May 9, 2026 • 19 mins
Guest host Connie Willis and researcher Mike Paterson discuss his ongoing search for Bigfoot in an undisclosed region of Ontario Canada, his interaction and communication with the creature Nef in the wild, and if there is any connection between Bigfoot and a UFO he sighted while in the woods.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We've got Mike Patterson back with us. Always good to
hear from him and hear about NEF and hear what's
new with his Sasquatch adventures up there with Sasquatch Ontario.
That's where you can find him. He's a good friend
of mine, also just a fellow researcher, the real deal.
He's got incredible evidence. Those of you that are into evidence,
(00:25):
some of y'all have to have evidence before you believe it.
It's hard to believe your fellow person. I guess you
can usually tell if somebody has seen one, especially if
you've seen one before, you already know some of the
behaviors and things like that. But I think some of
you all could probably tell if someone saw something that
they just could not explain, and their white face and
(00:48):
their white body, or maybe it's not white, but whatever
it is, you can tell from their attitude from their
face if they've just seen something. So sometimes you just
don't have the evidence to prove it. So Mike Patterson
back to us again. Thanks Mike for being here. I
know you always head out to check for NEF. Whenever
(01:11):
you can. So thanks that you gave us a Friday night.
We've been trying to get you for a while, and
I know that you have some new things happening. In fact,
one of your new things is you have an actual book,
and people have been asking for that for a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hey, Connie, how are you? Thanks for having me? Yeah,
as far as the book goes, you know, it's been
over a decade in the making, basically, and you know,
I took the winter to really delve into that and
get that finished. And I'm you know, I'm pleased with it.
(01:45):
I feel pretty good about it. And you know, it's
written from a perspective of ongoing long term contact experience,
so it has a lot of insight into the truth
and reality of sasquad. And you know, it's written from
a perspective that I think is probably very unique in
(02:05):
that genre.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, let me ask you this, since this is this
is the day that we've got all this UFO information,
I have my thoughts about it. I know a lot
of other people have. Everybody's got a thought about it,
for sure, But what about your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You and I both research and investigate all sorts of things,
but when I've done the Bigfoot things, I've seen the
UFOs around, have you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, as far as government is concerned with
this whole disclosure thing, I don't need I don't need
government to tell anything.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right, It's uh, I don't need to tell me there's
there's UFOs or not, right. I mean, I don't need that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, it's you know, it's something you can actually go out.
And I've learned through firsthand experience with a with a
witness that we had one incident where this was in
the fall of twenty twenty four. We were at his
cabin up Lost Channel area, just about an hour from
(03:12):
Perry Sound here in Ontario, and we did a C
five protocol, which is basically a meditation protocol for calling
in ships, and it worked and we had this bright
orb flying through the sky towards us. You know, it
just kind of showed up and we're like, what the
(03:32):
hell's that? And as it flew over top of us,
we saw that there was a hall attached to it.
You know, this was a night right. We saw that
there was a hall attached this to this front end
orb and it looked as soon as they knew that,
we saw that they lit up the back end basically,
so it was this. It looked like an elongated cigar
(03:56):
shaped ship, maybe a bit the size of a football
field roughly could have been bigger, and it was completely silent,
flew right over top of us, It wasn't wasn't very high,
and it flew over a little piece of the lake
right beside us, and then went and parked in the
sky looking like a star for bed an hour before
it was gone. And uh, you know, that's not the
(04:18):
only incident I've had, but it is the only one
that I've had where I've used a meditation protocol to
actually call one in it works.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, do you feel that something people should do or
should they stay away from that?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, I take it it's your intention. You know what's
your intention towards it? Are you? Are you just doing
it for you know, for a joke, then I wouldn't
you know, if you're if you're serious about it, and
you're you're looking for that sort of thing, and and
you know you're you have good intention and your your
(04:57):
heart's in the right place, then I'm sure why not.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I've definitely seen him around the Sasquatch, and I
mean I've just seen them together several times, so I
don't know if they're friends, but they certainly know each other.
I don't know if they just worked together or what,
or hang out, but I've certainly seen them together. And
we're going to be talking more about UFOs and what
was released today in open lines, so I hope that
(05:25):
you guys can call in that's never called in before
and talk about it and tell us what you think.
Going back to you, Mike and looking for Bigfoot and
finding Sasquatch and many other things that you've done. I
didn't realize this about you when I first recognized you.
I just remember this YouTube channel. This rain was falling
(05:46):
throughout the day onto a tent and a man was
speaking to what was outside, and that was you. And
I just fell in love with your whole demeanor of
it and your perspective of it and the way you
showed it very nice, very peaceful. And I didn't realize
that you had an epiphany beforehand, and that's that's how
(06:10):
you got into it, doing like wildlife photography, Is that right?
What happened there?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I was well first, you know, when I first started this,
I was doing pretty much what most people do going
banging around on trees and putting up trail cams that
sort of thing, right, But as.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, you stopped that at one point, right, Sorry, I
said you stopped that at one point. Once you start
doing it, you're like, oh, let's stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, you evolved with the situation, right. But it was
back in probably two thousand and seven when I was
spending my spare time in the woods with a camera.
I bought some good camera gear, taught myself photography, and
I'm a nature guy, so it was, you know, weekends off,
I'm in the woods with the camera and considering what
(07:05):
I've experienced to this up to this point, I would
say I was being watched closely, and I think they
liked what they saw as far as how I interacted
with nature. And suddenly I get this epiphany to start
looking for sasquatch. And you know, I didn't really have
(07:25):
that on my mind at all at the time when
it first started, right, So that kind of just come
out of nowhere. But I've had experiences over the years
that have shown me they are capable of some pretty
incredible stuff, and that includes, you know, some in depth
(07:48):
mind stuff, you know, consciousness, right, they're very evolved as
far as consciousness is concerned.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The very first thing they said to me is we're
highly advanced and we're everywhere. Sound about right.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I can believe that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I know it. That's what they gave me. I'm like, look,
I would have never made that up. I would have
never thought about that. I would have never put that
into any vocabulary whatsoever, not even knowing anything about him.
And that was just amazing. We're highly advanced and we're everywhere,
and it was like, wow, they just talked to me.
It was great, It was fabulous, And.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
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is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine
years old now, was suffering with not just one or
two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts
all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability
to really function.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to
right epic Tis book. Actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can
see that it would work.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And so at what point did you see that there
was a actually improvement is really going to work.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller,
and then going down to the with just little red monks.
The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's
you know one that size for Warner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see them
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
It's great to see.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm so happy and.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, confident, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
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Speaker 4 (09:29):
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Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, this is awesome.
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Speaker 2 (09:54):
Before we get any deeper into some of the other things, though,
you got a book out. This is like you know,
a lot of people wanted to get a book from you.
They wanted to see it down in writing so that
they can read it for themselves along the way. And
now we have the Invisible Giant, the true story of
Sasquat's contact by you.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's on Amazon, and I'll tell you something. This
is I was given a message after I put this out,
I was given a message from them, and it you know,
it upset me at first because I was thinking, oh,
maybe I'll get you know, a bit of a residual
income from this, right, And it's never been about the money, right,
(10:35):
It's always been about progressing the experience and learning and
evolving the relationship building on that. But I got a
message from them. They basically told me they don't want
me profiting from this, and you know, I was. I
was a bit upset at first, you know, because I
(10:59):
put so much effort into that, right, and then somebody
had a talk with me and their words really struck
struck with me. So I basically I went on Amazon
and I put it as low as I'm legally allowed
to or maybe not legally, but as low as Amazon
(11:21):
will allow me to put the price. That's it. So
it's basically it's a nonprofit book. It's it's not expensive,
so it's for anybody, you know and everybody, and I
hope the whole world reads it because there's a lot
of good knowledge and information and first hand experience in
that and it really delves into the the truth of
(11:44):
this subject and bypasses the decades and decades of physical construct.
You know that that people attached to that, you know,
they have a difficult time getting passed. So this book
really opens your eyes and gives you a different perspective.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Invisible Giant, a true story of Sasquatch contact. You can
go to Amazon to find that and you'll get it
very very cheap, very very inexpensive. So eighteen year journey.
You've been doing this and it began with the Wildlife
photography in two thousand and seven. Something happened in two
thousand and eight, a major vocal encounter. We all know it,
(12:29):
but want to hear from you again on that.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I had made a comment on a YouTube video and
some guy reached out to me and said, hey, you
want to go to a location a previous activity. And
when he told me the location, you know it was
local to basically, you know, close enough for me to
drive to you. Right when he mentioned the location, I
(12:54):
was extremely skeptical, you know, because I'm new, right, I'm
thinking West coast, you got to go out to BC
or whatever, you know, somewhere on the west coast Oregon
or But when he told me this location, I back
(13:16):
and forth with this guy for a little bit and
then it ended up being we met up in October
of two thousand and eight. It was October twenty fifth,
two thousand and eight, and we went into this spot
and you know, there's there's a lot of woods around there,
but there's there's homes bordering the perimeter. You know, the
(13:37):
woods are cut into concessions. There's roughly about five thousand acres.
They say protected, but they still log them. So we
went in there and this guy's kind of showing me
the ropes and first time i'd met him. And four
and a half hours later, he picks up this fist
sized rock. He walks up to this big pine tree
(13:58):
and he smacks it a few times, drops the rock,
and then suddenly I hear what sounds exactly like a
gorilla chest thump. And I'm pretty good with my sounds
in the woods, right, and it struck me so odd,
and I remember put my arm up just basically saying,
you know, be quiet, like listen, and just a few
(14:20):
seconds later, these giant, massive guttural whoops. They were they're
very raspy, and and he sounded ten feet tall and
he was close. And I remember there's this lady walking
her dog and she came around walking around the corner
right after that happened, and so she was closer than
(14:42):
we were, and she had this scowl on her face
as she walked past us. You know, we just kind
of nodded, you know, we're in the midst of this
close vocal encounter from a sasquatch. And when when you
hear this, there's nothing else it can be. It's just cut,
cut and dry. It's like black and white. It's you know,
(15:03):
you can tell easily.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So that that moment changed my life and put me
on this journey. And it was the very next week
I actually went back up there by myself and I
ran into them again, hearing that exact same chest thump
call again. And that is the first time, which was
(15:27):
very quick actually, that I had my first bout of
high strangeness. So right after that, the very next weekend,
I went back up there. I had that same chest
stump sound. It was a triple chest stump, really rapid,
and next thing I know, I'm I don't know, twenty
twenty five minutes maybe not a half hour down the
(15:51):
road on, you know, driving home, not realizing how I
got there. You know, I wasn't disoriented or anything like that.
I felt normal, Everything felt fine. But I just kind
of gave my head a shake and I thought, what
the hell am I doing here? I was just back
there in the woods. So that was you know that
that came on pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow, that did come on pretty quick for that. What
what's that area?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'd rather not.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You want to say, you don't want to say. Okay, okay, okay,
it's it's not in the book you talk about. Is
it Cowartha Lynx.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
The Cortha Lakes, Cortha Lakes region, that's that's basically cottage country.
That's where I go to, uh visit Nef's family basically.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Okay, okay, So I was thinking it was that way. Okay,
I got you. No, it's a good idea, never to
give up your area. People will go in and mess
up the relationships. It's all about a relationship, and you've
been really, really good with that. Let me just ask
you were talking about one of the sounds that you
had first or is that one of the audio clips
(17:02):
that we have.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, I know that whoop, the triple Whoop call. I
wasn't doing any recording at that time because I have
basically just started right.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
So, yeah, Well, you catch the bug really quickly when
you hear something authentic or see something authentic, And yeah,
what are your thoughts about authenticity when it comes to this.
You know, there's always people that say, well, you know,
it's got to be somebody like this, this or this
(17:33):
to tell me that this is real, not just some
bumpkin in the mountains or something like that, which drives
me crazy because some of the best mountain people in
the world, Hey, they have incredible relationships ongoing with these
beans and they just don't say anything.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
You know, a lot of people look to science to
give them their answers right now. I delve into that
in my book a bit about it's involved in this subject,
and I had I had the support of John Binder,
Nagel and Dimitria, but Bayanov, I think that's how you
say his last name, Russian anthropologists. Basically both of them
(18:13):
have passed on. You know, they were up there in years, right,
but both both supported my efforts, and both were not
on the side of the the paranormal side, but they
were open minded about it. And you know, by the
time they both passed on, they they were they knew
(18:37):
there was stuff going on, you know, because I didn't
hold back, you know, I didn't hold back speaking about
sasquatch abilities, and and both of them told me to, uh,
you know, tone it down. We got to have them
discovered first before we you know, take that next leap, right,
(18:57):
And I just couldn't do that. So it's like to
you know, too little, too late. I'll be six feet
under by the time science catches up. So a lot
of people, they do, they look to science for the
answers when actually a lot of us out in the
field know a lot more than science about this subject,
(19:18):
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We've got Mike Patterson back with us. Always good to
hear from him and hear about NEF and hear what's
new with his Sasquatch adventures up there with Sasquatch Ontario.
That's where you can find him. He's a good friend
of mine, also just a fellow researcher, the real deal.
He's got incredible evidence. Those of you that are into evidence,
(00:25):
some of y'all have to have evidence before you believe it.
It's hard to believe your fellow person. I guess you
can usually tell if somebody has seen one, especially if
you've seen one before, you already know some of the
behaviors and things like that. But I think some of
you all could probably tell if someone saw something that
they just could not explain, and their white face and
(00:48):
their white body, or maybe it's not white, but whatever
it is, you can tell from their attitude from their
face if they've just seen something. So sometimes you just
don't have the evidence to prove it. So Mike Patterson
back to us again. Thanks Mike for being here. I
know you always head out to check for NEF. Whenever
(01:11):
you can. So thanks that you gave us a Friday night.
We've been trying to get you for a while, and
I know that you have some new things happening. In fact,
one of your new things is you have an actual book,
and people have been asking for that for a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hey, Connie, how are you? Thanks for having me? Yeah,
as far as the book goes, you know, it's been
over a decade in the making, basically, and you know,
I took the winter to really delve into that and
get that finished. And I'm you know, I'm pleased with it.
(01:45):
I feel pretty good about it. And you know, it's
written from a perspective of ongoing long term contact experience,
so it has a lot of insight into the truth
and reality of sasquad. And you know, it's written from
a perspective that I think is probably very unique in
(02:05):
that genre.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, let me ask you this, since this is this
is the day that we've got all this UFO information,
I have my thoughts about it. I know a lot
of other people have. Everybody's got a thought about it,
for sure, But what about your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You and I both research and investigate all sorts of things,
but when I've done the Bigfoot things, I've seen the
UFOs around, have you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, as far as government is concerned with
this whole disclosure thing, I don't need I don't need
government to tell anything.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right, It's uh, I don't need to tell me there's
there's UFOs or not, right. I mean, I don't need that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, it's you know, it's something you can actually go out.
And I've learned through firsthand experience with a with a
witness that we had one incident where this was in
the fall of twenty twenty four. We were at his
cabin up Lost Channel area, just about an hour from
(03:12):
Perry Sound here in Ontario, and we did a C
five protocol, which is basically a meditation protocol for calling
in ships, and it worked and we had this bright
orb flying through the sky towards us. You know, it
just kind of showed up and we're like, what the
(03:32):
hell's that? And as it flew over top of us,
we saw that there was a hall attached to it.
You know, this was a night right. We saw that
there was a hall attached this to this front end
orb and it looked as soon as they knew that,
we saw that they lit up the back end basically,
so it was this. It looked like an elongated cigar
(03:56):
shaped ship, maybe a bit the size of a football
field roughly could have been bigger, and it was completely silent,
flew right over top of us, It wasn't wasn't very high,
and it flew over a little piece of the lake
right beside us, and then went and parked in the
sky looking like a star for bed an hour before
it was gone. And uh, you know, that's not the
(04:18):
only incident I've had, but it is the only one
that I've had where I've used a meditation protocol to
actually call one in it works.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, do you feel that something people should do or
should they stay away from that?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, I take it it's your intention. You know what's
your intention towards it? Are you? Are you just doing
it for you know, for a joke, then I wouldn't
you know, if you're if you're serious about it, and
you're you're looking for that sort of thing, and and
you know you're you have good intention and your your
(04:57):
heart's in the right place, then I'm sure why not.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I've definitely seen him around the Sasquatch, and I
mean I've just seen them together several times, so I
don't know if they're friends, but they certainly know each other.
I don't know if they just worked together or what,
or hang out, but I've certainly seen them together. And
we're going to be talking more about UFOs and what
was released today in open lines, so I hope that
(05:25):
you guys can call in that's never called in before
and talk about it and tell us what you think.
Going back to you, Mike and looking for Bigfoot and
finding Sasquatch and many other things that you've done. I
didn't realize this about you when I first recognized you.
I just remember this YouTube channel. This rain was falling
(05:46):
throughout the day onto a tent and a man was
speaking to what was outside, and that was you. And
I just fell in love with your whole demeanor of
it and your perspective of it and the way you
showed it very nice, very peaceful. And I didn't realize
that you had an epiphany beforehand, and that's that's how
(06:10):
you got into it, doing like wildlife photography, Is that right?
What happened there?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I was well first, you know, when I first started this,
I was doing pretty much what most people do going
banging around on trees and putting up trail cams that
sort of thing, right, But as.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, you stopped that at one point, right, Sorry, I
said you stopped that at one point. Once you start
doing it, you're like, oh, let's stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, you evolved with the situation, right. But it was
back in probably two thousand and seven when I was
spending my spare time in the woods with a camera.
I bought some good camera gear, taught myself photography, and
I'm a nature guy, so it was, you know, weekends off,
I'm in the woods with the camera and considering what
(07:05):
I've experienced to this up to this point, I would
say I was being watched closely, and I think they
liked what they saw as far as how I interacted
with nature. And suddenly I get this epiphany to start
looking for sasquatch. And you know, I didn't really have
(07:25):
that on my mind at all at the time when
it first started, right, So that kind of just come
out of nowhere. But I've had experiences over the years
that have shown me they are capable of some pretty
incredible stuff, and that includes, you know, some in depth
(07:48):
mind stuff, you know, consciousness, right, they're very evolved as
far as consciousness is concerned.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The very first thing they said to me is we're
highly advanced and we're everywhere. Sound about right.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I can believe that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I know it. That's what they gave me. I'm like, look,
I would have never made that up. I would have
never thought about that. I would have never put that
into any vocabulary whatsoever, not even knowing anything about him.
And that was just amazing. We're highly advanced and we're everywhere,
and it was like, wow, they just talked to me.
It was great, It was fabulous, And.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I know you're gonna want some after hearing this. This
is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine
years old now, was suffering with not just one or
two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts
all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability
to really function.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to
right epic Tis book. Actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can
see that it would work.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And so at what point did you see that there
was a actually improvement is really going to work.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller,
and then going down to the with just little red monks.
The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's
you know one that size for Warner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see them
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
It's great to see.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm so happy and.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, confident, absolutely wonderful.
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Speaker 2 (09:54):
Before we get any deeper into some of the other things, though,
you got a book out. This is like you know,
a lot of people wanted to get a book from you.
They wanted to see it down in writing so that
they can read it for themselves along the way. And
now we have the Invisible Giant, the true story of
Sasquat's contact by you.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's on Amazon, and I'll tell you something. This
is I was given a message after I put this out,
I was given a message from them, and it you know,
it upset me at first because I was thinking, oh,
maybe I'll get you know, a bit of a residual
income from this, right, And it's never been about the money, right,
(10:35):
It's always been about progressing the experience and learning and
evolving the relationship building on that. But I got a
message from them. They basically told me they don't want
me profiting from this, and you know, I was. I
was a bit upset at first, you know, because I
(10:59):
put so much effort into that, right, and then somebody
had a talk with me and their words really struck
struck with me. So I basically I went on Amazon
and I put it as low as I'm legally allowed
to or maybe not legally, but as low as Amazon
(11:21):
will allow me to put the price. That's it. So
it's basically it's a nonprofit book. It's it's not expensive,
so it's for anybody, you know and everybody, and I
hope the whole world reads it because there's a lot
of good knowledge and information and first hand experience in
that and it really delves into the the truth of
(11:44):
this subject and bypasses the decades and decades of physical construct.
You know that that people attached to that, you know,
they have a difficult time getting passed. So this book
really opens your eyes and gives you a different perspective.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Invisible Giant, a true story of Sasquatch contact. You can
go to Amazon to find that and you'll get it
very very cheap, very very inexpensive. So eighteen year journey.
You've been doing this and it began with the Wildlife
photography in two thousand and seven. Something happened in two
thousand and eight, a major vocal encounter. We all know it,
(12:29):
but want to hear from you again on that.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I had made a comment on a YouTube video and
some guy reached out to me and said, hey, you
want to go to a location a previous activity. And
when he told me the location, you know it was
local to basically, you know, close enough for me to
drive to you. Right when he mentioned the location, I
(12:54):
was extremely skeptical, you know, because I'm new, right, I'm
thinking West coast, you got to go out to BC
or whatever, you know, somewhere on the west coast Oregon
or But when he told me this location, I back
(13:16):
and forth with this guy for a little bit and
then it ended up being we met up in October
of two thousand and eight. It was October twenty fifth,
two thousand and eight, and we went into this spot
and you know, there's there's a lot of woods around there,
but there's there's homes bordering the perimeter. You know, the
(13:37):
woods are cut into concessions. There's roughly about five thousand acres.
They say protected, but they still log them. So we
went in there and this guy's kind of showing me
the ropes and first time i'd met him. And four
and a half hours later, he picks up this fist
sized rock. He walks up to this big pine tree
(13:58):
and he smacks it a few times, drops the rock,
and then suddenly I hear what sounds exactly like a
gorilla chest thump. And I'm pretty good with my sounds
in the woods, right, and it struck me so odd,
and I remember put my arm up just basically saying,
you know, be quiet, like listen, and just a few
(14:20):
seconds later, these giant, massive guttural whoops. They were they're
very raspy, and and he sounded ten feet tall and
he was close. And I remember there's this lady walking
her dog and she came around walking around the corner
right after that happened, and so she was closer than
(14:42):
we were, and she had this scowl on her face
as she walked past us. You know, we just kind
of nodded, you know, we're in the midst of this
close vocal encounter from a sasquatch. And when when you
hear this, there's nothing else it can be. It's just cut,
cut and dry. It's like black and white. It's you know,
(15:03):
you can tell easily.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So that that moment changed my life and put me
on this journey. And it was the very next week
I actually went back up there by myself and I
ran into them again, hearing that exact same chest thump
call again. And that is the first time, which was
(15:27):
very quick actually, that I had my first bout of
high strangeness. So right after that, the very next weekend,
I went back up there. I had that same chest
stump sound. It was a triple chest stump, really rapid,
and next thing I know, I'm I don't know, twenty
twenty five minutes maybe not a half hour down the
(15:51):
road on, you know, driving home, not realizing how I
got there. You know, I wasn't disoriented or anything like that.
I felt normal, Everything felt fine. But I just kind
of gave my head a shake and I thought, what
the hell am I doing here? I was just back
there in the woods. So that was you know that
that came on pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow, that did come on pretty quick for that. What
what's that area?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'd rather not.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You want to say, you don't want to say. Okay, okay, okay,
it's it's not in the book you talk about. Is
it Cowartha Lynx.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
The Cortha Lakes, Cortha Lakes region, that's that's basically cottage country.
That's where I go to, uh visit Nef's family basically.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Okay, okay, So I was thinking it was that way. Okay,
I got you. No, it's a good idea, never to
give up your area. People will go in and mess
up the relationships. It's all about a relationship, and you've
been really, really good with that. Let me just ask
you were talking about one of the sounds that you
had first or is that one of the audio clips
(17:02):
that we have.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, I know that whoop, the triple Whoop call. I
wasn't doing any recording at that time because I have
basically just started right.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
So, yeah, Well, you catch the bug really quickly when
you hear something authentic or see something authentic, And yeah,
what are your thoughts about authenticity when it comes to this.
You know, there's always people that say, well, you know,
it's got to be somebody like this, this or this
(17:33):
to tell me that this is real, not just some
bumpkin in the mountains or something like that, which drives
me crazy because some of the best mountain people in
the world, Hey, they have incredible relationships ongoing with these
beans and they just don't say anything.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
You know, a lot of people look to science to
give them their answers right now. I delve into that
in my book a bit about it's involved in this subject,
and I had I had the support of John Binder,
Nagel and Dimitria, but Bayanov, I think that's how you
say his last name, Russian anthropologists. Basically both of them
(18:13):
have passed on. You know, they were up there in years, right,
but both both supported my efforts, and both were not
on the side of the the paranormal side, but they
were open minded about it. And you know, by the
time they both passed on, they they were they knew
(18:37):
there was stuff going on, you know, because I didn't
hold back, you know, I didn't hold back speaking about
sasquatch abilities, and and both of them told me to, uh,
you know, tone it down. We got to have them
discovered first before we you know, take that next leap, right,
(18:57):
And I just couldn't do that. So it's like to
you know, too little, too late. I'll be six feet
under by the time science catches up. So a lot
of people, they do, they look to science for the
answers when actually a lot of us out in the
field know a lot more than science about this subject,
(19:18):
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
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