December 7, 2025 • 25 mins
Why do sorority and fraternity members become contestants on ABC’s Bachelor and Bachelorette shows?
A significant percentage of the leads and contestants were in the Greek system.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. All right, you guys, so
we have the bachelor himself, Bob Guinea. I will say
this before we start. I have never had more people
say say hello to your guest for me from me, Yes,
you are well loved, my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's very sweet. Thank you. I appreciate here, of course.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So first of all, Bob, you went to Michigan State, yes,
and what fraternity were you in?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I was an ATO at Michigan State epsilon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Eight of chapter Okay, back in the day, back in
the day, well back in the day. I don't know
if you called it pregaming, which is what we're going
to talk about, because I certainly didn't. And now all
my kids talk about is you did' neither. You're younger
than me, but actually gets on my nerves a little now,
But we're still going to talk about it. That whole target.
All right, So tell me a little bit about how
you all quote unquote pre back at Michigan State.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm assuming that means pre partied, yes, right, and so
you know that's what I call it's a week probably
called it was pre partying, So yeah, I mean, you know,
it would basically be like before you went to a function,
or before you went to a game, or before you
went to I mean when I was living in the
frat house, it was probably before I went to class.
You know, we would just like saddle up and have
a couple of cocktails, turn on some.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Music, get kind of in the in the zone.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I guess, you know, you'd be basically kind of picking
up on you know, getting yourself in the mood to
party a little.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, And so yeah, I just did it yesterday. I
went to Detroit Lions game.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I invited all my friends to a restaurant that was
right nearby, and I had some clients with me and
some friends, and I'm like, hey, we're pre partying over here,
so come join us partying.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah. I have a hat time saying pregaming too. I
don't know why. I just feel like it's all the
young kids. Well you're a young kid, but so.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I am not. I am not a young kid at all.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
How old are you?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Fifty four?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Get that?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What do you know about pregaming? You're old like me?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I pre party.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's my said, you pre partied four Damn boy.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think I'm actually older than you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Probably I'm fifty seven, so I don't think so Okay, yeah,
you look fantastic. Well so do you all? Right back
to the subject at hand, anybody ever get crazy before?
Do you remember any times where you were pregaming pre
partying and no you made it to the actual party
or you didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh, I've been that guy.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I mean, I think I think you know, you know,
you can get you can get yourself going a little
bit too much at the pre party and by the
time the actual party begins, you're so you know, you've
you pre partied your way into full on post party.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, no, totally, you didn't make it to the party, right.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I probably never missed the party, but I definitely
have had some friends who have, you know, where they
just get all sloppy and you're like, oh, buddy, you
do not want to, you know, put yourself in this
situation right now, you look it out for your friends
when you're pulling them out of the party, right, but.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Especially when you're frat or a sorority, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, you don't wanted to make a fool themselves, especially
because a girl there that they like or whatever, and
the last thing you wanted to do is make a
full of themselves, and you know, missed the opportunity to
make a good impression.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You're a good you're a good man. Tell me what
music were you listening to? But do you remember? Because
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But you know, my musical tastes haven't really changed all
that much from then to now.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, I'm sure I had Journey on that. I
always love journey Going and every.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Man after my own heart. Yep, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I Actually I'm raising my kids to be the same way.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I had a six year old a four year old,
and they really were Yeah, yesterday they're like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Why is it? Don't stop believing playing? I'm like it will?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I love that is so yeah. I mean, because we're
on the same age, then it's music that could get
you like pumped, right. It was absolutely yeah. It wasn't
the ballads necessarily.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was a.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Fun era, right, So there was a lot of great
stuff back then. I mean, I don't know if you
were like echoing the Bunny Man and that, but I
got introduced to them in college and they had some
great you know, upbeat, and then I'd mix it in
with my classic rock favorites and put together a fun playlist.
I literally make a playlist for everything. Like when I
go golfing, I'll have a golf playlist. I go boating,
(04:10):
I got a boat playlist. Yeah, that's almost more important
to me. I am that guy. It's all about the
mood to me, and it's more important to me than
than the party itself.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Did you ever meet, speaking of the mood, did you
ever meet like a special woman, a special girl at
a pre party?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I mean sure, I'm sure I have.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You can't even remember. There were so many more interested
in your in your playlist. I know, I know, I
get that. Do you miss the chaos and togetherness of
a pregame? I could ask you that question, but you
already told me you're still pregaming yesterday this day.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I just did it yesterday, and so I'm not
missing it today. In fact, I am the opposite of
missing it. I'm regretting it. I get that exhausted, and
I wish that I wouldn't have pregamed. See now, at
my age, the game is the game. The game, yea,
the pregame becomes the game. And then I've also like,
I got to have an espresso martini or five in
(05:08):
there because I need the energy now. Or back in
the day that probably would have put me through the roof.
But now I like to have an espresso martini because
I feel like I can still have a cocktail, but
it gives me a little more energy to give something.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I never drink them, and maybe that's the issue, because
I can't pregame better be at seven pm, because nine
pm I'm headed right into ram I like, I can't.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You should try it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Espress really good. Yeah, I feel like dessert.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well I used to. I think they used to be.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now I feel like they've become a little bit more
of a prime and the pump.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Type of beverage.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Right, what did you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Say, priming the pump, prime the.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Pump, baby? You are a frat boy. You are still
a frap boy.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, it's so great. I love it. I love it.
So I've questioned, I wonder if you can remember any
of this. Did your pregames ever turn into full blown
emotional therapy? So it's an interesting question. I don't remember
ever getting deep at a free at a pregame. No,
I mean, I'm you know, it was just all about
what boy is here?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We yeah, my buddies were more about let's let's have
some cocktails, let's have some fun. Yeah, it really wasn't that.
That wasn't the time that, don't get me wrong. Later
in life, I wouldn't say a pre a pre party
would turn into that, but you know, later in life,
it's almost like the post party.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Might turn inteah. Right, we're sitting there, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And and for me, you know, my my father just
passed away not too long.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I'm so sorry, literally thank you. I mean it's it's
two years now or three years now.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But my my buddies brought him up last night because
everyone just loved my dad so much, and and that
that was I guess that kind of was a little
bit of an emotional moment at a at a pre party,
but it was a happy emotional moment. It was like,
you know, oh he was the best, wasn't he? Oh man,
we love when we miss him. Let's get back to
our cocktails, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So it was a we.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Paid homage and then we got you know, we got
right back after it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I'm getting to the age myself where drinking a
lot is always going to turn into weeping probably, yeah, right,
just getting a stoutied and weeping. It's perfect. That should
be a book. All right, listen, thank you for coming on.
You're a dom what a charmer. You and I have
to pre game sometime soon. I would, but no game.
(07:14):
That's all I can do is a pregame. They were
going to bed.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Thank you, Thank you, my friend. Be well, all right,
you guys, guess who we have? We have Mercedes and
(07:39):
Jonathan from the Bachelor. How you guys? Hey, okay, so
you were both in involved a Greek life. So Mercedes,
you went to Iowa State and what sorority were you in?
Delta Zeta Delta Zeta okay. Jonathan you went to Chapman
and you were in Fiji and just for our listeners,
that's five gamma delta right. Okay, Well, listen, we're talking
(08:02):
today about pregaming, and I was talking about Guinea and
I was saying, like, back in the day, we did
not use that term, and now I just if I
hear one more time, it will be one time too many.
But we didn't. We just went out and before we
went to the game. We all just hung out at
the Sami.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
House drink before the drinks, I.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Guess, But it wasn't like a thing like you have
to like I feel like, yeah, you have to pregame night.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
So sure, it's definitely like okay, so where are we pregaming?
It's like always like it's part of this.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Also postgaming too, there is yes, oh yeah, like the
party is loud and obnoxious, and then you go postgame
where it's like chill and you can have like a nightcap.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Ah. So I would dig that way more than probably
the pregaming or the party. Uh tell me, like what
it was like though in your house Jonathan before I
mean while you were in college, Like what was it?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Uh, well, you always too, and we were talking about
this off camera. Actually is you always pregame the pre
game too, because pregames where you going, you like actually
get to like talk and like mingle with people. So
you want to have a good off a little bit.
So usually when I was getting ready, i'd be in
the shower. I'd have one of the guys just throw
me a drink, and I just have a drink in
the shower.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I'm getting ready for the day.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
A little sadly.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Oh yeah, maybe I'll try. You have like a white
claw in the shower.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
A white claw in the shower.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You take like a bubble bath, and you have like
a glass of red wine with you. Yeah, but you're
getting ready to shill out.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, you got an issue about that another time. That's kidding,
just kiddy. What about you, Mercedes?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Yeah, I feel like I always stay.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
It was very much a party scene, so we were
always pregaming and the same thing. Like the girls would
get together before the actual pregame because when you go
to the bars or like the party or whatever, it's loud,
it's obnoxious, and everyone's just kind of like dancing, vibing
and not really having conversations. Right, So you would take
the edge off with the pre pregame with the girls
and then go with the like the big group of
guys and girls mix, talk whatever, and then go to
(09:52):
the party.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It definitely makes sense because I know it is like
before maybe you hit the party with both sexes. You
do want to like get your flow for sure.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You also don't have the confidence you do as an
adult back in college. You're like, all right, we're going
to talk to girls, take a couple of drinks. You
still don't talk to girls, But.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Do you guys have either one of you have a
signature pre party drink.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Now that I'm older, Espresso martini for sure, to.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Make sure that's just what you just said, that I
drink mine with tequila.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, spresso martini with tequila.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Yes, game changer, so good. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's okay for all you little ones out there, get
your get your tequila in your espresso martini. What about music, guys,
what any favorites things that you're listening to, like in
college or pregaming, Like, was there just stuff that got
you pumped up?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Mm?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You remember anything?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
I'm trying to think of, Like it's probably always.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Rap, honestly, it was either that or like you have
friends that are like into the oldies and they think
it's like really sick, and then you kind of get
on board of that too, Like they'll play like Billy
Joel and everybody's singing along in that's also kind of
a vibe too.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So that's my vibe actually.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Really really old.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's the truth about country. And this is now I'm
off the topic of pregaming, but you guys, because I
know like now, I feel like a lot of colleges
the kids are listening to country music.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, I love countries country.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Wow, you guys.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Ever met before?
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Like twice?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I like it. What were the nights to go out
at your schools oy Like.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Wednesday through Saturday.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
W Wednesdays went to the bars on Thursday, Friday, Saturday
our house parties and then Sunday if you're watching the game,
you can have day drinks.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
But then you kind of just chill out.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
What about shots? You guys we fans of shots or
because I know for me that never ended?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Well, yeah, shots yourself? Like shots?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
It was like you take poles, Yes, you just take
the bottle and you just take a poll.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
From So everything has to have a new name.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So what we did going out, we would take water
bottles like plastic water bottles and fill it up with
vodka and we would take that into the party and
just yeah, just take poles.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Out of it. I mean crazy sexual. So now you're
taking a pole that's.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The world into literally And also if I did that,
now I look back on that time of my life,
I'm like, how the hell did I survive? Like I
if I did that now, I would be like not okay,
the next day I would be on my deathbed.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I will say most subtle flex ever ill yet have
a hangover.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Ever, you've never had a hangover in the shower. Still,
Maybe that's the key.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Maybe it's the key. The shower is the key.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I don't know what's wrong over. I don't know how
it's even possible.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Amazing, that's something to be proud of me. That is.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, do you guys, I don't really drink that much?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
All right? Yeah, so you guys are starting with the
white claw. But do you ever like you ever hear
liquor before in the clear? So do you ever follow
those rules?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I'm like such like I feel like I start with
like espresso martinis now, and then like I might have
like a glass of wine, and then we'll go into
like liquor and then maybe a beard a bend, which is.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Like so crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
That's that's like a big night out. Okay, that's like
I'm like.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Out from like six to do you steal pregame? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, that you say, Okay, before we go to jingle ball,
we have the pregame probably yeah for.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Suwe like I don't go out that much anymore. But
if I'm gonna actually go out for like a night
and I know I'm gonna have like a good night, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Because is it also just that you want to get
like the espresso win Is it kind of like just
or just.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
If I'm having like a full night, I'll probably just
start with like some Seltzers and then I'll have an
espresso Martina or something to get the vibes up and
then all right.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like my pregame now, like sometimes
the girls will get together, but sometimes we're like also
so last minute. So maybe it's just like having a
glass of wine while I'm getting ready. Okay, you know,
I feel like that's my prera. Now you guys meet
me at what room?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
What's your room? No, I'll meet you hotel before jingle ball,
I'm going to get the espresso Martella. I'm in the lobby.
Thank you guys for coming on. Of course I'm seeing
either one of you hooked up.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
See, I don't even I can't talk freaking no.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
If you're a boyfriend girl.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Friends, I have a day tonight, I'm not I'm not
into it.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
A jingle.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, I don't approve. Excuse me. Thank you for coming
in you guys, of course enjoy all right, guys. So
(14:44):
now I'm joined by yet another Beauty High Charity lass in.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Hi, So you went to Auburn What.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Were you in?
Speaker 8 (14:53):
I was a Sigma Kappa?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Very nice? And did they pregame back at at Auburn
University when you were saying MC kappa?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Oh, I fear we got down?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He did?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I want to hear. I want to hear what did
that look like for you guys back in the day.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
Honestly, I'm like, I'm so grateful because I'm like, I
feel like I went to college during like the prime
years where like pregaming and like parties before like going
out to bars were like super huge, right, and so
everything that we did like always required like a pre game.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, it's funny, yeah, because I was talking earlier to
you know, Bob Guinea also from that so he and I.
He's a little bit older, not as old as me.
But this is like a new term for us pregaming,
and now it's like all I ever hear. Yeah, no, one,
we sometimes had a few drinks before the party, but
now it's official, like you have to have a pregame, right.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
It's always like a little pre party before the function
even really begins. And that's why it's very like the
whole word pacing yourself that that.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Came from pregames.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
Really like you don't yeah, like you don't really want
to get too crazy until you get to the party.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
So it's like it's all like a system.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wow, So were you good at that pacing yourself?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (16:02):
I mean I learned even start starting off.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Yeah, as a as a freshman sophomore, you're you're easing
yourself into it.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
But yeah, I got I got the hang of it
pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, tell us how do you how do you paste
yourself at a pregame?
Speaker 9 (16:17):
I mean for me, I'm someone who's like very small,
and so it's like you really like I I knew
the type of drinks that I wanted to have. I
it was very like like particular about like not letting
other people like obviously fix my drinks.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
It's just safety measures.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
But also it's like you just you know, you have
to like keep tabs of like okay, how much you
know alcohol you might be for taking a long night.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
It's a long night.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
So would start off always like you know, you come
in with one drink and then usually like a couple
I don't want to say a couple of minutes, like
usually thirty minutes in, like you should be on your
second drink, and then obviously, like there's always shots, so
you have to like that's when it really gets tricky
because I'm like, at that point, it's like you've got
to keep tabs of how many shots you've taken, Charity.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I feel like you should write this down, like this
should be in a handbook somewhere, because so far we
talked to quite a few people. Nobody had these instructions
for us. I love it. They have a lot of people,
a lot of mess.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
No, exactly right, it really it's it really is a system,
I'm telling you. But like you know, you have the
nights where some nights you just like you know, you
get two carried away, but you learn I'm telling it.
At least I learned my lesson the following morning, right,
I don't ever want to do this again.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So, yeah, I heard a lot of we had a
lot of our guests say espresso martinis are the answer.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Honestly for me.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Yeah, because people say, like obviously it's like the espresso
that keeps you up. But I I like, I do
it when I start to get sleepy, which is probably bad,
but I'm like, that's like, that's the only time I
drink espresso Martinis.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
I never I never start off with them.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
I only do it when I'm like, oh, like I
still have maybe like an hour or two left in
the night and I need, like I need to perk
me up.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Yeah, that's what I do it.
Speaker 9 (17:55):
But I mean they're great. It's a great drink all around.
Yeah for me, I'm I'm I'm a little bit opposite
on that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
No, I never did that either. We didn't. We didn't
have things like that back in my day. Or like
red Bull and vodka? Do you do that? Is that
what you drink it with? You drink it with vodka?
Red Bull?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
I hated it. I'll be honest. It's not my I mean,
it's not my it's not my cup.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So well, okay, so tell me if you can, Like
when you were pregaming in college, like any particular kind
of music you guys were into.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Oh my gosh, it was like that was like the
prime Like I feel like, I mean, it's crazy because
I'm like a lot of the artists that was like
really popular then and I feel like has kind of
fallen off a little bit. But like Travis Scott, like
that was like such the era that everybody like, right,
love Travis Scott, Like every time you go to a pregame,
like one of his songs are playing. He was just
(18:43):
really huge between I mean I was in college from
twenty fifteen to twenty eight, twenty nineteen, so like during
that time, yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Like it was just huge.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
I wasn't really big as big into like EDM or
house music then, but like it was starting to up
and it was becoming a little bit popular then too,
So that's kind of when I got like my start
of listening to that type of genre of music. But honestly,
you just want something that's like obviously going to keep correct.
Like it was very loud, but like very just like
(19:14):
you know, a good beat is all you need.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Do you feel like the pregames were sometimes more fun
than the actual game. I don't mean a football game
or about but I'm just saying, like whatever party, yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Oh yes, Well I went to Auburn, so and like
at the time when I was there, we only had
like it's such a big school and a big like
college well college campus. But in terms of like the
like nightlife and like social life of it, it's like, yes,
there are sororities, there were fraternities, but like going out
to bars and stuff, we didn't have many options. We
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had like maybe a total of like five bars like that,
and like at some point you.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
Like eventually rotate through all of them.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
So it's like, yeah, people just got we had to
be creative and like house parties or just like pregames
became the thing, right, and usually like after a football
game or something, depending on the time.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
We always like played football.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
Our like slots were like earlier in the day and
that worked out so if you had like a three
thirty game, we would then like go back home, and
like most people were like okay, like we might go out.
But it's like there was always like a little flyer
going around of like, oh, we're having like a.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Party a pre game. Sometimes sometimes we called it kickbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Just like relax and chill beforehand.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Right right, it's like a more like chill term for
like it's still a party, but it's like we're just
gonna be vibing it out and see where the night
takes us.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Ye right right, we're trying to get specific with uh
with our guests today just for fun, But like, did
you have a signature pregaming drink?
Speaker 8 (20:36):
I was a big at the time during college, was
a big vodka girl.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
So anything with vodka usually, Like I learned early on
too that I just I mean, for me, it works
quicker just taking shot. Yeah, so I was less of
like a mixing girls, like just give a shot, let's go.
And yeah, so I was a big vaca girl until
I had just not a great experience and then.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Tell me about it? What was it? Not great experience?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
It always happens.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
I mean everyone goes through like their experimental journey of
like you know, liquor.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
In college. For me, it was vodka, and I remember.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Oh my gosh, it was I think it was one
semi formal I had and I I.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Don't know what I was on.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
I was feeling like really bold and I was like, yeah,
I can conquer the world.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
I can anything.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
And I had I mean, if I say the number,
everyone's gonna be like, yeah, no, you need to like
be hospitalized.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I say it, but I have no It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I all have that number twelve shots.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
No, twelve shots before my semi formal, And I was like,
I don't even think I like kept count. But that's
what like my friends were saying. I ended up going
to the semi formal.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You were still able to make it?
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Damn girl, No, I know, but I listen.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
I crashed very early once we got there because we
rode on the back of like one of the guys
that was driving his like pickup truck that's also not legal.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Godless.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Right after twelve shots, I a little bit want to
puke right now, go on exactly.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
So I think it was the car ride.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
For sure, for sure, but go on.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
So I got to semi formal and I was like, no,
I need to go the bathroom. And like my best
friend at the time, she like came with me, and
of course, you know, held your hair, Yes, held my hair.
I did the solid rusty hook is what we called it.
So I just had to, like, I was like, I need,
I need to get this out of my system.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Wait, I'm learning so many good terms. What's rusty hook?
Just puking in a toilet?
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Yes, but sometimes you have to like kind of help you.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Jump put your finger down. Yeah, I get the honk part.
Why is it rusty?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I don't know, because it's like no one wants to
do that, you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, exactly right, okay, And did you still have a night?
Speaker 8 (22:52):
No? I did not. Yeah, I was done.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
I was like, no, I'm going back home, which really
sucked because my date was really sweet.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
He was like, do you want me to come back
with you? And I was like no. I was like no,
please have the.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Time of your life. I'm going to go lay on
my couch. And so my friend she took me back home,
and then after semi forma, they all I came and
check on me. It was I had great people in
my corner, but I just was like after that, I
was like, no, I don't know what I was on.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
I was doing too much. I was feeling too like.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Listen, you are not alone. I want to say that
everybody who we've spoken to has actually, you know, been there,
done that, including yours. Truly, thank you very much. So
do you still pregame?
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Definitely? Way less?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Yeah, it depends like if I'm with like a good
group of friends, like we were just at Zach and
Katie's wedding. Two weekends ago in Austin, and we had
like a bunch of people with us. So yeah, like,
if it's a social setting that requires that, we'll usually
keep it very cute and mild. But yeah, a pregame
is always nice just to jump start the night.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But wait a second. Zach and Katie were on with
us just a little while ago. They are adorable. Oh yeah,
and they said they had only very few people at
their wedding. You guys must be very close.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Yeah they invited.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Yeah, so it was a few girls from our season
because we were all in Zach's season, and then Joey
and Kelsey were there, and I'm trying to think other
couples like Susie was also there.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
So it was just like a good bland but it
wasn't a bunch of bachelor.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah that's what they were saying. I love that.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yeah, it was really sweet.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, I'm sorry because this is all subject but how
close did you get were your runner up? How close
did you get to Zach?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
I was no, I was yeah top four, so made
it to hometowns and then I got the boot after home.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I can't believe you guys all ended up though, loving
each other and being friends so great.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Oh, we had such a good group of girls. I'm like,
I'm I love it. Ever thankful for that because it
makes experience that much better.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, listen, well, I hope you all pre game together soon.
Maybe one day, me and you we'll do twelve shots
and get in the background pick up I ever get,
never get, Honey, believe me that that ship has sailed
for me as well. Charity, Thank you, Love
Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. All right, you guys, so
we have the bachelor himself, Bob Guinea. I will say
this before we start. I have never had more people
say say hello to your guest for me from me, Yes,
you are well loved, my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's very sweet. Thank you. I appreciate here, of course.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So first of all, Bob, you went to Michigan State, yes,
and what fraternity were you in?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I was an ATO at Michigan State epsilon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Eight of chapter Okay, back in the day, back in
the day, well back in the day. I don't know
if you called it pregaming, which is what we're going
to talk about, because I certainly didn't. And now all
my kids talk about is you did' neither. You're younger
than me, but actually gets on my nerves a little now,
But we're still going to talk about it. That whole target.
All right, So tell me a little bit about how
you all quote unquote pre back at Michigan State.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm assuming that means pre partied, yes, right, and so
you know that's what I call it's a week probably
called it was pre partying, So yeah, I mean, you know,
it would basically be like before you went to a function,
or before you went to a game, or before you
went to I mean when I was living in the
frat house, it was probably before I went to class.
You know, we would just like saddle up and have
a couple of cocktails, turn on some.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Music, get kind of in the in the zone.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I guess, you know, you'd be basically kind of picking
up on you know, getting yourself in the mood to
party a little.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, And so yeah, I just did it yesterday. I
went to Detroit Lions game.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I invited all my friends to a restaurant that was
right nearby, and I had some clients with me and
some friends, and I'm like, hey, we're pre partying over here,
so come join us partying.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah. I have a hat time saying pregaming too. I
don't know why. I just feel like it's all the
young kids. Well you're a young kid, but so.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I am not. I am not a young kid at all.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
How old are you?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Fifty four?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Get that?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What do you know about pregaming? You're old like me?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I pre party.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's my said, you pre partied four Damn boy.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think I'm actually older than you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Probably I'm fifty seven, so I don't think so Okay, yeah,
you look fantastic. Well so do you all? Right back
to the subject at hand, anybody ever get crazy before?
Do you remember any times where you were pregaming pre
partying and no you made it to the actual party
or you didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh, I've been that guy.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I mean, I think I think you know, you know,
you can get you can get yourself going a little
bit too much at the pre party and by the
time the actual party begins, you're so you know, you've
you pre partied your way into full on post party.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, no, totally, you didn't make it to the party, right.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I probably never missed the party, but I definitely
have had some friends who have, you know, where they
just get all sloppy and you're like, oh, buddy, you
do not want to, you know, put yourself in this
situation right now, you look it out for your friends
when you're pulling them out of the party, right, but.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Especially when you're frat or a sorority, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, you don't wanted to make a fool themselves, especially
because a girl there that they like or whatever, and
the last thing you wanted to do is make a
full of themselves, and you know, missed the opportunity to
make a good impression.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You're a good you're a good man. Tell me what
music were you listening to? But do you remember? Because
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But you know, my musical tastes haven't really changed all
that much from then to now.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, I'm sure I had Journey on that. I
always love journey Going and every.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Man after my own heart. Yep, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I Actually I'm raising my kids to be the same way.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I had a six year old a four year old,
and they really were Yeah, yesterday they're like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Why is it? Don't stop believing playing? I'm like it will?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I love that is so yeah. I mean, because we're
on the same age, then it's music that could get
you like pumped, right. It was absolutely yeah. It wasn't
the ballads necessarily.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was a.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Fun era, right, So there was a lot of great
stuff back then. I mean, I don't know if you
were like echoing the Bunny Man and that, but I
got introduced to them in college and they had some
great you know, upbeat, and then I'd mix it in
with my classic rock favorites and put together a fun playlist.
I literally make a playlist for everything. Like when I
go golfing, I'll have a golf playlist. I go boating,
(04:10):
I got a boat playlist. Yeah, that's almost more important
to me. I am that guy. It's all about the
mood to me, and it's more important to me than
than the party itself.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Did you ever meet, speaking of the mood, did you
ever meet like a special woman, a special girl at
a pre party?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I mean sure, I'm sure I have.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You can't even remember. There were so many more interested
in your in your playlist. I know, I know, I
get that. Do you miss the chaos and togetherness of
a pregame? I could ask you that question, but you
already told me you're still pregaming yesterday this day.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I just did it yesterday, and so I'm not
missing it today. In fact, I am the opposite of
missing it. I'm regretting it. I get that exhausted, and
I wish that I wouldn't have pregamed. See now, at
my age, the game is the game. The game, yea,
the pregame becomes the game. And then I've also like,
I got to have an espresso martini or five in
(05:08):
there because I need the energy now. Or back in
the day that probably would have put me through the roof.
But now I like to have an espresso martini because
I feel like I can still have a cocktail, but
it gives me a little more energy to give something.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I never drink them, and maybe that's the issue, because
I can't pregame better be at seven pm, because nine
pm I'm headed right into ram I like, I can't.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You should try it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Espress really good. Yeah, I feel like dessert.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well I used to. I think they used to be.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now I feel like they've become a little bit more
of a prime and the pump.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Type of beverage.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Right, what did you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Say, priming the pump, prime the.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Pump, baby? You are a frat boy. You are still
a frap boy.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, it's so great. I love it. I love it.
So I've questioned, I wonder if you can remember any
of this. Did your pregames ever turn into full blown
emotional therapy? So it's an interesting question. I don't remember
ever getting deep at a free at a pregame. No,
I mean, I'm you know, it was just all about
what boy is here?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We yeah, my buddies were more about let's let's have
some cocktails, let's have some fun. Yeah, it really wasn't that.
That wasn't the time that, don't get me wrong. Later
in life, I wouldn't say a pre a pre party
would turn into that, but you know, later in life,
it's almost like the post party.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Might turn inteah. Right, we're sitting there, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And and for me, you know, my my father just
passed away not too long.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I'm so sorry, literally thank you. I mean it's it's
two years now or three years now.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But my my buddies brought him up last night because
everyone just loved my dad so much, and and that
that was I guess that kind of was a little
bit of an emotional moment at a at a pre party,
but it was a happy emotional moment. It was like,
you know, oh he was the best, wasn't he? Oh man,
we love when we miss him. Let's get back to
our cocktails, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So it was a we.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Paid homage and then we got you know, we got
right back after it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I'm getting to the age myself where drinking a
lot is always going to turn into weeping probably, yeah, right,
just getting a stoutied and weeping. It's perfect. That should
be a book. All right, listen, thank you for coming on.
You're a dom what a charmer. You and I have
to pre game sometime soon. I would, but no game.
(07:14):
That's all I can do is a pregame. They were
going to bed.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Thank you, Thank you, my friend. Be well, all right,
you guys, guess who we have? We have Mercedes and
(07:39):
Jonathan from the Bachelor. How you guys? Hey, okay, so
you were both in involved a Greek life. So Mercedes,
you went to Iowa State and what sorority were you in?
Delta Zeta Delta Zeta okay. Jonathan you went to Chapman
and you were in Fiji and just for our listeners,
that's five gamma delta right. Okay, Well, listen, we're talking
(08:02):
today about pregaming, and I was talking about Guinea and
I was saying, like, back in the day, we did
not use that term, and now I just if I
hear one more time, it will be one time too many.
But we didn't. We just went out and before we
went to the game. We all just hung out at
the Sami.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
House drink before the drinks, I.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Guess, But it wasn't like a thing like you have
to like I feel like, yeah, you have to pregame night.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
So sure, it's definitely like okay, so where are we pregaming?
It's like always like it's part of this.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Also postgaming too, there is yes, oh yeah, like the
party is loud and obnoxious, and then you go postgame
where it's like chill and you can have like a nightcap.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Ah. So I would dig that way more than probably
the pregaming or the party. Uh tell me, like what
it was like though in your house Jonathan before I
mean while you were in college, Like what was it?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Uh, well, you always too, and we were talking about
this off camera. Actually is you always pregame the pre
game too, because pregames where you going, you like actually
get to like talk and like mingle with people. So
you want to have a good off a little bit.
So usually when I was getting ready, i'd be in
the shower. I'd have one of the guys just throw
me a drink, and I just have a drink in
the shower.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I'm getting ready for the day.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
A little sadly.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Oh yeah, maybe I'll try. You have like a white
claw in the shower.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
A white claw in the shower.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You take like a bubble bath, and you have like
a glass of red wine with you. Yeah, but you're
getting ready to shill out.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, you got an issue about that another time. That's kidding,
just kiddy. What about you, Mercedes?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Yeah, I feel like I always stay.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
It was very much a party scene, so we were
always pregaming and the same thing. Like the girls would
get together before the actual pregame because when you go
to the bars or like the party or whatever, it's loud,
it's obnoxious, and everyone's just kind of like dancing, vibing
and not really having conversations. Right, So you would take
the edge off with the pre pregame with the girls
and then go with the like the big group of
guys and girls mix, talk whatever, and then go to
(09:52):
the party.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It definitely makes sense because I know it is like
before maybe you hit the party with both sexes. You
do want to like get your flow for sure.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You also don't have the confidence you do as an
adult back in college. You're like, all right, we're going
to talk to girls, take a couple of drinks. You
still don't talk to girls, But.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Do you guys have either one of you have a
signature pre party drink.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Now that I'm older, Espresso martini for sure, to.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Make sure that's just what you just said, that I
drink mine with tequila.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, spresso martini with tequila.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Yes, game changer, so good. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's okay for all you little ones out there, get
your get your tequila in your espresso martini. What about music, guys,
what any favorites things that you're listening to, like in
college or pregaming, Like, was there just stuff that got
you pumped up?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Mm?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You remember anything?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
I'm trying to think of, Like it's probably always.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Rap, honestly, it was either that or like you have
friends that are like into the oldies and they think
it's like really sick, and then you kind of get
on board of that too, Like they'll play like Billy
Joel and everybody's singing along in that's also kind of
a vibe too.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So that's my vibe actually.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Really really old.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's the truth about country. And this is now I'm
off the topic of pregaming, but you guys, because I
know like now, I feel like a lot of colleges
the kids are listening to country music.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, I love countries country.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Wow, you guys.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Ever met before?
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Like twice?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I like it. What were the nights to go out
at your schools oy Like.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Wednesday through Saturday.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
W Wednesdays went to the bars on Thursday, Friday, Saturday
our house parties and then Sunday if you're watching the game,
you can have day drinks.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
But then you kind of just chill out.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
What about shots? You guys we fans of shots or
because I know for me that never ended?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Well, yeah, shots yourself? Like shots?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
It was like you take poles, Yes, you just take
the bottle and you just take a poll.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
From So everything has to have a new name.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So what we did going out, we would take water
bottles like plastic water bottles and fill it up with
vodka and we would take that into the party and
just yeah, just take poles.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Out of it. I mean crazy sexual. So now you're
taking a pole that's.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The world into literally And also if I did that,
now I look back on that time of my life,
I'm like, how the hell did I survive? Like I
if I did that now, I would be like not okay,
the next day I would be on my deathbed.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I will say most subtle flex ever ill yet have
a hangover.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Ever, you've never had a hangover in the shower. Still,
Maybe that's the key.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Maybe it's the key. The shower is the key.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I don't know what's wrong over. I don't know how
it's even possible.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Amazing, that's something to be proud of me. That is.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, do you guys, I don't really drink that much?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
All right? Yeah, so you guys are starting with the
white claw. But do you ever like you ever hear
liquor before in the clear? So do you ever follow
those rules?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I'm like such like I feel like I start with
like espresso martinis now, and then like I might have
like a glass of wine, and then we'll go into
like liquor and then maybe a beard a bend, which is.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Like so crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
That's that's like a big night out. Okay, that's like
I'm like.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Out from like six to do you steal pregame? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, that you say, Okay, before we go to jingle ball,
we have the pregame probably yeah for.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Suwe like I don't go out that much anymore. But
if I'm gonna actually go out for like a night
and I know I'm gonna have like a good night, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Because is it also just that you want to get
like the espresso win Is it kind of like just
or just.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
If I'm having like a full night, I'll probably just
start with like some Seltzers and then I'll have an
espresso Martina or something to get the vibes up and
then all right.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like my pregame now, like sometimes
the girls will get together, but sometimes we're like also
so last minute. So maybe it's just like having a
glass of wine while I'm getting ready. Okay, you know,
I feel like that's my prera. Now you guys meet
me at what room?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
What's your room? No, I'll meet you hotel before jingle ball,
I'm going to get the espresso Martella. I'm in the lobby.
Thank you guys for coming on. Of course I'm seeing
either one of you hooked up.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
See, I don't even I can't talk freaking no.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
If you're a boyfriend girl.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Friends, I have a day tonight, I'm not I'm not
into it.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
A jingle.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, I don't approve. Excuse me. Thank you for coming
in you guys, of course enjoy all right, guys. So
(14:44):
now I'm joined by yet another Beauty High Charity lass in.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Hi, So you went to Auburn What.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Were you in?
Speaker 8 (14:53):
I was a Sigma Kappa?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Very nice? And did they pregame back at at Auburn
University when you were saying MC kappa?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Oh, I fear we got down?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He did?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I want to hear. I want to hear what did
that look like for you guys back in the day.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
Honestly, I'm like, I'm so grateful because I'm like, I
feel like I went to college during like the prime
years where like pregaming and like parties before like going
out to bars were like super huge, right, and so
everything that we did like always required like a pre game.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, it's funny, yeah, because I was talking earlier to
you know, Bob Guinea also from that so he and I.
He's a little bit older, not as old as me.
But this is like a new term for us pregaming,
and now it's like all I ever hear. Yeah, no, one,
we sometimes had a few drinks before the party, but
now it's official, like you have to have a pregame, right.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
It's always like a little pre party before the function
even really begins. And that's why it's very like the
whole word pacing yourself that that.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Came from pregames.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
Really like you don't yeah, like you don't really want
to get too crazy until you get to the party.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
So it's like it's all like a system.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wow, So were you good at that pacing yourself?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (16:02):
I mean I learned even start starting off.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Yeah, as a as a freshman sophomore, you're you're easing
yourself into it.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
But yeah, I got I got the hang of it
pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, tell us how do you how do you paste
yourself at a pregame?
Speaker 9 (16:17):
I mean for me, I'm someone who's like very small,
and so it's like you really like I I knew
the type of drinks that I wanted to have. I
it was very like like particular about like not letting
other people like obviously fix my drinks.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
It's just safety measures.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
But also it's like you just you know, you have
to like keep tabs of like okay, how much you
know alcohol you might be for taking a long night.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
It's a long night.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
So would start off always like you know, you come
in with one drink and then usually like a couple
I don't want to say a couple of minutes, like
usually thirty minutes in, like you should be on your
second drink, and then obviously, like there's always shots, so
you have to like that's when it really gets tricky
because I'm like, at that point, it's like you've got
to keep tabs of how many shots you've taken, Charity.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I feel like you should write this down, like this
should be in a handbook somewhere, because so far we
talked to quite a few people. Nobody had these instructions
for us. I love it. They have a lot of people,
a lot of mess.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
No, exactly right, it really it's it really is a system,
I'm telling you. But like you know, you have the
nights where some nights you just like you know, you
get two carried away, but you learn I'm telling it.
At least I learned my lesson the following morning, right,
I don't ever want to do this again.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So, yeah, I heard a lot of we had a
lot of our guests say espresso martinis are the answer.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Honestly for me.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Yeah, because people say, like obviously it's like the espresso
that keeps you up. But I I like, I do
it when I start to get sleepy, which is probably bad,
but I'm like, that's like, that's the only time I
drink espresso Martinis.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
I never I never start off with them.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
I only do it when I'm like, oh, like I
still have maybe like an hour or two left in
the night and I need, like I need to perk
me up.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Yeah, that's what I do it.
Speaker 9 (17:55):
But I mean they're great. It's a great drink all around.
Yeah for me, I'm I'm I'm a little bit opposite
on that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
No, I never did that either. We didn't. We didn't
have things like that back in my day. Or like
red Bull and vodka? Do you do that? Is that
what you drink it with? You drink it with vodka?
Red Bull?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
I hated it. I'll be honest. It's not my I mean,
it's not my it's not my cup.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So well, okay, so tell me if you can, Like
when you were pregaming in college, like any particular kind
of music you guys were into.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Oh my gosh, it was like that was like the
prime Like I feel like, I mean, it's crazy because
I'm like a lot of the artists that was like
really popular then and I feel like has kind of
fallen off a little bit. But like Travis Scott, like
that was like such the era that everybody like, right,
love Travis Scott, Like every time you go to a pregame,
like one of his songs are playing. He was just
(18:43):
really huge between I mean I was in college from
twenty fifteen to twenty eight, twenty nineteen, so like during
that time, yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Like it was just huge.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
I wasn't really big as big into like EDM or
house music then, but like it was starting to up
and it was becoming a little bit popular then too,
So that's kind of when I got like my start
of listening to that type of genre of music. But honestly,
you just want something that's like obviously going to keep correct.
Like it was very loud, but like very just like
(19:14):
you know, a good beat is all you need.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Do you feel like the pregames were sometimes more fun
than the actual game. I don't mean a football game
or about but I'm just saying, like whatever party, yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Oh yes, Well I went to Auburn, so and like
at the time when I was there, we only had
like it's such a big school and a big like
college well college campus. But in terms of like the
like nightlife and like social life of it, it's like, yes,
there are sororities, there were fraternities, but like going out
to bars and stuff, we didn't have many options. We
(19:45):
had like maybe a total of like five bars like that,
and like at some point you.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
Like eventually rotate through all of them.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
So it's like, yeah, people just got we had to
be creative and like house parties or just like pregames
became the thing, right, and usually like after a football
game or something, depending on the time.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
We always like played football.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
Our like slots were like earlier in the day and
that worked out so if you had like a three
thirty game, we would then like go back home, and
like most people were like okay, like we might go out.
But it's like there was always like a little flyer
going around of like, oh, we're having like a.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Party a pre game. Sometimes sometimes we called it kickbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Just like relax and chill beforehand.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Right right, it's like a more like chill term for
like it's still a party, but it's like we're just
gonna be vibing it out and see where the night
takes us.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Ye right right, we're trying to get specific with uh
with our guests today just for fun, But like, did
you have a signature pregaming drink?
Speaker 8 (20:36):
I was a big at the time during college, was
a big vodka girl.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
So anything with vodka usually, Like I learned early on
too that I just I mean, for me, it works
quicker just taking shot. Yeah, so I was less of
like a mixing girls, like just give a shot, let's go.
And yeah, so I was a big vaca girl until
I had just not a great experience and then.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Tell me about it? What was it? Not great experience?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
It always happens.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
I mean everyone goes through like their experimental journey of
like you know, liquor.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
In college. For me, it was vodka, and I remember.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Oh my gosh, it was I think it was one
semi formal I had and I I.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Don't know what I was on.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
I was feeling like really bold and I was like, yeah,
I can conquer the world.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
I can anything.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
And I had I mean, if I say the number,
everyone's gonna be like, yeah, no, you need to like
be hospitalized.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I say it, but I have no It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I all have that number twelve shots.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
No, twelve shots before my semi formal, And I was like,
I don't even think I like kept count. But that's
what like my friends were saying. I ended up going
to the semi formal.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You were still able to make it?
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Damn girl, No, I know, but I listen.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
I crashed very early once we got there because we
rode on the back of like one of the guys
that was driving his like pickup truck that's also not legal.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Godless.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Right after twelve shots, I a little bit want to
puke right now, go on exactly.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
So I think it was the car ride.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
For sure, for sure, but go on.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
So I got to semi formal and I was like, no,
I need to go the bathroom. And like my best
friend at the time, she like came with me, and
of course, you know, held your hair, Yes, held my hair.
I did the solid rusty hook is what we called it.
So I just had to, like, I was like, I need,
I need to get this out of my system.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Wait, I'm learning so many good terms. What's rusty hook?
Just puking in a toilet?
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Yes, but sometimes you have to like kind of help you.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Jump put your finger down. Yeah, I get the honk part.
Why is it rusty?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I don't know, because it's like no one wants to
do that, you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, exactly right, okay, And did you still have a night?
Speaker 8 (22:52):
No? I did not. Yeah, I was done.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
I was like, no, I'm going back home, which really
sucked because my date was really sweet.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
He was like, do you want me to come back
with you? And I was like no. I was like no,
please have the.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Time of your life. I'm going to go lay on
my couch. And so my friend she took me back home,
and then after semi forma, they all I came and
check on me. It was I had great people in
my corner, but I just was like after that, I
was like, no, I don't know what I was on.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
I was doing too much. I was feeling too like.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Listen, you are not alone. I want to say that
everybody who we've spoken to has actually, you know, been there,
done that, including yours. Truly, thank you very much. So
do you still pregame?
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Definitely? Way less?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Yeah, it depends like if I'm with like a good
group of friends, like we were just at Zach and
Katie's wedding. Two weekends ago in Austin, and we had
like a bunch of people with us. So yeah, like,
if it's a social setting that requires that, we'll usually
keep it very cute and mild. But yeah, a pregame
is always nice just to jump start the night.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But wait a second. Zach and Katie were on with
us just a little while ago. They are adorable. Oh yeah,
and they said they had only very few people at
their wedding. You guys must be very close.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Yeah they invited.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Yeah, so it was a few girls from our season
because we were all in Zach's season, and then Joey
and Kelsey were there, and I'm trying to think other
couples like Susie was also there.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
So it was just like a good bland but it
wasn't a bunch of bachelor.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah that's what they were saying. I love that.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yeah, it was really sweet.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, I'm sorry because this is all subject but how
close did you get were your runner up? How close
did you get to Zach?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
I was no, I was yeah top four, so made
it to hometowns and then I got the boot after home.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I can't believe you guys all ended up though, loving
each other and being friends so great.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Oh, we had such a good group of girls. I'm like,
I'm I love it. Ever thankful for that because it
makes experience that much better.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, listen, well, I hope you all pre game together soon.
Maybe one day, me and you we'll do twelve shots
and get in the background pick up I ever get,
never get, Honey, believe me that that ship has sailed
for me as well. Charity, Thank you, Love
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