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January 21, 2026 17 mins

George Noory and author Temple Hayes discuss her techniques for becoming a difference maker in your community, how to overcome your fear of living and have the courage to find the thing in the world you can change, and the importance of forgiveness in helping others.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrey with
you our special guest. Temple Hayes as a spiritual teacher,
community leader, and advocate for healing. She's the founder of
the Temple Hayes Ministries, the Institute for Lifelong Learning, and
Global Peace Workers International, where her work centers on conscious living,
restorative healing, and compassionate leadership. Our website is linked up

(00:27):
at Coast tocoastdam dot com and her book is called
Being a Difference Maker, which we'll talk about. Temple. Welcome back.
Have you been?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh? George, is so good to be with you again.
My goodness, it's just a great thing. I love your
show and all that you're doing. I tell you you
are a difference maker. George Snurry, you are?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
You are well.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
You did a great job for us six years ago.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Have you been.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I've been great. I've been on a real journey of learning.
You know, if we aren't learning, dying right. So I
lived in California for three years, and then last year
I moved to New Orleans, and so I've just been
taking somewhat of a sabbatical. You are my coming out party. Actually,

(01:17):
I thought, what a great way to start the year
with George Nuri. You know, even when I say you're
probably this way as well, Even when I say I
don't have a lot going on compared to most people,
I'm still doing a lot, you know what I mean.
I won't ever retire. I don't like that word. I

(01:38):
want to stay active.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I made the same decision that I'm just going to
keep going until I drop temple. That's what I'm going
to do. So tell us a little bit more about
yourself beyond the bio.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, I am just, you know, one of those people.
I'm just really committed to learning, growing, expanding, being part.
You know, a teacher said to me when I was
in my twenties, You're not going to be able to
solve all the problems of the world, but you can

(02:12):
certainly be committed not to be one of them, right,
And so that's where I really work at and give
energy to being a difference maker. I just think it's
so important that we as we change, as we shift,
as we learn from you know, our tragedies and our triumphs,

(02:36):
that we come pass it on to others. And that is,
you know, really what this book is about. So I
do a lot of life coaching. I have the online
Institute of always bringing in different teachers and courses to
teach what it is to have the skills, you know,
to make a difference. And I just love my life. Really,

(03:00):
we're good for you.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Now tell us what does it mean to be a
difference maker?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, you know, when when we think of being a
difference maker, everybody is one, you know, really, I mean,
but are they making a difference in the impact that
they would like to make?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, when a child walks in the room full
of joy and enthusiasm, what happens to everybody? They are
influenced by that. Yes, there's something that goes off in
our humanity that says I want to be more like that.
So being a difference maker is like when people, you know,

(03:41):
they have anger issues and then they become bullies. They're
a difference maker, But is that really the direction they
want to go? You know, people that stuff their anger,
people that believe that spirituality means or religiosity means just
pray and it all go away. People that feel like, well,

(04:04):
I don't want to upset anybody, by you know what
I say or don't say. So in writing the book, George,
I just really wanted to look at different aspects of
who we can be and how important it is in
this journey called life that we own our emotions, you know,

(04:25):
and because if we don't own them, they own us, right,
And then we have health issues and all different kinds
of things, and we don't get the results that we're
seeking or that we're we're looking for. And so I thought,
if I can partmentalize various types of difference makers, perhaps
it will give some insight to others and make it

(04:48):
feel like a journey they would like to be on.
You know, I thought it was very interesting that the
first two hours of your show you had the gentleman
that talks about the fear and flaw when I talk
about the fear of living. So you know, we're a
great match, you know. I just thought that was so

(05:09):
funny because, you know, I think I told you last
time we were on the show. A lot of people
are fascinated with the near death experience, but I'm more
into the near life experience. You know, how am I
living out loud that is congruent to what I want
to stand for in this life.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
And to make a difference. It doesn't have to be huge.
It could be small within your community, within your family, right.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
It can be That's the whole thing. I mean, if
everybody does a little, no one ever has to do
a lot. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Was there a defining moment when you realize that you
could no longer be quiet at what you do or
keep it down.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yes. Absolutely. In two thousand and seven, I was invited
by a friend to go to Omega Institute and it
was called Women Peace and Power. And I really wasn't
sure what I was getting into. I thought, I hope
this isn't anything that's feminism, because I love men and
you know that. But I thought, okay, I'll go for

(06:22):
the weekend. And it was six Nobel Peace Laureates. It
was Jane Fonda, consisted of a lot of real influencers.
I listened to a woman like from Afghanistan. She must
have been thirty. They had attempted to kill her like
six times because she spoke out about the problems in

(06:43):
her country. And I'm sitting there, George, thinking I'm not
doing anything. I'm not doing enough, I'm not doing anything.
But as I was leaving the conference, I had this
real epiphany that it was time for me to go
the deeper love, to stand for life, to stand for
life rights, to teach people about honoring life and all

(07:07):
living things, and to get back to the sacred discip life.
So it was a huge defining moment and it really
shapeshifted me. And I'm still growing into it, you know
how that is. It's a constant, you know, growing into
and healing that what quitch needs to be revealed in
me so that I can support others to do the same.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
What would you say, Temple, in terms of being a
difference maker? Was the most remarkable thing you've come across,
either a story to you or your own self. Hmm interesting?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Huh yeah, I would say to that that, you know,
often we pray or we meditate, are we you know,
walk or go on the retreat and we ask.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
For our deeper per purpose. When it's interesting for me
is when I don't necessarily like the answer I hear,
do you know what I mean? Like, I don't want
to do that, and so I know I must trust
the process. And that's really hard for us with crowded

(08:21):
malignes and bombarded with news and being influenced by you know,
other outside forces. But I would say four years ago,
when I was perfectly happy living in Florida, had lived
there thirty something years, really thought that's where I would

(08:41):
spend the rest of my life. And I start getting
these messages. George. It was amazing people at restaurants who
walk up to me and say, do you know you're
moving to California? You know? And I would go stop.
You know, I didn't even know them, and yet I
knew that's what I had to do.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
How didn't they know this?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was just one of those mysical things. It was
just unreal. I mean, I had it was part of
a huge community. I had moved my mother to Florida.
I had a little goddaughter there, you know, the perfect
white picket pen, so to speak. And I'm like, what
moved to California? And yet I knew. I knew that's

(09:27):
exactly what. I couldn't deny it, you know, I knew
if I didn't do it, I'd always wonder the entire
rest of my life. So I think that's when it's
very interesting to live your goals and your values, is
when inwardly you get nudges and you get messages and
it wouldn't have been what your personality would have chosen,

(09:51):
but you do it. And it has turned out to
be just a great journey for me the three years
that we were there. It just shapeshifted me. I let
go of being part of a community in the way
of attachments, so I can do my own work now.

(10:13):
It's been fascinating.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
What do you think of the word forgiveness.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's a huge one. There was some kind of wisdom
and religiosity when it said, you know we forgive daily. Yes,
So to me, forgive is the opportunity for giving, for
me to get the energy back to myself that I

(10:45):
spin and disperse on other things or other stories from
the past. And to me if I feel someone has
done me harm or hurt my feelings and in public life,
you know, I always said, it's fascinated. It's fascinating to

(11:06):
me if only I did half what they say about me.
So when I know that I've really forgiven someone, I
have a real mutual feeling and I know I'm complete
with that part of what I need to do with
that work. I think it's crucial. I think when we

(11:26):
hold on to resentment, it gets recent and recent and
recent and recent in your life. And until we complete
to me the experience that we're holding onto, we continue
to attract that redundantly and experience it. They might be cuter,

(11:46):
they might have a different name, but we get to
do it again until we get that part and integrate
it within ourselves. Does that make sense, George?

Speaker 4 (11:55):
It does?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And in the book Difference Maker being a difference maker?
What does it mean to live out loud?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know, it's like that, It's like that idea, you know,
be aware because people are watching. I remember one time
hearing a speaker say I think it was Tony Morrison,
and she said, always be aware when kids children see you,
because what they're looking for is the look on your face.

(12:29):
What is your face saying? Are you happy to be alive?
Do you appreciate the world in which she has been
gifted to you? What are you expressing? And so living
out loud often that's interpreted by a loud microphone, you know,
a public speaker. I've had many people through the years

(12:52):
come up to me and say, well, I don't want
to I don't want to be like you. I'm not
comfortable and I don't want to get you know, in
front of a microphone, and I said, who said I was?
But that was the journey on my path. But it's
about realizing the impact that you're making in public settings
with your family, at the grocery store, at the bank,

(13:14):
wherever you are. You're making an impact, an immense impact
in ways that you never know because other people are
watching and living out loud. Ultimately, is a person that
has the capacity to be congruent with their fullyef system TEPA.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Why do you think courage is important in the equation?

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I think it takes immense courage, and I find the
longer we live, you know, we I mean, I'm aging myself.
But you know, when I was growing up, we had
three channels on the television, right, and it was a

(14:02):
special event when we all set around it and watch
the same thing. And now we're just so bombarded with
stuff coming into our whatever we call this thing that
we call a phone. It's more than a found this
gadget that we have. We're hearing information all the time.
It takes courage every day to wake up, to start

(14:27):
the day, stretching the mind, having gratitude, being centered and
grounded and allowing what we choose to entertain us, impact us,
discourage us, bring us into a level of victimhood. It
takes a lot of courage to walk the walk, don't

(14:49):
you think I do?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Even though I think the old times are great and
I miss some of them, I think today is amazing.
With the technology we have a bit to us if
we use it right, it's unbelievable. I mean, you write
about our phones. They're like little computers. You can do anything.
You send pictures to people, you can talk to people,

(15:14):
you can check the internet, you can ask questions. I mean,
it's just made life so easy for most people. It's
truly remarkable. We didn't have that in our day.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's fascinating, is it? It really is. I wouldn't trade
it for anything. I absolutely like you're saying. If you
know the people I've been able to stay in touch
with through the years, and you know all the things,
it is absolutely amazing. But for someone to use their
own mind and make their own decisions and their own

(15:48):
choices and be influenced by the things that they believe,
I believe it does it takes a great sense of courage.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
What would you say is one of the most remarkable
stories of someone who's made a difference that you've come across,
whether it's been part of your training or something on
the outside.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Hmmm, well, I think of I think of Gandhi, I
think of you know, in the timing of this show,
Martin Luther King. Definitely, I think of Buddha, absolutely, the

(16:40):
Dalai Lama Ybaba. I mean, we've had many, many greats
that we have either known or heard about and lived
by their values in our lifetime. Definitely difference makers. They're
sacred warriors. Really, they really have an energy that is

(17:00):
about living out. Loud is their voice, but yet they
have learned how to tone it in such a way
that it's a sacred approach. You know, we have a
lot of celebrities today, which is why we all know
the same people. They're extremely influential. It's amazing what TikTok

(17:24):
is doing, you know, and the people that have voices there.
It's incredible. So many people are making this world a
better and bright and wonderful place.

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