February 12, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and remote viewer Lyn Buchanan discuss his career as a military remote viewer, the efforts of Russia and other countries to develop their own remote viewers during the Cold War, and why training has continued to improve remote viewers' skills today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Lynn Buchanan with US served in the US military's Controlled
Remote Viewing Unit, Project Stargate, as both a viewer and
as a trainer. Having retired from military service, he now
lives in Alamgordo, New Mexico, where his company, Problems Solutions Innovations,
(00:25):
is providing both controlled remote viewing training and services. Linn
Welcome back to the show. How have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay? How about you? Last time? Oh, last time I
saw you, I was at death's door. I really honestly
didn't expect to live another month. And now then I'm
just I'm just kicking.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good for you, my friend. Yeah, you've had a chance
to work with some of the best Ingo Swan, Paul Smith,
Russell Tarbo. Oh, Yeah, the best of the best. How
did you get involved in remote viewing in the first place?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Then? I was working in Germany as a intercept operator
and an incident happened where they wanted me to write
a computer program that would tie the computers of twelve
(01:24):
different countries together to share information. I wrote the program,
and this other sergeant wanted to be the one who
wrote the program, and I got the job of doing it.
And so when we had the twelve generals from all
the different countries together to see the program, the other
(01:50):
sergeant came in and messed it up. And I got
flaming angry when I found out about it, and the
computers of all the entire field station and everything just
blew out. I've had this p K problem all of
(02:14):
my life. I get angry and things, yeah, yeah, and
especially electronics, And so I got flaming angry. And anyway,
General Stubblebin, who was head of the Intelligence and Security
(02:37):
Command for the US, had people looking for people who
could do things like that, and so one of them
happened to be in the room at the time. Uh
So I saw what happened and understood what happened and
reported me to the General, and so he took me
(03:02):
to Fort Meade and put me into this remote viewing unit. Now,
what he wanted to do was have me start a
unit that would learn how to destroy enemy computers or
with the end goal of controlling the enemy computers so
(03:24):
that if they fired a missile at US, we could
drop it into the sea or make it turn around
and go back at them.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What was this all happening to?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That was in ninety two, nineteen ninety two, not really
that long ago, No, not really. No, the remote Viewing
unit had been in operation for about ten years before
I got there.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh okay, and what a unit it was, wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It was? You know? They they sent me to the
unit and because they wouldn't fund Congress wouldn't fund the
thing to do control of anyway computers because they said, well,
let's mind control, and we're not going to have any
of that anymore. They got caught for that in the sixties.
(04:17):
And so he stepped me into the remote Viewing unit
and I went in. They read me on which is
you know, where they tell you what they really do,
not what they tell the public what they do. And
I thought, this is crazy. The military doesn't do psychic work.
(04:39):
It gets serious. And sure enough they did.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
In a big way too. Did you have this ability
then when you were a kid?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, It's been with me all my life.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, primarily instigated when when you showed you temper.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
The peak he does you know? Uh? And so I
have made it a lifelong habit to just sort of
laugh things off and not get angry.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
What did your parents say to you about this?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
My mother was all for it was she wasbury intuitive herself,
and my father just sort of denied the fact that
either one of us had any ability. He just he
didn't want to hear anything about it.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Did he think it was mumbo jumbo? Oh yeah, Well
we know better than that now, don't we.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Why do you think the military stopped the program? Or
at least we think they stopped it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, we think they stopped you. In Washington, d C.
They say there are two answers for any question you
ask of Washington, d C. One is politics, the other
is money. And when the Cold War ended, the money
was draining away, and so they had to get rid
(06:18):
of people. And you know, who are you going to
get rid of the field agent who's been out there
risking his life in the field for ten or fifteen years,
or those crazy psychics out at Fort made you get
rid of the crazy psychics? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Did you know my aunt that Ingo knew Shaffika curregula?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No, it didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They had a fond affection for each other, not that,
not ah, really not a dating thing, but just a respect.
But she was a psychiatrist and devoted her entire practice
to tell up the tell like anesis. And somehow I bet.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
She had fun with inga then Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Great time. But what was the was the military doing
this because the Russians might have been doing it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, the Russians had it first. Uh. Back when I
was in Russian school, one of my teachers had defected
from Russia and she had been in a unit. This
is before I knew anything about us. Happened in a
(07:37):
unit she had been in. The unit that she said
came from Adolf Hitler's project. Doctor Grunbaum. Green Tree, which
is the green Tree is the central figure of the
Jewish Kabbalah Hebrew mysticism, and Hitler was really into that.
(08:04):
And Hitler was developing psychic spies. And so when he
lost the war England France, Germany, England, France, England, France,
the US and Russia divided the spoils. Well, everybody wanted
(08:27):
the nuclear scientists and the rocketry. Nobody wanted doctor Grenbaum
except Russia. Russia took it and started developing it, and
by the sixties they were getting all of our top
secret information. We were losing our top secret information and
(08:52):
nobody could find out how. And finally a Russian colonel
in the case gb UH tried to defect and he
brought the paperwork that showed our intelligence services that they've
been using these sacic spies, and you know, everybody wanted
(09:13):
to laugh at that, but then they started reading the
documents and they realized, hey, this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Works and was pretty high, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh yeah, And so the you know, the intelligence service
didn't laugh all that often, and so they said, well, hey,
if it works, we got to have it too, And
that's what started the original UH unit that wound up
at Fort Meade.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Did they do some pretty remarkable things.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The Russians or the answers? The answer yes either way.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Of the remote viewers that we know of, who are
some of the best, the ones we know.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Joe mcmonagle, and well, let me say it this way.
Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses, and so who
is best determines is you know, any project determines the
(10:28):
needs is determined by the needs of the project. Because
on one project, one viewer maybe the one who gets
the answer every time, or the others don't or another
type of project, it'll be someone else. And so we
(10:53):
had one director who kept trying to pit us against
each other to see who was the best, and it
never worked because the answer to whose best was each
one of us at something.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Remarkable. Now, let's apply this to civilian use for a second, lend.
Is it still going on now professionally?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Sure? Yeah, and in fact it's spreading. I've been teaching
it ever since it became declassified, and now then many
of my students are out there teaching it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And I think Paul Smith was doing that too for
a while, wasn't he.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, and Dames and Dave Morehouse, and you should
see some of the work that the students are doing
these days. The International Remote Viewers Association, which i'm a
(12:01):
founding member of it as a board member of it,
now had a contest to see which teacher had the
best students and all this. And my student, guy named
Michael Ronaldi, took the picture of the top of a building,
(12:30):
and this was following the thing that Joe mcmonagall did
back in the military, and all he got was a
picture of the roof of the building, and from that
picture he drew the four plans of the building inside,
what was going on in each room, where the bathrooms were,
(12:54):
where the doorways were, and everything, and laid out the
four plans for that building. And you know this was
Joe mc monaco had done that with the boom or
submarine when they were developing that, and it had also
been done when rescuing General Doser from the Red Brigade
(13:15):
to get the floor plans of a building so that
the general could be rescued without getting him killed. And
nowadays we have some students that are doing a lot
better than we ever did in the military. I mean,
they are getting really good. Why is that, Well, you
(13:39):
can say Shelderrex hundredth monkey theory. You can say you
know better development because we're still learning a lot about it,
or you can say just hey, we're lucky to have
some really good people. We have found that the Englishwan
(14:04):
technique is not in and of itself psychic. What it
is is a methodology that teaches you how to use
what psychic ability you have. And now they're out in
the civilian arena, we're finding some really really good psychics
(14:24):
teaching them how to use it in a structured manner.
And you should see some of the work they're doing.
It is phenomenal, It really.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is, Linn. Can you remote view in the dream state?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Sure? Yeah, in fact most people do. I think.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
My daughter had a nine to eleven remote viewing episode.
Then she saw what happened. Oh yeah, she saw the
remnants of the ashes falling and everything and called me
up and described it. Well, this was before it happened,
and then what had happened. About a week or two later,
(15:03):
she called me back up and said, Dad, are you
watching television? Look what's going on? Yes, my dream, But
I think she remote viewed that, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And you know a lot of dreams are prophetic. Some
people make the mistake of saying I dreamed it, therefore
I caused it to happen, and that's not true. You know,
you can see the future. In fact, I forget where
(15:35):
the study was done, but I remember reading about a
study that had been done on remote viewers and psychics
on their brain waves, you know, the cat scans and everything, uh,
to see what parts of the brain are active and
(15:58):
when they're on target and correctly doing work. The same
parts of the brain that are active are the same
parts as when you're remembering something and so the end
result of that study was that we don't predict the future,
(16:21):
we remember it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
How do you train somebody then to be a remote viewer?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Pretty well, no, the training is slow in the controlled
remote viewing. Now, the controlled remote viewing is the military style,
vastly different from most of the things you find on
the internet where they say we're teaching you to remote
(16:51):
view and they will give you a take to listen
to and put your remote viewer, or you know, the
take you to a three day class and both you're
a remote viewer. The military method takes it well, it's
very easy, but it takes practice, practice, practice, because it
(17:17):
overcomes all of your natural tendencies to use logic, to
use theory and biases and all that, and it teaches
you how to get rid of all of those logical conclusions,
all of the biases that you have and everything and
(17:39):
just go for the pure truth that your subconscious mind knows.
And so it's a long process. You learn how to
do it, and then you practice and practice and practice
until you learn how to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Why does one become better than someone else?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
You practice, and you know, my students get tired of
asking questions and the answer being, oh, practice, practice, practice,
But it's very true. Like I say, the methods are simple,
but the practice is overcoming your natural human abilities and
(18:25):
your natural human tendencies to mess yourself up. And it's
an actual growth thing. It's very much a martial art.
You know how a black beilt person can be walking
(18:46):
along and all of a sudden they know there's danger
behind them and they react.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Lynn Buchanan with US served in the US military's Controlled
Remote Viewing Unit, Project Stargate, as both a viewer and
as a trainer. Having retired from military service, he now
lives in Alamgordo, New Mexico, where his company, Problems Solutions Innovations,
(00:25):
is providing both controlled remote viewing training and services. Linn
Welcome back to the show. How have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay? How about you? Last time? Oh, last time I
saw you, I was at death's door. I really honestly
didn't expect to live another month. And now then I'm
just I'm just kicking.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good for you, my friend. Yeah, you've had a chance
to work with some of the best Ingo Swan, Paul Smith,
Russell Tarbo. Oh, Yeah, the best of the best. How
did you get involved in remote viewing in the first place?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Then? I was working in Germany as a intercept operator
and an incident happened where they wanted me to write
a computer program that would tie the computers of twelve
(01:24):
different countries together to share information. I wrote the program,
and this other sergeant wanted to be the one who
wrote the program, and I got the job of doing it.
And so when we had the twelve generals from all
the different countries together to see the program, the other
(01:50):
sergeant came in and messed it up. And I got
flaming angry when I found out about it, and the
computers of all the entire field station and everything just
blew out. I've had this p K problem all of
(02:14):
my life. I get angry and things, yeah, yeah, and
especially electronics, And so I got flaming angry. And anyway,
General Stubblebin, who was head of the Intelligence and Security
(02:37):
Command for the US, had people looking for people who
could do things like that, and so one of them
happened to be in the room at the time. Uh
So I saw what happened and understood what happened and
reported me to the General, and so he took me
(03:02):
to Fort Meade and put me into this remote viewing unit. Now,
what he wanted to do was have me start a
unit that would learn how to destroy enemy computers or
with the end goal of controlling the enemy computers so
(03:24):
that if they fired a missile at US, we could
drop it into the sea or make it turn around
and go back at them.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What was this all happening to?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That was in ninety two, nineteen ninety two, not really
that long ago, No, not really. No, the remote Viewing
unit had been in operation for about ten years before
I got there.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh okay, and what a unit it was, wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It was? You know? They they sent me to the
unit and because they wouldn't fund Congress wouldn't fund the
thing to do control of anyway computers because they said, well,
let's mind control, and we're not going to have any
of that anymore. They got caught for that in the sixties.
(04:17):
And so he stepped me into the remote Viewing unit
and I went in. They read me on which is
you know, where they tell you what they really do,
not what they tell the public what they do. And
I thought, this is crazy. The military doesn't do psychic work.
(04:39):
It gets serious. And sure enough they did.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
In a big way too. Did you have this ability
then when you were a kid?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, It's been with me all my life.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, primarily instigated when when you showed you temper.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
The peak he does you know? Uh? And so I
have made it a lifelong habit to just sort of
laugh things off and not get angry.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
What did your parents say to you about this?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
My mother was all for it was she wasbury intuitive herself,
and my father just sort of denied the fact that
either one of us had any ability. He just he
didn't want to hear anything about it.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Did he think it was mumbo jumbo? Oh yeah, Well
we know better than that now, don't we.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Why do you think the military stopped the program? Or
at least we think they stopped it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, we think they stopped you. In Washington, d C.
They say there are two answers for any question you
ask of Washington, d C. One is politics, the other
is money. And when the Cold War ended, the money
was draining away, and so they had to get rid
(06:18):
of people. And you know, who are you going to
get rid of the field agent who's been out there
risking his life in the field for ten or fifteen years,
or those crazy psychics out at Fort made you get
rid of the crazy psychics? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Did you know my aunt that Ingo knew Shaffika curregula?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No, it didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They had a fond affection for each other, not that,
not ah, really not a dating thing, but just a respect.
But she was a psychiatrist and devoted her entire practice
to tell up the tell like anesis. And somehow I bet.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
She had fun with inga then Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Great time. But what was the was the military doing
this because the Russians might have been doing it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, the Russians had it first. Uh. Back when I
was in Russian school, one of my teachers had defected
from Russia and she had been in a unit. This
is before I knew anything about us. Happened in a
(07:37):
unit she had been in. The unit that she said
came from Adolf Hitler's project. Doctor Grunbaum. Green Tree, which
is the green Tree is the central figure of the
Jewish Kabbalah Hebrew mysticism, and Hitler was really into that.
(08:04):
And Hitler was developing psychic spies. And so when he
lost the war England France, Germany, England, France, England, France,
the US and Russia divided the spoils. Well, everybody wanted
(08:27):
the nuclear scientists and the rocketry. Nobody wanted doctor Grenbaum
except Russia. Russia took it and started developing it, and
by the sixties they were getting all of our top
secret information. We were losing our top secret information and
(08:52):
nobody could find out how. And finally a Russian colonel
in the case gb UH tried to defect and he
brought the paperwork that showed our intelligence services that they've
been using these sacic spies, and you know, everybody wanted
(09:13):
to laugh at that, but then they started reading the
documents and they realized, hey, this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Works and was pretty high, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh yeah, And so the you know, the intelligence service
didn't laugh all that often, and so they said, well, hey,
if it works, we got to have it too, And
that's what started the original UH unit that wound up
at Fort Meade.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Did they do some pretty remarkable things.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The Russians or the answers? The answer yes either way.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Of the remote viewers that we know of, who are
some of the best, the ones we know.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Joe mcmonagle, and well, let me say it this way.
Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses, and so who
is best determines is you know, any project determines the
(10:28):
needs is determined by the needs of the project. Because
on one project, one viewer maybe the one who gets
the answer every time, or the others don't or another
type of project, it'll be someone else. And so we
(10:53):
had one director who kept trying to pit us against
each other to see who was the best, and it
never worked because the answer to whose best was each
one of us at something.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Remarkable. Now, let's apply this to civilian use for a second, lend.
Is it still going on now professionally?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Sure? Yeah, and in fact it's spreading. I've been teaching
it ever since it became declassified, and now then many
of my students are out there teaching it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And I think Paul Smith was doing that too for
a while, wasn't he.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, and Dames and Dave Morehouse, and you should
see some of the work that the students are doing
these days. The International Remote Viewers Association, which i'm a
(12:01):
founding member of it as a board member of it,
now had a contest to see which teacher had the
best students and all this. And my student, guy named
Michael Ronaldi, took the picture of the top of a building,
(12:30):
and this was following the thing that Joe mcmonagall did
back in the military, and all he got was a
picture of the roof of the building, and from that
picture he drew the four plans of the building inside,
what was going on in each room, where the bathrooms were,
(12:54):
where the doorways were, and everything, and laid out the
four plans for that building. And you know this was
Joe mc monaco had done that with the boom or
submarine when they were developing that, and it had also
been done when rescuing General Doser from the Red Brigade
(13:15):
to get the floor plans of a building so that
the general could be rescued without getting him killed. And
nowadays we have some students that are doing a lot
better than we ever did in the military. I mean,
they are getting really good. Why is that, Well, you
(13:39):
can say Shelderrex hundredth monkey theory. You can say you
know better development because we're still learning a lot about it,
or you can say just hey, we're lucky to have
some really good people. We have found that the Englishwan
(14:04):
technique is not in and of itself psychic. What it
is is a methodology that teaches you how to use
what psychic ability you have. And now they're out in
the civilian arena, we're finding some really really good psychics
(14:24):
teaching them how to use it in a structured manner.
And you should see some of the work they're doing.
It is phenomenal, It really.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is, Linn. Can you remote view in the dream state?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Sure? Yeah, in fact most people do. I think.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
My daughter had a nine to eleven remote viewing episode.
Then she saw what happened. Oh yeah, she saw the
remnants of the ashes falling and everything and called me
up and described it. Well, this was before it happened,
and then what had happened. About a week or two later,
(15:03):
she called me back up and said, Dad, are you
watching television? Look what's going on? Yes, my dream, But
I think she remote viewed that, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And you know a lot of dreams are prophetic. Some
people make the mistake of saying I dreamed it, therefore
I caused it to happen, and that's not true. You know,
you can see the future. In fact, I forget where
(15:35):
the study was done, but I remember reading about a
study that had been done on remote viewers and psychics
on their brain waves, you know, the cat scans and everything, uh,
to see what parts of the brain are active and
(15:58):
when they're on target and correctly doing work. The same
parts of the brain that are active are the same
parts as when you're remembering something and so the end
result of that study was that we don't predict the future,
(16:21):
we remember it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
How do you train somebody then to be a remote viewer?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Pretty well, no, the training is slow in the controlled
remote viewing. Now, the controlled remote viewing is the military style,
vastly different from most of the things you find on
the internet where they say we're teaching you to remote
(16:51):
view and they will give you a take to listen
to and put your remote viewer, or you know, the
take you to a three day class and both you're
a remote viewer. The military method takes it well, it's
very easy, but it takes practice, practice, practice, because it
(17:17):
overcomes all of your natural tendencies to use logic, to
use theory and biases and all that, and it teaches
you how to get rid of all of those logical conclusions,
all of the biases that you have and everything and
(17:39):
just go for the pure truth that your subconscious mind knows.
And so it's a long process. You learn how to
do it, and then you practice and practice and practice
until you learn how to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Why does one become better than someone else?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
You practice, and you know, my students get tired of
asking questions and the answer being, oh, practice, practice, practice,
But it's very true. Like I say, the methods are simple,
but the practice is overcoming your natural human abilities and
(18:25):
your natural human tendencies to mess yourself up. And it's
an actual growth thing. It's very much a martial art.
You know how a black beilt person can be walking
(18:46):
along and all of a sudden they know there's danger
behind them and they react.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
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