February 25, 2026 • 19 mins
George Noory and retired police officers Marianne Robb and Dave Rich discuss the stigmas that first responders face when they encounter UFOs and other supernatural events, why officers are reluctant to talk about their paranormal experiences, and share their own story of investigating the case of a ghost at a haunted high school.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio PAN.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you
two special guests tonight, retired police officers. Let me introduce
both their names, then we'll go to them. Marianne rob
is a retired police officer with thirty four years of
experience in Arizona law enforcement. Her career included roles as
a patrol officer, a detective specializing in arson, property crimes,
(00:28):
in arcontics, and as a crime prevention officer. Our second guest,
David Rich, who will be on with her, is a
retired police officer with twenty five years of service in
Arizona law enforcement. During his career, he worked in various
roles including patrol, gang investigation, homicide, sex crimes, and narcotics.
(00:52):
In addition to his law enforcement background, he has been
active in UFO investigations as a field investigator for the
Mutual UFO Network. Move on the Arizona Chapter. Mari Anne,
welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, thank you, George, it's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Looking forward and David you as well.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Thank you, it's awesome to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
How did you both get involved in the strange and unusual.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I'll start with that one.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
About three years ago, I went to a move on
meeting mutual UFO meeting here in Phoenix, and there was
a speaker that was talking about disclosure and was talking
about the military starting to come forward and pilots.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But the thing is, after I left that meeting, I'm like, why.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Aren't law enforcement officers and first responders talking about this
kind of stuff. So Wenday, I was at my house
speaking with Alejandro Rojas, who's a good friend of ours
with Enigma Labs and Open Minds, and I was talking
to him about that and he goes, you know, what,
you're a cop, I guarantee officers would open up to you.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I went, that's an excellent idea.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
You know, we can reach out to other law enforcement officers.
So I called Dave and I was telling him about
what the meeting was about and what Alejandro and I
spoke about. And I said, why don't you think that
police officers aren't talking about this phenomenon. I mean, there's
over eight hundred thousand law enforcement officers in this country alone,
(02:37):
and they're working twenty four to seven. You know, they're
seeing something, but why aren't they talking? So when I
asked Dave about that, he goes, well, I'll tell you
exactly why they're not talking. And then he proceeded to
tell me about what happened to him in twenty and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And at this point, to let him.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Tell you what happened and why uappd got it start?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, I'd love to hear it. What happened David?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
All right?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
So back in April of twenty seventeen, I was working
as a school resource officer at one of the high
schools and it was a Saturday. It was the day
of prom. The front desk of the school. Just before
noon got a nine one one call from the reception
desk and it sounded like a woman kind of whispered talking,
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saying that she was scared. Patrol officers get dispatched to
the school. They end up going in, they don't find anybody,
They find the open line, They find the phone sitting
on the counter. It took him fourteen minutes to get there.
So the entire time that they were driving there, there
was an open line in the nine to one one
dispatcher was trying to get somebody to pick up the phone.
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Once they get there, they start looking. They don't find anybody.
They go around to the nurse's office, and these are
two officers that I know very well. They go into
the nurse's office, and when they walk into the nurse's office,
they're kind of staggered, so they're right next to each other,
so one can peel right, one can peel left, and
as they come through the door, something that neither one
of them could see physically pushed them out of the
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way and went out of the room and they couldn't
see it. So I find out about this call when
I go to prom that night. The principal tells me
about it, says, hey, did you hear about the nine
one one call? I'm like, no, I didn't hear anything.
So I called dispatch. I was like, hey, was there
a nine on one call at the school today? The
dispatcher is like, oh, you need to talk to this
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patrol officer. And I'm like, why won't anybody tell me
what's going on? So I call the patrol officer and
his text to me, I actually texted him. His text
me was dude, your school is haunted. And I'm like okay,
So here's the part where it actually gets interesting because
it was came in as a nine one one call.
I had a sergeant who told me to do a
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complete investigation to see if this was some sort of
hacking of the nine one one system. So we had
to make sure that the nine on one system was intact.
So he tells me this. At that time, at that moment,
I was about as hardcore skeptic as you could possibly be.
I did not believe ghosts exists and believe UFOs exist.
At this time, I didn't believe in any of it.
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So I do a full investigation from the perspective of
has somebody hacked the nine one one system? Has somebody
figured something out? So I do this complete investigation. We
take video, the surveillance video from the front desk of
the school. We take the nine to one one tape,
We have it analyzed. Long story short, I do an
incomplete investigation. At the time that phone call comes in
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from that front desk, there's nobody standing at that phone.
We watched the security footage. The phone is dead center
of the screen. There's nobody at that phone. I literally
see the two officers go into the nurse's office. I
see them both run right out immediately looking for something,
and nothing went past them. We did a full investigation
into the phone to see could somebody tapped into the line,
(06:01):
could somebody have done like computer generated voice something like that.
And remember at this time in twenty seventeen, you really
didn't have AI, you didn't have any like real CGI
type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So we do the full investigation.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I have somebody from muf on actually analyze the audio
because I wanted to see if there was like, could
you tell if it was like a computer generated thing?
And he returns with the audio and he tells me, hey,
just say you know, it's not a computer generated voice.
He's like, it doesn't even sound like a human voice.
I don't even I don't know what this is. And
he's like, more important, you know, it doesn't say that
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I'm scared. And I was like, well, what is it saying?
And he says, it says I scare. So the way
that this phone call went nine to one one operator
picks up the phone, says nine on one, what's your emergency?
Sounds like the voice says I'm scared. Nine one one
out for operator says you're what was that? And it
says it again, she says you're scared. It says no,
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and then drops the phone on the counter. So at
this point, after running all of these leads down, I'm
left with this, like, I don't I don't know what
this is. Obviously at the time, I don't believe in ghosts.
I didn't believe in anything like that. But I could
not come up with a rational explanation. So the way
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UAPPD comes around is after I do this investigation and
I tell my sergeant, hey, I don't know what this is, like,
I can't explain it. About three days later, I get
called upstairs, which is, uh, if you're in law enforcement,
you know it's not a good thing to get called upstairs.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It never is.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Even if you only have one floor in the police station,
it's not a good thing to get called up stairs.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Probably the chief that makes the call, right.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Well, this was a sergeant.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So he calls me into the room, sits me down.
I look at the computer. He has the video footage
from the security footage. He has the audio there. He
plays it, looks at me and says, literally, you expect
me to believe this? And I looked at him and
I'm like, I was like shocked at this time, at
this point in my career, like I was a decorated officer,
(08:06):
I had the Life Saving Award, Meritorious Conduct, Distinguished Service,
I was known as being a.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Pretty good officer.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
And he basically fled out, told me that I was
lying and I was making up the whole thing, and
I'm like, how would I make this up? And why
so yeah, and why why would I make it up?
So basically I stormed out of the office basically with
the statement of you will not talk about this, you
will not file a report, you will not do anything.
So I leave And for that was seven years before
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I retired. So for the last seven years of my career,
I basically walked around wondering, is this is the day
I'm going to get called back upstairs and I'm gonna
get in trouble for something.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But being the thorough.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Investigator that I am, I held onto everything. So I
still have the security footage, I still have the audio.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I still have everything.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
But when Marianne called me up and was like, Hey,
why our office not talking about these things, I totally
flat out They're not talking about them because of the stigmas,
because of you know, bosses and sergeants telling them to
not say anything, all the way up to the stigmas
of just the straight up believability factor. And so we
kind of created this organization because at that time, for
(09:18):
six seven years after it happened.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I had nobody to talk to.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
It.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You know, kind of weighs on you. It's that moment
of going.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
From a hardcore skeptic to actually taking that moment to say,
holy cow, I think there's more to this world than
what I think. And so I ended up having to
kind of negotiate that by myself. And so when mari
Ann mentioned, hey, why are we doing this, we kind
of between the two of us and Alejandro Rojas kind
of came up with the idea of, you know, it
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would be really nice is to give these guys what
I didn't have back in twenty seventeen, which is a
safe environment where they can talk about what it is.
Maybe we can help them get to the bottom of it,
or at least just negotiate the traumas involved.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
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Speaker 1 (10:05):
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Speaker 4 (10:23):
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Speaker 8 (10:23):
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Speaker 1 (10:29):
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Speaker 7 (10:35):
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Speaker 8 (10:40):
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Speaker 1 (10:53):
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Speaker 8 (10:54):
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Speaker 3 (11:01):
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Speaker 2 (11:32):
Now, Marianne, how did you get involved in this?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Well, actually just going to that meeting. Personally, I have
never had any experience, whether UFO's paranormal cryptids, bigfoot skin
walk or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I have never had anything happened.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
The way I got into even Moofon was my late
husband went to a it was the International UFO Congress
back in twenty fourteen, and he met the director and
assistant state director of Muffon at that conference and started going.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
To to the Moufon meetings. So about six months later
he asked me, says, would you just go to one
meeting with me?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And you know, being a skeptic and also being a cop,
I'm like, I don't know if I want to get
involved in that because I wasn't sure.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm thinking, and I hate to say it this way.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
But I was thinking tinfoil hats, I'm thinking just weird stuff.
So went to my first meeting and the speaker was
Kathleen Martin, and let me tell you, that was the
most amazing, awesome experience that I had. These folks are
science oriented, a lot of them are skeptics themselves, and
(12:57):
they're just they're trying to find the truth. And Kathleen
was an amazing speaker. So from there, then November of
twenty fourteen, Travis Walton had his first ever Skyfire summit
up in Hebrew, Arizona, and that weekend my husband, my
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late husband, and I were asked to house three folks
that are going to speak at that conference.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And the people that we.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Housed was Peter Robbins, Richard Dolan, and the great late
Stanton Friedman.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The best of the best, Oh they were.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And let me tell you, from that day forward, I
just hit the door running and just got.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Into the move on.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I still haven't experienced anything, but there is just an
amazing amount of folks and all kinds of information out
there in the UFO community, and I'm real happy to
be part of it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now I'll tell you my interesting Stanton Friedman story of
Marianne and David when I was a twenty one year
reporter in Detroit. He was my first interview when he
came to town to speak to a group of professors
at a university and I asked my news director, can
(14:26):
I cover this tonight? And he said, no, I'm not
spending the overtime. Do it on your own, and I
said I will, so I did. I interviewed Stanton and
I stayed friends with him. Let's jump ahead until the
day he died. He was with me in Columbus, Ohio
at a live event on stage. On his way home,
he dies at the airport. So he was my first
(14:50):
radio interview. I was his last interviewer. Small world.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Miss him. I miss him a lot.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
He was I actually had lunch with him, Kathleen Myrsen
and Travis Walton once. It was just the four of
us sitting there was actually incredibly eye opening.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Did you ever talk about his gray basket?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No, we actually talked about Believe it or not.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
They were more interested in school shootings and school violence
because they found out I was a school resource officer
at the time, So the entire conversation was more about
my stuff rather than theirs. And it was incredible to
see people of that knowledge and that caliber be so
like more interested in what you have to say.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
It was.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It was quite eye opening.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So the event that you first came into with that
voice over nine one one, what do you think at
this point?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It was, Well, it I think it was a spirit.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
It really does like and I know it's it's still
kind of hard for me to say because I spent
my entire career being very clinical and very logical, and
there was a logical explanation to everything. But when you
run through every possible lead, the only thing that is left,
if you've ruled out everything, the only thing that's left
is the stuff that's unbelievable. And we now live in
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a world where new things are being discovered every day.
Could it be just something that right now we think
of as being like a spirit or a ghost, But
maybe one hundred years for about we're going to look
at it as a normal, everyday occurrence.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mary Anne tell us about the UAPDSHPD dot com website.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Well, now, uap PD it stands for Unidentified Anomalist Phenomenon
PD for police department. If any law enforcement officer first
responder that has an encounter that has happened to them
and they have never spoken about it and they just
want to talk to someone, or even citizens that want
(17:00):
to see what ua p PD is all about.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Please go to.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
UAP dash pd dot com and it explains who we are,
what our mission is. Uh, it shows the the upcoming
events that we have with Dave and I presentations, and
it also has some of our podcasts that we have
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done previously. So if somebody's like, well, what what is
Marianne and Dave all about? They can watch one of
our podcasts and see what we're doing and that we
are cops. We are you know, we've we've walked in
their shoes, we've we've been in the trenches all together,
and we understand what they're going through and the stigmas
(17:51):
and the especially the ridicule from either other officers or
like Dave, a supervisor, and we know what's going on.
So we would to have them come on to our
web page again UAP DASHPD dot com. Contact us and
I will give you, you know, a callback, I will
(18:12):
email you and then we can set up a time
and we would love to talk to you and you know, see.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
How much traffic do you get on that site.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, we really haven't gotten a whole lot. We've been
doing this for about two years now, and we appreciate
radio shows like yours where we can get the word out.
We've got about a little over ninety stories now within
the two years, but it's we think you and other
(18:47):
podcasters so we can get the stories, get our information
out and they can see who we are.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
You know, yes we are cops and we know what
you're going through.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
So we're hoping that we get more and more stories
out there because we know there's cops out there that
are probably hesitant to reach out and share their experiences.
But just today understand they need to understand that we
are very discreet and they can either remain totally anonymous
(19:23):
or they can identify themselves. It's up to them on
how far they want to go in telling the story,
or maybe they just says, hey, you know, thank you,
I just needed to hear it. So that's you know,
that's why we that's why we started this organization.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you
two special guests tonight, retired police officers. Let me introduce
both their names, then we'll go to them. Marianne rob
is a retired police officer with thirty four years of
experience in Arizona law enforcement. Her career included roles as
a patrol officer, a detective specializing in arson, property crimes,
(00:28):
in arcontics, and as a crime prevention officer. Our second guest,
David Rich, who will be on with her, is a
retired police officer with twenty five years of service in
Arizona law enforcement. During his career, he worked in various
roles including patrol, gang investigation, homicide, sex crimes, and narcotics.
(00:52):
In addition to his law enforcement background, he has been
active in UFO investigations as a field investigator for the
Mutual UFO Network. Move on the Arizona Chapter. Mari Anne,
welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, thank you, George, it's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Looking forward and David you as well.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Thank you, it's awesome to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
How did you both get involved in the strange and unusual.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I'll start with that one.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
About three years ago, I went to a move on
meeting mutual UFO meeting here in Phoenix, and there was
a speaker that was talking about disclosure and was talking
about the military starting to come forward and pilots.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But the thing is, after I left that meeting, I'm like, why.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Aren't law enforcement officers and first responders talking about this
kind of stuff. So Wenday, I was at my house
speaking with Alejandro Rojas, who's a good friend of ours
with Enigma Labs and Open Minds, and I was talking
to him about that and he goes, you know, what,
you're a cop, I guarantee officers would open up to you.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I went, that's an excellent idea.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
You know, we can reach out to other law enforcement officers.
So I called Dave and I was telling him about
what the meeting was about and what Alejandro and I
spoke about. And I said, why don't you think that
police officers aren't talking about this phenomenon. I mean, there's
over eight hundred thousand law enforcement officers in this country alone,
(02:37):
and they're working twenty four to seven. You know, they're
seeing something, but why aren't they talking? So when I
asked Dave about that, he goes, well, I'll tell you
exactly why they're not talking. And then he proceeded to
tell me about what happened to him in twenty and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And at this point, to let him.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Tell you what happened and why uappd got it start?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, I'd love to hear it. What happened David?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
All right?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
So back in April of twenty seventeen, I was working
as a school resource officer at one of the high
schools and it was a Saturday. It was the day
of prom. The front desk of the school. Just before
noon got a nine one one call from the reception
desk and it sounded like a woman kind of whispered talking,
(03:31):
saying that she was scared. Patrol officers get dispatched to
the school. They end up going in, they don't find anybody,
They find the open line, They find the phone sitting
on the counter. It took him fourteen minutes to get there.
So the entire time that they were driving there, there
was an open line in the nine to one one
dispatcher was trying to get somebody to pick up the phone.
(03:53):
Once they get there, they start looking. They don't find anybody.
They go around to the nurse's office, and these are
two officers that I know very well. They go into
the nurse's office, and when they walk into the nurse's office,
they're kind of staggered, so they're right next to each other,
so one can peel right, one can peel left, and
as they come through the door, something that neither one
of them could see physically pushed them out of the
(04:14):
way and went out of the room and they couldn't
see it. So I find out about this call when
I go to prom that night. The principal tells me
about it, says, hey, did you hear about the nine
one one call? I'm like, no, I didn't hear anything.
So I called dispatch. I was like, hey, was there
a nine on one call at the school today? The
dispatcher is like, oh, you need to talk to this
(04:34):
patrol officer. And I'm like, why won't anybody tell me
what's going on? So I call the patrol officer and
his text to me, I actually texted him. His text
me was dude, your school is haunted. And I'm like okay,
So here's the part where it actually gets interesting because
it was came in as a nine one one call.
I had a sergeant who told me to do a
(04:54):
complete investigation to see if this was some sort of
hacking of the nine one one system. So we had
to make sure that the nine on one system was intact.
So he tells me this. At that time, at that moment,
I was about as hardcore skeptic as you could possibly be.
I did not believe ghosts exists and believe UFOs exist.
At this time, I didn't believe in any of it.
(05:15):
So I do a full investigation from the perspective of
has somebody hacked the nine one one system? Has somebody
figured something out? So I do this complete investigation. We
take video, the surveillance video from the front desk of
the school. We take the nine to one one tape,
We have it analyzed. Long story short, I do an
incomplete investigation. At the time that phone call comes in
(05:37):
from that front desk, there's nobody standing at that phone.
We watched the security footage. The phone is dead center
of the screen. There's nobody at that phone. I literally
see the two officers go into the nurse's office. I
see them both run right out immediately looking for something,
and nothing went past them. We did a full investigation
into the phone to see could somebody tapped into the line,
(06:01):
could somebody have done like computer generated voice something like that.
And remember at this time in twenty seventeen, you really
didn't have AI, you didn't have any like real CGI
type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So we do the full investigation.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I have somebody from muf on actually analyze the audio
because I wanted to see if there was like, could
you tell if it was like a computer generated thing?
And he returns with the audio and he tells me, hey,
just say you know, it's not a computer generated voice.
He's like, it doesn't even sound like a human voice.
I don't even I don't know what this is. And
he's like, more important, you know, it doesn't say that
(06:35):
I'm scared. And I was like, well, what is it saying?
And he says, it says I scare. So the way
that this phone call went nine to one one operator
picks up the phone, says nine on one, what's your emergency?
Sounds like the voice says I'm scared. Nine one one
out for operator says you're what was that? And it
says it again, she says you're scared. It says no,
(06:58):
and then drops the phone on the counter. So at
this point, after running all of these leads down, I'm
left with this, like, I don't I don't know what
this is. Obviously at the time, I don't believe in ghosts.
I didn't believe in anything like that. But I could
not come up with a rational explanation. So the way
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UAPPD comes around is after I do this investigation and
I tell my sergeant, hey, I don't know what this is, like,
I can't explain it. About three days later, I get
called upstairs, which is, uh, if you're in law enforcement,
you know it's not a good thing to get called upstairs.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It never is.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Even if you only have one floor in the police station,
it's not a good thing to get called up stairs.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Probably the chief that makes the call, right.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Well, this was a sergeant.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So he calls me into the room, sits me down.
I look at the computer. He has the video footage
from the security footage. He has the audio there. He
plays it, looks at me and says, literally, you expect
me to believe this? And I looked at him and
I'm like, I was like shocked at this time, at
this point in my career, like I was a decorated officer,
(08:06):
I had the Life Saving Award, Meritorious Conduct, Distinguished Service,
I was known as being a.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Pretty good officer.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
And he basically fled out, told me that I was
lying and I was making up the whole thing, and
I'm like, how would I make this up? And why
so yeah, and why why would I make it up?
So basically I stormed out of the office basically with
the statement of you will not talk about this, you
will not file a report, you will not do anything.
So I leave And for that was seven years before
(08:37):
I retired. So for the last seven years of my career,
I basically walked around wondering, is this is the day
I'm going to get called back upstairs and I'm gonna
get in trouble for something.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But being the thorough.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Investigator that I am, I held onto everything. So I
still have the security footage, I still have the audio.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I still have everything.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
But when Marianne called me up and was like, Hey,
why our office not talking about these things, I totally
flat out They're not talking about them because of the stigmas,
because of you know, bosses and sergeants telling them to
not say anything, all the way up to the stigmas
of just the straight up believability factor. And so we
kind of created this organization because at that time, for
(09:18):
six seven years after it happened.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I had nobody to talk to.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
It.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You know, kind of weighs on you. It's that moment
of going.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
From a hardcore skeptic to actually taking that moment to say,
holy cow, I think there's more to this world than
what I think. And so I ended up having to
kind of negotiate that by myself. And so when mari
Ann mentioned, hey, why are we doing this, we kind
of between the two of us and Alejandro Rojas kind
of came up with the idea of, you know, it
(09:48):
would be really nice is to give these guys what
I didn't have back in twenty seventeen, which is a
safe environment where they can talk about what it is.
Maybe we can help them get to the bottom of it,
or at least just negotiate the traumas involved.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
And I know you're gonna want them after hearing this,
this is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I understand that Malachi, who's eight almost nine years old now,
was suffering with not just one or two warts, but
I mean a significant outbreak of warts all over his body,
so significant it impacted his ability to really function.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.
It was Tye's book actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm not surprised. It is an amazing immuno modulator, and
so I can see that it would work.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
And so at what point did you see that there
was actually improvement it's really going to work.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller
and then going down to with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's
you know one that size of the wanner.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I thought, no.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see
him get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Yeah, yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's great to see.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm so happy and.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yes, untident, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Friends that have seen it, that is blown away.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Ti, this is awesome, Yeah, this is awesome.
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Speaker 2 (11:32):
Now, Marianne, how did you get involved in this?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Well, actually just going to that meeting. Personally, I have
never had any experience, whether UFO's paranormal cryptids, bigfoot skin
walk or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I have never had anything happened.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
The way I got into even Moofon was my late
husband went to a it was the International UFO Congress
back in twenty fourteen, and he met the director and
assistant state director of Muffon at that conference and started going.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
To to the Moufon meetings. So about six months later
he asked me, says, would you just go to one
meeting with me?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And you know, being a skeptic and also being a cop,
I'm like, I don't know if I want to get
involved in that because I wasn't sure.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm thinking, and I hate to say it this way.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
But I was thinking tinfoil hats, I'm thinking just weird stuff.
So went to my first meeting and the speaker was
Kathleen Martin, and let me tell you, that was the
most amazing, awesome experience that I had. These folks are
science oriented, a lot of them are skeptics themselves, and
(12:57):
they're just they're trying to find the truth. And Kathleen
was an amazing speaker. So from there, then November of
twenty fourteen, Travis Walton had his first ever Skyfire summit
up in Hebrew, Arizona, and that weekend my husband, my
(13:19):
late husband, and I were asked to house three folks
that are going to speak at that conference.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And the people that we.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Housed was Peter Robbins, Richard Dolan, and the great late
Stanton Friedman.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The best of the best, Oh they were.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And let me tell you, from that day forward, I
just hit the door running and just got.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Into the move on.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I still haven't experienced anything, but there is just an
amazing amount of folks and all kinds of information out
there in the UFO community, and I'm real happy to
be part of it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now I'll tell you my interesting Stanton Friedman story of
Marianne and David when I was a twenty one year
reporter in Detroit. He was my first interview when he
came to town to speak to a group of professors
at a university and I asked my news director, can
(14:26):
I cover this tonight? And he said, no, I'm not
spending the overtime. Do it on your own, and I
said I will, so I did. I interviewed Stanton and
I stayed friends with him. Let's jump ahead until the
day he died. He was with me in Columbus, Ohio
at a live event on stage. On his way home,
he dies at the airport. So he was my first
(14:50):
radio interview. I was his last interviewer. Small world.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Miss him. I miss him a lot.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
He was I actually had lunch with him, Kathleen Myrsen
and Travis Walton once. It was just the four of
us sitting there was actually incredibly eye opening.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Did you ever talk about his gray basket?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No, we actually talked about Believe it or not.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
They were more interested in school shootings and school violence
because they found out I was a school resource officer
at the time, So the entire conversation was more about
my stuff rather than theirs. And it was incredible to
see people of that knowledge and that caliber be so
like more interested in what you have to say.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
It was.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It was quite eye opening.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So the event that you first came into with that
voice over nine one one, what do you think at
this point?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It was, Well, it I think it was a spirit.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
It really does like and I know it's it's still
kind of hard for me to say because I spent
my entire career being very clinical and very logical, and
there was a logical explanation to everything. But when you
run through every possible lead, the only thing that is left,
if you've ruled out everything, the only thing that's left
is the stuff that's unbelievable. And we now live in
(16:17):
a world where new things are being discovered every day.
Could it be just something that right now we think
of as being like a spirit or a ghost, But
maybe one hundred years for about we're going to look
at it as a normal, everyday occurrence.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mary Anne tell us about the UAPDSHPD dot com website.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Well, now, uap PD it stands for Unidentified Anomalist Phenomenon
PD for police department. If any law enforcement officer first
responder that has an encounter that has happened to them
and they have never spoken about it and they just
want to talk to someone, or even citizens that want
(17:00):
to see what ua p PD is all about.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Please go to.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
UAP dash pd dot com and it explains who we are,
what our mission is. Uh, it shows the the upcoming
events that we have with Dave and I presentations, and
it also has some of our podcasts that we have
(17:27):
done previously. So if somebody's like, well, what what is
Marianne and Dave all about? They can watch one of
our podcasts and see what we're doing and that we
are cops. We are you know, we've we've walked in
their shoes, we've we've been in the trenches all together,
and we understand what they're going through and the stigmas
(17:51):
and the especially the ridicule from either other officers or
like Dave, a supervisor, and we know what's going on.
So we would to have them come on to our
web page again UAP DASHPD dot com. Contact us and
I will give you, you know, a callback, I will
(18:12):
email you and then we can set up a time
and we would love to talk to you and you know, see.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
How much traffic do you get on that site.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, we really haven't gotten a whole lot. We've been
doing this for about two years now, and we appreciate
radio shows like yours where we can get the word out.
We've got about a little over ninety stories now within
the two years, but it's we think you and other
(18:47):
podcasters so we can get the stories, get our information
out and they can see who we are.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
You know, yes we are cops and we know what
you're going through.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
So we're hoping that we get more and more stories
out there because we know there's cops out there that
are probably hesitant to reach out and share their experiences.
But just today understand they need to understand that we
are very discreet and they can either remain totally anonymous
(19:23):
or they can identify themselves. It's up to them on
how far they want to go in telling the story,
or maybe they just says, hey, you know, thank you,
I just needed to hear it. So that's you know,
that's why we that's why we started this organization.
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