January 13, 2026 • 15 mins
George Noory and author Nick Begich discuss use of new technology to control the human mind, how data can be manipulated to agitate the public and make them easier to control, and how historical figures like Adolph Hitler and Joseph McCarthy used fear to manipulate entire nations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrey along
with Dick Begatch and we'll take calls with Nick next
hour here on Coast to Coast, Nick with the Adventist
Social media. Is it easier or more difficult to control
a human mind?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's probably a lot easier, just in terms of how
much time most people spend on social media. And you know,
you provide a lot of information if you really take
account of it, not just there, but every single computer
inquiry that a person makes, and most people draw their
(00:39):
information now primarily from social media, less from news networks.
News networks have become less and less trusted over time.
And when you think about information generally, we have more
than we've ever had before, and yet we've actually maybe
become less educated in certain ways, maybe just the abundance
(01:05):
of it, and more of it's for entertainment, less of
it for uh, for learning. But we you know, when
you think about just a way in which communication has
generally changed, and and really less of it personal, more
of an impersonal. Social media is a prime expression of it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Why isn't social media schooling it in, uh, watchdogging some
of these reports a little better, though. I mean, I've
seen reports of people that apparently have been killed or
died and you go and find out they're still around.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, you know again, you know when when you think
about just sort of how the systems work and or
don't work, but as they get more sophisticated and and
more accurate in what they project and then again what
they push, because when you gather information about people, you
(02:04):
also feedback just that which is maybe the most saleable,
the most consumable for that individual. And that's what we've
seen more than anything else, is the individualization of how
information comes at you, if you can think about it
in that way, and that's what sort of pushes the
individual and the group and the crowd around. And it's
(02:27):
created really an exceptionally polarized culture, one that I think
has gotten more polarized, more narrow in its focus, because
the information that we're most apt to agree with is
what tends to come our way the more we're involved
in these systems, and that really pushes us into corners.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Let's look at what's happening in Iran right now. They're
killing people they're killing demonstrators, They've shut down their internet
to avoid some of the things we've talked about. They
have they have never had this problem since nineteen seventy nine,
and I think it's going to get worse.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, And it's a reflection and maybe a sign of
the times, you know, because when you think about Iran
just as a you know, what's going on there, high inflation,
lack of certain basic commodities, and then the pressure of
a culture that tends to be relatively oppressive compared to
(03:29):
a lot of other places. And the first thing they
do is shut off the communications. And this relatively easily
done when you consider modern communication links. So I mean
it's truly a double edged sort. It provides the possibilities
of endless possibilities and at the same time ends up
(03:51):
being more of a directed weaponized system. Information systems generally
are that way. Communication systems the same and been the overlap.
Today in terms of controlling populations, you can do a
lot by just switching off the information systems themselves, and
(04:12):
it's much more easily done today. Even when you think
about banks and communications in terms of your finances, all
of it is to switch away literally in terms of
most manipulation of any of those systems.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What concerns you the most about controlling the human mind?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, the you know, the advancement of the technologies and
the way in which they can be used and are
not restricted. I mean we've talked about energy weapons on
this program for over thirty thirty five years, a long
time on coasts, and you know, these systems have just
(04:55):
gotten better. You know, even in this latest thing in Venezuela. Uh,
we're here the reports of a sonic weapon being used
to disable the adversaries on the way in. Yeah, right,
that's exactly right. And the sophistication of these systems, uh great,
you know grades over a lot of territory because once
(05:18):
you learn how to manipulate the very energy systems that
drive the various functions of the human body, then you
can override those systems and manipulate them. And so, whether
it's a weapon system is overt as a sonic system
that's being reported, or something of a similar nature, or
(05:38):
something more subtle that pushes you around, so to speak,
or excite your emotions in certain ways, these are technologies
that have been around a very very long time, and
in today's world, Yeah, the temptation to use them to
further political ends. I don't care what side of the
(06:01):
aisle you might be standing on. Their different rationale for
pushing those buttons and manipulating and using those technologies, and
the temptation is great, and the use of these technologies
is I think more universal than people would like to believe.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Was it easier or more difficult thirty years ago to
control the human mind?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, yeah, I'd say more difficult. I mean just based
on the evolution of information systems and understanding of how
to mediate the human body in terms of energy systems
were way way further ahead today than we were then.
But the things we could do even back then, you
(06:46):
know that we're being done as far back as the
nineteen fifties, when a lot of this stuff began, you know,
seventy five years ago. And what evolved from that, you know,
was a lot of but manipulating behavior was part of it.
The other was a discovery of sort of what else
(07:06):
was possible with human consciousness. And this is where you
start getting into some pretty wild things that they were doing,
because they were experimenting with every kind of drug and
substance to see what effects they could have on humans
and what they might trigger and extrasensory perceptions, accelerated learning.
(07:29):
I mean, the list of programs was endless and that
never really changed. A lot of it privatized because private
labs exist that are interested in the same kind of
technologies brain to machine interfaces. That opened the door for
a lot of possibilities and a lot of more direct
(07:50):
manipulation and control. I mean, if you think about things
like neurally today literally cooking up, so to speak. There
was even a PDS special years ago, a couple decades
ago called the Worldwide Mind, which was this idea of
linking all the minds in the world together. And we're
(08:11):
not very far from that if you really stop and
just take soccer where we are right now pretty close
to that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Nick, what is brain biofeedback?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, you know, this technique has been around a long
time in different ways of doing it, but it's essentially
brain training where you're in some cases where they'll use
like a a cap that measures brain activity and then
what they'll do is plug it into a computer and
(08:42):
maybe have some graphic and you learn how to manipulate
that graphic, whether it's a bouncing ball or something like this.
And what it allows you to do is train the
brain to operate within a certain range. So if a
person were hyperactive or attention depths of disorder, they've used
the techniques for training rather than chemicals to alter the brain.
(09:05):
What they've literally done is train the brain to operate
within sort of an optimized range where intellectual and creative
thinking can take place in a more efficient way. And
so biofeedback is really a powerful thing used in a
lot of different ways. And these systems have evolved and
(09:27):
can in fact enhance human performance in ways that not
just overcome certain challenges in learning, but also enhance regular
learners to be able to just dial into that ideal
state of learning. And so biofeedback is used for training.
You can use drivers also, which are systems that actually
(09:51):
push the brain into certain ranges by using flickering light
or bi orbeat sound manipulated into a certain way. But
you can create a hypersensitivity for learning. And if you
think about it, the same thing can be applied for
manipulation on a subtle basis. Just using almost any electromagnetic carrier,
(10:13):
you can oscillate a signal to change the basic mind
state of an individual.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
What would you say, nick might be the best way,
the easiest way to manipulate the masses.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know, probably the simplest would be to create a
signal that created a certain level of agitation, for instance,
and then just the standard news feeds that come through
the various media would be enough to move a certain
segment of the population. By just creating an underlying disease,
(10:50):
if you would, and then giving some kind of a
report on what might be the root cause of that
can move a small number of people, but actually a
lot of people in a hurry. But you can do
things as simple as that. The things that we're seeing
today are even more subtle. I mean, it's just a
matter of if you've collected a lot of data on
(11:13):
each individual, and then you can send back specific messages.
Say you have a political issue that ninety nine issues
you disagree with, but there's one you agree with that
might be the only one you hear about during a
campaign cycle, just because you've revealed enough information to sort
(11:36):
of know your dislikes. And this is a kind of
manipulation I'm talking about, whether it's to sell you a
box of soap or political candidate. As these systems become
more integrated and sophisticated. This is what you get in
feedback loops and some of this, and this data is
manipulated for that specific purpose for marketing and getting outcomes.
(11:58):
And the more efficient you are at that, the greater
the likelihood of the outcome that you're seeking. And when
you start throwing AI on this, the ability to sort
bast amounts of data, and this will become more efficient
as time goes on and as computing systems become more powerful,
and so the overlays of each of these things provides
(12:22):
sort of a higher resolution in and also the ability
then to move populations pretty much wherever you want them
to go. And that's a very dangerous thing because that's
not about education anymore. That's not about an informed public anymore.
That's about something quite different.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Back in the fifties, Joseph McCarthy, the junior Senator of Wisconsin,
created a national stir by accusing a lot of people
about being communists. Was he manipulating the human mind?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah? I think so again, you know, using emotion and
the times that that period of time, what was in
people's consciousness to be able to use fear and anger
and insecurities to move people along the other thing that happens.
And this is something that is more well understood now,
(13:14):
I mean, at least on a scientific basis. If you
look at the mind when it's in these states of
flight or fight or a panic or strong negative emotions,
you get in coherent brain patterns that those that are
associated not with higher order thinking. Those come where you'll
see very rhythmic patterns in the brain, very different kind
(13:36):
of a brain organization. But if you can create that
fear that underlying anxiety, it's a lot easier to move people,
to push them in certain directions. And that's what was
understood and I think is understood today, whether it's you know,
the screaming minister scaring the heck out of you, or
(13:59):
or any number of things you know that are generating
fear to push you in a certain direction. Where the
calm of reason, which requires a very different type of
thinking and lends itself to all of these other attributes
that humans are much more capable of. The positive emotions
are aligned with that type of brain activity as well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Nick was Hitler, an expert in mass hysteria.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know there is a lot I would say, yes,
of course, but I would say there was a very
dark evil, a cult side to what that individual represented,
and I think that's a dimension that also gets missed.
And in fact, I would say in a lot of
the early things that they were messing around with and
(14:51):
research trying to figure out what you could do with
the brain, open the door to a lot of pretty
hairy things. And I think that's again, when you start
messing with consciousness in different ways, you're messing with free will.
You're tapping on places that even God, most religions would
(15:15):
he would not get, would not intrude on. And that's
where this gets dark. When you start manipulating human behavior,
human thinking in ways that are meant to push to
do things in a way that is not honest, is
not transparent, I think is the beginning of a dark path.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrey along
with Dick Begatch and we'll take calls with Nick next
hour here on Coast to Coast, Nick with the Adventist
Social media. Is it easier or more difficult to control
a human mind?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's probably a lot easier, just in terms of how
much time most people spend on social media. And you know,
you provide a lot of information if you really take
account of it, not just there, but every single computer
inquiry that a person makes, and most people draw their
(00:39):
information now primarily from social media, less from news networks.
News networks have become less and less trusted over time.
And when you think about information generally, we have more
than we've ever had before, and yet we've actually maybe
become less educated in certain ways, maybe just the abundance
(01:05):
of it, and more of it's for entertainment, less of
it for uh, for learning. But we you know, when
you think about just a way in which communication has
generally changed, and and really less of it personal, more
of an impersonal. Social media is a prime expression of it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Why isn't social media schooling it in, uh, watchdogging some
of these reports a little better, though. I mean, I've
seen reports of people that apparently have been killed or
died and you go and find out they're still around.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, you know again, you know when when you think
about just sort of how the systems work and or
don't work, but as they get more sophisticated and and
more accurate in what they project and then again what
they push, because when you gather information about people, you
(02:04):
also feedback just that which is maybe the most saleable,
the most consumable for that individual. And that's what we've
seen more than anything else, is the individualization of how
information comes at you, if you can think about it
in that way, and that's what sort of pushes the
individual and the group and the crowd around. And it's
(02:27):
created really an exceptionally polarized culture, one that I think
has gotten more polarized, more narrow in its focus, because
the information that we're most apt to agree with is
what tends to come our way the more we're involved
in these systems, and that really pushes us into corners.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Let's look at what's happening in Iran right now. They're
killing people they're killing demonstrators, They've shut down their internet
to avoid some of the things we've talked about. They
have they have never had this problem since nineteen seventy nine,
and I think it's going to get worse.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, And it's a reflection and maybe a sign of
the times, you know, because when you think about Iran
just as a you know, what's going on there, high inflation,
lack of certain basic commodities, and then the pressure of
a culture that tends to be relatively oppressive compared to
(03:29):
a lot of other places. And the first thing they
do is shut off the communications. And this relatively easily
done when you consider modern communication links. So I mean
it's truly a double edged sort. It provides the possibilities
of endless possibilities and at the same time ends up
(03:51):
being more of a directed weaponized system. Information systems generally
are that way. Communication systems the same and been the overlap.
Today in terms of controlling populations, you can do a
lot by just switching off the information systems themselves, and
(04:12):
it's much more easily done today. Even when you think
about banks and communications in terms of your finances, all
of it is to switch away literally in terms of
most manipulation of any of those systems.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What concerns you the most about controlling the human mind?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, the you know, the advancement of the technologies and
the way in which they can be used and are
not restricted. I mean we've talked about energy weapons on
this program for over thirty thirty five years, a long
time on coasts, and you know, these systems have just
(04:55):
gotten better. You know, even in this latest thing in Venezuela. Uh,
we're here the reports of a sonic weapon being used
to disable the adversaries on the way in. Yeah, right,
that's exactly right. And the sophistication of these systems, uh great,
you know grades over a lot of territory because once
(05:18):
you learn how to manipulate the very energy systems that
drive the various functions of the human body, then you
can override those systems and manipulate them. And so, whether
it's a weapon system is overt as a sonic system
that's being reported, or something of a similar nature, or
(05:38):
something more subtle that pushes you around, so to speak,
or excite your emotions in certain ways, these are technologies
that have been around a very very long time, and
in today's world, Yeah, the temptation to use them to
further political ends. I don't care what side of the
(06:01):
aisle you might be standing on. Their different rationale for
pushing those buttons and manipulating and using those technologies, and
the temptation is great, and the use of these technologies
is I think more universal than people would like to believe.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Was it easier or more difficult thirty years ago to
control the human mind?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, yeah, I'd say more difficult. I mean just based
on the evolution of information systems and understanding of how
to mediate the human body in terms of energy systems
were way way further ahead today than we were then.
But the things we could do even back then, you
(06:46):
know that we're being done as far back as the
nineteen fifties, when a lot of this stuff began, you know,
seventy five years ago. And what evolved from that, you know,
was a lot of but manipulating behavior was part of it.
The other was a discovery of sort of what else
(07:06):
was possible with human consciousness. And this is where you
start getting into some pretty wild things that they were doing,
because they were experimenting with every kind of drug and
substance to see what effects they could have on humans
and what they might trigger and extrasensory perceptions, accelerated learning.
(07:29):
I mean, the list of programs was endless and that
never really changed. A lot of it privatized because private
labs exist that are interested in the same kind of
technologies brain to machine interfaces. That opened the door for
a lot of possibilities and a lot of more direct
(07:50):
manipulation and control. I mean, if you think about things
like neurally today literally cooking up, so to speak. There
was even a PDS special years ago, a couple decades
ago called the Worldwide Mind, which was this idea of
linking all the minds in the world together. And we're
(08:11):
not very far from that if you really stop and
just take soccer where we are right now pretty close
to that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Nick, what is brain biofeedback?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, you know, this technique has been around a long
time in different ways of doing it, but it's essentially
brain training where you're in some cases where they'll use
like a a cap that measures brain activity and then
what they'll do is plug it into a computer and
(08:42):
maybe have some graphic and you learn how to manipulate
that graphic, whether it's a bouncing ball or something like this.
And what it allows you to do is train the
brain to operate within a certain range. So if a
person were hyperactive or attention depths of disorder, they've used
the techniques for training rather than chemicals to alter the brain.
(09:05):
What they've literally done is train the brain to operate
within sort of an optimized range where intellectual and creative
thinking can take place in a more efficient way. And
so biofeedback is really a powerful thing used in a
lot of different ways. And these systems have evolved and
(09:27):
can in fact enhance human performance in ways that not
just overcome certain challenges in learning, but also enhance regular
learners to be able to just dial into that ideal
state of learning. And so biofeedback is used for training.
You can use drivers also, which are systems that actually
(09:51):
push the brain into certain ranges by using flickering light
or bi orbeat sound manipulated into a certain way. But
you can create a hypersensitivity for learning. And if you
think about it, the same thing can be applied for
manipulation on a subtle basis. Just using almost any electromagnetic carrier,
(10:13):
you can oscillate a signal to change the basic mind
state of an individual.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
What would you say, nick might be the best way,
the easiest way to manipulate the masses.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know, probably the simplest would be to create a
signal that created a certain level of agitation, for instance,
and then just the standard news feeds that come through
the various media would be enough to move a certain
segment of the population. By just creating an underlying disease,
(10:50):
if you would, and then giving some kind of a
report on what might be the root cause of that
can move a small number of people, but actually a
lot of people in a hurry. But you can do
things as simple as that. The things that we're seeing
today are even more subtle. I mean, it's just a
matter of if you've collected a lot of data on
(11:13):
each individual, and then you can send back specific messages.
Say you have a political issue that ninety nine issues
you disagree with, but there's one you agree with that
might be the only one you hear about during a
campaign cycle, just because you've revealed enough information to sort
(11:36):
of know your dislikes. And this is a kind of
manipulation I'm talking about, whether it's to sell you a
box of soap or political candidate. As these systems become
more integrated and sophisticated. This is what you get in
feedback loops and some of this, and this data is
manipulated for that specific purpose for marketing and getting outcomes.
(11:58):
And the more efficient you are at that, the greater
the likelihood of the outcome that you're seeking. And when
you start throwing AI on this, the ability to sort
bast amounts of data, and this will become more efficient
as time goes on and as computing systems become more powerful,
and so the overlays of each of these things provides
(12:22):
sort of a higher resolution in and also the ability
then to move populations pretty much wherever you want them
to go. And that's a very dangerous thing because that's
not about education anymore. That's not about an informed public anymore.
That's about something quite different.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Back in the fifties, Joseph McCarthy, the junior Senator of Wisconsin,
created a national stir by accusing a lot of people
about being communists. Was he manipulating the human mind?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah? I think so again, you know, using emotion and
the times that that period of time, what was in
people's consciousness to be able to use fear and anger
and insecurities to move people along the other thing that happens.
And this is something that is more well understood now,
(13:14):
I mean, at least on a scientific basis. If you
look at the mind when it's in these states of
flight or fight or a panic or strong negative emotions,
you get in coherent brain patterns that those that are
associated not with higher order thinking. Those come where you'll
see very rhythmic patterns in the brain, very different kind
(13:36):
of a brain organization. But if you can create that
fear that underlying anxiety, it's a lot easier to move people,
to push them in certain directions. And that's what was
understood and I think is understood today, whether it's you know,
the screaming minister scaring the heck out of you, or
(13:59):
or any number of things you know that are generating
fear to push you in a certain direction. Where the
calm of reason, which requires a very different type of
thinking and lends itself to all of these other attributes
that humans are much more capable of. The positive emotions
are aligned with that type of brain activity as well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Nick was Hitler, an expert in mass hysteria.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know there is a lot I would say, yes,
of course, but I would say there was a very
dark evil, a cult side to what that individual represented,
and I think that's a dimension that also gets missed.
And in fact, I would say in a lot of
the early things that they were messing around with and
(14:51):
research trying to figure out what you could do with
the brain, open the door to a lot of pretty
hairy things. And I think that's again, when you start
messing with consciousness in different ways, you're messing with free will.
You're tapping on places that even God, most religions would
(15:15):
he would not get, would not intrude on. And that's
where this gets dark. When you start manipulating human behavior,
human thinking in ways that are meant to push to
do things in a way that is not honest, is
not transparent, I think is the beginning of a dark path.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
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