May 7, 2026 • 20 mins
George Noory and psychic medium Carole Obley explore communicating with the human soul in the afterlife, how souls choose the situation it wants to experience when it enters a new lifetime, and if it's possible for a person to exist without having a soul.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Spiritual medium and author Carol Obly helps and has done
readings for more than sixteen thousand groups and individuals for
three decades. She also does grief support and teachings about
the afterlife. Carol also regularly delivers specific, practical guidance and
readings about a wide variety of life issues, including relationships, business,
(00:29):
and spirituality. Her latest book is called The Art of
Sensing Carol. Welcome back. Have you been.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good evening? George doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How did you get involved in mediumship?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was running a business and I've written about this
in my books. Actually it burned to the ground and
I was left really directionless in life, had no clue
what I was going to do after losing this business,
And by a series of synchronicities, I came onto the
(01:09):
pathway by a lovely soul who's no longer with us,
who was a friend of mine, actually killed in a
car wreck on her way to my house. So it
was quite devastating, but she was a catalyst for me,
and I'm sure many listeners know about things, maybe not
(01:32):
with mediumship, but catalysts of different people and events in
their lives. And that's exactly what happened to me.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Grief is not easy, Carol, It sure isn't.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's something we all share though. We're all going to
lose someone, a person or perhaps a beloved pet at
some time in our life. And people have to understand
that grief is a normal human reaction to loss, and
(02:11):
how we navigate through that depends upon our own spiritual consciousness.
And that's part of what I feel that my purpose
is is to help people understand to not be afraid
and to know that the bond of love and I'm
(02:32):
sure many other mediums have discussed this too, but that
bond of love is eternal and it's never destroyed through death.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What did you learn about the death situation that you
didn't know before you got into this.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I had no idea what happened to us? Are the
real us, meaning our soul after we left this physical play.
You know, I grew up in traditional religion and was told,
you know, well, we go to heaven and maybe we
sit on the clouds and play harps with d angels,
(03:16):
and I believe that, you know, for a while, for
a long time, until I started reading. Like many people,
I started with the writings and the readings of Edgar
Casey and from there I read voluminously to discover I
(03:39):
couldn't get enough, George, I had this unquenchable thirst for
metaphysics and the paranormal, and even as a child, I
had that. So then in my thirties, that's when that
business burned and I, you know, became very interested after
(04:03):
I got to a metaphysical center that my friend, the catalyst,
took me to, and so I read everything that I
could get my hands on, and I'm dating myself with
this one. I listened to a lot of cassette tapes
of different spiritual teachers and of course meditation and you know,
(04:30):
sitting with the group in meditation and shared visions that
we would have and so everything really took off from
there and a completely completely transformed me. When I look
back on the person that I was before starting this work,
it's like another lifetime. I was completely different, completely lost
(04:55):
in life, and stepping onto this pathway was hugely transformative
for me.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Since you've been doing it, do you have any regrets?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, that I didn't start sooner. That's that's not the
only regret that I have. But in the interest of
being transparent, which I always am in every all media
and my books, and you know, when I work with clients,
I've wanted to quit many times. I became discouraged that
(05:35):
you know, through my personal development and medium show. And
it's a long road. It's a very long road. And
you cannot take a weekend workshop and you know, hang
out a sign that you're a professional medium. And so
I went through a lot of training, and a lot
(05:56):
of training was on the job, so to speak, and
I would become very discouraged. And if it weren't for
a particularly good friend that I have, I would have
quit a long time ago. But she encouraged me.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Were you too hard on yourself?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I believe, so I believe that's accurate. I also expected
that just you know, right away, I would be seeing
things through clairvoyance and you know, knowing everything immediately when
I sat down with an individual. I did open very
(06:40):
quickly though, by taking training at a place called Delphi,
and that's near Atlanta, Georgia, and within a week's time
I could sit with strangers and tell them things about themselves.
We were tested before we left. I could tell them
things about themselves that I would have no way of knowing. Now.
(07:01):
Mediumship or connection with souls who have left the physical
realm was not immediate for me. I was, you know,
doing things like I say, the Big two relationships and work,
and that's how I really started and using the tarot,
(07:21):
the seventy eight card deck of images by Pamela Coleman Smith,
who is an excellent artist, that really helped me open
up as well. The images really spoke to me and
I had a strange phenomenon, George, when I started that,
I would look at a card, and of course the
(07:43):
cards all have meetings, but I would start to receive
impressions about the person I was reading, you know, the
recipient of the reading about their loved ones who were deceased.
And you know, that's one of the ways that this
whole phenomena opened up for me.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Were you a medium prior to that or this is
what got you into that? Oh, I've been.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
A medium and before this lifetime, I'm pretty convinced of that.
One of the places for me personally was in Egypt.
You know, I've done I've had regression and I went back.
Some of the lifetimes were not pleasant because there was persecution.
(08:33):
So yeah, I was born with the ability. I've also
studied in my birth chart. I've studied many years of astrology,
particularly karmic astrology, or the soul's journey in the physical plane.
And so you can see right in my natal chart
(08:54):
that I was born with a predisposition to be highly sensitive.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And I know you're going to want some after hearing this.
This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen and Malachi
Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi, who's
eight almost nine years old now, was suffering with not
just one or two warts, but I mean a significant
outbreak of warts all over his body, so significant it
impacted his ability to really function.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.
It was Tye's book actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can
see that it would work. And so at what point
did you see that there was actually improvement It's really
going to work.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve
weeks you can see these things actually getting smaller and
smaller and then going down to with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's
you know one that size the wanner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna wow. It's just been miraculous to see him
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It's great to see him so happy and yes, uncident,
absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
For instead of saying it that is blown away, TI,
this is awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. Call them
to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now call
one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.
That's one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven
thirty five, or visit Carnivora dot com c A r
niv O r A Carnivora dot com. I think it's
(10:30):
chapter two of your book I'm Still with You Death
a beginning. You talk about the soul experience after death.
Explain to us, if you can, Carol, what the soul
really is.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, I'm going to give you a shortened, condensed
version of that. The soul is spirit You can call
that anything you want. You can call it the divine,
you can call it God, whatever term you give it.
It's all the same energy. And the soul is an
(11:05):
individuated form of God. And so being that, the soul
has that power of spirit of God, and it takes
a while for us to detach from, you know, the
(11:29):
rational part of us, the physical brain, which to me
is a step down unit. It's not really has no
power on its own or or physical mind. But the
soul is that the soul is divine, and that is
why the soul will never perish. It is eternal, and
(11:55):
it's you know, the consciousness of that high frequency that
we call God.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
When this was all put together spiritually, what was the
rationale for the spirit world and the physical world? Two
different things?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Georgs, you always ask me very interesting questions. You let
them arise organically, which is the way I love to
do interviews. So when you put things together, I mean,
you know, the plane of the spirit world is right here.
(12:41):
I always tell people that I've talked about that many times.
It's not a place. And by the way, there are
many many levels to it. Those who are familiar with
a Christian Bible remember christ saying in my father's house
many mansions. What I believe he was referring to there,
(13:04):
and other people believe, was the various levels of the
spirit world. Now, the closer in density or frequency or
vibration that you come to the Earth, the less light
there is, and I mean really physical light, and that
(13:27):
is those planes are relatively dense in comparison to the
higher planes. And the higher up that you go in
terms of frequency, which is also consciousness, the more light
there is. And there are beings who exist on those levels.
(13:52):
And the important thing to remember, too, is that we
can't really go above the level of our own consciousness.
Those above us can descend, they can come into our
level of consciousness, but it's impossible for us to go
(14:13):
to the higher levels because we're not matching that in frequency.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Have you ever gotten in to a situation, Carol, where
someone is soulless?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I see that, particularly on social media of all things.
What a surprise, right, I see that a lot, and
I mean I observe it. And have I spoken to
anybody who I feel is absolutely soulless? I would have
(14:50):
to say probably no. But I have observed it, and
I see that it's much more prevalent today in our
world than before.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So the soul as people do exist.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, I mean, you can say that the soul is there.
The soul is always present because that's what animates the body.
If you take the soul out of the body, what
do you have. You have death. So it's not that
the soul is not there, but there's a very high
(15:33):
level of disconnect by choice from the consciousness of the soul,
and that's a difference. So it's present, but the individual
has chosen to disconnect from that consciousness.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And it's remarkable how it all functions, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It blows me away every day.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Does any even scare you?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yes, but not to the point where I'm frozen in fear,
because the number one way that we come out of
this I call it the spirit mind, George, the spirit mind.
The number one way we come out of that and
disconnect to it really is through that thing that we
(16:32):
call fear. You know, we give in to fear because
we all know that in one format. It doesn't matter
what form fear takes. It's paralyzing. And you know, we
can remain stuck fear of change. We can you know,
(16:54):
remain on, you know, not spiritually evolving, for fear of
leaving something that's very comfortable to us. If I leave that,
then my whole life is going to change. So I
would say that fear is exceptionally prevalent right now in
(17:18):
our world, fear of the unknown.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Does the soul create the personality or does the personality
create the soul.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The soul, in my experience and everything that I share
in my writings and interviews is what I've personally experienced
through three decades of doing readings for people. The soul
chooses the personality prior to coming here, and so you
(17:53):
might ask why, because the soul needs to advances itself
through the personality. And the mistake that we make as
human beings is that we tend to elevate the personality
above the soul, and we make the soul a servant
(18:17):
so to speak, of the personality, when really it should
be the opposite. So the personality is not bad whatsoever,
It's very much needed. But upon death, the personality dissolves.
So you know why, then, you know, when I'm doing
(18:40):
a reading, do I am I able to sense the
personality that that soul had, Because when that soul returns,
it lowers its consciousness to be able to blend with me.
As a medium, I become aware of the totality or
the complete repertoire of that soul's consciousness. But it's not
(19:04):
all at once. It's sort of drop by drop, and
that's how mediumship occurs.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But does the soul create the personality of the individual?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I would say yes, it's given a selection. Are we
going to choose this particular personality, you know, say one
that's happy and jubilant and joyful, or are we going
to choose one that may have a bit of a
predisposition to something like depression or maybe a mental illness.
(19:46):
Why would anyone choose that, well, you know, something relatively
painful or distressing. We wouldn't on a conscious level. But
the soul's perspective, if an awareness, is radically different than
the personalities and the rational brain. So we get to
(20:08):
choose that. And the reason for that is is to
advance spiritually. That's the only reason that we're here here,
meaning in the fiscal realm.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Spiritual medium and author Carol Obly helps and has done
readings for more than sixteen thousand groups and individuals for
three decades. She also does grief support and teachings about
the afterlife. Carol also regularly delivers specific, practical guidance and
readings about a wide variety of life issues, including relationships, business,
(00:29):
and spirituality. Her latest book is called The Art of
Sensing Carol. Welcome back. Have you been.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good evening? George doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How did you get involved in mediumship?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was running a business and I've written about this
in my books. Actually it burned to the ground and
I was left really directionless in life, had no clue
what I was going to do after losing this business,
And by a series of synchronicities, I came onto the
(01:09):
pathway by a lovely soul who's no longer with us,
who was a friend of mine, actually killed in a
car wreck on her way to my house. So it
was quite devastating, but she was a catalyst for me,
and I'm sure many listeners know about things, maybe not
(01:32):
with mediumship, but catalysts of different people and events in
their lives. And that's exactly what happened to me.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Grief is not easy, Carol, It sure isn't.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's something we all share though. We're all going to
lose someone, a person or perhaps a beloved pet at
some time in our life. And people have to understand
that grief is a normal human reaction to loss, and
(02:11):
how we navigate through that depends upon our own spiritual consciousness.
And that's part of what I feel that my purpose
is is to help people understand to not be afraid
and to know that the bond of love and I'm
(02:32):
sure many other mediums have discussed this too, but that
bond of love is eternal and it's never destroyed through death.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What did you learn about the death situation that you
didn't know before you got into this.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I had no idea what happened to us? Are the
real us, meaning our soul after we left this physical play.
You know, I grew up in traditional religion and was told,
you know, well, we go to heaven and maybe we
sit on the clouds and play harps with d angels,
(03:16):
and I believe that, you know, for a while, for
a long time, until I started reading. Like many people,
I started with the writings and the readings of Edgar
Casey and from there I read voluminously to discover I
(03:39):
couldn't get enough, George, I had this unquenchable thirst for
metaphysics and the paranormal, and even as a child, I
had that. So then in my thirties, that's when that
business burned and I, you know, became very interested after
(04:03):
I got to a metaphysical center that my friend, the catalyst,
took me to, and so I read everything that I
could get my hands on, and I'm dating myself with
this one. I listened to a lot of cassette tapes
of different spiritual teachers and of course meditation and you know,
(04:30):
sitting with the group in meditation and shared visions that
we would have and so everything really took off from
there and a completely completely transformed me. When I look
back on the person that I was before starting this work,
it's like another lifetime. I was completely different, completely lost
(04:55):
in life, and stepping onto this pathway was hugely transformative
for me.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Since you've been doing it, do you have any regrets?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, that I didn't start sooner. That's that's not the
only regret that I have. But in the interest of
being transparent, which I always am in every all media
and my books, and you know, when I work with clients,
I've wanted to quit many times. I became discouraged that
(05:35):
you know, through my personal development and medium show. And
it's a long road. It's a very long road. And
you cannot take a weekend workshop and you know, hang
out a sign that you're a professional medium. And so
I went through a lot of training, and a lot
(05:56):
of training was on the job, so to speak, and
I would become very discouraged. And if it weren't for
a particularly good friend that I have, I would have
quit a long time ago. But she encouraged me.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Were you too hard on yourself?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I believe, so I believe that's accurate. I also expected
that just you know, right away, I would be seeing
things through clairvoyance and you know, knowing everything immediately when
I sat down with an individual. I did open very
(06:40):
quickly though, by taking training at a place called Delphi,
and that's near Atlanta, Georgia, and within a week's time
I could sit with strangers and tell them things about themselves.
We were tested before we left. I could tell them
things about themselves that I would have no way of knowing. Now.
(07:01):
Mediumship or connection with souls who have left the physical
realm was not immediate for me. I was, you know,
doing things like I say, the Big two relationships and work,
and that's how I really started and using the tarot,
(07:21):
the seventy eight card deck of images by Pamela Coleman Smith,
who is an excellent artist, that really helped me open
up as well. The images really spoke to me and
I had a strange phenomenon, George, when I started that,
I would look at a card, and of course the
(07:43):
cards all have meetings, but I would start to receive
impressions about the person I was reading, you know, the
recipient of the reading about their loved ones who were deceased.
And you know, that's one of the ways that this
whole phenomena opened up for me.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Were you a medium prior to that or this is
what got you into that? Oh, I've been.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
A medium and before this lifetime, I'm pretty convinced of that.
One of the places for me personally was in Egypt.
You know, I've done I've had regression and I went back.
Some of the lifetimes were not pleasant because there was persecution.
(08:33):
So yeah, I was born with the ability. I've also
studied in my birth chart. I've studied many years of astrology,
particularly karmic astrology, or the soul's journey in the physical plane.
And so you can see right in my natal chart
(08:54):
that I was born with a predisposition to be highly sensitive.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And I know you're going to want some after hearing this.
This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen and Malachi
Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi, who's
eight almost nine years old now, was suffering with not
just one or two warts, but I mean a significant
outbreak of warts all over his body, so significant it
impacted his ability to really function.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.
It was Tye's book actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can
see that it would work. And so at what point
did you see that there was actually improvement It's really
going to work.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve
weeks you can see these things actually getting smaller and
smaller and then going down to with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's
you know one that size the wanner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna wow. It's just been miraculous to see him
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It's great to see him so happy and yes, uncident,
absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
For instead of saying it that is blown away, TI,
this is awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. Call them
to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now call
one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.
That's one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven
thirty five, or visit Carnivora dot com c A r
niv O r A Carnivora dot com. I think it's
(10:30):
chapter two of your book I'm Still with You Death
a beginning. You talk about the soul experience after death.
Explain to us, if you can, Carol, what the soul
really is.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, I'm going to give you a shortened, condensed
version of that. The soul is spirit You can call
that anything you want. You can call it the divine,
you can call it God, whatever term you give it.
It's all the same energy. And the soul is an
(11:05):
individuated form of God. And so being that, the soul
has that power of spirit of God, and it takes
a while for us to detach from, you know, the
(11:29):
rational part of us, the physical brain, which to me
is a step down unit. It's not really has no
power on its own or or physical mind. But the
soul is that the soul is divine, and that is
why the soul will never perish. It is eternal, and
(11:55):
it's you know, the consciousness of that high frequency that
we call God.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
When this was all put together spiritually, what was the
rationale for the spirit world and the physical world? Two
different things?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Georgs, you always ask me very interesting questions. You let
them arise organically, which is the way I love to
do interviews. So when you put things together, I mean,
you know, the plane of the spirit world is right here.
(12:41):
I always tell people that I've talked about that many times.
It's not a place. And by the way, there are
many many levels to it. Those who are familiar with
a Christian Bible remember christ saying in my father's house
many mansions. What I believe he was referring to there,
(13:04):
and other people believe, was the various levels of the
spirit world. Now, the closer in density or frequency or
vibration that you come to the Earth, the less light
there is, and I mean really physical light, and that
(13:27):
is those planes are relatively dense in comparison to the
higher planes. And the higher up that you go in
terms of frequency, which is also consciousness, the more light
there is. And there are beings who exist on those levels.
(13:52):
And the important thing to remember, too, is that we
can't really go above the level of our own consciousness.
Those above us can descend, they can come into our
level of consciousness, but it's impossible for us to go
(14:13):
to the higher levels because we're not matching that in frequency.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Have you ever gotten in to a situation, Carol, where
someone is soulless?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I see that, particularly on social media of all things.
What a surprise, right, I see that a lot, and
I mean I observe it. And have I spoken to
anybody who I feel is absolutely soulless? I would have
(14:50):
to say probably no. But I have observed it, and
I see that it's much more prevalent today in our
world than before.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So the soul as people do exist.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, I mean, you can say that the soul is there.
The soul is always present because that's what animates the body.
If you take the soul out of the body, what
do you have. You have death. So it's not that
the soul is not there, but there's a very high
(15:33):
level of disconnect by choice from the consciousness of the soul,
and that's a difference. So it's present, but the individual
has chosen to disconnect from that consciousness.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And it's remarkable how it all functions, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It blows me away every day.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Does any even scare you?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yes, but not to the point where I'm frozen in fear,
because the number one way that we come out of
this I call it the spirit mind, George, the spirit mind.
The number one way we come out of that and
disconnect to it really is through that thing that we
(16:32):
call fear. You know, we give in to fear because
we all know that in one format. It doesn't matter
what form fear takes. It's paralyzing. And you know, we
can remain stuck fear of change. We can you know,
(16:54):
remain on, you know, not spiritually evolving, for fear of
leaving something that's very comfortable to us. If I leave that,
then my whole life is going to change. So I
would say that fear is exceptionally prevalent right now in
(17:18):
our world, fear of the unknown.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Does the soul create the personality or does the personality
create the soul.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The soul, in my experience and everything that I share
in my writings and interviews is what I've personally experienced
through three decades of doing readings for people. The soul
chooses the personality prior to coming here, and so you
(17:53):
might ask why, because the soul needs to advances itself
through the personality. And the mistake that we make as
human beings is that we tend to elevate the personality
above the soul, and we make the soul a servant
(18:17):
so to speak, of the personality, when really it should
be the opposite. So the personality is not bad whatsoever,
It's very much needed. But upon death, the personality dissolves.
So you know why, then, you know, when I'm doing
(18:40):
a reading, do I am I able to sense the
personality that that soul had, Because when that soul returns,
it lowers its consciousness to be able to blend with me.
As a medium, I become aware of the totality or
the complete repertoire of that soul's consciousness. But it's not
(19:04):
all at once. It's sort of drop by drop, and
that's how mediumship occurs.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But does the soul create the personality of the individual?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I would say yes, it's given a selection. Are we
going to choose this particular personality, you know, say one
that's happy and jubilant and joyful, or are we going
to choose one that may have a bit of a
predisposition to something like depression or maybe a mental illness.
(19:46):
Why would anyone choose that, well, you know, something relatively
painful or distressing. We wouldn't on a conscious level. But
the soul's perspective, if an awareness, is radically different than
the personalities and the rational brain. So we get to
(20:08):
choose that. And the reason for that is is to
advance spiritually. That's the only reason that we're here here,
meaning in the fiscal realm.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
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