May 4, 2026 • 15 mins
George Noory and Paranormal Researchers Tammie Chavez and Tawny Lewis discuss their experiences in various haunted locations including going to Gettysburg and communicating with a soldier through a spirit box as well as a fun story about what happens when you taunt spirits. Check out the Hollyweird Paranormal Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Welcome back George Nori along with Tommy Chavez and
Tandy Lewis as we talked about their world of the paranormal.
How many investigations Tammy, do you two go on a year?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I think we're at our tenth one right now for
this year.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I think, I mean it's going to go up to more,
but I mean I would say like ten to twelve
per year.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Have you ever been on one that you felt was
just creepy?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ooh, just creepy.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yes, Actually when we went to I mean the Hnsdale
House was a little creepy.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That one was creepy.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
We went to the Hinsdale House in where was that Salamenca?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Was it Salamenica, New York? Yeah, that was creepy.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
The it was just it felt off in certain locations,
mainly outside. But I think it's a location that is
just terribly misunderstood. But there are some things outside that
really creeped us out, like the woods and the land.
It's a very unique energy.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do you find that buildings, as opposed to places like
beer Land are more haunted?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh, I feel like they're dynamic.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, historical sites, for example, they're more like snapshots.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know, they're preserved moments.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But when you're investigating land like that, I mean there's
layers and layers of history that we don't know about
that I don't think wants us to know about.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And that's what makes it so unique.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Have you ever been to like Gettysburg? Yes? How kind
of energy do you feel there?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know, that was very you know, having to be
very real.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's funny when I went to Gettysburg and people were
warning me that you're.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Gonna feel that you're gonna run into a ghost, You're.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Probably gonna you know, stumble across a union. And to
be honest, it didn't feel like that when I walked
on you know, on that land. When you go into
the battlefields, when you go into the outer parts of
like the town, that's where you really feel it. Because
surprisingly enough, when I go to places like this, I
love talking to locals and that's where you're gonna get
(02:19):
the that's where you're going to get a lot of
the intel. And I was talking to a lot of
the locals in Gettysburg. I'm like, can you tell me
a ghost story? Like, tell me what goes on. They're like,
we don't have much. I mean, I saw a door
close on its own. I'm like, uh, oh okay. And
it's really interesting how for Gettysburg. I believe it is
a haunted place, but I feel that it is a
place that had a lot a lot of really traumatic
(02:43):
history and they kind of capitalize on that obviously. And
I felt that based on what I was told, especially
with the history of how these ghost tours came about
in Gettysburg, it kind of made sense. And then you
bring in the element of the now. That's where I
felt the most energy compared to the haunted Airbnb that
(03:05):
I was in. The land itself bears a lot of trauma,
of course, like Devil's Den and a couple of location bridges.
And when I was there investigating in one of the properties,
it was one of the battlefields. With a couple of
other people, we heard what sounded like gunshots and bombs
going on at like three am in the morning. But
(03:27):
when I would go back to my haunted B and B,
it was just quiet.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was peaceful.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Surprisingly, But I feel that, yeah, Gettysburg has a lot
of haunted history, but I feel like a lot of
that history, our memories, and also like it's residual at
some point you no.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I believe that one of my best spirit communications happened
in Gettysburg, and this was about a year and a
half ago, where there was a soldier that we felt
pop up at the investigation and he was you could
hear him It's day on the spirit box, and I said,
who's the president and he's you could hear him say
President Lincoln. And I said, I feel like you're hurt.
(04:08):
I feel like your right arm is hurt. Are you okay?
And he says, I fell on it and I said,
well did you You just fell on it? He's like,
and I got shot and this is clear responses. And
then after about twenty minutes he says, okay, I have
to go, I have to report, and he just left
and the communication stopped. And to this day I hold
(04:29):
that one is one of the best spirit communications. Whereas
I felt him intuitively, but as well as on the
spear box and the tools. He was very, very active,
and so I had a good experience. I was near
the battlefield exactly wherefield where I was like, okay, this
is different, but yeah, it's I love Gettysburg. I wish
I had to stay longer because I feel like there
(04:50):
has so much potential, But I was able.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
To do that. It was like an all night er
investigation in that area.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Do you have the voice on tape?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I do not. I did not record it, and I
regret that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The only witness I have, my sister, happened to be
with me as well as one of the lead investigators
in the Gettysburg area, and so I remember that happening,
but no, I wish I had recorded it. But God,
that was that was incredible. He was just so and
I could feel him. He was just so like, oh,
I'm here, Hello, this is I could feel his emotion.
He was willing to talk. One of the pieces of
(05:25):
equipment went off and we were like, oh my god.
And you can hear him say I did that. I
did that to show you that I'm here. And so
I haven't talked about it in a long time, but
I had to bring them up when you talked about
Gettysburg because it still makes me smile to this day.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
They're very smart.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, when you go into the fields, it's like that's
where you get the most, the most answers and intelligent
responses from what I noticed too.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, is there much pain there? Do you feel pain
coming from them?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
At certain points, like there was a time where we
were just sitting in the field it was quiet, and
then around like it was two or three, you just
felt you just felt this wave of emotion. I don't
know how to explain it, but it all happened in unison.
I was with five or six other people and we
just felt a wave of dread and it just became very,
(06:18):
very very dismal at that point for all of us,
and we all felt it. That's the shared experience when
I'm in an investigation and a charged location like that,
That's what I'm looking for too, is that shared unique experience.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
They are also a sense of urgency.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It feels like a lot of them don't realize that
they have passed, and so when I'm there, it's like
I am still at war. I am focused, kind of
like the gentleman that can communicated with me where he's like, oh,
I have to go, I have to report. I was like, okay,
he still thinks that, you know, he's fighting. He doesn't
realize that he's passed. Where I'm like, what's wrong with
your arm?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Oh? I heard it. Oh, I fell on it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And so that's what I feel. It's that sense of urgency.
I have to get this past done. I'm very very focus.
I want to win. That's the feeling that I got
when I was there last time.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Have either one of you been at the exorcism?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, I've never been a part of an exorcism.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I know the people who have been a part of
actual exorcisms through certain chapters of the church, and it's
it's scary, like some of the things that they've told
me that they experience.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's intense.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Now what's going on at the Herotg Square Museum in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That place is really interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
If you want to go into like actual history, if
you want to be taken back in time, that is
a really good place to go. So Heritage Square Museum
is a little like pocket outside of the city and
it is literally it's a little town of rescued Victorian
homes and there's about, I want to say, probably like
(07:56):
six or seven of them. They've all been rescued in
and around Laws Angeles, even outside of Los Angeles that
were set to be demolished, and the Historical Society and
the city have taken great efforts to save them and
preserve them and put them in this plot of land,
and it's pretty much like a little town when you
(08:16):
walk in. It's just rows of these houses. And these
houses also carry a ton of antique pieces. And we
believe that it's not only the houses that carry energy,
but it's also the items inside that create a lot
of the experiences and hauntings in this location.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Has anybody ever been hurt on any of your investigations.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
No, but recently we were a part we led an
investigation at the Wittier Museum in Whittier, California. It's a
historical museum, and one girl had to step out with
her mom because she was really really scared. She felt
I don't know, Tommy, was it like just too much
for her the energy there.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think it was a few things. I think it
was too much.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I think she started to also feel sick, and she
stepped out and never came.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Back, which rarely, rarely happened.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I don't know if that's even never happened in terms
of any of our events and so, but otherwise, no
one has been heard. I mean I've seen it, you know,
as an investigator doing this for so long. Many many
years ago, I did an event with another team at
a place in Lake Arrowhead and someone was taunting the spirits.
He was making fun of the space and the spirits
(09:33):
that were there, and sure enough he started screaming. I
looked down and he was on the floor with a
mark on his stomach. And I'm not as an investigator,
I'm not wanting to succeee scratches or that's not something
I see all the time, just being very very transparent,
but there was clearly a mark on that man's stomach.
But I wasn't shocked because of his behavior and his
(09:54):
unprofessionalism throughout the night. And so in my career, I
brought that one up because that's the one that stands
out the most. But that's the only time someone's ever
really been hurt. And Tammy wasn't even involved in that one, So.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Oh, go right ahead, sorry, Jersey.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Has anybody ever reported that they got attached by a
spirit that it came home with them.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I haven't received anything like that from any of our
our guests that I've intended. Usually what we do we
like to set intention before and even after. I have
a mixture of holy water Gascadia, which has crushed eggshells
and Florida water, and I spray it on a lot
of the participants, including myself and Tawny. Tony ends it
(10:35):
with a prayer, and you know, it seems like it
has been working out for all of us and as well.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, yeah, I would say, and I tell everyone this
that's interested or are scared. I always say a prayer
before I step foot onto a property, before I get
anywhere near it, just and it could be any prayer,
you know. I don't have to sit here and say,
please say it just like this. No, whatever you're feeling,
you know intuitively you want to say, then go and
(11:03):
do the investigation before it's over. I usually have all
the guests say thank you goodbye to just make it
clear that the communication is done, that there is no
more talking.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And then again before I leave the property, I say
a prayer with myself and our Tammy, just to close
it out. And yeah, neither one of us and none
of our guests so far have had any issues or
someone's like something's here or something's foun It just hasn't happened.
And I know it sounds very simple and cliche. Where
I'm just say a prayer, but it's worth you know.
And it's also about what is your intention or is
(11:38):
your intention to do investigations because you want to be spooped,
because you want to be scared, because you want to
see a demon, you want to be slapped. Unfortunately, there
are a lot of people that want to experience that.
And guess what, that's your intention, So you probably will
experience that. And so my intention is I love to
learn about the history and the person and the land
(11:58):
and the property. It's all and light and so and
it's stuck.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I've stuck with that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And so, No, we have not had any issues since
we've been doing this this work.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Have you ever had a priest come along with you?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
No, No, we'd never had a priest come along. I
work with priests at my job. I work at a university,
a Jesuit university here, so I have like connections to
quite a few just in case, but never had the
need to to have one on.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
On, you know, on an investigation with us.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I think because of all of a lot of the
locations that we do investigate don't have that evil, demonic
haunting that we see a lot on a lot of shows,
and that is not what we're there to do. We're
pretty much there to see, you know, if there is
something there and why it's there.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Tell me. I went to a Jesuit college in Detroit,
the University of Detroit many years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I know, I read your background of their Yeah, they do.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I went to Loyal University and I was raised Catholic,
and you know that has definitely, like my beliefs in
what I follow have definitely changed. You know, I do
believe in a higher being. I believe in God, and
I'm very much open to all religions and their beliefs.
I've been currently even studying Santharia and how that parallels
(13:24):
with Catholicism so well. And I use a lot of
their practices in my investigations. And you know, especially when
it comes to those who've lost a loved one who
I've run into a lot of people, and I know
Tawny can agree with this. A lot of people who
join our investigations, they're still in somewhat bereavement, yeah, and
(13:45):
they have lost a loved one, whether it's been several
years ago or just even several weeks ago. And you know,
knowing what I know now, just from you know, learning
about different religions and how we can heal with certain
beliefs and also certain practices is very cathartic to you know,
share that with others who are going through that loss too.
(14:06):
And I think that's why I love doing what I do,
is to not be there just to play off emotions,
and that's something that we announce in our investigations, but
also to help people navigate through this unknown and through
their own grief and understanding what happens to us after
we pass.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You're totally convinced that there's something on the other side.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yes, is there survival of consciousness that consistently persists after
we cross this mortal coil? I don't know, you know, I,
like I've mentioned before, I feel like there is something there.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I don't think it wants us to know fully what
is there.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I think that's the mystery that keeps us going and
asking those questions. I feel like if we have the answers,
it's lost as luster, you know, like what is it
then that we're living for?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
In a way, you know, now we know it's like, Okay,
the thrill is gone.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And I guess you believe that too. Tunny I definitely do,
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Welcome back George Nori along with Tommy Chavez and
Tandy Lewis as we talked about their world of the paranormal.
How many investigations Tammy, do you two go on a year?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I think we're at our tenth one right now for
this year.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I think, I mean it's going to go up to more,
but I mean I would say like ten to twelve
per year.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Have you ever been on one that you felt was
just creepy?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ooh, just creepy.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yes, Actually when we went to I mean the Hnsdale
House was a little creepy.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That one was creepy.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
We went to the Hinsdale House in where was that Salamenca?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Was it Salamenica, New York? Yeah, that was creepy.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
The it was just it felt off in certain locations,
mainly outside. But I think it's a location that is
just terribly misunderstood. But there are some things outside that
really creeped us out, like the woods and the land.
It's a very unique energy.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do you find that buildings, as opposed to places like
beer Land are more haunted?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh, I feel like they're dynamic.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, historical sites, for example, they're more like snapshots.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know, they're preserved moments.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But when you're investigating land like that, I mean there's
layers and layers of history that we don't know about
that I don't think wants us to know about.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And that's what makes it so unique.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Have you ever been to like Gettysburg? Yes? How kind
of energy do you feel there?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know, that was very you know, having to be
very real.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's funny when I went to Gettysburg and people were
warning me that you're.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Gonna feel that you're gonna run into a ghost, You're.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Probably gonna you know, stumble across a union. And to
be honest, it didn't feel like that when I walked
on you know, on that land. When you go into
the battlefields, when you go into the outer parts of
like the town, that's where you really feel it. Because
surprisingly enough, when I go to places like this, I
love talking to locals and that's where you're gonna get
(02:19):
the that's where you're going to get a lot of
the intel. And I was talking to a lot of
the locals in Gettysburg. I'm like, can you tell me
a ghost story? Like, tell me what goes on. They're like,
we don't have much. I mean, I saw a door
close on its own. I'm like, uh, oh okay. And
it's really interesting how for Gettysburg. I believe it is
a haunted place, but I feel that it is a
place that had a lot a lot of really traumatic
(02:43):
history and they kind of capitalize on that obviously. And
I felt that based on what I was told, especially
with the history of how these ghost tours came about
in Gettysburg, it kind of made sense. And then you
bring in the element of the now. That's where I
felt the most energy compared to the haunted Airbnb that
(03:05):
I was in. The land itself bears a lot of trauma,
of course, like Devil's Den and a couple of location bridges.
And when I was there investigating in one of the properties,
it was one of the battlefields. With a couple of
other people, we heard what sounded like gunshots and bombs
going on at like three am in the morning. But
(03:27):
when I would go back to my haunted B and B,
it was just quiet.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was peaceful.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Surprisingly, But I feel that, yeah, Gettysburg has a lot
of haunted history, but I feel like a lot of
that history, our memories, and also like it's residual at
some point you no.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I believe that one of my best spirit communications happened
in Gettysburg, and this was about a year and a
half ago, where there was a soldier that we felt
pop up at the investigation and he was you could
hear him It's day on the spirit box, and I said,
who's the president and he's you could hear him say
President Lincoln. And I said, I feel like you're hurt.
(04:08):
I feel like your right arm is hurt. Are you okay?
And he says, I fell on it and I said,
well did you You just fell on it? He's like,
and I got shot and this is clear responses. And
then after about twenty minutes he says, okay, I have
to go, I have to report, and he just left
and the communication stopped. And to this day I hold
(04:29):
that one is one of the best spirit communications. Whereas
I felt him intuitively, but as well as on the
spear box and the tools. He was very, very active,
and so I had a good experience. I was near
the battlefield exactly wherefield where I was like, okay, this
is different, but yeah, it's I love Gettysburg. I wish
I had to stay longer because I feel like there
(04:50):
has so much potential, But I was able.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
To do that. It was like an all night er
investigation in that area.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Do you have the voice on tape?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I do not. I did not record it, and I
regret that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The only witness I have, my sister, happened to be
with me as well as one of the lead investigators
in the Gettysburg area, and so I remember that happening,
but no, I wish I had recorded it. But God,
that was that was incredible. He was just so and
I could feel him. He was just so like, oh,
I'm here, Hello, this is I could feel his emotion.
He was willing to talk. One of the pieces of
(05:25):
equipment went off and we were like, oh my god.
And you can hear him say I did that. I
did that to show you that I'm here. And so
I haven't talked about it in a long time, but
I had to bring them up when you talked about
Gettysburg because it still makes me smile to this day.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
They're very smart.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, when you go into the fields, it's like that's
where you get the most, the most answers and intelligent
responses from what I noticed too.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, is there much pain there? Do you feel pain
coming from them?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
At certain points, like there was a time where we
were just sitting in the field it was quiet, and
then around like it was two or three, you just
felt you just felt this wave of emotion. I don't
know how to explain it, but it all happened in unison.
I was with five or six other people and we
just felt a wave of dread and it just became very,
(06:18):
very very dismal at that point for all of us,
and we all felt it. That's the shared experience when
I'm in an investigation and a charged location like that,
That's what I'm looking for too, is that shared unique experience.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
They are also a sense of urgency.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It feels like a lot of them don't realize that
they have passed, and so when I'm there, it's like
I am still at war. I am focused, kind of
like the gentleman that can communicated with me where he's like, oh,
I have to go, I have to report. I was like, okay,
he still thinks that, you know, he's fighting. He doesn't
realize that he's passed. Where I'm like, what's wrong with
your arm?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Oh? I heard it. Oh, I fell on it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And so that's what I feel. It's that sense of urgency.
I have to get this past done. I'm very very focus.
I want to win. That's the feeling that I got
when I was there last time.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Have either one of you been at the exorcism?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, I've never been a part of an exorcism.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I know the people who have been a part of
actual exorcisms through certain chapters of the church, and it's
it's scary, like some of the things that they've told
me that they experience.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's intense.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Now what's going on at the Herotg Square Museum in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That place is really interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
If you want to go into like actual history, if
you want to be taken back in time, that is
a really good place to go. So Heritage Square Museum
is a little like pocket outside of the city and
it is literally it's a little town of rescued Victorian
homes and there's about, I want to say, probably like
(07:56):
six or seven of them. They've all been rescued in
and around Laws Angeles, even outside of Los Angeles that
were set to be demolished, and the Historical Society and
the city have taken great efforts to save them and
preserve them and put them in this plot of land,
and it's pretty much like a little town when you
(08:16):
walk in. It's just rows of these houses. And these
houses also carry a ton of antique pieces. And we
believe that it's not only the houses that carry energy,
but it's also the items inside that create a lot
of the experiences and hauntings in this location.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Has anybody ever been hurt on any of your investigations.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
No, but recently we were a part we led an
investigation at the Wittier Museum in Whittier, California. It's a
historical museum, and one girl had to step out with
her mom because she was really really scared. She felt
I don't know, Tommy, was it like just too much
for her the energy there.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think it was a few things. I think it
was too much.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I think she started to also feel sick, and she
stepped out and never came.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Back, which rarely, rarely happened.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I don't know if that's even never happened in terms
of any of our events and so, but otherwise, no
one has been heard. I mean I've seen it, you know,
as an investigator doing this for so long. Many many
years ago, I did an event with another team at
a place in Lake Arrowhead and someone was taunting the spirits.
He was making fun of the space and the spirits
(09:33):
that were there, and sure enough he started screaming. I
looked down and he was on the floor with a
mark on his stomach. And I'm not as an investigator,
I'm not wanting to succeee scratches or that's not something
I see all the time, just being very very transparent,
but there was clearly a mark on that man's stomach.
But I wasn't shocked because of his behavior and his
(09:54):
unprofessionalism throughout the night. And so in my career, I
brought that one up because that's the one that stands
out the most. But that's the only time someone's ever
really been hurt. And Tammy wasn't even involved in that one, So.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Oh, go right ahead, sorry, Jersey.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Has anybody ever reported that they got attached by a
spirit that it came home with them.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I haven't received anything like that from any of our
our guests that I've intended. Usually what we do we
like to set intention before and even after. I have
a mixture of holy water Gascadia, which has crushed eggshells
and Florida water, and I spray it on a lot
of the participants, including myself and Tawny. Tony ends it
(10:35):
with a prayer, and you know, it seems like it
has been working out for all of us and as well.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, yeah, I would say, and I tell everyone this
that's interested or are scared. I always say a prayer
before I step foot onto a property, before I get
anywhere near it, just and it could be any prayer,
you know. I don't have to sit here and say,
please say it just like this. No, whatever you're feeling,
you know intuitively you want to say, then go and
(11:03):
do the investigation before it's over. I usually have all
the guests say thank you goodbye to just make it
clear that the communication is done, that there is no
more talking.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And then again before I leave the property, I say
a prayer with myself and our Tammy, just to close
it out. And yeah, neither one of us and none
of our guests so far have had any issues or
someone's like something's here or something's foun It just hasn't happened.
And I know it sounds very simple and cliche. Where
I'm just say a prayer, but it's worth you know.
And it's also about what is your intention or is
(11:38):
your intention to do investigations because you want to be spooped,
because you want to be scared, because you want to
see a demon, you want to be slapped. Unfortunately, there
are a lot of people that want to experience that.
And guess what, that's your intention, So you probably will
experience that. And so my intention is I love to
learn about the history and the person and the land
(11:58):
and the property. It's all and light and so and
it's stuck.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I've stuck with that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And so, No, we have not had any issues since
we've been doing this this work.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Have you ever had a priest come along with you?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
No, No, we'd never had a priest come along. I
work with priests at my job. I work at a university,
a Jesuit university here, so I have like connections to
quite a few just in case, but never had the
need to to have one on.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
On, you know, on an investigation with us.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I think because of all of a lot of the
locations that we do investigate don't have that evil, demonic
haunting that we see a lot on a lot of shows,
and that is not what we're there to do. We're
pretty much there to see, you know, if there is
something there and why it's there.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Tell me. I went to a Jesuit college in Detroit,
the University of Detroit many years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I know, I read your background of their Yeah, they do.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I went to Loyal University and I was raised Catholic,
and you know that has definitely, like my beliefs in
what I follow have definitely changed. You know, I do
believe in a higher being. I believe in God, and
I'm very much open to all religions and their beliefs.
I've been currently even studying Santharia and how that parallels
(13:24):
with Catholicism so well. And I use a lot of
their practices in my investigations. And you know, especially when
it comes to those who've lost a loved one who
I've run into a lot of people, and I know
Tawny can agree with this. A lot of people who
join our investigations, they're still in somewhat bereavement, yeah, and
(13:45):
they have lost a loved one, whether it's been several
years ago or just even several weeks ago. And you know,
knowing what I know now, just from you know, learning
about different religions and how we can heal with certain
beliefs and also certain practices is very cathartic to you know,
share that with others who are going through that loss too.
(14:06):
And I think that's why I love doing what I do,
is to not be there just to play off emotions,
and that's something that we announce in our investigations, but
also to help people navigate through this unknown and through
their own grief and understanding what happens to us after
we pass.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You're totally convinced that there's something on the other side.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yes, is there survival of consciousness that consistently persists after
we cross this mortal coil? I don't know, you know, I,
like I've mentioned before, I feel like there is something there.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I don't think it wants us to know fully what
is there.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I think that's the mystery that keeps us going and
asking those questions. I feel like if we have the answers,
it's lost as luster, you know, like what is it
then that we're living for?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
In a way, you know, now we know it's like, Okay,
the thrill is gone.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And I guess you believe that too. Tunny I definitely do,
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