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January 17, 2026 16 mins

Guest host Rich Berra and astrologer Leslie McGuirk discuss how the alignment of planets and stars can influence our experiences and mood, why moon signs are more important that sun signs in the Zodiac, and how astrology can help give you a better understanding of people who have different views of the world than you do.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. My name is
rich bart And Leslie McGuirk is an astrologer and author
and a teacher who translates astrology into clear, practical guidance
for everyday life using a grounded approach. She explores astrology
as a system of pattern recognition, of recognition, excuse me

(00:26):
that helps people make sense of why they react, struggle
and behave the way they do. It is so nice
to meet you, Leslie. Welcome to Coast to Coast AM.
How are you.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm great, I'm excited to talk to you tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I have so many questions. Can we get right right
into them? Let's just get right into the heart of it.
Please do Why do you feel that some of us
seem like we are more connected, more I would say,
emotional about the things that go on in the world,
are maybe more sensitive to the world, where others don't
seem affected by it at all. Anything, everything's just the

(01:02):
way it normally is.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I think the majority of people feel extremely stressed out
right now. Everyone I'm talking to is feeling the effects
of what I believe are these planetary weather patterns. We
are definitely under the influence of those planets, which are
basically rocks in space, and some people think it's crazy
to imagine that those planets have.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
An influence on us.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
But all you have to do is think about the Moon.
You were just talking about a hotel being put on there,
which I think would you go never because the scenery
is boring.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
You could not very interesting. No, I would never have
any interest there.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
But that could be like like the broad More in
Colorado Springs, which every angle that you look at is gorgeous,
and then you're just spend million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, there's no there's no trees, there, no no beautiful
mountains to look at, so I would pass.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Thank you. I also sorry. So these planets, they have.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
A cycle that they go through, like the Moon, and
everyone knows that the moon is regulating every body of
water on planet Earth, and we're about eighty percent water,
so we are under the influence of those cycles of
the Moon and everyone feels them. All you have to
do is go to a hospital or police station or

(02:27):
a school. The animals react. My dogs are definitely more
activated during full moons. So if you extrapolate it out
to all the other rocks in space. They're all influencing us,
and I think that astrology is more about realizing the
patterns that these planets cause and how they are affecting

(02:51):
our timing, our temperament, our experiences. It's a lot like
music in that some people may act as if their
tone deaf and they don't care about music at all,
but most people will feel something when they listen to
certain types of music. Some music is very agitating and
some music calms down. And music is invisible, and astrology

(03:16):
is somewhat invisible as well. It's something that's interpreted and
it definitely has an influence on every single one of us,
especially right now.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's brutal what we're going through.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's interesting. So as sort of a curious skeptic, which
I'm kind of an open minded curious skeptic, so things
like psychics, I can kind of see through that a
little bit, especially being married to a wife whose family
grew up in magic, so they can point out the
scam to everything, except for there's something about astrology where

(03:52):
it's kind of like what I hear. What I've been
understanding as of late, is when you were born kind
of gives you the ingredients of why you are who
you are, or at least tendencies or the patterns that
you say that repeat. So it seems a lot less
woo woo, in a lot more just scientific.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
It is absolutely scientific, but it's an esoteric science.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's an interpreted science. Very similar to acupuncture. You could
go to twenty different acupuncturist and get a completely different result.
You can go to twenty astrologers get a different result,
but the principles are very similar in that we have
an electromagnetic body. We live in an electro magnetic universe.

(04:41):
When an acupuncturist is putting needles in you, they're trying
to recalibrate your chi and get you into alignment so
that you can flow.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
The same is exactly true with astrology. If done correctly,
all an astrologer is doing is honoring your firing system
and helping you to be aligned at the highest frequency possible. So,
if you think about it like music, as I said before,
we are born with a musical score and it's our

(05:14):
job to play it at the highest level possible. But
it's very difficult if you have a complicated musical score,
which would be a very gnarly astrology chart, which is what.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I was born with and I'm a cancer.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay, but it doesn't tell you enough that. This is
the problem with most people who talk about astrology. They
want to know your sun's sign. Knowing your sun sign
is like asking, Okay, I drive a Ford, but are
you driving a Mustang? Are you driving an F one fifty?
There's not enough information there. What we really should be

(05:54):
asking is what is your moon sign? Because your moon
sign is going to tell me a lot more about
what you're like at an emotional level.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
See the reason.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I've never heard that before. I've always I've always heard
the what so I'm a Pisces, and oh, well, you
must be emotional and i'm and I'm very music driven.
I mean, that's my whole life is music, playing music,
listening to music. And when you I even would when
I used to get before I was married, when I
would date, if people didn't like the same music as me,
I'd almost think there was something wrong with them. I'd

(06:25):
look at that as like, oh, that's a red flag
that they if they don't get emotional hearing Peter Gabriel
in your eyes, then they are dead to the world.
But you know, some people don't feel that the way
other people feel that.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's a beautiful analogy for understanding astrology because since you
love music, there's in music, there's the staff, correct, and
then you plug those musical notes into that system.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Mm hmm okay.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
In astrology, we have a wheel which is basically like
the aperture and your camera, and we take a picture
of where all the planets are at the moment you
take your first breath, and we plug those planets into
the wheel, which is just a circle three hundred and
sixty degrees. It's divided into twelve different segments, and then

(07:12):
these planets PLoP into this system, and an astrologer is
basically playing your piece of music. So you get to
hear with words, how you were designed, what your pattern is,
what your frequency is, and it's nothing more or less
than that. But it's incredibly accurate esoteric science, and if done.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Correctly, what it does is it gives.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
People a sense to finally be seen and that they realize,
oh my gosh, I'm not crazy. Yes, I'm a Pisce's
but if your moon is insagittarius, it means that you're
not as emotional as a Pisce's person because think about it,
moon regulates water, so tears or water. That's why the

(07:56):
moon is connected with emotions. But if it's in a
fire sign likee Vegittarius or Ares, then fire evaporates water.
People who have those placements tend to want to evaporate
tears and get rid of the emotions. So that's why
I believe that knowing your moon sign is way more
important than knowing your sun sign.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
When you look at people in how they are, how
they are, like whether you're I don't know a person
that's emotional or maybe you're slightly ocd. How much of
that do you feel like has to do with when
you were born in how much of it has to
do with just you know, the neighborhood you grew up in,
the the you know how your parents treated you, if

(08:40):
you have brothers and sisters. How much of it is
I don't know, trauma response from your life in how
much of it is you just are how you are.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
It's a combination of both.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
So I like to look at people as if they're cars,
and we are given an owner's manual in your car
glove compartment that tells you how best to operate that vehicle.
Astrology is exactly the same. It's just the owner's manual,
not just it's a big deal to know that we
actually have an owner's manual.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
What an incredibly beautiful thing on this planet.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
To know we have such a thing. Most people don't
understand it as that. They think of it more as
fortune telling. That owner's manual cannot predict the future, but
if you look at it one way, it sort of does.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Because if I see that you're a.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Diesel engine and you tell me you're putting gas in
your car, I can predict you're going to break down.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
But when we.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Look at astrology as a owner's manual, you have free will.
You can do whatever you want with what I tell
you is in your glove compartment owner's manual.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
So you're driving your own car.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
And then you also have to deal with all the
other people on the highway of life. Not only do
we have to deal with other people like family members
and their charts and how they influence us, but then
you also have the weather because every day, hey, the
planets are moving, and we live in this electromagnetic universe,
so those other planets are also affecting us as we

(10:08):
drive down the highway. So it is all about having
free will, and it can be somewhat predictive, but I
don't like to use astrology that way, although if I
see a certain pattern, for example, in my chart. For
the last several years, I have been dealing with Uranus,

(10:28):
the planet of unexpected events. It's been in the sign
of Taurus, and it was landing right on my emotions,
right on my body because my moon and my Mars
are both in tours. So I knew that I was
going to be living under incredible stress. Because Urinus is
like having a lightning bult come out of the sky,

(10:50):
or it could be like instantly winning a lottery. We
don't know if it's going to be unexpected good or
unexpected bad. But when we know that this pattern is,
it's very important to work with that energy rather than
fight it.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
So I started to do a lot more yoga, a.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Lot more gardening, anything I could do to counteract the
high frequency of that Uranian energy.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You said, you're okay, so you talked about your moon,
but then you talked about your Mars too. That matters
as well.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah, well, the inner planet. So there's the sun, which
tells me what kind of car you are, what brand
you are. The moon tells me how you react with
your emotion. So when I'm teaching a live class, I
move people around the room according to their moon signs,
and all the fire moon people go on one side
of the room, all the air people go another place.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
And then there's water and earth.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Now, water and earth get along really well because in
nature they like each other. A plant needs water, the
ocean meets the shore, the lake is inside the earth.
They're cool together. Fire and air love each other. You
can't have a fire in the fireplace without oxygen. So
when I move people around the room, I asked them, all, right,
there's we just got stuck in an elevator, and how

(12:08):
are you going to react? That is a very emotional
experience for some people. The fire people all say things like, well,
we're going to take action, We're going to figure out
how to get out of here. The air people will
go up into a tree like a bird and sort
of analyze the situation calmly. Those people make great EMTs

(12:30):
and doctors because they have an air like approach to emotions,
which means they're a little bit more removed from being
overly traumatized.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Then that.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's not that simple.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I would love to have a moon air person do
my taxes or handle me when I'm super upset. So
my Moon is in tour, so I'm in the Earth
side of the room, and we tend to get emotional
and we need to figure out how to get out

(13:08):
of the situation now, but we wouldn't do it in
the way that a fire person does. The earth people
they want to hold their emotions, so that means they
do not want to be talked out of how they're feeling.
And same thing with the moon and water people. They
are very emotional, and that's how you can understand compatibility

(13:30):
and not be upset with people who are different than you.
So I call astrology the language of compassion, because when
you have people like I can't have as many as
one hundred people in a room when I'm teaching in groups,
and when the fire people hear how the water and
earth people are dealing with an emotional situation, they can't

(13:51):
believe it because everyone believes that everyone should be exactly
like them, and it doesn't work that way when they don't.
That's what you just said about the people with the
music taste, like, how can you not like that? It's
a very emotional thing for you because you love it
and when you see people not getting it, they're just

(14:14):
not coming from the same place. And astrology would explain that,
and I would say that if somebody doesn't react the
way you do with the music that.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
You love, it would be difficult for you to be.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Married to that person because you're just coming from a
different side of and not that it's good or bad,
it's just different.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
There is something too that I remember playing something for
my wife Stacy when we were dating, and she started crying.
I'm like, oh, okay, it's a good fits exactly because
she was feeling it too, and I'm like, okay, that's
a match. I wonder with what you know? Are you
pretty good at matching up couples.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, it's one of my favorite things to do because
I can save people from so much heartache.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yes, you can see.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
So we have to have a few things covered when
it comes to relationships. Forget about sun sign compatibility. That's
not going to tell you enough. It's interesting, it's fun,
but it's not deep enough. We want to look at
moon sign compatibility. Are you emotionally going to be okay.
So because I'm on the water earth side of things,

(15:22):
I have a better chance of success with a partner
who has something in that those two categories. Otherwise, if
I'm with someone who has their moon in air, this
is what it's going to feel like. And I tell
this to couples all the time. If they have this,
I say, you're like a little If you're an earth
moon person like me, you're like a little puppy dog

(15:43):
at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Of a tree.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
And if your partner has their moon and air, they're
like a bird up in the tree and you're trying
to get them to come down and play with you,
and the bird is looking at you, like, what are
you talking about?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's not what I do.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I'm up here observing everything from a higher perve. And
it's not that the bird is wrong or the puppy
is wrong. They're just completely different in how they are
going to approach their emotions. And when you look at
it that way, it brings so much peace.

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