May 5, 2026 • 19 mins
George Noory and author Marshall Masters discuss the threat of space rocks and other interstellar objects that could strike Earth, the recent increase in objects in space getting close to the planet, and how to prepare for potentially catastrophic events.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noriy with you.
Marshall Masters back with us Planet X and a Bureau researcher,
radio personality himself formercy and in science features news producer.
He first observed the Bureau on December twenty six, twenty twelve,
and he and his team have made hundreds more observations
in the months following. Marshall has written extensive books addressing
(00:27):
Earth changes, space threats, and sustainable survival strategies and technologies.
One of his many books Revelation and Planet X The
Colburne Bible Indigo Connection. Marshall, welcome, my friend, how you
ben Okay, good to be back you too. What got
you interested in Planet X in the first place?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We were trying to this was back in about nineteen
ninety nine and I was with a couple of other
people and we're trying to figure out global warming. And
that's what indirectly led us to Planet X. Was was
what we wanted is find was was global warming happening
(01:13):
elsewhere in other on other bodies that had an atmosphere,
And that's what we found in that particular year, the
warming on Mars was amazing and to a very large extent,
so you kind of you know, I just say, I
(01:35):
walked straight backwards into it and been there ever since.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It was a great way to walk into it. Why
isn't mainstream science jumped up on.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
This mainstream science with the fireballs right now? Because we're
seeing something new, that's what really got their attention. They're
groping at it. They don't understand. They do notice that
something has changed with fireballs. And I have just put
(02:09):
up an article that went up this weekend signs one thirteen.
A new threat has emerged and this media attention and
it is I haven't seen media attention like this before.
But then again, we're seeing something new and.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We'll get into these fireballs in a big way. Are
you scared about them?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, I think they need to be a concern because
we're seeing a growing trend towards bigger. You know, the
total number of fireballs hasn't changed that dramatically, not enough
for the media to be playing as much attention to
it is not what they're seeing that's new is what
(02:59):
we call. We've created a new category, huge event travel distance,
And what we do is we follow fireballs because this
gave us a way to map the trajectory of Nemesis
(03:21):
as it goes around our son. Nemesis is the smaller
brown dwarf star in orbit around our son, and it's
knocking out fireballs through the Nemesis cloud. And we've been
able to track this very clearly. Not meteorites, shooting stars.
Those are beautiful and I enjoy those, but we just
(03:44):
go with fireballs. We call them the smokers, all right.
And there's all of the data, and we get this
from the AMS, and they're a great institution, multi state,
huge and total events now total events, and these categories,
(04:09):
these three categories have remained the same for us since
we started this series back in twenty fifteen. All right,
And we have two basic kind of fireballs we're tracking,
and we just nicknamed them skimmers and plungers. The skimmers
(04:33):
are on the AMS American Medior Society. These are multi state,
multi country fireballs. They have a flat trajectory and they
go a long distance, and they are seen in multiple
states and they'll cross country boundaries and be seen in
multiple multiple countries. Now, what we're seeing so far this
(05:01):
year is in March and April, all of a sudden,
we have a major uptick the year. In January and
February started out pretty much neutral, kind of in fact,
you know, within the natural variability of previous years. But
(05:24):
in March, boom, we have a big uptick in multi
state And these are the categories of ams uses for reporting.
Then the plungers, as we call them, are huge events,
and these are large rocks and they have a very
steep trajectory, so they're coming more straight down into an area.
(05:49):
And the result is there's a lot of reporting because
they're within a narrow geographic range. But within that range,
it's a very bright, very noticeable event gets everyone's attention.
So in early March, we had what we call the
(06:11):
twenty twenty six Ohio bull llide. It was reported in
multiple states and it created a blast wave and there
were some meteorites that did impact. Now, this is the
one that got everyone's attention. It got our attention for sure.
(06:33):
What when we went into March of this year, what
stunned us is that it set an all time high
for these huge event fireballs. And this for us goes
back over ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And then explain Marsha what the fireballs are.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, let's take we have space rocks and let's work
them from size up. So you have shooting stars and
these are the little tiny ones, and then you have, uh,
a fireball. A fireball is going to be like a
(07:18):
small rock. Then you get into a bull eyde. Now
you're starting to get into fist size objects and the
difference between a fireball. A fireball is going to smoke
as it goes across the sky and it's going to flash.
A bulllide takes that to the next step because it
(07:40):
detonates and you hear it, you hear the boom.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Does it blow up?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, they blow up, and then you have a super
bull lide and a super bull eyde. You have the flash,
you have the boom, but you also have a pressure
wave that comes in. Now the twenty thirteen Chilia blints
(08:09):
that happened in Russia, that was a super bull eyed.
It caused a lot of injuries because people in their
homes saw the flash, they heard the boom, and they
went to go see what it was. So they were
looking out their windows and that's when the pressure wave,
you know, this huge push of wind slammed into all
(08:33):
these buildings and blew the glass into people's faces. Thankfully
nobody was killed in that event, and it was but
a lot of people were injured. And to give it
kind of a perspective, if we're looking at this recent
(08:54):
event that just happened, the Ohio bullllyed March, the Ohio
bullet in terms of mass, all right, just the physical
size of the object was the Ohio bull light was
five percent of Chilia Blinsk in twenty thirteen, to give
(09:15):
you the idea.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So that's small.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's small, but it's still big enough to make a
boom and to get a lot of people's attention. And
there were people that felt that they had within a
narrow range that there had been this pressure wave when.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
That object Marshall blew up over Russia. How big was that?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh, that thing was probably the size of a.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Small car, which isn't really that big.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It was a big It was big. The Chilia blink
That was a large rock probably I don't know, about
five feet in diameter.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You consider that big.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Then, yeah, it hit, it came down. It could do
a lot of damage. If it had that thing could
have really done a lot more damage in the other place,
and we tend to think of these things as being
really massive, you know, because that's what we always see
(10:27):
in the movie. But what we're seeing here these fireballs.
They're big enough to detonate and you hear a boom.
That's what's really important. It's the bulllids that are the boomers,
all right, and super bull lights add that add a
pressure wave to it. But what happened with this one
(10:53):
and all of the fireballs since then, because what we're
seeing is mainstream is reporting fireballs and they're groping for
answers to it, to try and explain all of a sudden,
why are we seeing these fireballs? Why are they getting
our attention? And when we got the data in and
(11:17):
as we put up in this article, is that the
huge event travel distance. For over a decade, all we've
been reporting are the skimmers with the flat trajectory, and
the huge events are the plungers with the steep trajectory.
(11:38):
Now what we have are rocks that are doing their hybrid.
They really are doing both, and so we call that
huge event travel distance.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And do we see them only when they come through
the atmosphere?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, when they're coming in and you know when they're
falling to Earth, that's when we're going to see them. Otherwise,
if they're up in space, we're not going to nothing's
going to happen. The reason why we see them is
the ablation, all right, and they're burning as they come in.
They're entering the atmosphere, they detonate, So we're seeing these events.
(12:22):
But if they're not dealing coming through the atmosphere, we're
not going to see them. They're up there, they're all
over the place. But this new trend with huge event
travel distance, this is the reason why the media has
they've you know instinctively, you know, like a dog chasing
(12:45):
an ambulance, and they've instinctively go, well, on a second,
what's happening. There's something different here with fireballs, and that's
what's really getting their attention. And it is this new
new hybrid category that just popped up this month of
what we call huge event travel distance. So these are
(13:10):
really these are large rocks, and even though they're plunging,
but they're not necessarily plunging, the angle of attack is different.
They're traveling much further. And what we show is we
take the raw data that we're using from ams and
(13:33):
we put up screen captures of the raw data, and
we showed in January where the huge event travel distance
covered multiple countries.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Where they coming from, though Marshall is did something blow up?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well? Where they're coming from is what we're seeing is
and what we say in the article is Nemesis is
now heading south and it's going to pass over our
heads and then eventually pass between Mars and Jupiter. And
(14:15):
the interesting thing is this is something new but something old.
From the very beginning, our biggest concern is that Nemesis
is starting to knock rocks in our direction. Think of
as like billiards.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Are these rocks kind of following Nemesis? Is that why
they're coming this way?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
They're following. Yes, it's dragging rocks, but it's also knocking
rocks ahead of it. So that is what is happening
right now. It's passing through an area of small asteroids
out there in space, and it's starting to knock them
like a queue ball on the billiard table. And that's
(15:03):
the reason why this is a new trend we're getting.
Up to this point, it's been very familiar, very consistent
with what we've always been seeing. But now, like I said,
we have this new hybrid category that just hit for March,
and in March, you can when you look at the
(15:25):
huge travel distance, you can see it's amazing. This new
kind of fireball is really dominating. Is more of this
than the previous kind. So that's what's happening, is that Nemesis,
this brown dwarf star that's in orbit around our sun,
(15:50):
has already completed its perihelion. That was its closest distance
to the Sun, and that was coming up from the
southern sky and now it's starting its app helium leg
It started that last year and it's going south and
it's as it's doing, it's starting to knock rocks in
(16:14):
our direction. Now the question is is how intense is
this going to get? Is this going to continue or
will it debate? And you know, we're really with this.
We're seeing something new, so we can't forecast it, but
it's very, very much real. This is the reason why
(16:36):
the media is all of a sudden so interested.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Are you concerned about these bullines or Super Bowl lightes?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes, because it's a pattern we're seeing, not necessarily that
much more. We're seeing more, but it's it varies depending
on where Nemesis is and where we're at are this
(17:07):
new hybrid kind that's what really works because the trend is,
especially since March is getting bigger, so we're getting bigger
space rocks, and that's the overall trend. So I think
by the end of the year, in the last quarter,
(17:28):
if there's going to be impact events, that would be
more likely it would come in the last quarter. That's
the higher period. Right now we're going you know, we're
just now into May, going into June. This is the
low point seasonally in the year, always has been. These
are the lowest months, and then once we get into
(17:49):
July and August it starts going back up again, and
then we'll see we want to for the next couple
of months, even though this is a low end period,
we want to still see if this huge event travel
distance type rocks that just seem to they're not like
(18:13):
anything before because again they're being kicked out or excuse me,
they're being knocked in our direction.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why don't they burn up in the atmosphere, Marshall.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Well, they do. They burn up. If they're big enough,
you're going to have meteorites. They'll fragment, they'll explode, they'll
have some small parts of it that will hit the earth,
and people go looking around for those, but otherwise, if
(18:46):
it's smaller, it will just it'll detonate and that's it.
There's you know, it detonates and it turns into dust.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast
am dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noriy with you.
Marshall Masters back with us Planet X and a Bureau researcher,
radio personality himself formercy and in science features news producer.
He first observed the Bureau on December twenty six, twenty twelve,
and he and his team have made hundreds more observations
in the months following. Marshall has written extensive books addressing
(00:27):
Earth changes, space threats, and sustainable survival strategies and technologies.
One of his many books Revelation and Planet X The
Colburne Bible Indigo Connection. Marshall, welcome, my friend, how you
ben Okay, good to be back you too. What got
you interested in Planet X in the first place?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We were trying to this was back in about nineteen
ninety nine and I was with a couple of other
people and we're trying to figure out global warming. And
that's what indirectly led us to Planet X. Was was
what we wanted is find was was global warming happening
(01:13):
elsewhere in other on other bodies that had an atmosphere,
And that's what we found in that particular year, the
warming on Mars was amazing and to a very large extent,
so you kind of you know, I just say, I
(01:35):
walked straight backwards into it and been there ever since.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It was a great way to walk into it. Why
isn't mainstream science jumped up on.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
This mainstream science with the fireballs right now? Because we're
seeing something new, that's what really got their attention. They're
groping at it. They don't understand. They do notice that
something has changed with fireballs. And I have just put
(02:09):
up an article that went up this weekend signs one thirteen.
A new threat has emerged and this media attention and
it is I haven't seen media attention like this before.
But then again, we're seeing something new and.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We'll get into these fireballs in a big way. Are
you scared about them?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, I think they need to be a concern because
we're seeing a growing trend towards bigger. You know, the
total number of fireballs hasn't changed that dramatically, not enough
for the media to be playing as much attention to
it is not what they're seeing that's new is what
(02:59):
we call. We've created a new category, huge event travel distance,
And what we do is we follow fireballs because this
gave us a way to map the trajectory of Nemesis
(03:21):
as it goes around our son. Nemesis is the smaller
brown dwarf star in orbit around our son, and it's
knocking out fireballs through the Nemesis cloud. And we've been
able to track this very clearly. Not meteorites, shooting stars.
Those are beautiful and I enjoy those, but we just
(03:44):
go with fireballs. We call them the smokers, all right.
And there's all of the data, and we get this
from the AMS, and they're a great institution, multi state,
huge and total events now total events, and these categories,
(04:09):
these three categories have remained the same for us since
we started this series back in twenty fifteen. All right,
And we have two basic kind of fireballs we're tracking,
and we just nicknamed them skimmers and plungers. The skimmers
(04:33):
are on the AMS American Medior Society. These are multi state,
multi country fireballs. They have a flat trajectory and they
go a long distance, and they are seen in multiple
states and they'll cross country boundaries and be seen in
multiple multiple countries. Now, what we're seeing so far this
(05:01):
year is in March and April, all of a sudden,
we have a major uptick the year. In January and
February started out pretty much neutral, kind of in fact,
you know, within the natural variability of previous years. But
(05:24):
in March, boom, we have a big uptick in multi
state And these are the categories of ams uses for reporting.
Then the plungers, as we call them, are huge events,
and these are large rocks and they have a very
steep trajectory, so they're coming more straight down into an area.
(05:49):
And the result is there's a lot of reporting because
they're within a narrow geographic range. But within that range,
it's a very bright, very noticeable event gets everyone's attention.
So in early March, we had what we call the
(06:11):
twenty twenty six Ohio bull llide. It was reported in
multiple states and it created a blast wave and there
were some meteorites that did impact. Now, this is the
one that got everyone's attention. It got our attention for sure.
(06:33):
What when we went into March of this year, what
stunned us is that it set an all time high
for these huge event fireballs. And this for us goes
back over ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And then explain Marsha what the fireballs are.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, let's take we have space rocks and let's work
them from size up. So you have shooting stars and
these are the little tiny ones, and then you have, uh,
a fireball. A fireball is going to be like a
(07:18):
small rock. Then you get into a bull eyde. Now
you're starting to get into fist size objects and the
difference between a fireball. A fireball is going to smoke
as it goes across the sky and it's going to flash.
A bulllide takes that to the next step because it
(07:40):
detonates and you hear it, you hear the boom.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Does it blow up?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, they blow up, and then you have a super
bull lide and a super bull eyde. You have the flash,
you have the boom, but you also have a pressure
wave that comes in. Now the twenty thirteen Chilia blints
(08:09):
that happened in Russia, that was a super bull eyed.
It caused a lot of injuries because people in their
homes saw the flash, they heard the boom, and they
went to go see what it was. So they were
looking out their windows and that's when the pressure wave,
you know, this huge push of wind slammed into all
(08:33):
these buildings and blew the glass into people's faces. Thankfully
nobody was killed in that event, and it was but
a lot of people were injured. And to give it
kind of a perspective, if we're looking at this recent
(08:54):
event that just happened, the Ohio bullllyed March, the Ohio
bullet in terms of mass, all right, just the physical
size of the object was the Ohio bull light was
five percent of Chilia Blinsk in twenty thirteen, to give
(09:15):
you the idea.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So that's small.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's small, but it's still big enough to make a
boom and to get a lot of people's attention. And
there were people that felt that they had within a
narrow range that there had been this pressure wave when.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
That object Marshall blew up over Russia. How big was that?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh, that thing was probably the size of a.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Small car, which isn't really that big.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It was a big It was big. The Chilia blink
That was a large rock probably I don't know, about
five feet in diameter.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You consider that big.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Then, yeah, it hit, it came down. It could do
a lot of damage. If it had that thing could
have really done a lot more damage in the other place,
and we tend to think of these things as being
really massive, you know, because that's what we always see
(10:27):
in the movie. But what we're seeing here these fireballs.
They're big enough to detonate and you hear a boom.
That's what's really important. It's the bulllids that are the boomers,
all right, and super bull lights add that add a
pressure wave to it. But what happened with this one
(10:53):
and all of the fireballs since then, because what we're
seeing is mainstream is reporting fireballs and they're groping for
answers to it, to try and explain all of a sudden,
why are we seeing these fireballs? Why are they getting
our attention? And when we got the data in and
(11:17):
as we put up in this article, is that the
huge event travel distance. For over a decade, all we've
been reporting are the skimmers with the flat trajectory, and
the huge events are the plungers with the steep trajectory.
(11:38):
Now what we have are rocks that are doing their hybrid.
They really are doing both, and so we call that
huge event travel distance.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And do we see them only when they come through
the atmosphere?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, when they're coming in and you know when they're
falling to Earth, that's when we're going to see them. Otherwise,
if they're up in space, we're not going to nothing's
going to happen. The reason why we see them is
the ablation, all right, and they're burning as they come in.
They're entering the atmosphere, they detonate, So we're seeing these events.
(12:22):
But if they're not dealing coming through the atmosphere, we're
not going to see them. They're up there, they're all
over the place. But this new trend with huge event
travel distance, this is the reason why the media has
they've you know instinctively, you know, like a dog chasing
(12:45):
an ambulance, and they've instinctively go, well, on a second,
what's happening. There's something different here with fireballs, and that's
what's really getting their attention. And it is this new
new hybrid category that just popped up this month of
what we call huge event travel distance. So these are
(13:10):
really these are large rocks, and even though they're plunging,
but they're not necessarily plunging, the angle of attack is different.
They're traveling much further. And what we show is we
take the raw data that we're using from ams and
(13:33):
we put up screen captures of the raw data, and
we showed in January where the huge event travel distance
covered multiple countries.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Where they coming from, though Marshall is did something blow up?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well? Where they're coming from is what we're seeing is
and what we say in the article is Nemesis is
now heading south and it's going to pass over our
heads and then eventually pass between Mars and Jupiter. And
(14:15):
the interesting thing is this is something new but something old.
From the very beginning, our biggest concern is that Nemesis
is starting to knock rocks in our direction. Think of
as like billiards.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Are these rocks kind of following Nemesis? Is that why
they're coming this way?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
They're following. Yes, it's dragging rocks, but it's also knocking
rocks ahead of it. So that is what is happening
right now. It's passing through an area of small asteroids
out there in space, and it's starting to knock them
like a queue ball on the billiard table. And that's
(15:03):
the reason why this is a new trend we're getting.
Up to this point, it's been very familiar, very consistent
with what we've always been seeing. But now, like I said,
we have this new hybrid category that just hit for March,
and in March, you can when you look at the
(15:25):
huge travel distance, you can see it's amazing. This new
kind of fireball is really dominating. Is more of this
than the previous kind. So that's what's happening, is that Nemesis,
this brown dwarf star that's in orbit around our sun,
(15:50):
has already completed its perihelion. That was its closest distance
to the Sun, and that was coming up from the
southern sky and now it's starting its app helium leg
It started that last year and it's going south and
it's as it's doing, it's starting to knock rocks in
(16:14):
our direction. Now the question is is how intense is
this going to get? Is this going to continue or
will it debate? And you know, we're really with this.
We're seeing something new, so we can't forecast it, but
it's very, very much real. This is the reason why
(16:36):
the media is all of a sudden so interested.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Are you concerned about these bullines or Super Bowl lightes?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes, because it's a pattern we're seeing, not necessarily that
much more. We're seeing more, but it's it varies depending
on where Nemesis is and where we're at are this
(17:07):
new hybrid kind that's what really works because the trend is,
especially since March is getting bigger, so we're getting bigger
space rocks, and that's the overall trend. So I think
by the end of the year, in the last quarter,
(17:28):
if there's going to be impact events, that would be
more likely it would come in the last quarter. That's
the higher period. Right now we're going you know, we're
just now into May, going into June. This is the
low point seasonally in the year, always has been. These
are the lowest months, and then once we get into
(17:49):
July and August it starts going back up again, and
then we'll see we want to for the next couple
of months, even though this is a low end period,
we want to still see if this huge event travel
distance type rocks that just seem to they're not like
(18:13):
anything before because again they're being kicked out or excuse me,
they're being knocked in our direction.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why don't they burn up in the atmosphere, Marshall.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Well, they do. They burn up. If they're big enough,
you're going to have meteorites. They'll fragment, they'll explode, they'll
have some small parts of it that will hit the earth,
and people go looking around for those, but otherwise, if
(18:46):
it's smaller, it will just it'll detonate and that's it.
There's you know, it detonates and it turns into dust.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast
am dot com for more
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.