January 27, 2026 • 58 mins
In episode 1995, Jack and Miles are joined by showrunner, writer, and host of The Secret Adventures of Black People and Our Ancestors Were Messy, Nichole Hill, to discuss… Democrats Going To Actually Do Something? Republicans Aren’t Gonna Do Sh*t, Backpedaling... Regular Pedaling.... Pedaling BS... It’s All Happening, Melania Premiere Brings Out The Stars Boot-Licking Has-Beens and more!
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- Here Are All the Democrats Who Voted to Keep Funding ICE
- Senate Democrats threaten to block DHS funding bill after another person killed in Minneapolis
- Senate Democrats plot strategy as DHS standoff deepens heading into shutdown week
- The Democrats’ Long-Awaited Spine
- GOP fractures grow as Minnesota shootings erode immigration crackdown support
- FOX & FRIENDS: Do the actions of Alex Pretti amount to domestic terrorism?
- Napolitano: "That's called murder..."
- Inside the White House Screening for Amazon’s ‘Melania’ Doc (Exclusive Photos)
- Billionaire CEOs Party With Trump and Melania After His Goons Kill Nurse
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The call.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm gonna need a lot more yelling here.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I told you I was trying in the beginning a
dollar or something.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, since you're Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I don't know if I've ever eveen. Well, of course
I've yelled before, but I'm like, when's the last time.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Wow, that's great.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm not a yeller.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're so chill that you gotta goh god, when was
the last time I raised my voice?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, I get like really calm, like a witch. People
say it's worse you get angry, Yeah, because it's just
it feels like everything's clear now.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's like hmm oh right, right, right, right, oh right,
it's like that.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Damn, you get clearer when you're angry. I do think
it's so dumb. I'm just like, I better not say
anything because it's going to be so stupid and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
To be crying because I don't know how to manage
my emotions to this. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, you do a lot of stopping and you know,
folding my arms and getting in the corner, staring at
the corner.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't want rich, you don't want dinner, Okay, okay,
I made your favorite spaghetti. I don't like spaghetti.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, you don't like spaghetti anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No more for us, give me the spaghetti.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, spaghetti right, that's mine. Hello the Internet, and welcome
to Season four, twenty three, Episode two of Dirt Thy Guys,
the production by Heart Rady. We told our guests we
don't yell on this show, and that's true. Realizing incorrect
(01:44):
right off.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The best screams from the beginning, Bye bye bye.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also
have a new weekly history version of the show dropping
each Monday morning, where we do a deep dive into
the history of a different icon. We just dropped Marilyn
Monroe Yesterday Yesterday Morning with Blair Sak.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Very very fun episode. Go check that out. The episodes
have icon in the title.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
It is Tuesday, January twenty seventh, twenty twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, the twenty seventh real all kinds of things
to commemorate this day. Very apt considering everything that's happening
in the world. It's in Vietnam Peace Day, remember that
war of global and American imperialism. Also National Chocolate Cake Day. Okay,
thank you all. Praise be to the chocolate cake and
(02:44):
also National Holocaust Rememberance Day. So there's a lot to
remember today as we as we moved through an unprecedented
well not.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Unprecedented as America.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, yes, Like I said in yesterday's show, it's more
that this date has determined that eligibility requirements for for
being brutalized have now been expanded to more people than previous.
Uh so come on in.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I guess now for Vietnam p do they recognize the
historical piece or the one where Rainbow two goes back
and wins?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
This is about.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
This is for rememorates the release of two. Yeah, do
we get to win this time?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That it's commemorating that day. Yeah, yeah, one, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host cool,
my co host who mister Miles ground.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Wow you did a you did like a little pump
fake with that, you said, co hot.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I peaked a little bit on the audio.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh oh okay, sorry I didn't. I didn't know if
my damn was co host. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I just couldn't get over the my co hosts switch it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Up to this guy outside I'm looking at Yes, it's
Miles Great, the Lord of Lake. The show going with
no gun. Great to be here with everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Great to be here with a few Miles. We're thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by award winning
audio showrunner and creator of the podcast The Secret Adventures
of Black People. Last year, she launched a show called
Our Ancestors Were Messy, about the gossip, scandals, and pop
culture that made headlines in historical black newspapers across America.
(04:24):
Welcome to the show. It's Nicole.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I should yell. I can't yell.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
No, no, don't don't. I don't have to yell.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I feel I have to.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
We are comping, We are compensafing. Welcome show. God had
something interesting to say, so instead I just yell you
could just.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Turn me up later. Hello. How are you?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Audio was really blown out, trying to make it seem
like she was yelling, how are you, Nicole? How are you?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well. How are you?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know, as you said up Tom, precedented times in
the country, you know. But I think that, like I
was saying before, being black and Japanese. I've heard multiple
versions of this growing up, like I'm sure you have
of sort of like, let's not get it fucked up
about what this country is that you live in, and
(05:21):
I think this is I think this is. This is
Right now, it feels like a lot more people are
now becoming a little bit more in tune with that
idea that it that nobody is actually safe unless everybody
is safe. A lesson being learned a little late, but
you know what, better late than ever. And I hope
that I hope that sort of those kinds of realizations
help people get through this very very very fucked up
(05:43):
time because it's not going to be easy.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's not going to be It's a lesson we learn
every decade, two decades and forget then we learned then
forget that is this is the cycle we're trapped in, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But I'm glad that we're in the remembering part of it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, exactly exactly, because it's the it's like in the
twenty twenty three, twenty four's of our of our cycles
when you're like and people are like and everything and
we're good again. We're good again. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
what the hell are you talking about? Don't like, well,
Nancy Pelosi had a can't take cloth on.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I thought we were good with Falt's.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
She's so old. Did you see how she took that
knee that could have killed her? But she did it
for us? And look at them. I'll just and still
I think that's the thing too. We find ourselfs like
similar similar in how what twenty twenty did for people
understanding police brutality. Now we're sort of broadening it to
state sanctioned violence, our stupid ethno nationalist, white supremacist immigration policies.
(06:41):
But it's like you're at that crossroad again where people
go this shit has to end full stop. This is bullshit,
this is nonsense. It doesn't work, it's not helping, it's
only harming. And then, just like in twenty twenty, people
like agreed, the cops.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Are wild n out but right but right now not
all ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And right now it's like ice is why went out?
But we might be able to just say no, no, no, no,
what if they weren't wearing masks? Would you feel better
about this then?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
But yeah, anyway, most consistent American value with state sponsored
white supremaciy supremacist violence and.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Then the calls for more training than the calls room.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, if we believe in two things, state sponsored white
supremacist viny.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And how do we solve it?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
T Yeah, the person who like shows up in the
office like Hi, Yeah, exactly, sexual harassment, this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Person, this person is talk.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
This guy's wearing a clan outfit. Well, he came from that.
He's from the consulting company who's giving everybody all the
different brands interesting ideas. Nicole.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
We're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
stories we're talking about today. We're going to talk about
the Democrats acting like they're actually going to do something.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, yeah, we're.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Going to see you know, OK, what is it, Miles
we're going to talk about and I don't tell.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A lot about it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, No, they might withhold the Democrats and the Senate.
The House Democrats already voted the Trumps average from one
point two billion trillion government funding package through, but the
Senate might might be public brakes on that. So we'll
see talk about who voted for it pretty recently and
(08:30):
how that all came together. We'll talk about what the
Republican The Republicans seem to be having a real crisis
of consciousness slash pr around this where the ones who
aren't going for re elections seem to be like, wait
a second, this, this seems bad. But well, we'll talk
about that, and of course we're going to talk about
(08:51):
the big movie premiere that happened over the weekend. Milania
premiered at the White House, famous movie theater, the White House,
Yeah yeah, and was attended by you know, brought out
all the.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Boot licking has been Yeah, yeah, all of them.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
It's kind of unimpressive array of the most dimly glittering stars.
All that, plenty more. But fir Nicole, we do like
to ask our guest, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Who I am?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I think, Well, I mean, I'm really just hunting down
the tour for Bad Buddy. I'm trying to go see
him in some other country. I want to give this
man my money. Yeah, I want to dance to his
music with a sea of other people. Can I speak Spanish?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It doesn't matter, but you know it's about yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
At that point, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Just a vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh my god, he's so much fun, so that I
think that that's probably.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And you agree with us, So it sounds like you
agree with us that he should speak English, right, because
he's gonna be my super Bowl halftime.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Not my super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Did you see Trump? He's like, I'm not going because
it's too far away. Damn, this fool just went to Switzerland. Okay,
where's the super Bowl at this year? San Francisco. Oh
that's why. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't want to be in
California with all this ship going on, and he doesn't
want to be reminded that people in physical space fucking
(10:27):
hate him because every time everyone, yeah, it was like boom.
And he's like.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
In Washington where like half the crowd is on his payroll.
Yeah right, you know, like they're all government employees.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Fuck you.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yes, exactly. I used to live in d C.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And it was I mean, it's just everywhere you go.
I was just back there a few weeks ago. I
mean all you see are signs of how much people
hate him in new and creative ways.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's fantastic. And that's also my favorite
part about being in bars in d C. The graffiti
in the in the men's so much, so many great
pro democracy specifically, I feel like I read the wildest
anti Trump graffiti in like a DC bathroom.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I've never been in there, the ones.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well look I nightmare in there. Yeah.
Everything everything's wet.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Bathrooms, everything just it's like cold cuts in there. Why
is everything wet? Why does it need to be sorry
about it? Don't worry about uniformly wet.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's like it's like this liquid is purple on the ground,
Like what the fuck? Don't don't don't ask too many
questions about that. I will say.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
There's a lot of Melania signs around Los Angeles, and
I gotta I gotta say the for for her.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Documentary, fucking those up. Yeah that I've seen the bust,
like the bus stop ads. It would be like Milania
is uh and then put your favorite words underneath that
or stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah. Yeah, what is Nicole something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think that, well this is very specific, but the
Manhattan Beach Public Library in La Oh, it's so gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's so beautiful. It's right by the water.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You've got like these incredible views, very very calming. I mean,
public libraries are like pretty great, and a lot of
them in the last few years have been going through
all these renovations in major cities. It's just as feels
like being in a little time capsule being in them.
So all public libraries that that one specifically.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wait, was that one like so nice? You felt like
you're like, is this a public library?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I was like this, it's so gorgeous in here. This
makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I almost I saw like someone was posting how a
library was selling their card catalog because like they were
they were liquidating like everything inside, and like all these
like bibliophiles are like where is it? I wanted because
part of you like just seeing that bulky ass card
(13:14):
catalog cabinet with the fucking brass handles and ship and
the little screws that kept all the cards in. Like
I looked at it and go, I can smell it.
I know I already forgot how to use the Dewey
decimal system, but I will fucking remember. But there's just
something I don't know for whatever, that that visual of
a like now obsolete card catalog thing. For that was
one of the first times I understood like when boomers
(13:36):
like and this is my collection? Are record players whatever?
And I'm like, yeah, whatever, bro Then I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Like, the Dowey decimal system theystem. Where else do we
use it? Everywhere? I'm sure? But like if you say
Dewey decimal system card.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Catalog, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were doing. What a win
for Dewey. By the way, wind.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Happy amazing branding for that guy.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I so go to the public library and I do
have trouble with the Dewey decimal system. Like I wanted
to be like, yeah, that's one of those skills they
told us we were gonna need and we didn't actually need.
Turns out I need it and I suck at it.
My way of dealing with the Dewey decimal system is
(14:22):
asking the library and hey, can you help me find
about Legos my some really one book about Legos? Oh
oh you guys again. Yeah, it's in the same place
that it wasn't learn I'm just.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Numbered and what all this has happened? I go, man,
let me learn more about Melville Dewey, the creator of
the Dewey decimal system, and then I this is the
ship you go Like Wikipedia, I'm always scanning for is
there a controversy section. Yes, there is sexual harassment, anti semitism,
and racism. Dewey. The Lake Placid Club banned Jews, blacks,
and others from membership, a policy written by Dewey himself.
(15:03):
Do we know why you do to us like that?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Damn, we can't have anything nice, not even one nice thing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I just fuck it. It's the catalog. I don't need
the decimal system. I don't need I don't need to
recognize the system of organization, but merely the tangible cabinet
that remains there.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It is there. It is the decimal system. That's what
we call it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I feel like it's all like you can see that
it was typed in a typewriter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's smudge ink, smudges.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And yeah, dude, there's many pencils. They still got many
pencils at the library. They got many pencils.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Oh yeah, but they're like less, they're not like as
around and as available.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
They're not trying to encourage the use of them.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm not getting golf courses.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Many golf courses would take minolize the whole market.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, you hate, you hate to see it? What is
something that coles do you think is overrated?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Visuals? Visuals for everything?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I just feel like very Beyonce in that way, exhausted
a visuals it's.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The latest what's the latest visual that brought you here
that you're like, okay, what the visuals?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What was it? I don't I don't even I can't
even think of it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I just feel like I opened my phone and then
it's just so much stuff to look at. I don't know,
and you know what it is, Probably I follow so
many fashion accounts me okay, and it's just everyone opened
my phone. There's just some new outfit that you're meant
to buy. It's crazier than the last one. It's more
(16:34):
expensive but less material like it because it's dressing is
so in Like if we all just like turn this
off and.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Just wore whatever we want. Yeah, yeah, I feel like yeah,
visuals like it's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm always concern Like I saw something where there was
a jacket and a vest that was similar to the jacket.
It was a down jacket and a down vest and
the vest was only twenty dollars less than the jacket,
and I'm like, so those sleeves only cost ten bucks apiece.
Like whenever I see pricing like that, like especially with
(17:10):
the amount of fabric, I'm like, come the fuck on,
but again, this is a baby. Yeah, of course, of
course that that of course that overrated. Spoken like an
award winning audio show runner. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I don't know if you've heard. My podcasts are pivoting
to video and we'll get on board, come on.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Even more visuals.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
My nine year old this weekend was like, I want
to watch the podcast, and we were. He was talking
about an audio only pot like a podcast that we've
never watched before. But I think I think it's just
you know, you let you listen to it and then
something's happening in your imagination. A much happier when they're
listening to something than when they're trying to watch something.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's your kids watch how it's made, how it's made.
No him that like it was like a Canadian show
he used to be on the Science Channel would literally
be like, this is how they make a fucking van
and it's just like in the factory line and it's
just all process. Wow, bro, I got my kid on that.
He's fucking He's like, what the fuck they're making a van.
(18:15):
I'm like, yes, look at that. He's like the tires.
I'm like the tires. Yes, look they do it all.
And I just remember I had like the same feeling
when I was like I think a stoner in college
and that show first came out. I'm like, bro, how
they make donuts?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Dude? At scale? Dont those are amazing?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's kind of wild when I when you go get
your nails done or where I get my nails done,
they put those videos. I feel like they are everywhere.
They're just like a person making a cake and then
you just like hypnotize. It's like, wow, what goes into
making a cake? I'll never know because I'm not bacon,
But so it is kind of mesmerizing to learn how
something is made.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean because that's like a lot
of people say that about like a lot of videos
on social media that do really well. Will just like
to see other people work and make stuff and do
shit like you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah yeah, I mean maybe it's maybe it's from an
era before capitalism when people were just like oh yeah,
making things that's handy.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, together. We were all just like doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I love it all.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right, let's take a quick break. You can check out
some non visual ads. We're going to come back to
give you a non visual recap of some news stories
that are happening. Won't be right back, and we're back
(19:48):
and following the murder of Alex pretty over the weekend,
the Democrats are seemingly trying to prove that they're not
completely spineless and incompetent. It's a low bar, but there.
You know, they even dropped a fuckword on the social
media's calling Stephen Miller a fucking liar with blood on
(20:08):
your hands.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Whoa, whoa. Someone at the DNC rolled their sleeves up
for that tweet. Wow, they said, you're a fucking liar
with blood in your hands. Becau. Stephen Miller described the
interaction with prettiest quote would be assassin tried to murder
federal law enforcement. In the official Democrat account sides with
the terrors. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
But readers added context to Stephen Miller's thing, also saying
videos of the encounter shows that the gunman, of.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Course, never drawn. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Seven House Democrats just voted to pass the Trump administration's
one point two trillion government funding package that includes sixty
four billion dollars more for the Government of Homeland Security
or for the Department of Homeland Security, and ten billion
dollars more for ICE. So they kind of have blood
on their hands too.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, yeah, only a couple. It's funny because after it's while,
after that vote happened, Alex Pretti's killed, and then you
had some some of these Democrats being like, what happened
is unacceptable, and people are like, excuse me, you just
fucking signed off on money for them, and then like
I think I want them to be trained.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
As of right now, the only person I've seen who's
actually like owned up to the fact that they fucking
voted to fund ICE as Tom Swosey from New York.
He said, quote, I hear the anger from many of
my constituents, and I take responsibility for that. I have
long been critical of ICE's unlawful behavior, and I must
do a better job demonstrating that. How do you how
(21:42):
do you add your critical advice? How do you have
a voting for that? Well, I'll do a better job
demonstrating that. So, like, if I vote for it. Then
I'll explain why ice bad.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I will say fuck on social media, yeah right there
for God and my mother to see.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, it's really I mean, it's just like this is
the kind of thing too when because because Maga and
the Republican Party is so clear on where it stands
that it's it's such a double edged sword for Democrats
because it allows them to lean into their worst habit
even harder, which is to do nothing and merely gesture
at the Republicans and be like, well, we're not that bad, right,
(22:20):
But at the same time, you'd hope that the other
the way the blade cuts. The other way is that
you can actually lean into the like actual moral outrage
that is being experienced by many people and tap into
something and maybe do something different brings something like change,
rather than like, hey, next time, I'll do a better
job on demonstrating might like yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Like I feel like I would love for them to
save some of that smoke for Democrats who vote for
shit like this rather than like, because you know, Steven
Miller is already like obviously lying like that. I mean,
that's fine, but like I want to see that same
shit from you know, mainstream Democrats point out that the
people who like a lot of people were talking this
(23:02):
weekend about the rotating villain theory where they like have
people whose turn it is to go ahead and vote
for the evil thing, and like it's a way to
I guess, spread it out so that nobody gets like
all the tainting like coming to them. But like, at
the same time, that also just feels like when you
(23:25):
enter a criminal organization and they're like, you're gonna have
to kill someone to like prove that you're cool, do
this line in front of us, you know, like they're
just making sure that everybody's like in line and willing
to vote for the bad thing to prove that they're
a Democrat, which I just I don't know. It feels
(23:46):
like getting organized around spinelessness is not what we need
from them.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
No, No, especially when you've seen a group like capitulate
the way they have just over the last year. Many
times when they had or working towards having some kind
of meaningful leverage to get the administration to do something different,
they're like, yeah, I don't even know I fucking shut down.
It's fucking ended. I don't know who cares.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh, the shutdown was so hard.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It was like they had everybody, the momentum behind them,
everybody backing them. It just feels a lot of times
like they have not fully come to terms with the
fact that we are in something very dark and very
dangerous and very different than whatever they experienced in the sixties, seventies, eighties,
ninety I mean, this is totally different.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But suffunch with those guys.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah actually right, like he doesn't mean it, He's not
gonna they would never, you know, do it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's like, yeah, they mean it, Yeah they do it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They're doing to stop yeahah yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
So that's all context for Chuck Schumer coming through taking
to social media to call for Ice to leave Minnesota.
He did use some capital letters. Yeah, Ice out of Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Now, so okay, man waves fist at cloud. How do
you but you actually you might? So what are you
going to do? What's everybody going to do? Because that's
what started I used the all caps on now okay. No,
I meant like legislatively, like using the powers that are
available to you as like a sitting senator of the
United States, is.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
That it's actually not my turn to do the difficult thing.
We actually have a rotating group of people who do
difficult things. So we're we're going to talk about it. Well,
we're taking it under advisement.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
There's another there's actually another congress person who is doing
like a light maya culpa because they're like, why would
you vote for this bill? Why? Why?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Why?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is a representative Gonzales from Texas, he said, this
is Vicenta Gonzalez. He said, well, let me make it clear.
My vote was not to fund ICE. But what I
was voting for was to ensure that our agencies here
in South Texas were funded that Like, but but I
but I guess ICE too. I got to get you man. Yeah, yeah,
(26:03):
it was a.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Time front with the tie in whatever. You gotta fund.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
That, right, and like this bill again that they're even like, well,
you know what, we got to like, we got to
really make sure we're getting concessions out of the out
of the Trump administration if we're going to vote for
this malarkey. And it's all incrementalism. It's not the kind
of things that puts slams the brakes on the killings.
(26:28):
It's just it's like with more sparkle emojis. They want
to quote an independent federal state investigation, which includes Minnesota
officials of ice murders and tactics. A ban on ice
use of face masks, face masks, body cameras, a ban
on Rodney. Where have I heard that before?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I feel like that before, and I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, even wearing body cameras.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Doesn't seem I think some might be.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But overall, but by the way, there is twenty million
dollars in funding for body cameras in the current appropriations bill.
They're not mandatory though, all right, We're not trying to
be hard asses here, right right.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
My god.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And it's like body and at least the body cams,
which you can't like when when they set them up
so that you can't turn them off. That's like a
small but huge thing that came out of the Ferguson protests.
Rat have been able to like bring additional accountability and justice.
It's not everything, but it's something so to know that
they're not even doing that, right.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And it also is used as a surveillance tooled by
the police. The unfortunate side effects of cameras. They're like, yeah, actually,
we were trying to get funding for this already, so thanks, Yeah,
just what else you got in here, Miles.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh man, uh, just ban on inventing the invented administrative
warrants that are basically they're like, oh, we don't need
a judicial warrant to like enter a house. They're just
going off the vibes of that, there's no laws.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
The same in the constitution.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, sure, whatever, I don't know, whatever whatever that the
thing from fucking National Treasure. I guess they're adding they're
doing they're doing that's from a movie, bro, what the
fuck they're.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Doing the thing where they're like and could you like
please stop, Like this is now a negota tactic. We're
like negotiating is something that's like illegal under the constitution
that like they should be busy taking to the fucking
Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And yeah, I mean, like to even say, use the
term law enforcement with these people who do not abide
by the law is beyond laughable. But again that's still
if we're looking at this in the context of we
believe what their stated mission is as an organization, which
is to enforce immigration, that's not what this is. This
(28:52):
is meant to create. This is this is they're trying
to terrify people.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
They're doing what they intend to do right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And and show people if you want to quote unquote
interfear or hold us to account, then we are actually
we've been ordained by this state to end your life
and we will not see consequences. As Greg Bovino just said,
they whisked the shooters out of Minnesota already, and they're
like are they are they still on the streets. He's like, well,
(29:20):
you know, they're not on the streets in Minnesota. They're
on like just being really fucking I don't know if
you saw. He had an interview with Dana Vash on
CNN on Sunday, and he just kept saying the same
bullshit over and over again, even though on CNN they're like, oh,
let's look at the tape right now. Can you show
me right where you're saying this happened because it doesn't
(29:40):
show that. He's like, well, we got we're doing our
own investigations, like can you can we'd love we would
love to fucking see what you're going off. Where is that?
Because we have we have like five angles and it's
all showing the same thing. And he still could not,
you know, he was just like mmmm, which probably is
why there's a lot of damn it's control happening.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, so that that is something like we I think
we talked yesterday that there's some Republicans who are being like,
like Susan Collins being like, I want to transparent investigation, right,
people who are you know Susan Collins is out right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Mean she's she's always gonna do She's always gonna play
the part of concerned senator who does fuck all when
it when when you know when it's time to do it,
when it's trying to get busy. But then you have
like Lisa Murkowski or Tom Tillis, like some of them
are retiring, so they're doing the oh, I'm going to
turn up because I'm not running for reelection anymore, so
(30:42):
watch me say things outside like breaking the lines with
the regime. Like James Comer, again, there's like a lot
of headlineser are like there are fractures on the right.
But I think people need to dial that back a
little bit. I would describe these as shook ones are
speaking out of turn, but with not much conviction. Because
James Comer said, quote, if I were President Trump, I
(31:04):
would almost think about if the mayor and the governor
are going to put our ICE officials in harm's way
and there's a chance of losing more what we're seeing,
great description of what exactly exactly. Then then maybe go
to another city. So that was him kind of like, maybe,
I don't know, if not, I've tried to tow the line.
I think we're winning them over. Guys. Yeah, yeah, go
(31:26):
to another city.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Go to another city, try just do this again.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, and they keep saying like that they think Philadelphia
is going to be next, and every Philadelphia is like,
have you been to Philadelphia?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah? And also just.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Because yeah, you don't like to please don't. That's exactly
what Blake said when we're talking about this, because but
that's also terrifying, right because if they're built a little
bit differently, you can see the escalation happening there that
they're they're so desperate, the administration so desperately wants. Senator
(32:03):
Pete Rickots from Nebraska called the situation quote horrifying and
said that there should be a prioritize they should prioritize
a transparent investigation. But then he came back and said,
but my support for funding ICE has not changed. Yeah,
you know, so it's like the Republicans again, don't don't
worry about them. Even the ones you think are trying
to do something, they're not doing shit.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
They're yeah, they're just asking questions.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think again, when you look
at just even the pundits and the words of the
administration right now, there's it feels like the right wing
propaganda machine doesn't know which direction to pedal because there's
there's back pedaling on the on the subject, there's regular
(32:47):
pedaling just like it's maybe fine, we have to look
at the investigation first before we come to conclusion, and
then there's people straight pedaling more bullshit. So you're like,
I don't know, there's clearly not a unified mession messae
on how to do this. Like, for example, Benny Johnson,
a famous bullshit mouthpiece for the regime, was saying that
pretty was a paid agitator and terrorist who pulled the
(33:10):
gun on agents, so he was killed in self defense.
A lot of other right wing social media pundits whatever
Nazi freaks on Twitter or just saying like Preddi was
a terrorist, and they all tried to justify it by
claiming something happened that absolutely did not, which was that
he drew his weapon right, And everyone's like, bro, there's
(33:32):
none of nothing shows that at all. He didn't even
they disarmed him and then he was killed, so okay. Sure.
The administration seemingly has tried to cool the rhetoric, probably
because no one believes the fed's version of events, and
Trump's approval rating has him just firmly in the we
(33:52):
need to rig the midterms territory, which they were.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Trying to do, as we talked about on yesterday's episode.
They were like, we'll leave a nice city. You have
here be a sham off.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Something happened to it.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, we'll leave Minneapolis if you just give us all that,
give us the.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Data, give us the voter data now. And you're like,
what the fuck are y'all talking about, because again it's
not about immigration enforcement, even like it never was. Okay,
And so there's also the like spokespeople are backpedding. Caroline
Levitt broke ranks with Christy nom and Greg Bovino, and
she was like, look, the president hasn't has it. President
(34:29):
hasn't used the words domestic terrorists to describe this person
like these other two cabinet officials have and then she
said that Tom Holman would be the point person on
Minnesota operations, being both meaning Bovino and Nome are sidelined
in that sense, like if you want to. But Tom
Holman is the least articulate fucking person. He's like a
(34:51):
walking brain injury, and he's like, yeah, I think I
understand about He's like whoa, He's gonna get out there
and say who knows what. But that's where they're at
in terms of trying to reorient a bus for people
to be thrown under. Because I think Trump's also said
he posted on truth socials like I'm talking to Governor
Wills and we want this to be worked out. So
(35:14):
he's even taking the position of like, okay, let me
solve a problem, which again is very different than when uh,
you know, Renee Good was killed and was very much
like no, I don't know a time about No, that
was bad, and that's we're going to keep We're going
to keep moving forward. I think they've just lost steam
narratively to keep doing that without it becoming just even
more laughable. The Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche was on
(35:36):
Fox and he was pressed about the hasty conclusion the
dj put out that pretty was a domestic terrorist, and
he even tried to pretend that this was a tragedy,
which was a little bit I was like, Oh, I
thought you're you're just gonna go all in on being
like no, no, no, that everything was done by the
letter of the law. But here's the Deputy ag talking
about it and trying to describe the killing as a
(35:57):
quote tragedy with all the respects are.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
My question is more pointed, do you believe your colleagues
may have gone farther? You are an attorney at DOJ
eighteen US Code twenty three thirty one. It has a
legal definition of domestic terrorism, and it doesn't appear to
most of the country that have watched the available video.
And we'll see if there's bodycam video. I'd love to
know if that's going to come out, if there was
(36:22):
such a thing, But it does not appear to have
met that definition of domestic terrorism. So I'm just sort
of wondering how you in the DOJ are viewing whether
your colleagues may have gone too far.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Look, I don't I don't think anybody thinks that they
were comparing what happened on Saturday to the legal definition
of domestic terrorism, first of all.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But they just use the phrase, the legal phrase. They
just use the legal definition of domestic terrorism to describe
him as like christin anyone thinks.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
That again, we said it, but we don't mean so.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Look, he tried it. He tried it, and now he's
going to try and pivot to be like, now you
are in.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
This, Joe, literally like, oh my god, you thought we
were being serious about.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
This because just because the head of Homeland Securities designated
someone as a domestic terrorist, do you think she's being
serious and using legal definitions?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Oh my god, Guys, at a time when like the
whole world's eyes was on this event and she came
through with that, you think we were being literal? Right? No, no, no, no,
It's called poetic license.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
This is how this is how he describes it. So
it wasn't domestic terrorism, So what is it?
Speaker 7 (37:29):
What we saw was a very violent altercation, and I
am not going to prejudge the facts. You're right, there's
a bunch of video that's out there. There's a bunch
of video that we haven't seen yet in the in
the minutes leading up to what happened, and in what
happened afterwards, and you're right to the extent there's bodycam
or other videos that that that witnesses are still providing
(37:49):
to us. So so I'm not describing it as anything
except for a tragedy.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
The video that I've seen like starts pretty early.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, you see them getting out of their cars, attacking
a woman and him coming up to try to protect.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That woman, like I don't know what, I don't even
like protect, not even like yo, like stop sucking, where
he's like, hey, are you okay? Let me help you
up these fuckers?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
You yeah, and then like how much early are we
gonna go? We're gonna see what do you have for breakfast?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Like well, no, go back about fourteen years to this
tweet I found or some ship or whatever they're.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Gonna that's exactly it, or his brother or his cousin
who is attached to the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
And again this is this is the same playbook they
run on black people, people other people of colored that
are killed by police, where it's like we already know
you killed an innocent person, and then you're gonna start
smearing them and you might find you might you might
find some out of context photo and be like well, look,
did you see that the guy had a mean look
in this picture. It's like, I don't know what the fuck.
It looks like a high school football photo. Have you
(38:56):
seen anybody in high school? They all try to look tough.
So another one is Judge Andrew Napolitano. He was on
Newsmax and he was straight up like, na, this is
a fucking murder. Which Napolitano he's he's like he does
the broken clock thing every now and then, like he's
not He'll he'll like be like, man, Trump's a fucking mess.
Other times will be caping for the cop like but
(39:18):
here's Andrew Napolitano on Newsmax though. This is his take
when the anchor's like, I don't know, what do you
think is going on here?
Speaker 5 (39:24):
In this particular case, they did remove his gun. I
understand them removing his gun if they're going to restrain him.
Then they shot him in the back while he was
on his belly on the ground. That's quote murder, and
that's an issue that the fans are going to have
to work with, and the state, once it gets the
the evidence in the case, is going to have.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
To work with. So to that, MAGA judge. He was like, uh,
I don't know. I'm like, it looks bad, guys. I
don't know. It's usually easier for me to defend law
enforcement for this kind of thing. But that's that' that's
kind of where things are. And I think it definitely
like it's weird for all of the bluster you see
(40:06):
out of the administration, they occasionally do the thing where
they act like the fucking puppy that shit all over
the carpet and it's like, oh, yes, and try and
sort of like be like, oh, we're trying to remedy
this or whatever. But I mean, at this point, I
don't know, no one should take any of the words
out of the administration seriously in terms of them acting
(40:27):
as if there's any regret or anything like that. It's
they're all just trying to manage the optics because they
don't want to come off as what they are, which
is a bloodthirsty regime that has what could care less
about anyone being killed if they're standing in the way and.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
They're trying to overthrow democracy. As we saw an hour
after the shooting, they were like, we'll leave if you
give us the vote, directors, and that probably feels like
a dead end to them at this point because there's
so much attention on that email like that they kind
of fucked that one up. So now they're maybe backpedaling
(41:01):
away from this particular battle to go do it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, but again, yeah, but again, I think, in the
wise words of Marjorie Taylor Green, we are being incited
into a civil war, you know what I mean. They
are trying every moment, every provocation from Ice is again
they want the pot to boil over and have mass
civil unrest so they can say, guys, look at what's happened.
(41:28):
We're not gonna have an election if this hit. Guys
are gonna act, yeah and straight up that is what
they're going to do, and then hope that people are
so worn down at that point that we don't press
back when they try and fully abscond with the entire thing.
I mean, they're probably about sixty percent complete here. Yeah,
but I think that's why, like I was saying on
(41:48):
Monday's episode, seeing the general strike in Minnesota should be
the beginnings of a pattern for how more cities are
going to respond collectively, because you know, obviously, like the
person to person confrontations help to delay things, but there's
something about the collective action too that will help. And
I think also kind of like really accepting the fact
(42:09):
that we can't really count on these legislators to help
us at the person level, and we all need to
begin using the skills that we have to community build
and to communicate and find like like minded people to
really begin to create those sort of structures that keep
us protected and looking out for each other, because, like,
you know, I see it all like in LA especially
(42:30):
after the fires, so many like so many different kinds
of mutual aid networks have propped up, and they're just
shifting gears. So like if you follow this one account,
they're now fully on like help this vendor who was
just kidnapped, help this family who like had someone taken away,
they need this, or that. Those things are existing and
you just got to find them and get involved. And
it's it's at least that it's the easiest way to
(42:51):
not feel fully fucking overwhelmed by everything that's happening, because
I completely understand what people are like, I don't even
I don't even know what to do. It's like that's
the fucking point that's they want everybody. I don't even
know what to do because everyone goes, okay, you want
to fuck with me, ben, Let me get together with
all my people and let me make sure everybody's good
on my side, because if if this is really about
protecting each other, then at least you know, you don't
(43:12):
have to get ready if you stay ready. Yeah. Hey,
there is more of us than there are of them.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, and again the doing is wildly unpopular.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
And their god is money, and their god is money.
Their god is money, their god is money. If you
fuck with their god, they start killing. Oh god, maybe
Greenland isn't a thing. Do you see what happened to
the bond market? Oh go, Because at the end of
the day, that's the one thing that these people think
will keep them from justice is wealth. I feel like
(43:43):
if I get rich enough, if I can, if I
can keep people three socioeconomic classes away from me, then
that I probably won't get touched. And that's and you
see that with all the greed that's happening these people.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
But those people aren't real, you know, the people who
are three economics socioeconomic classes below me, they're not Is
that real?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
They're just an.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Idea that I can easily dismiss in my head.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
It's the cast of the musical Oliver.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I think, all right, let's take a quick break and
then we'll be back to talk about another thing that
is giving people hope, which is the upcoming documentary about
our Queen, Milania.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Trump will be right back.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
And we're back, and just real quick. The same day,
on Saturday, the same day that Ice murdered another protester,
the White House hosted a fancy film screening the world
premiere of Amazon's Milania the documentary slash Obvious Bribe, directed
(44:56):
by Brett Ratner. When we say obvious bribe, referring to
the fact that Amazon paid forty million dollars YEP for
the rights for the right to put it on Amazon Prime,
yeah documentary, Yeah, forty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
You know what the total price tag of this fucking
thing you now is is seventy five million. Because Amazon
put thirty five million into marketing and distribution. They're trying
to put this thing everywhere. That's more than even the
Taylor Swift Eras documentary put into their Although I feel
like they don't have to spend shit to get them.
I don't know if that's good. That is that is
(45:36):
not how film film studios work. They don't know this
is already popular, so we're not gonna put money.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
They're like, oh, this is already popular, We're gonna put five.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Times the money into this.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Uh. They use like tracking data to see if like
people are interested in and then they just like triple
down until you know, the only thing you know is
that there's a third Avatar movie coming out.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, this we can always be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
We all know, we all know they're they're not stopping
during our life lifetime. But yeah, So they did this
at the White House because obviously they couldn't do it
anywhere else. They turned the White House into a red carpet,
brought in some top notch, washed up dirt bags such
(46:26):
as Tony Robbins, and then Mike Tyson was there, which
hurts my heart.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yes, I mean he's always been on yeah like.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
This, you know what, like Zoom CEO Eric Yanu and
Apple CEO Tim Cook also came like that, what the
fuck are people doing?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, well, I mean we know what they're doing, right,
They're just ensuring that their exit position is strong. Everyone
has everyone has an exit position. They're saying, well, how
do I survive right now? And how do I look
out the other end of this because if you're if
you're running a gigantic company Apple, He's like, well, the
line shuts fuck isn't going down, so I'm not going
(47:11):
to invite the ire of this administration. And that will
also help me build a bunker that is even deeper
in the Earth's surface to hide myself from the automated
guillotines that are developed for the world.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And they are so like motivate by bunkers. They do
of a bunker.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
They love a bunker.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
They love a islands, their house.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
On the island.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
They love, as we've discussed before, having conversations amongst each
other about whether you have to plan to shoot the
pilot who flies you in your family to the island
because otherwise he's going to go back at his family
and want some of your food, so you gotta you
gotta take him out.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
That's a real. That's a real.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
That's well from somebody who's like I am a VC
like multimillionaire in Silicon Valley. I'll tell you a conversation
I've heard not once many times. Yeah, among the people
up there is, so.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
They always they're always trying to figure that part out.
What do I do with the workers?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yes, and that is very classic.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, yeah, what I once I get, Once I get
what I need from them, I don't want to feed
them or protect them, So how do I do it?
And then like they'll just run all these fucking weird
thought experiments. But yeah, the like apparently, like Jeff Bezos
has himself was being like, you gotta make this fucking movie.
Do something. You gotta because again, like look, Tim Cook's there,
(48:44):
and obviously Jeff Bezos secured his position by being like, yeah,
I will pay, I don't care, just say a number,
how much money do you want me to give you,
and let's just exchange some kind of products. So it
seems like not a total grease payment, but it.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
We're gonna need some citizen journalists because they're gonna buy
a bunch of tickets. We're gonna need some citizen journalists
to go to these theaters and film the empty theaters
that are supposedly sold out.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, because I mean you think that's the thing is
like even the early ticket sales are low. I wonder
if they're gonna do that thing where they're like, well,
let's see what the people do before we fully fully
put our thumbs on this scale. I think that's what
they're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
But they're not going to let this be a total flop.
Yeah at least, like.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
They're dumb, but they're dumb and it will be and
they're not they're not going. They're not Like, if you're
really worried about it, you would have bought out all
the fucking at the beginning, Like it was one of
those human trafficking movies that there's qing on free stale
and they're just show up, bro, it's free tickets. It's
free tickets. But I just don't with this. It feels
like maybe they're trying to just see, like could off
(49:52):
the strength of the Nope, Nope, because all the projections
are like, dude, they're gonna be death fucking worth. Yeah,
you're gonna have gonna have fucking tumble weeds blowing down
the fucking aisles because it's gonna be so empty. But sure, sure,
there's like two documentaries ever that did well at the
box office. You know, there's been like Supersize Me and
(50:14):
Fahrenheit nine one one, Like those are holding for Columbine.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like and those movies make like, I
don't know, ten million dollars or something.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, yeah, not however much they put how much you
said they put into this thing.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Seventy five million. That's the bill they have. This needs
to make seventy five million plus a dollar for a
great considered a profit. It's just all it's all nonsense.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
So we'll wait and see.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, I will be. I'll be a waiting reviews of that.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Doesn't sound Does it sound like it's
gonna be that great that people have seen it? They're like,
I don't know, but sure, I guess it's a documentary.
I don't know. Do you want to talk about Brett Ratner?
Speaker 4 (50:53):
No, okay, fine, But anyways, in the same way that
the gestapo ice agents are keeping a data base of
names of people who take video of them, I feel
like we got to keep an eye on all the
people who like go to these sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Just be like, hey, we're and be like I want
to forget that. Yeah, you know, say, what the fuck
is wrong with you? Exactly? Did you think you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Yes, all right, Nicole, It's been such a pleasure having
you on the show Where Can People Find You? Follow
you all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
All my business is on the internet.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
You can follow me on social at either our ancestors
were messy, Uh, well you follow me there and at
Nicole with an H. So it's n I C H
O L E W T H and H. I've never
had to really like say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
It's not smooth.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, it's it's tough. You do it enough though, you'll
find a kid.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
But it's literally, like you know, when you have one
of those names.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I never thought about it until I talked to Nicole's
without Nature. They're like, I just say my name is Nicole.
I was like, I always have to say it's Nicole
with a name. It's like, literally my name.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
It's a classy the classy spelling.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Ooh thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I knew somebody named that. In high school we always
heard nicholl. Yes that yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying
and I am going to say it can't be the
New Malania documentary.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Oh my god, that was my thing though.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
No, you know, there's a Chilean protest song. I don't
know how to say it in Spanish. But in English
it's the people United will Never be defeated. And this
American composer, Frederick something did a performs this song in
thirty six variations and takes you through like the history
(52:44):
of the piano by just performing the song over and
over and over again. And I think I am one
variations eight. I'm like making my way through. I want
to listen to all of them. He put on a
concert and it was this huge cell laboratory, like like
protest moment. I think it was an early two thousands,
(53:06):
and I just love it. And I think at this moment,
it's just giving me some peace and some hope.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, you know we're gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
Hell yeah, Miles, where can people find you? And is
there a workimedia you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me
chatting sheet about the Premier League. Holy fuck Arsenals. That's
a real weird, weird result. And now the inner dude,
everyone hates that we're doing well. So the second it's
like the Celtics, right, like when the second the Celtics,
like when they were prime Celtics, and they Wow, I'm like,
(53:41):
that's kind of what's happening, and it's it's it's hard,
but you know what, I still believe. So check out
Ain't It Footy? That's the soccer show. And then also
ninety dight Fiance Talk is happening on four to twenty
day Fiance A work a media that I like. Yes,
it's pretty straightforward. This one is from at d l
y Be Scott at Social said, Bovino's haircut looks like
(54:02):
if A Karen designed a Mrken. Yeah, I'm having that.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Uh. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore
O Brian, Blue Sky Jack ob the number one Instagram
Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore Brian. I like to tweet from
somebody Hustelani Hustla Nanni h u s t l A
n A n I tweeted, sorry, I can't come. My
clothes looks stupid on me.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Oh oh arrive. I thought he meant sexual gratification.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
No, no, I just I can't come to your party
because my clothes looks stupid on me. You can find
us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to
the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes
is where we link off to the information that we
(54:54):
talked about in today's episode. We also link off to
a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is
there a song that you think that people might enjoy.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Let's go out on something nice and easy, just something
that feels soothing to hear. It's El Michael's Affair, which
is a great band, but with claro on the vocals.
The song is called Anticipate, and it just feels like,
you know, you can just kind of feel good listening
to some music right now, which I'm sure we all need.
So yeah, anticipate El Michael's Affair.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
Hey, speaking of something that you can feel good about.
We do have our two thousandth episode two thousandth coming
up a week from today today. Yeah yeah, and we
are asking you for your favorite memories, your predictions for
the next two thousand. We will link off to that
in the footnote or you can contribute, Yes, give us
(55:44):
your name.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
I now sit in the discord server, a lot of
people already replying directly to me and the discord over
which I love, which I love, But please use a
Google form that way we can put everything together because
we'd love to read off some of your favorite memories,
because honestly, Jack and I are like, we're like, what
if if we counted down our favorite memories and we
were like looking down, like.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
I don't remember what memories? I don't know any bus
jog memories. Yeah, so our listeners are so funny.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
So there are some fucking really good ones. Just people
reflexively fired off like as their favorite and I was
in an instant time machine. Oh my god. So I'm
again everybody who's participated. Thank you. If you're thinking about it,
please send us your favorite memory and predict your favorite
memory for the next two thousand episodes, because it'll help
your old grandpa's feel good. I hope your old grandpa
(56:35):
feel good.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Superprius are on a jsany I shared a picture from
the early days where we were recording with tinfoil hats on,
and I still don't That did not jog my memory
that I think it was with jackies.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
I feel like we've done tinfoil hats a few times,
have we? Yeah? Yeah, this is one that was really nice.
I just want to call this one. This from Cascady
in eighty three course sort of said, not a single
moment for me. But I seem to recall early on
the podcast someone commenting about how Jack and Miles seemingly
like we're good friends, and they said, yeah, we don't
really talk much outside of the podcast, and seeing them
go from co workers to friends over the years has
(57:12):
been really sweet.
Speaker 4 (57:13):
And I'm like, oh, close my heart. Yeah, we saw
them talk before or after we hit record.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
No, that's it. We keep it. Look, that's how you
keep a marriage, and I keep it. Separate beds, separate.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
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Speaker 2 (57:44):
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The call.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm gonna need a lot more yelling here.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I told you I was trying in the beginning a
dollar or something.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, since you're Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I don't know if I've ever eveen. Well, of course
I've yelled before, but I'm like, when's the last time.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Wow, that's great.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm not a yeller.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're so chill that you gotta goh god, when was
the last time I raised my voice?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, I get like really calm, like a witch. People
say it's worse you get angry, Yeah, because it's just
it feels like everything's clear now.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's like hmm oh right, right, right, right, oh right,
it's like that.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Damn, you get clearer when you're angry. I do think
it's so dumb. I'm just like, I better not say
anything because it's going to be so stupid and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
To be crying because I don't know how to manage
my emotions to this. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, you do a lot of stopping and you know,
folding my arms and getting in the corner, staring at
the corner.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't want rich, you don't want dinner, Okay, okay,
I made your favorite spaghetti. I don't like spaghetti.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, you don't like spaghetti anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No more for us, give me the spaghetti.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, spaghetti right, that's mine. Hello the Internet, and welcome
to Season four, twenty three, Episode two of Dirt Thy Guys,
the production by Heart Rady. We told our guests we
don't yell on this show, and that's true. Realizing incorrect
(01:44):
right off.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The best screams from the beginning, Bye bye bye.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also
have a new weekly history version of the show dropping
each Monday morning, where we do a deep dive into
the history of a different icon. We just dropped Marilyn
Monroe Yesterday Yesterday Morning with Blair Sak.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Very very fun episode. Go check that out. The episodes
have icon in the title.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
It is Tuesday, January twenty seventh, twenty twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, the twenty seventh real all kinds of things
to commemorate this day. Very apt considering everything that's happening
in the world. It's in Vietnam Peace Day, remember that
war of global and American imperialism. Also National Chocolate Cake Day. Okay,
thank you all. Praise be to the chocolate cake and
(02:44):
also National Holocaust Rememberance Day. So there's a lot to
remember today as we as we moved through an unprecedented
well not.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Unprecedented as America.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, yes, Like I said in yesterday's show, it's more
that this date has determined that eligibility requirements for for
being brutalized have now been expanded to more people than previous.
Uh so come on in.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I guess now for Vietnam p do they recognize the
historical piece or the one where Rainbow two goes back
and wins?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
This is about.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
This is for rememorates the release of two. Yeah, do
we get to win this time?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That it's commemorating that day. Yeah, yeah, one, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host cool,
my co host who mister Miles ground.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Wow you did a you did like a little pump
fake with that, you said, co hot.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I peaked a little bit on the audio.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh oh okay, sorry I didn't. I didn't know if
my damn was co host. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I just couldn't get over the my co hosts switch it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Up to this guy outside I'm looking at Yes, it's
Miles Great, the Lord of Lake. The show going with
no gun. Great to be here with everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Great to be here with a few Miles. We're thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by award winning
audio showrunner and creator of the podcast The Secret Adventures
of Black People. Last year, she launched a show called
Our Ancestors Were Messy, about the gossip, scandals, and pop
culture that made headlines in historical black newspapers across America.
(04:24):
Welcome to the show. It's Nicole.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I should yell. I can't yell.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
No, no, don't don't. I don't have to yell.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I feel I have to.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
We are comping, We are compensafing. Welcome show. God had
something interesting to say, so instead I just yell you
could just.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Turn me up later. Hello. How are you?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Audio was really blown out, trying to make it seem
like she was yelling, how are you, Nicole? How are you?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well. How are you?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know, as you said up Tom, precedented times in
the country, you know. But I think that, like I
was saying before, being black and Japanese. I've heard multiple
versions of this growing up, like I'm sure you have
of sort of like, let's not get it fucked up
about what this country is that you live in, and
(05:21):
I think this is I think this is. This is
Right now, it feels like a lot more people are
now becoming a little bit more in tune with that
idea that it that nobody is actually safe unless everybody
is safe. A lesson being learned a little late, but
you know what, better late than ever. And I hope
that I hope that sort of those kinds of realizations
help people get through this very very very fucked up
(05:43):
time because it's not going to be easy.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's not going to be It's a lesson we learn
every decade, two decades and forget then we learned then
forget that is this is the cycle we're trapped in, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But I'm glad that we're in the remembering part of it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, exactly exactly, because it's the it's like in the
twenty twenty three, twenty four's of our of our cycles
when you're like and people are like and everything and
we're good again. We're good again. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
what the hell are you talking about? Don't like, well,
Nancy Pelosi had a can't take cloth on.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I thought we were good with Falt's.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
She's so old. Did you see how she took that
knee that could have killed her? But she did it
for us? And look at them. I'll just and still
I think that's the thing too. We find ourselfs like
similar similar in how what twenty twenty did for people
understanding police brutality. Now we're sort of broadening it to
state sanctioned violence, our stupid ethno nationalist, white supremacist immigration policies.
(06:41):
But it's like you're at that crossroad again where people
go this shit has to end full stop. This is bullshit,
this is nonsense. It doesn't work, it's not helping, it's
only harming. And then, just like in twenty twenty, people
like agreed, the cops.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Are wild n out but right but right now not
all ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And right now it's like ice is why went out?
But we might be able to just say no, no, no, no,
what if they weren't wearing masks? Would you feel better
about this then?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
But yeah, anyway, most consistent American value with state sponsored
white supremaciy supremacist violence and.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Then the calls for more training than the calls room.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, if we believe in two things, state sponsored white
supremacist viny.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And how do we solve it?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
T Yeah, the person who like shows up in the
office like Hi, Yeah, exactly, sexual harassment, this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Person, this person is talk.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
This guy's wearing a clan outfit. Well, he came from that.
He's from the consulting company who's giving everybody all the
different brands interesting ideas. Nicole.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
We're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
stories we're talking about today. We're going to talk about
the Democrats acting like they're actually going to do something.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, yeah, we're.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Going to see you know, OK, what is it, Miles
we're going to talk about and I don't tell.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A lot about it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, No, they might withhold the Democrats and the Senate.
The House Democrats already voted the Trumps average from one
point two billion trillion government funding package through, but the
Senate might might be public brakes on that. So we'll
see talk about who voted for it pretty recently and
(08:30):
how that all came together. We'll talk about what the
Republican The Republicans seem to be having a real crisis
of consciousness slash pr around this where the ones who
aren't going for re elections seem to be like, wait
a second, this, this seems bad. But well, we'll talk
about that, and of course we're going to talk about
(08:51):
the big movie premiere that happened over the weekend. Milania
premiered at the White House, famous movie theater, the White House,
Yeah yeah, and was attended by you know, brought out
all the.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Boot licking has been Yeah, yeah, all of them.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
It's kind of unimpressive array of the most dimly glittering stars.
All that, plenty more. But fir Nicole, we do like
to ask our guest, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Who I am?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I think, Well, I mean, I'm really just hunting down
the tour for Bad Buddy. I'm trying to go see
him in some other country. I want to give this
man my money. Yeah, I want to dance to his
music with a sea of other people. Can I speak Spanish?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It doesn't matter, but you know it's about yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
At that point, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Just a vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh my god, he's so much fun, so that I
think that that's probably.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And you agree with us, So it sounds like you
agree with us that he should speak English, right, because
he's gonna be my super Bowl halftime.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Not my super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Did you see Trump? He's like, I'm not going because
it's too far away. Damn, this fool just went to Switzerland. Okay,
where's the super Bowl at this year? San Francisco. Oh
that's why. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't want to be in
California with all this ship going on, and he doesn't
want to be reminded that people in physical space fucking
(10:27):
hate him because every time everyone, yeah, it was like boom.
And he's like.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
In Washington where like half the crowd is on his payroll.
Yeah right, you know, like they're all government employees.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Fuck you.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yes, exactly. I used to live in d C.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And it was I mean, it's just everywhere you go.
I was just back there a few weeks ago. I
mean all you see are signs of how much people
hate him in new and creative ways.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's fantastic. And that's also my favorite
part about being in bars in d C. The graffiti
in the in the men's so much, so many great
pro democracy specifically, I feel like I read the wildest
anti Trump graffiti in like a DC bathroom.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I've never been in there, the ones.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well look I nightmare in there. Yeah.
Everything everything's wet.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Bathrooms, everything just it's like cold cuts in there. Why
is everything wet? Why does it need to be sorry
about it? Don't worry about uniformly wet.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's like it's like this liquid is purple on the ground,
Like what the fuck? Don't don't don't ask too many
questions about that. I will say.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
There's a lot of Melania signs around Los Angeles, and
I gotta I gotta say the for for her.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Documentary, fucking those up. Yeah that I've seen the bust,
like the bus stop ads. It would be like Milania
is uh and then put your favorite words underneath that
or stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah. Yeah, what is Nicole something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think that, well this is very specific, but the
Manhattan Beach Public Library in La Oh, it's so gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's so beautiful. It's right by the water.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You've got like these incredible views, very very calming. I mean,
public libraries are like pretty great, and a lot of
them in the last few years have been going through
all these renovations in major cities. It's just as feels
like being in a little time capsule being in them.
So all public libraries that that one specifically.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wait, was that one like so nice? You felt like
you're like, is this a public library?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I was like this, it's so gorgeous in here. This
makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I almost I saw like someone was posting how a
library was selling their card catalog because like they were
they were liquidating like everything inside, and like all these
like bibliophiles are like where is it? I wanted because
part of you like just seeing that bulky ass card
(13:14):
catalog cabinet with the fucking brass handles and ship and
the little screws that kept all the cards in. Like
I looked at it and go, I can smell it.
I know I already forgot how to use the Dewey
decimal system, but I will fucking remember. But there's just
something I don't know for whatever, that that visual of
a like now obsolete card catalog thing. For that was
one of the first times I understood like when boomers
(13:36):
like and this is my collection? Are record players whatever?
And I'm like, yeah, whatever, bro Then I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Like, the Dowey decimal system theystem. Where else do we
use it? Everywhere? I'm sure? But like if you say
Dewey decimal system card.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Catalog, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were doing. What a win
for Dewey. By the way, wind.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Happy amazing branding for that guy.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I so go to the public library and I do
have trouble with the Dewey decimal system. Like I wanted
to be like, yeah, that's one of those skills they
told us we were gonna need and we didn't actually need.
Turns out I need it and I suck at it.
My way of dealing with the Dewey decimal system is
(14:22):
asking the library and hey, can you help me find
about Legos my some really one book about Legos? Oh
oh you guys again. Yeah, it's in the same place
that it wasn't learn I'm just.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Numbered and what all this has happened? I go, man,
let me learn more about Melville Dewey, the creator of
the Dewey decimal system, and then I this is the
ship you go Like Wikipedia, I'm always scanning for is
there a controversy section. Yes, there is sexual harassment, anti semitism,
and racism. Dewey. The Lake Placid Club banned Jews, blacks,
and others from membership, a policy written by Dewey himself.
(15:03):
Do we know why you do to us like that?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Damn, we can't have anything nice, not even one nice thing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I just fuck it. It's the catalog. I don't need
the decimal system. I don't need I don't need to
recognize the system of organization, but merely the tangible cabinet
that remains there.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It is there. It is the decimal system. That's what
we call it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I feel like it's all like you can see that
it was typed in a typewriter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's smudge ink, smudges.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And yeah, dude, there's many pencils. They still got many
pencils at the library. They got many pencils.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Oh yeah, but they're like less, they're not like as
around and as available.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
They're not trying to encourage the use of them.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm not getting golf courses.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Many golf courses would take minolize the whole market.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, you hate, you hate to see it? What is
something that coles do you think is overrated?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Visuals? Visuals for everything?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I just feel like very Beyonce in that way, exhausted
a visuals it's.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The latest what's the latest visual that brought you here
that you're like, okay, what the visuals?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What was it? I don't I don't even I can't
even think of it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I just feel like I opened my phone and then
it's just so much stuff to look at. I don't know,
and you know what it is, Probably I follow so
many fashion accounts me okay, and it's just everyone opened
my phone. There's just some new outfit that you're meant
to buy. It's crazier than the last one. It's more
(16:34):
expensive but less material like it because it's dressing is
so in Like if we all just like turn this
off and.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Just wore whatever we want. Yeah, yeah, I feel like yeah,
visuals like it's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm always concern Like I saw something where there was
a jacket and a vest that was similar to the jacket.
It was a down jacket and a down vest and
the vest was only twenty dollars less than the jacket,
and I'm like, so those sleeves only cost ten bucks apiece.
Like whenever I see pricing like that, like especially with
(17:10):
the amount of fabric, I'm like, come the fuck on,
but again, this is a baby. Yeah, of course, of
course that that of course that overrated. Spoken like an
award winning audio show runner. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I don't know if you've heard. My podcasts are pivoting
to video and we'll get on board, come on.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Even more visuals.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
My nine year old this weekend was like, I want
to watch the podcast, and we were. He was talking
about an audio only pot like a podcast that we've
never watched before. But I think I think it's just
you know, you let you listen to it and then
something's happening in your imagination. A much happier when they're
listening to something than when they're trying to watch something.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's your kids watch how it's made, how it's made.
No him that like it was like a Canadian show
he used to be on the Science Channel would literally
be like, this is how they make a fucking van
and it's just like in the factory line and it's
just all process. Wow, bro, I got my kid on that.
He's fucking He's like, what the fuck they're making a van.
(18:15):
I'm like, yes, look at that. He's like the tires.
I'm like the tires. Yes, look they do it all.
And I just remember I had like the same feeling
when I was like I think a stoner in college
and that show first came out. I'm like, bro, how
they make donuts?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Dude? At scale? Dont those are amazing?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's kind of wild when I when you go get
your nails done or where I get my nails done,
they put those videos. I feel like they are everywhere.
They're just like a person making a cake and then
you just like hypnotize. It's like, wow, what goes into
making a cake? I'll never know because I'm not bacon,
But so it is kind of mesmerizing to learn how
something is made.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean because that's like a lot
of people say that about like a lot of videos
on social media that do really well. Will just like
to see other people work and make stuff and do
shit like you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah yeah, I mean maybe it's maybe it's from an
era before capitalism when people were just like oh yeah,
making things that's handy.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, together. We were all just like doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I love it all.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right, let's take a quick break. You can check out
some non visual ads. We're going to come back to
give you a non visual recap of some news stories
that are happening. Won't be right back, and we're back
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and following the murder of Alex pretty over the weekend,
the Democrats are seemingly trying to prove that they're not
completely spineless and incompetent. It's a low bar, but there.
You know, they even dropped a fuckword on the social
media's calling Stephen Miller a fucking liar with blood on
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your hands.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Whoa, whoa. Someone at the DNC rolled their sleeves up
for that tweet. Wow, they said, you're a fucking liar
with blood in your hands. Becau. Stephen Miller described the
interaction with prettiest quote would be assassin tried to murder
federal law enforcement. In the official Democrat account sides with
the terrors. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
But readers added context to Stephen Miller's thing, also saying
videos of the encounter shows that the gunman, of.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Course, never drawn. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Seven House Democrats just voted to pass the Trump administration's
one point two trillion government funding package that includes sixty
four billion dollars more for the Government of Homeland Security
or for the Department of Homeland Security, and ten billion
dollars more for ICE. So they kind of have blood
on their hands too.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, yeah, only a couple. It's funny because after it's while,
after that vote happened, Alex Pretti's killed, and then you
had some some of these Democrats being like, what happened
is unacceptable, and people are like, excuse me, you just
fucking signed off on money for them, and then like
I think I want them to be trained.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
As of right now, the only person I've seen who's
actually like owned up to the fact that they fucking
voted to fund ICE as Tom Swosey from New York.
He said, quote, I hear the anger from many of
my constituents, and I take responsibility for that. I have
long been critical of ICE's unlawful behavior, and I must
do a better job demonstrating that. How do you how
(21:42):
do you add your critical advice? How do you have
a voting for that? Well, I'll do a better job
demonstrating that. So, like, if I vote for it. Then
I'll explain why ice bad.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I will say fuck on social media, yeah right there
for God and my mother to see.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, it's really I mean, it's just like this is
the kind of thing too when because because Maga and
the Republican Party is so clear on where it stands
that it's it's such a double edged sword for Democrats
because it allows them to lean into their worst habit
even harder, which is to do nothing and merely gesture
at the Republicans and be like, well, we're not that bad, right,
(22:20):
But at the same time, you'd hope that the other
the way the blade cuts. The other way is that
you can actually lean into the like actual moral outrage
that is being experienced by many people and tap into
something and maybe do something different brings something like change,
rather than like, hey, next time, I'll do a better
job on demonstrating might like yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Like I feel like I would love for them to
save some of that smoke for Democrats who vote for
shit like this rather than like, because you know, Steven
Miller is already like obviously lying like that. I mean,
that's fine, but like I want to see that same
shit from you know, mainstream Democrats point out that the
people who like a lot of people were talking this
(23:02):
weekend about the rotating villain theory where they like have
people whose turn it is to go ahead and vote
for the evil thing, and like it's a way to
I guess, spread it out so that nobody gets like
all the tainting like coming to them. But like, at
the same time, that also just feels like when you
(23:25):
enter a criminal organization and they're like, you're gonna have
to kill someone to like prove that you're cool, do
this line in front of us, you know, like they're
just making sure that everybody's like in line and willing
to vote for the bad thing to prove that they're
a Democrat, which I just I don't know. It feels
(23:46):
like getting organized around spinelessness is not what we need
from them.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
No, No, especially when you've seen a group like capitulate
the way they have just over the last year. Many
times when they had or working towards having some kind
of meaningful leverage to get the administration to do something different,
they're like, yeah, I don't even know I fucking shut down.
It's fucking ended. I don't know who cares.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh, the shutdown was so hard.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It was like they had everybody, the momentum behind them,
everybody backing them. It just feels a lot of times
like they have not fully come to terms with the
fact that we are in something very dark and very
dangerous and very different than whatever they experienced in the sixties, seventies, eighties,
ninety I mean, this is totally different.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But suffunch with those guys.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah actually right, like he doesn't mean it, He's not
gonna they would never, you know, do it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's like, yeah, they mean it, Yeah they do it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They're doing to stop yeahah yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
So that's all context for Chuck Schumer coming through taking
to social media to call for Ice to leave Minnesota.
He did use some capital letters. Yeah, Ice out of Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Now, so okay, man waves fist at cloud. How do
you but you actually you might? So what are you
going to do? What's everybody going to do? Because that's
what started I used the all caps on now okay. No,
I meant like legislatively, like using the powers that are
available to you as like a sitting senator of the
United States, is.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
That it's actually not my turn to do the difficult thing.
We actually have a rotating group of people who do
difficult things. So we're we're going to talk about it. Well,
we're taking it under advisement.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
There's another there's actually another congress person who is doing
like a light maya culpa because they're like, why would
you vote for this bill? Why? Why?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Why?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is a representative Gonzales from Texas, he said, this
is Vicenta Gonzalez. He said, well, let me make it clear.
My vote was not to fund ICE. But what I
was voting for was to ensure that our agencies here
in South Texas were funded that Like, but but I
but I guess ICE too. I got to get you man. Yeah, yeah,
(26:03):
it was a.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Time front with the tie in whatever. You gotta fund.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
That, right, and like this bill again that they're even like, well,
you know what, we got to like, we got to
really make sure we're getting concessions out of the out
of the Trump administration if we're going to vote for
this malarkey. And it's all incrementalism. It's not the kind
of things that puts slams the brakes on the killings.
(26:28):
It's just it's like with more sparkle emojis. They want
to quote an independent federal state investigation, which includes Minnesota
officials of ice murders and tactics. A ban on ice
use of face masks, face masks, body cameras, a ban
on Rodney. Where have I heard that before?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I feel like that before, and I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, even wearing body cameras.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Doesn't seem I think some might be.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But overall, but by the way, there is twenty million
dollars in funding for body cameras in the current appropriations bill.
They're not mandatory though, all right, We're not trying to
be hard asses here, right right.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
My god.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And it's like body and at least the body cams,
which you can't like when when they set them up
so that you can't turn them off. That's like a
small but huge thing that came out of the Ferguson protests.
Rat have been able to like bring additional accountability and justice.
It's not everything, but it's something so to know that
they're not even doing that, right.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And it also is used as a surveillance tooled by
the police. The unfortunate side effects of cameras. They're like, yeah, actually,
we were trying to get funding for this already, so thanks, Yeah,
just what else you got in here, Miles.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh man, uh, just ban on inventing the invented administrative
warrants that are basically they're like, oh, we don't need
a judicial warrant to like enter a house. They're just
going off the vibes of that, there's no laws.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
The same in the constitution.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, sure, whatever, I don't know, whatever whatever that the
thing from fucking National Treasure. I guess they're adding they're
doing they're doing that's from a movie, bro, what the
fuck they're.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Doing the thing where they're like and could you like
please stop, Like this is now a negota tactic. We're
like negotiating is something that's like illegal under the constitution
that like they should be busy taking to the fucking
Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And yeah, I mean, like to even say, use the
term law enforcement with these people who do not abide
by the law is beyond laughable. But again that's still
if we're looking at this in the context of we
believe what their stated mission is as an organization, which
is to enforce immigration, that's not what this is. This
(28:52):
is meant to create. This is this is they're trying
to terrify people.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
They're doing what they intend to do right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And and show people if you want to quote unquote
interfear or hold us to account, then we are actually
we've been ordained by this state to end your life
and we will not see consequences. As Greg Bovino just said,
they whisked the shooters out of Minnesota already, and they're
like are they are they still on the streets. He's like, well,
(29:20):
you know, they're not on the streets in Minnesota. They're
on like just being really fucking I don't know if
you saw. He had an interview with Dana Vash on
CNN on Sunday, and he just kept saying the same
bullshit over and over again, even though on CNN they're like, oh,
let's look at the tape right now. Can you show
me right where you're saying this happened because it doesn't
(29:40):
show that. He's like, well, we got we're doing our
own investigations, like can you can we'd love we would
love to fucking see what you're going off. Where is that?
Because we have we have like five angles and it's
all showing the same thing. And he still could not,
you know, he was just like mmmm, which probably is
why there's a lot of damn it's control happening.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, so that that is something like we I think
we talked yesterday that there's some Republicans who are being like,
like Susan Collins being like, I want to transparent investigation, right,
people who are you know Susan Collins is out right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Mean she's she's always gonna do She's always gonna play
the part of concerned senator who does fuck all when
it when when you know when it's time to do it,
when it's trying to get busy. But then you have
like Lisa Murkowski or Tom Tillis, like some of them
are retiring, so they're doing the oh, I'm going to
turn up because I'm not running for reelection anymore, so
(30:42):
watch me say things outside like breaking the lines with
the regime. Like James Comer, again, there's like a lot
of headlineser are like there are fractures on the right.
But I think people need to dial that back a
little bit. I would describe these as shook ones are
speaking out of turn, but with not much conviction. Because
James Comer said, quote, if I were President Trump, I
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would almost think about if the mayor and the governor
are going to put our ICE officials in harm's way
and there's a chance of losing more what we're seeing,
great description of what exactly exactly. Then then maybe go
to another city. So that was him kind of like, maybe,
I don't know, if not, I've tried to tow the line.
I think we're winning them over. Guys. Yeah, yeah, go
(31:26):
to another city.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Go to another city, try just do this again.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, and they keep saying like that they think Philadelphia
is going to be next, and every Philadelphia is like,
have you been to Philadelphia?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah? And also just.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Because yeah, you don't like to please don't. That's exactly
what Blake said when we're talking about this, because but
that's also terrifying, right because if they're built a little
bit differently, you can see the escalation happening there that
they're they're so desperate, the administration so desperately wants. Senator
(32:03):
Pete Rickots from Nebraska called the situation quote horrifying and
said that there should be a prioritize they should prioritize
a transparent investigation. But then he came back and said,
but my support for funding ICE has not changed. Yeah,
you know, so it's like the Republicans again, don't don't
worry about them. Even the ones you think are trying
to do something, they're not doing shit.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
They're yeah, they're just asking questions.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think again, when you look
at just even the pundits and the words of the
administration right now, there's it feels like the right wing
propaganda machine doesn't know which direction to pedal because there's
there's back pedaling on the on the subject, there's regular
(32:47):
pedaling just like it's maybe fine, we have to look
at the investigation first before we come to conclusion, and
then there's people straight pedaling more bullshit. So you're like,
I don't know, there's clearly not a unified mession messae
on how to do this. Like, for example, Benny Johnson,
a famous bullshit mouthpiece for the regime, was saying that
pretty was a paid agitator and terrorist who pulled the
(33:10):
gun on agents, so he was killed in self defense.
A lot of other right wing social media pundits whatever
Nazi freaks on Twitter or just saying like Preddi was
a terrorist, and they all tried to justify it by
claiming something happened that absolutely did not, which was that
he drew his weapon right, And everyone's like, bro, there's
(33:32):
none of nothing shows that at all. He didn't even
they disarmed him and then he was killed, so okay. Sure.
The administration seemingly has tried to cool the rhetoric, probably
because no one believes the fed's version of events, and
Trump's approval rating has him just firmly in the we
(33:52):
need to rig the midterms territory, which they were.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Trying to do, as we talked about on yesterday's episode.
They were like, we'll leave a nice city. You have
here be a sham off.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Something happened to it.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, we'll leave Minneapolis if you just give us all that,
give us the.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Data, give us the voter data now. And you're like,
what the fuck are y'all talking about, because again it's
not about immigration enforcement, even like it never was. Okay,
And so there's also the like spokespeople are backpedding. Caroline
Levitt broke ranks with Christy nom and Greg Bovino, and
she was like, look, the president hasn't has it. President
(34:29):
hasn't used the words domestic terrorists to describe this person
like these other two cabinet officials have and then she
said that Tom Holman would be the point person on
Minnesota operations, being both meaning Bovino and Nome are sidelined
in that sense, like if you want to. But Tom
Holman is the least articulate fucking person. He's like a
(34:51):
walking brain injury, and he's like, yeah, I think I
understand about He's like whoa, He's gonna get out there
and say who knows what. But that's where they're at
in terms of trying to reorient a bus for people
to be thrown under. Because I think Trump's also said
he posted on truth socials like I'm talking to Governor
Wills and we want this to be worked out. So
(35:14):
he's even taking the position of like, okay, let me
solve a problem, which again is very different than when uh,
you know, Renee Good was killed and was very much
like no, I don't know a time about No, that
was bad, and that's we're going to keep We're going
to keep moving forward. I think they've just lost steam
narratively to keep doing that without it becoming just even
more laughable. The Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche was on
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Fox and he was pressed about the hasty conclusion the
dj put out that pretty was a domestic terrorist, and
he even tried to pretend that this was a tragedy,
which was a little bit I was like, Oh, I
thought you're you're just gonna go all in on being
like no, no, no, that everything was done by the
letter of the law. But here's the Deputy ag talking
about it and trying to describe the killing as a
(35:57):
quote tragedy with all the respects are.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
My question is more pointed, do you believe your colleagues
may have gone farther? You are an attorney at DOJ
eighteen US Code twenty three thirty one. It has a
legal definition of domestic terrorism, and it doesn't appear to
most of the country that have watched the available video.
And we'll see if there's bodycam video. I'd love to
know if that's going to come out, if there was
(36:22):
such a thing, But it does not appear to have
met that definition of domestic terrorism. So I'm just sort
of wondering how you in the DOJ are viewing whether
your colleagues may have gone too far.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Look, I don't I don't think anybody thinks that they
were comparing what happened on Saturday to the legal definition
of domestic terrorism, first of all.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But they just use the phrase, the legal phrase. They
just use the legal definition of domestic terrorism to describe
him as like christin anyone thinks.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
That again, we said it, but we don't mean so.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Look, he tried it. He tried it, and now he's
going to try and pivot to be like, now you
are in.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
This, Joe, literally like, oh my god, you thought we
were being serious about.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
This because just because the head of Homeland Securities designated
someone as a domestic terrorist, do you think she's being
serious and using legal definitions?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Oh my god, Guys, at a time when like the
whole world's eyes was on this event and she came
through with that, you think we were being literal? Right? No, no, no, no,
It's called poetic license.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
This is how this is how he describes it. So
it wasn't domestic terrorism, So what is it?
Speaker 7 (37:29):
What we saw was a very violent altercation, and I
am not going to prejudge the facts. You're right, there's
a bunch of video that's out there. There's a bunch
of video that we haven't seen yet in the in
the minutes leading up to what happened, and in what
happened afterwards, and you're right to the extent there's bodycam
or other videos that that that witnesses are still providing
(37:49):
to us. So so I'm not describing it as anything
except for a tragedy.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
The video that I've seen like starts pretty early.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, you see them getting out of their cars, attacking
a woman and him coming up to try to protect.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That woman, like I don't know what, I don't even
like protect, not even like yo, like stop sucking, where
he's like, hey, are you okay? Let me help you
up these fuckers?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
You yeah, and then like how much early are we
gonna go? We're gonna see what do you have for breakfast?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Like well, no, go back about fourteen years to this
tweet I found or some ship or whatever they're.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Gonna that's exactly it, or his brother or his cousin
who is attached to the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
And again this is this is the same playbook they
run on black people, people other people of colored that
are killed by police, where it's like we already know
you killed an innocent person, and then you're gonna start
smearing them and you might find you might you might
find some out of context photo and be like well, look,
did you see that the guy had a mean look
in this picture. It's like, I don't know what the fuck.
It looks like a high school football photo. Have you
(38:56):
seen anybody in high school? They all try to look tough.
So another one is Judge Andrew Napolitano. He was on
Newsmax and he was straight up like, na, this is
a fucking murder. Which Napolitano he's he's like he does
the broken clock thing every now and then, like he's
not He'll he'll like be like, man, Trump's a fucking mess.
Other times will be caping for the cop like but
(39:18):
here's Andrew Napolitano on Newsmax though. This is his take
when the anchor's like, I don't know, what do you
think is going on here?
Speaker 5 (39:24):
In this particular case, they did remove his gun. I
understand them removing his gun if they're going to restrain him.
Then they shot him in the back while he was
on his belly on the ground. That's quote murder, and
that's an issue that the fans are going to have
to work with, and the state, once it gets the
the evidence in the case, is going to have.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
To work with. So to that, MAGA judge. He was like, uh,
I don't know. I'm like, it looks bad, guys. I
don't know. It's usually easier for me to defend law
enforcement for this kind of thing. But that's that' that's
kind of where things are. And I think it definitely
like it's weird for all of the bluster you see
(40:06):
out of the administration, they occasionally do the thing where
they act like the fucking puppy that shit all over
the carpet and it's like, oh, yes, and try and
sort of like be like, oh, we're trying to remedy
this or whatever. But I mean, at this point, I
don't know, no one should take any of the words
out of the administration seriously in terms of them acting
(40:27):
as if there's any regret or anything like that. It's
they're all just trying to manage the optics because they
don't want to come off as what they are, which
is a bloodthirsty regime that has what could care less
about anyone being killed if they're standing in the way and.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
They're trying to overthrow democracy. As we saw an hour
after the shooting, they were like, we'll leave if you
give us the vote, directors, and that probably feels like
a dead end to them at this point because there's
so much attention on that email like that they kind
of fucked that one up. So now they're maybe backpedaling
(41:01):
away from this particular battle to go do it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, but again, yeah, but again, I think, in the
wise words of Marjorie Taylor Green, we are being incited
into a civil war, you know what I mean. They
are trying every moment, every provocation from Ice is again
they want the pot to boil over and have mass
civil unrest so they can say, guys, look at what's happened.
(41:28):
We're not gonna have an election if this hit. Guys
are gonna act, yeah and straight up that is what
they're going to do, and then hope that people are
so worn down at that point that we don't press
back when they try and fully abscond with the entire thing.
I mean, they're probably about sixty percent complete here. Yeah,
but I think that's why, like I was saying on
(41:48):
Monday's episode, seeing the general strike in Minnesota should be
the beginnings of a pattern for how more cities are
going to respond collectively, because you know, obviously, like the
person to person confrontations help to delay things, but there's
something about the collective action too that will help. And
I think also kind of like really accepting the fact
(42:09):
that we can't really count on these legislators to help
us at the person level, and we all need to
begin using the skills that we have to community build
and to communicate and find like like minded people to
really begin to create those sort of structures that keep
us protected and looking out for each other, because, like,
you know, I see it all like in LA especially
(42:30):
after the fires, so many like so many different kinds
of mutual aid networks have propped up, and they're just
shifting gears. So like if you follow this one account,
they're now fully on like help this vendor who was
just kidnapped, help this family who like had someone taken away,
they need this, or that. Those things are existing and
you just got to find them and get involved. And
it's it's at least that it's the easiest way to
(42:51):
not feel fully fucking overwhelmed by everything that's happening, because
I completely understand what people are like, I don't even
I don't even know what to do. It's like that's
the fucking point that's they want everybody. I don't even
know what to do because everyone goes, okay, you want
to fuck with me, ben, Let me get together with
all my people and let me make sure everybody's good
on my side, because if if this is really about
protecting each other, then at least you know, you don't
(43:12):
have to get ready if you stay ready. Yeah. Hey,
there is more of us than there are of them.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, and again the doing is wildly unpopular.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
And their god is money, and their god is money.
Their god is money, their god is money. If you
fuck with their god, they start killing. Oh god, maybe
Greenland isn't a thing. Do you see what happened to
the bond market? Oh go, Because at the end of
the day, that's the one thing that these people think
will keep them from justice is wealth. I feel like
(43:43):
if I get rich enough, if I can, if I
can keep people three socioeconomic classes away from me, then
that I probably won't get touched. And that's and you
see that with all the greed that's happening these people.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
But those people aren't real, you know, the people who
are three economics socioeconomic classes below me, they're not Is
that real?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
They're just an.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Idea that I can easily dismiss in my head.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
It's the cast of the musical Oliver.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I think, all right, let's take a quick break and
then we'll be back to talk about another thing that
is giving people hope, which is the upcoming documentary about
our Queen, Milania.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Trump will be right back.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
And we're back, and just real quick. The same day,
on Saturday, the same day that Ice murdered another protester,
the White House hosted a fancy film screening the world
premiere of Amazon's Milania the documentary slash Obvious Bribe, directed
(44:56):
by Brett Ratner. When we say obvious bribe, referring to
the fact that Amazon paid forty million dollars YEP for
the rights for the right to put it on Amazon Prime,
yeah documentary, Yeah, forty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
You know what the total price tag of this fucking
thing you now is is seventy five million. Because Amazon
put thirty five million into marketing and distribution. They're trying
to put this thing everywhere. That's more than even the
Taylor Swift Eras documentary put into their Although I feel
like they don't have to spend shit to get them.
I don't know if that's good. That is that is
(45:36):
not how film film studios work. They don't know this
is already popular, so we're not gonna put money.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
They're like, oh, this is already popular, We're gonna put five.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Times the money into this.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Uh. They use like tracking data to see if like
people are interested in and then they just like triple
down until you know, the only thing you know is
that there's a third Avatar movie coming out.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, this we can always be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
We all know, we all know they're they're not stopping
during our life lifetime. But yeah, So they did this
at the White House because obviously they couldn't do it
anywhere else. They turned the White House into a red carpet,
brought in some top notch, washed up dirt bags such
(46:26):
as Tony Robbins, and then Mike Tyson was there, which
hurts my heart.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yes, I mean he's always been on yeah like.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
This, you know what, like Zoom CEO Eric Yanu and
Apple CEO Tim Cook also came like that, what the
fuck are people doing?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, well, I mean we know what they're doing, right,
They're just ensuring that their exit position is strong. Everyone
has everyone has an exit position. They're saying, well, how
do I survive right now? And how do I look
out the other end of this because if you're if
you're running a gigantic company Apple, He's like, well, the
line shuts fuck isn't going down, so I'm not going
(47:11):
to invite the ire of this administration. And that will
also help me build a bunker that is even deeper
in the Earth's surface to hide myself from the automated
guillotines that are developed for the world.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And they are so like motivate by bunkers. They do
of a bunker.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
They love a bunker.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
They love a islands, their house.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
On the island.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
They love, as we've discussed before, having conversations amongst each
other about whether you have to plan to shoot the
pilot who flies you in your family to the island
because otherwise he's going to go back at his family
and want some of your food, so you gotta you
gotta take him out.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
That's a real. That's a real.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
That's well from somebody who's like I am a VC
like multimillionaire in Silicon Valley. I'll tell you a conversation
I've heard not once many times. Yeah, among the people
up there is, so.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
They always they're always trying to figure that part out.
What do I do with the workers?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yes, and that is very classic.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, yeah, what I once I get, Once I get
what I need from them, I don't want to feed
them or protect them, So how do I do it?
And then like they'll just run all these fucking weird
thought experiments. But yeah, the like apparently, like Jeff Bezos
has himself was being like, you gotta make this fucking movie.
Do something. You gotta because again, like look, Tim Cook's there,
(48:44):
and obviously Jeff Bezos secured his position by being like, yeah,
I will pay, I don't care, just say a number,
how much money do you want me to give you,
and let's just exchange some kind of products. So it
seems like not a total grease payment, but it.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
We're gonna need some citizen journalists because they're gonna buy
a bunch of tickets. We're gonna need some citizen journalists
to go to these theaters and film the empty theaters
that are supposedly sold out.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, because I mean you think that's the thing is
like even the early ticket sales are low. I wonder
if they're gonna do that thing where they're like, well,
let's see what the people do before we fully fully
put our thumbs on this scale. I think that's what
they're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
But they're not going to let this be a total flop.
Yeah at least, like.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
They're dumb, but they're dumb and it will be and
they're not they're not going. They're not Like, if you're
really worried about it, you would have bought out all
the fucking at the beginning, Like it was one of
those human trafficking movies that there's qing on free stale
and they're just show up, bro, it's free tickets. It's
free tickets. But I just don't with this. It feels
like maybe they're trying to just see, like could off
(49:52):
the strength of the Nope, Nope, because all the projections
are like, dude, they're gonna be death fucking worth. Yeah,
you're gonna have gonna have fucking tumble weeds blowing down
the fucking aisles because it's gonna be so empty. But sure, sure,
there's like two documentaries ever that did well at the
box office. You know, there's been like Supersize Me and
(50:14):
Fahrenheit nine one one, Like those are holding for Columbine.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like and those movies make like, I
don't know, ten million dollars or something.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, yeah, not however much they put how much you
said they put into this thing.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Seventy five million. That's the bill they have. This needs
to make seventy five million plus a dollar for a
great considered a profit. It's just all it's all nonsense.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
So we'll wait and see.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, I will be. I'll be a waiting reviews of that.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Doesn't sound Does it sound like it's
gonna be that great that people have seen it? They're like,
I don't know, but sure, I guess it's a documentary.
I don't know. Do you want to talk about Brett Ratner?
Speaker 4 (50:53):
No, okay, fine, But anyways, in the same way that
the gestapo ice agents are keeping a data base of
names of people who take video of them, I feel
like we got to keep an eye on all the
people who like go to these sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Just be like, hey, we're and be like I want
to forget that. Yeah, you know, say, what the fuck
is wrong with you? Exactly? Did you think you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Yes, all right, Nicole, It's been such a pleasure having
you on the show Where Can People Find You? Follow
you all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
All my business is on the internet.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
You can follow me on social at either our ancestors
were messy, Uh, well you follow me there and at
Nicole with an H. So it's n I C H
O L E W T H and H. I've never
had to really like say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
It's not smooth.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, it's it's tough. You do it enough though, you'll
find a kid.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
But it's literally, like you know, when you have one
of those names.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I never thought about it until I talked to Nicole's
without Nature. They're like, I just say my name is Nicole.
I was like, I always have to say it's Nicole
with a name. It's like, literally my name.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
It's a classy the classy spelling.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Ooh thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I knew somebody named that. In high school we always
heard nicholl. Yes that yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying
and I am going to say it can't be the
New Malania documentary.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Oh my god, that was my thing though.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
No, you know, there's a Chilean protest song. I don't
know how to say it in Spanish. But in English
it's the people United will Never be defeated. And this
American composer, Frederick something did a performs this song in
thirty six variations and takes you through like the history
(52:44):
of the piano by just performing the song over and
over and over again. And I think I am one
variations eight. I'm like making my way through. I want
to listen to all of them. He put on a
concert and it was this huge cell laboratory, like like
protest moment. I think it was an early two thousands,
(53:06):
and I just love it. And I think at this moment,
it's just giving me some peace and some hope.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, you know we're gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
Hell yeah, Miles, where can people find you? And is
there a workimedia you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me
chatting sheet about the Premier League. Holy fuck Arsenals. That's
a real weird, weird result. And now the inner dude,
everyone hates that we're doing well. So the second it's
like the Celtics, right, like when the second the Celtics,
like when they were prime Celtics, and they Wow, I'm like,
(53:41):
that's kind of what's happening, and it's it's it's hard,
but you know what, I still believe. So check out
Ain't It Footy? That's the soccer show. And then also
ninety dight Fiance Talk is happening on four to twenty
day Fiance A work a media that I like. Yes,
it's pretty straightforward. This one is from at d l
y Be Scott at Social said, Bovino's haircut looks like
(54:02):
if A Karen designed a Mrken. Yeah, I'm having that.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Uh. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore
O Brian, Blue Sky Jack ob the number one Instagram
Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore Brian. I like to tweet from
somebody Hustelani Hustla Nanni h u s t l A
n A n I tweeted, sorry, I can't come. My
clothes looks stupid on me.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Oh oh arrive. I thought he meant sexual gratification.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
No, no, I just I can't come to your party
because my clothes looks stupid on me. You can find
us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to
the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes
is where we link off to the information that we
(54:54):
talked about in today's episode. We also link off to
a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is
there a song that you think that people might enjoy.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Let's go out on something nice and easy, just something
that feels soothing to hear. It's El Michael's Affair, which
is a great band, but with claro on the vocals.
The song is called Anticipate, and it just feels like,
you know, you can just kind of feel good listening
to some music right now, which I'm sure we all need.
So yeah, anticipate El Michael's Affair.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
Hey, speaking of something that you can feel good about.
We do have our two thousandth episode two thousandth coming
up a week from today today. Yeah yeah, and we
are asking you for your favorite memories, your predictions for
the next two thousand. We will link off to that
in the footnote or you can contribute, Yes, give us
(55:44):
your name.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
I now sit in the discord server, a lot of
people already replying directly to me and the discord over
which I love, which I love, But please use a
Google form that way we can put everything together because
we'd love to read off some of your favorite memories,
because honestly, Jack and I are like, we're like, what
if if we counted down our favorite memories and we
were like looking down, like.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
I don't remember what memories? I don't know any bus
jog memories. Yeah, so our listeners are so funny.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
So there are some fucking really good ones. Just people
reflexively fired off like as their favorite and I was
in an instant time machine. Oh my god. So I'm
again everybody who's participated. Thank you. If you're thinking about it,
please send us your favorite memory and predict your favorite
memory for the next two thousand episodes, because it'll help
your old grandpa's feel good. I hope your old grandpa
(56:35):
feel good.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Superprius are on a jsany I shared a picture from
the early days where we were recording with tinfoil hats on,
and I still don't That did not jog my memory
that I think it was with jackies.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
I feel like we've done tinfoil hats a few times,
have we? Yeah? Yeah, this is one that was really nice.
I just want to call this one. This from Cascady
in eighty three course sort of said, not a single
moment for me. But I seem to recall early on
the podcast someone commenting about how Jack and Miles seemingly
like we're good friends, and they said, yeah, we don't
really talk much outside of the podcast, and seeing them
go from co workers to friends over the years has
(57:12):
been really sweet.
Speaker 4 (57:13):
And I'm like, oh, close my heart. Yeah, we saw
them talk before or after we hit record.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
No, that's it. We keep it. Look, that's how you
keep a marriage, and I keep it. Separate beds, separate.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
Beds, all right. The Daily Zeik is a production of iHeartRadio.
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,
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going to do it for us this morning. We're back
this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we
will talk to you all then, bite, Bite.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Co produced by by Wang, co produced by Victor Wright,
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