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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Ready to be by the wizard of Weird. This is
Strange Thing with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua P.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Warren.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
At each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments
you can do at home, and a lot more. On
this edition of the show, Tales from the Hearse author
David Alan Voyles. This is a particularly special podcast, and
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that is because the man you are about to hear
me interview was my English teacher when I was a
sophomore at Clyde A. Irwin High School in Asheville, North Carolina.
Now Here is why this is especially weird. Mister Voyles
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was one of those teachers that everybody loved. He always
had a smile and you could tell that he sincerely
enjoyed his job.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And when I was his.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Student, he was always truly supportive of me and my writing,
and he would invite me to read my macabre poems
and short stories in front of the class. He was
just a really warm person who actually cared about his students. Regardless,
I'm not the kind of guy who remains friends with
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his old teachers. Frankly, I did not enjoy going to school,
as you can imagine. I don't like being forced to
live like normal people on a daylight schedule. But you see,
over the years, as I got older, I would hear
that mister Voyles was becoming stranger and stranger. As he
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was nearing retirement, he started writing and then publishing creepy
stories himself. And then next thing you know, I heard
he'd lost his mind and bought a hearse and was
driving people all over Ashville and scaring the Bejesus out
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of him for fun. It seems that once he retired,
he decided to finally reveal his true identity. He's the
only teacher I know of who has done this, and
I thought, what are the chances that I just so
happened to be a student of this fella. Well, of course,
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Lauren and I had to take his hearse ride. And
I'm joking here. He didn't actually lose his mind. He
just decided to start having fun with his lifelong love
of spooky things. He started throwing one of the most
elaborate Halloween parties in the entire area each year. I
mean the kind of thing where you know, he he
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must spend months preparing every year, you know, turning his
house and wooded property way up in the mountains into
i don't know, like a devilish carnival or a haunted house.
You know, various themes. Amazing job, and people come from
far and wide have a great time. So this guy,
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he plays in a hearse. He turns his house into
an attraction at Halloween. And he has written numerous books,
including one of my favorites called Tales from the Hearse.
But he has a new novel about a young Edgar
Allan Poe. It's called Edgar, and he's going to tell
you about that and more. He's got some strange stories
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you're about to hear. But before I play this interview,
I want you to know that his house was seriously
damaged recently by Hurricane Helene, and he is currently displaced
and maybe for a long time. So in our conversation
on his cell phone, you will occasionally hear a little buffering,
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but not too much, so please understand and forgive that.
As you know, I don't usually do interviews on this show,
but a conversation with him on this show is long overdue.
So here we go. Let's get the scoop on this
mysterious man. David alan Voyles, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well, it is my pleasure to be here. I am
thrilled to be able to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Isn't it funny to think that I am probably a
good ten years older than you were when you were
my English teacher.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
That is that is a mind glory, it really is.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
That is great.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, you were one of the few teachers that
everybody always loved, including me, and it's synchronistic that a
guy like you, who is so into dark literature would
end up being my teacher for a year.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But let's talk about your roots.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Where were you born and raised and what attracted you
to the literary field.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just
always had an affinity for Halloween.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I loved Halloween.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I loved dark things, spooky things, and that I just
never outgrew it that that love of Halloween especially is
just something that I always look forward to, definitely the
favorite holiday. And so even when I started teaching. Of course,
I got my degree in literature, but I always gravitated
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toward the dark stories and loved those.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Those are just my favorites, and.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So the classics of those, you know, worldwide, even I
would love to do and work.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Halloween into my curriculum. You know.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
We would have semester schedules in high school, of course,
as you recall, but in the first semester you'd have October.
So that was very easy for me to find some
literature to do there, and I would always read a
spooky story and do some fun stuff with that. One
time I stuck a rat, a fake rat, on the
back of my coat jacket and read a story called
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the Graveyard Rats and had stayed seated the whole time,
I remember, before the class was there, so that when
I got up at the end of the story to
write on the board. They would then see the rat
on the back of my jacket had the graveyard rat story.
When I retired from teaching, because of the Halloween and
Halloween parties that we'd always had, we had a theme
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one year of having a ghost tour, and so we
have a little bit of property around our house and
I could make scenes and I could walk around the
property and tell the stories about these scenes that I'd
made up. And after that party, I was talking with
my wife and my grown son and said, you know,
people just love that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Wouldn't it be.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Cool to do that on a full time basis, have
a ghost tour? But like the walking tour that you have,
I thought, well, what if you could do a hearse.
What if you could get a small number of people
and take them around the haunted places in Ashville and ahearse.
Within a year we had bought a nineteen seventy two
Cadillac Hearse and we had dark ride tours on the road,
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and you did get the opportunity to take a tour
with us.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
As I recall, Oh, absolutely, I love the entire experience.
But you know, before we get to that was teaching
your first job or did you have jobs before that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
No, teaching was my first job.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I went into it thinking in high school. I mean
from about my high school years, I started thinking about
being a teacher and wanting to be a teacher. And
this is a terrible thing to say or to confess to,
but often later like when they ask you, I've actually
got the opportunity to serve as a Teacher of the
Year for the county and region, But they asked you
questions like what inspired you to be a teacher, and
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I'm unfortunately it's usually this wonderful, great teacher. But I
can remember that in the tenth grade, I had a
teacher and I sat in that classroom. I loved English
and I loved reading, and I thought, oh my god,
this is so bad. I could do a better job
than this. And that was my very arrogant sixteen year
old self saying, oh, yeah, I could do this.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But it really did become a thing with me.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Is like, I wanted to teach, So I knew when
I went to college that I wanted to get my
teaching certificate and I wanted to teach English.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And you didn't start publishing until after you retired.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Right, that's correct.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
After thirty years of teaching and doing the ghost tours,
when the ghost tours ended because of COVID, I thought, well,
this is a good time to I'm going to go
ahead and put some of these why not put them
together in a book? And I have started out with
a series of Christmas horror stories, because you know, after
all that Christmas really needs right more horror, so.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I had to do.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I did a collection of thirteen stories there thirteen days,
thirteenth of Christmas. And I enjoyed doing that and had
a friend who was going to start doing He was
already had just started helping independent writers, indie authors publish,
so he helped publish.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
That first book and one or two after that, and
that it began.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
But it was not until then, you know, well into
my sixties that I started trying to publish. And I
just turned seventy this year.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So now getting back to the hearse and you're you know,
like you said, Lauren, and I had the honor of
being guessed in that hearse and what a unique experience
that was. You were dressed in this dramatic costume. Tell
us about Virgil, this character that you created.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I wanted to come up with something as a character
and for Josh my son, who was the driver of that.
We started, you know, brainstorming about ideas, and I thought,
I thought, I'd like the idea of being this sort
of grave digger, funeral home director, storyteller.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And then I guess, going back.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
To the roots of you know, going back to Dante
in the Inferno, I thought, you know, Virgil, the Roman
poet serves as the guide to hell for Dante in
that work, and I thought, you know, I like the
name Virgil anyway, and I've always liked Ray Bradbury's story
Something Wicked This Way Comes and the main character there
are two boys in the story, but one is Jim Nightshade,
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and I love the name night Shade and that whole
idea that you know, poison and everything about that.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
So Virgil Nightshade was the name that I took for that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And my son ended up wearing the garb of a
like almost looked like a grim reaper, but he was,
you know, tall, and he's just real big, and he
seemed intimidating with this half skull mask underneath the cow
that and he was our driver, and so he was
we referred to him as Sharon the you know, the
ferrymen of the dead and Greek mythology taking you across
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so leading people into this darkness.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
When we come back from this break, he's gonna tell
you the true weird story called Maggie and the Pig Face.
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Speaker 3 (13:55):
I Gitato Zume.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
His website is his name David Allenvoyls dot com.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
That's spelled d a v I d a l l
E n v O y l e.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
S dot com. When you go there, it says dark
Tales for bright minds. Let's get back to the conversation
with horror author David Allenvoyles.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When I was a teenager.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Uh, you probably recall I published a book called Speaking
of Strange and it had paranormal experiences and just weird
encounters that people from the region it had.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
You published, are you?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You wrote a story that was published in that book
called Maggie in the Pig Face.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I don't know if you want to recap that,
but I just want to ask you in general about
some real paranormal experiences that you've had in your life.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, that story that is so that is such an
odd were living out in Leicester, which in an area
you know, well at that time, I'm in Swanna, Noah.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Now on the other side of the other side of
the county.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
But at that time that really wasn't a count and
that just enough to kind of make that story a
little bit shorter. And I've never been able to understand
it exactly or come up with possible good explanation for it.
But we had a dog at that time lived on
about seven acres we left at that time the dodge
run everybody did at that point, and that dog would
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just travel and go all over the place. Below us
was someone who slaughtered hogs on occasion. But we had
the dog brought up this hogshead at one point just
and you know, it's it'd been a fresh, freshly butchered kill,
and we were getting ready to have company, and we thought,
oh my gosh, this is terrible. I took the thing
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and pitched it over the fence into the woods and
it tumbled down a long hill into a ravine, and
thought we were taking care of it. But over a
period of time, that dog kept bringing up this hog's
and weeks would go by, and of course you can
imagine how disgusting that was, until eventually it was just
this bleached out skull. Well after weeks had passed.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Beyond that of me and I'm trying to get rid
of it. Every time.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
That dog got into something, some poison or something. I
don't prefer not to think that somebody poisoned the dog,
but it did get into poison and it died, and
I buried it on the edge of the property. We
had a long curving drive that led up to a
ranch house up on the side of the mountain there,
and buried the dog. Put the little toys in there,
like some people do with their favorite toys and things.
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And not too long after that, one day I was
driving back up that driveway and making the curve back
to the house, looking at the grave because it'd often
do that, and I saw sitting there in a brown
patch of dirt that marked the grave, something white and
what in the world is that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I got out of the truck and.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Went over to look on it, and there was a
hog skull sitting on top.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Of her grave. And I have no idea how it
got there.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
My wife remembers that there was another little dog that
would sometimes come and just sit at her grave, and uh,
and I, you know, it's just it's just really odd
to think of whatever might have happened. But it does
seem like, you know, Maggie in the face. Josh was
just my son. Josh was just a little kid at
that time, and he'd uh, he'd referred to that dog
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it's called as a pig face, and so he when
when when it returns the second time, he was like, Daddy.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
The pig face is back. So that was the essence
behind Maggie and the pig face.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
But aside from that, I haven't had too many experiences.
People often say, well, you had this hearse. Did you
ever have any experiences with the supernatural and the hearse? Well,
I've said often that I'm apparently about as spiritually sensitive
as a brick.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
You know, I just don't.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Ever since any of the things that other spirit sensitives do,
and I've I'd like to, but it just doesn't seem
to happen to me.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
But I have had on occasion.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Spirit sensitives tell me about things that were happening, especially
one story about the hearse.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
If you'd like to hear that.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Oh yeah, sure, when we I don't know how long
we'd had it.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm not sure even if we had actually begun having.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
The tours yet, but I knew of a woman and
had come to known her who just convinced me even
though I am a skeptic, and I look at this
and approach it the way you do. Really you always
look at it from the scientific point of view, as
if to disprove it and then see what can still
be there. So I'm very much a skeptic of these things,
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but I had experiences with her that just made me
feel like I can't come up with any other explanation
that there are such things as spirits, that there are
connections we can have with the dead. Well, she had
invited her over to see the hearse, I think early
on after we had gotten it and renovated it and
ready to do the tours, and so she came over.
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We just opened the door, she stuck her head in it,
and I guess I should say first, we bought the
hearse from a fellow in Virginia who actually was selling
it as a part of an estate from his brother
who had passed away. His brother had owned the hearse
and he had used it as a business and had
put Hi Fi equipment in it, stereo equipment, and he
would DJ parties. So we learned about that, and we
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had to do quite a bit of renovation beyond that,
because it's sat for a long time. But anyway, that's
the person that we bought it from. Well, without her
knowing any of that history, we opened the door up
for her to see her.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
She stuck her.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Head in and she said, as you recall, we had
like there were two rows of seats, one that ran
all the way down the length of the hearse and
went across the middle, separated from the front seat. She
stuck her head in the side door and she said, well,
first of all, let me tell you, I'm hearing rock
and roll music, seventies rock and roll music, especially Creden's
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clear Water Okay, And she said, and there's a gentleman
sitting in the corner of where these seats that you've
made very happy, very pleased, thrilled with what you're doing
with the hearse, very very large fellow, very very huge fellow.
But he loves this music. Well, I didn't know it
at that time. I didn't know that he had done
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these parties. But I sent another message back after this
to his brother who.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Had survived, who sold us the hurst, and said, I
just got to ask you a question. Did your brother,
particularly what kind of music did he play? He said,
oh yeah, it was definitely seventies music.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
But he was a real fan of Creeden Sclarewater Uh huh.
And I had seen pictures of him, but I said,
and your brother was a pretty large man, and he said,
oh yeah, he was huge. So how she was able
to zero on those are just not things that you can.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Coincidentally come up with. That just struck me as like, Okay,
so I'm glad if we're going to have a haunted hearse.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
That the previous owner of the hearse was at least
happy what we were doing with it.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Wow. That yeah, that is I mean so specific.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
When things like that happen, you scratch your head and
you say, how could that possibly be coincidence?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I know, you know, and I watch shows all the time.
I love watching these shows. But I'm you know, I'm understanding,
or I'm at least skeptic enough to go, oh, they
could have done thus and so to find out that
information or done this kind of research or whatever.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Somebody told them that they had to tell them that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
This was stuff that I'm only I knew I was
the only connecting point here to those two people that
she had no idea who we had bought this from
it was in another state. And as you say, when
you had those kinds of facts come up, it's that's
a head scratcher. It's hard to say that. Hard to
come up with any other kind of of uh, justific
not justification, explanation for it. Hard to come up with that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And things like that just continue inspiring ideas for stories.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I mean, you've written a.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Number of books, including your latest novel, Edgar, and let
me tell you this is impressive, to say the least,
all the way from concept to execution, right to the
last page.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Tell us about Edgar, I got.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I had been wanting to write a book about Edgar
Allen Poe for decades. The thing that I wanted to write,
and I say this in the introduction to the book.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I have wanted to do this.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
There's such a mystery about Poe's death, and everyone has,
you know, come up with all kinds of different possibilities, which,
by the way, his death October seventh, as we're recording
this is still that's tomorrow for us right now. That
that death has been fascinating of how why did he
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end up.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Where he did? And close there aren't.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Even his Most people assume assumed that he was in
a drunken state, because that's what the people that found
him thought. But why was he there, why was he
not wearing his own clothes? What happened to him? I
wanted to write a story about that, but this book edgar.
When I finally came down around to sitting down to
write a book about Poe, that's not the story that
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came out.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
For some reason, and I cannot explain it. I just
wanted to write a story.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I thought, you need to write one about if he
was a boy, with the premise of what if. All
the scariest things that Poe told about in his stories
were all inspired by things that happened to him when
he was a boy at fifteen years old living in Richmond, Virginia.
Wouldn't that be an interesting story? So that's the one
I wrote. And I had such fun researching things about
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Richmond at that time, finding out things about real people
in his life that I wanted to incorporate into the story.
His relationship with his adoptive parents, John Allen and Francis Allen, what.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
That would have been like.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
There was quite a bit of tension that he had
with his adopted father all those things I wanted to
work in, but I wanted to work in his stories well,
so I took thirteen or so of the stories and
reworked them a little bit, but had under the basic
premise one of his stories in which there is the
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narrator of the story, William Wilson, is the story is
a doubleganger for the narrator, he sees himself and this
covers years in this character's life, making his life miserable.
And I said, Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
That's going to be the premise story.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
The Eedgar Allen Poe has a doubleganger and it is
making his life miserable by causing these supernatural events that
will go on.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
And I can work in stories, parts.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Of post tales into the chapters, but make it one
long cohesive tale.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
When we come back more on Edgar. And then also
what happens on Halloween Night when you drive around in Asheville,
North Carolina and a hearse, Well, he has kind of
a funny story about that as well.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I'm Joshua P.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Warren.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, and I will be
back after these important messages, So stick around. Welcome back
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to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to co
st Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Well,
it's time for the conclusion of my conversation with author
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David Allen Voyles, and we were just talking about his
brand new novel called Edgar. It actually, as I was
reading it, it inspired me to want to go back and
reread some of Poe's stories so that I could further
solidify the connections, which and that's one of the great
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things about this book is that it sort of opens
up all of these other worlds of possibility. And let
me just tell you, I don't know if you've thought
about this.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I bet you have.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
When I finished reading this, I thought to myself and
a lot of people listen to this podcast, somebody out
there needs to buy the rights to this book and
turn it into a TV series about young Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It does. I kind of picture it that way.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
It wasn't the way that I intended as I'm writing it,
but it does flow that way, and it's very episodic.
It definitely has these because each chapter, each chapter really
is going is influenced by a particular chapter or a
story of Moose. And even though it's connected all over,
it takes place over one summer. It definitely has that
kind of episodic flow.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So with a.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Connecting theme of this doppelganger, this dark Edgar that keeps
appearing and making Edgar Allan Poe's life miserable.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, it's it's just a wonderful book and I hope
everybody will go read this. We're going to give out
your website to actually go ahead and give it out
right now, what's your website address?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, it's David Alanvoiles dot com. And I spell my
Alan a little different than Edgar Allen Poe. Mine is
a L L E end, So David Alanvoyles dot com.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
We did have one.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Mentus Halloween where it was the only time this really happened,
but being an old hearse and somewhat questionable, it broke
down on Halloween night with customers in it, and that
was unbelievable. We had two or three we had made
special tours for it. Pulled up into the UNCA parking lot,
which was one of our first stops and we knew
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we were had had some questions about the Hears's mechanics
at the point, but we thought, no, we've already got
these people book for Halloween night.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It seems to be doing okay.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And Josh gave me the signal from the front seat,
kind of a line across the throat, and when he
turned around to look at him after hearing a particularly
loud clunk, like, nope, this tour is over, and we
had to pull into the parking lot and tell them
I'm sorry, but this Hears's died, unfortunately, and they laughed
and chuckled ha ha haa, thinking it was part of
the tour, and I had to say.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
This isn't part of the tour.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I'm afraid I got to call you a taxi or
aneuber and we got those folks. They were so and
so forgiving one of the couples. We didn't realize it
at the time, but we did the same thing the
following Halloween and.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Didn't realize that.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
They told me and they said, you know, we were
in that Hearst that broke down last year. But we
still loved the whole idea of it so much that
we had to do it again, and so they got
they did it, and we got the successful right out.
But I will never forget that Halloween when the Hearst died.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
One of the nice things about being in the ghost
business is that when you screw up or something breaks through, whatever,
you can just say, oh, I told you ghost for
real this year? Oh man, Well, so that opportunity give
us your website once again and anything else you'd like
to say.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The floor is yours.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
The website is David allenvoyls dot com. I also invite
people to join me on Facebook for the Dark Corners page.
It's a dark Dark Corners is the name of it,
which is also the name of the podcast that I have.
I haven't been active the podcast, but it's basically got
three seasons that you can listen to. Now I want
(30:04):
to come back and revisit and add to that. But
the first season is my mention of some of my
original short stories. Season two is a novella that's in
thirteen episodes called Which Works, And the third season is
the novel in thirteen episodes as well, called Raiths of
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the Appalachian.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, David, the clock has got us, But once again,
you know, I think it's absolutely amazing that I had
the honor to be your student. I knew we had
a lot in common, but I did not realize just
how much at the time. And it's been wonderful to
remain your friend after all these decades, and I know
you will continue to surprise and entertain us with your
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amazing tales. So thank you so much for being my guest.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
It's been a thrill.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
It's my pleasure as well to be able to talk
to you with you and share those stories with you,
and I look forward to hearing even more from your
broadcasts as well.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
All Right, once again, his website is Davidallenvoyles dot com.
Of course, you could just go to Amazon and type
in his name, and as a matter of fact, I mean,
you'll find all of his books. But right now I'm
looking at Edgar when Poe's Nightmares began. I'm telling you
it's got almost five out of five. I mean practically
five out of five stars. It's like, maybe there's a
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little sliver of white, but it's basically five out of
five stars. And that's really hard to get nowadays. People
are so mean when they review stuff, and the paperback's
only thirteen dollars ninety nine cents and the Kendle is
four ninety nine, So if you like that kind of novel,
then you should check out his work. So we'll see
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what he's up to in the future. Well, I think
it would be great if we just continued this theme
of tales from the hearse and I just kept telling
you tales that are creepy and spooky for the rest
of the show. And since it's my show, that is
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what we're gonna do. And therefore, let me go right
to right to the emails that I get. I get
some of the most interesting emails from listeners. Here's one
from Paulette. She says, Hi, Joshua, the other night, my
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husband and I were listening to your podcast. We live
in the Sierra Foothills, so we are an hour from everywhere,
so we listened to you in the car. You were
talking about your friend that passed away and how you
have a word to confirm so you knew when it
was them after they passed. Well, about six years ago,
my mother passed from Kola cancer. I'm an only child
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and I have three now adult children. My mom was
a paranormal sci fi fan for as long as I
can remember, and we talked about if she ever died,
she needed to let us know she was still around.
Well toward the end of mom's life, I had to
move into help her. I lived with her about three
months before she passed away at home. The next few
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days after her passing were just a blur of making
arrangements and talking with family. After five days, my youngest
daughter was in the car with me and she looked
at me and said, Mom, I'm disappointed. I really thought
Grandma was going to let us know she was around.
And I said, well, honey, I'm sad about that too,
but I guess it just as it meant to be.
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We were sitting in the driveway at my mom's house,
where I was still living, and as we backed up,
my rear sensor went off and in my video on
the screen in the car, there was a green digital
block showing there was something in the way, and we
kind of looked at each other, and I got out
to investigate because there was nothing there. When I got
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back in the car, I proceeded to put it in reverse,
and there it was again, that green digital block, and
we looked at each other with delight, and my daughter
said so you think it's Grandma. I said, I don't know,
and then I said, Mom, get in the car. She
went everywhere with us when she was alive. I put
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it in reverse again and well, no green block. We
were excited about it and talked about it all day,
and later that evening we were in the car again,
back in the driveway. We were telling my cousin about it,
and he said, you're crazy. We proceeded to back up
and nothing. He said it was just a fluke, and
(34:51):
I said, wow, I really thought it would happen again.
I pulled back into the driveway and before I backed
out again, I said, mom, my cousin thinks I'm crazy.
Please show him what I'm talking about. We proceeded to
back up and boom. There were now two squares.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
One yellow and one green.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The square colors represent how close you are to hitting something,
and my daughter and I squealed and my cousin's eyes
just got big. Wow, he said. Then we continued on
our way. It happened one more time after that, and
this time there were three blocks, two green and one yellow.
You see, my dad passed away when I was young,
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and my mom's husband had passed several years before, and
I'm convinced this electromagnetic energy came from them. It settled
my mind about the afterworld, and in a weird way,
it comforted me because I believe the three of them
are together. It never happened again after that. That's my story,
(35:53):
and I believe glad I could share this with you, Sincerely,
your fan, Paulette. Wow, thank you, Paul Atte. You know
what I said, I was going to tell you a
creepy story that wasn't creepy at all. That was very inspirational.
I love that story, and you know, it kind of
(36:17):
reminds me of this idea that sometimes you can perhaps
use your car as a ghost hunting tool. I mean,
that's kind of what she was doing there. She was
using the car as an instrument to sense spirits. I mean,
for example, my wife, Lauren is from Texas and her
(36:38):
mother used to live near San Antonio, and there's this
little hill outside of San Antonio where you can you
can park your car. Well, you don't park it, you
just put your car in neutral, and all of a
sudden it will start rolling up hill, or so it
seings until it goes up and over some railroad tracks,
(37:02):
and the story is that some kids died when their
school bus was hit on those railroad tracks. Well, I
have an update for you when we get back. But hey, listen, look,
I promised you a creepy story, so I'm going to
give you one. I'm going to tell you about what
one person saw upon waking up. What would you do
(37:25):
if you saw this at the end of your bed,
perched at the end of your bed when you wake
up in the middle of the night. I'm Joshua pe Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
(38:19):
edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And yeah, the story was that this busload of kids
back in the day was hit by a train. They
all died right there on the train tracks. And so
now if you go there and you put your car
in neutral, even though you're at the bottom of a
hill and the tracks are at the top of the hill,
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the car will just start rolling up the hill, and
we did it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And it worked.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
About thirty feet up this slight hill onto the railroad
tracks and over, and it's really an amazing experience. And
they said that if you had talcum powder and you'd
sprinkle it on the back of your car, that when
afterward you get out and you look and you'd see
(39:22):
the fingerprints and the talcum powder of all the little kids.
But we didn't have any talcum powder. But the fact
of the matter is, I mean, this is what's known
as a gravity hill. It's actually an optical illusion. It's
an amazing optical illusion, though, because it really does look
like you're going uphill, and yet somehow you're not. You're
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going ultimately downhill. You'll have to look up the physics
of that. And they always said that the reason that
you would have fingerprints pop up from the talcum powder
is that you probably have a bunch of fingerprints already
all over the back of your car, all over your trunk,
and you just don't know it because you're touching it
all the time. And so when you sprinkle the talcum
(40:06):
powder on there, you see them, and it's just you
combine those two effects and it's really powerful. But it
absolutely works as described. However, I just looked it up
and somebody has written here that in twenty eighteen that
(40:28):
they redid the road and it changed the physics of
the road, so the effect no longer occurs.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Ha, how about that. That's kind of sad, isn't it. Hey?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
The concept is cool that you could maybe use your
car as a paranormal instrument. Why don't some of you
try out the experiment that Paulette did and let us
know what happens in your case? All right, before I
tell you this scary story, I can't help it. I
(41:03):
just have a little short one here that I just love.
It's inspirational, got it. I gotta squeeze this one in
here before I get to this terrifying stuff. I got
this message from a man named Utah. His name is Roy.
He said, Joshua, I had terrible neuropathy in my left leg, burning, numbness,
(41:29):
and tingling sensations due to nerve damage. But after wearing
the Tesla Purple medallion every day, the neuropathy has vanished.
After many years of suffering, I can now touch my
left leg and it feels normal, no burning at all.
Simply amazing. I am shocked at the profound results. Miraculous.
(41:54):
Thank you, Roy. I don't know if you have ever
experienced in kind of neuropathy, but that is a horrible
thing and I'm just that warms my heart to know that, Roy,
you have been helped by this.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Thank you for this message. And you know.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'm not a medical professional. I'm not out there trying
to sell snake oil or anything like that. But I'm
just reading you the email the guy got. If you
want to experiment with that kind of thing, I believe
I still have some of those Tesla purple pendants in
my curiosity shop if you go to Joshuapwarren dot com.
So I just had to squeeze that one in there. Okay,
(42:34):
here is a message I got from a man he
said I could use his full name, Joseph S. Peters,
regarding an incident in Houston, Texas. Going back to Texas again,
he said, the most frightening experience a child could go
through happened to me when I was four years old.
At the time, I was living with my mother in
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an apartment that seemed to exist between our realm and
a much more frighten dimension. One night, I awoke to
find a shadow creature perched at the end of my bed.
I stood up in shock while my brain was trying
to comprehend the beast that was staring me down. It
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was blacker than night, with the appearance of a cross
between a vulture and a bat. The shadow creature spread
out its wings with a span of four to five
feet as it cried a psychic screech. The sound was
so loud and terrifying that I had tears fall from
my eyes before I actually fainted. I woke up some
(43:41):
time later and noticed the sliding door to the closet
in front of me was open. On the top shelf
in the corner stood the same demonic creature. I jumped up,
fearing for my life, begging the creature not to scream
that awful sound. I was scared by its screech and
(44:02):
was willing to do anything not to hear it again.
The shadow beast then flew out of my closet toward me,
ultimately paralyzing my body. I could only think this was
the end, for surely this bat from hell would kill me. Then,
in a split second, it turned around and flew through
the door, going.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Out in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Once it was gone. I regained control over my body
and I screamed out at the top of my lungs
for my mother, who was sleeping next to me. She
woke up and asked me what the problem was. Not
knowing how to describe my experience, I told her something
was in our house and that it was trying to
get me. And my mother immediately looked through every room
(44:45):
to find the intruder and returned to the bed, saying
there was nothing in the apartment. This was not the
first paranormal event in the apartment, nor would it be
the last. As for the shadow creature, I can only
assume it was a demon. However it appeared to me,
And why would it appear to me, I would never
know before we left that place, long before we could
(45:05):
find that out. Now you might say, well, this is
just coming from a four year old.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Kids are capable of seeing things that adults cannot see,
and I remember things very vividly from when I was
four years old. As a matter of fact, I've told
you this before. I remember I have memories of being in.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
The crib.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
And not being able to talk. My very first memory
that I have. I mean I'm talking to. My very
first memory was cookie Monster, and because my mom and
dad had bought me a big, blue, furry cookie Monster.
And at whatever, I don't know what point this happened
(45:54):
to me, but I was a baby who couldn't even speak,
lying their helpless in a crib, and I remember very
clearly seeing Cookie Monster. And I've heard that. You know,
you're not supposed to be able to remember that far back,
but I sure could. Here's a story from Joe in Canton, Ohio.
He says, my grandfather passed away in the mid nineteen eighties.
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We sold his vehicle as we were selling some of
his possessions. My mother and grandmother signed the title and
the new owner came to pick up the vehicle. They
could not find the car keys anywhere. The house was
searched from top to bottom in drawers and closets, on
shelves and tables, they were nowhere to be found. A
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few days later, my mother arrived at my grandma's house
and found her to be distraught. My mother asked what
was wrong, and she would only reply that she had
found the keys. My mother was happy to hear the
news and ask where they'd been. My grandmother replied on
the floor in the middle of the bathroom. We certainly
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would have found them quickly if they'd been their days earlier.
It seemed like Grandpa didn't want to sell the car.
And now I've read this one to you before, but
it's one of my favorites. This came to me from
Thomas Kelly, Minneapolis, Minnesota. He says, in nineteen ninety seven,
my girlfriend and I were renting a huge, beautiful, old
(47:19):
duplex in South Minneapolis. My girlfriend worked the night shift
ten pm to seven am. I would go to bed
just after she left her work, and she would wake
me in the morning when she returned home. One morning,
she woke me up and asked me why there was
a butcher knife in the bathtub. I told her I
had no idea, and we laughed it off. A few
(47:41):
weeks later, she woke me up and asked why there
were bone cutters in the bathtub, and again we laughed
it off, as the kitchen was adjacent to the bathroom
and the butcher block knife holder was on the counter
just outside the bathroom. A month or so later, a
similar thing happened. My girlfriend asked me why the bone
cutters were in the bathroom sink. This continued for three years,
(48:01):
probably ten times. Somehow in the night the cutlery would
end up in the bathroom, in the bathtub or the
sink one time, and the toilet one night. The butcher
knife was lying at the foot of our bed. During
our last weekend in the duplex, we threw a party
and invited the downstairs tenant and all the tenants, and
there was a couple who had lived in the building
(48:23):
for years, and when the subject of the landlord came up,
we both went white when they told us in nineteen
sixty eight, our landlord's mother had committed suicide in our unit,
in the bathtub with a butcher knife. Okay, let's clear
the air and in the show. On a positive note,
(48:44):
take a deep breath. If you can't close your eyes.
Here is the good Fortune tone. That's it for this
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Warren.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
At each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments
you can do at home, and a lot more. On
this edition of the show, Tales from the Hearse author
David Alan Voyles. This is a particularly special podcast, and
(01:36):
that is because the man you are about to hear
me interview was my English teacher when I was a
sophomore at Clyde A. Irwin High School in Asheville, North Carolina.
Now Here is why this is especially weird. Mister Voyles
(01:57):
was one of those teachers that everybody loved. He always
had a smile and you could tell that he sincerely
enjoyed his job.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And when I was his.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Student, he was always truly supportive of me and my writing,
and he would invite me to read my macabre poems
and short stories in front of the class. He was
just a really warm person who actually cared about his students. Regardless,
I'm not the kind of guy who remains friends with
(02:30):
his old teachers. Frankly, I did not enjoy going to school,
as you can imagine. I don't like being forced to
live like normal people on a daylight schedule. But you see,
over the years, as I got older, I would hear
that mister Voyles was becoming stranger and stranger. As he
(02:55):
was nearing retirement, he started writing and then publishing creepy
stories himself. And then next thing you know, I heard
he'd lost his mind and bought a hearse and was
driving people all over Ashville and scaring the Bejesus out
(03:16):
of him for fun. It seems that once he retired,
he decided to finally reveal his true identity. He's the
only teacher I know of who has done this, and
I thought, what are the chances that I just so
happened to be a student of this fella. Well, of course,
(03:38):
Lauren and I had to take his hearse ride. And
I'm joking here. He didn't actually lose his mind. He
just decided to start having fun with his lifelong love
of spooky things. He started throwing one of the most
elaborate Halloween parties in the entire area each year. I
mean the kind of thing where you know, he he
(04:00):
must spend months preparing every year, you know, turning his
house and wooded property way up in the mountains into
i don't know, like a devilish carnival or a haunted house.
You know, various themes. Amazing job, and people come from
far and wide have a great time. So this guy,
(04:21):
he plays in a hearse. He turns his house into
an attraction at Halloween. And he has written numerous books,
including one of my favorites called Tales from the Hearse.
But he has a new novel about a young Edgar
Allan Poe. It's called Edgar, and he's going to tell
you about that and more. He's got some strange stories
(04:43):
you're about to hear. But before I play this interview,
I want you to know that his house was seriously
damaged recently by Hurricane Helene, and he is currently displaced
and maybe for a long time. So in our conversation
on his cell phone, you will occasionally hear a little buffering,
(05:04):
but not too much, so please understand and forgive that.
As you know, I don't usually do interviews on this show,
but a conversation with him on this show is long overdue.
So here we go. Let's get the scoop on this
mysterious man. David alan Voyles, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well, it is my pleasure to be here. I am
thrilled to be able to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Isn't it funny to think that I am probably a
good ten years older than you were when you were
my English teacher.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
That is that is a mind glory, it really is.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
That is great.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, you were one of the few teachers that
everybody always loved, including me, and it's synchronistic that a
guy like you, who is so into dark literature would
end up being my teacher for a year.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But let's talk about your roots.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Where were you born and raised and what attracted you
to the literary field.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just
always had an affinity for Halloween.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I loved Halloween.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I loved dark things, spooky things, and that I just
never outgrew it that that love of Halloween especially is
just something that I always look forward to, definitely the
favorite holiday. And so even when I started teaching. Of course,
I got my degree in literature, but I always gravitated
(06:43):
toward the dark stories and loved those.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Those are just my favorites, and.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So the classics of those, you know, worldwide, even I
would love to do and work.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Halloween into my curriculum. You know.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
We would have semester schedules in high school, of course,
as you recall, but in the first semester you'd have October.
So that was very easy for me to find some
literature to do there, and I would always read a
spooky story and do some fun stuff with that. One
time I stuck a rat, a fake rat, on the
back of my coat jacket and read a story called
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the Graveyard Rats and had stayed seated the whole time,
I remember, before the class was there, so that when
I got up at the end of the story to
write on the board. They would then see the rat
on the back of my jacket had the graveyard rat story.
When I retired from teaching, because of the Halloween and
Halloween parties that we'd always had, we had a theme
(07:37):
one year of having a ghost tour, and so we
have a little bit of property around our house and
I could make scenes and I could walk around the
property and tell the stories about these scenes that I'd
made up. And after that party, I was talking with
my wife and my grown son and said, you know,
people just love that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Wouldn't it be.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Cool to do that on a full time basis, have
a ghost tour? But like the walking tour that you have,
I thought, well, what if you could do a hearse.
What if you could get a small number of people
and take them around the haunted places in Ashville and ahearse.
Within a year we had bought a nineteen seventy two
Cadillac Hearse and we had dark ride tours on the road,
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and you did get the opportunity to take a tour
with us.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
As I recall, Oh, absolutely, I love the entire experience.
But you know, before we get to that was teaching
your first job or did you have jobs before that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
No, teaching was my first job.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I went into it thinking in high school. I mean
from about my high school years, I started thinking about
being a teacher and wanting to be a teacher. And
this is a terrible thing to say or to confess to,
but often later like when they ask you, I've actually
got the opportunity to serve as a Teacher of the
Year for the county and region, But they asked you
questions like what inspired you to be a teacher, and
(08:56):
I'm unfortunately it's usually this wonderful, great teacher. But I
can remember that in the tenth grade, I had a
teacher and I sat in that classroom. I loved English
and I loved reading, and I thought, oh my god,
this is so bad. I could do a better job
than this. And that was my very arrogant sixteen year
old self saying, oh, yeah, I could do this.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But it really did become a thing with me.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Is like, I wanted to teach, So I knew when
I went to college that I wanted to get my
teaching certificate and I wanted to teach English.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And you didn't start publishing until after you retired.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Right, that's correct.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
After thirty years of teaching and doing the ghost tours,
when the ghost tours ended because of COVID, I thought, well,
this is a good time to I'm going to go
ahead and put some of these why not put them
together in a book? And I have started out with
a series of Christmas horror stories, because you know, after
all that Christmas really needs right more horror, so.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I had to do.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I did a collection of thirteen stories there thirteen days,
thirteenth of Christmas. And I enjoyed doing that and had
a friend who was going to start doing He was
already had just started helping independent writers, indie authors publish,
so he helped publish.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
That first book and one or two after that, and
that it began.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
But it was not until then, you know, well into
my sixties that I started trying to publish. And I
just turned seventy this year.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So now getting back to the hearse and you're you know,
like you said, Lauren, and I had the honor of
being guessed in that hearse and what a unique experience
that was. You were dressed in this dramatic costume. Tell
us about Virgil, this character that you created.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I wanted to come up with something as a character
and for Josh my son, who was the driver of that.
We started, you know, brainstorming about ideas, and I thought,
I thought, I'd like the idea of being this sort
of grave digger, funeral home director, storyteller.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And then I guess, going back.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
To the roots of you know, going back to Dante
in the Inferno, I thought, you know, Virgil, the Roman
poet serves as the guide to hell for Dante in
that work, and I thought, you know, I like the
name Virgil anyway, and I've always liked Ray Bradbury's story
Something Wicked This Way Comes and the main character there
are two boys in the story, but one is Jim Nightshade,
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and I love the name night Shade and that whole
idea that you know, poison and everything about that.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
So Virgil Nightshade was the name that I took for that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And my son ended up wearing the garb of a
like almost looked like a grim reaper, but he was,
you know, tall, and he's just real big, and he
seemed intimidating with this half skull mask underneath the cow
that and he was our driver, and so he was
we referred to him as Sharon the you know, the
ferrymen of the dead and Greek mythology taking you across
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so leading people into this darkness.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
When we come back from this break, he's gonna tell
you the true weird story called Maggie and the Pig Face.
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Speaker 1 (13:33):
Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
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Speaker 3 (13:55):
I Gitato Zume.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
His website is his name David Allenvoyls dot com.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
That's spelled d a v I d a l l
E n v O y l e.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
S dot com. When you go there, it says dark
Tales for bright minds. Let's get back to the conversation
with horror author David Allenvoyles.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When I was a teenager.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Uh, you probably recall I published a book called Speaking
of Strange and it had paranormal experiences and just weird
encounters that people from the region it had.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
You published, are you?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You wrote a story that was published in that book
called Maggie in the Pig Face.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I don't know if you want to recap that,
but I just want to ask you in general about
some real paranormal experiences that you've had in your life.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, that story that is so that is such an
odd were living out in Leicester, which in an area
you know, well at that time, I'm in Swanna, Noah.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Now on the other side of the other side of
the county.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
But at that time that really wasn't a count and
that just enough to kind of make that story a
little bit shorter. And I've never been able to understand
it exactly or come up with possible good explanation for it.
But we had a dog at that time lived on
about seven acres we left at that time the dodge
run everybody did at that point, and that dog would
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just travel and go all over the place. Below us
was someone who slaughtered hogs on occasion. But we had
the dog brought up this hogshead at one point just
and you know, it's it'd been a fresh, freshly butchered kill,
and we were getting ready to have company, and we thought,
oh my gosh, this is terrible. I took the thing
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and pitched it over the fence into the woods and
it tumbled down a long hill into a ravine, and
thought we were taking care of it. But over a
period of time, that dog kept bringing up this hog's
and weeks would go by, and of course you can
imagine how disgusting that was, until eventually it was just
this bleached out skull. Well after weeks had passed.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Beyond that of me and I'm trying to get rid
of it. Every time.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
That dog got into something, some poison or something. I
don't prefer not to think that somebody poisoned the dog,
but it did get into poison and it died, and
I buried it on the edge of the property. We
had a long curving drive that led up to a
ranch house up on the side of the mountain there,
and buried the dog. Put the little toys in there,
like some people do with their favorite toys and things.
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And not too long after that, one day I was
driving back up that driveway and making the curve back
to the house, looking at the grave because it'd often
do that, and I saw sitting there in a brown
patch of dirt that marked the grave, something white and
what in the world is that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I got out of the truck and.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Went over to look on it, and there was a
hog skull sitting on top.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Of her grave. And I have no idea how it
got there.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
My wife remembers that there was another little dog that
would sometimes come and just sit at her grave, and uh,
and I, you know, it's just it's just really odd
to think of whatever might have happened. But it does
seem like, you know, Maggie in the face. Josh was
just my son. Josh was just a little kid at
that time, and he'd uh, he'd referred to that dog
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it's called as a pig face, and so he when
when when it returns the second time, he was like, Daddy.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
The pig face is back. So that was the essence
behind Maggie and the pig face.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
But aside from that, I haven't had too many experiences.
People often say, well, you had this hearse. Did you
ever have any experiences with the supernatural and the hearse? Well,
I've said often that I'm apparently about as spiritually sensitive
as a brick.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
You know, I just don't.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Ever since any of the things that other spirit sensitives do,
and I've I'd like to, but it just doesn't seem
to happen to me.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
But I have had on occasion.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Spirit sensitives tell me about things that were happening, especially
one story about the hearse.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
If you'd like to hear that.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Oh yeah, sure, when we I don't know how long
we'd had it.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm not sure even if we had actually begun having.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
The tours yet, but I knew of a woman and
had come to known her who just convinced me even
though I am a skeptic, and I look at this
and approach it the way you do. Really you always
look at it from the scientific point of view, as
if to disprove it and then see what can still
be there. So I'm very much a skeptic of these things,
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but I had experiences with her that just made me
feel like I can't come up with any other explanation
that there are such things as spirits, that there are
connections we can have with the dead. Well, she had
invited her over to see the hearse, I think early
on after we had gotten it and renovated it and
ready to do the tours, and so she came over.
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We just opened the door, she stuck her head in it,
and I guess I should say first, we bought the
hearse from a fellow in Virginia who actually was selling
it as a part of an estate from his brother
who had passed away. His brother had owned the hearse
and he had used it as a business and had
put Hi Fi equipment in it, stereo equipment, and he
would DJ parties. So we learned about that, and we
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had to do quite a bit of renovation beyond that,
because it's sat for a long time. But anyway, that's
the person that we bought it from. Well, without her
knowing any of that history, we opened the door up
for her to see her.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
She stuck her.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Head in and she said, as you recall, we had
like there were two rows of seats, one that ran
all the way down the length of the hearse and
went across the middle, separated from the front seat. She
stuck her head in the side door and she said, well,
first of all, let me tell you, I'm hearing rock
and roll music, seventies rock and roll music, especially Creden's
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clear Water Okay, And she said, and there's a gentleman
sitting in the corner of where these seats that you've
made very happy, very pleased, thrilled with what you're doing
with the hearse, very very large fellow, very very huge fellow.
But he loves this music. Well, I didn't know it
at that time. I didn't know that he had done
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these parties. But I sent another message back after this
to his brother who.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Had survived, who sold us the hurst, and said, I
just got to ask you a question. Did your brother,
particularly what kind of music did he play? He said,
oh yeah, it was definitely seventies music.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
But he was a real fan of Creeden Sclarewater Uh huh.
And I had seen pictures of him, but I said,
and your brother was a pretty large man, and he said,
oh yeah, he was huge. So how she was able
to zero on those are just not things that you can.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Coincidentally come up with. That just struck me as like, Okay,
so I'm glad if we're going to have a haunted hearse.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
That the previous owner of the hearse was at least
happy what we were doing with it.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Wow. That yeah, that is I mean so specific.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
When things like that happen, you scratch your head and
you say, how could that possibly be coincidence?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I know, you know, and I watch shows all the time.
I love watching these shows. But I'm you know, I'm understanding,
or I'm at least skeptic enough to go, oh, they
could have done thus and so to find out that
information or done this kind of research or whatever.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Somebody told them that they had to tell them that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
This was stuff that I'm only I knew I was
the only connecting point here to those two people that
she had no idea who we had bought this from
it was in another state. And as you say, when
you had those kinds of facts come up, it's that's
a head scratcher. It's hard to say that. Hard to
come up with any other kind of of uh, justific
not justification, explanation for it. Hard to come up with that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And things like that just continue inspiring ideas for stories.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I mean, you've written a.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Number of books, including your latest novel, Edgar, and let
me tell you this is impressive, to say the least,
all the way from concept to execution, right to the
last page.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Tell us about Edgar, I got.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I had been wanting to write a book about Edgar
Allen Poe for decades. The thing that I wanted to write,
and I say this in the introduction to the book.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I have wanted to do this.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
There's such a mystery about Poe's death, and everyone has,
you know, come up with all kinds of different possibilities, which,
by the way, his death October seventh, as we're recording
this is still that's tomorrow for us right now. That
that death has been fascinating of how why did he
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end up.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Where he did? And close there aren't.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Even his Most people assume assumed that he was in
a drunken state, because that's what the people that found
him thought. But why was he there, why was he
not wearing his own clothes? What happened to him? I
wanted to write a story about that, but this book edgar.
When I finally came down around to sitting down to
write a book about Poe, that's not the story that
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came out.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
For some reason, and I cannot explain it. I just
wanted to write a story.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I thought, you need to write one about if he
was a boy, with the premise of what if. All
the scariest things that Poe told about in his stories
were all inspired by things that happened to him when
he was a boy at fifteen years old living in Richmond, Virginia.
Wouldn't that be an interesting story? So that's the one
I wrote. And I had such fun researching things about
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Richmond at that time, finding out things about real people
in his life that I wanted to incorporate into the story.
His relationship with his adoptive parents, John Allen and Francis Allen, what.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
That would have been like.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
There was quite a bit of tension that he had
with his adopted father all those things I wanted to
work in, but I wanted to work in his stories well,
so I took thirteen or so of the stories and
reworked them a little bit, but had under the basic
premise one of his stories in which there is the
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narrator of the story, William Wilson, is the story is
a doubleganger for the narrator, he sees himself and this
covers years in this character's life, making his life miserable.
And I said, Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
That's going to be the premise story.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
The Eedgar Allen Poe has a doubleganger and it is
making his life miserable by causing these supernatural events that
will go on.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
And I can work in stories, parts.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Of post tales into the chapters, but make it one
long cohesive tale.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
When we come back more on Edgar. And then also
what happens on Halloween Night when you drive around in Asheville,
North Carolina and a hearse, Well, he has kind of
a funny story about that as well.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I'm Joshua P.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Warren.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, and I will be
back after these important messages, So stick around. Welcome back
(25:54):
to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to co
st Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Well,
it's time for the conclusion of my conversation with author
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David Allen Voyles, and we were just talking about his
brand new novel called Edgar. It actually, as I was
reading it, it inspired me to want to go back and
reread some of Poe's stories so that I could further
solidify the connections, which and that's one of the great
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things about this book is that it sort of opens
up all of these other worlds of possibility. And let
me just tell you, I don't know if you've thought
about this.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I bet you have.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
When I finished reading this, I thought to myself and
a lot of people listen to this podcast, somebody out
there needs to buy the rights to this book and
turn it into a TV series about young Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It does. I kind of picture it that way.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
It wasn't the way that I intended as I'm writing it,
but it does flow that way, and it's very episodic.
It definitely has these because each chapter, each chapter really
is going is influenced by a particular chapter or a
story of Moose. And even though it's connected all over,
it takes place over one summer. It definitely has that
kind of episodic flow.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So with a.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Connecting theme of this doppelganger, this dark Edgar that keeps
appearing and making Edgar Allan Poe's life miserable.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, it's it's just a wonderful book and I hope
everybody will go read this. We're going to give out
your website to actually go ahead and give it out
right now, what's your website address?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, it's David Alanvoiles dot com. And I spell my
Alan a little different than Edgar Allen Poe. Mine is
a L L E end, So David Alanvoyles dot com.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
We did have one.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Mentus Halloween where it was the only time this really happened,
but being an old hearse and somewhat questionable, it broke
down on Halloween night with customers in it, and that
was unbelievable. We had two or three we had made
special tours for it. Pulled up into the UNCA parking lot,
which was one of our first stops and we knew
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we were had had some questions about the Hears's mechanics
at the point, but we thought, no, we've already got
these people book for Halloween night.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It seems to be doing okay.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And Josh gave me the signal from the front seat,
kind of a line across the throat, and when he
turned around to look at him after hearing a particularly
loud clunk, like, nope, this tour is over, and we
had to pull into the parking lot and tell them
I'm sorry, but this Hears's died, unfortunately, and they laughed
and chuckled ha ha haa, thinking it was part of
the tour, and I had to say.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
This isn't part of the tour.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I'm afraid I got to call you a taxi or
aneuber and we got those folks. They were so and
so forgiving one of the couples. We didn't realize it
at the time, but we did the same thing the
following Halloween and.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Didn't realize that.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
They told me and they said, you know, we were
in that Hearst that broke down last year. But we
still loved the whole idea of it so much that
we had to do it again, and so they got
they did it, and we got the successful right out.
But I will never forget that Halloween when the Hearst died.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
One of the nice things about being in the ghost
business is that when you screw up or something breaks through, whatever,
you can just say, oh, I told you ghost for
real this year? Oh man, Well, so that opportunity give
us your website once again and anything else you'd like
to say.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The floor is yours.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
The website is David allenvoyls dot com. I also invite
people to join me on Facebook for the Dark Corners page.
It's a dark Dark Corners is the name of it,
which is also the name of the podcast that I have.
I haven't been active the podcast, but it's basically got
three seasons that you can listen to. Now I want
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to come back and revisit and add to that. But
the first season is my mention of some of my
original short stories. Season two is a novella that's in
thirteen episodes called Which Works, And the third season is
the novel in thirteen episodes as well, called Raiths of
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the Appalachian.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, David, the clock has got us, But once again,
you know, I think it's absolutely amazing that I had
the honor to be your student. I knew we had
a lot in common, but I did not realize just
how much at the time. And it's been wonderful to
remain your friend after all these decades, and I know
you will continue to surprise and entertain us with your
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amazing tales. So thank you so much for being my guest.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
It's been a thrill.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
It's my pleasure as well to be able to talk
to you with you and share those stories with you,
and I look forward to hearing even more from your
broadcasts as well.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
All Right, once again, his website is Davidallenvoyles dot com.
Of course, you could just go to Amazon and type
in his name, and as a matter of fact, I mean,
you'll find all of his books. But right now I'm
looking at Edgar when Poe's Nightmares began. I'm telling you
it's got almost five out of five. I mean practically
five out of five stars. It's like, maybe there's a
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little sliver of white, but it's basically five out of
five stars. And that's really hard to get nowadays. People
are so mean when they review stuff, and the paperback's
only thirteen dollars ninety nine cents and the Kendle is
four ninety nine, So if you like that kind of novel,
then you should check out his work. So we'll see
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what he's up to in the future. Well, I think
it would be great if we just continued this theme
of tales from the hearse and I just kept telling
you tales that are creepy and spooky for the rest
of the show. And since it's my show, that is
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what we're gonna do. And therefore, let me go right
to right to the emails that I get. I get
some of the most interesting emails from listeners. Here's one
from Paulette. She says, Hi, Joshua, the other night, my
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husband and I were listening to your podcast. We live
in the Sierra Foothills, so we are an hour from everywhere,
so we listened to you in the car. You were
talking about your friend that passed away and how you
have a word to confirm so you knew when it
was them after they passed. Well, about six years ago,
my mother passed from Kola cancer. I'm an only child
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and I have three now adult children. My mom was
a paranormal sci fi fan for as long as I
can remember, and we talked about if she ever died,
she needed to let us know she was still around.
Well toward the end of mom's life, I had to
move into help her. I lived with her about three
months before she passed away at home. The next few
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days after her passing were just a blur of making
arrangements and talking with family. After five days, my youngest
daughter was in the car with me and she looked
at me and said, Mom, I'm disappointed. I really thought
Grandma was going to let us know she was around.
And I said, well, honey, I'm sad about that too,
but I guess it just as it meant to be.
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We were sitting in the driveway at my mom's house,
where I was still living, and as we backed up,
my rear sensor went off and in my video on
the screen in the car, there was a green digital
block showing there was something in the way, and we
kind of looked at each other, and I got out
to investigate because there was nothing there. When I got
(34:09):
back in the car, I proceeded to put it in reverse,
and there it was again, that green digital block, and
we looked at each other with delight, and my daughter
said so you think it's Grandma. I said, I don't know,
and then I said, Mom, get in the car. She
went everywhere with us when she was alive. I put
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it in reverse again and well, no green block. We
were excited about it and talked about it all day,
and later that evening we were in the car again,
back in the driveway. We were telling my cousin about it,
and he said, you're crazy. We proceeded to back up
and nothing. He said it was just a fluke, and
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I said, wow, I really thought it would happen again.
I pulled back into the driveway and before I backed
out again, I said, mom, my cousin thinks I'm crazy.
Please show him what I'm talking about. We proceeded to
back up and boom. There were now two squares.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
One yellow and one green.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The square colors represent how close you are to hitting something,
and my daughter and I squealed and my cousin's eyes
just got big. Wow, he said. Then we continued on
our way. It happened one more time after that, and
this time there were three blocks, two green and one yellow.
You see, my dad passed away when I was young,
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and my mom's husband had passed several years before, and
I'm convinced this electromagnetic energy came from them. It settled
my mind about the afterworld, and in a weird way,
it comforted me because I believe the three of them
are together. It never happened again after that. That's my story,
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and I believe glad I could share this with you, Sincerely,
your fan, Paulette. Wow, thank you, Paul Atte. You know
what I said, I was going to tell you a
creepy story that wasn't creepy at all. That was very inspirational.
I love that story, and you know, it kind of
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reminds me of this idea that sometimes you can perhaps
use your car as a ghost hunting tool. I mean,
that's kind of what she was doing there. She was
using the car as an instrument to sense spirits. I mean,
for example, my wife, Lauren is from Texas and her
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mother used to live near San Antonio, and there's this
little hill outside of San Antonio where you can you
can park your car. Well, you don't park it, you
just put your car in neutral, and all of a
sudden it will start rolling up hill, or so it
seings until it goes up and over some railroad tracks,
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and the story is that some kids died when their
school bus was hit on those railroad tracks. Well, I
have an update for you when we get back. But hey, listen, look,
I promised you a creepy story, so I'm going to
give you one. I'm going to tell you about what
one person saw upon waking up. What would you do
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if you saw this at the end of your bed,
perched at the end of your bed when you wake
up in the middle of the night. I'm Joshua pe Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
(38:19):
edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And yeah, the story was that this busload of kids
back in the day was hit by a train. They
all died right there on the train tracks. And so
now if you go there and you put your car
in neutral, even though you're at the bottom of a
hill and the tracks are at the top of the hill,
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the car will just start rolling up the hill, and
we did it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And it worked.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
About thirty feet up this slight hill onto the railroad
tracks and over, and it's really an amazing experience. And
they said that if you had talcum powder and you'd
sprinkle it on the back of your car, that when
afterward you get out and you look and you'd see
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the fingerprints and the talcum powder of all the little kids.
But we didn't have any talcum powder. But the fact
of the matter is, I mean, this is what's known
as a gravity hill. It's actually an optical illusion. It's
an amazing optical illusion, though, because it really does look
like you're going uphill, and yet somehow you're not. You're
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going ultimately downhill. You'll have to look up the physics
of that. And they always said that the reason that
you would have fingerprints pop up from the talcum powder
is that you probably have a bunch of fingerprints already
all over the back of your car, all over your trunk,
and you just don't know it because you're touching it
all the time. And so when you sprinkle the talcum
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powder on there, you see them, and it's just you
combine those two effects and it's really powerful. But it
absolutely works as described. However, I just looked it up
and somebody has written here that in twenty eighteen that
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they redid the road and it changed the physics of
the road, so the effect no longer occurs.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Ha, how about that. That's kind of sad, isn't it. Hey?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
The concept is cool that you could maybe use your
car as a paranormal instrument. Why don't some of you
try out the experiment that Paulette did and let us
know what happens in your case? All right, before I
tell you this scary story, I can't help it. I
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just have a little short one here that I just love.
It's inspirational, got it. I gotta squeeze this one in
here before I get to this terrifying stuff. I got
this message from a man named Utah. His name is Roy.
He said, Joshua, I had terrible neuropathy in my left leg, burning, numbness,
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and tingling sensations due to nerve damage. But after wearing
the Tesla Purple medallion every day, the neuropathy has vanished.
After many years of suffering, I can now touch my
left leg and it feels normal, no burning at all.
Simply amazing. I am shocked at the profound results. Miraculous.
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Thank you, Roy. I don't know if you have ever
experienced in kind of neuropathy, but that is a horrible
thing and I'm just that warms my heart to know that, Roy,
you have been helped by this.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Thank you for this message. And you know.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'm not a medical professional. I'm not out there trying
to sell snake oil or anything like that. But I'm
just reading you the email the guy got. If you
want to experiment with that kind of thing, I believe
I still have some of those Tesla purple pendants in
my curiosity shop if you go to Joshuapwarren dot com.
So I just had to squeeze that one in there. Okay,
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here is a message I got from a man he
said I could use his full name, Joseph S. Peters,
regarding an incident in Houston, Texas. Going back to Texas again,
he said, the most frightening experience a child could go
through happened to me when I was four years old.
At the time, I was living with my mother in
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an apartment that seemed to exist between our realm and
a much more frighten dimension. One night, I awoke to
find a shadow creature perched at the end of my bed.
I stood up in shock while my brain was trying
to comprehend the beast that was staring me down. It
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was blacker than night, with the appearance of a cross
between a vulture and a bat. The shadow creature spread
out its wings with a span of four to five
feet as it cried a psychic screech. The sound was
so loud and terrifying that I had tears fall from
my eyes before I actually fainted. I woke up some
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time later and noticed the sliding door to the closet
in front of me was open. On the top shelf
in the corner stood the same demonic creature. I jumped up,
fearing for my life, begging the creature not to scream
that awful sound. I was scared by its screech and
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was willing to do anything not to hear it again.
The shadow beast then flew out of my closet toward me,
ultimately paralyzing my body. I could only think this was
the end, for surely this bat from hell would kill me. Then,
in a split second, it turned around and flew through
the door, going.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Out in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Once it was gone. I regained control over my body
and I screamed out at the top of my lungs
for my mother, who was sleeping next to me. She
woke up and asked me what the problem was. Not
knowing how to describe my experience, I told her something
was in our house and that it was trying to
get me. And my mother immediately looked through every room
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to find the intruder and returned to the bed, saying
there was nothing in the apartment. This was not the
first paranormal event in the apartment, nor would it be
the last. As for the shadow creature, I can only
assume it was a demon. However it appeared to me,
And why would it appear to me, I would never
know before we left that place, long before we could
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find that out. Now you might say, well, this is
just coming from a four year old.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Kids are capable of seeing things that adults cannot see,
and I remember things very vividly from when I was
four years old. As a matter of fact, I've told
you this before. I remember I have memories of being in.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
The crib.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
And not being able to talk. My very first memory
that I have. I mean I'm talking to. My very
first memory was cookie Monster, and because my mom and
dad had bought me a big, blue, furry cookie Monster.
And at whatever, I don't know what point this happened
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to me, but I was a baby who couldn't even speak,
lying their helpless in a crib, and I remember very
clearly seeing Cookie Monster. And I've heard that. You know,
you're not supposed to be able to remember that far back,
but I sure could. Here's a story from Joe in Canton, Ohio.
He says, my grandfather passed away in the mid nineteen eighties.
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We sold his vehicle as we were selling some of
his possessions. My mother and grandmother signed the title and
the new owner came to pick up the vehicle. They
could not find the car keys anywhere. The house was
searched from top to bottom in drawers and closets, on
shelves and tables, they were nowhere to be found. A
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few days later, my mother arrived at my grandma's house
and found her to be distraught. My mother asked what
was wrong, and she would only reply that she had
found the keys. My mother was happy to hear the
news and ask where they'd been. My grandmother replied on
the floor in the middle of the bathroom. We certainly
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would have found them quickly if they'd been their days earlier.
It seemed like Grandpa didn't want to sell the car.
And now I've read this one to you before, but
it's one of my favorites. This came to me from
Thomas Kelly, Minneapolis, Minnesota. He says, in nineteen ninety seven,
my girlfriend and I were renting a huge, beautiful, old
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duplex in South Minneapolis. My girlfriend worked the night shift
ten pm to seven am. I would go to bed
just after she left her work, and she would wake
me in the morning when she returned home. One morning,
she woke me up and asked me why there was
a butcher knife in the bathtub. I told her I
had no idea, and we laughed it off. A few
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weeks later, she woke me up and asked why there
were bone cutters in the bathtub, and again we laughed
it off, as the kitchen was adjacent to the bathroom
and the butcher block knife holder was on the counter
just outside the bathroom. A month or so later, a
similar thing happened. My girlfriend asked me why the bone
cutters were in the bathroom sink. This continued for three years,
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probably ten times. Somehow in the night the cutlery would
end up in the bathroom, in the bathtub or the
sink one time, and the toilet one night. The butcher
knife was lying at the foot of our bed. During
our last weekend in the duplex, we threw a party
and invited the downstairs tenant and all the tenants, and
there was a couple who had lived in the building
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for years, and when the subject of the landlord came up,
we both went white when they told us in nineteen
sixty eight, our landlord's mother had committed suicide in our unit,
in the bathtub with a butcher knife. Okay, let's clear
the air and in the show. On a positive note,
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take a deep breath. If you can't close your eyes.
Here is the good Fortune tone. That's it for this
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