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Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird Strange
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at home, and a lot more. On this edition of
the show. Snake, Donkey and Eagle talking animals in the Bible.
Whether or not you believe the stories in the Bible.
I believe that the Bible is the most paranormal book
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ever written. It's got everything in there that you can imagine.
I mean, we're talking about a spiritual battle and at
most of the stories in the Bible, in my opinion,
are creepy. Well, we'll talk more about that later, because
there are only three times when an animal supposedly speaks
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in the Bible. A snake speaks, a donkey speaks, and
an eagle speaks. And we're going to explore each of
these incidents and see what we think of them. But
first off, on a lighter note, let me ask you
a trivia question. I guess that the highest honor you
can receive as an author is to win the Nobel
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Prize for Literature. And so the first person to win
the Nobel Prize for Literature was also the youngest person
to date to ever win the Nobel Prize for literature.
Who do you think it was? Hmmm, all right, here's
the answer. The answer is Rudyard Kipling. Rudyard Kipling. He
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was an Englishman and he is most famous because in
eighteen ninety four he wrote The Jungle Book, and at
least he published it in eighteen ninety four. The Jungle
Book was a collection of stories about this boy named
Mowgli who is lost in the jungle, the jungles of
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India and raised by wolves, and as he grows up
he ends up being able to communicate with all these
different animals. And the book is full of life lessons
about you know, survival and identity and the laws of
nature and all these kinds of things. And when I
was a kid, one of my favorite Disney movies was
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The Jungle Book. It came out in nineteen sixty seven.
And as a matter of fact, the Jungle Book was
the last movie that Walt Disney personally worked on himself.
And one thing about because you know, he died right
before it was finished, and so when it came out,
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it was it was a huge, huge hit. And I
just thought of this little, uh tid bit of information
that you might find intriguing when it comes to Walt Disney.
Walt Disney, he was so involved, so personally involved with
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each one of his projects. When he was alive. In
his studios, he had, let's see, I wanted to make
sure they say, over one thousand artists in his studios, Artists, animators,
technicians were working on projects pretty much around the clock.
And I was watching a documentary one time and they
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said that when Walt Disney died, somebody came on an
intercom and said to everybody that Disney has passed on,
and there was this dead silence that fell over all
these hundreds of people in these different studios. And one
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of the artists said that all the artists looked at
each other and they just put their pens down and
just stopped working, and they had no idea what to
do next Without him, he was that integral to their
creative process. I was recently reading rudriy Kipling's The Jungle
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Book because I was intrigued. You know, when you watch
this movie, The Jungle Book. I'm assuming most of you
have seen it, Like I say, it's been around since
nineteen sixty seven. Uh all, you know, all the animals
are talking. They're speaking English, of course, but that's the story.
Doesn't work unless the animals are talking and and and
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Mowgli's talking to them. And I thought, well, in the book,
is that also how it works? I mean, is that
was that an exaggeration for the movie or is it
set up that way? Well it turns out that yes,
when you read the book. In his original book, the
animals they can communicate with each other and Mogli and
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each type of animal has their own language. But Mogli
is sort of mentored by some of these animals like
Blue and Bagheera that's like a bear and a cat,
and they kind of teach him a little by little
the different languages of these different animals. But then there's
also like one law of the jungle language it's called
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the master word, where that's kind of an overlap where
they all can kind of speak the master word and communicate.
But the fact of the matter is in the book, yes,
the stories only work if these characters, these animals can
can talk in a very literal way to Mogli and
each other. Now, granted that's a work of fiction, but
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I thought it made me start thinking about how there
are works out there like the Bible that have stories
where animals supposedly do turn around and speak English to people.
You know. Let me just point this out as well.
This is slightly related to the book Tarzan of the
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Apes that was published in nineteen twelve, novel by the
American writer Edgar Rice Burrows. And of course Mowgli was
raised by wolves. But in Tarzan, well, Tarzan best I recall, like,
you know, his parents are taking him in an airplane
and they crash in the jungle and he is just
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a little baby and he survives, and so he's raised
by apes, and the apes teach him to talk some
kind of ape language called Mangani, and so that's how
he communicates with them. But one of the weirdest parts
of this, on a bit of a side note, is
that Tarzan supposedly teaches himself to speak English even though
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there are no other people around. And that is because
that Tarzan supposedly, Okay, he found a cabin or something
like that. I can't remember all the details, but he
found some kind of like a cabin and there was
a picture book in there and a dictionary, and he
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just looked at books and he started connecting these little
characters in the books to the pictures in the books,
and somehow figured out how to teach himself English, so
that when he finally encountered humans, he knew how to
speak English already. And I remember, you know, one time,
I guess Lauren read that book years ago, and she said,
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is that possible if you had never been around to
human and you found some books that had words and pictures,
could you teach yourself? And I said, I don't know.
He doesn't sound right to me. So I started looking
into it and what do you think. Well, here's what
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most most researchers and scientists and linguists say that that
is very, very implausible that maybe he could have found
some way of connecting a character, you know, a letter
or a series of letters to a picture or something
like that, but it doesn't Nobody can figure out how
that he would have been able to speak English. But anyway, again,
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these are things that just pop into my head that
are not exactly not exactly related to the topic at hand.
Now this is more like it. However, I did an
episode of this show way back. It was episode twenty seven,
and it was called The Talking Mongoose and Amazing Animals,
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and this is about this bizarre incident that happened in
the nineteen thirties on the Isle of Man. And the
Isle of Man is it's a British Crown dependency in
the Irish Sea, so they say it's it's self governing,
but you know it's over there about around England. And
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so what happened during that period of time, all these
newspapers started covering this story about this mongoose named Jeff
spelled g e F and they referred to it as
the Talking Mongoose. This was seriously, allegedly some kind of
a talking mongoose which was running around the Isle of Man.
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It inhabited a farmhouse owned by this family called the
Irving family, and there were all these different stories about
how that people would encounter this mongoose and he would
speak English to them, probably even had an English accent,
nice English accent, i'd imagine. So the tabloid press got
a hold of this in Britain in the early nineteen
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thirties and it became a Sinsean and it became big
enough that the Irvings there who said that this that
this mongoose was was running around their farmhouse, they got
visits from parapsychologists and psychic researchers from all around, including
mister Harry Price. I'll get back to Harry Price in
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a minute, because that's he was a very significant figure.
And I'll tell you sort of like the consensus on
that story. But when we get back from this break,
we're gonna we're gonna take the next step, and let's say,
all right, there are people out there who take the
Bible to some degree literally. So in that particular case,
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if it's true that in the Bible we have these
talking animals, especially the story of the talking donkey. Okay, fine,
what does this donkey say? And what makes the donkey
say it? We're gonna dig into that and maybe get
into some related to like do animals even are they
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I'm Joshua pe Warren and you're listening to Strange Things
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on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network,
and I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange
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Things all the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a M
paranormal podcast network. I am your host the Wizard of Weird,
Joshua P. Warren beaming into your wormhole brain from my
studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day
is golden and every night is silver. Agitato Zume. Yes,
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Jeff G. E S the Talking Mango. He made quite
a stir there in the nineteen thirties, and the British
press and I mentioned that all of these paranormal investigators
came to see. Now, in my opinion, the modern day
paranormal investigator is the direct product of the psychical investigators,
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the British psychical investigators from the early nineteen hundreds. Now,
there have been, you know, psychic investigators going back long
before that, and spiritualists of various kinds. But like the
idea of the guy who gets the gear and the
camera and the recorders and you know, goes out, that
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all kind of started with these characters, these these fellas
mainly fellas, not all men, but you know, there were
mainly men who would go out and do that sort
of thing in the early nineteen hundreds. And and the
quintessential ghost hunter of those days was a man named
Harry Price. And I've always been fascinated with him. But
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I don't think I've ever actually done a podcast about
his life, so I'll jot that down and put that
on the list. But just to wrap up the Jeff
thing real quick, you know, it's still kind of it's
a little bit unresolved, because there are some people to
this day who believe that there's no way this could
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have been a hoax. But most people have come to
the conclusion that the phenomenon was indeed a hoax. That
one of the family members there I believe it was
the daughter, a thirteen year old daughter. She was very
good at ventriloquism, and they thought that she was using
ventriloquism to create this effect. I don't know, but there
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actually was a very interesting and I liked it. A
good movie that came out based upon this in twenty
twenty three. If you're interested in this story, it's called
Nandor Fodor. I know that's a weird name, but that's
the name of a researcher, Nandor n A N d
R Nandor Fodor fod r nandor Phodor and the Talking Mongoose.
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I'm sure if you just type in talking Mongoose movie
it will come up. But if you want to know
more about the details of the actual story, like I say,
go back and listen to episode twenty seven of this
podcast called Strange Things. But okay, let's jump into where
all this has been leading. In the Bible, there are
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these accounts of people who are claiming that an animal
has spoken to them in a literal way, or at least,
let me put it this way, there are stories that
say that an animal spoke to a person in a
literal way. And as I mentioned earlier, like this doesn't
matter whether or not you believe in the stories of
the Bible. It's interesting, however, to think about the fact
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that a lot of people do believe these stories, and
so let's look at them. Let's see these animals are
supposedly saying. And I also have found that in each
case when an animal speaks, it's eerie. You know. The Bible,
as I mentioned, is I think it's an eerie book.
Most of it is creepy because it's about this battle
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between good and evil, and there's a devil and there
are these demons run a monk everywhere, and there are
ghosts that come back and can be conjured up and
there are abductions and there are people raised being raised
from the dead, and then the and then there's all
kinds of like destruction, and you know, I mean, so
there's a there's a lot of negativity in the Bible.
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Just about everybody suffers in the Bible, as a matter
of fact. And I guess that's why you're supposed to
seek salvation. So the Bible has always been a very
eerie book. And uh. And of course I was raised
right down the road from Billy Graham's house and so
uh and in western North Carolina, and so I'm I was.
I grew up better versed in the Bible than most people.
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So the most famous story, of course, off a talking
animal in the Bible is also one of the more
confusing ones. It is, of course, in Genesis three, when
the snake talks to Eve in the garden of Eden. Now, obviously,
when it comes to Biblical stuff, there are always going
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to be different interpretations, different translations, so it's always going
to be a little lucy goosey to begin with. In
this case, you know, it says a serpent. But if
we are going to look at this as literally as possible,
well it's a snake. In my opinion, if I were
going to try to take this story literally, I would
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go on a much broader scale, and I would say this,
I've never seen a snake that talks, so I'm thinking,
maybe if this happened, it was one of those big, tall,
creepy reptilian alien things that we've all seen, like from
the the TV show or something, one of those reptilians,
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and that's what is being called a serpent. And but
I have a big imagination. So let's let's just say
most people who believe this sort of stuff, they would
condense it down. They'd say this was a snake. And
the snake appeared to Eve the first woman there in
the garden of Eden, and he starts questioning whether or
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not she should trust God because there's this tree there
called the Tree of Knowledge, and God told her not
to eat from that. I guess that God wants you
to be, or wanted them to be, kind of like
just innocent little puppies in the garden and enjoy their
lives without having to worry about the truth of what's happening.
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So the snake starts talking to her and deceives her
and says that if she eats that she will not die.
Nothing bad is gonna happen, but she's gonna to come
like God. And so he convinced her to do this
and she eats it and then she goes and she
gives it to Adam and he eats it. Because we
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know how men are ha, And next thing you know,
they have sinned. It's the original sin. And basically their
lineage is cursed and so you and I are part
of that. And so thanks Adam and Eve, and so
now we have to live in this world of hardship.
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So that's the story. It starts with that, the temptation,
and because before that they were naked. Adam and Eve
were naked, and that all of a sudden they realized, Oh,
though I can't be naked, this is wrong. Well God
he's really angry at this serpent, and so he curses
the serpent and he says, because of doing this, you
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will crawl on your belly and eat dust the rest
of your days. But that makes the story even weirder,
doesn't it, because that implies that the snake didn't already
did not. Let me put this with that, that implies
that the snake was not already in the form of
a snake that we know today that it was standing up,
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that it had legs of some kind. So even now
we're questioning, well, what is this thing called the serpent?
So if you're gonna say it was a snake, I
guess you could say, well, it was a snake, but
snakes used to have legs and they could talk. And
then once the snake got cursed, well, now the snake
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has lost its legs, or like I say, in my opinion,
might be easier to say, could have been one of
them reptilian guys. Well, if you dig into like what
most theologists, theologians say, they interpret the snake or whatever
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that thing was as just being a disguise that Satan
was using, like he could shape shift or something, or
just use the creature as some kind of a mouthpiece
like a ventriloquist uses the ventriloqual figure. Right, But regardless,
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see the other instances where an animal talks is much
more clear cut than that. But that is, like I say,
the most famous incident, and so there you go. That's
the first one. The second one is more obscure. Most
people have never heard about this one. And I actually
find this one more interesting because the story, like I
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say is it's much more cut and dry. So this
comes from the Book of Numbers, chapter twenty two, verses
twenty one through thirty nine. A king tells this guy
Balamb to go off and do some bad things. Okay,
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so Balamb is a bad guy, and so he's he's
riding his donkey here down the road to go off
and do these bad things. And all of a sudden,
the donkey stops and starts freaking out. And this is
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because that an angel of the Lord has appeared in
the road in front of them with a drawn sword.
But the angel is invisible to Baalamb, but it is
visible to his donkey. So the donkey again starts freaking
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out and starts pressing against a wall, crushing Balaam's foot
and eventually laying down. And so Balamb started getting ticked off,
and he starts beating up this donkey in anger. And
at this point, the donkey turns its head around to Balamb,
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opens its mouth and says, what have I done to
you that you have struck me these three times? Okay,
we got to take a break when we come back. Now,
how would you like that if you if you're riding
a horse or whatever it is, and it turns around
and looks you right in the eye and says something
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like that. I'll tell you the rest of that story,
and then we'll get into the third animal and then
this question about well, how much like people are animals?
Do they have souls in the same way that we
have souls? There are a lot of directions to go here.
I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
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the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network,
and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back
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And this is this show where the unusual becomes usual.
So where were we? Ah? Yes, the bad guy Balamb
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he is, Uh, he's on his donkey. He's going off
to do some bad stuff, and all of a sudden,
the donkey freaks out because the donkey sees an angel
of the Lord with a drawn sword right there in
front of them. The donkey freaks out and uh kind
of presses against a wall, crushing Balam's foot, and he
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starts beating this donkey, and the donkey turns, well, I'm
sure a very serious expression, and said, what have I
done to you that you have struck me these three times?
And at that time God opens Balaam's eyes so that
he can also see the angel, and at that time
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the angel explains to Balaam that the donkey he had
saved his life because he was about to get his
head chopped off by that sort. Okay, So after that
Baalamb freaked out, he repented, and he was warned to
only do what God told him, and he was converted
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by this. And so the story contrasts the animal's ability
to see the spiritual threat with the prophet's inability to
see it because Balamb was some kind of a prophet,
a bad prophet. And so one of the lessons is that,
you know, God can use unlikely creatures and situations to communicate.
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But you know what's funny about that is it reminds
me of all these stories about just animal sensitivities in general,
and I have talked about that, I guess probably even
in that episode twenty seven I mentioned earlier, I talked
about amazing animals and how that we hear all these
stories about how the animals are able to perceive other
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realms and they are sensitive to things that we cannot imagine,
things that science is unable to understand. And that's why
we use animals all the time. I mean, like, look
at how useful animals are and finding lost people or
tracking down criminals or looking for you know, various unlawful material.
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And I mean, like, you know, so I think I
saw a story not too long ago about somebody who
was who had trained in otter to find dead bodies underwater.
I gotta look that up and get more details on that.
But anyway, that's interesting because we're not just talking about
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the idea that this this this donkey could talk, but
the donkey could see something and then utilize that in
order to protect a human. So that's the case. That's
the story there. Now the third one, this one is
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also one of those. It's kind of wishy washy and
there's not a heck of a lot to it. But
of course, one could argue that the scariest book of
the Bible is Revelation. And in Revelation eight thirteen, John
he looks up and he sees an eagle flying above,
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and the eagle is crying out whoa, whoa, whoa to
the inhabitants of the earth. And this means the eagle
is announcing three impending judgments. The three last trumpet blasts uh,
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and that is you know, that's not good. That means
bad things, really horrible stuff is about to be unleashed.
I'm talking like each woe represents a severe calamity that
will follow the first four trumpet judgments. And it says
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it flies in mid heaven, ensuring that all earth dwellers
hear the warning. Now there are some translations that say that, well,
it's not Egle, it's angel, but most of the manuscripts
say no, it's Egle. It's a swift, powerful bird of prey.
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Of course, you could just say that all this is symbolic.
You could say everything is symbolic here. But as far
as I know, those are the only times when an
animal supposedly talks in some form of the Bible. The
snake warns, or actually the snake temps eve. The donkey
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gets ticked off after he hets feed, and then the
ego is just saying you're screwed, You're screwed, You're screwed. Oh, man.
So what do you think about this? Do you think
that do you think that if we were to take
all this stuff in the Bible with some kind of
a literal meaning that in some way that humans and
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animals are much more alike than we generally think, because
the Bible it portrays animals with human like characteristics. Oftentimes
they have morals, They're a part of God's direct care,
even though it's emphasized that they are distinct from humans
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because they are not made in God's image. So we
supposedly are made to look like God and they don't.
But you know, there are all kinds of examples where
animals are still given you know, like human like respect.
And as a matter of fact, in the Book of Isaiah,
Isaiah God regarded killing an ox similar to killing a man.
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And then we have, you know, these incidents where you know,
Noah's Ark, where all of these animals are saved, supposedly
taken onto the arc. And so there are all kinds
of different examples of God sort of speaking of animals
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as if they have human like characteristics without explicitly saying
that they are they are like us because because we
look like Him. So the Bible, you might say, well,
does that mean animals have a soul or not? The
Bible does not make that very clear. It does not
provide a definitive direct answer on whether animals have eternal souls,
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And I guess I guess that all also boils down
to what you mean by a soul. It does describe
animals as having the quote breath of life and being
quote living creatures. But again, I mean, does that mean
that does that mean they have souls in the same
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way that we do? Well, I guess that one of
the things that if we can take away from this
from a just a common person's point of view, if
you're trying to interpret what the Bible might be saying here,
is that the whole point of the Bible, supposedly is
that it teaches you how to be saved. And one
way of looking at that is it teaches you how
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to live on after you die and have a better existence.
Right that this is a fork in the road, and
you have a choice, and you can do these things
and you can be saved and get you know, or
you could do these things and you don't get sick.
But the thing that's also kind of interesting is the
Bible talks about how that ultimately you're saved by grace,
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and you hear that all the time, and you wonder,
what does that mean? Saved by grace? And what that
means is that God has the God will save you,
not because that you deserve it, but because it is
a gift from Him that none of us deserve it.
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That you can do all kinds of acts that are great,
but there's no need for you to boast about it,
because that doesn't mean it's necessarily going to save you.
And you can do acts that are horrible, and that
doesn't necessarily mean that you're doomed, because God might decide
to save you. And so the point of the Bible
is that we are all sinners and that none of
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us deserves to be saved. But if you learn and
the lessons that you're supposed to learn from the book,
well then he can save you if he wants to.
And so why should that not apply to animals. If
God wants to save an animal, then God can save
an animal. And I maybe it's true that all dogs
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go to heaven except this one dog. I met this
one dog, and that's sort of no. I'm joking. I'm
joking but so I guess you know, those are the
lessons here ended. The lesson You can take from that
what you want. But I've just always thought it was
intriguing to think about that relationship between humans and animals,
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and how odd it is when we get into animals
speaking in the Bible. I wrote a book one time
worth animals speaking. I was a teenager and I wrote
a book that was published. It was called The Lonely Amoeba,
The Lonely Amoeba. And I wrote this book and my
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classmate Tim Peterson, who is no longer with us, illustrated
it and we got it published. I'm holding a copy
right here in my hands. It's a nice hard back,
full colored children's book. And in The Lonely Amiba, the
characters that speak are microscopic characters. By the edge of
a hill, at the woods just beyond and the weeds
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and the algae, there stood a small pond. Now it
seemed nothing special, quite simple and plain, just a dark,
murky pool, filled up mainly by rain. Just to glance
at the thing, one would see, not a being. But wait,
not too soon, now, be sure what you're seeing, To
see all the odd things to which I refer one
must look a bit closer now, closer and closer. And
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then the characters emerge, and we have characters like Ema
Amba and Larry the Hairy Paramesian and Gina Euglina, and
I don't know if I was the first person to
write a book where the speaking animals or microscopic creatures
are not looking up the lonely Amiba and Amiba spelled
am Eba. I left the O out because you can
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do that if you want to. We're gonna take a
break when we come back. I'm holding something in my
hand right now. Let's play this game. It's really cool.
See if you can guess what it is. What am
I holding in my hand? See how psychic you are.
It's really okay. I'll give you a hint. It has
something to do with Michigan, the state of Michigan. I'm
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when I am holding in my hand, I would like
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regard end quote. He writes that in caps. Then he
tells me about some of the things he's been using
the devices for, the manifestation tools for and he's especially
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In my Curiosity Shop, there's two types of tepophones there.
But he says that I'm sorry about writing this lengthy letter,
and he says, I want you to understand that I'm
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Keep up the outstanding work always, sincerely, James. Well, James,
there you go. You made my day, sir. I appreciate
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All right now, let's get back to what I am
holding in my hand. When I was a kid, one
of our family trees was to go to Siue Saint Marie, Michigan,
which is right up there on the Canadian border. There's
actually a Sioux Saint Maurice in Canada as well, on
the other side of the river, and that's where they
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have the locks where the ships passed through. And when
we were going up there, my dad was explaining what
the locks were and how all that functioned. And I
had never seen such a thing, of course, great beautiful
little town. And since then I've been up there at
least a couple more times. There is a conference up there,
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a paranormal conference that I've spoken at a couple of times.
And they call that part of Michigan the Upper Peninsula,
the Upper Peninsula, and the people who live there are
known locally as Upers, because I guess that's how Upper
Peninsula Upper is a yuper, so that if you're a Yuper,
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you live around the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Well, I
am holding in my hand a rock that's about the
size of an egg. It's been polished smooth, and this
is a material that was discovered in twenty seventeen, just
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twenty seventeen, right there in the Upper Peninsula, and it's
called euper light. This is an igneous rock, all right.
So igneous means that it came from a molten rock
or magma that has cooled down. Not all igneous rocks
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come from volcanoes necessarily, but there has to be some
kind of molten rock that cools down and creates these things.
And if you look at this in my hand, it
kind of just looks like a gray rock with black
and somewhat brownish little speckles. All. It doesn't really look
that impressive. But you see, the guy who discovered this
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in twenty seventeen is named let's see, Eric Rin Tamachi.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name properly or not.
I've seen pictures of me. He's got a big long
beard and h he just went out one evening and
he was walking around I think it was Lake Superior
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around the shoreline there, and he decided to whip out
a UV light and as he was looking around the
UV light, holy cow, he saw things that he wasn't
expecting to see. And this is what we now call
euper light. Because if you take this little smooth gray
stone that I have in my hand right now, and again,
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it looks rather unremarkable to the naked eye. But if
you take a UV light like I have in my
other hand and you turn it on, WHOA, this thing
comes to life because all of a sudden of looking
like a dead gray rock. There are all of these
brilliant glowing pinkish orangish speckles all over it. It almost
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looks like the thing is a hot coal in your hand.
I mean, you could probably use this as a prop
in a movie, some kind of a hot coal. It
looks amazing. If you've never seen this, get get online
and look up a picture of uper light. I only
recently learned about this. It's spelled why oo p e
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r l i t e hy o o p e
r l i t e uper light. And since I
just recently got it, I mean, I'm not sure exactly.
I know it has to have some kind of mystical uses.
And I got online and it says that one of
the first things I found. Euper Light is known as
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a stone of truth and perception, encourage the discovery of
hidden truths and personal growth. It is associated with the
root and throat chakras. It is believed to help with communication,
reduce anxiety, and promote self awareness. Frequently called the flamestone,
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the fluorescent soda light, or simply you prolite, and people
use these in meditations now to enhance focus, connect with Earth,
energy grounding obviously, lots of cool jewelry, and so symbolically,
they say, the physical act of searching for them with
UV lights is used as a metaphor for looking for
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positivity and truth in challenging situations. I wonder what Eric,
the guy who discovered this, would think about all that.
That would be wild to say, like, I discovered this
thing that's been there since the dawn of time. I
discovered in twenty seventeen, and now these people are already
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writing all this stuff about it on the internet. Yeah,
just look it up. But just something cool, you prolatee
if you got that somehow, if you guess that, be honest,
let me know. But don't tell me you did if
you didn't, Okay, I'll know. You know, really when you
start thinking about how much power and how many mysterious
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amazing things are just trapped in rocks and metals. I mean,
the other day I bought a flashlight, just a little
plastic flashlight. It's gotten no batteries, it's got no hand crank,
it's got none of that stuff, no magnets or anything.
And you unscrew it and it has just two metal
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plates in there, and you just fill it with a
little salt water. I mean I took a little teaspoon
of salt water, just table salt, put a little teaspoon
of table salt in there, and put some tap water
in it, screwed on the cap boom. It turns on
the light and it will light for hundreds and hundreds
of hours before that needs to be replaced. And so
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it's just saltwater interacting with these little metal plates. And
I don't forget how much I paid for it, but
it wasn't that expensive. And then also, I mean you
could use other things if you were in a real
emergency situation. They say you could you could urinate in there.
I mean, there are a lot of things that will
will trigger this function. So I don't know. I'm just
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always amazed by how much potential energy is sitting there
around us, and how many mysterious things are yet to
be discovered. And that's a very very good example of it,
I think. So, okay, quick question for you before we
run out of time. Why do you think that thousands
of years ago the Chinese people started using chopsticks instead
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of forks and knives and things like that is mental manner? Well,
they say that two big reasons. One is because they
have a tradition of cutting food into very small pieces
to save fuel, and it's good for picking up nice,
small little pieces with precision. But also it's considered non
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violent that a knife or a fork could be considered
an aggressive, violent thing to bring to a table, and
a chopstick is more peaceful, even though in some martial
arts movies I have seen some people do some pretty
disgusting things to each other with chopsticks. All right, clock
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at home, and a lot more. On this edition of
the show. Snake, Donkey and Eagle talking animals in the Bible.
Whether or not you believe the stories in the Bible.
I believe that the Bible is the most paranormal book
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ever written. It's got everything in there that you can imagine.
I mean, we're talking about a spiritual battle and at
most of the stories in the Bible, in my opinion,
are creepy. Well, we'll talk more about that later, because
there are only three times when an animal supposedly speaks
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in the Bible. A snake speaks, a donkey speaks, and
an eagle speaks. And we're going to explore each of
these incidents and see what we think of them. But
first off, on a lighter note, let me ask you
a trivia question. I guess that the highest honor you
can receive as an author is to win the Nobel
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Prize for Literature. And so the first person to win
the Nobel Prize for Literature was also the youngest person
to date to ever win the Nobel Prize for literature.
Who do you think it was? Hmmm, all right, here's
the answer. The answer is Rudyard Kipling. Rudyard Kipling. He
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was an Englishman and he is most famous because in
eighteen ninety four he wrote The Jungle Book, and at
least he published it in eighteen ninety four. The Jungle
Book was a collection of stories about this boy named
Mowgli who is lost in the jungle, the jungles of
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India and raised by wolves, and as he grows up
he ends up being able to communicate with all these
different animals. And the book is full of life lessons
about you know, survival and identity and the laws of
nature and all these kinds of things. And when I
was a kid, one of my favorite Disney movies was
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The Jungle Book. It came out in nineteen sixty seven.
And as a matter of fact, the Jungle Book was
the last movie that Walt Disney personally worked on himself.
And one thing about because you know, he died right
before it was finished, and so when it came out,
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it was it was a huge, huge hit. And I
just thought of this little, uh tid bit of information
that you might find intriguing when it comes to Walt Disney.
Walt Disney, he was so involved, so personally involved with
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each one of his projects. When he was alive. In
his studios, he had, let's see, I wanted to make
sure they say, over one thousand artists in his studios, Artists, animators,
technicians were working on projects pretty much around the clock.
And I was watching a documentary one time and they
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said that when Walt Disney died, somebody came on an
intercom and said to everybody that Disney has passed on,
and there was this dead silence that fell over all
these hundreds of people in these different studios. And one
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of the artists said that all the artists looked at
each other and they just put their pens down and
just stopped working, and they had no idea what to
do next Without him, he was that integral to their
creative process. I was recently reading rudriy Kipling's The Jungle
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Book because I was intrigued. You know, when you watch
this movie, The Jungle Book. I'm assuming most of you
have seen it, Like I say, it's been around since
nineteen sixty seven. Uh all, you know, all the animals
are talking. They're speaking English, of course, but that's the story.
Doesn't work unless the animals are talking and and and
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Mowgli's talking to them. And I thought, well, in the book,
is that also how it works? I mean, is that
was that an exaggeration for the movie or is it
set up that way? Well it turns out that yes,
when you read the book. In his original book, the
animals they can communicate with each other and Mogli and
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each type of animal has their own language. But Mogli
is sort of mentored by some of these animals like
Blue and Bagheera that's like a bear and a cat,
and they kind of teach him a little by little
the different languages of these different animals. But then there's
also like one law of the jungle language it's called
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the master word, where that's kind of an overlap where
they all can kind of speak the master word and communicate.
But the fact of the matter is in the book, yes,
the stories only work if these characters, these animals can
can talk in a very literal way to Mogli and
each other. Now, granted that's a work of fiction, but
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I thought it made me start thinking about how there
are works out there like the Bible that have stories
where animals supposedly do turn around and speak English to people.
You know. Let me just point this out as well.
This is slightly related to the book Tarzan of the
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Apes that was published in nineteen twelve, novel by the
American writer Edgar Rice Burrows. And of course Mowgli was
raised by wolves. But in Tarzan, well, Tarzan best I recall, like,
you know, his parents are taking him in an airplane
and they crash in the jungle and he is just
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a little baby and he survives, and so he's raised
by apes, and the apes teach him to talk some
kind of ape language called Mangani, and so that's how
he communicates with them. But one of the weirdest parts
of this, on a bit of a side note, is
that Tarzan supposedly teaches himself to speak English even though
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there are no other people around. And that is because
that Tarzan supposedly, Okay, he found a cabin or something
like that. I can't remember all the details, but he
found some kind of like a cabin and there was
a picture book in there and a dictionary, and he
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just looked at books and he started connecting these little
characters in the books to the pictures in the books,
and somehow figured out how to teach himself English, so
that when he finally encountered humans, he knew how to
speak English already. And I remember, you know, one time,
I guess Lauren read that book years ago, and she said,
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is that possible if you had never been around to
human and you found some books that had words and pictures,
could you teach yourself? And I said, I don't know.
He doesn't sound right to me. So I started looking
into it and what do you think. Well, here's what
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most most researchers and scientists and linguists say that that
is very, very implausible that maybe he could have found
some way of connecting a character, you know, a letter
or a series of letters to a picture or something
like that, but it doesn't Nobody can figure out how
that he would have been able to speak English. But anyway, again,
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these are things that just pop into my head that
are not exactly not exactly related to the topic at hand.
Now this is more like it. However, I did an
episode of this show way back. It was episode twenty seven,
and it was called The Talking Mongoose and Amazing Animals,
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and this is about this bizarre incident that happened in
the nineteen thirties on the Isle of Man. And the
Isle of Man is it's a British Crown dependency in
the Irish Sea, so they say it's it's self governing,
but you know it's over there about around England. And
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so what happened during that period of time, all these
newspapers started covering this story about this mongoose named Jeff
spelled g e F and they referred to it as
the Talking Mongoose. This was seriously, allegedly some kind of
a talking mongoose which was running around the Isle of Man.
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It inhabited a farmhouse owned by this family called the
Irving family, and there were all these different stories about
how that people would encounter this mongoose and he would
speak English to them, probably even had an English accent,
nice English accent, i'd imagine. So the tabloid press got
a hold of this in Britain in the early nineteen
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thirties and it became a Sinsean and it became big
enough that the Irvings there who said that this that
this mongoose was was running around their farmhouse, they got
visits from parapsychologists and psychic researchers from all around, including
mister Harry Price. I'll get back to Harry Price in
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a minute, because that's he was a very significant figure.
And I'll tell you sort of like the consensus on
that story. But when we get back from this break,
we're gonna we're gonna take the next step, and let's say,
all right, there are people out there who take the
Bible to some degree literally. So in that particular case,
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if it's true that in the Bible we have these
talking animals, especially the story of the talking donkey. Okay, fine,
what does this donkey say? And what makes the donkey
say it? We're gonna dig into that and maybe get
into some related to like do animals even are they
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is golden and every night is silver. Agitato Zume. Yes,
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Jeff G. E S the Talking Mango. He made quite
a stir there in the nineteen thirties, and the British
press and I mentioned that all of these paranormal investigators
came to see. Now, in my opinion, the modern day
paranormal investigator is the direct product of the psychical investigators,
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the British psychical investigators from the early nineteen hundreds. Now,
there have been, you know, psychic investigators going back long
before that, and spiritualists of various kinds. But like the
idea of the guy who gets the gear and the
camera and the recorders and you know, goes out, that
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all kind of started with these characters, these these fellas
mainly fellas, not all men, but you know, there were
mainly men who would go out and do that sort
of thing in the early nineteen hundreds. And and the
quintessential ghost hunter of those days was a man named
Harry Price. And I've always been fascinated with him. But
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I don't think I've ever actually done a podcast about
his life, so I'll jot that down and put that
on the list. But just to wrap up the Jeff
thing real quick, you know, it's still kind of it's
a little bit unresolved, because there are some people to
this day who believe that there's no way this could
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have been a hoax. But most people have come to
the conclusion that the phenomenon was indeed a hoax. That
one of the family members there I believe it was
the daughter, a thirteen year old daughter. She was very
good at ventriloquism, and they thought that she was using
ventriloquism to create this effect. I don't know, but there
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actually was a very interesting and I liked it. A
good movie that came out based upon this in twenty
twenty three. If you're interested in this story, it's called
Nandor Fodor. I know that's a weird name, but that's
the name of a researcher, Nandor n A N d
R Nandor Fodor fod r nandor Phodor and the Talking Mongoose.
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I'm sure if you just type in talking Mongoose movie
it will come up. But if you want to know
more about the details of the actual story, like I say,
go back and listen to episode twenty seven of this
podcast called Strange Things. But okay, let's jump into where
all this has been leading. In the Bible, there are
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these accounts of people who are claiming that an animal
has spoken to them in a literal way, or at least,
let me put it this way, there are stories that
say that an animal spoke to a person in a
literal way. And as I mentioned earlier, like this doesn't
matter whether or not you believe in the stories of
the Bible. It's interesting, however, to think about the fact
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that a lot of people do believe these stories, and
so let's look at them. Let's see these animals are
supposedly saying. And I also have found that in each
case when an animal speaks, it's eerie. You know. The Bible,
as I mentioned, is I think it's an eerie book.
Most of it is creepy because it's about this battle
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between good and evil, and there's a devil and there
are these demons run a monk everywhere, and there are
ghosts that come back and can be conjured up and
there are abductions and there are people raised being raised
from the dead, and then the and then there's all
kinds of like destruction, and you know, I mean, so
there's a there's a lot of negativity in the Bible.
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Just about everybody suffers in the Bible, as a matter
of fact. And I guess that's why you're supposed to
seek salvation. So the Bible has always been a very
eerie book. And uh. And of course I was raised
right down the road from Billy Graham's house and so
uh and in western North Carolina, and so I'm I was.
I grew up better versed in the Bible than most people.
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So the most famous story, of course, off a talking
animal in the Bible is also one of the more
confusing ones. It is, of course, in Genesis three, when
the snake talks to Eve in the garden of Eden. Now, obviously,
when it comes to Biblical stuff, there are always going
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to be different interpretations, different translations, so it's always going
to be a little lucy goosey to begin with. In
this case, you know, it says a serpent. But if
we are going to look at this as literally as possible,
well it's a snake. In my opinion, if I were
going to try to take this story literally, I would
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go on a much broader scale, and I would say this,
I've never seen a snake that talks, so I'm thinking,
maybe if this happened, it was one of those big, tall,
creepy reptilian alien things that we've all seen, like from
the the TV show or something, one of those reptilians,
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and that's what is being called a serpent. And but
I have a big imagination. So let's let's just say
most people who believe this sort of stuff, they would
condense it down. They'd say this was a snake. And
the snake appeared to Eve the first woman there in
the garden of Eden, and he starts questioning whether or
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not she should trust God because there's this tree there
called the Tree of Knowledge, and God told her not
to eat from that. I guess that God wants you
to be, or wanted them to be, kind of like
just innocent little puppies in the garden and enjoy their
lives without having to worry about the truth of what's happening.
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So the snake starts talking to her and deceives her
and says that if she eats that she will not die.
Nothing bad is gonna happen, but she's gonna to come
like God. And so he convinced her to do this
and she eats it and then she goes and she
gives it to Adam and he eats it. Because we
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know how men are ha, And next thing you know,
they have sinned. It's the original sin. And basically their
lineage is cursed and so you and I are part
of that. And so thanks Adam and Eve, and so
now we have to live in this world of hardship.
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So that's the story. It starts with that, the temptation,
and because before that they were naked. Adam and Eve
were naked, and that all of a sudden they realized, Oh,
though I can't be naked, this is wrong. Well God
he's really angry at this serpent, and so he curses
the serpent and he says, because of doing this, you
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will crawl on your belly and eat dust the rest
of your days. But that makes the story even weirder,
doesn't it, because that implies that the snake didn't already
did not. Let me put this with that, that implies
that the snake was not already in the form of
a snake that we know today that it was standing up,
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that it had legs of some kind. So even now
we're questioning, well, what is this thing called the serpent?
So if you're gonna say it was a snake, I
guess you could say, well, it was a snake, but
snakes used to have legs and they could talk. And
then once the snake got cursed, well, now the snake
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has lost its legs, or like I say, in my opinion,
might be easier to say, could have been one of
them reptilian guys. Well, if you dig into like what
most theologists, theologians say, they interpret the snake or whatever
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that thing was as just being a disguise that Satan
was using, like he could shape shift or something, or
just use the creature as some kind of a mouthpiece
like a ventriloquist uses the ventriloqual figure. Right, But regardless,
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see the other instances where an animal talks is much
more clear cut than that. But that is, like I say,
the most famous incident, and so there you go. That's
the first one. The second one is more obscure. Most
people have never heard about this one. And I actually
find this one more interesting because the story, like I
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say is it's much more cut and dry. So this
comes from the Book of Numbers, chapter twenty two, verses
twenty one through thirty nine. A king tells this guy
Balamb to go off and do some bad things. Okay,
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so Balamb is a bad guy, and so he's he's
riding his donkey here down the road to go off
and do these bad things. And all of a sudden,
the donkey stops and starts freaking out. And this is
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because that an angel of the Lord has appeared in
the road in front of them with a drawn sword.
But the angel is invisible to Baalamb, but it is
visible to his donkey. So the donkey again starts freaking
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out and starts pressing against a wall, crushing Balaam's foot
and eventually laying down. And so Balamb started getting ticked off,
and he starts beating up this donkey in anger. And
at this point, the donkey turns its head around to Balamb,
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opens its mouth and says, what have I done to
you that you have struck me these three times? Okay,
we got to take a break when we come back. Now,
how would you like that if you if you're riding
a horse or whatever it is, and it turns around
and looks you right in the eye and says something
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like that. I'll tell you the rest of that story,
and then we'll get into the third animal and then
this question about well, how much like people are animals?
Do they have souls in the same way that we
have souls? There are a lot of directions to go here.
I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
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the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network,
and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back
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And this is this show where the unusual becomes usual.
So where were we? Ah? Yes, the bad guy Balamb
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he is, Uh, he's on his donkey. He's going off
to do some bad stuff, and all of a sudden,
the donkey freaks out because the donkey sees an angel
of the Lord with a drawn sword right there in
front of them. The donkey freaks out and uh kind
of presses against a wall, crushing Balam's foot, and he
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starts beating this donkey, and the donkey turns, well, I'm
sure a very serious expression, and said, what have I
done to you that you have struck me these three times?
And at that time God opens Balaam's eyes so that
he can also see the angel, and at that time
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the angel explains to Balaam that the donkey he had
saved his life because he was about to get his
head chopped off by that sort. Okay, So after that
Baalamb freaked out, he repented, and he was warned to
only do what God told him, and he was converted
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by this. And so the story contrasts the animal's ability
to see the spiritual threat with the prophet's inability to
see it because Balamb was some kind of a prophet,
a bad prophet. And so one of the lessons is that,
you know, God can use unlikely creatures and situations to communicate.
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But you know what's funny about that is it reminds
me of all these stories about just animal sensitivities in general,
and I have talked about that, I guess probably even
in that episode twenty seven I mentioned earlier, I talked
about amazing animals and how that we hear all these
stories about how the animals are able to perceive other
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realms and they are sensitive to things that we cannot imagine,
things that science is unable to understand. And that's why
we use animals all the time. I mean, like, look
at how useful animals are and finding lost people or
tracking down criminals or looking for you know, various unlawful material.
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And I mean, like, you know, so I think I
saw a story not too long ago about somebody who
was who had trained in otter to find dead bodies underwater.
I gotta look that up and get more details on that.
But anyway, that's interesting because we're not just talking about
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the idea that this this this donkey could talk, but
the donkey could see something and then utilize that in
order to protect a human. So that's the case. That's
the story there. Now the third one, this one is
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also one of those. It's kind of wishy washy and
there's not a heck of a lot to it. But
of course, one could argue that the scariest book of
the Bible is Revelation. And in Revelation eight thirteen, John
he looks up and he sees an eagle flying above,
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and the eagle is crying out whoa, whoa, whoa to
the inhabitants of the earth. And this means the eagle
is announcing three impending judgments. The three last trumpet blasts uh,
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and that is you know, that's not good. That means
bad things, really horrible stuff is about to be unleashed.
I'm talking like each woe represents a severe calamity that
will follow the first four trumpet judgments. And it says
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it flies in mid heaven, ensuring that all earth dwellers
hear the warning. Now there are some translations that say that, well,
it's not Egle, it's angel, but most of the manuscripts
say no, it's Egle. It's a swift, powerful bird of prey.
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Of course, you could just say that all this is symbolic.
You could say everything is symbolic here. But as far
as I know, those are the only times when an
animal supposedly talks in some form of the Bible. The
snake warns, or actually the snake temps eve. The donkey
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gets ticked off after he hets feed, and then the
ego is just saying you're screwed, You're screwed, You're screwed. Oh, man.
So what do you think about this? Do you think
that do you think that if we were to take
all this stuff in the Bible with some kind of
a literal meaning that in some way that humans and
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animals are much more alike than we generally think, because
the Bible it portrays animals with human like characteristics. Oftentimes
they have morals, They're a part of God's direct care,
even though it's emphasized that they are distinct from humans
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because they are not made in God's image. So we
supposedly are made to look like God and they don't.
But you know, there are all kinds of examples where
animals are still given you know, like human like respect.
And as a matter of fact, in the Book of Isaiah,
Isaiah God regarded killing an ox similar to killing a man.
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And then we have, you know, these incidents where you know,
Noah's Ark, where all of these animals are saved, supposedly
taken onto the arc. And so there are all kinds
of different examples of God sort of speaking of animals
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as if they have human like characteristics without explicitly saying
that they are they are like us because because we
look like Him. So the Bible, you might say, well,
does that mean animals have a soul or not? The
Bible does not make that very clear. It does not
provide a definitive direct answer on whether animals have eternal souls,
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And I guess I guess that all also boils down
to what you mean by a soul. It does describe
animals as having the quote breath of life and being
quote living creatures. But again, I mean, does that mean
that does that mean they have souls in the same
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way that we do? Well, I guess that one of
the things that if we can take away from this
from a just a common person's point of view, if
you're trying to interpret what the Bible might be saying here,
is that the whole point of the Bible, supposedly is
that it teaches you how to be saved. And one
way of looking at that is it teaches you how
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to live on after you die and have a better existence.
Right that this is a fork in the road, and
you have a choice, and you can do these things
and you can be saved and get you know, or
you could do these things and you don't get sick.
But the thing that's also kind of interesting is the
Bible talks about how that ultimately you're saved by grace,
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and you hear that all the time, and you wonder,
what does that mean? Saved by grace? And what that
means is that God has the God will save you,
not because that you deserve it, but because it is
a gift from Him that none of us deserve it.
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That you can do all kinds of acts that are great,
but there's no need for you to boast about it,
because that doesn't mean it's necessarily going to save you.
And you can do acts that are horrible, and that
doesn't necessarily mean that you're doomed, because God might decide
to save you. And so the point of the Bible
is that we are all sinners and that none of
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us deserves to be saved. But if you learn and
the lessons that you're supposed to learn from the book,
well then he can save you if he wants to.
And so why should that not apply to animals. If
God wants to save an animal, then God can save
an animal. And I maybe it's true that all dogs
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go to heaven except this one dog. I met this
one dog, and that's sort of no. I'm joking. I'm
joking but so I guess you know, those are the
lessons here ended. The lesson You can take from that
what you want. But I've just always thought it was
intriguing to think about that relationship between humans and animals,
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and how odd it is when we get into animals
speaking in the Bible. I wrote a book one time
worth animals speaking. I was a teenager and I wrote
a book that was published. It was called The Lonely Amoeba,
The Lonely Amoeba. And I wrote this book and my
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classmate Tim Peterson, who is no longer with us, illustrated
it and we got it published. I'm holding a copy
right here in my hands. It's a nice hard back,
full colored children's book. And in The Lonely Amiba, the
characters that speak are microscopic characters. By the edge of
a hill, at the woods just beyond and the weeds
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and the algae, there stood a small pond. Now it
seemed nothing special, quite simple and plain, just a dark,
murky pool, filled up mainly by rain. Just to glance
at the thing, one would see, not a being. But wait,
not too soon, now, be sure what you're seeing, To
see all the odd things to which I refer one
must look a bit closer now, closer and closer. And
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then the characters emerge, and we have characters like Ema
Amba and Larry the Hairy Paramesian and Gina Euglina, and
I don't know if I was the first person to
write a book where the speaking animals or microscopic creatures
are not looking up the lonely Amiba and Amiba spelled
am Eba. I left the O out because you can
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do that if you want to. We're gonna take a
break when we come back. I'm holding something in my
hand right now. Let's play this game. It's really cool.
See if you can guess what it is. What am
I holding in my hand? See how psychic you are.
It's really okay. I'll give you a hint. It has
something to do with Michigan, the state of Michigan. I'm
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Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and
I will be right back. Welcome back to the final
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segment of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am
your host, Joshua P. Warren. And before I tell you,
when I am holding in my hand, I would like
to quickly read a really nice email that I recently
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received from a man in Canada. His name is James,
and he likes to go to my Curiosity shop there
on my website Joshua Pewarren dot com. He says, I
must report to you, Joshua, that I can say with
complete sincerity that every single thing I have purchased from
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you through the years has worked as promised with one
hundred percent success exclamation point. I do have constant operations
running using all equipment equipment I got through you and
doctor Moulder. And he says, I will repeat my testimony
to anyone who wants it. It is an overwhelming quote.
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I am a one hundred percent satisfied customer in every
regard end quote. He writes that in caps. Then he
tells me about some of the things he's been using
the devices for, the manifestation tools for and he's especially
a big fan of the tepathone, which should be currently
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still available. It should be depending on when you hear this.
In my Curiosity Shop, there's two types of tepophones there.
But he says that I'm sorry about writing this lengthy letter,
and he says, I want you to understand that I'm
not forgetting kindness that you have shown towards me through
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the years. I remain a loyal customer and devoted fan.
Keep up the outstanding work always, sincerely, James. Well, James,
there you go. You made my day, sir. I appreciate
that immensely, and that's why that I put these things
out there. You know, I create these tools that doctor
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Moulder creates these tools because it helps us. And so
my philosophy is if I make something that helps me
and it might help you, then I'll be happy to
make it available as long as I can for you
to try it as well. And that's the type the
proof of the pudding, you know. And we have lots
of repeat customers as well. So thank you again, James.
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All right now, let's get back to what I am
holding in my hand. When I was a kid, one
of our family trees was to go to Siue Saint Marie, Michigan,
which is right up there on the Canadian border. There's
actually a Sioux Saint Maurice in Canada as well, on
the other side of the river, and that's where they
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have the locks where the ships passed through. And when
we were going up there, my dad was explaining what
the locks were and how all that functioned. And I
had never seen such a thing, of course, great beautiful
little town. And since then I've been up there at
least a couple more times. There is a conference up there,
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a paranormal conference that I've spoken at a couple of times.
And they call that part of Michigan the Upper Peninsula,
the Upper Peninsula, and the people who live there are
known locally as Upers, because I guess that's how Upper
Peninsula Upper is a yuper, so that if you're a Yuper,
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you live around the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Well, I
am holding in my hand a rock that's about the
size of an egg. It's been polished smooth, and this
is a material that was discovered in twenty seventeen, just
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twenty seventeen, right there in the Upper Peninsula, and it's
called euper light. This is an igneous rock, all right.
So igneous means that it came from a molten rock
or magma that has cooled down. Not all igneous rocks
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come from volcanoes necessarily, but there has to be some
kind of molten rock that cools down and creates these things.
And if you look at this in my hand, it
kind of just looks like a gray rock with black
and somewhat brownish little speckles. All. It doesn't really look
that impressive. But you see, the guy who discovered this
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in twenty seventeen is named let's see, Eric Rin Tamachi.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name properly or not.
I've seen pictures of me. He's got a big long
beard and h he just went out one evening and
he was walking around I think it was Lake Superior
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around the shoreline there, and he decided to whip out
a UV light and as he was looking around the
UV light, holy cow, he saw things that he wasn't
expecting to see. And this is what we now call
euper light. Because if you take this little smooth gray
stone that I have in my hand right now, and again,
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it looks rather unremarkable to the naked eye. But if
you take a UV light like I have in my
other hand and you turn it on, WHOA, this thing
comes to life because all of a sudden of looking
like a dead gray rock. There are all of these
brilliant glowing pinkish orangish speckles all over it. It almost
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looks like the thing is a hot coal in your hand.
I mean, you could probably use this as a prop
in a movie, some kind of a hot coal. It
looks amazing. If you've never seen this, get get online
and look up a picture of uper light. I only
recently learned about this. It's spelled why oo p e
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r l i t e hy o o p e
r l i t e uper light. And since I
just recently got it, I mean, I'm not sure exactly.
I know it has to have some kind of mystical uses.
And I got online and it says that one of
the first things I found. Euper Light is known as
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a stone of truth and perception, encourage the discovery of
hidden truths and personal growth. It is associated with the
root and throat chakras. It is believed to help with communication,
reduce anxiety, and promote self awareness. Frequently called the flamestone,
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the fluorescent soda light, or simply you prolite, and people
use these in meditations now to enhance focus, connect with Earth,
energy grounding obviously, lots of cool jewelry, and so symbolically,
they say, the physical act of searching for them with
UV lights is used as a metaphor for looking for
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positivity and truth in challenging situations. I wonder what Eric,
the guy who discovered this, would think about all that.
That would be wild to say, like, I discovered this
thing that's been there since the dawn of time. I
discovered in twenty seventeen, and now these people are already
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writing all this stuff about it on the internet. Yeah,
just look it up. But just something cool, you prolatee
if you got that somehow, if you guess that, be honest,
let me know. But don't tell me you did if
you didn't, Okay, I'll know. You know, really when you
start thinking about how much power and how many mysterious
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amazing things are just trapped in rocks and metals. I mean,
the other day I bought a flashlight, just a little
plastic flashlight. It's gotten no batteries, it's got no hand crank,
it's got none of that stuff, no magnets or anything.
And you unscrew it and it has just two metal
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plates in there, and you just fill it with a
little salt water. I mean I took a little teaspoon
of salt water, just table salt, put a little teaspoon
of table salt in there, and put some tap water
in it, screwed on the cap boom. It turns on
the light and it will light for hundreds and hundreds
of hours before that needs to be replaced. And so
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it's just saltwater interacting with these little metal plates. And
I don't forget how much I paid for it, but
it wasn't that expensive. And then also, I mean you
could use other things if you were in a real
emergency situation. They say you could you could urinate in there.
I mean, there are a lot of things that will
will trigger this function. So I don't know. I'm just
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always amazed by how much potential energy is sitting there
around us, and how many mysterious things are yet to
be discovered. And that's a very very good example of it,
I think. So, okay, quick question for you before we
run out of time. Why do you think that thousands
of years ago the Chinese people started using chopsticks instead
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of forks and knives and things like that is mental manner? Well,
they say that two big reasons. One is because they
have a tradition of cutting food into very small pieces
to save fuel, and it's good for picking up nice,
small little pieces with precision. But also it's considered non
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violent that a knife or a fork could be considered
an aggressive, violent thing to bring to a table, and
a chopstick is more peaceful, even though in some martial
arts movies I have seen some people do some pretty
disgusting things to each other with chopsticks. All right, clock
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