March 3, 2026 • 18 mins
George Noory and author Whitley Streiber discuss the possibility of President Trump disclosing the existence of UFOs soon and why many people won't believe him, how hypnosis helped him recall his own alien abduction experience, and the implant he says he received from the aliens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back to George Noriy along with Whitley Strieber. Whitley,
I'll let you wrap up your thoughts on the President
Trump in disclosure and then we'll get into Transformation twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Okay, Well, what I was going to say is this,
he has the bully pulpit. He's the president of United States.
If he says something, everyone in the world is going
to hear that at some point. But he does not
have the same level of authority that in many parts
(00:36):
of the culture that previous presidents did. He's unique in
this respect because the country is so polarized in the
world too, People like liberals and so forth are not
necessarily going to believe him. And the people who are
going to be most affected by the shock of this,
(01:02):
the reality of an alien presence overturning their whole worldview,
are the same people were least likely to believe him.
And I think it's a rare opportunity for the visitors
to start bleeding this out into the public without causing
(01:23):
people to go into a state of shock like this
shock that immobilized the Incas when Pizarro showed up, they
basically just were unable to They were unable to function,
(01:46):
they couldn't respond, And the same was true with the Aztecs.
They thought Cortess and his men were God. Cazekodal come
back to Earth, and they were unable to fight for
their own world successfully and they fell to it. So
(02:13):
these things are all in their minds, and I think
that there's a possibility that the Trump administration might do this.
But unfortunately Pete Hegseth gave the project of going through
(02:34):
and releasing all of the UFO files to the All
Domain Anomalies Research Organization ARROW, which has already proven that
it's a highly unreliable element. It's not going to it's
already lied extensively about UFOs, and I think that it's
(02:59):
fairly that'll continue to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Unfortunately, Wedly, this episode started for you in nineteen eighty five,
did it not.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, I had had this in my life as a child,
but I had forgotten it. And the reason is that
it's the same reason my son, who had it in
his life as a child, has forgotten it. It's not
talked about, and you don't have any place to put
(03:33):
the memories, they fade away, and that happened to me
as a boy. So when they reappeared in my life
in nineteen eighty five, I had no idea that this
could even happen. None, I wasn't hadn't thought about flying
saucers since I was a child, and I was totally
(04:00):
thrown I really for the few weeks after it. Initially
the abduction I had in late nineteen eighty five happened,
I assume first it was a crime because I was
obviously I was assaulted, I was injured. And then when
(04:22):
it didn't seem possible that it was a crime, I
just didn't know what to make of it. And eventually
met about Hopkins, who was studying alien abduction.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
One of the best, wasn't he well.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
At the time, I thought he was a complete nut,
you know, And and I went my wife Anna and
I went to see him because there was a book
called Science in the UFOs that did describe my something
similar to what happened to me, what I remembered happening
(05:01):
to me, And we sort of went to see him
and thinking that, you know, he's not obviously, but maybe
there's something in this and that was then I. He
introduced me to doctor Donald Klein, who was the one
(05:21):
of the most important psychiatrists in the New York in
the United States. He was the head of the New
York State Department of Psychiatry and also a well or
renowned forensic hypnotist. And don't ever let you anyone tell
you hypnosis doesn't work. That it does in the hands,
(05:42):
in the hands of the right person. And if there
was ever a right person, it was doctor Klein. He
had had in the record solved at that point in
his career over seventy cases using forensic hypnosis to help
help people remember things. So I thought, okay, that I'll
(06:05):
let the sky hypnotize me. And he and I talked
about it beforehand, and we were laughing up our sleeves
at bud because neither one of us thought I would
see aliens. And what we were thinking is that these
these big black eyes and strange faces that I remembered
(06:27):
would turn out to be masks. And I was hoping
that I would be able to identify enough about where
I was and so forth to provide evidence to the police,
because I still thought I had been assaulted it was
a crime, which it was but unfortunately it was not
a crime the police are going to solve in any case.
(06:53):
I had the hypnosis, and I'll never I was shocked
to my core when I realized that I was in
a little room full of giant insects. That's what it
looked like.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Was it the hypnosis that brought all this back to you?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
No, I had the memories by then. The day after,
I was very traumatized, and my memories were quite confused.
I remembered an owl in the house and things like that,
because these are these big eyes. And then over the
(07:31):
next couple of weeks it became more and more obvious
that the memory became started to come together, and I
remembered being taken out of the house, being in a
little room and seeing these creatures. And then it turned
(07:52):
out that I had been injured. My doctor diagnosed that
I had been raped, and I was horrified. I just
couldn't imagine what had happened to me.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You were around thirty nine, forty years old?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Then forty years old? Yeah, And I called the police.
I called the New York State Criminal Investigation Division and
got a detective out to the house. And he couldn't
he said, I don't have there's no point of entry,
there's no I don't know where to look for fingerprints.
You have no way to describe these people except that
(08:33):
they apparently were wearing masks, and there's no place for
me to start.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
At what point did you realize these weren't masks?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
During the hypnosis with doctor Klein, it became incredibly vivid,
and not only that, in the middle of it, my
voice changed. Apparently I wasn't aware of this, and doctor
Mine said, suddenly, how old are you? And I heard
(09:04):
my little boy Texas little boy voice, I'm from Texas
say twelve, and ah, I thought, what is going on here?
And I remembered an abduction experience with my father and
my sister back at the age of twelve. And doctor
(09:26):
Klein said, when people have been traumatized repeatedly in their
lives by the same thing, they will often regress back
like you just did, without realizing they have. And he said,
You've undoubtedly had this in your life for a long time.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And I know you're going to want someone after hearing this.
This is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine
years old now, was suffering with not just one or
two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts
all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability
to really function.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.
It was Tie's book actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It is an amazing immunal modulator, and so I can
see that it would work. And so at what point
did you see that there was actually improvement it's really
going to work.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller
and then going down to with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's
you know one the size of the wanner. I thought,
no way, that's gonna wow. That's just been miraculous to
see him get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's great to see him so happy and yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Competent, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Friends that have seen it that is blown away.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Ti, this is awesome, Yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora call them
to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called
one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.
That's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven
thirty five. Or visit Carnivora dot com c A r
niv O r A carnivora dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Those that got you when you were twelve, were they
the same ones that got you when you were forty?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I remember being in a room full of cots with
soldiers on the cots, and one of these beings was
moving among the soldiers with the little wond in her hand,
touching them, and uh, my sister and my father were
(11:41):
standing there, and I said to my father, it's okay,
this isn't this is alright, and my because I had
seen obviously seen this being before, and my father said, nobody,
(12:02):
it's not all right. And under hypnosis, I remember the
surge of fear that went through me at that moment.
It was and my sister was standing hand in hand
with my father with this look of terror on her face,
(12:24):
and I realized that they were both scared, and I
should be scared too.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That I had not had a profound effect on you.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh you're not kidding it, sure did.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And you still have the implant in your ear.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yes, And that is the in many ways, it's the
most interesting thing about my case, which it's unique. It's
not the only implant, but the unique thing about it
is the videotaped attempt to remove it proves that it's
(13:02):
an anomalous object beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Who tried to remove Roger Lear or somebody else.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, No, a doctor in Texas tried to remove it,
and he thought it was a little cyst. Didn't. I
didn't tell him it was an alien implant, and he
he said, sure, I'll try it. I'll remove that. And
I went to his office and was furious because she
(13:28):
thought I should leave it in.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And it moves around right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, what happened was it's in the top part of
my ear, in the just below the top edge of
my ear, and he made an incision and opened it up,
and you can see on video you can see him
looking at it and looking at it, and they say
it's a white disc. And then it suddenly moves under
(13:58):
the skin down into my ear lobe, and they report
that they talk about it, meaning that it is obviously
an anomalous object, and it's that's video. It's there. So
people who say, oh, he dreamed it all up and
so forth, I did not, And that's proof I did not.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What years ago, Tom Danheiser and I went to an
operation that doctor Lear did here in La of a
lady who had an implant in her facial cheek, and
he went to get it and it moved all over
her face. He couldn't extract it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Couldn't extract it. No, you have to isolate them. In
other words, you can if there's one in somebody's toe
or something, you can. You can clamp around it so
that it can't get away and pull it out. I
was at a number of doctor Lear's surgeries, and some
(15:01):
of his implants were studied at Southwest Research in San
Antonio by my dear friend, doctor William Mallow, who was
the head of materials science there. But mine is still there,
and in fact, after any passed away, I learned how
to use it, and I use it in my work.
(15:22):
I used it in writing the new book.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Is it like a communication.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Device, It's more like a research tool. A few years ago,
a doctor connected with the Central Intelligence Agency wanted me
to get a CT scan of it, and two people
(15:52):
showed up at this apartment who knew a great deal
about it. This is a couple of days before the CT,
and they explained to me what it was. I already
had already discovered it was a brilliant research tool, and
(16:13):
I don't know how it worked, but I did know
that as I would write and work, it would bring
up all kinds of information, and it is obviously feed
your brain information sort of it. There's a there's a
sort of slit that opens in my eye. It's you
(16:35):
can see if you look against a white wall, you
can see words racing through the slit. And I I
had noticed that, but I hadn't really understood anything about it.
And they said that what it is doing is it's
(16:57):
bringing up memories, the information that you have forgotten, you know,
from deep in your mind, and as you work, it's
adding that to the information you have in the front
of your mind. And this is why when I'm writing,
it's so amazingly easy to call up all kinds of things,
(17:21):
like the references to scientific papers and all kinds of
detail that I would normally not be able to remember.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
What year do you think the implant was put in there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It was put in in May of nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Nine, four years after your communion episode.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
That's right, and it was put in by two people.
They weren't aliens as far as I could tell. I
was awake when it happened. We were at our cabin
in upstate New York, and the windows of the bedroom
(18:06):
we were in the upstairs bedroom we were in open
out on the driveway in the front and the deck
in the back, and they were all open because it
was a warm night. And suddenly I heard the crunching
of gravel in the driveway. And this was immediately concerning
because the gate was closed and there were no car lights,
(18:32):
and I thought, my god, there's somebody here, and that's
not good. Obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back to George Noriy along with Whitley Strieber. Whitley,
I'll let you wrap up your thoughts on the President
Trump in disclosure and then we'll get into Transformation twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Okay, Well, what I was going to say is this,
he has the bully pulpit. He's the president of United States.
If he says something, everyone in the world is going
to hear that at some point. But he does not
have the same level of authority that in many parts
(00:36):
of the culture that previous presidents did. He's unique in
this respect because the country is so polarized in the
world too, People like liberals and so forth are not
necessarily going to believe him. And the people who are
going to be most affected by the shock of this,
(01:02):
the reality of an alien presence overturning their whole worldview,
are the same people were least likely to believe him.
And I think it's a rare opportunity for the visitors
to start bleeding this out into the public without causing
(01:23):
people to go into a state of shock like this
shock that immobilized the Incas when Pizarro showed up, they
basically just were unable to They were unable to function,
(01:46):
they couldn't respond, And the same was true with the Aztecs.
They thought Cortess and his men were God. Cazekodal come
back to Earth, and they were unable to fight for
their own world successfully and they fell to it. So
(02:13):
these things are all in their minds, and I think
that there's a possibility that the Trump administration might do this.
But unfortunately Pete Hegseth gave the project of going through
(02:34):
and releasing all of the UFO files to the All
Domain Anomalies Research Organization ARROW, which has already proven that
it's a highly unreliable element. It's not going to it's
already lied extensively about UFOs, and I think that it's
(02:59):
fairly that'll continue to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Unfortunately, Wedly, this episode started for you in nineteen eighty five,
did it not.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, I had had this in my life as a child,
but I had forgotten it. And the reason is that
it's the same reason my son, who had it in
his life as a child, has forgotten it. It's not
talked about, and you don't have any place to put
(03:33):
the memories, they fade away, and that happened to me
as a boy. So when they reappeared in my life
in nineteen eighty five, I had no idea that this
could even happen. None, I wasn't hadn't thought about flying
saucers since I was a child, and I was totally
(04:00):
thrown I really for the few weeks after it. Initially
the abduction I had in late nineteen eighty five happened,
I assume first it was a crime because I was
obviously I was assaulted, I was injured. And then when
(04:22):
it didn't seem possible that it was a crime, I
just didn't know what to make of it. And eventually
met about Hopkins, who was studying alien abduction.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
One of the best, wasn't he well.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
At the time, I thought he was a complete nut,
you know, And and I went my wife Anna and
I went to see him because there was a book
called Science in the UFOs that did describe my something
similar to what happened to me, what I remembered happening
(05:01):
to me, And we sort of went to see him
and thinking that, you know, he's not obviously, but maybe
there's something in this and that was then I. He
introduced me to doctor Donald Klein, who was the one
(05:21):
of the most important psychiatrists in the New York in
the United States. He was the head of the New
York State Department of Psychiatry and also a well or
renowned forensic hypnotist. And don't ever let you anyone tell
you hypnosis doesn't work. That it does in the hands,
(05:42):
in the hands of the right person. And if there
was ever a right person, it was doctor Klein. He
had had in the record solved at that point in
his career over seventy cases using forensic hypnosis to help
help people remember things. So I thought, okay, that I'll
(06:05):
let the sky hypnotize me. And he and I talked
about it beforehand, and we were laughing up our sleeves
at bud because neither one of us thought I would
see aliens. And what we were thinking is that these
these big black eyes and strange faces that I remembered
(06:27):
would turn out to be masks. And I was hoping
that I would be able to identify enough about where
I was and so forth to provide evidence to the police,
because I still thought I had been assaulted it was
a crime, which it was but unfortunately it was not
a crime the police are going to solve in any case.
(06:53):
I had the hypnosis, and I'll never I was shocked
to my core when I realized that I was in
a little room full of giant insects. That's what it
looked like.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Was it the hypnosis that brought all this back to you?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
No, I had the memories by then. The day after,
I was very traumatized, and my memories were quite confused.
I remembered an owl in the house and things like that,
because these are these big eyes. And then over the
(07:31):
next couple of weeks it became more and more obvious
that the memory became started to come together, and I
remembered being taken out of the house, being in a
little room and seeing these creatures. And then it turned
(07:52):
out that I had been injured. My doctor diagnosed that
I had been raped, and I was horrified. I just
couldn't imagine what had happened to me.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You were around thirty nine, forty years old?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Then forty years old? Yeah, And I called the police.
I called the New York State Criminal Investigation Division and
got a detective out to the house. And he couldn't
he said, I don't have there's no point of entry,
there's no I don't know where to look for fingerprints.
You have no way to describe these people except that
(08:33):
they apparently were wearing masks, and there's no place for
me to start.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
At what point did you realize these weren't masks?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
During the hypnosis with doctor Klein, it became incredibly vivid,
and not only that, in the middle of it, my
voice changed. Apparently I wasn't aware of this, and doctor
Mine said, suddenly, how old are you? And I heard
(09:04):
my little boy Texas little boy voice, I'm from Texas
say twelve, and ah, I thought, what is going on here?
And I remembered an abduction experience with my father and
my sister back at the age of twelve. And doctor
(09:26):
Klein said, when people have been traumatized repeatedly in their
lives by the same thing, they will often regress back
like you just did, without realizing they have. And he said,
You've undoubtedly had this in your life for a long time.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And I know you're going to want someone after hearing this.
This is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine
years old now, was suffering with not just one or
two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts
all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability
to really function.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.
It was Tie's book actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It is an amazing immunal modulator, and so I can
see that it would work. And so at what point
did you see that there was actually improvement it's really
going to work.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller
and then going down to with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's
you know one the size of the wanner. I thought,
no way, that's gonna wow. That's just been miraculous to
see him get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's great to see him so happy and yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Competent, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Friends that have seen it that is blown away.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Ti, this is awesome, Yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora call them
to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called
one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.
That's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven
thirty five. Or visit Carnivora dot com c A r
niv O r A carnivora dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Those that got you when you were twelve, were they
the same ones that got you when you were forty?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I remember being in a room full of cots with
soldiers on the cots, and one of these beings was
moving among the soldiers with the little wond in her hand,
touching them, and uh, my sister and my father were
(11:41):
standing there, and I said to my father, it's okay,
this isn't this is alright, and my because I had
seen obviously seen this being before, and my father said, nobody,
(12:02):
it's not all right. And under hypnosis, I remember the
surge of fear that went through me at that moment.
It was and my sister was standing hand in hand
with my father with this look of terror on her face,
(12:24):
and I realized that they were both scared, and I
should be scared too.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That I had not had a profound effect on you.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh you're not kidding it, sure did.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And you still have the implant in your ear.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yes, And that is the in many ways, it's the
most interesting thing about my case, which it's unique. It's
not the only implant, but the unique thing about it
is the videotaped attempt to remove it proves that it's
(13:02):
an anomalous object beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Who tried to remove Roger Lear or somebody else.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, No, a doctor in Texas tried to remove it,
and he thought it was a little cyst. Didn't. I
didn't tell him it was an alien implant, and he
he said, sure, I'll try it. I'll remove that. And
I went to his office and was furious because she
(13:28):
thought I should leave it in.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And it moves around right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, what happened was it's in the top part of
my ear, in the just below the top edge of
my ear, and he made an incision and opened it up,
and you can see on video you can see him
looking at it and looking at it, and they say
it's a white disc. And then it suddenly moves under
(13:58):
the skin down into my ear lobe, and they report
that they talk about it, meaning that it is obviously
an anomalous object, and it's that's video. It's there. So
people who say, oh, he dreamed it all up and
so forth, I did not, And that's proof I did not.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What years ago, Tom Danheiser and I went to an
operation that doctor Lear did here in La of a
lady who had an implant in her facial cheek, and
he went to get it and it moved all over
her face. He couldn't extract it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Couldn't extract it. No, you have to isolate them. In
other words, you can if there's one in somebody's toe
or something, you can. You can clamp around it so
that it can't get away and pull it out. I
was at a number of doctor Lear's surgeries, and some
(15:01):
of his implants were studied at Southwest Research in San
Antonio by my dear friend, doctor William Mallow, who was
the head of materials science there. But mine is still there,
and in fact, after any passed away, I learned how
to use it, and I use it in my work.
(15:22):
I used it in writing the new book.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Is it like a communication.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Device, It's more like a research tool. A few years ago,
a doctor connected with the Central Intelligence Agency wanted me
to get a CT scan of it, and two people
(15:52):
showed up at this apartment who knew a great deal
about it. This is a couple of days before the CT,
and they explained to me what it was. I already
had already discovered it was a brilliant research tool, and
(16:13):
I don't know how it worked, but I did know
that as I would write and work, it would bring
up all kinds of information, and it is obviously feed
your brain information sort of it. There's a there's a
sort of slit that opens in my eye. It's you
(16:35):
can see if you look against a white wall, you
can see words racing through the slit. And I I
had noticed that, but I hadn't really understood anything about it.
And they said that what it is doing is it's
(16:57):
bringing up memories, the information that you have forgotten, you know,
from deep in your mind, and as you work, it's
adding that to the information you have in the front
of your mind. And this is why when I'm writing,
it's so amazingly easy to call up all kinds of things,
(17:21):
like the references to scientific papers and all kinds of
detail that I would normally not be able to remember.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
What year do you think the implant was put in there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It was put in in May of nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Nine, four years after your communion episode.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
That's right, and it was put in by two people.
They weren't aliens as far as I could tell. I
was awake when it happened. We were at our cabin
in upstate New York, and the windows of the bedroom
(18:06):
we were in the upstairs bedroom we were in open
out on the driveway in the front and the deck
in the back, and they were all open because it
was a warm night. And suddenly I heard the crunching
of gravel in the driveway. And this was immediately concerning
because the gate was closed and there were no car lights,
(18:32):
and I thought, my god, there's somebody here, and that's
not good. Obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
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