March 3, 2026 • 42 mins
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Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am
your host, Captain Ron, and today we're going to be
doing something a little bit different. There's no guests today.
I've just been getting a lot of questions lately regarding
the UFO alien phenomenon, and I think it's time we
do a show about perspective and the importance of keeping
an open mind with regard to these topics. Each of
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these four segments will take a different approach to keeping
things in perspective. Some people will say to me, They'll say,
I have an open mind because I think some lights
in the sky might be UFOs okay, But an open
mind means that you also think that they might be
something else, something more terrestrial. I think it's important to
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remember that with anything, you have to wait until you
have more knowledge and perhaps a different reference point before
making these determinations. It's my opinion that the vast majority,
like ninety nine percent of these sightings do in fact
have a terrestrial explanation. We have all seen strange lights
in the sky. We have all seen tricks of the
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light or something we couldn't quite immediately identify. That doesn't
mean the only explanation is alien. I think some sightings
are actually anomalous and definitely require more scientific investigation as
well as speculation from the observers, as they very well
might be looking at something else entirely. There's too many
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experienced observers who have witnessed such sightings. Sometimes just by
us physically moving, things come into focus and we realize
exactly what we're looking at. Sometimes you look up and
wonder what the heck is that, and then suddenly these
lights in the sky that you were looking at and
you realize it was just a cluster of birds. Like
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when you look at a three D sign that's designed
to spell out a name, but only when you are
standing in the correct position viewing it from the correct angle.
If you are off angle by just a little bit,
things look like a mess. But then when you're in
a correct position and your perspective is correct, then the
science can be read clearly. Perspective is the important factor here.
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Sometimes our perspective changes because we physically move, like in
the three D sign example. Sometimes our perspective changes because
time has passed and we can look at something from
a new perspective. What was scary at age nine may
not be scary and may even be silly at age fifteen.
Things in life that were important to us at twenty
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might not be so important to us at forty. Grotcho
Marx was hugely popular and considered hilarious in the early
twentieth century, but it doesn't land the same to today's
audiences who look at it from a different perspective. Another
way our perspective can change is technology and knowledge gained
from that technology. There's this notion that you've probably heard
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it from the seventeen hundreds, called the invisible ship's phenomenon.
It states that when the new explorers came from Europe
to the Americas, the indigenous people didn't even see the
ships coming because they didn't know what ships were, so
they had no reference or perspective to know what they
were looking at, so they couldn't even see the ships.
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That's the perception the Europeans had based on the reaction
of the natives. It does illustrate the point that we
all operate from our own paradigm in worldview. We know
the culmination of what we have learned and experienced and
deal with on a daily basi. I think most of
us would be scared or at the very least startled
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if we saw a ladybug that was ten inches long.
That's outside our belief system of what we know a
ladybug should be. That's one way to look at things.
Another way is to think of it as we don't
know what we don't know. It's hard to think of
things this way. Put yet another way, there's a well
known quote from Arthur C. Clark that says, any sufficiently
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advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That's because it's more
advanced and we don't yet understand it. Let's imagine you
could time travel back to eighteen seventy five, keeping in
mind that that is only one hundred and fifty years ago,
not ten thousand years ago, but a mere one hundred
and fifty years ago, a very short amount of time
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in the grand scheme of things, considering modern humans have
been around for about one hundred and sixty thousand years.
So you go up to the world's leading scientist of
eighteen seventy five and show them your cell phone and
say you can talk to any human being on the
planet on this little device. Instantly, their minds would be blown.
They would probably have a very hard time even grasping
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the idea idea of this. They have never even spoke
on the telephone with anyone, let alone across the globe,
let alone on a screen face to face, let alone
in the palm of your hand. They have absolutely no
point of reference as to what you have. Then you
show them that you can also look up anything you
wanted to right in the palm of your hand on
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that same device. This would certainly be earth shattering to them.
Like the stories we have heard of native people seeing
pictures of themselves for the first time. This can actually
also work in reverse. A fun YouTube search is to
watch young kids looking at a landline phone, the old
corded rotary style phones that were around even in the eighties.
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They literally do not even have any idea how to
operate it, which brings me to another notion regarding perspective.
That is, we can be very close to something and
yet so very far away. It may be just out
of reate. We may in fact be very close to
hear a message from another civilization or even seeing another
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life form, but we might be just off in our
ability to detect them. You only have to be off
by a tiny fraction and something maybe utterly useless, like
the rotary phone. If you were trapped and only had
an old rotary phone to call for help, if you
didn't know how to use it, you're out of luck.
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You'd be so close to being able to make a
call for help, yet unable to do so. This reminds
me of the Gold Record that we sent out into
space on the Voyager pro back in nineteen seventy seven,
which is still traveling through space, by the way, and
is about fifteen billion miles from Earth and still sending
back data. This gold disc was filled with music and
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sounds and images of Earth for another alien civilization to find.
What a fantastic idea. Of course, if anyone from another
civilization did find this, they too would have to have
a record player and know how to access those sounds.
Let's say they're smart enough to realize they need a
record player, or for some reason they do have a
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record player. They would then have to also know what
speed to play that record at. This tiny distinction could
give them an entirely different idea of what we are
trying to communicate. Without that specific technology used in precisely
the correct way, they wouldn't be able to access it correctly.
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So close but yet so far away. That's the problem.
In today's terms. We've all been there. We want to
charge up our phone or another device, and there's a
charger right there, but it turns out it doesn't fit
our exact model. Therefore, we can't charge up so close
but so far away, just by not having the exact
adapter to fit our device, a charger is useless to us.
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Like the SETI program the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, this
is a great idea. Also, it's a telescope array that
listens for radio frequencies from space. Awesome. However, this too,
only works if there's another civilization using radio signals and
using the exact same radio frequency range that we are
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listening for, and it's coming from the exact place in
space that we're looking at. Another way to think of
this perspective is that you could literally live right next
door to a radio station. You look out your window
and there's a giant antent of broadcasting all sorts of
fascinating information. If you do not have a receiver, you
can't hear it and it's right next door to you.
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Worse than that, let's say you do have a receiver
and it's right there, but you're off by one millimeter
when tuning it in, so you still can't dial in
that station, Or maybe you don't know how to dial
it incorrectly, like with the example of the rotary phone.
You know how to make a call, but you don't
know how to make a call on that type of phone.
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Pondering these examples shows us how close we might be
to make in contact with another civilization, but we may
not fully see them, hear them, or realize their presence
because we don't understand how to. You can imagine how
close we might be to understanding another civilization's messages, but
we may just be off station by one millimeter. I
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think it's imperative that we keep an open mind with
regard to this, as perhaps as our technology expands, we
will in fact one day be able to see here
or understand another civilization's messages or presents. When we come back,
we're going to talk more about how technology and knowledge
is continuously changing our perspective. You're listening to Beyond Contact
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with Captain Ron right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Beyond Contact. Technology,
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knowledge and our perspective is constantly changing and opening new
avenues of discovery. Microscopic organisms were discovered in the late
seventeenth century. Before that, the notion of tiny, little living
organisms being everywhere surely would have been thought of as crazy.
It wasn't until into the eighteen eighties, after the telephone
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was invented by the way that we discovered the first
scientific evidence that microorganisms are even part of the normal
human system. The infrared spectrum camera was invented around nineteen ten,
and it allowed us to see into the infrared spectrum
of light, which sees beyond what our eyes can see.
In nineteen fifty seven, French scientists Vladimir Gavro first began
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researching infrasound machine that could hear well beyond that of
the human ear. There are, of course, countless examples of
this idea of how technology has allowed us to see
something that has existed the entire time, but it was
just out of reach of our perception. There are, of course,
countless other examples of this idea of how technology has
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allowed us to see something that has existed the entire time,
but it was just out of reach of our perception
because we didn't have the ability to detect it. Throughout history,
there have been severe criticisms of anyone challenging the existing
position or norm. It's a pattern that is repeated over
and over and over, and it seems maddening to me
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that we haven't grown more open minded as we see
this happening continuously throughout history. This has spanned across religion
and science for as long as they have existed to
this day, it still goes on, and often those who
challenge accepted Ourchael logical discoveries, for example, are shunned or
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even excluded for having those ideas. In an oversimplification to
illustrate the point, it's the notion that many ancient cultures
subscribe to a flat earth cosmography. Then we realized, of course,
that the Earth was in fact round. These ideas are
often later established and become the new norm as our
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knowledge evolves, which just shows we all need to be
much more open minded with all of these ideas. Resisting
these new ideas so vorociously seems foolish, as oftentimes these
ideas eventually become proven correct as we gain more knowledge,
often through technological advancements. I believe many of these things
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we currently view as unknowns will become apparent to us
as we gain more technology and thus more knowledge. It
feels wrong to be so dismissive of these ideas that
challenge the currently held paradigm as perhaps it's just a
matter of not having the right perspective or technological know how.
Don't just dismiss something out of hand because it doesn't
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line up with your current worldview, which will one day
most certainly be an archaic paradigm. It's always about relative perspective.
We may very well be wrong in our assumptions about
many of these ideas and discoveries. Perhaps the ancient crystal
skulls are in fact storage devices that hold information about
the Earth or the universe, but we just don't know
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how to access it. We may be so close and
yet so far. Like when people dismiss the notion of
an extraterrestrial civilization visiting Earth, they are speaking from their
paradigm using their current technology. They will often say, oh,
you can't get there from here. What they really mean
to say is you can't get there from here using
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the technology that we have today, because that would take
over ten thousand years. The nearest star is four point
two light years away. A light year is the distance
that light travels in one Earth year, which is about
six trillion miles for those keeping track. So if we
could travel near the speed of light, it would take
us about four years. With today's current technology, we can
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travel about thirty seven thousand miles an hour, so it
would take us tens of thousands of years to make
that journey. Obviously, we could develop faster and faster ways
to traverse space, of which several are being developed right now.
We could perhaps even develop an entirely new way to
move about the universe, or perhaps even inter dimensionally. There's
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speculation we could even fold space and thus cover vast
distances in short amounts of time, using what some have
called wormholes. As just one example, in the fifteenth century,
you can easily imagine Europeans saying exactly the same thing
about the new world of North America, that you can't
get there from here. Of course, many of them didn't
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even believe there was a here to come to, simply
because they hadn't had the technology to know better. But
of course, when we did discover the new world, it
would take a minimum of two to four months, depending
on the weather, to make that trip just one way
for a reference, that's about fourteen hundred to twenty eight
hundred hours. Quite a journey. Let's again imagine you could
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travel back to eighteen twenty five, just two hundred years ago.
This is before we had steamship technology or even Morse code,
so travel and communication was what we would consider today
painfully slow. Then we developed through technology better ships and
even planes. Today boats can go from New York to
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London in about one hundred and thirty five hours instead
of the twenty eight hundred hours that used to take,
and I bet you two hundred years from now that
one hundred and thirty five hour number will seem painfully slow.
We now, of course, even have planes yet to be
imagined technology that they didn't have in eighteen twenty five,
and the Concord plane can make the trip from New
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York to London in under three hours. So something that
just two hundred years ago would take twenty eight hundred
dollars now takes under three We're talking about one one
thousandth of the time. I can certainly imagine people in
eighteen twenty five saying there's no way you can get
there from here in anything close to that time. It
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was simply impossible from their worldview, from their state of
technology at the time. So we have to be open minded,
and we have to remember we are using our current
state of technology as a point of reference. Many of
these unknowns of today will surely be within our scope
of understanding in the future in nineteen hundred, not that
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long ago at all. The famed British physicist Lord Kelvin stated,
now there is nothing new to discover in physics. What
only remains is to be measured more and more precisely. Wow,
holy hubris, what an example of us being so egotistically
locked into our own current point of reference. These analogies
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are to illustrate the point that things change. These comparisons
to our technology or knowledge base are from just one
hundred and fifty to two hundred years ago. They also
illustrate how fast and how dramatic our views, our technology,
and our knowledge and understanding can change in a very
short time. And now we are just beginning with another
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new revolution, that of artificial intelligence. Already we can see
how technological growth is happening exponentially. One can easily imagine
if another civilization created artificial intelligence, as seems inevitable, how
fast their technology could evolve. Not only have they most
likely had a huge jump in linear time on us,
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but depending on when they develop things like AI or
perhaps something even more advanced, something unknown to us, you
can imagine how fast their technological growth would be. A
civilization reaching our current level just one thousand years earlier,
than we have, and you can imagine how far ahead
they would be technologically, and they, of course have had
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potentially nine billion more years to develop. Keeping in mind
that the accepted age of the universe is thirteen point
seven billion years old and the accepted age of the
Earth is just four point five billion years old, it
seems very reasonable to assume that another intelligent civilization in
the universe could be over nine billion years ahead of
us in technological development. Given what we have learned in
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just the last two hundred years, you can imagine a
civilization wouldn't need to be nine billion years ahead of
us technologically, but a mere nine million years or even
nine thousand years could mean such a vast difference in
understanding of the universe that it would easily be incomprehensible
for us from our current perspective to even understand. When
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you consider what a profoundly rapid change AI is making
in our understanding of the world in the universe, you
can easily extrapolate that out to a civilization that's a
one thousand or let's say, ten thousand years ahead of us,
and you can imagine how even a slight jump on
us technologically would put them vastly ahead of us. Faced
with an advanced society with higher technology, we may not
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even be able to grasp the fanciful notions that they
have mastered. We just saw how a two hundred year
advantage that we have over those in eighteen twenty five,
and how drastically our understanding of the universe and the
human experience is. And that's from the same species, in
the same location, on the same planet, just simply looking
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at the world from a two hundred year difference in perspective. Next,
we will look at how every major advance in science
shattered a previous belief that was certain and everyone accepted
as factual. These new discoveries were often criticized or dismissed
entirely until through technology, we are able to gain the
knowledge to prove them. You're listening to Beyond Contact on
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the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
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We are back on Beyond Contact. When you sit back
and take a look at it, nearly every major advance
in science shattered a previously held belief that was believed
to be a certainty and everyone accepted as factual. I'd
like to run through a series of these examples for perspective. So,
going back to twenty five hundred BC, the Egyptians thought
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that the sun god raw, carried the Sun across the
sky in the daytime and then brought it back through
a tunnel under the earth at night. This is literally comical.
Today a nine year old would laugh at this notion.
In five hundred BC, the first worked out that the
Earth wasn't flat, going against the common belief that it
was indeed flat. Two thousand years later, in fifteen forty three,
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Nicholas Copernicus figured out that the Earth revolved around the
Sun at a time when nobody knew that the stars
were even other suns, and he did this using only
the naked eye without any technology. Fifteen years later, in
fifteen nineteen, the Magellan Elcano expedition was the first to
provide practical proof that the Earth was actually round. In
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the year sixteen hundred, Geodorno Bruno was buried alive at
the stake and his ashes were thrown into the Tiber River.
This was for several reasons, including that he proposed that
the stars were distant suns surrounded by their own planets
what we call today exoplanets, and he raised the possibility
that these planets might foster life of their own. Bruno
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was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges
of denial of several core Catholic dot org He also
believed in pantheism, meaning he regarded the universe as a
manifestation of God, and he believed in reincarnation of the soul.
It was only after his death that he gained considerable fame,
particularly by nineteenth and twentieth century commentators, who regarded him
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as a martyr for science. His case is still considered
a landmark in the history of free thought and the
emerging sciences. In sixteen ten, Galileo pretty much confirmed Comperticus's
belief that the Earth went around the Sun. At that time,
the Catholic Church classified it as heresy and warned him
to abandon it. It is said that he luckily was
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only spared torture and death like Bruno faced, because his
powerful friends intervened on his behalf. Nearly four hundred years later,
in nineteen eighty nine, they even launched a space probe
with his name on it. In the eighteen sixties and seventies,
when famed scientist Louis Pastor presented his findings on fermentation
in the role of microorganisms. Some scientists and medical professionals
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were very skeptical of the germ theory because it challenged
the prevailing miasma theory, which held that diseases were caused
by bad error or vapors. This theory was widely accepted
and ingrained in medical practices of the time, so Pastor's
ideas were met with much resistance from those who were
invested in the traditional theories. By the late nineteenth century,
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Pastor was proven to be correct and eventually revolutionized medicine
and microbiology. Another example, in eighteen sixty five, James Clark
Maxwell's groundbreaking equations introduced a unified theory of electricity and magnetism.
They were initially met with resistance, as well as experimental
evidence and technological advances in the late nineteenth and early
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twentieth centuries validated Maxwell's theories. The initial criticism finally diminished,
and by the early twentieth century his work has become
widely accepted and recognized as a cornerstone of classical electromagnetism. Then,
in nineteen twenty three, again were only talking about one
hundred years ago, Edwin Hubbell and other astronomers all thought
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that our Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe. But
then at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California, they discovered
the first galaxy beyond our own. Up until then, the
entire world believed that the entirety of the universe was
just what we now consider our one small, little Milky
Way galaxy. In fact, today we believe that there are
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up to two hundred trillion galaxies. It's hard to believe
that just one hundred years ago we thought there was
one our own that was the whole universe, and today
we know that we are one in perhaps two hundred trillion.
Incredible to think we were again wrong by so much,
and that was just one hundred years ago. But thanks
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again to technology, we now know otherwise. The other galaxies
were always there, but we didn't know how to see them.
In nineteen thirty, Alfred Wagner proposed the Earth's continents move
very slowly over millions of years, they can move a
long way. Between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty nine, he
published a stream of fossil and rock evidence to support
this theory. He died in nineteen thirty, again less than
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one hundred years ago. His theory of continental drift was
rejected by most scientists during his lifetime. It was only
in the nineteen sixties that continental drift finally became part
of mainstream science. In nineteen sixty four, Peter Higgs of
Higgs Boson fame and his team first proposed the Higgs
Boson particles existence. At the time, the standard model of
particle physics had not yet even been conceived. It took
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nearly fifty years later in the creation of the Large
Hadron Collider to finally prove his theory. He was one
of the lucky ones, as he was alive and able
to see his theory proven true, and he was validated
during his lifetime. In nineteen ninety two, doctor Alexander Wolscand
discovered the first exoplanet, meaning a planet around another star
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outside our Solar system. Now we are taught talking about
just thirty five years ago. This widely held consensus belief
at the time was that there were no planets around
any stars period. Thanks to technology today, we now believe
one in five stars has planets around them. Again, we
were so far off of what we now know to
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be reality. As I mentioned before, our galaxy alone is
known to have between one hundred and two hundred billion planets,
with approximately sixty billion of those planets in what they're
calling the habitable zone that could potentially harbor life. Again,
that's using our paradigm for our type of life. So
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this could in fact one day be an even bigger
number as well, and it could be even bigger yet
if you start to think about the existence of other
dimensions or realms. An important note here is the whole
time when science was considering other life in the universe,
it was with the understanding that there were no other
planets in the universe. In twenty seventeen, astronomer Robert Work,
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working in Hawaii, detected a strange object traveling through our
solar system. This turned out to be the first known
interstellar object in our galaxy and was named a Muamua
Avi Lobe. The head of astronomy at Harvard brought this
name to prominence in twenty twenty one when he speculated
that this could in fact be a craft from outside
our Solar System. In twenty twenty, a team of researchers
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led by Jane Graves from Cardiff University in the UK
announced the discovery of a significant source of phosphorin, which
is a biosignature gas that's closely related to life on
Earth in the clouds above Venus. These scientists were shamed
for claiming signs of life on Venus, but now they're
back with even more evidence, and this is now being
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considered today. There are countless examples of scientists who were
discredited and later, often after their death, proven to be correct.
These examples also illustrate how far off our accepted beliefs were.
I mean by factors of millions, sometimes trillion. It's astonishing
how off we were. Perhaps there are in fact different dimensions,
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but we don't know how to see them because we
don't have the technological know how yet to do so.
Perhaps other civilizations are reaching out to us, but we
don't have the technological know how on how to hear
and decipher these messages. Given a little time and technology,
our belief system can easily be turned on its head,
as we've seen. The point of all these examples is
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we may not understand what is happening with all this
phenomena in and around the UFO field, but that doesn't
mean it's not real. It may just mean we don't
have the technology or the knowledge to fully understand them yet,
And maybe we are off by one millimeters somewhere from
receiving the messages from across the universe. We are just
now getting to the point where we are unable to
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tell if someone is AI or a real human being.
If we did come upon an extraterrestrial form of AI,
and we were somehow able to communicate with it, we
would have no way of knowing if it's in fact
a form of artificial intelligence itself or actually an alien
intelligent as we would have no point of reference or
perspective on it. Again, it seems most likely to me
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that this would be the case, as it seems to
make much more sense for our civilization to send out
some form of AI instead of a biological being to
explore the universe. But then again, of course, I'm thinking
with our current way of understanding, it is clearly ignorant
to judge everything by our current state of technology and
our current paradigms. We all have unique world views based
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on what science tells us and what our life experience
has taught us. But I think it's important that we
all remember that this will change in the future, so
we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss other possibilities, as
most assuredly, our technology, our knowledge, and our reference point
will most certainly change. Better to be open minded when
these changes come than locked into a worldview which will
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one day certainly be an archaic one. Speaking of paradigms,
check out the website of Danny Sheehan's organization at the
New Paradigm Institute dot org, as they are doing incredible
work on moving our knowledge in this area forward. When
we return, we're going to take a look at the
latest technologies and how they may affect our understanding of
possible extraterrestrial communication as well as our own human experiences.
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You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Beyond Contact.
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I am Captain Ron, and we've been talking about the
importance of perspective and having an open mind with regard
to ET and UFO issues. We've seen how technology can
open up a whole new world to us, often one
that was always there but we just didn't know how
to person if its presence. And we've talked about how
oftentimes many of these new discoveries were ridiculed or dismissed
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out of hand, yet eventually those outlandish ideas were often
later proven true. You can see how all this applies
nicely to the notion of alien civilizations. We have seen
throughout history that mankind has been caught up in its
own hubris, when in fact it is very often wrong
in even the basic understandings of the universe as we
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now know it to be. There are other technological developments
which could have a huge profound effect on what we
know about the universe and may help in the search
of extraterrestrial life. There's the proposed Habitable World's Observatory, which
would be a large infrared, optical and ultraviolet space telescope.
It would be optimized to search for and image Earth
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sized habitable exoplanets in the habitable zones of their stars
where liquid water can exist. There is also the ELT,
aptly named the Extremely Large Telescope in Chile's Atacama Desert.
This telescope is to be operational in twenty twenty eight
and will be one hundred and thirty feet across, making
it the largest ever built. It will track down earthlike
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planets around other stars and could become the first telescope
to find evidence of life outside of our solar system.
The leap forward with the ELT can lead to a
paradigm shift in our perception of the entire universe, much
like Galileo's telescope did four hundred years ago. Next, I'd
like to talk about us being on the verge of
yet another scientific revolution which is poised to utterly change
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the human experience as we know it. The first part
of this is the onset of artificial intelligence. Given the
digital computing is fundamentally based on mathematics, which is a
universal language that describes patterns, structures, and relationships, these systems
reflect fundamental principles that are likely to be universal. Therefore,
does stand the reason that another advanced civilization may develop
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its own form of digital artificial intelligence, and or perhaps
something even more intriguing. As we are just getting a
handle on understanding this technology, we can already see how
it could vastly improve our space exploration, and as I
mentioned earlier, it seems like a much more logical choice
to send AI out into space to explore the universe
instead of humans. AI doesn't need breaks does it need
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to eat, doesn't get sick, doesn't die, doesn't have to
report to the wife. Nothing. It can continuously learn and
send back data to us. We are starting to see
artificial general intelligence systems emerge that possess general cognitive abilities
that are similar to human intelligence. We are already hearing
about artificial superintelligence, which is a form of AI that
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would surpass even the best human minds in every field,
including creativity, problem solving, and social intelligence. And it's just
going to continue exponentially from there. Elon Musk is currently
building the world's largest supercomputer called XAI. This computer will
have over one hundred thousand of these specialized Navidia superconductors
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to train and run the next version of his gronk AI.
It's just massive. It's being built in a facility that
has over seven hundred and eighty five thousand square feet
and is set to open in twenty twenty five. And
this is not the only one. Others are being designed
to be built right now as well. Not only will
AI greatly enhance our ability to explore the universe, but
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it will give us better technology to understand what's happening
in our skies right here on Earth. It can help
us search for UFOs by analyzing large amounts of data
from various sources such as radar, satellite imagery, radio signals,
and even eyewitness reports. It has the ability to identify
things like planets, planes, drones, and the space station. AI
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algorithms can be trained to detect patterns or anomalies shifting
through just massive amounts of information, making it much easier
for researchers to focus only on the anomalies and the
data and investigate those further. Additionally, there are new artificial
intelligence models that can detect alien life. According to a
study published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National
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Academy of Sciences. They say this algorithm can distinguish between
samples of biological and non biological origin ninety percent of
the time. This method should be able to detect alien
biochemistries as well as things similar to Earth life. It
states that these results mean that we may be able
to find a life form from another planet, another biosphere,
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even if it's very different from the life we know
here on Earth. And if we do find signs of
life elsewhere, we can tell if life on Earth and
other planets derived from a common or a different origin. Obviously,
this is not necessarily intelligent life, but it will verify
confirmed life out there to mainstream science, which is a
massive step on its own. If we do discover some
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new message sent from an alien civilization, we would need
AI systems to decode and figure out the translation of
such messages. Not to mention, if we do actually have
an interaction with another intelligence, we would again need an
AI system in order to be able to communicate with them.
AI did start off as a language model, after all,
and as has been said earlier, not only would we
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send AI up to Explorer space because AI travels better
than a biologic being like humans, but aliens too would
most likely be sending some sort of artificial intelligence as well.
So it is actually quite likely that the first official
alien human communication would really be AI to AI. This
is such a new frontier that we really don't know
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where it's headed. Neither do the top people in this field.
For example, Jeffrey Hinton, considered the godfather of AI, has
expressed concerns about the dangers and fears of artificial intelligence.
Here's a couple quotes that he has said on the subject.
The alarm bell I'm ringing has to do with the
existential threat of them taking control. I used to think
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this was a long way off, but I now think
it's serious and fairly. He also wrote, it's quite conceivable
that humanity is just a passing phase in the evolution
of intelligence.
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Wow.
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Pretty incredible. Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, has been
quoted as saying, I prep for survival, including AI that
attacks us. So clearly, we really don't know what AI
will become or what it's capable of, but it's important
to note how the top people in this field are
clearly concerned. There is yet another development, also by Elon Musk.
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They may have an equally profound effect on the world.
That is his Neurallink company and their brain computer interfaces
or BCIs. These are computer chip brain implants that could
potentially transform various aspects of medicine, technology, and human enhancement
in the future. These BCIs could enable direct brain to
brain communication or allow individuals to communicate with outspoken language,
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creating an entirely new form of interaction. Not to mention
the speed of this community, which will be much faster
than anything we have now. As you can imagine, it
will continuously get faster. Just as computers of ten years
ago are unusuably slow today, the same will happen here.
More importantly, these brain computer interfaces could allow for more
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seamless interaction between humans and artificial intelligence, enabling an almost
cyborg like instant integration with AI systems. These computer interactions
could take place at speeds ten times as fast as
we communicate, and up of what we now take to
communicate with a computer system. They are already saying that
the slow part of our interaction with AI is the
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time it takes for the human being to input to
the computer. Computers can already calculate one quintillion calculations per second.
The human experience as we know it and have known
it to be is about to go through profound changes
over just the next couple generations, and this is already
happening right now. Two people have already had a computer
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chip implant, and two more are getting it imminently. Neuralink
is a form of human augmentation, but this too could
potentially assist in the search for UFOs. It could potentially
enhance human perception by connecting our brains directly to sensors
or devices that can detect signals related to UFO sightings.
This enhanced perception could allow individuals to detect and interpret
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signals or phenomenon related to UFOs that are beyond our
natural senses. It could enable direct access to an analysis
of vast amounts of data related to UFO sightings and experiences.
People could analyze and interpret this data more efficiently, potentially
leading to new insights and discoveries about the UFO phenomenon.
This technology could potentially enhance human capabilities and allow us
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to perhaps gain a better understanding of many of these
different mysterious phenomenon. AI and neuralink have a huge potential
to utterly change the human experience and the way we
both understand and interact with our world. Perhaps these technologies
will lead us to be able to detect and eva
and interpret messages from an alien civilization. Once again, It's
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possible these messages are already coming here, we just haven't
had the technology to hear them yet. These are just
a couple examples, The point being that I believe we
should stay at the very least open minded with regards
to these topics. As history has shown us time and
time again, Eventually our way of thinking will become an archaic,
ignorant way of thinking. Hit us up on social media
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Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am
your host, Captain Ron, and today we're going to be
doing something a little bit different. There's no guests today.
I've just been getting a lot of questions lately regarding
the UFO alien phenomenon, and I think it's time we
do a show about perspective and the importance of keeping
an open mind with regard to these topics. Each of
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these four segments will take a different approach to keeping
things in perspective. Some people will say to me, They'll say,
I have an open mind because I think some lights
in the sky might be UFOs okay, But an open
mind means that you also think that they might be
something else, something more terrestrial. I think it's important to
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remember that with anything, you have to wait until you
have more knowledge and perhaps a different reference point before
making these determinations. It's my opinion that the vast majority,
like ninety nine percent of these sightings do in fact
have a terrestrial explanation. We have all seen strange lights
in the sky. We have all seen tricks of the
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light or something we couldn't quite immediately identify. That doesn't
mean the only explanation is alien. I think some sightings
are actually anomalous and definitely require more scientific investigation as
well as speculation from the observers, as they very well
might be looking at something else entirely. There's too many
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experienced observers who have witnessed such sightings. Sometimes just by
us physically moving, things come into focus and we realize
exactly what we're looking at. Sometimes you look up and
wonder what the heck is that, and then suddenly these
lights in the sky that you were looking at and
you realize it was just a cluster of birds. Like
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when you look at a three D sign that's designed
to spell out a name, but only when you are
standing in the correct position viewing it from the correct angle.
If you are off angle by just a little bit,
things look like a mess. But then when you're in
a correct position and your perspective is correct, then the
science can be read clearly. Perspective is the important factor here.
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Sometimes our perspective changes because we physically move, like in
the three D sign example. Sometimes our perspective changes because
time has passed and we can look at something from
a new perspective. What was scary at age nine may
not be scary and may even be silly at age fifteen.
Things in life that were important to us at twenty
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might not be so important to us at forty. Grotcho
Marx was hugely popular and considered hilarious in the early
twentieth century, but it doesn't land the same to today's
audiences who look at it from a different perspective. Another
way our perspective can change is technology and knowledge gained
from that technology. There's this notion that you've probably heard
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it from the seventeen hundreds, called the invisible ship's phenomenon.
It states that when the new explorers came from Europe
to the Americas, the indigenous people didn't even see the
ships coming because they didn't know what ships were, so
they had no reference or perspective to know what they
were looking at, so they couldn't even see the ships.
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That's the perception the Europeans had based on the reaction
of the natives. It does illustrate the point that we
all operate from our own paradigm in worldview. We know
the culmination of what we have learned and experienced and
deal with on a daily basi. I think most of
us would be scared or at the very least startled
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if we saw a ladybug that was ten inches long.
That's outside our belief system of what we know a
ladybug should be. That's one way to look at things.
Another way is to think of it as we don't
know what we don't know. It's hard to think of
things this way. Put yet another way, there's a well
known quote from Arthur C. Clark that says, any sufficiently
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advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That's because it's more
advanced and we don't yet understand it. Let's imagine you
could time travel back to eighteen seventy five, keeping in
mind that that is only one hundred and fifty years ago,
not ten thousand years ago, but a mere one hundred
and fifty years ago, a very short amount of time
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in the grand scheme of things, considering modern humans have
been around for about one hundred and sixty thousand years.
So you go up to the world's leading scientist of
eighteen seventy five and show them your cell phone and
say you can talk to any human being on the
planet on this little device. Instantly, their minds would be blown.
They would probably have a very hard time even grasping
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the idea idea of this. They have never even spoke
on the telephone with anyone, let alone across the globe,
let alone on a screen face to face, let alone
in the palm of your hand. They have absolutely no
point of reference as to what you have. Then you
show them that you can also look up anything you
wanted to right in the palm of your hand on
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that same device. This would certainly be earth shattering to them.
Like the stories we have heard of native people seeing
pictures of themselves for the first time. This can actually
also work in reverse. A fun YouTube search is to
watch young kids looking at a landline phone, the old
corded rotary style phones that were around even in the eighties.
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They literally do not even have any idea how to
operate it, which brings me to another notion regarding perspective.
That is, we can be very close to something and
yet so very far away. It may be just out
of reate. We may in fact be very close to
hear a message from another civilization or even seeing another
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life form, but we might be just off in our
ability to detect them. You only have to be off
by a tiny fraction and something maybe utterly useless, like
the rotary phone. If you were trapped and only had
an old rotary phone to call for help, if you
didn't know how to use it, you're out of luck.
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You'd be so close to being able to make a
call for help, yet unable to do so. This reminds
me of the Gold Record that we sent out into
space on the Voyager pro back in nineteen seventy seven,
which is still traveling through space, by the way, and
is about fifteen billion miles from Earth and still sending
back data. This gold disc was filled with music and
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sounds and images of Earth for another alien civilization to find.
What a fantastic idea. Of course, if anyone from another
civilization did find this, they too would have to have
a record player and know how to access those sounds.
Let's say they're smart enough to realize they need a
record player, or for some reason they do have a
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record player. They would then have to also know what
speed to play that record at. This tiny distinction could
give them an entirely different idea of what we are
trying to communicate. Without that specific technology used in precisely
the correct way, they wouldn't be able to access it correctly.
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So close but yet so far away. That's the problem.
In today's terms. We've all been there. We want to
charge up our phone or another device, and there's a
charger right there, but it turns out it doesn't fit
our exact model. Therefore, we can't charge up so close
but so far away, just by not having the exact
adapter to fit our device, a charger is useless to us.
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Like the SETI program the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, this
is a great idea. Also, it's a telescope array that
listens for radio frequencies from space. Awesome. However, this too,
only works if there's another civilization using radio signals and
using the exact same radio frequency range that we are
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listening for, and it's coming from the exact place in
space that we're looking at. Another way to think of
this perspective is that you could literally live right next
door to a radio station. You look out your window
and there's a giant antent of broadcasting all sorts of
fascinating information. If you do not have a receiver, you
can't hear it and it's right next door to you.
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Worse than that, let's say you do have a receiver
and it's right there, but you're off by one millimeter
when tuning it in, so you still can't dial in
that station, Or maybe you don't know how to dial
it incorrectly, like with the example of the rotary phone.
You know how to make a call, but you don't
know how to make a call on that type of phone.
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Pondering these examples shows us how close we might be
to make in contact with another civilization, but we may
not fully see them, hear them, or realize their presence
because we don't understand how to. You can imagine how
close we might be to understanding another civilization's messages, but
we may just be off station by one millimeter. I
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think it's imperative that we keep an open mind with
regard to this, as perhaps as our technology expands, we
will in fact one day be able to see here
or understand another civilization's messages or presents. When we come back,
we're going to talk more about how technology and knowledge
is continuously changing our perspective. You're listening to Beyond Contact
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with Captain Ron right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Beyond Contact. Technology,
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knowledge and our perspective is constantly changing and opening new
avenues of discovery. Microscopic organisms were discovered in the late
seventeenth century. Before that, the notion of tiny, little living
organisms being everywhere surely would have been thought of as crazy.
It wasn't until into the eighteen eighties, after the telephone
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was invented by the way that we discovered the first
scientific evidence that microorganisms are even part of the normal
human system. The infrared spectrum camera was invented around nineteen ten,
and it allowed us to see into the infrared spectrum
of light, which sees beyond what our eyes can see.
In nineteen fifty seven, French scientists Vladimir Gavro first began
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researching infrasound machine that could hear well beyond that of
the human ear. There are, of course, countless examples of
this idea of how technology has allowed us to see
something that has existed the entire time, but it was
just out of reach of our perception. There are, of course,
countless other examples of this idea of how technology has
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allowed us to see something that has existed the entire time,
but it was just out of reach of our perception
because we didn't have the ability to detect it. Throughout history,
there have been severe criticisms of anyone challenging the existing
position or norm. It's a pattern that is repeated over
and over and over, and it seems maddening to me
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that we haven't grown more open minded as we see
this happening continuously throughout history. This has spanned across religion
and science for as long as they have existed to
this day, it still goes on, and often those who
challenge accepted Ourchael logical discoveries, for example, are shunned or
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even excluded for having those ideas. In an oversimplification to
illustrate the point, it's the notion that many ancient cultures
subscribe to a flat earth cosmography. Then we realized, of course,
that the Earth was in fact round. These ideas are
often later established and become the new norm as our
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knowledge evolves, which just shows we all need to be
much more open minded with all of these ideas. Resisting
these new ideas so vorociously seems foolish, as oftentimes these
ideas eventually become proven correct as we gain more knowledge,
often through technological advancements. I believe many of these things
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we currently view as unknowns will become apparent to us
as we gain more technology and thus more knowledge. It
feels wrong to be so dismissive of these ideas that
challenge the currently held paradigm as perhaps it's just a
matter of not having the right perspective or technological know how.
Don't just dismiss something out of hand because it doesn't
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line up with your current worldview, which will one day
most certainly be an archaic paradigm. It's always about relative perspective.
We may very well be wrong in our assumptions about
many of these ideas and discoveries. Perhaps the ancient crystal
skulls are in fact storage devices that hold information about
the Earth or the universe, but we just don't know
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how to access it. We may be so close and
yet so far. Like when people dismiss the notion of
an extraterrestrial civilization visiting Earth, they are speaking from their
paradigm using their current technology. They will often say, oh,
you can't get there from here. What they really mean
to say is you can't get there from here using
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the technology that we have today, because that would take
over ten thousand years. The nearest star is four point
two light years away. A light year is the distance
that light travels in one Earth year, which is about
six trillion miles for those keeping track. So if we
could travel near the speed of light, it would take
us about four years. With today's current technology, we can
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travel about thirty seven thousand miles an hour, so it
would take us tens of thousands of years to make
that journey. Obviously, we could develop faster and faster ways
to traverse space, of which several are being developed right now.
We could perhaps even develop an entirely new way to
move about the universe, or perhaps even inter dimensionally. There's
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speculation we could even fold space and thus cover vast
distances in short amounts of time, using what some have
called wormholes. As just one example, in the fifteenth century,
you can easily imagine Europeans saying exactly the same thing
about the new world of North America, that you can't
get there from here. Of course, many of them didn't
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even believe there was a here to come to, simply
because they hadn't had the technology to know better. But
of course, when we did discover the new world, it
would take a minimum of two to four months, depending
on the weather, to make that trip just one way
for a reference, that's about fourteen hundred to twenty eight
hundred hours. Quite a journey. Let's again imagine you could
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travel back to eighteen twenty five, just two hundred years ago.
This is before we had steamship technology or even Morse code,
so travel and communication was what we would consider today
painfully slow. Then we developed through technology better ships and
even planes. Today boats can go from New York to
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London in about one hundred and thirty five hours instead
of the twenty eight hundred hours that used to take,
and I bet you two hundred years from now that
one hundred and thirty five hour number will seem painfully slow.
We now, of course, even have planes yet to be
imagined technology that they didn't have in eighteen twenty five,
and the Concord plane can make the trip from New
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York to London in under three hours. So something that
just two hundred years ago would take twenty eight hundred
dollars now takes under three We're talking about one one
thousandth of the time. I can certainly imagine people in
eighteen twenty five saying there's no way you can get
there from here in anything close to that time. It
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was simply impossible from their worldview, from their state of
technology at the time. So we have to be open minded,
and we have to remember we are using our current
state of technology as a point of reference. Many of
these unknowns of today will surely be within our scope
of understanding in the future in nineteen hundred, not that
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long ago at all. The famed British physicist Lord Kelvin stated,
now there is nothing new to discover in physics. What
only remains is to be measured more and more precisely. Wow,
holy hubris, what an example of us being so egotistically
locked into our own current point of reference. These analogies
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are to illustrate the point that things change. These comparisons
to our technology or knowledge base are from just one
hundred and fifty to two hundred years ago. They also
illustrate how fast and how dramatic our views, our technology,
and our knowledge and understanding can change in a very
short time. And now we are just beginning with another
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new revolution, that of artificial intelligence. Already we can see
how technological growth is happening exponentially. One can easily imagine
if another civilization created artificial intelligence, as seems inevitable, how
fast their technology could evolve. Not only have they most
likely had a huge jump in linear time on us,
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but depending on when they develop things like AI or
perhaps something even more advanced, something unknown to us, you
can imagine how fast their technological growth would be. A
civilization reaching our current level just one thousand years earlier,
than we have, and you can imagine how far ahead
they would be technologically, and they, of course have had
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potentially nine billion more years to develop. Keeping in mind
that the accepted age of the universe is thirteen point
seven billion years old and the accepted age of the
Earth is just four point five billion years old, it
seems very reasonable to assume that another intelligent civilization in
the universe could be over nine billion years ahead of
us in technological development. Given what we have learned in
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just the last two hundred years, you can imagine a
civilization wouldn't need to be nine billion years ahead of
us technologically, but a mere nine million years or even
nine thousand years could mean such a vast difference in
understanding of the universe that it would easily be incomprehensible
for us from our current perspective to even understand. When
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you consider what a profoundly rapid change AI is making
in our understanding of the world in the universe, you
can easily extrapolate that out to a civilization that's a
one thousand or let's say, ten thousand years ahead of us,
and you can imagine how even a slight jump on
us technologically would put them vastly ahead of us. Faced
with an advanced society with higher technology, we may not
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even be able to grasp the fanciful notions that they
have mastered. We just saw how a two hundred year
advantage that we have over those in eighteen twenty five,
and how drastically our understanding of the universe and the
human experience is. And that's from the same species, in
the same location, on the same planet, just simply looking
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at the world from a two hundred year difference in perspective. Next,
we will look at how every major advance in science
shattered a previous belief that was certain and everyone accepted
as factual. These new discoveries were often criticized or dismissed
entirely until through technology, we are able to gain the
knowledge to prove them. You're listening to Beyond Contact on
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We are back on Beyond Contact. When you sit back
and take a look at it, nearly every major advance
in science shattered a previously held belief that was believed
to be a certainty and everyone accepted as factual. I'd
like to run through a series of these examples for perspective. So,
going back to twenty five hundred BC, the Egyptians thought
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that the sun god raw, carried the Sun across the
sky in the daytime and then brought it back through
a tunnel under the earth at night. This is literally comical.
Today a nine year old would laugh at this notion.
In five hundred BC, the first worked out that the
Earth wasn't flat, going against the common belief that it
was indeed flat. Two thousand years later, in fifteen forty three,
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Nicholas Copernicus figured out that the Earth revolved around the
Sun at a time when nobody knew that the stars
were even other suns, and he did this using only
the naked eye without any technology. Fifteen years later, in
fifteen nineteen, the Magellan Elcano expedition was the first to
provide practical proof that the Earth was actually round. In
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the year sixteen hundred, Geodorno Bruno was buried alive at
the stake and his ashes were thrown into the Tiber River.
This was for several reasons, including that he proposed that
the stars were distant suns surrounded by their own planets
what we call today exoplanets, and he raised the possibility
that these planets might foster life of their own. Bruno
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was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges
of denial of several core Catholic dot org He also
believed in pantheism, meaning he regarded the universe as a
manifestation of God, and he believed in reincarnation of the soul.
It was only after his death that he gained considerable fame,
particularly by nineteenth and twentieth century commentators, who regarded him
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as a martyr for science. His case is still considered
a landmark in the history of free thought and the
emerging sciences. In sixteen ten, Galileo pretty much confirmed Comperticus's
belief that the Earth went around the Sun. At that time,
the Catholic Church classified it as heresy and warned him
to abandon it. It is said that he luckily was
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only spared torture and death like Bruno faced, because his
powerful friends intervened on his behalf. Nearly four hundred years later,
in nineteen eighty nine, they even launched a space probe
with his name on it. In the eighteen sixties and seventies,
when famed scientist Louis Pastor presented his findings on fermentation
in the role of microorganisms. Some scientists and medical professionals
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were very skeptical of the germ theory because it challenged
the prevailing miasma theory, which held that diseases were caused
by bad error or vapors. This theory was widely accepted
and ingrained in medical practices of the time, so Pastor's
ideas were met with much resistance from those who were
invested in the traditional theories. By the late nineteenth century,
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Pastor was proven to be correct and eventually revolutionized medicine
and microbiology. Another example, in eighteen sixty five, James Clark
Maxwell's groundbreaking equations introduced a unified theory of electricity and magnetism.
They were initially met with resistance, as well as experimental
evidence and technological advances in the late nineteenth and early
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twentieth centuries validated Maxwell's theories. The initial criticism finally diminished,
and by the early twentieth century his work has become
widely accepted and recognized as a cornerstone of classical electromagnetism. Then,
in nineteen twenty three, again were only talking about one
hundred years ago, Edwin Hubbell and other astronomers all thought
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that our Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe. But
then at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California, they discovered
the first galaxy beyond our own. Up until then, the
entire world believed that the entirety of the universe was
just what we now consider our one small, little Milky
Way galaxy. In fact, today we believe that there are
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up to two hundred trillion galaxies. It's hard to believe
that just one hundred years ago we thought there was
one our own that was the whole universe, and today
we know that we are one in perhaps two hundred trillion.
Incredible to think we were again wrong by so much,
and that was just one hundred years ago. But thanks
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again to technology, we now know otherwise. The other galaxies
were always there, but we didn't know how to see them.
In nineteen thirty, Alfred Wagner proposed the Earth's continents move
very slowly over millions of years, they can move a
long way. Between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty nine, he
published a stream of fossil and rock evidence to support
this theory. He died in nineteen thirty, again less than
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one hundred years ago. His theory of continental drift was
rejected by most scientists during his lifetime. It was only
in the nineteen sixties that continental drift finally became part
of mainstream science. In nineteen sixty four, Peter Higgs of
Higgs Boson fame and his team first proposed the Higgs
Boson particles existence. At the time, the standard model of
particle physics had not yet even been conceived. It took
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nearly fifty years later in the creation of the Large
Hadron Collider to finally prove his theory. He was one
of the lucky ones, as he was alive and able
to see his theory proven true, and he was validated
during his lifetime. In nineteen ninety two, doctor Alexander Wolscand
discovered the first exoplanet, meaning a planet around another star
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outside our Solar system. Now we are taught talking about
just thirty five years ago. This widely held consensus belief
at the time was that there were no planets around
any stars period. Thanks to technology today, we now believe
one in five stars has planets around them. Again, we
were so far off of what we now know to
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be reality. As I mentioned before, our galaxy alone is
known to have between one hundred and two hundred billion planets,
with approximately sixty billion of those planets in what they're
calling the habitable zone that could potentially harbor life. Again,
that's using our paradigm for our type of life. So
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this could in fact one day be an even bigger
number as well, and it could be even bigger yet
if you start to think about the existence of other
dimensions or realms. An important note here is the whole
time when science was considering other life in the universe,
it was with the understanding that there were no other
planets in the universe. In twenty seventeen, astronomer Robert Work,
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working in Hawaii, detected a strange object traveling through our
solar system. This turned out to be the first known
interstellar object in our galaxy and was named a Muamua
Avi Lobe. The head of astronomy at Harvard brought this
name to prominence in twenty twenty one when he speculated
that this could in fact be a craft from outside
our Solar System. In twenty twenty, a team of researchers
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led by Jane Graves from Cardiff University in the UK
announced the discovery of a significant source of phosphorin, which
is a biosignature gas that's closely related to life on
Earth in the clouds above Venus. These scientists were shamed
for claiming signs of life on Venus, but now they're
back with even more evidence, and this is now being
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considered today. There are countless examples of scientists who were
discredited and later, often after their death, proven to be correct.
These examples also illustrate how far off our accepted beliefs were.
I mean by factors of millions, sometimes trillion. It's astonishing
how off we were. Perhaps there are in fact different dimensions,
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but we don't know how to see them because we
don't have the technological know how yet to do so.
Perhaps other civilizations are reaching out to us, but we
don't have the technological know how on how to hear
and decipher these messages. Given a little time and technology,
our belief system can easily be turned on its head,
as we've seen. The point of all these examples is
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we may not understand what is happening with all this
phenomena in and around the UFO field, but that doesn't
mean it's not real. It may just mean we don't
have the technology or the knowledge to fully understand them yet,
And maybe we are off by one millimeters somewhere from
receiving the messages from across the universe. We are just
now getting to the point where we are unable to
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tell if someone is AI or a real human being.
If we did come upon an extraterrestrial form of AI,
and we were somehow able to communicate with it, we
would have no way of knowing if it's in fact
a form of artificial intelligence itself or actually an alien
intelligent as we would have no point of reference or
perspective on it. Again, it seems most likely to me
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that this would be the case, as it seems to
make much more sense for our civilization to send out
some form of AI instead of a biological being to
explore the universe. But then again, of course, I'm thinking
with our current way of understanding, it is clearly ignorant
to judge everything by our current state of technology and
our current paradigms. We all have unique world views based
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on what science tells us and what our life experience
has taught us. But I think it's important that we
all remember that this will change in the future, so
we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss other possibilities, as
most assuredly, our technology, our knowledge, and our reference point
will most certainly change. Better to be open minded when
these changes come than locked into a worldview which will
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one day certainly be an archaic one. Speaking of paradigms,
check out the website of Danny Sheehan's organization at the
New Paradigm Institute dot org, as they are doing incredible
work on moving our knowledge in this area forward. When
we return, we're going to take a look at the
latest technologies and how they may affect our understanding of
possible extraterrestrial communication as well as our own human experiences.
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You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Beyond Contact.
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I am Captain Ron, and we've been talking about the
importance of perspective and having an open mind with regard
to ET and UFO issues. We've seen how technology can
open up a whole new world to us, often one
that was always there but we just didn't know how
to person if its presence. And we've talked about how
oftentimes many of these new discoveries were ridiculed or dismissed
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out of hand, yet eventually those outlandish ideas were often
later proven true. You can see how all this applies
nicely to the notion of alien civilizations. We have seen
throughout history that mankind has been caught up in its
own hubris, when in fact it is very often wrong
in even the basic understandings of the universe as we
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now know it to be. There are other technological developments
which could have a huge profound effect on what we
know about the universe and may help in the search
of extraterrestrial life. There's the proposed Habitable World's Observatory, which
would be a large infrared, optical and ultraviolet space telescope.
It would be optimized to search for and image Earth
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sized habitable exoplanets in the habitable zones of their stars
where liquid water can exist. There is also the ELT,
aptly named the Extremely Large Telescope in Chile's Atacama Desert.
This telescope is to be operational in twenty twenty eight
and will be one hundred and thirty feet across, making
it the largest ever built. It will track down earthlike
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planets around other stars and could become the first telescope
to find evidence of life outside of our solar system.
The leap forward with the ELT can lead to a
paradigm shift in our perception of the entire universe, much
like Galileo's telescope did four hundred years ago. Next, I'd
like to talk about us being on the verge of
yet another scientific revolution which is poised to utterly change
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the human experience as we know it. The first part
of this is the onset of artificial intelligence. Given the
digital computing is fundamentally based on mathematics, which is a
universal language that describes patterns, structures, and relationships, these systems
reflect fundamental principles that are likely to be universal. Therefore,
does stand the reason that another advanced civilization may develop
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its own form of digital artificial intelligence, and or perhaps
something even more intriguing. As we are just getting a
handle on understanding this technology, we can already see how
it could vastly improve our space exploration, and as I
mentioned earlier, it seems like a much more logical choice
to send AI out into space to explore the universe
instead of humans. AI doesn't need breaks does it need
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to eat, doesn't get sick, doesn't die, doesn't have to
report to the wife. Nothing. It can continuously learn and
send back data to us. We are starting to see
artificial general intelligence systems emerge that possess general cognitive abilities
that are similar to human intelligence. We are already hearing
about artificial superintelligence, which is a form of AI that
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would surpass even the best human minds in every field,
including creativity, problem solving, and social intelligence. And it's just
going to continue exponentially from there. Elon Musk is currently
building the world's largest supercomputer called XAI. This computer will
have over one hundred thousand of these specialized Navidia superconductors
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to train and run the next version of his gronk AI.
It's just massive. It's being built in a facility that
has over seven hundred and eighty five thousand square feet
and is set to open in twenty twenty five. And
this is not the only one. Others are being designed
to be built right now as well. Not only will
AI greatly enhance our ability to explore the universe, but
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it will give us better technology to understand what's happening
in our skies right here on Earth. It can help
us search for UFOs by analyzing large amounts of data
from various sources such as radar, satellite imagery, radio signals,
and even eyewitness reports. It has the ability to identify
things like planets, planes, drones, and the space station. AI
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algorithms can be trained to detect patterns or anomalies shifting
through just massive amounts of information, making it much easier
for researchers to focus only on the anomalies and the
data and investigate those further. Additionally, there are new artificial
intelligence models that can detect alien life. According to a
study published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National
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Academy of Sciences. They say this algorithm can distinguish between
samples of biological and non biological origin ninety percent of
the time. This method should be able to detect alien
biochemistries as well as things similar to Earth life. It
states that these results mean that we may be able
to find a life form from another planet, another biosphere,
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even if it's very different from the life we know
here on Earth. And if we do find signs of
life elsewhere, we can tell if life on Earth and
other planets derived from a common or a different origin. Obviously,
this is not necessarily intelligent life, but it will verify
confirmed life out there to mainstream science, which is a
massive step on its own. If we do discover some
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new message sent from an alien civilization, we would need
AI systems to decode and figure out the translation of
such messages. Not to mention, if we do actually have
an interaction with another intelligence, we would again need an
AI system in order to be able to communicate with them.
AI did start off as a language model, after all,
and as has been said earlier, not only would we
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send AI up to Explorer space because AI travels better
than a biologic being like humans, but aliens too would
most likely be sending some sort of artificial intelligence as well.
So it is actually quite likely that the first official
alien human communication would really be AI to AI. This
is such a new frontier that we really don't know
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where it's headed. Neither do the top people in this field.
For example, Jeffrey Hinton, considered the godfather of AI, has
expressed concerns about the dangers and fears of artificial intelligence.
Here's a couple quotes that he has said on the subject.
The alarm bell I'm ringing has to do with the
existential threat of them taking control. I used to think
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this was a long way off, but I now think
it's serious and fairly. He also wrote, it's quite conceivable
that humanity is just a passing phase in the evolution
of intelligence.
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Wow.
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Pretty incredible. Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, has been
quoted as saying, I prep for survival, including AI that
attacks us. So clearly, we really don't know what AI
will become or what it's capable of, but it's important
to note how the top people in this field are
clearly concerned. There is yet another development, also by Elon Musk.
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They may have an equally profound effect on the world.
That is his Neurallink company and their brain computer interfaces
or BCIs. These are computer chip brain implants that could
potentially transform various aspects of medicine, technology, and human enhancement
in the future. These BCIs could enable direct brain to
brain communication or allow individuals to communicate with outspoken language,
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creating an entirely new form of interaction. Not to mention
the speed of this community, which will be much faster
than anything we have now. As you can imagine, it
will continuously get faster. Just as computers of ten years
ago are unusuably slow today, the same will happen here.
More importantly, these brain computer interfaces could allow for more
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seamless interaction between humans and artificial intelligence, enabling an almost
cyborg like instant integration with AI systems. These computer interactions
could take place at speeds ten times as fast as
we communicate, and up of what we now take to
communicate with a computer system. They are already saying that
the slow part of our interaction with AI is the
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time it takes for the human being to input to
the computer. Computers can already calculate one quintillion calculations per second.
The human experience as we know it and have known
it to be is about to go through profound changes
over just the next couple generations, and this is already
happening right now. Two people have already had a computer
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chip implant, and two more are getting it imminently. Neuralink
is a form of human augmentation, but this too could
potentially assist in the search for UFOs. It could potentially
enhance human perception by connecting our brains directly to sensors
or devices that can detect signals related to UFO sightings.
This enhanced perception could allow individuals to detect and interpret
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signals or phenomenon related to UFOs that are beyond our
natural senses. It could enable direct access to an analysis
of vast amounts of data related to UFO sightings and experiences.
People could analyze and interpret this data more efficiently, potentially
leading to new insights and discoveries about the UFO phenomenon.
This technology could potentially enhance human capabilities and allow us
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to perhaps gain a better understanding of many of these
different mysterious phenomenon. AI and neuralink have a huge potential
to utterly change the human experience and the way we
both understand and interact with our world. Perhaps these technologies
will lead us to be able to detect and eva
and interpret messages from an alien civilization. Once again, It's
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possible these messages are already coming here, we just haven't
had the technology to hear them yet. These are just
a couple examples, The point being that I believe we
should stay at the very least open minded with regards
to these topics. As history has shown us time and
time again, Eventually our way of thinking will become an archaic,
ignorant way of thinking. Hit us up on social media
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