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January 9, 2026 53 mins

Join Sandra to examine the Bigelow Contest’s 2nd Prize winning evidence from Dr. Pim Van Lommel. Discover medical impossibilities, why the brain is just a receiver, and new proof that our loved ones are always connected to us in "the cloud".

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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know

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that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Back in
twenty twenty one, a billionaire aerospace engineer named Robert Bigelow
did something that shook up the scientific community. He created
a global contest. He wasn't looking for new rocket designs

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or space station blueprints. He was looking for something even
more elusive. He put up one point eight million dollars
in prize money and challenged the world's best scientists, doctors,
and researchers to answer one specific question, what is the

(01:45):
best available evidence for the survival of human consciousness after
permanent bodily death. He wanted proof, not faith, not philosophy,
but evidence that could stand up in a court of
law beyond a reasonable doubt. You might remember back in
episode two hundred and forty four I introduced you to

(02:07):
the first prize winner of that contest, doctor Jeffrey Mishlev.
He gave us a brilliant overview of the history of parapsychology.
But today I want to take you to the second
prize winner, and honestly, his evidence hits a little harder
for many of us because it doesn't come from history books.

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It comes from the emergency room. The second prize of
the Bigelow Contest one two. Doctor Pym van Lommel. Doctor
van Lommel is a cardiologist from the Netherlands. For decades
he worked in the trenches of modern medicine, fighting to
save lives in the coronary care unit. His laboratory wasn't

(02:47):
a library, it was the resuscitation room, where the line
between life and death is drawn in seconds. His winning
essay is titled The Continuity of Consciousness, and today we're
going to tear it apart and look at the incredible
evidence he compiled. On this episode, we're going to explore
some truly incredible stories. We'll talk about fighter pilots and

(03:10):
why their blackouts prove that near death experiences are not
just hallucinations. We're going to hear the medical impossibility of
a three year old girl who had half of her
brain removed yet somehow regained full function, proving the mind
is much greater than the organ. We're going to discuss

(03:31):
shared death experiences, where a healthy person standing at a
bedside actually joins the dying person on their journey into
the light. And we're going to look at DNA not
just as a biological blueprint, but as a potential antenna
that receives your soul. But first we have to start

(03:53):
where doctor van Lommel started, and surprisingly he did not
start as a believer, started exactly where most doctors do,
and maybe where you and I started as a skeptic.
It was nineteen sixty nine. He was a young doctor
just starting his cardiology training. In the coronary care unit,

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a patient suffered a massive heart attack and went into
cardiac arrest. The alarm sounded, Doctor van Lammel and his
team rushed in. They administered two electric shocks for four
long minutes. This patient was clinically dead. He had no
heartbeat and he wasn't breathing. His brain activity had ceased.

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Then finally they got a rhythm. The monitor started beeping
again and the patient regained consciousness. The medical team was relieved.
They were high fiving each other. They had saved life.
This was a huge victory. But the patient he wasn't happy.
In fact, he was extremely disappointed. He looked at the
young doctor Van Lammel and told him that during those

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four minutes of death, while the doctors were panicking, he
had been in a place of incredible beauty. He spoke
of a tunnel. He spoke of colors that he had
never seen on earth. He spoke of a light that
was alive, and of music that filled him with peace.
He was actually angry that they had pulled him back

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from this paradise. And brought him back in a broken
and very painful body. At that time, in nineteen sixty nine,
the term near death experience didn't yet exist. Doctor van
Lommel had been taught in medical school that consciousness is
a product of the brain. When the heart stops, the

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blood stops. When the blood stops, the brain stops, and
when the brain stops, you stop. It is medically impossible
to have a complex lucid memory from a moment when
the brain is offline. And yet here was this man
reporting exactly that. That first moment planted a seed of

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curiosity in doctor van Lommel that would eventually lead to
one of the most famous prospective studies in medical history.
He realized that if he wanted to understand this, he
couldn't just rely on whispers and rumors. He needed hard data,
So in nineteen eighty eight he launched a massive study

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across ten Dutch hospitals. They didn't just wait for people
to come forward with interesting stories. They interviewed every single
person who survived a cardiac arrest within a few days
of their resuscitation. They found that eighteen percent of these survivors,
people who had been clinically dead, reported a near death experience.

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Now I know what skeptics say, and I used to
say this myself. Oh, that's probably just a hallucination. It's
just the brain firing off random neurons as it runs
out of oxygen. They call it anoxia, they say. The
skeptics say that is the tunnel is just the eye
shutting down, and the lights are just random sparks. But

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in his essay, doctor Van Lommel destroys that argument with
a brilliant comparison. He compares these cardiac patients to fighter
jet pilots. Think about it. When fighter pilots are in
a centrifuge training for high gravity, or when they pull
a high G maneuver in the sky, the blood drains

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from their brains, they lose consciousness. It's called g lock
G force induced loss of consciousness. Their brains are starved
of oxygen, just like a cardiac arrest patient. So if
oxygen deprivation causes NDEs, then every pilot who blacks out

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should meet their grandmother and see the light, right, But
of course they don't. Doctor Van Lommel points out that
pilots report tunnel vision sometimes, but it's just their vision narrowing.
They report confusion They report fragmented, random images, but they
never ever report a life review. They never ever report

(08:19):
meeting deceased relatives, They never report a feeling of unconditional
love or coming home, and they certainly don't come back transformed,
wanting to change their lives and love everyone. If NDEs
or just a dying brain glitch caused by low oxygen.
Every pilot fainting in a centrifuge and every heart attack

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survivor should have one, but they don't. Only eighteen percent
of cardiac survivors do, and the ones that do report
experiences that are hyper real, structured, and life changing. This
proves that the near death experience is not a hallucination
of a dying brain. It's something else entirely, and the

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strongest evidence for that it comes from when patients see
things they simply cannot see with their human eyes. This
brings us to a famous case in doctor Van Lommel's research.
It's the story of the dentures Man. It happened during
a night shift at a hospital in the Netherlands. An
ambulance rushed in with a forty four year old man

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who had been found comatose in a meadow. He had
suffered a massive cardiac arrest. When he arrived, he was blue,
he wasn't breathing, he was cold. For all intents and purposes,
he was dead. The medical team rushed to put a
tube down his throat so a machine could breathe for him,

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but when they tried to put the scope in his mouth,
they hit an obstruction. This man had a full set
of upper dentures. A nurse quickly reached in removed his dentures,
and in the chaos of saving his life, she put
them on the crash cart. The crash cart is that
rolling medical cabinet full of emergency medications and defibrillators. This

(10:12):
nurse specifically remembers putting the teeth on a cart that
had all these bottles on it and a sliding drawer underneath.
They worked on this man for an hour and a half.
Finally they got a heartbeat, but he didn't wake up.
He remained in a deep coma on a respirator for
more than a week. On week number two, that same

(10:34):
nurse was walking through the cardiac ward passing out medication.
The patient was finally awake. The moment he saw her,
he pointed a shaking finger and said, oh, that nurse
knows where my dentures are. The nurse was stunned. She
had only seen him once, and he was a blue,
lifeless body being pounded on by the doctors. But the

(10:55):
man continued. He looked at her and said, you were
there when I was brought into the hospital. You took
my dentures out of my mouth and put them onto
that cart. It had all these bottles on it, and
there was this sliding drawer underneath, and there you put
my teeth medically. This man was unconscious, his eyes were closed,
his brain was starved of oxygen. He should have had

(11:17):
zero awareness. Of course, he didn't make a lucky guess.
He described the nurse and the specific cart and the
sliding drawer. He even told them later that he had
seen himself lying in the bed. He watched the doctors
and the nurses working on his body from up above.
He saw the panic, He saw the whole procedure. He

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saw where his teeth went. Doctor Van Lommel argues that
this case and many others like it, proves that consciousness
is what they call non local. It's not locked inside
our skull. He uses the analogy of a television or
a computer. Think about the Internet. The Internet isn't inside

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your laptop. Your laptop is just the receiver. It receives
the signal from the cloud. You smash your laptop, the
Internet doesn't disappear. The signal is still there. You just
can't access it with that device anymore. Your brain is
the laptop. Your consciousness is the signal. When the brain

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flatlines when the computer breaks during a heart attack, The
signal doesn't die. In fact, Doctor van Lommel argues that
the signal might even become clearer because the filter of
the brain is gone. You are no longer limited by
the biological machine. You are free. But if our consciousness

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is not in the brain, where is it and what
does that mean for our physical bodies. Doctor Van Lommel
has some theories about how our very cells, our DNA
might act as antennas for our souls. Will dive into
that in our next segment. We'll be right back. You're
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Speaker 3 (14:22):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
In the last segment, we looked at the dentures Man
and the Blue Man, stories that prove that consciousness can
exist when the heart has stopped and the brain is flatlined.
Doctor Pym van Lammels Bigelow's second prize winning essay presents
cases where the brain is not just quiet, but physically incapacitated.

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We're even missing. Here is an example of a three
year old girl. This little girl suffered from a severe
chronic inflammation of the brain called encephalitis. It was causing
intractable epilepsy, meaning seizures that wouldn't stop. The doctors had
no choice to save her life. They had to perform

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a radical surgery, and they removed the entire left hemisphere
of her brain. Now, in a normal adult, the left
hemisphere controls our language, logic, and the movement of the
right side of the body. If you took out the
left half of an adult's brain, the results would be catastrophic.

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They would likely be paralyzed on the right side, unable
to speak and unable to understand language. But let's look
at this little girl. Doctor van Lammel reports that a
year after her operation, the child showed almost no symptoms.
She was running, she was jumping, and most incredibly, she
was fluent in two languages. How is that possible. The

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part of the machine that produces language was thrown in
the medical waste bin. It was gone, and yet the
function remained. Doctor Van Lammel uses this as proof of
something we now call neuroplasticity, but he takes it one
step further. He argues that if the brain were the

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producer of the mind, removing half of the factory should
reduce the production by fifty percent. But it didn't. The mind,
the consciousness of that little girl was whole. It simply
found a new way to use the remaining hardware. It
proves that the self is not the organ called the brain.

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He also points to cases where the brain is chemically silenced,
like under general anesthesia. We assume that when we go
under for surgery, we are gone, the lights are out,
nobody's home. But doctor van Lommel shares a story that'll
make us think twice about what we say around a
sleeping patient. A patient was undergoing surgery. They were fully anesthesized,

(16:56):
but suddenly they found themselves hovering above the operating table.
They were looking down at their own body. They could
see the lamp, they could see the doctors, and they
heard someone say something very specific. They heard a surgeon
shout and my apologies for saying this, hurry up, you
bloody bastard. Later, when the patient woke up, they confronted

(17:20):
the doctor. They repeated the words back to him. The
doctor was shocked. He confirmed he had said that about him.
But here's the kicker. The patient said, I didn't just
hear you talk, I could read the minds of everybody
in the room. This suggests that when we are free
of the body, our communication isn't just hearing sound waves,

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it is direct mind to mind connection. We my friends,
become telepathic. This idea of telepathy and connection leads us
to a beautiful and emotional type of evidence. Doctor van
Lommel discuss the shared death experience. Usually we think of
near death experiences as something that happens only to the

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dying person, but sometimes a healthy person sitting at the
bedside gets to go along for the ride. Doctor van
Lommel shares the story of a man who was at
the hospital bedside of his girlfriend's young son. The boy
was just seven years old. He had been in a
terrible accident and had severe head trauma. His brain was destroyed. Now,

(18:32):
tragedy upon tragedy the boy's mother, this man's girlfriend, Anne,
had died in the same accident just five days earlier.
So here's this man standing by the bedside of a
dying seven year old boy, mourning the loss of his
girlfriend and worried about the boy. The room is filled

(18:53):
with crying relatives. The moment the boy died, the moment
the EEG flatline, and something miraculous happened. This man said,
I saw that his mother came to collect him, and
she had died five days earlier. But there was this incredible,
beautiful reunion. But he didn't just watch. He was invited in,

(19:18):
he said. At one point they reached out for me
and included me in their embrace. This was an indescribable,
ecstatic reunion. Part of me left my body and accompanied
them into the light. Imagine that he is physically standing
in a hospital room, fully healthy, but his consciousness detaches.

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He joins his deceased girlfriend and her dying son. He
travels with them toward the light. He feels the love,
he feels the glow of happiness. Then he reached a
point where he knew he couldn't go any further. He
fell back, he said, into his body. He suddenly became
aware of the hospital room again, and he realized something awkward.

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Everyone else in the room was crying, devastated by the
boy's death, but he had a huge smile on his face.
He had to cover his face with his hands because
he didn't want to seem disrespectful. He was glowing with
joy inside because he knew that the boy wasn't dead,
that he was with his mother, that they were safe,

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and that they were together. Doctor van Lommel includes this
story because it defies the medical explanation of a dying brain.
This man's brain wasn't dying, It wasn't lacking oxygen, he
wasn't on any drugs. He was a healthy observer who
was pulled into the consciousness field of the dying. It

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proves that this field of love and light is real
and it is accessible. It proves that when we die,
we are all met, we are collected. So we have
a girl functioning with half a brain, we have a
patient hearing doctors while under anesthesia, and we have a
healthy man joining in on a deathbed journey. All of

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these stories point to one conclusion. Consciousness is not a
side effect of biology. It is fundamental. It is primary.
But if consciousness is primary, how does it interact with
our physical world? How does a thought change a cell?
Doctor Van Lommel believes the answer lies in the strange

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world of quantum physics and the hidden power of our DNA.
To understand this, we have to look at what doctor
van Lommel calls the interface. In his essay, he argues
that we need to stop thinking of the brain as
a hard drive that stores our memories. Instead, we need
to think of the brain and by extension, our DNA

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as a transceiver. It is a transmitter and a receiver. Again,
think about the cloud. When you access a website or
a photo on your phone. That photo isn't physically inside
your phone's microchips. It is stored in the cloud. Your
phone is just the interface that pulls it down so

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that you can see it. Doctor van Lommel says our
bodies work the same way. Your self, your memories, your personality,
they are all stored in the cloud of our non
local consciousness. Your brain and your DNA are the antenna
that pulls that signal down into our three dimensions. This

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explains why when the brain is damaged or flatlined, the
cloud doesn't disappear. The signal is still there, the device
just can't display it anymore. And doctor van Lommel says
this isn't just a one way street. The signal doesn't
just play through the body. The signal can actually change

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the body. He points to the science of neuroplasticity. For
a long time scientists believed the brain was fixed, that
once you were an adult, your brain structure was set
in stone. But doctor Van Lommel highlights evidence showing that
the mind, your thoughts, your consciousness can physically rewrite the

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hardware of your brain. He talks about the placebo effect.
We often dismissed placebos as fake, but doctor Van Loammo
says they are proof of the mind's power. In one study,
he cites, patients with depression were given a sugar pill,
a placebo, they thought they were getting medicine, and guess

(23:38):
what Their brain scans showed actual physical changes. The activity
in their brain changed just as much as the people
who got the real drugs. So a thought a purely
non physical thing created a physical chemical change in the body.

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He also talks about meta meditation. He references studies on
Buddhist monks who have spent thousands of hours in meditation.
Their brain waves are fundamentally different. They have permanently altered
the structure of their brains by focusing their consciousness. This
is the hidden power we spoke about earlier. If your

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consciousness is primary and your body is just the receiver,
then you have the power to tune the receiver. You
are not a victim of your biology. You, my friend,
are the driver of it. Doctor van Lommel's research leads
us to this conclusion. The brain doesn't produce the mind

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any more than a radio produces the music. And just
as the music continues even if you smash the radio,
you continue when this physical body finally wears out. So
if we are eternal, non local beings, where do we
go when we leave the body? And what about our
loved ones who have already made that journey? Can we

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still communicate with them? Doctor Pim van Lommel says yes.
In our next segment, together, we're going to look at
the evidence for after death communication. We'll hear about the
pery mortal experiences where people know a loved one has
died even before the phone rings, and the verified cases

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of people seeing deceased relatives they didn't even know we're dead.
The cloud is filled with our loved ones, my friend,
and our connections never break. So take a look around
right now. We live in this illusion that we have
to see it to believe it. But just like the
GPS signals, the radio waves, the television signals, you can

(25:52):
imagine all the satellites that are hovering around planet Earth
right now, sending these invisible signals. We can't see them,
and they are very real. So when we think about
our loved ones, our pets included, are still vibrating on
frequencies we can't see them, but their energy still exists.

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And of course you know, I believe they continue to
learn and explore on the other side, but they're only
a thought away from us, vibrating in the same invisible
space all around us. We'll be right back. You're listening
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain.
We've been exploring the prize winning research of cardiologist doctor
Pim van Lommel. We've looked at the hardware side of things,
how our brains act as receivers, and how our DNA
might be the antennas that connect us to the universe.
But if our consciousness is a signal stored in the cloud,

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a non local field that exists outside of space and time,
then a huge question arises. If I am in the
cloud and my deceased grandmother is in the cloud, can
we connect? Can we still communicate? Doctor Van Lommel says
the answer is a definite yes. And he doesn't just

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base this on hope. He bases it on cases where
information is transferred from the dead to the living in
ways that are scientifically impossible to explain. He categorizes these
into different types of contact. The first one is what
he calls perry mortal experience, parry meaning around or near.

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These are experiences that happen at the exact moment someone dies.
That they happened to a loved one who is miles
away and has no idea that the death is occurring.
Here's a story from a mother. It was the end
of the year two thousand. The mother was at home,
going about her evening. She had no reason to worry,

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but suddenly something strange happened. She described seeing a literal
sphere of light enter her window. It moved across the
room and entered her forehead. In that instant, she said,
she became awareness without a body. She was in a
place profoundly lit, feeling a sense of spacious depth. In

(30:12):
this state of pure awareness, she felt the presence of
her eldest son. He had been suffering from chronic pain
for years, but in this vision she heard words clearly
spoken to her. There is nothing wrong, and there has
never been anything wrong. She felt it in every cell

(30:32):
of her body, a total sense of peace and well
being regarding her son. The next day, the police knocked
on her door. They told her that her son had
died by suicide. When they gave the estimated time of death,
it matched exactly the moment the sphere of light entered
her room. Doctor Van Lommel uses this case to show

(30:55):
that consciousness is instantaneous. The moment the sun left his body,
his consciousness, his signal, reached out to the person he
was closest to. That was his mother. He didn't need
a phone, he didn't need wires. They were entangled in
this non local field. But sometimes the communication happens days

(31:17):
or weeks later. That is what we call after death
communication or ADC's. Now skeptics love to dismiss ADC's. They say, oh,
you're just grieving, you're imagining. It's wishful thinking. But doctor
van Lommel presents a case that destroys the wishful thinking
argument because it involves solving a crime. The story comes

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from a woman whose father had been murdered. It was
a cold case. Three weeks had passed and the police
had hit a dead end. They had no leads, no suspects.
They even put a plea in the newspaper asking for help.
The daughter was devastated, but then she started having dreams.
There are three nights in a row. Her father appeared

(32:02):
to her, but he didn't just say I love you.
He gave her specific instructions. He told her to look
in specific files in his office. On the third night,
the communication became even more precise. He gave her a
specific name and a specific date. The daughter was terrified.

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She thought, if I call the police with this, they're
going to think I'm a lunatic. But the dream was
far too real to ignore. She called the head of
the ATF who was working the case. She told him,
I know this sounds insane, but my father told me
to look for this name. The agent looked it up.

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The name was real and the date was real. Because
of that dream, the police were able to find the
person who then gave up the names of the people
involved in the murder. That is data, that is information transfer.
Thought from the other side was still conscious, still aware

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of justice, and still able to access his own memories
to help his daughter. Doctor Van Lommel argues that this
cloud of consciousness isn't just for the dead. It's a
field of infinite information that living people tap into as well.
He devotes a fascinating section of his essay to genius

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and inspiration. Where does a sudden scientific breakthrough come from?
Where does a symphony come from? Doctor Van Lommel points
out that Mozart famously said he didn't compose his music.
He heard it in his head, fully formed, and then
just rushed to write it down. He wasn't inventing it,

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he was downloading it. He mentions the chemist who created
the periodic table, he had been struggling for years to
organize the elements. Then in a sudden brain wave, a
flash of insight, he saw the entire table clearly. Doctor
van Lammle suggests that these geniuses are simply people whose

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receiver is tuned perfectly to the non local cloud. They
are accessing information that exists outside of their own brain.
So whether it is a murdered father solving his own
crime or Mozart hearing a symphony, the mechanism is the same.
It's connection, and sometimes that connection is verified by two

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people at once. This is called the shared ADC. Doctor
van Lammle shares a story of a woman whose mother
had died after a long illness involving paralysis and a
brain hemorrhage. Three days after the funeral, the daughter was sleeping.
Suddenly she was woken up by a strange cold feeling

(34:53):
in the room. She rolled over and saw her mother,
but not the sick, paralyzed mother she had known. At
the end. She saw her mother dressed in white, radiating light,
smiling and beautiful. Her mother touched her shoulder and communicated telepathically,
everything is all right now, and there is nothing for

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you to worry about. The daughter fell back asleep, thinking
it was just a vivid dream. The next afternoon, she
went to her father's room to tell him about it,
but before she could get the words out, her father
looked at her with wide eyes and said, you'll never
guess what happened last night. He told her. In the
middle of the night, a cold feeling woke me up,

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and I saw your mother at the end of the bed.
She was radiating light, and she was dressed in white,
and she touched me and said that I shouldn't be
worried about her. Here is the detail that makes this
so powerful. The father was a rational doctor. He didn't
believe in ghosts, he didn't talk about spiritual things, and

(35:58):
yet he had the exact same visitation, with the exact
same details, at the exact same time as his daughter.
This is not a hallucination. That is a family reunion.
Doctor Van Lommel points to what might be the most
startling evidence of all, and that's meeting people you didn't
even know we're dead. In a hallucination, your brain projects

(36:21):
what it already knows. You can't hallucinate a stranger and
then find out later they are your long lost relative.
The brain can't invent information it doesn't have, but in
the cloud of consciousness that information exists. Doctor Van Lommel
recounts the story of a man who had a near
death experience during cardiac arrest. In his vision, he saw

(36:45):
his deceased grandmother. That makes sense, right, He knew her,
he loved her. But standing next to his grandmother was
a man he didn't recognize, a man who looked at
him with incredible love. The patient came back to life
and didn't think much of it. He assumed it was
just a random spirit. Ten years went by, and then

(37:06):
when his mother was on her deathbed, she called him
close and said, I have a confession to make. She
told him that the man who raised him wasn't his
biological father. She revealed that his biological father was a
Jewish man who had been deported and killed during the
Second World War. She then handed him a photograph of

(37:29):
his real father. The patient looked at the photo and froze.
It was the man from his near death experience, the
man he had seen ten years earlier standing next to
his grandmother. He had met his own father in heaven,
a decade before he even knew his father existed. And

(37:49):
before we wrap up this segment, I want to share
one more piece of evidence from doctor Van Lommel's essay
that I think you'll find fascinating. It falls under the
category of scientific trivia. It's called the Global Consciousness Project.
Originally started at Princeton University, researchers placed devices called random

(38:09):
number generators all over the world. These are just machines
that spit out random zeros and ones twenty four hours
a day. They're supposed to be completely unpredictable, but doctor
Van Lommel notes so that these machines stop being random
during major global events, when Princess Diana died or during

(38:29):
the attacks on nine to eleven moments, when millions of
people were focused on the same tragedy and the same grief,
the machines changed. They started generating organized patterns. Think about
that these machines weren't connected to the news. They were
connected to people, but the intense synchronized emotion of human

(38:51):
consciousness was strong enough to physically alter the behavior of
machines on the other side of the planet. Doctor van
Lommel says, this is proof that our consciousness is not
just a personal signal. It is a physical force. We
are constantly broadcasting my friends and the world. Even the

(39:13):
physical world is listening. These stories. The Perry mortal sphere
of light, the murdered father solving his own case, the
shared vision of the mother, the meeting with the unknown
father are the bricks that built doctor van Lommel's argument
and won him second place in the contest. They prove

(39:35):
that we are all connected in a vast, invisible web.
Doctor van Lommele calls it interconnectedness. It means that no
one is ever truly lost. The signal is always there,
The love is always broadcasting. We just have to tune
into it. Doctor van Lommel's essay concludes with a powerful

(39:57):
message about what this means for us right now. Well,
because if we are eternal, if we are connected, and
if our thoughts create reality, then how should we be
living our lives. In our final segment, we're going to
look at the transformation. We'll hear how these experiences change
people forever, and finally the beautiful advice doctor Ben Lommel

(40:21):
gives to the medical world and to us. We'll be
right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on
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Well, you're a long Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain.
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain.

(41:33):
We've been on quite a journey today with the work
of cardiologist doctor Pym Van Lommel, We've seen the medical
evidence of the dentures man who saw his own resuscitation,
heard the stories of the blue man who was angry
at being saved, and the healthy man who shared a
deathbed vision. We've looked at the science of the brain
being a receiver and the undeniable cases of after death

(41:57):
communications solving crimes. But doctor Van Lommeole saves his strongest
argument for last. He says that skeptics can try to
explain away the tunnels and the lights. They can say, oh,
it's just a chemical dump in the brain, But there
is one thing that a chemical dump cannot explain, transformation.

(42:18):
If you have a hallucination, say if you take a
drug or have a fever dream, you wake up, you
might say, wow, that was really weird, and then you
go back to being exactly who you were before. A
hallucination doesn't rewrite your personality, it doesn't change your moral code,
but a near death experience does. In his famous eight

(42:41):
year prospective study, doctor Van Lomole found that the people
who had a near death experience were fundamentally different people
eight years later compared to cardiac survivors who didn't have one.
The changes were profound, they had last their fear of
death completely. They had a significantly stronger belief in and afterlife.

(43:08):
They became less interested in money, status, and possessions. They
became more interested in nature, social justice, and helping others.
They displayed more emotion and more love. Doctor Van Lommel
calls this objective proof of a subjective experience. You can't

(43:30):
measure the vision they had, but you can measure the
person they became. And the person they became is proof
that they touched something very real. But why do they
change what happens in that realm that rewrites a person's character.
Doctor Van Lommel argues it is because of the life review.

(43:52):
In a life review, you don't just watch a movie
of your life. You relive it. But here's the catch.
You don't just feel your own emotions. You feel the
emotions and the experience of every single person you interacted with.
If you were kind to someone, you feel their relief
and joy as if it were your own. But if

(44:14):
you are cruel to someone, you feel their pain and
their sorrow as if it were your own. Doctor Van
Lommel explains that this happens because in that non local consciousness,
there is no separation. You realize that you are the
other person. You are connected. He uses the analogy of

(44:35):
a hologram. In a hologram, every tiny piece of the
film contains the image of the whole in the universe.
Every individual consciousness contains the whole of humanity. When experiencers
return from that state of total connection, they can no
longer hurt another person because they realize if I hurt you,

(45:00):
I am literally hurting myself. This isn't just a moral
rule they learned in Sunday School. It's a physical reality
they experienced. That is why the transformation is permanent. That
is why they can't go back to being selfish. They
have seen the truth. Separation is an illusion. We are one.

(45:21):
And there is one more detail about this place that
doctor Van Lomel reveals which completely shatters our understanding of reality.
It's not just about looking back at your life. He
reports that many experiencers also experience a flash forward when
they are out of their bodies. They don't just see
the past. They see glimpses of the future. They see

(45:45):
children who haven't been born yet, they see future career changes.
They see specific scenes from their life that are ten
or twenty years down the road, and verifiably years later,
these events come true exactly as they saw them during
their cardiac arrest. Doctor van Lommele says this proves that

(46:05):
time as we know it, the ticking clock, is just
an illusion of our physical brains and the realm of consciousness. Past, present,
and future are all happening at once in an eternal Now.
That's pretty comforting. It implies that your life isn't just
a series of random, chaotic events. It suggests that there

(46:27):
might be a plan, a purpose, and a destiny that
your soul is already aware of, even if your brain
hasn't caught up yet. However, doctor van Lommel is very
honest in his essay about the price of this knowledge.
Evalidates something that many spiritually awakened people struggle with. The
return is hard. Imagine coming back from a place of total,

(46:51):
unconditional love, where you are connected to the entire universe
and maybe even see your own loved ones, and suddenly
your squeak back into a heavy, painful body. You are
back in a world of traffic jams, taxes, petty arguments,
and materialism. He notes that it can take years for

(47:13):
people to integrate this experience. They often suffer from depression,
not because they are sad, but because they are homesick.
They miss the light and the love. He points out
a startling statistic. The divorce rate among people who have
had a near death experience is over seventy percent. Why

(47:34):
because the person who came back isn't the same person
who left. The husband who cared about the new car
and the country club is gone has been replaced by
a man who wants to sit in nature and talk
about the soul. If the partner can't understand that shift,
the relationship often crumbles. This is important evidence too. A

(47:55):
hallucination doesn't cause you to divorce your spouse and change
your career. Only a life altering truth does that. He
also discusses a fascinating side effect of this rewiring of consciousness.
It's called enhanced intuition. It seems that once the receiver
the brain has been fully opened to the non local cloud,

(48:18):
it never quite closes all the way again. Doctor Van
Lommel reports that many of his patients acquired what we
would call paranormal gifts. They became highly sensitive to the
feelings of others. They could sense when someone was sick.
They had precognitive dreams they knew who was calling before
the phone rang. It's as if their antenna got upgraded.

(48:42):
They are now picking up more channels than just their own.
They are permanently tuned into that interconnectedness. And this leads
to doctor Van Lommo's most passionate plea. He isn't just
writing this for scientists. He is writing it for doctors, nurses,
and for each of us. He says that our current

(49:02):
medical system is based on a lie. We treat the
body as a machine that needs to be fixed, and
we treat death as the ultimate failure. Because of this,
we sedate dying people. We ignore their stories about seeing
deceased relatives. We dismiss their terminal lucidity as confusion. We

(49:24):
treat death as a medical problem to be solved, rather
than a spiritual transition to be honored. He writes, our
ideas about death define how we live our life. Think
about that. If you believe death is the end, if
you believe consciousness is just a chemical accident, then you

(49:46):
live in fear. You hoard your resources, you compete with others,
You cling to the temporary, You identify with your body,
so you are terrified of aging. But if you know,
as doctor v Lomo knows, that consciousness is eternal, everything changes.
He says, death is only the end of our physical aspects.

(50:10):
When you realize this, you realize that how you treat
people matters infinitely more than what you own. You realize
that every thought you have influences the whole. You realize
that you are not a temporary biological accident, that you
are an eternal being having a temporary human experience. He

(50:34):
closes his essay with a quote from Plato, written two
thousand years ago. Death is an awakening, a remembering of
the soul. I like that, isn't that beautiful? You aren't
going to die, You are going to wake up. There's
so much more in this incredible essay, and if you'd

(50:55):
like to read the whole thing, and of course the
other winning essays that the Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies held,
written by some of the most brilliant minds on the planet,
you can read them all for free. Just go to
Bigelowinstitute dot org. And I encourage you to check out
doctor Pim van Lammel's book, which is called Consciousness Beyond

(51:19):
Life The Science of Near Death Experience and his website
is Pim Vanlommel dot NL and L for Netherlands. As
we wrap up today, I want to leave you with
a thought from doctor van Lommel's conclusion. He says that
when we understand the continuity of consciousness, we realize that

(51:41):
we are enfolded in pure, unconditional love. That love isn't
something you have to earn, It isn't something you have
to wait until you die to feel. It is the
very fabric of the universe you are living in right now.
Your brain is the receiver, The signal is love of
So this week, try to tune your receiver in just

(52:04):
a little better. Why don't we all try to quiet
the noise, listen to our intuition, pay attention to synchronicities
or coincidences, and know that the people you miss are
not gone. They have just stepped out of the physical
room and into the non local cloud that surrounds us all.
They are part of the signal, and so are you.

(52:27):
As a reminder, come visit me at We Don't Die
dot com, Join my mailing list, get a free copy
of my book, and so much more. We have our
free Sunday Gathering inspirational service on Zoom every week I'd
love to meet you. A medium demonstration is included. Also,
if you didn't hear the big news, we have a

(52:48):
new We Don't Die film that just got released. Currently
it is airing on Apple TV. I'll let you know
when it comes to more places. But on Apple TV,
just search for Evidence of the Afterlife. It's about bringing
more integrity into the world of evidential mediumship. In closing,

(53:08):
I'm Sandra Champlain. I want you to remember that you
are eternal. You are one of a kind. Keep expressing
yourself as a radiant being you are. You're deeply loved,
my friend. Thank you so much for listening to Shades
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