April 26, 2026 • 16 mins
Guest host Richard Syrett and archaeologist Dr. Heather Lynn discuss the migration of the Anunnaki and Stargates.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Doctor Heatherlin. We were talking earlier about the Denis Evans
and whether they were related or one and the same
as the Atonaki. So was it the just so I'm
clear on this, was it the Anonaki who swept down
into Samaria ancient Mesopotamia after the the the ice age?
(00:28):
Where they were the ones then that comprised what this
priestly cast that were taking opioids and communicating with these
ultra terrestrials, getting their marching orders from them, if you will, well.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
When do you say it like that? It sounds a
little bonkers, but yes, I would say that would be
a fair description of basically climate migrants that you know.
I mean, you have to take it back to the
Noah's ark story and not the one from the Bible
that we're familiar with, but the ones according to the Sumerians.
So the different stories kind of coalesce into one particular
(01:08):
text that describes a very specific scenario, and that is
they're Noah figure who sees that there's something coming and
warns other people, but not the family, not like what
we would understand is gathering up his family, but rather
gathering up the top scientists experts in the arts and
(01:30):
getting them together to create a breakaway civilization. The actual
words and the texts say they collect all the animals
of the step to take with them, which would be
different than, of course, all of the animals in the
entire world. And so now a different picture is emerging.
So they're the animals of the step, and so in
this step you have particular animals that are ungulates. They're
(01:53):
eating grass, they're able to be mobile, and what we
know about Eurasian Step populations, they're nomadic. And what they've
able to do to survive through that lifestyle is they
take their animals and those are a source of nutrients,
and you can do a lot of things with those animals.
Apart from just eating them. You can, unfortunately, as sad
(02:13):
as it sounds, you can bleed them and have nutrients
through the blood while keeping the animal alive, which is
very good in a time of scarcity. Then you also
have the ability to have dairy so animal protein that way.
So you have basically a caravan of traveling peoples. And
(02:33):
they gathered up those animals of this step and they
left and they headed to different regions and encountered over
mountains and crossing mountains, they came down, they descended, and
they encountered the groups of a semi subtle hunter gatherers
in the region, and they created what would have been
I guess you could consider a cargo cult effect where
(02:54):
those individuals who were there, who by their stature would
have been roughly five foot tall at best because of
their nature of their nutrition and their lifestyle. And we
have this from the archaeological record the bodies that were
there before. So then you might have this other group
of individuals that had subsisted on animal protein and different
(03:17):
you know things that they had, and a perhaps more
advanced civilization. And when I say advanced, I don't necessarily
mean that they had, you know, apple watches and that
sort of thing, but they had something plentiful. And so
this goes it speaks a little bit to the Atlantis
myth as well. I'm sure people are picking up on that,
and not the Atlantis of say Aquaman, but the Atlantis
(03:39):
of you know, the Plato's account and perhaps even older
in the Egyptian account. So this idea of an Antediluvian civilization,
and that would explain all of the different flood myths,
so it wasn't one big flood, but it kind of
was in the sense that a lot of different things
were happening due to you know, ents melting of glacial
(04:02):
ice and having all sorts of flooding and things happening
and displacing many different people. And so this particular group
was able to leave as a breakaway civilization, and they
were the technocratic elites. They brought the animals of this step.
They encountered those semi settled hunter gatherers who they called
the Atama, and who themselves said they were the black
(04:26):
headed ones, which would indicate that they had different hair
color than the ones who invaded. And they would also
indicate that the Atoma, which is an interesting thing that
we pick up in the Abrahamic view of how man
was made Adam Adama. Adama is the man made of clay.
So you see that in the stories that God made
(04:48):
the human out of a clay of the earth. And
it's a close translation because then Atama meant the red
clay of the earth, and that particular red clay in
that region of Mesopotamia was very different and special for
its color. And what we have with the archaeological record
is the evidence that those individuals, at least in funerary rites,
(05:10):
rub that ochre on their bodies. And it would make
sense then to presume that they did that in life
as well, because that's not an uncommon human behavior. So
if you imagine a scenario where these breakaway technocratic elite
priest class, if you will, descend into a valley region
and see these red people with dark hair and they
(05:32):
don't speak the language, and they set themselves up as
the gods and necessitate a priest class, a priest class
just being the ones who can speak between the two,
and that's a very powerful position. Likewise, we come to
then the idea of the genetic manipulation and what we
know that they did and the enslavement that Sitchen talks about.
What we know that they did based on the text
(05:55):
is they enslaved those people that they encountered and made
them force them to start doing agricultural work. They forced
them to worship them, which in the text actually meant
work for and they gave them specific instructions on what
animals to sacrifice and how to prepare them for consumption.
(06:17):
And so they had all kinds of just different ideas
of taboo foods like you never boil the meat. They
wanted it grilled. I mean, who could blame them, but
that was the preference that they had. And then you
would have the prohibition on them breeding with the atama.
And this comes from another idea of them being the
(06:39):
agriculturists or the ones who understood how to do what's
called animal husbandry, so the breeding. So when it comes
down to the idea of okay, did they manipulate our DNA,
did they make us a slave class, etc. All of
these things, the answer is, like the Stargate question, It's
not is it like thing that we're imagining from, say
(07:02):
film or something more creative, but what how could that look?
So rather than look at those texts and say, well,
those those ancient people were silly and they were just
telling stories, we can say how could this be true?
And how it could be true is by simply prohibitions
on the breeding and eugenics and saying that you know,
we're going to breed you to be the most you know,
(07:26):
submissive or better at certain things or the other. Because
these people, these on a Naki individuals, they understood what
it would take to have domestication of animals, and so
they brought in a social stratification system to Mesopotamia, and
that's what we call civilization. It's a structure of hierarchy
(07:47):
that's exploitive and it's something that then later what you
find is the idea of Ankee that has this Promethean
aspect where he goes and says, you know, I don't
think we're treating these humans very well and decides to
empower them. And how does he empower them. He tells
them things, He explains things to them, gives them the word,
(08:09):
and teaches them the technologies. It basically says, you know,
the wizard is behind the curtain. It exposes those elites
for what they were, and then there's a rebellion and.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I know you're going to want some them after hearing this.
This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen and Malachi
Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. Now I understand that Malachi,
who is eight almost nine years old now, was suffering
with not just one or two warts, but I mean
a significant outbreak of warts all over his body, so
significant it impacted his ability to really function.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil
to right Epi's book.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can
see that it would work. And so at what point
did you see that there was actually improvement it's really
going to work.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller
and then going down to the with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's
you know.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
One the size for the warner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see him
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
It's great to see him so happy and yes.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Confident, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Friends that have seen it, that is blown away. TI,
this is awesome. Yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. Call them
to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called
one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.
That's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven
thirty five, or visit Carnivora dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
C A. R.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Niv O r. Carnivora dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The serpent in the garden who says eat from the
tree of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yes, actually, and it has that serpent motif all the
way through as well. And so that is I think
an older oral tradition that has been written down multiple times.
And you see that too in the back to sort
of the idea of this upcalu though, like, what were
these these entities, the Onunaki, Where were they getting these ideas?
(10:16):
How were they so advanced? And what's interesting is when
you look at the Uric lists of kings and sages.
This is a very important tablet. It discusses the earliest
kings of sumer and each one had a sage attached
to it, and the sage was one of these Upkalu.
They were associated with these seven stars of the Palladian
(10:37):
star system. They were associated with this particular sort of,
as I said before, a semi biological entity that could
manifest in and out of reality. Visually. They would be
coming out of the oceans and out from the sky,
and their job was to teach technology, and they were
the thing whispering in the ears of the king and
(11:00):
those kings. After a while, you see that kind of
go away, and those kings become Aunaki, as in they
take the name of Lord, they become that. So in
some ways, which you could say, and now this is
a stretch, but it's not really if you think about
it in this context, in some ways you could say
that the kings, later the Anunaki kings, were actually possessed
(11:22):
by these sages, and so you have that framework then
going on into other traditions throughout Mesopotamia and the Mediterranean
with the idea of the king or the ruler becoming
the God and being worshiped as the God. And so
how could you become the God but by being possessed
by that god spirit?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
What would the late doctor Michael Heiser say about this?
Would he say that the Anaki were conversing with the
watchers fallen angels as in the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think he would say that. I think he would
say that, yes, and I don't know that he would
have been far off from that. I just think that
there's a few things that I think the texts would
read differently, as in this the more human type framework,
where the prohibition on breeding between the on Unaki class
and then the farmer class that was broken as we know,
(12:19):
and then they were able to mate it. And this
would be something just on an anthropological level would make
sense because you can't really, i mean, breed in perpetuity
with the same tiny group. Eventually that would loosen up
and people would assimilate, which the genetic evidence of course
has happened, so they would genetically have assimilated. But in
that time before it was just a given, there would
(12:42):
have been a social tension there and they would have said, no,
you know, you don't breed with these, you know adoma.
But then when it would have happened, the babies, the
fruit of that would have been looked at with great
skepticism and could have been called then something like giants
or nephelim or any other of you know, name you
want to call them. So I think there's a couple
(13:04):
different things at play here. Likewise, when you get to
the question of Ananaki versus Upcallu, and I think that
that is where we'll get more of our information, is
when we can go through and really sift out the details,
because you have to consider this time span of this
Mesopotamian religion is thousands of years. You have the Sumerian,
(13:25):
which is very old. But over time they were conquered
and assimilated with different groups of people, and then we
have Assyrians, Babylonians and so on, and so a lot
of the truth has been buried deep within the language,
arts and culture of that time.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Have we talked about the Tablet of Destinies yet?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So what is the tablet of destinies and why does
it matter?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, the Tablet of Destinies, it's probably one of the
lesser known I would say mythic items. You have, of course,
the sphere of destiny and that sort of thing, and
it's an object that some people are actually wanting to,
I would argue, find. And so the tablet of Destinies,
(14:17):
it's first mentioned, and it's not the tablets of Destiny,
and that's just to be clear. It's one tablet that
contains the destinies. It's first mentioned in the anuma Elish
and that was basically an object that originally belonged to
Tiamot and it was passed to Marduk after her defeat.
(14:37):
And what's important about it, it's a very old story,
of course, it's a very laid out story, and the
tablet contained what's called the May. It's spelled me, but
it's pronounced May, and that was the fundamental principles governing
all civilization and what you did when you had the tablet,
it gave you the ultimate power to decree destinies. Hence
(15:00):
the Tablet of Destinies. The modern parallel would have been
something like the Arc of the Covenant, or probably I
think better, the Holy Grail I think aligns with it
a little better. But that is something that people have
been interested in finding, you know, for quite a while.
There's not necessarily evidence that the Nazi on a nervee
(15:20):
was specifically looking for that, but they were close and
other people have been trying. But it's very difficult because
I said, if it's a tablet, could be very small,
but there could be many of them, like the Gilgamesh tablet,
where there's bits and pieces everywhere, and maybe it's like
you know, gathering infinity stones. You have to somehow piece
them all together and find out what it is. But
(15:41):
the idea is that if you had the tablet, whoever
had the tablet would have all the power, both like
in a divine sense in a practical sense to be
able to say what happens. It's my view that if
we were to look at this in such a way
that it could make sense, perhaps think of the great
(16:02):
knowledge that is demonstrated that the people at the time
had on math. I think that that is where the
technology would be. That perhaps the maze, as they're called,
the fundamental principles that govern the civilizations was basically code,
that perhaps they had some sort of code or some
(16:22):
sort of information that would allow them to have the
upper hand on what it would be to govern.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Doctor Heatherlin. We were talking earlier about the Denis Evans
and whether they were related or one and the same
as the Atonaki. So was it the just so I'm
clear on this, was it the Anonaki who swept down
into Samaria ancient Mesopotamia after the the the ice age?
(00:28):
Where they were the ones then that comprised what this
priestly cast that were taking opioids and communicating with these
ultra terrestrials, getting their marching orders from them, if you will, well.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
When do you say it like that? It sounds a
little bonkers, but yes, I would say that would be
a fair description of basically climate migrants that you know.
I mean, you have to take it back to the
Noah's ark story and not the one from the Bible
that we're familiar with, but the ones according to the Sumerians.
So the different stories kind of coalesce into one particular
(01:08):
text that describes a very specific scenario, and that is
they're Noah figure who sees that there's something coming and
warns other people, but not the family, not like what
we would understand is gathering up his family, but rather
gathering up the top scientists experts in the arts and
(01:30):
getting them together to create a breakaway civilization. The actual
words and the texts say they collect all the animals
of the step to take with them, which would be
different than, of course, all of the animals in the
entire world. And so now a different picture is emerging.
So they're the animals of the step, and so in
this step you have particular animals that are ungulates. They're
(01:53):
eating grass, they're able to be mobile, and what we
know about Eurasian Step populations, they're nomadic. And what they've
able to do to survive through that lifestyle is they
take their animals and those are a source of nutrients,
and you can do a lot of things with those animals.
Apart from just eating them. You can, unfortunately, as sad
(02:13):
as it sounds, you can bleed them and have nutrients
through the blood while keeping the animal alive, which is
very good in a time of scarcity. Then you also
have the ability to have dairy so animal protein that way.
So you have basically a caravan of traveling peoples. And
(02:33):
they gathered up those animals of this step and they
left and they headed to different regions and encountered over
mountains and crossing mountains, they came down, they descended, and
they encountered the groups of a semi subtle hunter gatherers
in the region, and they created what would have been
I guess you could consider a cargo cult effect where
(02:54):
those individuals who were there, who by their stature would
have been roughly five foot tall at best because of
their nature of their nutrition and their lifestyle. And we
have this from the archaeological record the bodies that were
there before. So then you might have this other group
of individuals that had subsisted on animal protein and different
(03:17):
you know things that they had, and a perhaps more
advanced civilization. And when I say advanced, I don't necessarily
mean that they had, you know, apple watches and that
sort of thing, but they had something plentiful. And so
this goes it speaks a little bit to the Atlantis
myth as well. I'm sure people are picking up on that,
and not the Atlantis of say Aquaman, but the Atlantis
(03:39):
of you know, the Plato's account and perhaps even older
in the Egyptian account. So this idea of an Antediluvian civilization,
and that would explain all of the different flood myths,
so it wasn't one big flood, but it kind of
was in the sense that a lot of different things
were happening due to you know, ents melting of glacial
(04:02):
ice and having all sorts of flooding and things happening
and displacing many different people. And so this particular group
was able to leave as a breakaway civilization, and they
were the technocratic elites. They brought the animals of this step.
They encountered those semi settled hunter gatherers who they called
the Atama, and who themselves said they were the black
(04:26):
headed ones, which would indicate that they had different hair
color than the ones who invaded. And they would also
indicate that the Atoma, which is an interesting thing that
we pick up in the Abrahamic view of how man
was made Adam Adama. Adama is the man made of clay.
So you see that in the stories that God made
(04:48):
the human out of a clay of the earth. And
it's a close translation because then Atama meant the red
clay of the earth, and that particular red clay in
that region of Mesopotamia was very different and special for
its color. And what we have with the archaeological record
is the evidence that those individuals, at least in funerary rites,
(05:10):
rub that ochre on their bodies. And it would make
sense then to presume that they did that in life
as well, because that's not an uncommon human behavior. So
if you imagine a scenario where these breakaway technocratic elite
priest class, if you will, descend into a valley region
and see these red people with dark hair and they
(05:32):
don't speak the language, and they set themselves up as
the gods and necessitate a priest class, a priest class
just being the ones who can speak between the two,
and that's a very powerful position. Likewise, we come to
then the idea of the genetic manipulation and what we
know that they did and the enslavement that Sitchen talks about.
What we know that they did based on the text
(05:55):
is they enslaved those people that they encountered and made
them force them to start doing agricultural work. They forced
them to worship them, which in the text actually meant
work for and they gave them specific instructions on what
animals to sacrifice and how to prepare them for consumption.
(06:17):
And so they had all kinds of just different ideas
of taboo foods like you never boil the meat. They
wanted it grilled. I mean, who could blame them, but
that was the preference that they had. And then you
would have the prohibition on them breeding with the atama.
And this comes from another idea of them being the
(06:39):
agriculturists or the ones who understood how to do what's
called animal husbandry, so the breeding. So when it comes
down to the idea of okay, did they manipulate our DNA,
did they make us a slave class, etc. All of
these things, the answer is, like the Stargate question, It's
not is it like thing that we're imagining from, say
(07:02):
film or something more creative, but what how could that look?
So rather than look at those texts and say, well,
those those ancient people were silly and they were just
telling stories, we can say how could this be true?
And how it could be true is by simply prohibitions
on the breeding and eugenics and saying that you know,
we're going to breed you to be the most you know,
(07:26):
submissive or better at certain things or the other. Because
these people, these on a Naki individuals, they understood what
it would take to have domestication of animals, and so
they brought in a social stratification system to Mesopotamia, and
that's what we call civilization. It's a structure of hierarchy
(07:47):
that's exploitive and it's something that then later what you
find is the idea of Ankee that has this Promethean
aspect where he goes and says, you know, I don't
think we're treating these humans very well and decides to
empower them. And how does he empower them. He tells
them things, He explains things to them, gives them the word,
(08:09):
and teaches them the technologies. It basically says, you know,
the wizard is behind the curtain. It exposes those elites
for what they were, and then there's a rebellion and.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I know you're going to want some them after hearing this.
This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen and Malachi
Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. Now I understand that Malachi,
who is eight almost nine years old now, was suffering
with not just one or two warts, but I mean
a significant outbreak of warts all over his body, so
significant it impacted his ability to really function.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil
to right Epi's book.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Actually that got me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can
see that it would work. And so at what point
did you see that there was actually improvement it's really
going to work.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.
You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller
and then going down to the with just little red marks.
The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's
you know.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
One the size for the warner. I thought, no way,
that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see him
get into a pair of shoes.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes, how wonderful.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
It's great to see him so happy and yes.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Confident, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Friends that have seen it, that is blown away. TI,
this is awesome. Yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. Call them
to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called
one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.
That's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven
thirty five, or visit Carnivora dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
C A. R.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Niv O r. Carnivora dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The serpent in the garden who says eat from the
tree of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yes, actually, and it has that serpent motif all the
way through as well. And so that is I think
an older oral tradition that has been written down multiple times.
And you see that too in the back to sort
of the idea of this upcalu though, like, what were
these these entities, the Onunaki, Where were they getting these ideas?
(10:16):
How were they so advanced? And what's interesting is when
you look at the Uric lists of kings and sages.
This is a very important tablet. It discusses the earliest
kings of sumer and each one had a sage attached
to it, and the sage was one of these Upkalu.
They were associated with these seven stars of the Palladian
(10:37):
star system. They were associated with this particular sort of,
as I said before, a semi biological entity that could
manifest in and out of reality. Visually. They would be
coming out of the oceans and out from the sky,
and their job was to teach technology, and they were
the thing whispering in the ears of the king and
(11:00):
those kings. After a while, you see that kind of
go away, and those kings become Aunaki, as in they
take the name of Lord, they become that. So in
some ways, which you could say, and now this is
a stretch, but it's not really if you think about
it in this context, in some ways you could say
that the kings, later the Anunaki kings, were actually possessed
(11:22):
by these sages, and so you have that framework then
going on into other traditions throughout Mesopotamia and the Mediterranean
with the idea of the king or the ruler becoming
the God and being worshiped as the God. And so
how could you become the God but by being possessed
by that god spirit?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
What would the late doctor Michael Heiser say about this?
Would he say that the Anaki were conversing with the
watchers fallen angels as in the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think he would say that. I think he would
say that, yes, and I don't know that he would
have been far off from that. I just think that
there's a few things that I think the texts would
read differently, as in this the more human type framework,
where the prohibition on breeding between the on Unaki class
and then the farmer class that was broken as we know,
(12:19):
and then they were able to mate it. And this
would be something just on an anthropological level would make
sense because you can't really, i mean, breed in perpetuity
with the same tiny group. Eventually that would loosen up
and people would assimilate, which the genetic evidence of course
has happened, so they would genetically have assimilated. But in
that time before it was just a given, there would
(12:42):
have been a social tension there and they would have said, no,
you know, you don't breed with these, you know adoma.
But then when it would have happened, the babies, the
fruit of that would have been looked at with great
skepticism and could have been called then something like giants
or nephelim or any other of you know, name you
want to call them. So I think there's a couple
(13:04):
different things at play here. Likewise, when you get to
the question of Ananaki versus Upcallu, and I think that
that is where we'll get more of our information, is
when we can go through and really sift out the details,
because you have to consider this time span of this
Mesopotamian religion is thousands of years. You have the Sumerian,
(13:25):
which is very old. But over time they were conquered
and assimilated with different groups of people, and then we
have Assyrians, Babylonians and so on, and so a lot
of the truth has been buried deep within the language,
arts and culture of that time.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Have we talked about the Tablet of Destinies yet?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So what is the tablet of destinies and why does
it matter?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, the Tablet of Destinies, it's probably one of the
lesser known I would say mythic items. You have, of course,
the sphere of destiny and that sort of thing, and
it's an object that some people are actually wanting to,
I would argue, find. And so the tablet of Destinies,
(14:17):
it's first mentioned, and it's not the tablets of Destiny,
and that's just to be clear. It's one tablet that
contains the destinies. It's first mentioned in the anuma Elish
and that was basically an object that originally belonged to
Tiamot and it was passed to Marduk after her defeat.
(14:37):
And what's important about it, it's a very old story,
of course, it's a very laid out story, and the
tablet contained what's called the May. It's spelled me, but
it's pronounced May, and that was the fundamental principles governing
all civilization and what you did when you had the tablet,
it gave you the ultimate power to decree destinies. Hence
(15:00):
the Tablet of Destinies. The modern parallel would have been
something like the Arc of the Covenant, or probably I
think better, the Holy Grail I think aligns with it
a little better. But that is something that people have
been interested in finding, you know, for quite a while.
There's not necessarily evidence that the Nazi on a nervee
(15:20):
was specifically looking for that, but they were close and
other people have been trying. But it's very difficult because
I said, if it's a tablet, could be very small,
but there could be many of them, like the Gilgamesh tablet,
where there's bits and pieces everywhere, and maybe it's like
you know, gathering infinity stones. You have to somehow piece
them all together and find out what it is. But
(15:41):
the idea is that if you had the tablet, whoever
had the tablet would have all the power, both like
in a divine sense in a practical sense to be
able to say what happens. It's my view that if
we were to look at this in such a way
that it could make sense, perhaps think of the great
(16:02):
knowledge that is demonstrated that the people at the time
had on math. I think that that is where the
technology would be. That perhaps the maze, as they're called,
the fundamental principles that govern the civilizations was basically code,
that perhaps they had some sort of code or some
(16:22):
sort of information that would allow them to have the
upper hand on what it would be to govern.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
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