May 13, 2026 • 20 mins
George Noory and author Sandra Champlain discuss evidence of life after death, what happens to people who die in their sleep, and recount stories of deathbed visions of deceased loved ones coming to escort people to the afterlife and a race car driver who lost his fear of death following an out of body experience during a crash.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Sanders Champlain with us, author of the international bestseller We
Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after death. She's
also the host of the Shades of the Afterlife iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast Day and Paranormal Podcast Network, and
along with her We Don't Die YouTube channel, Sandra has
more than eight hundred unique episodes about the evidence of
(00:26):
the afterlife. And here she is back on Coast to Coast,
Miss Champlain, How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, George, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you,
I'm great.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What was it that got you fascinated by the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I didn't want to be fascinated by the afterlife.
I developed a huge fear of dying back in the
mid nineties that wouldn't go away. So it had me
very secretly just start looking, is there any evidence out
there that can calm my fears? And I studied major
world religions and a little bit of this, A little
(01:03):
bit of that ended up taking some incredible courses, including
a medium course and out of my own brain. I
was thinking I was just using my imagination, but I
was giving people evidence about their loved ones, exact things, names,
what they look like. And even though I didn't go
on to be a medium, it just kind of cracked
(01:25):
opened the door what else is there? And so it
just led me on this road of adventure.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Were you skeptical in the beginning, kind of a non believer?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was a non believer, absolutely. I wasn't quite an atheist.
I always thought there must be something because if we're here,
you know, it just makes sense that there's some kind
of a divine something that put it all together. But
I guess i'd say I was agnostic about what's really
out there. But I was kind of a nasty skeptic,
(01:57):
if I can say that. George, my parents great people,
great people. Dad's passed. In fact, my dad passed sixteen
years ago yesterday, So he's quite the big reason that
I have such a loud voice for the afterlife. I
had told him some of the things that I believed
in just before he passed, and he made me promise
(02:18):
that I tell as many people as possible that I
write a book, and so I'm grateful that I'm here.
But back to the skepticism. We grew up like you
have to see it to believe it. And there was
a psychic in a small town I grew up in
who had this prediction that the maid of the missed
boats that's beyond under the Niagara Falls, it would capsize
(02:41):
with a boatload of deaf children. Right, terrible prediction. Never happened,
And that was just one of those things kids, You've
got to see it to believe it. That stuff isn't real.
So I would go to a bookstore, I would go
into the New age section. I'd see people reading all
these spiritual things, and I really I felt sorry for them,
(03:01):
like they need to get a life because there's no
evidence of that stuff. So for me to be the
one sharing this message, I think I'm the perfect messenger
because I know just what a hardcore skeptic is. And
that's that was me.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And if a skeptic came your way today or maybe
calls you next hour on the program, what would you
tell them in terms of evidence that the afterlife exists.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, that's a good question. Now there's two kinds of skeptics, George.
There's an open minded skeptic, which I believe that would
be kind of The person who's interested maybe has a
fear of dying, or they've lost a loved one, and
so I could share. But there's also those closed minded
skeptics that there's nothing you can say that will have
(03:47):
me believe that life after death is real. So I
don't even touch those kind of skeptics. And I advise
people if people are closed minded, it's not even worth
talking to them. I know someday people, all people will
come to the end of their life or maybe have
a loved one pass and start looking for those answers.
But if they're closed minded, there's nothing we can do
(04:08):
to open it. But there's worlds of evidence. And I'm
so grateful to you and Tom for having shades of
the afterlife because some of my favorite reasons to believe.
While people, yes, they can go to mediums and things
like that, there's great stories with near death experiences, not
just all near death experiences, but the verified ones, the
(04:30):
ones where there's no way people can see things because
their eyes are closed and they have flatlined or blind
people that I've never seen before can see. There's wonderful
stories of terminal lucidity people that are virtually brain dead
or have severe Alzheimer's dementia, all of a sudden, they
(04:50):
regain full brain capacity and they can talk to their
loved ones, and they're actually seeing people that are as
real as you and I showing up at their bedside.
And these are deceased people. These are their parents and
grandparents and pets looking young and healthy. Again, there's verifiable
evidence there. There's things like induced after death communication therapy,
(05:16):
there's EVPs, electronic voice phenomena. There's a whole world and
I am so excited that I get to explore them
and share them because once people really start I don't
want to say doing the work, but following the passion.
If there's something there that they're interested in, a whole
world opens up. And there's plenty of scientists and doctors
(05:38):
that are studying it. But I think our humanness, our
skeptical side, which it's good to be skeptic, because you
know there are things out there that we shouldn't believe.
But when we're open, when we have that openness and
we start to study this, the stories are endless of
the things people experience and the verifiable information. And so
(06:00):
that's the kind of stuff I love.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What would you say, SANDRAI if you had to pick
one form of evidence, just one to convince somebody about
the afterlife, what would that be?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Just one?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't want to pick just one, but I would
go with my personal favorite because I'm getting older. You know,
I just turned sixty.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I know I'm not old, but you know that's time.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Life goes on time. I know, I know it's not old.
As a kid, I thought it was old, But it's
the deathbed visions right now that really comfort me. Absolutely,
no one dies alone. The great hospice doctor Christopher Kerr,
(06:47):
he wrote a book called Death Is But a Dream
and this documentary out about him, and he studied either
sixteen hundred or seventeen hundred people in hospice in their
final weeks, months, days, et cetera. And people dream, and
sometimes these dreams they have their eyes wide open and
they see in the room people like I said, just
(07:08):
like you and I A live young and right there
saying we're taking you home, We're going on a trip.
Pack your bags. And sometimes they see people that they
didn't even know were deceased. Some people have loved ones
who pass and they themselves are near the end of
(07:29):
their life and they're loved ones don't want to say, hey,
by the way, your brother just died. But these people
look and they're like, hey, what's Bob doing here? So
no one dies alone. Even pets show up. And it's
so comforting to me to hear these stories. And I've
got an episode coming up to this coming Friday or
(07:50):
next Friday. But it's children, children who have will terminal lucidity,
like I mentioned, when the brain is pretty much gone
and people are awake, can alert and they can see
into the afterlife. But little kids who don't know anything
about death right and they're describing their grandparents who they
(08:10):
never met, or a dog their mom or dad had
or that they had, and they're talking to them. They're
petting the dogs for or cats for. They see them.
They're alive, they're well, and they're so comforting to me,
and I think they will be to all of us
when it's our time, that no one dies alone. Our
loved ones are there to take us home.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And I know you're going to want them after hearing this.
This is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine
years old now, was suffering with not just one or
two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts
all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability
to really function.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
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Speaker 4 (09:30):
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Speaker 5 (09:32):
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Speaker 2 (10:02):
One of the reasons I have come up with for
myself in believing in the afterlife is the fact that
nobody can explain to me life itself. Let's take God
out of the picture just for a moment, if we can.
But I cannot get one scientist on the air, Sandra,
to explain to me the big bang, how the universe started,
(10:24):
what it started from, what nothing was. Nobody can tell me, and.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So one can.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And so that that alone tells me that if the
afterlife is real, we really all don't understand it that much.
But it's out there. What do you think of that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I don't think we're going to even understand it once
we get there, just like we don't understand everything that's
happening on planet Earth. But I say, if we can
look at our lives right now as a miracle that
can't be explained. Remember the film What the bleep Do
We know, when we get down to the quantum level
of things, all we are is invisible vibrating energy. So
(11:09):
I love that. I say life is an illusion. I
mean it's a pretty darn good one. But if all
we are is invisible vibrating energy, and if you think
of it, two or more forms of energy can be
at the same place at the same time. So you
and I are surrounded by so many wireless radio signals
(11:31):
and GPS and all kinds of things. I one hundred
percent believe that the afterlife are at We're actually part
of their world instead of it being somewhere beyond the clouds.
But it's just a different energy wavelength that coexists where
we do. And again, you can't explain life here. We
(11:56):
are on this rock called planet Earth, hurling around an
ever expanding universe. When we start looking from that perspective, yeah,
of course the after life can be real. Right, Our
cell phones can pick up all the information at all,
but lots of information in the world. Why can't our
(12:16):
human minds connect with something in the invisible space? It's
all possible.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
What if none of this is real, that it's just
someonless Some people say a matrix something digitally created by
the creator. What if none of this is real?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, what if it is? Though, we can play the
what if game? Sure, Cow's come home. The worst case scenario, George,
is we close our eyes and it's like we.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Go to sleep, right, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's it. But there's so much evidence for not that,
so much evidence. And I love talking about children and
the fact that they've never been taught about near death
experiences and so it's not just terminal lucidity where they
see loved ones just before they pass. But doctor Melvin
(13:12):
Morse has done so much work on near death experiences
with children, studying these incredible stories.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
One little girl.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Got revived, and she says, dying is fun, and well,
what makes it fun? Elizabeth was there? And who's Elizabeth?
Some kind of a guide or an angel? And one
boy said he was in this giant noodle. That's the
best way he could describe the tunnel. But it wasn't
quite a noodle because it was filled with rainbows. Another
(13:44):
little girl said, I saw all these doctors and they
said doctors. You saw doctors, Well, they were fourteen feet
tall and they had light bulbs inside. So she saw
these angelic beings that were glowing, and kids had drawn pictures,
and the story bories are like adults near death experiences.
They're comforted, they see relatives that they didn't know, they're
(14:08):
able to describe again pets.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So I'm going with.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's all real and our loved ones are very much
a part of our life, and we don't die.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
When you go to sleep, aside from dreaming, it's almost
like you've died. Most people when they go to bed
don't even remember when their moment they were awake before
they fall asleep. I don't. But if you don't dream
and simply fall asleep, is it like you're dead? And
(14:40):
then you wake up and life is there again. But
I mean, when you fall asleep, is it like dying?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I say, yeah, it is in fact. Just a couple
episodes ago, there were two hospice hospice doctor and hospice
nurse talking about the dying process and even though it
seems scary and certainly we don't want anybody in pain,
but the natural dying experience, everything starts slowing down. You're
(15:11):
not hungry, you're not thirsty, you sleep a lot, and
then you just have that final breath out and it's
very very peaceful, and so yeah, like falling asleep, you're
just comfree and warm. But the big difference is you
open your eyes up and there you loved ones headed past,
(15:33):
and they say, it's a world quite like Planet Earth
as far as the beauty and nature, those kind of things,
even buildings and things there. So it's not an insult
to our intellect, you know, but there's our loved ones.
And I like to imagine that it's like you're crossing
a finish line in a marathon. You get a big
standing ovation for the job you did.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
We're talking with Santor Champlain, host of the Shades of
the Afterlife on the Paranormal Podcast Network, which of course
you can listen to by going to Coast tocoastam dot
com or iHeartRadio and just put in the Paranormal Podcast
Network and Coast to Coast AM and it'll pop up.
Kind of take us through a scenario. Paint us a picture.
(16:17):
A person goes to sleep and physically dies in their sleep.
What happens to that person? Explain what happens.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'll do my very best. And this information comes through
different sorts of mediums and near death experiences, etc. People
first of all, have their loved ones, guides, angels, whatever
you wish to call them, that are right there to
greet them, to let them know they're not alone, like
(16:50):
there's a change coming, right, So we're together and they
open their eyes and yes, they're surrounded by loved ones.
If you're somebody who had lots of of pats, there
right there, your parents, grandparents' ancestors are right there.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do we know we're dead?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I don't think we might right away. You might say like, hey, folks,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Or I'm having a dream or something.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, well it's more real than the dream, that's the thing.
From what I've been told, there was a many people know.
Some people don't know that. My career has been being
a chef and I cooked for race car teams. That
was my employment before old COVID hit planet Earth. But
one of the race car drivers, who was a champion
(17:42):
race car driver, he told me that he had had
a near death experience due to a car accident, and
he floated above his body and there was no pain.
He said he was more alive than he feels here
on Earth. He said his grandmother and grandfather were there
(18:03):
to greet him, and he said they were incredibly real,
and it made this life seem like it was just
the dream. And he was given the opportunity to go
with them, which seemed very appealing. But he also looked
back on his body, which was in the hospital and
his mom and dad and brother were praying there, and
(18:25):
he said, no, I've got to go back. He was
given the choice and he came back, but he said
it was so real that it made this life seem
like it was just the dream. So it's even more
real than what we're experiencing right now. And for this gentleman,
because that took away his fear of dying, it also
took away his fear of living. So on the racetrack,
(18:48):
he put his foot on that paddle a little faster
than others and break at the last minute, and he
went on to win championships. So I don't want everybody
to have a near death experience, but if we can
get that same result by hearing enough of these stories,
then we can get our money's worth out of life,
because I think life has a purpose. But when we
cross over, we can continue to learn to explore. They
(19:12):
talk about the Kashik Records or the Halls of learning.
We can go and have all these virtual experiences. If
you want to go back to I don't know, the
eighteen hundreds and explore something, Boom there you are. If
you want to go to the pyramids in Egypt, Boom,
there you are. Back in the day, and you can
(19:35):
have a house, you can live, you can work, you
can do all kinds of great things.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I say that the afterlife doesn't have any bugs though, right,
No bugs, no mosquitoes, but a world very much like this.
And I think our world was designed from their world.
I've got a bunch of bird feeders out George, and
some of the birds are incredibly colored in like different
and paint.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know, different.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Just I'm thinking there has to be some divine intelligence
and I imagine a bunch of kids with coloring books
creating all these different animals like zebras and giraffes and things,
and then oooh, and here we have them on planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Sanders Champlain with us, author of the international bestseller We
Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after death. She's
also the host of the Shades of the Afterlife iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast Day and Paranormal Podcast Network, and
along with her We Don't Die YouTube channel, Sandra has
more than eight hundred unique episodes about the evidence of
(00:26):
the afterlife. And here she is back on Coast to Coast,
Miss Champlain, How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, George, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you,
I'm great.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What was it that got you fascinated by the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I didn't want to be fascinated by the afterlife.
I developed a huge fear of dying back in the
mid nineties that wouldn't go away. So it had me
very secretly just start looking, is there any evidence out
there that can calm my fears? And I studied major
world religions and a little bit of this, A little
(01:03):
bit of that ended up taking some incredible courses, including
a medium course and out of my own brain. I
was thinking I was just using my imagination, but I
was giving people evidence about their loved ones, exact things, names,
what they look like. And even though I didn't go
on to be a medium, it just kind of cracked
(01:25):
opened the door what else is there? And so it
just led me on this road of adventure.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Were you skeptical in the beginning, kind of a non believer?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was a non believer, absolutely. I wasn't quite an atheist.
I always thought there must be something because if we're here,
you know, it just makes sense that there's some kind
of a divine something that put it all together. But
I guess i'd say I was agnostic about what's really
out there. But I was kind of a nasty skeptic,
(01:57):
if I can say that. George, my parents great people,
great people. Dad's passed. In fact, my dad passed sixteen
years ago yesterday, So he's quite the big reason that
I have such a loud voice for the afterlife. I
had told him some of the things that I believed
in just before he passed, and he made me promise
(02:18):
that I tell as many people as possible that I
write a book, and so I'm grateful that I'm here.
But back to the skepticism. We grew up like you
have to see it to believe it. And there was
a psychic in a small town I grew up in
who had this prediction that the maid of the missed
boats that's beyond under the Niagara Falls, it would capsize
(02:41):
with a boatload of deaf children. Right, terrible prediction. Never happened,
And that was just one of those things kids, You've
got to see it to believe it. That stuff isn't real.
So I would go to a bookstore, I would go
into the New age section. I'd see people reading all
these spiritual things, and I really I felt sorry for them,
(03:01):
like they need to get a life because there's no
evidence of that stuff. So for me to be the
one sharing this message, I think I'm the perfect messenger
because I know just what a hardcore skeptic is. And
that's that was me.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And if a skeptic came your way today or maybe
calls you next hour on the program, what would you
tell them in terms of evidence that the afterlife exists.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, that's a good question. Now there's two kinds of skeptics, George.
There's an open minded skeptic, which I believe that would
be kind of The person who's interested maybe has a
fear of dying, or they've lost a loved one, and
so I could share. But there's also those closed minded
skeptics that there's nothing you can say that will have
(03:47):
me believe that life after death is real. So I
don't even touch those kind of skeptics. And I advise
people if people are closed minded, it's not even worth
talking to them. I know someday people, all people will
come to the end of their life or maybe have
a loved one pass and start looking for those answers.
But if they're closed minded, there's nothing we can do
(04:08):
to open it. But there's worlds of evidence. And I'm
so grateful to you and Tom for having shades of
the afterlife because some of my favorite reasons to believe.
While people, yes, they can go to mediums and things
like that, there's great stories with near death experiences, not
just all near death experiences, but the verified ones, the
(04:30):
ones where there's no way people can see things because
their eyes are closed and they have flatlined or blind
people that I've never seen before can see. There's wonderful
stories of terminal lucidity people that are virtually brain dead
or have severe Alzheimer's dementia, all of a sudden, they
(04:50):
regain full brain capacity and they can talk to their
loved ones, and they're actually seeing people that are as
real as you and I showing up at their bedside.
And these are deceased people. These are their parents and
grandparents and pets looking young and healthy. Again, there's verifiable
evidence there. There's things like induced after death communication therapy,
(05:16):
there's EVPs, electronic voice phenomena. There's a whole world and
I am so excited that I get to explore them
and share them because once people really start I don't
want to say doing the work, but following the passion.
If there's something there that they're interested in, a whole
world opens up. And there's plenty of scientists and doctors
(05:38):
that are studying it. But I think our humanness, our
skeptical side, which it's good to be skeptic, because you
know there are things out there that we shouldn't believe.
But when we're open, when we have that openness and
we start to study this, the stories are endless of
the things people experience and the verifiable information. And so
(06:00):
that's the kind of stuff I love.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What would you say, SANDRAI if you had to pick
one form of evidence, just one to convince somebody about
the afterlife, what would that be?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Just one?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't want to pick just one, but I would
go with my personal favorite because I'm getting older. You know,
I just turned sixty.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I know I'm not old, but you know that's time.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Life goes on time. I know, I know it's not old.
As a kid, I thought it was old, But it's
the deathbed visions right now that really comfort me. Absolutely,
no one dies alone. The great hospice doctor Christopher Kerr,
(06:47):
he wrote a book called Death Is But a Dream
and this documentary out about him, and he studied either
sixteen hundred or seventeen hundred people in hospice in their
final weeks, months, days, et cetera. And people dream, and
sometimes these dreams they have their eyes wide open and
they see in the room people like I said, just
(07:08):
like you and I A live young and right there
saying we're taking you home, We're going on a trip.
Pack your bags. And sometimes they see people that they
didn't even know were deceased. Some people have loved ones
who pass and they themselves are near the end of
(07:29):
their life and they're loved ones don't want to say, hey,
by the way, your brother just died. But these people
look and they're like, hey, what's Bob doing here? So
no one dies alone. Even pets show up. And it's
so comforting to me to hear these stories. And I've
got an episode coming up to this coming Friday or
(07:50):
next Friday. But it's children, children who have will terminal lucidity,
like I mentioned, when the brain is pretty much gone
and people are awake, can alert and they can see
into the afterlife. But little kids who don't know anything
about death right and they're describing their grandparents who they
(08:10):
never met, or a dog their mom or dad had
or that they had, and they're talking to them. They're
petting the dogs for or cats for. They see them.
They're alive, they're well, and they're so comforting to me,
and I think they will be to all of us
when it's our time, that no one dies alone. Our
loved ones are there to take us home.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And I know you're going to want them after hearing this.
This is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine
years old now, was suffering with not just one or
two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts
all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability
to really function.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil. To
right of TI's book, Actually that they got me thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Surprise.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It is an amazing immunal modulator, and so I can
see that it would work.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
And so at what point did you see that there
was actually improvement it's really going to work.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller
and then going down to the with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's
you know one that size the warner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see them
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
It's great to see. I'm so happy and.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yes, confident, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
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Speaker 4 (09:38):
Ti, this is awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, this is awesome.
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Speaker 2 (10:02):
One of the reasons I have come up with for
myself in believing in the afterlife is the fact that
nobody can explain to me life itself. Let's take God
out of the picture just for a moment, if we can.
But I cannot get one scientist on the air, Sandra,
to explain to me the big bang, how the universe started,
(10:24):
what it started from, what nothing was. Nobody can tell me, and.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So one can.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And so that that alone tells me that if the
afterlife is real, we really all don't understand it that much.
But it's out there. What do you think of that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I don't think we're going to even understand it once
we get there, just like we don't understand everything that's
happening on planet Earth. But I say, if we can
look at our lives right now as a miracle that
can't be explained. Remember the film What the bleep Do
We know, when we get down to the quantum level
of things, all we are is invisible vibrating energy. So
(11:09):
I love that. I say life is an illusion. I
mean it's a pretty darn good one. But if all
we are is invisible vibrating energy, and if you think
of it, two or more forms of energy can be
at the same place at the same time. So you
and I are surrounded by so many wireless radio signals
(11:31):
and GPS and all kinds of things. I one hundred
percent believe that the afterlife are at We're actually part
of their world instead of it being somewhere beyond the clouds.
But it's just a different energy wavelength that coexists where
we do. And again, you can't explain life here. We
(11:56):
are on this rock called planet Earth, hurling around an
ever expanding universe. When we start looking from that perspective, yeah,
of course the after life can be real. Right, Our
cell phones can pick up all the information at all,
but lots of information in the world. Why can't our
(12:16):
human minds connect with something in the invisible space? It's
all possible.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
What if none of this is real, that it's just
someonless Some people say a matrix something digitally created by
the creator. What if none of this is real?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, what if it is? Though, we can play the
what if game? Sure, Cow's come home. The worst case scenario, George,
is we close our eyes and it's like we.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Go to sleep, right, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's it. But there's so much evidence for not that,
so much evidence. And I love talking about children and
the fact that they've never been taught about near death
experiences and so it's not just terminal lucidity where they
see loved ones just before they pass. But doctor Melvin
(13:12):
Morse has done so much work on near death experiences
with children, studying these incredible stories.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
One little girl.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Got revived, and she says, dying is fun, and well,
what makes it fun? Elizabeth was there? And who's Elizabeth?
Some kind of a guide or an angel? And one
boy said he was in this giant noodle. That's the
best way he could describe the tunnel. But it wasn't
quite a noodle because it was filled with rainbows. Another
(13:44):
little girl said, I saw all these doctors and they
said doctors. You saw doctors, Well, they were fourteen feet
tall and they had light bulbs inside. So she saw
these angelic beings that were glowing, and kids had drawn pictures,
and the story bories are like adults near death experiences.
They're comforted, they see relatives that they didn't know, they're
(14:08):
able to describe again pets.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So I'm going with.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's all real and our loved ones are very much
a part of our life, and we don't die.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
When you go to sleep, aside from dreaming, it's almost
like you've died. Most people when they go to bed
don't even remember when their moment they were awake before
they fall asleep. I don't. But if you don't dream
and simply fall asleep, is it like you're dead? And
(14:40):
then you wake up and life is there again. But
I mean, when you fall asleep, is it like dying?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I say, yeah, it is in fact. Just a couple
episodes ago, there were two hospice hospice doctor and hospice
nurse talking about the dying process and even though it
seems scary and certainly we don't want anybody in pain,
but the natural dying experience, everything starts slowing down. You're
(15:11):
not hungry, you're not thirsty, you sleep a lot, and
then you just have that final breath out and it's
very very peaceful, and so yeah, like falling asleep, you're
just comfree and warm. But the big difference is you
open your eyes up and there you loved ones headed past,
(15:33):
and they say, it's a world quite like Planet Earth
as far as the beauty and nature, those kind of things,
even buildings and things there. So it's not an insult
to our intellect, you know, but there's our loved ones.
And I like to imagine that it's like you're crossing
a finish line in a marathon. You get a big
standing ovation for the job you did.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
We're talking with Santor Champlain, host of the Shades of
the Afterlife on the Paranormal Podcast Network, which of course
you can listen to by going to Coast tocoastam dot
com or iHeartRadio and just put in the Paranormal Podcast
Network and Coast to Coast AM and it'll pop up.
Kind of take us through a scenario. Paint us a picture.
(16:17):
A person goes to sleep and physically dies in their sleep.
What happens to that person? Explain what happens.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'll do my very best. And this information comes through
different sorts of mediums and near death experiences, etc. People
first of all, have their loved ones, guides, angels, whatever
you wish to call them, that are right there to
greet them, to let them know they're not alone, like
(16:50):
there's a change coming, right, So we're together and they
open their eyes and yes, they're surrounded by loved ones.
If you're somebody who had lots of of pats, there
right there, your parents, grandparents' ancestors are right there.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do we know we're dead?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I don't think we might right away. You might say like, hey, folks,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Or I'm having a dream or something.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, well it's more real than the dream, that's the thing.
From what I've been told, there was a many people know.
Some people don't know that. My career has been being
a chef and I cooked for race car teams. That
was my employment before old COVID hit planet Earth. But
one of the race car drivers, who was a champion
(17:42):
race car driver, he told me that he had had
a near death experience due to a car accident, and
he floated above his body and there was no pain.
He said he was more alive than he feels here
on Earth. He said his grandmother and grandfather were there
(18:03):
to greet him, and he said they were incredibly real,
and it made this life seem like it was just
the dream. And he was given the opportunity to go
with them, which seemed very appealing. But he also looked
back on his body, which was in the hospital and
his mom and dad and brother were praying there, and
(18:25):
he said, no, I've got to go back. He was
given the choice and he came back, but he said
it was so real that it made this life seem
like it was just the dream. So it's even more
real than what we're experiencing right now. And for this gentleman,
because that took away his fear of dying, it also
took away his fear of living. So on the racetrack,
(18:48):
he put his foot on that paddle a little faster
than others and break at the last minute, and he
went on to win championships. So I don't want everybody
to have a near death experience, but if we can
get that same result by hearing enough of these stories,
then we can get our money's worth out of life,
because I think life has a purpose. But when we
cross over, we can continue to learn to explore. They
(19:12):
talk about the Kashik Records or the Halls of learning.
We can go and have all these virtual experiences. If
you want to go back to I don't know, the
eighteen hundreds and explore something, Boom there you are. If
you want to go to the pyramids in Egypt, Boom,
there you are. Back in the day, and you can
(19:35):
have a house, you can live, you can work, you
can do all kinds of great things.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I say that the afterlife doesn't have any bugs though, right,
No bugs, no mosquitoes, but a world very much like this.
And I think our world was designed from their world.
I've got a bunch of bird feeders out George, and
some of the birds are incredibly colored in like different
and paint.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know, different.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Just I'm thinking there has to be some divine intelligence
and I imagine a bunch of kids with coloring books
creating all these different animals like zebras and giraffes and things,
and then oooh, and here we have them on planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
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