April 27, 2026 • 17 mins
Guest Host George Knapp and Researcher Brad Olsen discuss Admiral Byrd's history in Antarctica as well as the possibility of Nazis in Antarctica.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Brad Olson. I'm not sure which of these various mysteries
about the Antarctica is what was the primary driver for you,
But it seems like the information about Nazi interest and
possible basis down there is really well documented and you
go into it. Can you tell me when the Germans
started looking at that continent and what we know for
(00:24):
sure about what facilities they may have had there?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Sure? Yeah, of course, there's a whole chapter called Nazis
and Antarctica in the new book. And they went down
there in nineteen thirty eight thirty nine on the ship
called Schwabinland, you know, famous. It's the most famous trip
the Germans made down there when they set up Base
(00:50):
two eleven. And I say most famous because after Schwabenland
and all through the war years of World War two,
they continued to make other trips down there, and they
were bringing a lot of materiel supplies and personnel. And
(01:13):
the way this is known is that the British had
spy stations on the Palmer Peninsula. I went and visited
two of them. One was called Port Lockroy, which is
now a museum and you walk in there and it's
just like it was when the British were spying on
the Germans, because remember they cracked the German code and EGMA,
(01:37):
and they could listen in on the banter between the
ships and the U boats and all the way back
to Berlin, and they knew that the Germans were bringing
in a whole bunch of stuff. So the British, for
their part, they attempted at one point to penetrate this
(01:59):
area of New Schwabenland and that team just went off
the radar. And one of the last things they said,
this was a magazine article in Nexus describing it, was
that they were being pursued by these Arctic icemen. And
what exactly that is I don't know, but it sounds
(02:20):
like they were perhaps genetically modified or some kind of
super soldier that pursued the British team and ultimately caught,
captured and killed them. Well, meanwhile, the British are sharing
their information with the Americans, and as soon as World
War Two was over, the US could waste no time
(02:42):
in mounting Operation high Jump. The very first Antarctic winter,
or I should say summer when it was winter up
here in nineteen forty six. In nineteen forty seven, Admer
Bird gave a very cryptic press conference right before he left,
and he said, our mission is military in nature, and
(03:05):
they did not expand on that. But that's quite strange
going down to Antarctica, and the cover story was they
were going to practice in cold weather climates and train
the troops post World War two. You'd think that they
could go to Greenland or perhaps Canada, because the road
(03:25):
to Alaska had just been completed, they could have done
their training in Nome, Alaska. But no, they have to
mount an enormous military expedition to New Schwabenland and also
to Little America, the base that was founded by Admiral
(03:46):
Byrd himself. And they go down there and the convoy
of ships splits into three groups. Two of those groups
converged on New Schwabenland and they were orders to try
to capture two flying Saucers. That's what the British had
(04:07):
determined that the Germans had brought down there. Probably a
lot more than two, but this was the orders to
seek and destroy any German base. This base two eleven
or a science city known as New Berlin, and this
information came from the Russians after World War Two, when
(04:31):
the Russians were the very first to get into Germany.
So they got the lion's share of intel out of
the different military factions, the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe and
the Wehrmacht. Took it back to Russia and they started
(04:51):
examining these files. So during the time that Admiral Byrd
was down there during High Jump, the Russians were also
mounting an expedition and they were following some directions on
U boat maps that they had captured from the Kriegsmarine
headquarters in Berlin, and they both saw each other. They
(05:13):
both knew they were there, but they were a bit
stand offish. And these maps are incredible, George, you've probably
seen them in the book where I reproduced them, which
show this under ice world that the German U boat
captains were exploring and discovering.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean, there's a lot of evidence that the Germans
were there, and you know, there's historical evidence that German
submarines carried high ranking Nazis out of Germany ended up
in Argentina, which is about as close to Antarctica as
you can get. And we know that for a fact
because so many of them were caught later on when
people went looking for Nazi war criminals. So it doesn't
(05:55):
seem completely out of the possibility that maybe some of
them ended up in Antarctica if they actually could find
a place warm enough to live. You think there are
places there under these giant nodules that are similar to
what we would call a hollow earth or some kind
of a temperate locations, environments where animals and plants and
(06:19):
people could live.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, that's correct. And I should point out that Antarctica
is the most volcanically active continent in the world. So
there's fourteen known active volcanoes and ninety three known geothermal
vent locations. One of those locations is called the Schumacher
Ponds that was discovered by a German pilot named Schumacher
(06:45):
who landed a seaplane into one of these lakes that
never freezes. It's called an Antarctica wasis. And there's more
than just the Schumacher Ponds. There's several other ones that
are warmed by this geothermal heat. So you think geothermal, Wow,
then you've got an energy source, you've got warm water,
(07:08):
and you've got a heat source. So the ability to
set up bases under the ice is not only probable,
it's where you'd want to do it. And the Germans
did just that. And it proves the locations in these
U boat maps that I've featured in the book.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, we know that there is a trail of a paper,
trail of documentation that the Nazis were interested in establishing
bases down there. And as you document, there are thousands
of Nazis that seemingly disappeared from Germany as the war
ended and the Nazis crumbled, And you think that that
is the real reason that Richard Bird atmal Bird was
(07:52):
sent down there leading this gigantic force American naval forces.
I should just remember remind people if you don't know
Admiral Byrd, I mean, he was an American hero. He'd
won the Medal of Honor, a whole bunch of different
major awards for valor. He was a heroic figure and explorer,
and he is put in charge of this venture, presumably
(08:15):
to look for Nazi bases to destroy him. But then
he's made all these cryptic statements afterward that suggests he
found a heck of a lot more than Germans.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah. And the most cryptic was when Operation high Jump
ended two months into the six month expedition, quite unexpectedly
and very rapidly, they just called it off. And when
Admiral Byrd's ship was refueling and resupplying in Chile, he
(08:48):
gave some interviews, one of which appeared in the L.
Mecurio newspaper in Santiago, Chile, in which he said that
he didn't want to alarm, but that we would face
an enemy that would be able to fly pole to
pole at incredible speeds. And that is still debated to
(09:10):
this day what exactly he meant, but surely it was.
And Admiral Byrd was a no nonsense kind of guy.
He wouldn't mince words. I think he meant what he said.
That they were already confronting these ships that came up
out of the water, out of ice caves. And there
(09:32):
was a battle, the Battle of high Jump, that occurred
off of New Chwaben Land in the icy, frigid water, where,
according to Russian documents that came out after the Cold War,
they had taken out one ship called the USS Murdoch
with what could be best described as a direct energy
(09:55):
weapon just sliced it in half, great loss of life,
while the men on board, if they survived, had to
go overboard and quickly succumb to hypothermia. And they also
took out just about all the planes that were involved
in Operation High Jump. And that's why they had to
get out of there quick because they knew they were
(10:16):
up against an enemy that they could not even shoot down.
It was a very one sided battle. And that's what
those planes or enemy that could fly pole to pole
in incredible speeds. And I would say that that's what
showed up in Washington, d C. A couple years later
during those flyovers in July nineteen fifty two, where you
(10:40):
see a dozen crafts slowly flying over the Capitol building.
It happened not once but twice four days later, and
they didn't shoot them down. They couldn't shoot them down.
And here you go, these are these craft that could
fly pole to pole in incredible speeds coming out of Antarctica,
showing us a force d jure that you can't do
(11:04):
anything about this. And so with Laura Eisenhower and one
of her whistleblowers named Dan Cooper, we've been able to
find some references that there was not really a surrender,
but certainly a truce that was forged with Harry Truman
(11:26):
in the summer of nineteen fifty two where we would
basically say, Okay, we know you can fly over the cap,
forking about it, but leave us alone down in Antarctica.
And that was the beginning of the Antarctica Treaty and
making these regions that are unable to be gone to
(11:48):
because the Germans are still there even multi generations years later.
I think they're still living in some of these under
ice colonies in Antarctica.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
George, you know, I had read a little bit about
Richard Byrd and his venture down there, and I was
never quite sure what to make of it. I saw
in your book something that caught my eye was James
Forrestall was the guy who ordered it, who authorized it.
And then, as you note, I mean, it's an incredible
number of resources that went along with the multiple ships,
(12:22):
thousands of US personnel, supposedly going to be a scientific
exploratory thing, and then two or three or several weeks
into it, maybe two months, they turned it all around.
It was supposed to be a much longer mission, right,
which is very strange.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Very strange and Bird and Forrestall were good buddies. They
were both high ranking Navy officers. And I show a
picture in the book of when Bird got back from
high Jump. He's presenting Forestall a stuffed penguin, and Forestall
(12:58):
he wanted to score. He want he thought the American
people deserve to know. But he was known of stalking
up and down the halls of the Pentagon shortly after
Bird got back, saying there's Nazis in Antarctica. They've got
chips that we can't shoot down. We don't know what
(13:18):
to do. World War two didn't end, and he was
committed to Bethez, the Naval hospital, where he was even
still talking to the doctors and nurses about this, and
then they suicided him. And it's said that James Forrestall
is the first casualty in the disclosure cover up.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I know, I've seen a lot of quotes from Admiral Bird.
It seems like everything he was would say publicly was
sort of enigmatic and vague, not real clear. Have you
come across statements from him or writings of his wherein
he gets really specific about what he saw.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And yeah, well, certainly when he got back. He was
read the Riot Act for talking to the journalists and
making that statement about flying pull to pull at incredible speeds.
He was putting quarantine.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He was.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Given a schooling, even though he was an American hero
who was the center of ticker tape parades from his
other voyages and flights, and he was basically forced to
sign non disclosure and a gag order that he would
not talk about what he saw down there, and for
(14:36):
the most part he was pretty quiet. We goes back
to Antarctica for the fifth and final time in Operation
Deep Freeze, and this mission was also military and nature.
And according to Captain Mark Richard, one of carry Cassidy's whistleblowers,
(14:56):
he has a book called Operation High Jump that I
bought at a UFO conference once, and it is mostly
military documents that he actually found a way to acquire
and republish. And in that he said that they had
(15:16):
worked out a deal with the Germans, and this is
after the flyover of DC, that the Germans would deliver
one of those UFOs that they wanted so badly, probably
an older generation clunky one, but they landed it on
a boat. The ship took it back to the US
right away bird returns and he gives this interview on
(15:40):
Long Jean's Watch, that black and white interview, and he
kept talking about this area beyond the poles, that future
generations will have the whole continent of Antarctica to explore,
especially beyond the poles. But George, there is nothing beyond
the poles. It's the large ice sheet called the Polar Plateau,
(16:02):
and in all four directions there's nothing but ice for
hundreds of miles. So what does he mean beyond the
poles unless he's referring to the giant hole in the ice,
which is about fifty miles away from the South Pole,
which he discovered on the first flight over the South
Pole in nineteen twenty nine. He goes back in high
(16:24):
jump in a plane and that's when he flew into
the hole. And this is the story in his very
famous diary, which is still in print, that was printed
after he died, also under mysterious circumstances, at the age
of sixty eight. He was in great shape, dies of
(16:45):
a heart attack in his bed, and a lot of
people don't know. His son was also a Navy officer
who accompanied his father on Operation High Jump. His son
some years later, nineteen eighty eight, was traveling by train
from Boston to Washington, d C. To give a keynote
(17:07):
speech about his father's accomplishments. They think he was going
to spill the beans on high Jump because he goes
missing off the train. He shows up a month later
dead in a Baltimore warehouse with a different set of
clothes on and missing shoe, and they say he just
(17:29):
died of dehydration and wandered off the train and ended
up dead in this Baltimore warehouse. But there were signs
that he was roughed up and probably told you're not
going to give that talk you want to give.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Brad Olson. I'm not sure which of these various mysteries
about the Antarctica is what was the primary driver for you,
But it seems like the information about Nazi interest and
possible basis down there is really well documented and you
go into it. Can you tell me when the Germans
started looking at that continent and what we know for
(00:24):
sure about what facilities they may have had there?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Sure? Yeah, of course, there's a whole chapter called Nazis
and Antarctica in the new book. And they went down
there in nineteen thirty eight thirty nine on the ship
called Schwabinland, you know, famous. It's the most famous trip
the Germans made down there when they set up Base
(00:50):
two eleven. And I say most famous because after Schwabenland
and all through the war years of World War two,
they continued to make other trips down there, and they
were bringing a lot of materiel supplies and personnel. And
(01:13):
the way this is known is that the British had
spy stations on the Palmer Peninsula. I went and visited
two of them. One was called Port Lockroy, which is
now a museum and you walk in there and it's
just like it was when the British were spying on
the Germans, because remember they cracked the German code and EGMA,
(01:37):
and they could listen in on the banter between the
ships and the U boats and all the way back
to Berlin, and they knew that the Germans were bringing
in a whole bunch of stuff. So the British, for
their part, they attempted at one point to penetrate this
(01:59):
area of New Schwabenland and that team just went off
the radar. And one of the last things they said,
this was a magazine article in Nexus describing it, was
that they were being pursued by these Arctic icemen. And
what exactly that is I don't know, but it sounds
(02:20):
like they were perhaps genetically modified or some kind of
super soldier that pursued the British team and ultimately caught,
captured and killed them. Well, meanwhile, the British are sharing
their information with the Americans, and as soon as World
War Two was over, the US could waste no time
(02:42):
in mounting Operation high Jump. The very first Antarctic winter,
or I should say summer when it was winter up
here in nineteen forty six. In nineteen forty seven, Admer
Bird gave a very cryptic press conference right before he left,
and he said, our mission is military in nature, and
(03:05):
they did not expand on that. But that's quite strange
going down to Antarctica, and the cover story was they
were going to practice in cold weather climates and train
the troops post World War two. You'd think that they
could go to Greenland or perhaps Canada, because the road
(03:25):
to Alaska had just been completed, they could have done
their training in Nome, Alaska. But no, they have to
mount an enormous military expedition to New Schwabenland and also
to Little America, the base that was founded by Admiral
(03:46):
Byrd himself. And they go down there and the convoy
of ships splits into three groups. Two of those groups
converged on New Schwabenland and they were orders to try
to capture two flying Saucers. That's what the British had
(04:07):
determined that the Germans had brought down there. Probably a
lot more than two, but this was the orders to
seek and destroy any German base. This base two eleven
or a science city known as New Berlin, and this
information came from the Russians after World War Two, when
(04:31):
the Russians were the very first to get into Germany.
So they got the lion's share of intel out of
the different military factions, the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe and
the Wehrmacht. Took it back to Russia and they started
(04:51):
examining these files. So during the time that Admiral Byrd
was down there during High Jump, the Russians were also
mounting an expedition and they were following some directions on
U boat maps that they had captured from the Kriegsmarine
headquarters in Berlin, and they both saw each other. They
(05:13):
both knew they were there, but they were a bit
stand offish. And these maps are incredible, George, you've probably
seen them in the book where I reproduced them, which
show this under ice world that the German U boat
captains were exploring and discovering.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean, there's a lot of evidence that the Germans
were there, and you know, there's historical evidence that German
submarines carried high ranking Nazis out of Germany ended up
in Argentina, which is about as close to Antarctica as
you can get. And we know that for a fact
because so many of them were caught later on when
people went looking for Nazi war criminals. So it doesn't
(05:55):
seem completely out of the possibility that maybe some of
them ended up in Antarctica if they actually could find
a place warm enough to live. You think there are
places there under these giant nodules that are similar to
what we would call a hollow earth or some kind
of a temperate locations, environments where animals and plants and
(06:19):
people could live.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, that's correct. And I should point out that Antarctica
is the most volcanically active continent in the world. So
there's fourteen known active volcanoes and ninety three known geothermal
vent locations. One of those locations is called the Schumacher
Ponds that was discovered by a German pilot named Schumacher
(06:45):
who landed a seaplane into one of these lakes that
never freezes. It's called an Antarctica wasis. And there's more
than just the Schumacher Ponds. There's several other ones that
are warmed by this geothermal heat. So you think geothermal, Wow,
then you've got an energy source, you've got warm water,
(07:08):
and you've got a heat source. So the ability to
set up bases under the ice is not only probable,
it's where you'd want to do it. And the Germans
did just that. And it proves the locations in these
U boat maps that I've featured in the book.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, we know that there is a trail of a paper,
trail of documentation that the Nazis were interested in establishing
bases down there. And as you document, there are thousands
of Nazis that seemingly disappeared from Germany as the war
ended and the Nazis crumbled, And you think that that
is the real reason that Richard Bird atmal Bird was
(07:52):
sent down there leading this gigantic force American naval forces.
I should just remember remind people if you don't know
Admiral Byrd, I mean, he was an American hero. He'd
won the Medal of Honor, a whole bunch of different
major awards for valor. He was a heroic figure and explorer,
and he is put in charge of this venture, presumably
(08:15):
to look for Nazi bases to destroy him. But then
he's made all these cryptic statements afterward that suggests he
found a heck of a lot more than Germans.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah. And the most cryptic was when Operation high Jump
ended two months into the six month expedition, quite unexpectedly
and very rapidly, they just called it off. And when
Admiral Byrd's ship was refueling and resupplying in Chile, he
(08:48):
gave some interviews, one of which appeared in the L.
Mecurio newspaper in Santiago, Chile, in which he said that
he didn't want to alarm, but that we would face
an enemy that would be able to fly pole to
pole at incredible speeds. And that is still debated to
(09:10):
this day what exactly he meant, but surely it was.
And Admiral Byrd was a no nonsense kind of guy.
He wouldn't mince words. I think he meant what he said.
That they were already confronting these ships that came up
out of the water, out of ice caves. And there
(09:32):
was a battle, the Battle of high Jump, that occurred
off of New Chwaben Land in the icy, frigid water, where,
according to Russian documents that came out after the Cold War,
they had taken out one ship called the USS Murdoch
with what could be best described as a direct energy
(09:55):
weapon just sliced it in half, great loss of life,
while the men on board, if they survived, had to
go overboard and quickly succumb to hypothermia. And they also
took out just about all the planes that were involved
in Operation High Jump. And that's why they had to
get out of there quick because they knew they were
(10:16):
up against an enemy that they could not even shoot down.
It was a very one sided battle. And that's what
those planes or enemy that could fly pole to pole
in incredible speeds. And I would say that that's what
showed up in Washington, d C. A couple years later
during those flyovers in July nineteen fifty two, where you
(10:40):
see a dozen crafts slowly flying over the Capitol building.
It happened not once but twice four days later, and
they didn't shoot them down. They couldn't shoot them down.
And here you go, these are these craft that could
fly pole to pole in incredible speeds coming out of Antarctica,
showing us a force d jure that you can't do
(11:04):
anything about this. And so with Laura Eisenhower and one
of her whistleblowers named Dan Cooper, we've been able to
find some references that there was not really a surrender,
but certainly a truce that was forged with Harry Truman
(11:26):
in the summer of nineteen fifty two where we would
basically say, Okay, we know you can fly over the cap,
forking about it, but leave us alone down in Antarctica.
And that was the beginning of the Antarctica Treaty and
making these regions that are unable to be gone to
(11:48):
because the Germans are still there even multi generations years later.
I think they're still living in some of these under
ice colonies in Antarctica.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
George, you know, I had read a little bit about
Richard Byrd and his venture down there, and I was
never quite sure what to make of it. I saw
in your book something that caught my eye was James
Forrestall was the guy who ordered it, who authorized it.
And then, as you note, I mean, it's an incredible
number of resources that went along with the multiple ships,
(12:22):
thousands of US personnel, supposedly going to be a scientific
exploratory thing, and then two or three or several weeks
into it, maybe two months, they turned it all around.
It was supposed to be a much longer mission, right,
which is very strange.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Very strange and Bird and Forrestall were good buddies. They
were both high ranking Navy officers. And I show a
picture in the book of when Bird got back from
high Jump. He's presenting Forestall a stuffed penguin, and Forestall
(12:58):
he wanted to score. He want he thought the American
people deserve to know. But he was known of stalking
up and down the halls of the Pentagon shortly after
Bird got back, saying there's Nazis in Antarctica. They've got
chips that we can't shoot down. We don't know what
(13:18):
to do. World War two didn't end, and he was
committed to Bethez, the Naval hospital, where he was even
still talking to the doctors and nurses about this, and
then they suicided him. And it's said that James Forrestall
is the first casualty in the disclosure cover up.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I know, I've seen a lot of quotes from Admiral Bird.
It seems like everything he was would say publicly was
sort of enigmatic and vague, not real clear. Have you
come across statements from him or writings of his wherein
he gets really specific about what he saw.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And yeah, well, certainly when he got back. He was
read the Riot Act for talking to the journalists and
making that statement about flying pull to pull at incredible speeds.
He was putting quarantine.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He was.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Given a schooling, even though he was an American hero
who was the center of ticker tape parades from his
other voyages and flights, and he was basically forced to
sign non disclosure and a gag order that he would
not talk about what he saw down there, and for
(14:36):
the most part he was pretty quiet. We goes back
to Antarctica for the fifth and final time in Operation
Deep Freeze, and this mission was also military and nature.
And according to Captain Mark Richard, one of carry Cassidy's whistleblowers,
(14:56):
he has a book called Operation High Jump that I
bought at a UFO conference once, and it is mostly
military documents that he actually found a way to acquire
and republish. And in that he said that they had
(15:16):
worked out a deal with the Germans, and this is
after the flyover of DC, that the Germans would deliver
one of those UFOs that they wanted so badly, probably
an older generation clunky one, but they landed it on
a boat. The ship took it back to the US
right away bird returns and he gives this interview on
(15:40):
Long Jean's Watch, that black and white interview, and he
kept talking about this area beyond the poles, that future
generations will have the whole continent of Antarctica to explore,
especially beyond the poles. But George, there is nothing beyond
the poles. It's the large ice sheet called the Polar Plateau,
(16:02):
and in all four directions there's nothing but ice for
hundreds of miles. So what does he mean beyond the
poles unless he's referring to the giant hole in the ice,
which is about fifty miles away from the South Pole,
which he discovered on the first flight over the South
Pole in nineteen twenty nine. He goes back in high
(16:24):
jump in a plane and that's when he flew into
the hole. And this is the story in his very
famous diary, which is still in print, that was printed
after he died, also under mysterious circumstances, at the age
of sixty eight. He was in great shape, dies of
(16:45):
a heart attack in his bed, and a lot of
people don't know. His son was also a Navy officer
who accompanied his father on Operation High Jump. His son
some years later, nineteen eighty eight, was traveling by train
from Boston to Washington, d C. To give a keynote
(17:07):
speech about his father's accomplishments. They think he was going
to spill the beans on high Jump because he goes
missing off the train. He shows up a month later
dead in a Baltimore warehouse with a different set of
clothes on and missing shoe, and they say he just
(17:29):
died of dehydration and wandered off the train and ended
up dead in this Baltimore warehouse. But there were signs
that he was roughed up and probably told you're not
going to give that talk you want to give.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
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