October 27, 2024 • 12 mins
Guest host Rich Berra and horror expert Chris Alexander discuss some of Hollywood's spookiest offerings as Halloween approaches.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So, Chris, what are some of the best devilish horror movies?
How about the worst? And talk about the curse of
the Devil? When you make a movie about the devil?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you know it's funny because
a lot of this, of course is this hyper bowl
because I mean, I'm an agostic myself, so of course
I don't believe unless I see and I'm not alone.
But through share coincidence, a lot of especially American films
dealing with Satan, dealing with the Devil, seemed to have
(00:34):
a lot of bad juju going around during the making
of these pictures. Are the ensuing release of them. And
let's talk before we go to the ess. Let's talk
a little bit about again about Rosemary's Maybe, which would
keep riffing on maybe with good reason because it's a masterpiece.
But again produced by William Cassell, who was a staunch Catholic,
so he was apprehensive right from the get go about
adapting n Eleven's book the screen, but he went along
(00:58):
with it because Roman Polanski was this hot Polish director
in Hollywood. This was his big breakthrough movie and everyone
wanted a piece of him. So Castle helped this thing
get into production, and the movie gets made and it
is a great movie that it is, and almost immediately
Castle has a massive heart attack and almost dies and
it's hospitalized. I mean, of course, believe it's because he
(01:20):
danced with the devil making this picture. Polansky laughed it off, said, Oh,
that's just that's just Bill Castle being Bill Castle, superstitious
to his core. Ha ha ha. Well we know what
happened to Roman Polanski. Not even two years later, after
the release of Rosemary's Baby, his beautiful wife Sharon Tate
was home alone in their Hollywood Hills home, and of
(01:43):
course Charles Manson's followers were dispatched by Manson to go
to the house of what he thought was somebody that
he knew that had flighted him, having no idea that
Polansky and Suarantate were living in this home, they broke
into the home and one of the guys who wouldn't
be assassin in texts, he announced loudly, I'm the devil
and I'm here to do the devil's work, and then
to butchering the entire group of friends, including Tate, and
(02:06):
we know that that was the end of the Innocence
In the late nineteen sixties, almost immediately Lansky was accused
of being in league with the devil because of Rosemary's Baby,
and accused of actually having something to do with his
wife's murder. Of course, that was completely debugged very soon after.
But Rosemary's Baby always has that heavy kind of weight
to it because.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I wonder, that is, if that didn't happen, if there
wasn't the Manson connection, would we still look at it
as a masterpiece or with that?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think I think so, because you know, I have children,
I've showed them. I showed my oldest son Rosemary's Baby.
He just came out of and blown away. Having no
idea about any the Landscare or any of the links.
I think it stands alone perfectly, but having that little
extra added mythough surround it just gives it a little
more gravity. Thinking with the Exorcist, which again, as we know,
changed a lot when it came to the genre in
(02:54):
the seventies, not just how it was made, how it
was structured, but the kind of visceral nature of it
Wills Mare's Baby's verute. That's just just not so much.
We see everything and the Exorcist heads rotating chrismal language,
the language exactly. That was a big, big deal. Then, yeah, language,
that's what got it. It's our rating more than anything.
But it was plagued by by by misfortune. Jack McGowan,
(03:18):
one of the actress in the films, died in the
middle of production. Melan Burston's back was broken when she
was thrown against the wall during one of the satanic scenes.
Little Linda Blair's grandfather died in the middle of it.
The entire set burned down while they were making it,
and they had to install production for another six months
while they rebuilt it, and the carpenter on set it
(03:40):
was building a set chopped off his finger. I mean,
the list is long.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
A lot of.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Misfortune played the Exorcist. Now there's this. I think if
he really did a tally on any Hollywood movie being
made up that scope, you'd see a lot of misfortune
as well. But all these things when maybe you know,
maybe there's something to it. I mean, you know again
an agnostic, so maybe there is something.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, when you look around, point Chris at some point,
Chris the Agnostic, and you have to go like, okay,
that's not all coincidental. I want to take a couple
of phone calls because people can't wait to talk to
you too, so I know you don't mind talking to
your people on the wildcart Line. Let's talk to Randy
in Ridgeway, Virginia, who says that the scariest movie of
(04:18):
all time Barnunn is The Exorcist. Welcome to Coast to Coast, Randy,
and you're talking to Chris Alexander.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, good morning, gentlemen. I was driving a truck back
out of New York, out of Queens, New York. I
was eighteen years old, and I was in New Hampshire
and I had to deliver with the load. That was
dark at night, you know, around this time of the year,
and I've seen The Exorcist was playing in the movie theater,
(04:47):
so I could park there and whatnot, and I went
in and I saw it with the huge screen in
the sound in the movie theater. When I went back
out to that truck and got in it, you know,
always got coffee and whatnot, and I had some coffee
and I was sitting and going down the road and
I was so freaked out by it that I had
(05:09):
to go all the way down to they used to
be toldos on the Connecticut pip. You had to stop
pay tolls, probably the last one down by Greenwich before
I was game enough, you miles, We'll say to get
out and relieve myself. That's there. It was.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You know, you bring up, you bring up, you bring
up a good point. I just have to just interject there,
because you know, there's a whole way for people that
only saw the exor System. We're raised on seeing it
on television.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
One of them.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, but a lot of people, younger people especially, that
it's not that scary. But to Randy's point, if you
have never seen The Exorcist in the theater, you haven't
really seen the Exorcist. I just actually went and saw
it theatrically about two years ago. I was a thirty
five millimeter France. I was introdu I had never seen
it theatrically, and it was like seeing it for the
(06:03):
first time. When you're trapped in that dark theater with
those images and that sound design, it's like you're in
a nightmare that you cannot escape from, and it does.
It sinks into your bones and it sticks with you
and me too. I left the building, Eric walk out
into the night a grown ass man, and I was really,
really deeply unnerved. It still has that power.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I wondered about that. I was thinking about most of
these scary classics that I've seen. I saw on my parents'
television in their kitchen, and you know, the lights are on,
but that theater experience of something like that would completely
froy my brain. Now. I know we talked about the
Twilight Zone. I want to kind of bring it forward
a little bit to modern times. Twilight Zone. Now we
(06:51):
move forward to the modern times and we have Netflix
in Black Mirror, which I think is a nice homage
to the Twilight Zone in a certain way. I'm wondering
what you think of that series on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm so glad to hear you say that, man, I honestly,
I really really am, because I I'm over the mind.
Because in the Twilight Zone, Purist and the Twilights won't
come back. Many times came that in the eighties. There
was also Twilights on the movie, which was a bit
of a failure. The eighties show had some moments, but
it wasn't the Twilight So it came back in the
early two thousands with Forrest Whitaker, Complete Bomb, and then
recently Jordan Peele the Directed get Out, which you've mentioned earlier,
(07:25):
tried it again called The Twilight Zone, him dressing up
as Rod Sterling. It's like, you can't go back, No,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I watched it. I didn't love it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, I couldn't get through it. But maybe it was
called something else, but I don't know about that. But
to me, the air apparent of Rod Serling, the air
apparent of the Twilight Zone is absolutely Black Mirror. It's
the only show of that kind that I feel is
evolving everything that Sirling was saying in those first you know,
that first wave of the Zone. So I'm a huge
Black Mirror fan, and.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's got sort of these themes that kind of run
through some of the shows. But if I wouldn't tell
anybody to watch something that is terrifying, it's the one
with John Hamm I think called Christmas Eve, and it's terrified.
It's terrifying for a completely different reason than you think.
It's not jump scare. It's just if you imagine yourself
and the hell that they put the people in, like
(08:17):
the literal hell that they put them in, it is
it'll mess with your head for months. I really recommend that.
And the scene it completely changes gears right in the
middle too, doesn't it absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And it's I mean, that's that's testament to the entire
show though. There's a level of sophistication going on there
that's you know, it's not it's not just showing you
the obvious. It's gonna it's making it's a more immersive.
It makes you think, it makes you do a little
bit of work. I think that's why it's so successful.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's another series that I wanted to bring up to
that I thought was one of the best scary movie
or series I've ever seen, And actually I was able
to watch it and with a surround sound at my house,
you know, with the TV on, And that's The Haunting
of Hillhouse. Did you watch that?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, Mike flanagain to me, you know, he's one of
the great modern masters of horror. Haunting of Hillhouse masterpiece
based on the Shirley Jackson novel, a remake of the
Robert Wise nineteen sixty three movie The Haunting, absolutely nerve shredding.
I watched that. Here I am a man of now fifty.
A couple of years ago, sitting in my living room
by myself watching that show and I forget what episode
(09:23):
it was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It was.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
We're halfway into the show and it breaks me out
so much I was afraid to walk into my bedroom.
And when you're a horror fan like me and you're
that jaded, cynical, you're always trying to chase the dragon
and try to find those movies or entertainments that make
you feel like you're a six year old kid again
seeing weird stuff on the TV late at night and
not understanding what you're seeing. And it's very rare that
you experience that, and I experienced it with the hoting
(09:46):
of Hillhouse and Mike findinggainst other movies, those TV shows
like Haunting a Black manor has its great moment and
a money mate called Midnight Mass which is sort of
his riff on Stephen King. Salem's Lot hugely recommended as
well and very very scary.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Who did you watch the new Salem's Lot that's on us?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, And actually I liked it more than most people.
It's my favorite Stephen King book first of all, and
the first version of it, which was a Mad for
GV mini series directed by the Texas Chancellor Maskers Kobe Hooper,
starring James Mason and Reggieinaldo, is one of my favorite
vampire films of all times. So far was high and
I didn't hate the new one. I didn't didn't think
it was spectacular, but it was close enough to the
(10:26):
book and had a lot of really interesting King King
esque elements in it that I found that better than
I thought i'd find it. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I think it started off good for me, but then
it's almost like they raced through the plot to get
to the end scene.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, here's what happened. Because you like the mini series,
which was, you know, a four hour picture, a three
and a half hour picture. This director shot a three
hour movie and the studio hacked it down thinking they
were going to put a two hour picture, and so
what we get is the cliff Notes version of the
movie that he shot. So that feels like rush because
it is rushed.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, it feels like it. It's because it's not rushed
at the very beginning, because you're seeing all the nice
foliage of Maine and all that, and then all of
a sudden, boom plot goes into like it's almost like
I hit the one one and a half time speed
on my I exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Suddenly it's like Vampire's Vampire Dead and that different end. Yeah,
it goes really racist to the finish line, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Do you know that the one they haven't gotten right yet?
And it is my favorite Stephen King book is The
Stand And I've seen them do that twice now on
TV and it's fallen. It's almost seemed kitchy to me.
With such a incredible, incredibly deep story.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
What a what a daunting book to adapt? I mean,
you need the thing is you need that space. That's
why I keep sending up on television, is that you
need that that room to adapt it. And it's so
many moving parts to the Stand. I don't know how
it could ever be successfully, truly successfully adapted. But I
am a fan of the first version of it, even
though he has had its kitch especially with the dated
special effects directed by Nick Garris. I think there's some
(12:00):
great moments in there, and it captures the vibe of
the book. It's not every specific.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess I can agree
with you on that one. What about Oh my gosh,
what Steph King. I'm just gonna ask you about I
have to come back to that where I was. I
was going somewhere with the stand darn it, that was
so good.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, there's so many hey, there's so many Stephen King books,
oh my gosh, and so many adaptations good and not
so good, that it's hard to you know, your brain
can get the scrambled next them.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, you were talking about the depth of the stand
in how it's like such it's got so many moving
parts that it would be hard to get that right.
But yet I feel like the made for TV version
of it did kind of get it right.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
So, Chris, what are some of the best devilish horror movies?
How about the worst? And talk about the curse of
the Devil? When you make a movie about the devil?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you know it's funny because
a lot of this, of course is this hyper bowl
because I mean, I'm an agostic myself, so of course
I don't believe unless I see and I'm not alone.
But through share coincidence, a lot of especially American films
dealing with Satan, dealing with the Devil, seemed to have
(00:34):
a lot of bad juju going around during the making
of these pictures. Are the ensuing release of them. And
let's talk before we go to the ess. Let's talk
a little bit about again about Rosemary's Maybe, which would
keep riffing on maybe with good reason because it's a masterpiece.
But again produced by William Cassell, who was a staunch Catholic,
so he was apprehensive right from the get go about
adapting n Eleven's book the screen, but he went along
(00:58):
with it because Roman Polanski was this hot Polish director
in Hollywood. This was his big breakthrough movie and everyone
wanted a piece of him. So Castle helped this thing
get into production, and the movie gets made and it
is a great movie that it is, and almost immediately
Castle has a massive heart attack and almost dies and
it's hospitalized. I mean, of course, believe it's because he
(01:20):
danced with the devil making this picture. Polansky laughed it off, said, Oh,
that's just that's just Bill Castle being Bill Castle, superstitious
to his core. Ha ha ha. Well we know what
happened to Roman Polanski. Not even two years later, after
the release of Rosemary's Baby, his beautiful wife Sharon Tate
was home alone in their Hollywood Hills home, and of
(01:43):
course Charles Manson's followers were dispatched by Manson to go
to the house of what he thought was somebody that
he knew that had flighted him, having no idea that
Polansky and Suarantate were living in this home, they broke
into the home and one of the guys who wouldn't
be assassin in texts, he announced loudly, I'm the devil
and I'm here to do the devil's work, and then
to butchering the entire group of friends, including Tate, and
(02:06):
we know that that was the end of the Innocence
In the late nineteen sixties, almost immediately Lansky was accused
of being in league with the devil because of Rosemary's Baby,
and accused of actually having something to do with his
wife's murder. Of course, that was completely debugged very soon after.
But Rosemary's Baby always has that heavy kind of weight
to it because.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I wonder, that is, if that didn't happen, if there
wasn't the Manson connection, would we still look at it
as a masterpiece or with that?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think I think so, because you know, I have children,
I've showed them. I showed my oldest son Rosemary's Baby.
He just came out of and blown away. Having no
idea about any the Landscare or any of the links.
I think it stands alone perfectly, but having that little
extra added mythough surround it just gives it a little
more gravity. Thinking with the Exorcist, which again, as we know,
changed a lot when it came to the genre in
(02:54):
the seventies, not just how it was made, how it
was structured, but the kind of visceral nature of it
Wills Mare's Baby's verute. That's just just not so much.
We see everything and the Exorcist heads rotating chrismal language,
the language exactly. That was a big, big deal. Then, yeah, language,
that's what got it. It's our rating more than anything.
But it was plagued by by by misfortune. Jack McGowan,
(03:18):
one of the actress in the films, died in the
middle of production. Melan Burston's back was broken when she
was thrown against the wall during one of the satanic scenes.
Little Linda Blair's grandfather died in the middle of it.
The entire set burned down while they were making it,
and they had to install production for another six months
while they rebuilt it, and the carpenter on set it
(03:40):
was building a set chopped off his finger. I mean,
the list is long.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
A lot of.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Misfortune played the Exorcist. Now there's this. I think if
he really did a tally on any Hollywood movie being
made up that scope, you'd see a lot of misfortune
as well. But all these things when maybe you know,
maybe there's something to it. I mean, you know again
an agnostic, so maybe there is something.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, when you look around, point Chris at some point,
Chris the Agnostic, and you have to go like, okay,
that's not all coincidental. I want to take a couple
of phone calls because people can't wait to talk to
you too, so I know you don't mind talking to
your people on the wildcart Line. Let's talk to Randy
in Ridgeway, Virginia, who says that the scariest movie of
(04:18):
all time Barnunn is The Exorcist. Welcome to Coast to Coast, Randy,
and you're talking to Chris Alexander.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, good morning, gentlemen. I was driving a truck back
out of New York, out of Queens, New York. I
was eighteen years old, and I was in New Hampshire
and I had to deliver with the load. That was
dark at night, you know, around this time of the year,
and I've seen The Exorcist was playing in the movie theater,
(04:47):
so I could park there and whatnot, and I went
in and I saw it with the huge screen in
the sound in the movie theater. When I went back
out to that truck and got in it, you know,
always got coffee and whatnot, and I had some coffee
and I was sitting and going down the road and
I was so freaked out by it that I had
(05:09):
to go all the way down to they used to
be toldos on the Connecticut pip. You had to stop
pay tolls, probably the last one down by Greenwich before
I was game enough, you miles, We'll say to get
out and relieve myself. That's there. It was.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You know, you bring up, you bring up, you bring
up a good point. I just have to just interject there,
because you know, there's a whole way for people that
only saw the exor System. We're raised on seeing it
on television.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
One of them.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, but a lot of people, younger people especially, that
it's not that scary. But to Randy's point, if you
have never seen The Exorcist in the theater, you haven't
really seen the Exorcist. I just actually went and saw
it theatrically about two years ago. I was a thirty
five millimeter France. I was introdu I had never seen
it theatrically, and it was like seeing it for the
(06:03):
first time. When you're trapped in that dark theater with
those images and that sound design, it's like you're in
a nightmare that you cannot escape from, and it does.
It sinks into your bones and it sticks with you
and me too. I left the building, Eric walk out
into the night a grown ass man, and I was really,
really deeply unnerved. It still has that power.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I wondered about that. I was thinking about most of
these scary classics that I've seen. I saw on my parents'
television in their kitchen, and you know, the lights are on,
but that theater experience of something like that would completely
froy my brain. Now. I know we talked about the
Twilight Zone. I want to kind of bring it forward
a little bit to modern times. Twilight Zone. Now we
(06:51):
move forward to the modern times and we have Netflix
in Black Mirror, which I think is a nice homage
to the Twilight Zone in a certain way. I'm wondering
what you think of that series on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm so glad to hear you say that, man, I honestly,
I really really am, because I I'm over the mind.
Because in the Twilight Zone, Purist and the Twilights won't
come back. Many times came that in the eighties. There
was also Twilights on the movie, which was a bit
of a failure. The eighties show had some moments, but
it wasn't the Twilight So it came back in the
early two thousands with Forrest Whitaker, Complete Bomb, and then
recently Jordan Peele the Directed get Out, which you've mentioned earlier,
(07:25):
tried it again called The Twilight Zone, him dressing up
as Rod Sterling. It's like, you can't go back, No,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I watched it. I didn't love it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, I couldn't get through it. But maybe it was
called something else, but I don't know about that. But
to me, the air apparent of Rod Serling, the air
apparent of the Twilight Zone is absolutely Black Mirror. It's
the only show of that kind that I feel is
evolving everything that Sirling was saying in those first you know,
that first wave of the Zone. So I'm a huge
Black Mirror fan, and.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's got sort of these themes that kind of run
through some of the shows. But if I wouldn't tell
anybody to watch something that is terrifying, it's the one
with John Hamm I think called Christmas Eve, and it's terrified.
It's terrifying for a completely different reason than you think.
It's not jump scare. It's just if you imagine yourself
and the hell that they put the people in, like
(08:17):
the literal hell that they put them in, it is
it'll mess with your head for months. I really recommend that.
And the scene it completely changes gears right in the
middle too, doesn't it absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And it's I mean, that's that's testament to the entire
show though. There's a level of sophistication going on there
that's you know, it's not it's not just showing you
the obvious. It's gonna it's making it's a more immersive.
It makes you think, it makes you do a little
bit of work. I think that's why it's so successful.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's another series that I wanted to bring up to
that I thought was one of the best scary movie
or series I've ever seen, And actually I was able
to watch it and with a surround sound at my house,
you know, with the TV on, And that's The Haunting
of Hillhouse. Did you watch that?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, Mike flanagain to me, you know, he's one of
the great modern masters of horror. Haunting of Hillhouse masterpiece
based on the Shirley Jackson novel, a remake of the
Robert Wise nineteen sixty three movie The Haunting, absolutely nerve shredding.
I watched that. Here I am a man of now fifty.
A couple of years ago, sitting in my living room
by myself watching that show and I forget what episode
(09:23):
it was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It was.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
We're halfway into the show and it breaks me out
so much I was afraid to walk into my bedroom.
And when you're a horror fan like me and you're
that jaded, cynical, you're always trying to chase the dragon
and try to find those movies or entertainments that make
you feel like you're a six year old kid again
seeing weird stuff on the TV late at night and
not understanding what you're seeing. And it's very rare that
you experience that, and I experienced it with the hoting
(09:46):
of Hillhouse and Mike findinggainst other movies, those TV shows
like Haunting a Black manor has its great moment and
a money mate called Midnight Mass which is sort of
his riff on Stephen King. Salem's Lot hugely recommended as
well and very very scary.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Who did you watch the new Salem's Lot that's on us?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, And actually I liked it more than most people.
It's my favorite Stephen King book first of all, and
the first version of it, which was a Mad for
GV mini series directed by the Texas Chancellor Maskers Kobe Hooper,
starring James Mason and Reggieinaldo, is one of my favorite
vampire films of all times. So far was high and
I didn't hate the new one. I didn't didn't think
it was spectacular, but it was close enough to the
(10:26):
book and had a lot of really interesting King King
esque elements in it that I found that better than
I thought i'd find it. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I think it started off good for me, but then
it's almost like they raced through the plot to get
to the end scene.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, here's what happened. Because you like the mini series,
which was, you know, a four hour picture, a three
and a half hour picture. This director shot a three
hour movie and the studio hacked it down thinking they
were going to put a two hour picture, and so
what we get is the cliff Notes version of the
movie that he shot. So that feels like rush because
it is rushed.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, it feels like it. It's because it's not rushed
at the very beginning, because you're seeing all the nice
foliage of Maine and all that, and then all of
a sudden, boom plot goes into like it's almost like
I hit the one one and a half time speed
on my I exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Suddenly it's like Vampire's Vampire Dead and that different end. Yeah,
it goes really racist to the finish line, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Do you know that the one they haven't gotten right yet?
And it is my favorite Stephen King book is The
Stand And I've seen them do that twice now on
TV and it's fallen. It's almost seemed kitchy to me.
With such a incredible, incredibly deep story.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
What a what a daunting book to adapt? I mean,
you need the thing is you need that space. That's
why I keep sending up on television, is that you
need that that room to adapt it. And it's so
many moving parts to the Stand. I don't know how
it could ever be successfully, truly successfully adapted. But I
am a fan of the first version of it, even
though he has had its kitch especially with the dated
special effects directed by Nick Garris. I think there's some
(12:00):
great moments in there, and it captures the vibe of
the book. It's not every specific.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess I can agree
with you on that one. What about Oh my gosh,
what Steph King. I'm just gonna ask you about I
have to come back to that where I was. I
was going somewhere with the stand darn it, that was
so good.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, there's so many hey, there's so many Stephen King books,
oh my gosh, and so many adaptations good and not
so good, that it's hard to you know, your brain
can get the scrambled next them.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, you were talking about the depth of the stand
in how it's like such it's got so many moving
parts that it would be hard to get that right.
But yet I feel like the made for TV version
of it did kind of get it right.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
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