Sons
of Liberty came out in two thousand and two. At
the time, it was like the most hated game of
the franchise, But I think history has really vindicated it.
So keep in mind it was like written in two
thousand and one, and this game goes on to criticize
like Proxy Wars, media consolidation, the overflow of like bad

(13:33):
information on the Internet that leads to the inability to
tell what's reliable and what's not. That AI is going
to step in and start making decisions for us, and
we're not going to be able to start distinguishing who
real people are from computers. It was it was like
really on the nose. So it's a very good game.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
You gotta go play. I remember it when it came out.
I was like no, because I was so, I was, so,
what it like the reboot? First?

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, on what grounds? Did people not like it?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
So you want to say one, no, no, go ahead,
go ahead? All right.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
So, so it's a sequel to the first game where
you play Solid Snake, Solid Snake the World's most Badass, uh,
And so in the in the second game, you start
off as Solid Snake and your you know, your your
World's most badest Superspy and then about an hour and
a half in they pulled the rug out from under
you and they tell you, actually, for this game, you're

(14:30):
not gonna play Solid Snake. You're gonna play a green
rookie who's on his first mission ever, who's a little
whiny and a little emotional, and he spends half the
game having a fight with his girlfriend on the phone.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
That's awesome.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Yeah, I mean, I get why people didn't like that,
but I just love when they're like, no, you're gonna
be punished, and I refuse to explain.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Why is there? Was there another Metal Gear coming out
yet or no?

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Probably with the Break did the re remake of Metal Free,
but I don't know if there's another new project in.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
The because like because what Phantom Pain is like the
latest right of.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Right, And that's the one where today Okam was taking
too long to make it, so they took it away
from him and then it got released unfinished, and yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Tragedy I had. I had a good time playing that one,
although I started growing a horn because I was being
really bad shrapnel. Yeah yeah, yeah, just grow literal because
like you can, like you can sort of you can
incapacitate your enemies and then like extract them to your
base or you can just off them. You know.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Is this what I sound like when I'm trying to explain, uh,
like little you know, and you grow a horn and you're.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Like, that's like a visual sort of texture that kind
of shows like, oh, this is your play style and
you're covered in blood.

Speaker 11 (15:56):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's also the other visual element to that, All right,
what's the thing you think is under other thing?

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Dropout dot TV, baby baby game change or play it
by year, smarty Pants, Dimension twenty, relatively yourself, crowd control control,
so true.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
So true.

Speaker 12 (16:15):
We see you, We see you Ji, we see we
and you know, we see Sam despite his his vertical
challenging uh nature of being relatively short, we still see
you Sam.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
The fact that they promised to not raise prices and
a significant chunk of their fan base was like please, though,
can we pay you more? And they had to add
an option to pay more in exchange for nothing, I
think is just a real testament to the fact that
they're doing business in a way no one else has before.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, profit share too for everybody like profit It's.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Really cool, Like I I feel like there's like everyone's
always like, well, what's the secret, You're like, they tell
you what this is every person treating people like people.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
It works.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's I mean, I think, guys, yeah, for that whole
evolution like from college humor to now drop out and
just seeing like how that just how that that audience
has evolved into something so gigantic to then yeah, Dimension
twenty selling out Madison Square Garden. It's no small feat,
I gotta say. And I think it's such a again,

(17:23):
like I think it's such a great uh you know,
testament to be like have your philosophical guns and stick
to them and like if you're actually centering humanity ends
up being a pretty good model. So yeah, I got it.
I'm also such an admirer of everything they do over there.
Big fan. Also, yeah, and Jamie, you know you've are

(17:44):
you have you done? Have you do anything else since crowding?

Speaker 7 (17:49):
I have done something I can't.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Actually yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, uh well yeah okay, it.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Was so much fun subscriptions like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I've always been like because I know, if you're the
people that drop out over there, and I'm always like, yeah,
we actually need to have more of them on. But
the fun ones are so busy because they're so fucking success.
Madison Square fucking like Brendan come on please, I'm like, okay,
you have seven hundred thousand things one. Yeah, that's fair,
that's fair. But if some piper show he can come

(18:24):
on here, come on? No, no, absolutely, I don't know.
It's not like, it's not shaite, nothing shady.

Speaker 12 (18:29):
You're starting a public yeah, yeah, with one of the
most liked people on the internet.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't know if y'all heard about this guy. He
just makes little shoes all day. Yeah, exactly, American girls, exactly, exactly.
All right, let's take a quick break and when we
come back, ieron right after this and we're back. So

(19:00):
on Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard arguments in Trump v. Barbara,
which sounds like some weird celebrity boxing match, but no,
it's the case where Trump was sued over his executive order,
where he was essentially an asking birthright citizenship is over
the four and teenth Amendment. Fuck it be gone to start.

(19:21):
Just from a ten thousand foot view, right, the fourteenth
Amendment is such a solidly agreed upon principle of the
Constitution that only racist inbreds that bumbled their way through
law school believe there's any kind of reasonable legal challenge
to it. But luckily Trump, he's got a group of
those people on his side. So they said, fuck it, man,

(19:43):
we've got one of the most accommodating Supreme courts ever.
Let's have a shot at it. And one of the
really funny things about this was like, this is again
such an like the last time someone tried to argue
against this was in the nineteenth centur Wow, and it be.
And it's kind of funny because it was pointed out

(20:03):
that Trump's legal team is recycling legal arguments from that
court challenge in eighteen ninety eight, from a case that
the racists lost. That was US v. Wokim Arc. And
there's a few other cases too that have been sort
of like Chinese. Yeah, it was of a person who

(20:26):
was born in the United States to Chinese parents, and
then they're like, no, no, no, like that that person's American.
Alexander Porter Moose this from the Washington Post quote a
Confederate officer during the Civil War and a Louisiana attorney
argued for legalized segregation in the Landmark eighteen ninety six
Supreme Court case that's Plus versus Ferguson that established the
separate but equal doctrine and buttress to Jim Crow laws.

(20:48):
The Trump administration has tapped Morse as an authority, and
it's pushed to upend long settled law that virtually everyone
born in the United States is a citizen. Over a
century ago, Morse was among a trio of thinkers who
spearheaded a failed effort Steepton, anti black, and anti Chinese
racism to erase birthright citizenship. The Trump administration is reviving
their arguments to make its case today. And yeah, that's

(21:12):
that's not going so well because you're like, all right,
what what what you want to use as a strategy.
How about this failed version of it?

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, run it back?

Speaker 13 (21:21):
How about this team that failed in every aspect of
their mission?

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Are there enough racists now? How about now? Maybe next year?
How about now?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Can we is now a good time?

Speaker 14 (21:31):
Can we vote again next year? Because maybe there'll be
three more. Yes, they're working out Hall of Fame racists.
You know, they're just going way back. It's like we
have to bring out the confession, right.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Get Andrew Jackson, get him on the phone and yeah,
I need the ghost of Andrew up here. But yeah,
Trump is just so obsessed with this one that he
you know, he took the unprecedented step to actually appear
in person at the Supreme Court for these ouraloges.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Just see if they could intimidate.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah, just to be like, I'm here, and you
know he was. I have to believe he was falling
asleep in there, Like I cannot believe that he could
go on there and stay awake for more than like
fifteen seconds.

Speaker 13 (22:11):
It's too cold in here. It's like, sir, it's eighty
four degrees.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, we turned it up for you because you keep
saying that's why you're falling asleep. Well, now that's too hot.
It's too hot like a hothouse flower in here. But
he's again like he's at the Supreme Court, mean mugging
the justices. Unfortunately, he left right after his former defense
attorney John Soer that this is the guy who, like
during the Biden administration, was like the president can do

(22:36):
anything he wants, including using Sealed Team six to kill
whoever he wants. Okay, that guy is now the solicitor
Solicitor General arguing in front of the Supreme Court, but
he kind of shited the bed once the justices asked
the most basic questions. This one was coming from Justice
Neil Gorsich, who if you've seen like he's had a

(22:58):
few surprise rulings, like he has a clear affinity for
like the Indigenous American people, like it comes up a lot,
and he's made decisions like informed just sort of about
his own perspective on that. So this is Justice Gorsic
asking what about Native Americans?

Speaker 15 (23:12):
Do you think Native Americans today are birthright citizens under
your test and of your friends test? I think so.
I mean, obviously've been granted citizenship.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Am I like? Never a more non committal answer according
to your test? That your standard you're trying to prove
in this argument. What do you think.

Speaker 15 (23:33):
Citizens under your test and of your friends test? I
think so.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
I mean obviously they've been granted citizenship my statue.

Speaker 15 (23:41):
Beside the statue, do you think they're birthright citizens? Now?

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I think the clear understanding that everybody agrees in the
congressional debates is that the children of tribal Indians are
not birthrights.

Speaker 15 (23:49):
I understand that's what they said. But your test is
the domicile of the parents, and that would be the test.
You'd have a supply today, right.

Speaker 16 (23:59):
Yes, yeah, so a tribal Indian for example, or you know,
it gives up allegiance.

Speaker 15 (24:03):
To born today birthright citizens I think so on our test, Yeah,
very lawfully domiciled here and then I have to think
that through.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
But I have to think that through in court right now.
So I didn't know.

Speaker 13 (24:19):
I didn't know he was about to speak in front
of the Supreme Court. This was kind of thrust upon
me last minute.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
The way he answered that question as if someone said, hey,
are you guys out of the jalapeno poppers? H? I
think so, let me actually let me check in the
kitchen really quickly. We might have another order left. I
don't know, really really basic ship here. A lot of
people like this specific question is a little bit more
complicated because like the Native Americans are given citizenship the

(24:46):
dogs acting like the twenties or whatever. But again, a
lot of people were just sort of took it as like,
what do you mean Native Americans or citizens that this
was more about the specifics of the definition of a
like birthright citizenship that's given to someone born because again,
you know, tribal land was considered, you know, sovereign territory.
But all that to say this is, this is this

(25:07):
is how shit's starting off. And again, from all the
court reporting that I've read so far, pretty most of
the justices are pretty skeptical because Sour is just coming
back with a lot like.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Umm, yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
This is actually not really the problem is like this
isn't a real legal argument. This is like a reactionary
racist thing right that isn't steeped in anything truly like legal.
It's just more like I don't like the idea.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
I want to I want to just come in front
of you and go if there is there just a
way that we can just cull out some of these
people I don't like. And I just oh, if I
have a fucking pillow and I could just roll over
it and no oh that no, no, it would be
a weapon.

Speaker 13 (25:52):
Oh okay, I know altercation. We know that there is
a scream. I don't have the screaming.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I've had a screaming pillow for decades. I'm done.

Speaker 13 (26:03):
I got another one, though, I used on Actually there's
no feathers in it.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
It's just a pillowcase with a loose feather in it.
But again, this is like it's a slippery slope for
for John Sour trying to argue all of this, because
really what they're getting at, like the dark side of
all this is that if the Supreme Court agrees with
what the Trump regime is arguing, that decision would instantly
create millions of stateless people and their labor could easily

(26:38):
be exploited without the protections of US citizenship. Because you know,
there's I don't again the effort put into deporting people,
Well what do you do? Because these people are stateless,
So it's not like another country is going to be like, oh, yeah,
well they're not even a citizen of our country. We
can't take them, Like where do they go? So I
think like in the more sort of heinous Heritage Foundation

(27:01):
Project twenty twenty five view of things is like, well,
now you have a whole workforce of people who can't
say no to like some subsistence wages or work or
work conditions. And that's I think the part that's like
really diabolical about all of this and what they're trying
to do. But as it stands the fact that they
they haven't thought past what the argument is rather than

(27:23):
we don't like round people or we don't like these people.
Is now just just fumbling in court. And I think
even with sour trying to give an answer on the
birthright citizens birthright citizenship question about Native Americans, he was
also trying to like not invalidate his own argument because
already it's like built on such flimsy logic. He's like,

(27:43):
h shit.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
I'm gonna have to think about that. I'm gonna have
to think about that. You really the next time you're
in front of the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
That's right, right? Right? I do over?

Speaker 15 (27:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay? Oh yeah, Justice Gorstage, I'm sorry, Justice, Chief Justice.
Can I get a do over?

Speaker 10 (27:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
That was really not fair. And I was asked such
an underhanded softball question like that. I couldn't yeah wrap
my head around it. Yeah, it's it's anyway they're trying. Luckily,
it doesn't seem to be going well. But I think
it's still terrifying the fact that they actually even bothered
to hear this, because.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
You hear what so tether Cox Richardson said that it's
watching an empire commit suicide, and essentially just the entire
purpose of this administration and these people is to create repercussions. Yeah, right, right,
that's so because I mean, and I know why Trump

(28:40):
wants to do it is because he wants to roll
the bodies, right, that's all he wants to do. He
just wants to roll the bodies. But the other people
are like with, while he's busy rolling the bodies, maybe
we'll get to kill a gajillion people. And it's insanity.

Speaker 13 (28:55):
It's yeah, yep, And it's the stoke fear to where
it's I mean, it's the main or it's like, okay,
so what even is a citizen at this point? You know,
it's like, oh, just because of my color, the color
of my skin is not I mean saying Trump's color
of a skin, No one has that just because it's
not white, Like what am I?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
What is my fan?

Speaker 13 (29:16):
Are my kid's citizens? Like it's just so scary that
at any moment your whole life, I mean, how already
true for so many?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
How far back are we going? Right? Because Trump's grandfather
comes from Germany, his mother's wife, his children, That's what
I'm saying, So like that's a double stan Yeah, but
that's what I'm It's so like they're like, what's like
I don't even think they thought, they're not even thinking
like that at all. No, it's like it's it's basically
because what they want to do is they just want
to shut the gates now or for maybe a certain

(29:47):
group at a certain point, but it's not going to
be for people like the.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Whities from South Africa gets men.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And there's also I was reading story, remember all those
white people he brought in from South Africa. A couple
of them have already gone back, right because because they say,
like this country's fucked up. There's gun violence everywhere. It's
like it's so it's so hard to like get a
like I just I prefer to be home. It's just
then the grass was not whiter. Sorry, unfortunately, So I

(30:15):
guess moving on to So the other thing that we
have is the polling that is so so low that
we've never seen anything like it, and like right now
it's hovering around thirty one percent and Fox News, I
think it's no coincidence or it's a total it's no
coincidence that Fox News starts trying to keep conservatives from

(30:35):
realizing how bad things are and that Trump is in
fact a human nine to eleven, and there's so many
things to think about, mid term blowouts, the war in Iran,
the lack of support for Americans being crushed by inflation.
And I got to just play this clip from Laura
Ingram Show on Tuesday, because like, the news is all bad,
Like there's record low support for these wars, there's record

(30:58):
low support for the president. It's it's like all bad.
And I think this is her effort to try to
be like, guys, it's fine, and we have to trust
this guy because he's actually really smart, and it's quite laughable.
But here's Laura Ingram now trying to get everybody in
line and not be so pessimistic.

Speaker 17 (31:14):
And know some conservatives are worried that we've gotten off track.
They're fretting about Iran. They wonder what happened to America. First,
social media is hyping conservative infighting, fears of a midterm wipeout,
So some of you may be thinking, what was it
all for. Look, I'm not underestimating your concerns. I share
some of them. Trump is taking some big risks, but

(31:38):
with big risks.

Speaker 11 (31:39):
Come great rewards.

Speaker 17 (31:41):
Eliminating the Iranian threat is a gift to future generations.

Speaker 11 (31:45):
But in the.

Speaker 17 (31:45):
Meantime, look, we'll see how it all works out. But
in the meantime, I'm choosing not to panic.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
The good she's choosing not to panic, And I think
this is where she's going to really lay the case
out for why we should really be okay. And this
is why you shouldn't panic. Because Donald Trump's the president.

Speaker 17 (32:04):
After all, no one on God's green Earth has a
better political sense than Donald Trump. He didn't become president
of the United States twice and come this far to
blow it all on a lark. So why not take
a deep breath, step back and reframe our thinking.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So this guy didn't come all this way and fuck
it all up on a lark. Reallyfly this.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, this guy has failed up every moment of his
breathing life. I have never seen anybody fail upwards, Like.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's all the way up to the big White House in.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
The sky, right, And I've seen a lot of guys
fail upward. I'm not gonna lie yet. I've seen a
lot of mediocrity rewarded.

Speaker 13 (32:50):
And uh so, thank you to Victor for continuing to
book me. By the way, I forget you gave us
this top story. Kind of appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, but Uh, yeah, I don't. It's it is telling
though that she's just like talking like her fellow horrible
whitey magoos off of ledges because oh you've noticed, you
know my because my dad is always like, gases in
California is like five bucks. It's like to twelve here.

(33:22):
And what my husband always says, yes, we have better gas.
You don't know this about us.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I guess it's amazing. And it's pay for the better gas.

Speaker 11 (33:31):
You pay for the better gas.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
We got the best gash.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
You want that two dollars gas, which you want six
dollars gas?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, we got.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
What it is is. I don't know if you've ever
been to Milwaukee, but what Milwaukee, Wisconsin could use is
some six dollars gas because what it pays for is
a bunch of asphalt that could fill in all of
the potholes. It'd be I don't know if you've driven
through the desert that is, trying to drive around Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
but there's you could get a sinkhole. There's it. I

(34:05):
was just there. It needs it needs. You don't need
a billion pounds of asshold and several dozen pickup trucks
and dudes with with spreading things.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've digressed.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
I've digressed from I did survive, but I have digressed
from this, uh, this monstrous woman who you know. I
have a pin on my bag that says elect women.
I would like another pin that says hashtag.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Not all women. Ye be true.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Women are people and uh and it's just we're all
just a stack of beat with uh in a sausage
casing and so with brains on top. And so just
because you know, every everybody could be an idiot, everybody
could be a monster.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
That everyone's right, you know. Unfortunately people have abused that
right all the way to the top, including uh, Transportation
Secretary Duffy and other unserious news. So he just announced
that he's going to be reviving his reality star career.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
I didn't know that. What was he in?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
He was he was in the real on the Real
World Boston nineteen ninety seven. He was part of the
Real World Boston. He was the mill Wisconsin cowboy guy.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Wait, he's from Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. His whole thing on the world, like
his whole character was like I'm a lumberjack from Wisconsin
and he was like a world champion, like Lumberjack Games
guy that was like thirty years ago. Yeah, Fish out
of Water sort of story, and the cast of the
Real World Boston.

Speaker 13 (35:38):
It's like, why why does every Trump appointee also have
like a side job, you know, like, like, what the
fuck is going on? None of these people were qualified
to do some of the most important jobs in the
entire world. You have fucking cash. You look at their resumes.
There's no qualifications, dude, there was no qualifications.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
This guy's from Hayward, Wisconsin, Okay, and he was doing lumberjacks,
doing log rolling, hopping up trees, cutting ship down like
his whole I.

Speaker 13 (36:04):
Remember transporting logs his opening, right, that's what makes him
qualified for Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I was
on Road Rules All Stars.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
If you do remember that does require you traveling in
a Winnebago. He loves spin Yeah, yeah exactly. Oh yeah.
So he's teaming up with Buna Murray Productions, the people
who fucking made the Real World and like you know,
for Jersey Shore all the huge MTV reality shows and

(36:36):
teaming up for them for a YouTube series. Quote in
celebration of America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, the online
show will feature the Cabinet official and his family touring
the US on an extended road trip. They have nine children.
Oh so this is gonna be Mike. Yeah, down, guy,
So I don't love you and you got nine people?

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Got a pick three, the wireless one, pick the best
three kids, pick your favorite three, pick your favorite three
the other game.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
There's gonna have to be boomed. You know, we're going
over there for your kids.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
She is she still live? Did she die in childbirth
like she was supposed to be? He was trying to
do for him.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Rachel Campos was also on the on road Rules to
begin with, and they met on the road Rules all stars.
So they are a Maga MTV couple made in hell,
which is really amazing.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Here's Social services man, get those kids. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
The five part series will be paid for by the
quote Great American road Trip, one of the nonprofits created
by the Trump administration to promote events tied to the
country's two hundred fiftieth anniversary celebrations.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
So also known as a Great Place to Launder some cash.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah exactly, I'm not out loud. Hey leave it right
there in that inbox right there. Yeah, perfect, perfect, it's safe.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
It's screwed to the wall.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, what's it for? Like a YouTube series or
some shit with the guy from the from Real World
back in ninety seven. I remember that one with Genesis.
I think she was in that cast too. But that's
that's the state of things. It's also just funny, like
thinking of all the people that have made the MTV
to Fox, like the MTV to Fox News pipeline, pipeline
because Kennedy is also a host on Fox News.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Okay, yeah, is there just like is it just like
reality TV? You don't reality TV in general is a
fucking nightmare? Yeah, just because it's there's no there's no script,
there's no All there is is some a d behind
the camera going are you upset yet? If you could

(38:52):
be more upset? I did last comic standing for three
days and I and I was twitchy because they wouldn't
stop asking me what if you lose?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
What if you lose?

Speaker 5 (39:02):
And the first thirty times they asked me, I said,
it turns out I still do stand up comedy. Just
gonna work the.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Road And I can't remember the bat is that season Jackie?

Speaker 5 (39:11):
The first season I think was Kathleen Madison, Madigan, Aunt
and Alonso. Oh no, the first year it was Gary Marshall.
Oh wow, it was Gary Marshall. And Gary Marshall said
to me and they never aired it, and I wish
I could get it. He said, you're very talented, and
I was like, could I put that on my on

(39:33):
my resume? Yeah, because I love Gary.

Speaker 13 (39:35):
Marsh just said that. Ant No, Gary Marshall.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
You idiot.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Aunt likes me too, so you know what I am
the Golden Retrievers, stand up comedy vers, universal.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Feel the other thing, I guess also THEO Vaughn too.
He also started on road rules.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
So right, and then he decided to do stand up
and grow mullet.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Well yeah, he decided to get a hair transplant.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
That turned Oh is that what? It didn't get there
because that's what the MTVS player who doesn't want to
run their fingers through a bunch of nuts and bolts. Yeah,
you know, here's what I've always thought about hair loss.
That is literally God's way of saying, you gotta go
the Look at head, let's get that hair out of
the way.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Let's see that's positive. That's good times. Look at that
that's round, that's good that's nice. Embrace it, Embrace it.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
I have a divot in the back of my head
where I had to go bold. There's like it looks
like someone took like an axe and cut in between
my two brains.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
What that's how your heads on your baby.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
When you Yeah, I guess so. I mean nobody actually
took my head went, that's what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I was soft Yeah right right? Where's that? Where's that fund?
What's that the what's it called the font? The fontelle? Yeah,
the fon to know the soft spot? We're getting there
and rip this thing in half like clams. Well done?
Yeahs oh fuck? Yeah? What's in that pearl?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Not just a brain in there? Again. I thought there'd
be something else this time.

Speaker 13 (41:12):
I'm over twenty Yeah, yeah, all right, I think I learned.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
All right, Yeah, I'll leave the hospital. Jesus Christ. They
just can't get a morg job anywhere.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
I thought it was. I thought it was lizards.

Speaker 13 (41:26):
No, yeah, I thought it was lizards.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
These have to be lizards creating. And then before you
take a break, I just jd Vance announced that he's
written a new book called Communion, all about his personal
journey with Catholicism, which is a bold choice from someone
who allegedly murdered the pope and a beef with yeah,
and also in a beef with Pope Leo now too,

(41:55):
because he's saying stuff constantly, was like, bro, if you're
just so you know, God doesn't are the prayers of
people at Star Wars, just so you know, ye uh huh.
And I get to say that because I'm the pope
from Chicago.

Speaker 13 (42:08):
He took a page out of Sweetwater's book and is
including one way for in each.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Book he's setting out.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Yeah, and he's also standing outside your house.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, right now, right now. Look, they're trying to like
market the book as sort of like a spiritual sequel
of Hillbilly Elegy, And when you look at the covers
of both books, you're like, okay, yeah, you're definitely like
trying to lean into the thing, because surely jd Vance
doesn't want to put his like repulsive facade on the
cover where people will probably just you know, vandalize every

(42:42):
cover or maybe throw a sticker on where he's like
blueberry face jd Vance that everyone loves it, says.

Speaker 18 (42:48):
Quote, picking up in some ways where Hillbilly Elegy left off.
Communion recounts how Vance's pursuit of material privileges ultimately let
him into a secular wilderness. Communion reveals how van It's
regained his faith and discusses his conversion to Catholicism and
how his faith guides his work in public life.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
But clearly written by Ai Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Just flattering, flattering, flattering and non sequitor.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, it's uh, I mean, obviously he's trying to before
you make your presidential run, you gotta have a book
come out or else how are people gonna know what
lies to believe about you? That's why you get to
write him yourself. Like, oh my god, I was so
I was balling so hard when I was working in
the tech world, and then I realized you can ball
so hard that you can fall so hard from God's grace,

(43:38):
you know, And that's that's what I realized. I don't
even know if he's a poet like that, but you know,
that's kind of what the angle that he's going to
be going ou yeah, but right now it's right now,
like even with conservatives of like who should run in
twenty twenty eight, So hopefully this book will help out
a bit. The one thing that could be interesting is
maybe if he talks about his belief in aliens, because

(44:02):
this is where he gets real Catholic with it.

Speaker 16 (44:04):
He's like, yeah, demons, it's not even fucking like, whoa,
it's not it's not the existence of other life forms
in a universe so vast we can't even comprehend its vastness.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
It's demons waiting for saw.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
I don't think there.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I don't think they are aliens. I think they're demons anyway.
But that's a longer discussion. Well, I can't let you
go without Yeah, that is a longer discussion.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
So what he's doing is he's demonizing other life. Yes,
he's literally Yeah, I saw hail Mary that little rock
guy rock. Yeah, that's a good guy. That's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
We're hanging. We're hanging later. You want to have beers
with that little rock that was That was an interview
with him with famous propagandist Benny Johnson, the one who
claimed famously about his uh. I don't know if you
remember when he said his house burned down in a
drug fire.

Speaker 11 (44:56):
My infant nearly died in a drug fire.

Speaker 13 (45:00):
For mass shootings, and everyone was like, that's actually my
ring tone. I'm like, when I have that potation.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
That's what that's. That's that Benny Johnson, the guy who
said might again.

Speaker 11 (45:11):
My infant nearly died in a dr after mass shootings.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Where in DC. This was around the time when Ice
was the siege of Washington, d C had begun, and
that's when he came out. He's like, guys, I know
this place is so fucked up. We need masked marauders
going around and violating everyone's right because.

Speaker 11 (45:31):
By infant nearly died in a drug fire after mass shootings.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
In a drug fire, after mass shootings all connected and
also for the record, fentanyl just apropos nothing.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yes, so it wasn't just him blazing up in the
in the garage with his infant next to him after
shooting the guns into.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
The Yeah, no, no he didn't. He didn't have like
a form of drug induced like like a crisis, and
he's like Yosemite sam it in his basement. This is
also he goes on to this JD. Vans club. He
kind of goes on to like talk about what he
even means with the aliens and what he thinks they are.

Speaker 19 (46:09):
Then has has understood that there are weird things out there,
and there are things that are very difficult to explain,
and I naturally go when I hear about sort of
extra natural phenomenon. That's where I go to, is the
Christian understanding that you know, there's a lot of good
out there, but there's also some evil out there, and
I think that one of the devil's great tricks is

(46:30):
to convince people we never existed.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
That's so cool, dude. You like to quote Kaiser from
Usual Suspects. Also fantastic awesome I ever seen the film.
I guess verbal, it would be verbal, and I don't think.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
That kays are so safe. I don't think that that
was his line. Yeah, yeah, exactly, like a Usual Suspects
as We're going to need a second source on that one.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, yeah, I heard He's like, I'm not going to
do that's from Usual Suspect because everything I say is
about Usual Suspects kind kind of my whole personality.

Speaker 13 (47:02):
It's the only movie I've ever seen like it that much,
the actors.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
I can't wait to see it on ice.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why I walk like that dragging my
foot because Kevin Spacey, one of the great actors. I
haven't seen anything else he's interchecked in on his career,
but that guy and people, Yeah, I really like the
way he is too. So yeah. Then the other thing
is there's also like Usha Vance, his wife just launched
a podcast for kids called Storytime with the Second Lady,

(47:31):
in which she and celebrity guests read books to children,
and in the second episode, Driver Danica Patrick reads the
timeless literary classic award winning classic Disney's Cars. Wow sitting
down with the kids, you know, because you don't want
to do one of those books that actually wins one
of those like awards for child literature, because they're probably

(47:52):
going to be more on the nose about being accepting.
Not cars isn't, but it's probably usual to be like,
and here's cars, and that's Lightning McQueen and his tire,
and then he met made her and then one okay.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
And they read the kids those are picture books? Is
it an audio podcast?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Look, that's a great note. There are some I mean,
there are technically words that are being read Jackie, to
be fair, but the pictures are doing ninety nine point
nine for something.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
So you're talking to a three year old. If you
could get your act together. Okay, hey, come over here,
put your AirPods back in.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Listen Danica Patrick. You remember she did that one Go
Daddy commercial in the Super Bowl. It was really popular. Right,
forget it. Try and get a kid to listen to
a podcast. All right, we're gonna take a break. We're
gonna come right back, and we're going to talk about
the new library or bribe collection plate as we know it.
Right into this and we're back. So, as I mentioned

(48:55):
up top, last week, we talked about the decision that
was made or the jury verdict against Meta and Google
that they were found quote negligent in the design and
operation of their platforms. The case was brought by a
young women who's addiction to their social media platforms quote
exacerbated her depression, anxiety, body dysmorphia, and you know, thoughts

(49:16):
of self harm. And you know, at the time, people
are like, oh yeah, I mean we've all seen the
different But there's like the Meta whistleblower who was like, no, no, no,
everybody at the company knows how bad this is. We
just have to ignore it because it's all about engagement
and revenue. So by oh no, no, we know it's bad,
Like we won't even let our own kids use this crap.

(49:37):
So on the surface, seems like a win, right, because
we're sort of in this era where it feels like corporations,
especially tech companies, like running roughshot over everything in our
rights included, So big tech company punished for profiting off
children suffering that I think that could work again. Shout
out to everybody who brought my attention to really like

(49:59):
the larger issue here. And also there's a great video
from Taylor Lorenz and Cat ten Barge from Smithfire News
for calling like just total bullshit, especially on how the
mainstream media was covering it, because the narrative was so misleading,
like if you the headlines were like whoa shoots decision
going against these social media companies. I fell for it,
hook line and sinker because I think.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
It was effective. I mean it's like, I think it's
partially because it benefits from everyone's like the general understanding.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
That that is true.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Yeah, and the desire to see literally anyone, any institution
care about it. So it's like, I don't know, I
fell for it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah. Yeah. I think Also we're such an in an
era where we're trying to find some green shoots of
hope emerging that feels like, Okay, we can fucking hold
onto this. Maybe this can turn into something. But again,
like I think off my Jamie were saying, it's like
now there's like we can't even believe there's ever fucking
good news anymore because it's like it's shroud in some

(51:00):
other things. So I also talked about how there was
a decision in New Mexico where Meta Facebook was you know,
they had to pay a fine like three hundred and
seventy five million for you know, not adequately protecting children. Well,
that case in New Mexico stemmed from an investigation into
child predators on Facebook that was called and I'm not joking,
Operation Metaphile, So yeah, exactly, yeah, huh. They take child

(51:25):
endangerment seriously because we're doing mad magazine puns. Okay, that's
how you know this is a real thing. And again
I'm not trying to offend Meta or Facebook, but their
reps were even pointing out that the sting operation was
pretty pretty more unethical to begin with and involved in
trapping people with real life pictures of actual children obtained

(51:46):
without their consent. But their defense against that to be like, well,
it was fine because those kids quote lived outside of
the United States Jesus Christ, which is such like an
American view of like, oh, American children, that's one thing.
And even then there's that that's not even and.

Speaker 7 (52:04):
There's a lot of asterisks about what we consider American.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, or children or children or children or life.

Speaker 9 (52:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It's like because we don't do anything with mass shootings,
but it's it's so selective it's fucking disorienting.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
The second that I started to like read the story,
You're like, oh, of course there's nothing to feel good about.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Of course this is like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Like we gotcha with other kids pictures. And it wasn't
because I you know, it wasn't because they like found
crimes or something. They were just like, we're doing it
to catch a prodator operation, and this is how it's
going to work. Related all this this.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
So this is here saying maybe that maybe I've fully
misunderstood something here, But I was reading about how Heritage
Foundation is actually one of the big groups pushing for
mandating teen accounts, you know, for on Instagram, Facebook, and
it's part of their like their forty year plan. The
same way as they started in the eighties. Their plans
to overturn row. They want to start with teen accounts,

(52:59):
and they want to start with banning porn, and that
that eventually leads to banning no cause, no fault, divorce,
and restricting women's ability to make decisions.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, I mean everything is just to take out any
like ability for people to have community over something or whatever,
especially with the Internet. I think they found that that's
like a huge thing because they're losing the propaganda wars.
I mean, like right, even like even broadly, like the US,
Like there was a thing Marco Rubio sent out to
all the embassies saying, like you need to begin engaging
locals who will amplify America's stories because like we have

(53:33):
to battle the disinformation that exists about America. And you're like, sir,
they're eating the dogs. Yeah, what do you mean? What
do you mean they're the only The only way out
of this is if you change some shit, like on
an actual, you know, policy level. It's not because you're
gonna get people doing selfie videos like at the fucking
mall at DC, like this is such a beautiful country,

(53:55):
Like no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Did you see that?

Speaker 6 (53:57):
Trump said the other day that communism doesn't work in theory,
but it does work in practice in China, No, pretty magnificently.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
There's so much stuff like, oh my god, every day
there's something it's funny too, like my appetite for like
whenever he says dumb stuff, it's it's fallen off really
hard in like the last two months. Like there's still
some stuff where he says some dumb shit, and other
times I'm like, this guy's just saying fucking crazy shit
all the time because he's needs. He shouldn't be anywhere

(54:30):
near anything like decision making. Only thing is you just
figure out how if you want large fries or a
large diet coke when you got a McDonald's, like do that.
Stay the fuck away from everything else. But so the
big outcomes with these trials, those two trials specifically, is
that they will ultimately benefit the same tech companies they
ostensibly punished, and also some of the worst people on

(54:51):
the planet. So, for one thing, in all of these cases,
the plaintiffs were pushing for online age verification to quote
better protect kids. And we've talked about how like online
age verification laws are like a disastrous and they also
just help giant companies like Google and Facebook because quote
they are the only entities with the resources to build

(55:13):
costly compliance systems and absorb potentially massive fines. So smaller platforms,
on the other hand, will simply be forced to shut
down because they can't comply with these new laws. And
this already happened in the UK, like with their Online
Safety Act. There was like just one specific example, like
a place called hamster Forum had to shut down because
it just didn't have the means to have all the

(55:35):
compliance systems in place, and they were merely the quote
home of all things hamsterry tough.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
And if we can't have a safe space with hamster Forum, when.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Do we have nothing?

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Well, it was the point of the internet if hamster
Forum can't thrive.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
For y'all, remember twenty years.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Ago when we were all kids growing up and we
were told like, never put your real information on the Internet,
like it is for your own personal safety. You have
to be anonymous. And then now's to go on fucking
hamster dot com.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
You gotta give them, you have to give them.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Your social Security number, three drops of blood to be
like cute hamster.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah uh, and you know and meta they love a
bit of age verification. There was a person on Reddit
who made headlines when they exposed Meta funneled quote over
two billion dollars through shadowy nonprofits to push age verification laws.
And they were doing this to shift responsibility to Apple
and Google's app stores rather than their own services. But again,

(56:39):
their goals don't seem that dissimilar from the plaintiffs and
like in pushing for these things. And if Facebook is
forced to include age verification, that just means that they'll
have access to even more fucking data. This is like
the again, we know, this is how they make their
money on being like right, not only do I how
would I idea who you are? I got your ID?

(57:01):
Now I got everything, baby, It's not even I'm not
even guessing anymore. I know this is you and this
is what you are doing because.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Andrew you're talking to, and who your network is and
everything you're buying.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
What you're buying, I can track all that, baby. And again,
a lot of these age verifications, like surveillance verification programs,
are run by other odious tech companies.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
This is where I truly broke, yeah, and you're like,
there is where I broke here enters you know.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
The twenty twenty six is current anti Christ obsessed tech
oligarch Peter Teal. He backs He's a there's a Teal
backed company called Persona Identity and provides that provides The
company was called extensive surveillance of users and a peers
designed to serve federal agencies. Like this has been used

(57:52):
like uh like this is like at a time when
Discord was potentially going to use it, and then they
were like, actually, maybe we won't be using person So
as now this has come to life, come to light.
And I think one of the even bigger, even bigger
concern is that the precedents set by these cases weakened.
Section two thirty of the Communications Decency Act of nineteen

(58:15):
ninety six that states, quote, with some exceptions, Internet companies
are not legally responsible for the content they host if
it was published there by someone else. So if I
go on YELP and I'm like, I got the worst
diarrhea from Taco Bell, Taco Bell and also Taco Bell,
you know I'd never get diarrhea from you, because we're tight.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Okay, been down Bell, I did different, happily, happily, I'll
be back.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
I'll be back.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
But I have to. That's my truth. Yeah, yeah, and
I get it. And hey, and that's the beauty of
the Internet. But again, if someone writes something like that
Taco Bell can't they can't suit Yelp because that was
the place that this claim was made. But the thing
that these last suits six words that made the Internet. Yeah, right,
the like the way these lawsuits were approached, they didn't

(59:09):
want to go they didn't want to attack section two
thirty directly. They began to sort of talk about the
addictive quote design. It's the design of the apps that
is actually flawed and needs to be reckoned with. And
this again allows them to sort of sidestep the like
sort of the the attacks on section two thirty and

(59:29):
again another pathway to censor content that quote unquote harms children.
And the judge in California bought the argument and ruled
that quote. Because the claims were about product design and
other non speech issues, section two thirty didn't apply. Uh okay,
I see so again non speech. Yeah, what kind of

(59:51):
content could be deemed harmful to minors? Well, if you
know section two thirty is you know, sort of capped
down to nothing. It's pretty clear when you look at
the people that are hurrahing it. It's it's all bad,
like Senator Marshall Blackburn, you know, the Alliance of a
Better Future, which includes again influential people from the Heritage Foundation,

(01:00:14):
the Foundation for American Remition, and the Family Policy Alliance,
all just anti LGBTQ, anti anything that's not cis hat
white Christian America. These are the people who are like,
this is great, this is great. You know, this is
exactly what we need. And a lot of people are like,
oh cool. There was even the National Center on Sexual

(01:00:34):
Exploitation and you're like, oh, okay, maybe they're they're also
haraying this. Well. They're the same anti port group that
used to be called Morality and Media and previously went
after Cosmopolitan magazine for being quote hyper sexualized. That's that's
their legacy. And so you know, if internet sites are

(01:00:54):
accountable to the government for spreading content that's harmful the
children that will no doubt include LGBTQ plus content and
anything else that doesn't fall in line with the state's agenda,
because then they'll be able to say that a place
where people are offering support to young kids who are,
you know, having questions about their own identity or gender expression.

(01:01:16):
They can say, oh this, someone is harming them this
in this venue, and again, these are all the screws
they start to tighten to sort of just take away
the ability for people to have community, to exchange ideas,
and to even support each other just in a general
like human to human way, because.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
When we've seen in Texas hllaries and policies like that
to actually take kids away from their families, right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, It's just it is.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
Truly staggering to me how many of these issues and
rollbacks of rights, whether they're effectively framed as a win
or not, like boils down to how the American government
is classifying a child worth protecting and what the value
of a child is. I mean, we were talking about

(01:02:05):
it earlier of like you know how whatever, who do
we consider a child?

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
A white cis child American?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, like to your point, it's it's
even doubly offensive because at the end, they don't give
a fuck about children at all. It's that's the that's
the rhetorical tactic they used to pull on people's heartstrings
to have them convinced that this is some kind of
a net positive for humanity, because if you gave a
fuck about kids, then what where the fucks that were?
Is gun control? That If you gave a about kids,

(01:02:34):
why are you raw rahing a genocide in Gaza? If
you gave a fuck about kids, why are you turning
a blind eye to all the Epstein ship that's going on?
Why are you trying to remove funding for school lunches? Yeah?
Just at every level.

Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
Right, like every major like policy and the same thing
with conversion therapy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah, like it is just like who do we like?

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
The line that we're doing it for the children isn't
even working for people who would normally fall for that,
I think, and which kind of made this story stand
out to me because I felt myself falling for it
because I wanted to believe that we were making a
decision that could positively impact children and we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, it's yeah, just looking at the last couple of years, right,
like the just exchange of ideas and information about Palestine,
about documenting ice thugs and where they're at and what
they're up to Epstein files. Stuff that's all possible because
of Section two thirty, Like and you can tell when
they look at that, they're like those are the kinds

(01:03:38):
of things that all these like the tech billionaires and
just you know, moneyed classes that have a vested interest
in sort of eliminating that kind of speech or that
kind of communication or those values. They're like, yeah, bro,
this is this feels like a very efficient way to
just get to the heart of the matter. Because before

(01:03:59):
we've talked about all the time, all like the counter
propaganda that has to be put out there to try
and get people to see things one way. But unfortunately,
when people are just sort of confronted with the humanity
of a situation, they tend to only move in one direction,
which is towards their humanity and be like, well, there's
fucking bad. There's no amount of like hot soldiers you
can show me doing like TikTok dance challenges that's going

(01:04:21):
to change my fucking view on that, although they will
try so anyway, very very important issue to be thinking
about because also Marsha Blackburn just introduced a Trump America
ai Act, and inside this two hundred and ninety one
page document they tucked away a repeal of section two
thirty in there. So, yeah, these are all things that

(01:04:43):
you know, just got to have another thing to throw
on the list of existential threats to our Maybe the
other one one relevant thing to play there is, you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Know section two thirty is it's an American law, but
a lot of American law about the Internet effects the
broader global internet, right and internet like shit like the
Arab Spring happened because Section two thirty protected speech like
that on Twitter. And so when you think about organizing
against authoritarian fascist regimes here or overseas, when these platforms

(01:05:13):
have an excuse to start or mandates to start taking
down speech like that, it's pretty easy to imagine that
spiraling out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, and then we're all going to be talking in
weird code words. What would be the next evolution of
our double Yeah? Yeah, I love everything that is happening
right now. Oh shit, you said that. I know what
that really means.

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