August 1, 2024 • 55 mins
This pod is for the girls! Becca Moore is in the O.R. and ready to talk all about her relationship with Shannon Beveridge! Becca opens up about her journey through coming out, and shares how Becca Tilley was a guiding force during this personal moment in her life.
We hear how Becca and Shannon started dating, and she takes us through her reaction when Shannon had Fletcher (her ex) on her podcast!
Plus, Becca reveals what’s “for the girls”, and tells us about her new podcast!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Wrath, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Scrub dub dumb.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I thought you were about to go to dune in California.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Loveeee. No, I wasn't gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's August first, you guys.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Wow, summer's flying by.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Are we gonna have a brat summer? When we was
still what are we gonna have a brat summer summer?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah, we should have started that back in June.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We saw a whole nother month basically, two months of
summer summer?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Is that until September twenty something?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Second? But still you know school's back soon.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, oh, my God associated summer with school.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Summer is a calendar. It's a biblical to my set.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Summer not biblical.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's been the Bible.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's in the Yes, Brat summer is not in the
Bible mindset.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, no, No, what I'm saying is summer is still summer.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
For another.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We saw the two months basically of summer, and we
can make it brat because that's what's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now, tell me what a brad summer is, Tonya it's
like von Dutch.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's like lime green slime, smell like sweat and cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah. It so nothing more opposite of you than that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean I'm really having like a white color palette. Uh,
situation happening.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
For now, Like cling girl Summer, You're not really Broad Summer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I hope I want to be Broad Summer.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Everybody is so cool.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Brad Summer is about accepting your imperfections while embracing the chaos.
That's what Charlie XCX says.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh really, that's not my thought.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That Ginger chan I swear I read that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm like, uh, some website Glamour, can you look up
what is brad Summer?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I just did.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's literally coined it. So that's who you. That's who
we're going to our info from.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
On the breath.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Just like that girl who's a little messy and likes
to party and maybe says dumb things, sometimes feels herself
but maybe also has a breakdown, but kind of like
parties through it. It's very honest, very blunt, a little
volatile like those dumb things. But it's brat. You're brat.
That's brat.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, that's right. That's bratt.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, whatever you want to be. It can be your
whatever type of summer you want.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Tonya, thank you, braver. I think could be more as
bridal cling girl summer, but.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I really can't. Yeah, I just did the dance. I know.
It's like, I really can't help it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was leaving the house today and Robbie was like,
you're really into the white right now.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I've worn white on white.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
By the way, why are you in a puffer vest?
It's ninety five degrees to.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Not inside this these are wearing.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
It inside these four walls.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's on your chair.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Thank you for reminding me because I met earlier.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's actually insane.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh my gosh, now I feel nice brat summer.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It's also visually not like I know exactly like I know,
it's not cool or clean.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's like, it's not brown.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's not clean girl. It's not barbiecore giving Melton.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's giving an eight burbank right now. And you have
a puffery vest.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's right, what's inside inside the studio?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
You weren't wearing it until five seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You're not that cold.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm pretty chilly, not cold enough that you did that
on your own accord though, right brat summer.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I do what I want, all right, you guys cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I can't even feel like slimey with green slime. I
do feel like my voice has changed ever since my sickness.
I like cannot get my voice back.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You just your voice has sounded fine until this moment
right now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes, no, I feel like it's been like horse for
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Now, screaming brat summer. And you know my voice has
been different. I did notice on earlier in the week.
I noticed that earlier. This week sounds better, Yeah, sounds
better today.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You know those girls that like, like I'm and they're like,
I don't want to use my voice, but they love
how it sounds.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, that's you. I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If this is the new me, then here, but totally normal.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's just a little deeper. It's a little horser.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Think you just clear your throat and get some back.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Just sound nice for our guest.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, we do have a guest. Yeah, and I'm very
excited to talk to her. We have Beckamore joining us.
She is a TikTok creator. She has like a bunch
of ratings on TikTok. This is kind of how she
got popular rating her creepy d MS thing. She is
known on TikTok for all these like funny ratings she does.
(05:04):
So it's like rating my creepy dms that time of
baseball player flew me out to meet him, Like all
these dating stories. She would like contact. If girls were like,
I think my boyfriend's cheating on me, she would DM
them the boy to try and catfish and she'd just
be like high hi, and they'd respond and then she'd
be like, oh, like you go to this college and
(05:26):
then if you cheated, she'd expose him on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah savage. So she also has her own podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
She has her own podcast and it's called for the
Girls with Becca Moore, and that is because she is
for the girls. She's always been for the girls. But
she's really for the girls because she is dating a
friend of our show and a beverage whom we love.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
We had her on with Seacrest. I did not realize
that until this moment.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Oh this is the girl. Yes, oh wow, Yeah, we
had her on the morning show, oh.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Doing the thing where people think her boyfriends so she
would each out to them. Yes, we had her on
for this very reason.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Did you look up the name?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, Oh wow, it's like Ryan's Roses.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And then we went to a the Era's tour with
her in a group with Mermaid Hair, and she was
there with her friend and so we had that bonding
experience as well.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And now she's back for more, and she's she's back
for more with beccam Moore.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Back for more with Beca more. Let's we can't say
anything else. Let's bring her.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, let's bring her in. Welcome Beckham.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
We are so excited to have you. I'm so excited
to be here. I love you. Guys. We went to
the eras towards we were just talking about this. But
back then I stay, yeah, I mean, let's jump right
into it, because I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I remember being on the bus together and you were
talking about someone like up in San Francisco, and I
can't remember what the thing was. He wanted you to
come up there, but you didn't know if you were
into him. I can't remember what the story was.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Well, we were kind of dating. We had gone on
a date. We met on a dating app and I
was really into him, and he was visiting La for work,
and he like we had like a crazy strong connection.
But then he like that was it. We went on
a good date and then I was like, am I
is he going to bring me to San Francisco?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like what do I do?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And then you guys were helping me, like craft a
text to be like I miss you or something, and
then we did date for a couple of months, but
then the distance was too hard.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, so that was what last year in August?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, that was August. And then a year ago,
literally a year ago, Oh my god, that's crazy. And
then I met Shannon in I think, Well we kept talking.
Me and that man dated until I think like he
wasn't like a backup, but we broke up. Broke up
in like November, and then I met Shannon, and I
remember being like I'm never gonna date a guy again.
(07:57):
Like I was like, I like, wait, really, I don't know.
I was just kidding, like I was just saying that,
you know, like I don't know. I was like, I
need a break from dating. And then I met Shannon
like three weeks later at the music video shoot, and
I was like, maybe I'll just get a girl I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Okay, So here's my question.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Because I've listened to your podcast, I've heard the story
of how you met Shannon. But I want you to
go through that day again and meeting Shannon, and then
I have some follow up questions. Okay, inspector gadget over here.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So I met her at the music video shoot, and
she like wouldn't give me the time of day. I
had never liked a girl before, like I've never I
mean a music video shoot. It was for Zolita, her
song Oh my God, Queen of It's Queen of Hearts
or something.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Okay, Okayla is Shannon's roommate.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, okay, but I didn't know this. So I show
up and all of a sudden, I was attracted to Shannon.
I was really confused. So I was like, what the
hell is going on? And she like wouldn't make eye
contact with me, like I couldn't get her attention. I
was like, what do I do? So then she comes
over to us and she was like she was a
creative director and she was like, hi, guys, has anyone
(09:05):
here been in a music video before? And I was like,
oh my god, I have, and I was trying to
like let her know that, like I was like in
with the lesbians, Like I wanted her to think that
I like knew leslians. So I was like, I, actually
it was in this LGBT music video with Fletcher. I
don't know if you did you know that? D No,
(09:29):
I didn't know anything. I don't know. I'm so mad
at myself realized it's so bad. Do you know this story,
Becca or no?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I just saw your TikTok about this.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I just finally told the story last night because I've
been like omitting that part of the story because it's embarrassing.
But it's not embarrassing if you didn't know. Yeah, I
literally did not know. What are the odds of me
bringing up Fletcher with Shannon Beverage in our first sentence?
Finally I got her attention to so everything was like
riding on this one like interaction, and I messed it
up somehow. I was like, yeah, I was in Fletcher's
(10:00):
music video. She was so cool, she was so awesome.
It was so fun hanging out with her all day.
And then she like let me talk for a while,
she like let me go on with my story, and
I thought she was like really into it. But then
she was like, so that is my ex girlfriend and
we I don't even know. So then I was like,
I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. And then she didn't
(10:23):
talk to me for the rest of the day and
I got to get her attention. I kept going up
to her and being like, I'm so sorry, so sorry,
and she kept being like, it's fine and I don't
care that much, like it seems like you really care,
and she thought, okay, So that made her think I
was straight because I didn't know their like lore, like
I didn't know, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That is pretty straight though not knowing about I.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Didn't know anything. I so I googled her in the
back because I started telling everyone what I had just done,
not the shoot, and they were like, that is Shannon Bedbridge.
I don't know if Shannon Beverage is. And I googled
her in the bathroom and then I found out and
I felt terrible and I decided I was in love
with her from like her social media, like I thought
she was so hot and it made me want her
even more that like she didn't like me that day
(11:05):
at all, so but she thought she just thought it
was straight, like she didn't know and then yeah, and
then I messaged her. I was like, I think got
because she posted this is after then after this ship. Yeah,
it hadn't talked. I mean she like came up to
me and like asked me a question, but it was
like pointless, like it was not flirty.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And was she flirty or giving attention to anybody else
on set or was she just very much she was
just like.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
In her own zone, except I saw her on Rya,
Like I saw over her shoulder that she was on ride,
so I knew she was single, so I thought I
would could get in, you know, so I down't well
already had Rya, but I changed my Riya to girls
literally that day, and I started looking for her. And
I would run out of swipes every single day looking
for Shannon. But it turns out her like age limit
was set to twenty seven and I'm twenty six. Oh,
(11:52):
so I was never gonna find her. Yeah you cross
that literally ever so but then I she posted a
Q and A on her Instagram a few days later
and it was like, asked me questions about relationships for
my podcast, So I asked. I was like, I'm going
to say, what do I do if I think I'm
in love with you, which I thought was funny, like
obviously I'm not actually in love with her, but she
(12:13):
didn't answer it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So I was like, this girlings I'm crazy, like crazy,
I bring up her ex girlfriend and then I told
her I was in love with her, and then she
didn't answer, and so then I gave up because it
was like she obviously doesn't like she's creeped out by me,
like that was weird of me, like everything I did.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And then my manager butt dialed her. My manager knew
her because my manager had managed her like years before,
and she told me after because I was telling everyone
like in my life, I was like, guys, I like
a girl. Now it's this girl. And then my manager
was like, oh my god, I used to manage Shannon,
and I was like, oh my god, you're so lucky.
Tell her I'm in love with her. She's like, I'm
never going to see her again. But she butt dialed
her like a week later, like my manager randomly butt
(12:50):
dialed Shannon, which is crazy, like I feel like it's
the universe helping me out. But she was like, oh
my god, I was trying to call my dad can
but do you know Becka more Chan was like, yeah,
I met that girl at the shoe and she was like, well,
Becka is like in love with you, like she keeps
talking about you. And she was like what like she
(13:13):
swore to god, she did not see my DM like
she swears, So I don't know if I believe her
in the question box thing, Yeah, she see it. So
then she DMed me, well, was she following you? Yeah?
Because I followed. She was the only one I followed
from the shoe, so she should have known.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Because the thing is, when when I like people that
I follow like show up, it shows about the top.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So I don't really know if I believe her. I
feel I know, I feel like she was just like
trying to make me feel better. So but then she
DMed me and then I got scared. I was like, okay,
now it feels like too serious. So I didn't answer
for a week and then I finally answered her.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
What did she DM you?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
She just replied to like one of my stories. It
was like you have like just like joking about something
I posted. But I was like I don't know now,
like I don't know if I want to come talk
to a girl because I felt like I finally got her,
you know, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, well, I was gonna ask if you if that's
how you dated guys, like if if it was like
if you got there like you liked the chase, and
then as soon as you got their attention where you
kind of like okay.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, I think I'm kind of like avoidant, like I
got interesting. Yeah, very avoidant. I love I mean just
getting into my like mental self. I don't know, but
like I think, yeah, once I have someone, but then
like she's so sweet that it like won me over,
and I'm like, now I feel more secure in our relationship.
(14:34):
But like, definitely in the beginning, I was like kind
of playing a little bit, like I was like, I
don't know if I really like her, so I'm just
gonna like talk to her for I would like say,
I'm just gonna like reply to this one, and then
she would say something funny and then I'd like, fine,
I'll reply to one more. And then she obviously won
me over and I love her now. So yeah, I
think because I don't think I could like fathom the
fact that I actually had romantic feel like I really
(14:55):
liked a girl and I wasn't just like being fun,
Like I don't know what I thought in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Did you ever have any Cause when I look back,
I never had romantic feelings like I had.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
For Haley before.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
But I look back on certain things and I'm like, oh,
maybe that was a crush on a girl, or like
maybe that was like a crush, but I just I I.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
What's the word I'm looking for? Like excuse it? Almost
as like, oh, I just have like a girl crush,
but not if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Do you have any of those? Or was oh, okay,
you do well? Shannon was definitely the first one that
I was like, Okay, I want to be like physical too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yes, but I.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Definitely had like codependent friendship where like we were like
I would get we would get mad at each other
if we had a boyfriend, like we hated each other's
boyfriends and we had to hang out. Like I remember
like crying one time on Valentine's Day because of my
best friend Kenzie, like she wanted to hang out with
her boyfriend and not me, And I'm like, that's not straight.
I think that's not normal. But but also but also
(16:23):
like I think it's hard for me to even like
admit that right now, because I'm like, I don't want
anyone in my life, like previously, to think that I
don't want any of my friends to think that I
was like in love with them, you know, because I
don't think I was. I wasn't attracted to like really
feminine girls, but like Shannon is the type of girl
that I would have gone for if I had met
(16:45):
one like her sooner because I lived in Ohio in
Nashville my whole life, so I wasn't around a lot
of lesbians or lesbians that were out.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And I think Shannon that's why Shannon became so loved
in the community is because I think girls saw her
and all of a sudden, like I both my younger
sisters are gay, and they were both like Shannon was
such a like made me think, oh I could be
gay and I could like someone that isn't you know,
(17:15):
like if I think they saw themselves in her and
they were like, oh, that could be me, And I
think she had that a lot of people had that
experience because of Shannon. And I think that it's so
funny that you went, like to that video shoot, which
was predominantly.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I like, you only know this girl.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I had no idea. Well, I because my tagline on
TikTok was like for the girls, not the guys. So
they asked me to be in it just because just
like say that tagline and be like for the girls,
not the guys. And I didn't realize that I was
the only like straight one. Yeah, I thought I was straight.
So I think all those girls kind of helped me
(17:55):
too throughout the day because they were like, if you
like Shannon, because all day I was like, how do
I get Shannon like me? Guys And they're like, you
know you're by right, like you're definitely bisexual, and I
was like, no, no, no, I'm not. You guys are
I'm not? Because I got like it was just fun
like I thought I was joking, Yeah, but I wasn't
joking now looking at but yeah, she but Shannon does
have that effect on people, like I feel like you
(18:16):
can see yourself in Shannon because she's so girl next
door and she like she's not what you think of
when you think of like a stereotypical like I don't know,
like definitely is going on stereotyps, but like they're you
just I don't know. I think there needs me more
representation because she looks so like she could be anyone
like your sister, like your fat I don't know. She
(18:37):
looks like, I guess a normal girl and not so
Lesbians aren't normal, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
There's a stereotype, there's a stereotyper, and I think there's
people it's like based on how you present. And sometimes
if you saw something your whole life that represented what
a lesbian is, you're like, oh, I'm not necessarily tracked
to that. And then you see someone like Shannon who's
kind of rides that line of femuline femalin, feminine and.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Masculine, kind of good femuline femulin, and it kind of
makes you go like, Okay, I get I could be there.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think I am into girls.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, it was hard though, being like am I just
do I actually like her? Or do I just like
her as a friend. It's like that thing again where
I'm like, am I obsessed with Kenzie the girl that
I was best friends with? Or do I like like her?
Like I don't know. But then I kind of just
had to like be like, well, do I want to
keep do I want to make out with her, Yes,
(19:38):
obviously I want to make out with her. Then I
like her, you know. Yeah, it was just hard to
come to terms with that. When I grew up also
was just scared of like what people. I kept it
a secret even from my family for like six months.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Oh wow, six months? What about your friends who knew
about it?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Only my LA friends knew because I obviously was bringing
her around and like telling them. I mean, I broke
the news in all my groups with my friends being like, guys,
I like a girl like that day, and I because
I was just so embarrassed about the story that had
just had, like the Fletcher thing, So I obviously texted
all of them because I needed their like I wanted
them to make me feel better. And I never like
(20:13):
came out to like my friends really like I just
kind of was like, guys, I like this girl and
she's so hot. And then all my friends were, even
my O high friends are all like ha ha, Becca,
you need to like redeem your like no one, they
weren't taking me seriously in the beginning because it was
like a joke kind of and then as time went on,
it was just kind of like a slow. They were like, okay, yeah,
Becca likes this girl. Once we me and Shannon started dating,
(20:36):
they were very easy to come out to my family.
I kind of did have to do like the sit down,
and I like surprised them. They thought I was like
pregnant or something because I was crying when I told them.
I was like, oh, I could tell you something. And
it was a little bit more dramatic than my friends.
But yeah, it took me a long time. Even though
I thought that like coming out would be like so
(20:57):
lighthearted now like on the internet, I mean, that was
a different story. But I thought that it would be
really lighthearted and like everyone would be like who cares,
it's twenty twenty four. But then I did it, and
like it's a lot more permanent than I thought, Like
I think, what is that? What do you mean permanent?
Like it feels like I'm just scared that everyone will
think that I went crazy and like I'm wearing a
(21:19):
scarlet letter. Yeah that's how I feel, But I don't know.
I had to like, oh that, like it's just been
like a crazy week or two weeks of people being
like sometimes I'm just getting like weird dms that are
like I don't know that are like Bible stuff. Oh yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, yeah, I get a lot of those two.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah. Wait, what was it like when you came out?
Was it?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well? I think we work together for four years, so
I had a lot of time to like really prepare
and process, you know what.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, that's what to expect.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
In terms of the response from like public. But all
my friends knew basically the day after I kissed her.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, they all, I told them all.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I was just like, my sisters lived with me, which
that was nice because I had I knew I had
their support. But I come from a very like Southern
Christian background, so.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
The family part was really hard and challenging.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And then I was just like not ready to have
it be public, and I wasn't prepared to deal with
getting d MS about the Bible and what you know.
I just like wasn't ready for that. And so when
we came out, I was totally prepared.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So I was.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Ready for anything and everything. And I was also I
knew I had my support system. Everyone knew, and I
was just kind of ready to not have to because
we talked, we talked about me being in a relationship
on the podcast, but we never said pronouns and it
was so hard.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So four years were like, and what are you doing
this weekend? Are you in said person? Going to dinner?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Why did people kind of know?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Or was it?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah? People knew and they were so wonderful because everyone
let me do it my own time.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
There was and then if we if we Haley and
I were out and I met someone like who listened
to the podcast, I would inter I'd be like, this
is my girlfriend Haley. I never hit her in that
way because I never wanted it to be I never
wanted her to feel hidden. It was just private. I
wasn't ready, so it was I don't I get what
you're saying. But I didn't do it as fast as
(23:21):
you did, so I had a lot more time to
kind of prep myself. And I think that I know
what you're talking about the permanence of it. And then
people would be like, I didn't know you were a lesbian,
and I'm like, well, I don't really identify as a lesbian.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But that's what I meant when I said the permanent thing.
I'm like, I don't want people to like I still
had relationships with guys in the past, and I think
I don't want like people to think that, like I
never liked any guy that right, right, Like I'm definitely
by which right? Like do you feel like now?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Like people say like, oh, you're bisexual, and then but
you're like, well maybe I'm maybe I'm fully lesbian, maybe
I'm st like you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I know, I don't even think what when people like
I don't even think I fit into like bisex, so
I just feel like I just like a girl, Like
I feel like, I mean, obviously I am technically bisexual,
but like that makes it feel like half and half,
Like I don't know, I feel like going back and forth,
you know where I'm like, I don't know what my
sexuality is like and why I do I have to
have you know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You really don't.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And I think for some people the label so important
because they live with it for so long that being
able to say, like I'm a lesbian or I'm bisexual
feels like freeing. And I think I felt the same
way as you, as like I don't like being put
in a box. I don't want to have to label
myself or give an answer to this. But because what
I was like in my mind, I'm like, I fell
in love with Haley, and that's what I know that
(24:36):
you know, I know, I know that I'm attracted to men,
But like, will I want to date a man again
if Haley and I don't work out, I don't know.
But that's not even in my focus right now because
I fell in love with Haley and that's who I'm with.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So I I totally wit this whole.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Thing that you're going through. And now I kind of
just I don't care, like say whatever you want. I'm
in love with this person and that's what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
People keep asking me, so when you guys break up,
they'll say, like, when you guys break up, you're going
to go back to men, And I'm like what, And
we're dating and currently we are dating like we love
each other. Yeah, I'm not thinking about like who I'm
going to date next, right, I don't know, Like and
she even asked me that too, She's like, are you
going to date girls like forever now? And I was like, wait, what,
(25:20):
we're literally dating?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Shit?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Why I hope?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
It's it's a It's interesting because I think when you like,
if someone is presumed and you yourself, presume that you're
straight forever, and then you fall in love with someone
and it's different than what people expected from you. They
like need an answer about that, and you don't owe
them that, you know, And I think that you being
able to fall in love with a girl and process it,
(25:48):
and also it's still pretty new for you and like
to be able to process it and you're kind of
doing it in real time.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
With people, it's going to be really helpful for a
lot of people.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
And I also think that it's hard and to like
give yourself grace because I don't think it's I don't
think it's a I know, it's easy to be like
it's twenty twenty four, it's not a big deal anymore.
Everyone's you know, people should be comfortable, and they should.
But I think as a personal thing, it is such
a big deal, and it's such a big deal that
you are public with it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So I hope you feel really proud of yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Because it's so see I do.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I think that it's a big deal and you did
it way faster than I did.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
But you really were like one of the people that
paved the way for me. Like I thought, like, oh
my god, I'm not kidding you were. I loved watching
your story. Obviously, I watched both of your seasons as
the Bachelor. I loved it, and then watching like I
kind of like saw at first of all, you have
the same name, but like I did like see myself
and you, and especially coming from I mean, my family
(26:45):
isn't conservative, but like I came from Ohio and then
I lived in Nashville, So yeah, I think that like
if I had more representation like you, Like I was
really excited when I saw you come out, and I
don't think I knew why. Maybe I should have known why,
Like maybe I knew deep down like I could be
attracted to girls. But I do think that the more
(27:06):
people that do just like fall in love with the
same sex and like just tell everyone and they didn't
expect it, but it's whatever. I think that will help
a lot more people, because I think the world is
just more fun if you don't like put yourself in
a box of like, oh I'm straight, I can only
date this gender, you know, Like I feel like what
if you just like what such?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Like it's so it's so crazy to me that you
get asked these questions and it's like if somebody dm
me and was like if you and Robbie don't work out,
like who are you gonna date next?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Normal? Like go kick rocks? Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Like straight people don't have to do that, yea, stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't know, and there's so much pressure on like
oh my god, Like I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Like why, Like I like they like asking you like
are you gonna have kids?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like yeah, like how are you gonna have?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm like I'm literally twenty six. I don't know. I
feel like I'm I'm seventeen. I have idea. All I
know is I love her and who cares?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Why is it?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Like?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Also, I do feel like a certain like not to
call my family and some of my old old friends out,
but like I do feel a little bit of coldness
from like certain members of my family, and that is
kind of that has been painful. But then when I
think about it, like a bird's eye but also okay,
I'm like backshocking, but I do kind of have to
(28:25):
give them grace because it took me a long time
to like forgive myself and be like okay, fine, I'm
going to dat a girl. So that's been hard. You
don't have to forget, Like it's not about them forgiving you.
I feel like it's them.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, you're right, I know, forgive, but it's not even
it's like them, not no, it's like them whatever it is.
I don't know what it is for them, but maybe
it's something they've been taught or been told forever forever,
so they're like processing and unlearning. And I think at
the end of the day, it's like you do just
have to give people like a little bit of time
and grace because yeah, if they love you like that
(28:58):
will come through.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
That will we shine through? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And as long as they're not like hopefully nobody is
being negative or.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No texting me like yeah, text or anything, but like, yeah,
I do. I just I guess I just want everyone
my message to be like I'm happy, like I want
everything happy for me, And this could happen to you too,
me like threatening.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
If you guys look really hot.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Has your family met her? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Wait, why did I say they face timed her? But okay, yeah,
my mom is like obsessed, like she's like, oh my god,
am my sisters too. But I met her entire family
and that was so fun. They were so sweet.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So y'all meet at the video.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Shoot y'all, Damn, whois the first thing out?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
She asked me on a date, okay, and that's when
we went to drinks and I freakimmed a little bit
too her. I like had two glasses of wine before. Yeah,
you have to.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I was so nervous I ever went to a date sober,
I know, but imagine the first one with a girl like.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'm just terribot. I showed up though, and like she
says that, I was like shaking, like shaking really hard,
and I don't remember that. I'm like, why did that
doesn't sound like no. She didn't tell me until like
weeks later, thank god. But yeah, we sat down and
I knew right away. I was like, I need to
make you my girlfriend, Like I need you, Like she
(30:46):
looked so cute and she was like so she's just
like charming, like she was so friendly. And then after
that that's pretty much like I think before was the
harder part, like getting me to work up the courage.
She'd be like, Okay, I'm actually going on this date
and like I'm actually gonna take this seriously as a
possibility for someone that I'm going to date, because when
she asked me on a date, the avoidant thing came
(31:08):
up again where I was like, I'm just gonna be
kind of like avoid of this girl, Like I'm not
going to text her ato like six pm every day. Why,
I don't know. I think that was six pm.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I don't like the morning spot that happens after six pm.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, Okay, maybe that I don't know. I just like
remember like I would not text her. Yeah, I guess
I thought that I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Eleven, that's dangerous territory, but six pm grabs at her
early brit special at six pm.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I think I thought that story would like land Alge.
I thought you guys be like, wow, so bad. But
it felt like I felt she was as a girl
like and she would text me at night and and
I wouldn't answer for a while six pm until six
It was crazy. But yeah, but how long did that last?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Though?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
That was like because I was in Ohio. It was
like over Christmas? Okay, so because we met December third, okay,
and then we went on our first date January seventh.
Oh so so we talked a lot before you went out. Well,
I remember like PM, Well, the first, she didn't talk
to me for like a week after the shoot, and
then I didn't talked to her for like a week,
(32:29):
So it took like a couple of weeks in between
because I stalked her old like YouTube videos.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But like that's like a long time of like I
feel like, you know, when you're talking to somebody on
like a dating app, I always wanted to meet them
right away because it's like there's only so much you
can talk to someone before you like go on your
first date.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I know. But we had so much to talk about
because like I was watching all of her YouTube videos.
Most you would ask her questions, did she did you
tell her?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I did. The day I finally replied to her DM,
I just sent her screenshot of like one of her
old YouTube videos, and I said, why am I watching
this right now? Haha? But really I was just watching
those to see if like I should answer her, like
to see if I was like for real about liking her,
Like I wanted to like do a deep dive. So
I watch like all of her stuff, and then I
pretended like that was the only one I watched obviously,
(33:14):
but I watch every single one, and yeah, then we
started we kept texting for a couple of weeks, but yeah,
we were texting every day for like two weeks before
finally we gone on this date. So we had a
lot to talk about on our date, and then after
that we spent like every day together like forever. Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So once Chill met, it was pretty much like it was.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Like she was like trying to be like slow down,
like no, not really like it was not like I
was trying to like date or tomorrow, but she kept
being like I can't have a girlfriend right now. I
she got to have a relationship, and I was like,
oh my god, it's totally fine. I don't even care.
And then we did stop talking for twelve hours because
we kept hating. Okay, we kept out, I'm not kidding.
(33:58):
It was so short. She tried to like okay, so
we were hanging out every day, and then I think
she realized that things are kind of probably going to
get serious. So on our like third date, she like
was like I just want let you know, like I
can't have a girlfriend, Like I like you a lot,
but like we can't date, and I was like, oh
my god. So then I cried and then I was like,
(34:19):
well then I don't want to talk like I want
to date you. Yeah, and she was like, good for you.
I know I did stand my ground. Yeah, I said
I want to date like I see a future with you.
So if you don't see that, then I guess we
can't be together. And then she said, what about in
like six months, Like what if I go to therapy
and like figure my life out? What about in six months?
(34:40):
And I was like, I mean, I can't promise that
I'm going to be single in six months, but yeah,
I'm probably still gonna like you six months from now.
I don't really know. And then she left. She was like, Okay,
I respect you. I understand that you don't want anything casual,
so let's not talk for a while. And I was
like okay, And then like twelve hours later she texted me.
She was like I miss you, and then I came
(35:02):
over to her house and then that's when we like
for real decided to like start talking talking. You know,
So when.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Did y'all become a like did you did y'all have
like a will you be my girlfriend? Moment?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
She asked me. In May. On May third, she was like,
she took me to Joshua tree and we like had
an airbnb and we were like walking around. But on
the first night, she like made my favorite dinner for me,
and then we were playing this card game and she
played like all of a sudden, the song that we
first like I think made Out Too came on on
(35:33):
the radio or on the speaker, and I was like,
oh my god, Shannon, this is a song. And then
she was like, I have a present for you. And
then she gave me a necklace and I said S
and B and she was like, will you be my girlfriend?
And I said, obviously, we're already dating, like we had
been an exclusive.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
H that's a long time. R April month, Yeah, April
to August. Where came where there was like my girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
April to May to June, July four months. Yeah, it's
way too long.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
But I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I was like, I'm new to this.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
If you were waiting for me to ask you to
be your girlfriend, I've never done that before, So.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I wasn't gonna ask her. But I had heard
that like WLW relationships. I wanted to say Lassie, but
and then I was like, I don't know if everyone's lasting,
they go move fast. So I know that she's gonna
ask me right away, and I feel like if a
guy were waiting four months to ask me to be
his girlfriend, I would have complained. So I did start
like being like, isn't like I made tiny jokes about it,
(36:38):
but I wanted to be like chill. But then I
like was telling my friends like, if she doesn't ask
me this weekend, I'm going to bring it up, like
for sure, I'm gonna be like, dude, I thought we
were gonna be together. What are we doing right now?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But she asked me what was the makeout song?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It was hopeless romantic by Julia. It's like, it's a
really good song. It's like, I don't know if you
know not Julia prap, don't know. I've listened to it
this morning. It's really good. You guys would listen to it. Okay,
who kissed you first? She asked if she could kiss
me when the.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Night you all hung out for the first time.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Oh yeah, we definitely made out, she said. I made
out though, like a like a girl making out with
a guy. So we kind of had to fix her
kissing sounds of.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
What I just had this conversation because of love Island
because I was like.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Do you Watu Island? I'm trying to I'm on an episode.
I'm really behind, but I'm watching kids.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
It's it's a hard watch for me.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
It was a hard watch.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No, it's good, but the girl the way the girls
kissed the guys was so jarring to me because it's
so aggressive.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, oh okay, I wasn't being agressive, she said I
was being too like like submit, like letting her all
the work. And I was like, oh oops, what am
I supposed to work? Am I supposed to cook?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
In? Like?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
What did I do?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't know? But then we figured it out, got
that settled. The first kiss, I was like, yeah, I
was a little bit. I wasn't used to. I've never
I've only made out with a girl one time in
the bathroom of in a bathroom stall. But it wasn't
like I think we're being performative.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Giving acting.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, it was just it was weird.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Did you feel I'm curious from okay, what was the
longest relationship you had with a guy?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It was not very long. I was like, the longest
one I dated was less than a year. It was
like nine months. But we were breaking up every other week,
like terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
So is this your most like consistent oh relationship?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Oh my god. Yeah, And we are like way more
connected than I've ever been with a guy, Like I
can tell her literally anything, like I'm not worried about
like being cute all the time. Like I feel just
so more myself and like comfortable and happy. So it's
like maybe I'm like I don't know, I don't know
if I could go back to dating men that's like
the same type of men at least, because I was
(38:51):
going for like athletic guys like just super I don't
I think I was just trying to like get like
I don't know, the guy that yeah, the guy that
like everyone wanted and I just wanted to compete the challenge. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Did you have IX with guys like really easily, Like
would you get like what were some of the simple
icks that that Okay, So my whole thing was I
realized when I started dating Haley the things that she
that would normally give me the ick, I don't even
have a thing, Like I know she doesn't it me
at all.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
There's nothing that Shannon could do that would like gave
me the ick and not want to talk to her anymore.
I want to first state with a guy and his
car alarm went off and I couldn't talk to him anymore.
I'm not kidding because he was just so awkward around
the car alarm thing, like he was like embarrassed. That's
so good.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So he got embarrassed and that was Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It was like icky because he couldn't like recover from it.
He couldn't be cool about it went up because he
had to call his dad to figure out.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
What something else.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
This one guy like to watch South Park. I feel
so bad, but I hate south Park. I couldn't This
other guy, my boyfriend, the guy that I like kept
breaking up with. He had these like as tech print
like pillowcases, but like cheap as tech print, like from
Amazon for like a dollar, And I'm so sorry. I
literally posted on my Snapchat story, like on my private one,
(40:24):
and I was like, I don't know how to end
things like them. He's my literal boyfriend. It's just so bad.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
So if Shannon had like full ass tech decory, I
love that.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
She wouldn't have, yeah, but I would be like, this
is so hot. Shannon's like a girl though she doesn't
do anything itchy, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I love that before you fell in love with the girl,
you were so for the girls.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I know it's funny that that was my literal tagline,
and now look at me.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Now, I wonder, well, why was that your tagline? Because
I would like list things that weren't for men, like
silverware and like air. I should have known, though.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
What those were some of my favorite lists.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Could you share with some of our listeners who maybe
haven't seen the videos some things that are for the girls.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
It would be like lowercase letters, shelter, blanket shelter. How
was shelter for the girls? Why do they need that?
They're fun? And yeah they I think that I had
like a bar like men should be like barbarians if
they're going to be in society because I don't know,
(41:31):
like they don't even need to know how to read.
We're good, we don't need them. I should have known
them though that because also like I don't actually know
where I was going with that thought.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
It was really confident, fascinated that you ended up into
LGBTQ artists music videos.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
The first one was an accident. It was I was
friends with Olivia O'Brien and her and Fletcher did like
a collapse on together, and Olivia asked me like the
night before because she just needed Fletcher needed like a
girl to like sit on a bench with her and
like predomin to kiss her, which is awkward, but we
didn't actually kiss, Like I didn't. I don't know. That
(42:11):
was my first time meeting.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I met Olivia like the day before and it was
just really last minute, wasn't planned, and I just showed up.
I didn't know what I was going to be doing.
All I knew was that I was Fletcher's like love
and chirst and I just sat there. Yeah, it was
really quick. It was like a second.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
You and Shandon were together when they did their podcast
together when Fletcher was on.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
How was that for you?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
It wasn't. I know, everyone probably wants me to be
like it was so hard and likes so much, Like
I don't have that much tea about it because I
felt I just felt so like secure in my relationship
with Shannon, like I knew we were already exclusive at
that point, and I think that like knowing kind of
the people in real life, like I understand that it
(43:14):
is their relationship is like representation for so many people,
and it was like iconic. It's like an iconic relationship,
and so I definitely want to respect that, like it
should be in a museum. Like that's it, though, Like
I think it's over, you know, Like I wasn't. I
was just really secure with her because I I don't know,
(43:35):
she made me feel so comfortable and like we hung
out after, like me and Shannon hung out after that
was like recorded, so it was fine. I don't know,
I don't know, well, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
That's like so nice because I feel like that's like
I feel like everybody, no matter how confident and secure
you are, you have insecurities, Like everybody just has them.
And I feel like you're what you're saying is like
my relationship my girlfriend made has made me feel so
secure that even for doing an interview with her ex girlfriend,
that people lore I don't even know what they are,
(44:09):
and that you can can just be like it was
like she was doing her job, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Like she was like working, they were working together, like
both of them, Yeah, they were working.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
But just to have that just goes to show like
how strong your relationship is.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Feeling. I feel like she's like my best friend, and
I don't think that she would do anything to like
ever make me feel unomfortable, like even I mean when
I watched it, I was like, I do feel like
they kind of just watched it. Oh yeah, would you
not watch it? No, I don't think I could. Would
I would?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, for sure, you think I would.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
You'd watch it over and over again and analyze every
single Seaylor, Yes, Okay.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Well, I think that like I knew that it was
just like kind of a job that they were doing,
like you said, like I didn't think. I just I
just know Shannon and life and I know Carrie, So
it's like I think, I just I just know than
like one hundred percent, like I know that it's there.
You know. I don't want to like ruin anyone's day though,
(45:11):
because I understand I know that feeling like when you
want two people to get back together so bad, or
like you ship people in your head so bad. So
I I think I want to respect that and like
let people have their fun, Like that's very kind.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Of very generous, very generous giver.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Becca. Well, I don't know, I feel like it's like no.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I'd favor I'd be like she's mine now lore us
shook us ship us.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
I just don't care because it's not real. It's like Twitter.
So but I mean it was annoying honestly. I will
say though, the day that it did come out, I
was getting like a lot of like hate comments, being
like I want her to be with Carrie. That was
the only annoying part because I was like, oh my god,
why don't you guys like me? Like why do you
like her better? Why does everyone like want? I don't know,
(46:00):
it was more just my ego. I was like, when
you guys to like me too, I'm not that bad.
But yeah, that part sucked for like two hours, and
then I beca more energy Yeah you don't, Yeah I do.
But I was just with her the entire time, Like
it's hard.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
To be like, I know what you say makes sense, yeah,
but it's like I just feel in real life it's like, well, you.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Know what, I honestly think if it were a man,
there's no way, Like I would not know why.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
But so that's so interesting. Why what's the difference, Like, because.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
I feel like we're best friend, We're literally like I
just feel so close to her, like she wouldn't do
anything to hurt me, you know. Yeah, but you're saying
if it was a guy doing an interview with I
would feel different. It's not interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Like scrutinizing body language.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
What me, No, I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Sitting, I'm saying, if there was a guy, you'd be
like scrutinizing.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Watching it over and over, somo being like why did
you do that?
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
So interesting. Well, she also like, I've never dated someone
in the public eye, so I understand, like their life
is like kind of on display for everyone, and they're
trying to like be enter, they're trying to entertain, They're
doing their job to like make you and I mean
Carrie had an album to promote. Yeah, yeah, everyone knew
what they're doing, right, Yeah, I understand. And a lot
(47:23):
of her songs are about Shannon, like not this album,
but like they are they have been about Shannon in
the past. So yeah, obviously it's entertaining to like imagine
if Taylor Swift did an interview with like Harry Styles,
I would watch that too. But I understand that they're
probably never going to get back together. I wish, so
I really do wish that they would get back together.
(47:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
We started.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I was with Shannon over the weekend at a
party and it was so yeah at that beach party.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Oh yeah, okay, we were spike ball partners.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I heard about this.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah, I was very sore and she said she needed
a wheelchair. But she it was so fun to talk
to her about you because she just speaks so highly
of you, and like the happiness radiating.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
From her was so like, we just had such a
great day.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
And I remember thinking we left and I was telling
my sister and her girlfriend. I was like, Shane, then's
so happy, Like it was so fun to be around
her and her talking about Becca.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I feel like we're just a good fit. Like I
feel like we understand each other, and like she balances
me out. I feel like I'm super adhd and like
chaotic and like I'll be like do we should do that?
And that, and then she's really calm and like keeps
me together. And also I've never had a relationship like
thisuess where i feel like we're like almost like puzzle pieces,
like fitting together kind of. Yeah, and like she sees
(48:50):
she understands everything that like sometimes I'll say something to
her and I'll be like, why do I feel this
way about like something random, like any like issue in
my life, and it's almost like dating a therapist because
she like connects dots for me. She's like, well, remember
the story you told me, Like I don't know, it
is like dating a therapist. It's so nice, Like she's
just so balanced, I feel, and she never gets worked
(49:10):
up like I never. I feel like with a lot
of men in my past, like I just feel like
I wasn't ever understood and it was never like I
was kind of there's like a wall between us and
we couldn't get on the same page. And I feel
like it's because I was trying. It might have been
the type of mine. How shosing now, because I really
was going for like the stereotypical like I don't even know,
(49:32):
like popular guy, and I feel like they I was
just trying to get them to see me as like human,
like trying to get them to like view me as
like someone important, like someone important to like make myself
important to them. But with Shannon, I'm already like she
inherently and like important to her, so like I don't
need to do I don't need to prove myself to Shannon,
(49:52):
like I don't need to be like, guess what, I'm
a girl, and also I'm smart, and also I have feelings,
Like Shannon already understands all of that, and that makes
our relationship like way easier because we're on the same page.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Like all the time, she told me how smart you are,
like she's so smart and she's so good at games,
because I was like, y'all should come over for games,
and she like, Becca's so good at games.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
She's so smart.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
No, not that good a game. She's not supposed to
tell people that because then I can like shock them.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Oh yeah, I was, she forgot I said anything.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I know we've talked about a lot about your relationship,
but I'm so curious how your career got started as
an influencer, because did did you start doing tiktoks with
the plan of this becoming your career or did it
happen accidentally.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
It was an accident. I've always like had a pretty
sarcastic sense of humor, So the first video I've made
was me like rating my date party dates sarcastically, like saying,
this guy left with another girl when he took me
ten out of ten. And that video was really meant
for my friends or like people that I knew or
knew those guys, but it went viral, like the first
(51:03):
video I ever made. So then I kept going. I
was like, oh my god, I have so many men
that I can make fun of, and just kept going
on and on. Yeah, and that's kind of where the brand,
like for the girls, not the guys, because everyone would
be like I would never like yeah, I would only
like talk shit about men. H That's when I like
started to take That's when my brand started. Yeah, back
(51:23):
in like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
So, and then you had a series where you would
basically reach out to guys who were in relationships.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
What was it called the loyalty test?
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I to do test? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Did that was that hard for you to like deliver
that news to girls?
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yes? Obviously it was terrible. I would send them screenshots.
I started that because this girl wanted me to DM her,
like a girl organically asked me for that, like one day,
like she was like, Hi, this is so random, but
like my boyfriend loves blonde girls. Will you DM him?
And I was like what the heck? Yeah, obviously, and
I sent her screenshots and he failed the loyalty test.
(52:03):
So then I was telling a story to my friends,
which means like he failed, which means like he like
was flirting idea and was kind of being flirty and
I showed her and I was really sad and emotional
and it was hard for her. But I was telling
my friends the story and they were like, you should
make that into a TikTok, and I was like, I guess,
and then I started doing, but then it got way
too overwhelming, you guys, like I was doing like inundated.
(52:23):
What does that word mean, like like flooded with girls
wanting you to act still every day still, and I
haven't done one in probably two years. Yeah, I have
not done a single one of these and two years
and every I get asked about it every single day
in my DMS. So maybe I should just starting it.
But everyone knows I'm dating a girl.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
I feel like you can just go into my profile
and see that I'm not single, So why would I
be sligning in anywaybe.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Then like a secret.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Yeah, I can make a fence to maybe with like
random pictures, but yeah, I just these boyfriends, and a
lot of them, it wasn't like one hundred percent of
them were failing it was like, like you say the
percentage like forty percent, I would say failed. Oh so
the higher percentage just didn't fail. M oh nice.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
So it's just not crazy, not seene.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, so I don't know if they this.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Is great, great they're not checking. That means they're not checking. Yeah, yeah,
that's good news.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
I'm happy about that percentage. Yeah, would that be crazy
if like I mean, I don't know. I might be
under exaggerating, but that would be crazy if like eighty
I would literally like never want a date again if
it was like eighty percent. It honestly did make me
a little bit jaded towards dating for a while doing that.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
How are any of you feeling this? Like, yeah, so sad? Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
I know that's really I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
Because sometimes we'll get advice things on our emails and
it'll be like, oh, I know so and so's cheating,
Like do I do I say something? And Tanya and
Mark are always like, stay out of it, it's not
your relationship.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
But I'm like you, guys, no, I don't say stay
out of it. I'm like, get in it. Yeah, get
let them know. Yeah, because it would suck, Like, how
else are you gonna what if they never find out
and then they get married or something. Yeah, I just
feel like they find out, I find out. I don't,
or I guess sometimes in some cases, people kind of
don't want to know if their partner is shooting. Like
(54:15):
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
It's like it's like, let's say you meddle and then
you tell them and then they do nothing about it,
and then.
Speaker 6 (54:21):
Yeah, but still a bad guy for letting them know
they're being cheated on, because you're like being judgmental, like
you're not interjecting yourself into these people's relationship, and then
you're like you're not gonna do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Well, imagine that's where you just got to look at you.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
It's all but imagine like knowing that other people knew
and then you if you genuinely didn't know.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I would be mad at my friend, so.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Mad if someone knew and didn't tell me. If anyone
knows that Haley's doing anything, you have permission to meddle.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Get in noted.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yeah, especially you, especially you beca Thank you so much
for scrubbing in.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
I love Where can people follow you?
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Where can people listen to your podcast, watch your podcast,
all the things it is called.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
My podcast is called for the Girls with Becca more
I'm five episodes in, so don't expect to love. I'm honest.
It's like pretty chaotic. It's on YouTube and Spotify and
then my TikTok and Instagram is just Becca more Perfect.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
We love so much.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
It's so happy for you.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
This is like therapy. This is awesome talking to you guys.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
Actually
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Wrath, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Scrub dub dumb.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I thought you were about to go to dune in California.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Loveeee. No, I wasn't gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's August first, you guys.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Wow, summer's flying by.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Are we gonna have a brat summer? When we was
still what are we gonna have a brat summer summer?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah, we should have started that back in June.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We saw a whole nother month basically, two months of
summer summer?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Is that until September twenty something?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Second? But still you know school's back soon.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, oh, my God associated summer with school.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Summer is a calendar. It's a biblical to my set.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Summer not biblical.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's been the Bible.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's in the Yes, Brat summer is not in the
Bible mindset.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, no, No, what I'm saying is summer is still summer.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
For another.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We saw the two months basically of summer, and we
can make it brat because that's what's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now, tell me what a brad summer is, Tonya it's
like von Dutch.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's like lime green slime, smell like sweat and cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah. It so nothing more opposite of you than that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean I'm really having like a white color palette. Uh,
situation happening.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
For now, Like cling girl Summer, You're not really Broad Summer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I hope I want to be Broad Summer.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Everybody is so cool.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Brad Summer is about accepting your imperfections while embracing the chaos.
That's what Charlie XCX says.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh really, that's not my thought.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That Ginger chan I swear I read that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm like, uh, some website Glamour, can you look up
what is brad Summer?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I just did.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's literally coined it. So that's who you. That's who
we're going to our info from.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
On the breath.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Just like that girl who's a little messy and likes
to party and maybe says dumb things, sometimes feels herself
but maybe also has a breakdown, but kind of like
parties through it. It's very honest, very blunt, a little
volatile like those dumb things. But it's brat. You're brat.
That's brat.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, that's right. That's bratt.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, whatever you want to be. It can be your
whatever type of summer you want.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Tonya, thank you, braver. I think could be more as
bridal cling girl summer, but.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I really can't. Yeah, I just did the dance. I know.
It's like, I really can't help it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was leaving the house today and Robbie was like,
you're really into the white right now.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I've worn white on white.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
By the way, why are you in a puffer vest?
It's ninety five degrees to.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Not inside this these are wearing.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
It inside these four walls.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's on your chair.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Thank you for reminding me because I met earlier.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's actually insane.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh my gosh, now I feel nice brat summer.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It's also visually not like I know exactly like I know,
it's not cool or clean.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's like, it's not brown.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's not clean girl. It's not barbiecore giving Melton.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's giving an eight burbank right now. And you have
a puffery vest.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's right, what's inside inside the studio?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
You weren't wearing it until five seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You're not that cold.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm pretty chilly, not cold enough that you did that
on your own accord though, right brat summer.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I do what I want, all right, you guys cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I can't even feel like slimey with green slime. I
do feel like my voice has changed ever since my sickness.
I like cannot get my voice back.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You just your voice has sounded fine until this moment
right now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes, no, I feel like it's been like horse for
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Now, screaming brat summer. And you know my voice has
been different. I did notice on earlier in the week.
I noticed that earlier. This week sounds better, Yeah, sounds
better today.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You know those girls that like, like I'm and they're like,
I don't want to use my voice, but they love
how it sounds.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, that's you. I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If this is the new me, then here, but totally normal.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's just a little deeper. It's a little horser.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Think you just clear your throat and get some back.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Just sound nice for our guest.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, we do have a guest. Yeah, and I'm very
excited to talk to her. We have Beckamore joining us.
She is a TikTok creator. She has like a bunch
of ratings on TikTok. This is kind of how she
got popular rating her creepy d MS thing. She is
known on TikTok for all these like funny ratings she does.
(05:04):
So it's like rating my creepy dms that time of
baseball player flew me out to meet him, Like all
these dating stories. She would like contact. If girls were like,
I think my boyfriend's cheating on me, she would DM
them the boy to try and catfish and she'd just
be like high hi, and they'd respond and then she'd
be like, oh, like you go to this college and
(05:26):
then if you cheated, she'd expose him on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah savage. So she also has her own podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
She has her own podcast and it's called for the
Girls with Becca Moore, and that is because she is
for the girls. She's always been for the girls. But
she's really for the girls because she is dating a
friend of our show and a beverage whom we love.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
We had her on with Seacrest. I did not realize
that until this moment.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Oh this is the girl. Yes, oh wow, Yeah, we
had her on the morning show, oh.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Doing the thing where people think her boyfriends so she
would each out to them. Yes, we had her on
for this very reason.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Did you look up the name?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, Oh wow, it's like Ryan's Roses.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And then we went to a the Era's tour with
her in a group with Mermaid Hair, and she was
there with her friend and so we had that bonding
experience as well.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And now she's back for more, and she's she's back
for more with beccam Moore.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Back for more with Beca more. Let's we can't say
anything else. Let's bring her.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, let's bring her in. Welcome Beckham.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
We are so excited to have you. I'm so excited
to be here. I love you. Guys. We went to
the eras towards we were just talking about this. But
back then I stay, yeah, I mean, let's jump right
into it, because I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I remember being on the bus together and you were
talking about someone like up in San Francisco, and I
can't remember what the thing was. He wanted you to
come up there, but you didn't know if you were
into him. I can't remember what the story was.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Well, we were kind of dating. We had gone on
a date. We met on a dating app and I
was really into him, and he was visiting La for work,
and he like we had like a crazy strong connection.
But then he like that was it. We went on
a good date and then I was like, am I
is he going to bring me to San Francisco?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like what do I do?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And then you guys were helping me, like craft a
text to be like I miss you or something, and
then we did date for a couple of months, but
then the distance was too hard.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, so that was what last year in August?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, that was August. And then a year ago,
literally a year ago, Oh my god, that's crazy. And
then I met Shannon in I think, Well we kept talking.
Me and that man dated until I think like he
wasn't like a backup, but we broke up. Broke up
in like November, and then I met Shannon, and I
remember being like I'm never gonna date a guy again.
(07:57):
Like I was like, I like, wait, really, I don't know.
I was just kidding, like I was just saying that,
you know, like I don't know. I was like, I
need a break from dating. And then I met Shannon
like three weeks later at the music video shoot, and
I was like, maybe I'll just get a girl I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Okay, So here's my question.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Because I've listened to your podcast, I've heard the story
of how you met Shannon. But I want you to
go through that day again and meeting Shannon, and then
I have some follow up questions. Okay, inspector gadget over here.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So I met her at the music video shoot, and
she like wouldn't give me the time of day. I
had never liked a girl before, like I've never I
mean a music video shoot. It was for Zolita, her
song Oh my God, Queen of It's Queen of Hearts
or something.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Okay, Okayla is Shannon's roommate.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, okay, but I didn't know this. So I show
up and all of a sudden, I was attracted to Shannon.
I was really confused. So I was like, what the
hell is going on? And she like wouldn't make eye
contact with me, like I couldn't get her attention. I
was like, what do I do? So then she comes
over to us and she was like she was a
creative director and she was like, hi, guys, has anyone
(09:05):
here been in a music video before? And I was like,
oh my god, I have, and I was trying to
like let her know that, like I was like in
with the lesbians, Like I wanted her to think that
I like knew leslians. So I was like, I, actually
it was in this LGBT music video with Fletcher. I
don't know if you did you know that? D No,
(09:29):
I didn't know anything. I don't know. I'm so mad
at myself realized it's so bad. Do you know this story,
Becca or no?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I just saw your TikTok about this.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I just finally told the story last night because I've
been like omitting that part of the story because it's embarrassing.
But it's not embarrassing if you didn't know. Yeah, I
literally did not know. What are the odds of me
bringing up Fletcher with Shannon Beverage in our first sentence?
Finally I got her attention to so everything was like
riding on this one like interaction, and I messed it
up somehow. I was like, yeah, I was in Fletcher's
(10:00):
music video. She was so cool, she was so awesome.
It was so fun hanging out with her all day.
And then she like let me talk for a while,
she like let me go on with my story, and
I thought she was like really into it. But then
she was like, so that is my ex girlfriend and
we I don't even know. So then I was like,
I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. And then she didn't
(10:23):
talk to me for the rest of the day and
I got to get her attention. I kept going up
to her and being like, I'm so sorry, so sorry,
and she kept being like, it's fine and I don't
care that much, like it seems like you really care,
and she thought, okay, So that made her think I
was straight because I didn't know their like lore, like
I didn't know, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That is pretty straight though not knowing about I.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Didn't know anything. I so I googled her in the
back because I started telling everyone what I had just done,
not the shoot, and they were like, that is Shannon Bedbridge.
I don't know if Shannon Beverage is. And I googled
her in the bathroom and then I found out and
I felt terrible and I decided I was in love
with her from like her social media, like I thought
she was so hot and it made me want her
even more that like she didn't like me that day
(11:05):
at all, so but she thought she just thought it
was straight, like she didn't know and then yeah, and
then I messaged her. I was like, I think got
because she posted this is after then after this ship. Yeah,
it hadn't talked. I mean she like came up to
me and like asked me a question, but it was
like pointless, like it was not flirty.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And was she flirty or giving attention to anybody else
on set or was she just very much she was
just like.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
In her own zone, except I saw her on Rya,
Like I saw over her shoulder that she was on ride,
so I knew she was single, so I thought I
would could get in, you know, so I down't well
already had Rya, but I changed my Riya to girls
literally that day, and I started looking for her. And
I would run out of swipes every single day looking
for Shannon. But it turns out her like age limit
was set to twenty seven and I'm twenty six. Oh,
(11:52):
so I was never gonna find her. Yeah you cross
that literally ever so but then I she posted a
Q and A on her Instagram a few days later
and it was like, asked me questions about relationships for
my podcast, So I asked. I was like, I'm going
to say, what do I do if I think I'm
in love with you, which I thought was funny, like
obviously I'm not actually in love with her, but she
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didn't answer it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So I was like, this girlings I'm crazy, like crazy,
I bring up her ex girlfriend and then I told
her I was in love with her, and then she
didn't answer, and so then I gave up because it
was like she obviously doesn't like she's creeped out by me,
like that was weird of me, like everything I did.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And then my manager butt dialed her. My manager knew
her because my manager had managed her like years before,
and she told me after because I was telling everyone
like in my life, I was like, guys, I like
a girl. Now it's this girl. And then my manager
was like, oh my god, I used to manage Shannon,
and I was like, oh my god, you're so lucky.
Tell her I'm in love with her. She's like, I'm
never going to see her again. But she butt dialed
her like a week later, like my manager randomly butt
(12:50):
dialed Shannon, which is crazy, like I feel like it's
the universe helping me out. But she was like, oh
my god, I was trying to call my dad can
but do you know Becka more Chan was like, yeah,
I met that girl at the shoe and she was like, well,
Becka is like in love with you, like she keeps
talking about you. And she was like what like she
(13:13):
swore to god, she did not see my DM like
she swears, So I don't know if I believe her
in the question box thing, Yeah, she see it. So
then she DMed me, well, was she following you? Yeah?
Because I followed. She was the only one I followed
from the shoe, so she should have known.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Because the thing is, when when I like people that
I follow like show up, it shows about the top.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So I don't really know if I believe her. I
feel I know, I feel like she was just like
trying to make me feel better. So but then she
DMed me and then I got scared. I was like, okay,
now it feels like too serious. So I didn't answer
for a week and then I finally answered her.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
What did she DM you?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
She just replied to like one of my stories. It
was like you have like just like joking about something
I posted. But I was like I don't know now,
like I don't know if I want to come talk
to a girl because I felt like I finally got her,
you know, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, well, I was gonna ask if you if that's
how you dated guys, like if if it was like
if you got there like you liked the chase, and
then as soon as you got their attention where you
kind of like okay.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, I think I'm kind of like avoidant, like I
got interesting. Yeah, very avoidant. I love I mean just
getting into my like mental self. I don't know, but
like I think, yeah, once I have someone, but then
like she's so sweet that it like won me over,
and I'm like, now I feel more secure in our relationship.
(14:34):
But like, definitely in the beginning, I was like kind
of playing a little bit, like I was like, I
don't know if I really like her, so I'm just
gonna like talk to her for I would like say,
I'm just gonna like reply to this one, and then
she would say something funny and then I'd like, fine,
I'll reply to one more. And then she obviously won
me over and I love her now. So yeah, I
think because I don't think I could like fathom the
fact that I actually had romantic feel like I really
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liked a girl and I wasn't just like being fun,
Like I don't know what I thought in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Did you ever have any Cause when I look back,
I never had romantic feelings like I had.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
For Haley before.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
But I look back on certain things and I'm like, oh,
maybe that was a crush on a girl, or like
maybe that was like a crush, but I just I I.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
What's the word I'm looking for? Like excuse it? Almost
as like, oh, I just have like a girl crush,
but not if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Do you have any of those? Or was oh, okay,
you do well? Shannon was definitely the first one that
I was like, Okay, I want to be like physical too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yes, but I.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Definitely had like codependent friendship where like we were like
I would get we would get mad at each other
if we had a boyfriend, like we hated each other's
boyfriends and we had to hang out. Like I remember
like crying one time on Valentine's Day because of my
best friend Kenzie, like she wanted to hang out with
her boyfriend and not me, And I'm like, that's not straight.
I think that's not normal. But but also but also
(16:23):
like I think it's hard for me to even like
admit that right now, because I'm like, I don't want
anyone in my life, like previously, to think that I
don't want any of my friends to think that I
was like in love with them, you know, because I
don't think I was. I wasn't attracted to like really
feminine girls, but like Shannon is the type of girl
that I would have gone for if I had met
(16:45):
one like her sooner because I lived in Ohio in
Nashville my whole life, so I wasn't around a lot
of lesbians or lesbians that were out.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And I think Shannon that's why Shannon became so loved
in the community is because I think girls saw her
and all of a sudden, like I both my younger
sisters are gay, and they were both like Shannon was
such a like made me think, oh I could be
gay and I could like someone that isn't you know,
(17:15):
like if I think they saw themselves in her and
they were like, oh, that could be me, And I
think she had that a lot of people had that
experience because of Shannon. And I think that it's so
funny that you went, like to that video shoot, which
was predominantly.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I like, you only know this girl.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I had no idea. Well, I because my tagline on
TikTok was like for the girls, not the guys. So
they asked me to be in it just because just
like say that tagline and be like for the girls,
not the guys. And I didn't realize that I was
the only like straight one. Yeah, I thought I was straight.
So I think all those girls kind of helped me
(17:55):
too throughout the day because they were like, if you
like Shannon, because all day I was like, how do
I get Shannon like me? Guys And they're like, you
know you're by right, like you're definitely bisexual, and I
was like, no, no, no, I'm not. You guys are
I'm not? Because I got like it was just fun
like I thought I was joking, Yeah, but I wasn't
joking now looking at but yeah, she but Shannon does
have that effect on people, like I feel like you
(18:16):
can see yourself in Shannon because she's so girl next
door and she like she's not what you think of
when you think of like a stereotypical like I don't know,
like definitely is going on stereotyps, but like they're you
just I don't know. I think there needs me more
representation because she looks so like she could be anyone
like your sister, like your fat I don't know. She
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looks like, I guess a normal girl and not so
Lesbians aren't normal, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
There's a stereotype, there's a stereotyper, and I think there's
people it's like based on how you present. And sometimes
if you saw something your whole life that represented what
a lesbian is, you're like, oh, I'm not necessarily tracked
to that. And then you see someone like Shannon who's
kind of rides that line of femuline femalin, feminine and.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Masculine, kind of good femuline femulin, and it kind of
makes you go like, Okay, I get I could be there.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think I am into girls.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, it was hard though, being like am I just
do I actually like her? Or do I just like
her as a friend. It's like that thing again where
I'm like, am I obsessed with Kenzie the girl that
I was best friends with? Or do I like like her?
Like I don't know. But then I kind of just
had to like be like, well, do I want to
keep do I want to make out with her, Yes,
(19:38):
obviously I want to make out with her. Then I
like her, you know. Yeah, it was just hard to
come to terms with that. When I grew up also
was just scared of like what people. I kept it
a secret even from my family for like six months.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Oh wow, six months? What about your friends who knew
about it?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Only my LA friends knew because I obviously was bringing
her around and like telling them. I mean, I broke
the news in all my groups with my friends being like, guys,
I like a girl like that day, and I because
I was just so embarrassed about the story that had
just had, like the Fletcher thing, So I obviously texted
all of them because I needed their like I wanted
them to make me feel better. And I never like
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came out to like my friends really like I just
kind of was like, guys, I like this girl and
she's so hot. And then all my friends were, even
my O high friends are all like ha ha, Becca,
you need to like redeem your like no one, they
weren't taking me seriously in the beginning because it was
like a joke kind of and then as time went on,
it was just kind of like a slow. They were like, okay, yeah,
Becca likes this girl. Once we me and Shannon started dating,
(20:36):
they were very easy to come out to my family.
I kind of did have to do like the sit down,
and I like surprised them. They thought I was like
pregnant or something because I was crying when I told them.
I was like, oh, I could tell you something. And
it was a little bit more dramatic than my friends.
But yeah, it took me a long time. Even though
I thought that like coming out would be like so
(20:57):
lighthearted now like on the internet, I mean, that was
a different story. But I thought that it would be
really lighthearted and like everyone would be like who cares,
it's twenty twenty four. But then I did it, and
like it's a lot more permanent than I thought, Like
I think, what is that? What do you mean permanent?
Like it feels like I'm just scared that everyone will
think that I went crazy and like I'm wearing a
(21:19):
scarlet letter. Yeah that's how I feel, But I don't know.
I had to like, oh that, like it's just been
like a crazy week or two weeks of people being
like sometimes I'm just getting like weird dms that are
like I don't know that are like Bible stuff. Oh yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, yeah, I get a lot of those two.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah. Wait, what was it like when you came out?
Was it?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well? I think we work together for four years, so
I had a lot of time to like really prepare
and process, you know what.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, that's what to expect.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
In terms of the response from like public. But all
my friends knew basically the day after I kissed her.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, they all, I told them all.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I was just like, my sisters lived with me, which
that was nice because I had I knew I had
their support. But I come from a very like Southern
Christian background, so.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
The family part was really hard and challenging.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And then I was just like not ready to have
it be public, and I wasn't prepared to deal with
getting d MS about the Bible and what you know.
I just like wasn't ready for that. And so when
we came out, I was totally prepared.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So I was.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Ready for anything and everything. And I was also I
knew I had my support system. Everyone knew, and I
was just kind of ready to not have to because
we talked, we talked about me being in a relationship
on the podcast, but we never said pronouns and it
was so hard.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So four years were like, and what are you doing
this weekend? Are you in said person? Going to dinner?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Why did people kind of know?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Or was it?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah? People knew and they were so wonderful because everyone
let me do it my own time.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
There was and then if we if we Haley and
I were out and I met someone like who listened
to the podcast, I would inter I'd be like, this
is my girlfriend Haley. I never hit her in that
way because I never wanted it to be I never
wanted her to feel hidden. It was just private. I
wasn't ready, so it was I don't I get what
you're saying. But I didn't do it as fast as
(23:21):
you did, so I had a lot more time to
kind of prep myself. And I think that I know
what you're talking about the permanence of it. And then
people would be like, I didn't know you were a lesbian,
and I'm like, well, I don't really identify as a lesbian.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But that's what I meant when I said the permanent thing.
I'm like, I don't want people to like I still
had relationships with guys in the past, and I think
I don't want like people to think that, like I
never liked any guy that right, right, Like I'm definitely
by which right? Like do you feel like now?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Like people say like, oh, you're bisexual, and then but
you're like, well maybe I'm maybe I'm fully lesbian, maybe
I'm st like you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I know, I don't even think what when people like
I don't even think I fit into like bisex, so
I just feel like I just like a girl, Like
I feel like, I mean, obviously I am technically bisexual,
but like that makes it feel like half and half,
Like I don't know, I feel like going back and forth,
you know where I'm like, I don't know what my
sexuality is like and why I do I have to
have you know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You really don't.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And I think for some people the label so important
because they live with it for so long that being
able to say, like I'm a lesbian or I'm bisexual
feels like freeing. And I think I felt the same
way as you, as like I don't like being put
in a box. I don't want to have to label
myself or give an answer to this. But because what
I was like in my mind, I'm like, I fell
in love with Haley, and that's what I know that
(24:36):
you know, I know, I know that I'm attracted to men,
But like, will I want to date a man again
if Haley and I don't work out, I don't know.
But that's not even in my focus right now because
I fell in love with Haley and that's who I'm with.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So I I totally wit this whole.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Thing that you're going through. And now I kind of
just I don't care, like say whatever you want. I'm
in love with this person and that's what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
People keep asking me, so when you guys break up,
they'll say, like, when you guys break up, you're going
to go back to men, And I'm like what, And
we're dating and currently we are dating like we love
each other. Yeah, I'm not thinking about like who I'm
going to date next, right, I don't know, Like and
she even asked me that too, She's like, are you
going to date girls like forever now? And I was like, wait, what,
(25:20):
we're literally dating?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Shit?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Why I hope?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
It's it's a It's interesting because I think when you like,
if someone is presumed and you yourself, presume that you're
straight forever, and then you fall in love with someone
and it's different than what people expected from you. They
like need an answer about that, and you don't owe
them that, you know, And I think that you being
able to fall in love with a girl and process it,
(25:48):
and also it's still pretty new for you and like
to be able to process it and you're kind of
doing it in real time.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
With people, it's going to be really helpful for a
lot of people.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
And I also think that it's hard and to like
give yourself grace because I don't think it's I don't
think it's a I know, it's easy to be like
it's twenty twenty four, it's not a big deal anymore.
Everyone's you know, people should be comfortable, and they should.
But I think as a personal thing, it is such
a big deal, and it's such a big deal that
you are public with it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So I hope you feel really proud of yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Because it's so see I do.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I think that it's a big deal and you did
it way faster than I did.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
But you really were like one of the people that
paved the way for me. Like I thought, like, oh
my god, I'm not kidding you were. I loved watching
your story. Obviously, I watched both of your seasons as
the Bachelor. I loved it, and then watching like I
kind of like saw at first of all, you have
the same name, but like I did like see myself
and you, and especially coming from I mean, my family
(26:45):
isn't conservative, but like I came from Ohio and then
I lived in Nashville, So yeah, I think that like
if I had more representation like you, Like I was
really excited when I saw you come out, and I
don't think I knew why. Maybe I should have known why,
Like maybe I knew deep down like I could be
attracted to girls. But I do think that the more
(27:06):
people that do just like fall in love with the
same sex and like just tell everyone and they didn't
expect it, but it's whatever. I think that will help
a lot more people, because I think the world is
just more fun if you don't like put yourself in
a box of like, oh I'm straight, I can only
date this gender, you know, Like I feel like what
if you just like what such?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Like it's so it's so crazy to me that you
get asked these questions and it's like if somebody dm
me and was like if you and Robbie don't work out,
like who are you gonna date next?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Normal? Like go kick rocks? Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Like straight people don't have to do that, yea, stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't know, and there's so much pressure on like
oh my god, Like I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Like why, Like I like they like asking you like
are you gonna have kids?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like yeah, like how are you gonna have?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm like I'm literally twenty six. I don't know. I
feel like I'm I'm seventeen. I have idea. All I
know is I love her and who cares?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Why is it?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Like?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Also, I do feel like a certain like not to
call my family and some of my old old friends out,
but like I do feel a little bit of coldness
from like certain members of my family, and that is
kind of that has been painful. But then when I
think about it, like a bird's eye but also okay,
I'm like backshocking, but I do kind of have to
(28:25):
give them grace because it took me a long time
to like forgive myself and be like okay, fine, I'm
going to dat a girl. So that's been hard. You
don't have to forget, Like it's not about them forgiving you.
I feel like it's them.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, you're right, I know, forgive, but it's not even
it's like them, not no, it's like them whatever it is.
I don't know what it is for them, but maybe
it's something they've been taught or been told forever forever,
so they're like processing and unlearning. And I think at
the end of the day, it's like you do just
have to give people like a little bit of time
and grace because yeah, if they love you like that
(28:58):
will come through.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
That will we shine through? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And as long as they're not like hopefully nobody is
being negative or.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No texting me like yeah, text or anything, but like, yeah,
I do. I just I guess I just want everyone
my message to be like I'm happy, like I want
everything happy for me, And this could happen to you too,
me like threatening.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
If you guys look really hot.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Has your family met her? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Wait, why did I say they face timed her? But okay, yeah,
my mom is like obsessed, like she's like, oh my god,
am my sisters too. But I met her entire family
and that was so fun. They were so sweet.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So y'all meet at the video.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Shoot y'all, Damn, whois the first thing out?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
She asked me on a date, okay, and that's when
we went to drinks and I freakimmed a little bit
too her. I like had two glasses of wine before. Yeah,
you have to.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I was so nervous I ever went to a date sober,
I know, but imagine the first one with a girl like.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'm just terribot. I showed up though, and like she
says that, I was like shaking, like shaking really hard,
and I don't remember that. I'm like, why did that
doesn't sound like no. She didn't tell me until like
weeks later, thank god. But yeah, we sat down and
I knew right away. I was like, I need to
make you my girlfriend, Like I need you, Like she
(30:46):
looked so cute and she was like so she's just
like charming, like she was so friendly. And then after
that that's pretty much like I think before was the
harder part, like getting me to work up the courage.
She'd be like, Okay, I'm actually going on this date
and like I'm actually gonna take this seriously as a
possibility for someone that I'm going to date, because when
she asked me on a date, the avoidant thing came
(31:08):
up again where I was like, I'm just gonna be
kind of like avoid of this girl, Like I'm not
going to text her ato like six pm every day. Why,
I don't know. I think that was six pm.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I don't like the morning spot that happens after six pm.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, Okay, maybe that I don't know. I just like
remember like I would not text her. Yeah, I guess
I thought that I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Eleven, that's dangerous territory, but six pm grabs at her
early brit special at six pm.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I think I thought that story would like land Alge.
I thought you guys be like, wow, so bad. But
it felt like I felt she was as a girl
like and she would text me at night and and
I wouldn't answer for a while six pm until six
It was crazy. But yeah, but how long did that last?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Though?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
That was like because I was in Ohio. It was
like over Christmas? Okay, so because we met December third, okay,
and then we went on our first date January seventh.
Oh so so we talked a lot before you went out. Well,
I remember like PM, Well, the first, she didn't talk
to me for like a week after the shoot, and
then I didn't talked to her for like a week,
(32:29):
So it took like a couple of weeks in between
because I stalked her old like YouTube videos.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But like that's like a long time of like I
feel like, you know, when you're talking to somebody on
like a dating app, I always wanted to meet them
right away because it's like there's only so much you
can talk to someone before you like go on your
first date.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I know. But we had so much to talk about
because like I was watching all of her YouTube videos.
Most you would ask her questions, did she did you
tell her?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I did. The day I finally replied to her DM,
I just sent her screenshot of like one of her
old YouTube videos, and I said, why am I watching
this right now? Haha? But really I was just watching
those to see if like I should answer her, like
to see if I was like for real about liking her,
Like I wanted to like do a deep dive. So
I watch like all of her stuff, and then I
pretended like that was the only one I watched obviously,
(33:14):
but I watch every single one, and yeah, then we
started we kept texting for a couple of weeks, but yeah,
we were texting every day for like two weeks before
finally we gone on this date. So we had a
lot to talk about on our date, and then after
that we spent like every day together like forever. Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So once Chill met, it was pretty much like it was.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Like she was like trying to be like slow down,
like no, not really like it was not like I
was trying to like date or tomorrow, but she kept
being like I can't have a girlfriend right now. I
she got to have a relationship, and I was like,
oh my god, it's totally fine. I don't even care.
And then we did stop talking for twelve hours because
we kept hating. Okay, we kept out, I'm not kidding.
(33:58):
It was so short. She tried to like okay, so
we were hanging out every day, and then I think
she realized that things are kind of probably going to
get serious. So on our like third date, she like
was like I just want let you know, like I
can't have a girlfriend, Like I like you a lot,
but like we can't date, and I was like, oh
my god. So then I cried and then I was like,
(34:19):
well then I don't want to talk like I want
to date you. Yeah, and she was like, good for you.
I know I did stand my ground. Yeah, I said
I want to date like I see a future with you.
So if you don't see that, then I guess we
can't be together. And then she said, what about in
like six months, Like what if I go to therapy
and like figure my life out? What about in six months?
(34:40):
And I was like, I mean, I can't promise that
I'm going to be single in six months, but yeah,
I'm probably still gonna like you six months from now.
I don't really know. And then she left. She was like, Okay,
I respect you. I understand that you don't want anything casual,
so let's not talk for a while. And I was
like okay, And then like twelve hours later she texted me.
She was like I miss you, and then I came
(35:02):
over to her house and then that's when we like
for real decided to like start talking talking. You know,
So when.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Did y'all become a like did you did y'all have
like a will you be my girlfriend? Moment?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
She asked me. In May. On May third, she was like,
she took me to Joshua tree and we like had
an airbnb and we were like walking around. But on
the first night, she like made my favorite dinner for me,
and then we were playing this card game and she
played like all of a sudden, the song that we
first like I think made Out Too came on on
(35:33):
the radio or on the speaker, and I was like,
oh my god, Shannon, this is a song. And then
she was like, I have a present for you. And
then she gave me a necklace and I said S
and B and she was like, will you be my girlfriend?
And I said, obviously, we're already dating, like we had
been an exclusive.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
H that's a long time. R April month, Yeah, April
to August. Where came where there was like my girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
April to May to June, July four months. Yeah, it's
way too long.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
But I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I was like, I'm new to this.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
If you were waiting for me to ask you to
be your girlfriend, I've never done that before, So.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I wasn't gonna ask her. But I had heard
that like WLW relationships. I wanted to say Lassie, but
and then I was like, I don't know if everyone's lasting,
they go move fast. So I know that she's gonna
ask me right away, and I feel like if a
guy were waiting four months to ask me to be
his girlfriend, I would have complained. So I did start
like being like, isn't like I made tiny jokes about it,
(36:38):
but I wanted to be like chill. But then I
like was telling my friends like, if she doesn't ask
me this weekend, I'm going to bring it up, like
for sure, I'm gonna be like, dude, I thought we
were gonna be together. What are we doing right now?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But she asked me what was the makeout song?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It was hopeless romantic by Julia. It's like, it's a
really good song. It's like, I don't know if you
know not Julia prap, don't know. I've listened to it
this morning. It's really good. You guys would listen to it. Okay,
who kissed you first? She asked if she could kiss
me when the.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Night you all hung out for the first time.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Oh yeah, we definitely made out, she said. I made
out though, like a like a girl making out with
a guy. So we kind of had to fix her
kissing sounds of.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
What I just had this conversation because of love Island
because I was like.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Do you Watu Island? I'm trying to I'm on an episode.
I'm really behind, but I'm watching kids.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
It's it's a hard watch for me.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
It was a hard watch.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No, it's good, but the girl the way the girls
kissed the guys was so jarring to me because it's
so aggressive.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, oh okay, I wasn't being agressive, she said I
was being too like like submit, like letting her all
the work. And I was like, oh oops, what am
I supposed to work? Am I supposed to cook?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
In? Like?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
What did I do?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't know? But then we figured it out, got
that settled. The first kiss, I was like, yeah, I
was a little bit. I wasn't used to. I've never
I've only made out with a girl one time in
the bathroom of in a bathroom stall. But it wasn't
like I think we're being performative.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Giving acting.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, it was just it was weird.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Did you feel I'm curious from okay, what was the
longest relationship you had with a guy?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It was not very long. I was like, the longest
one I dated was less than a year. It was
like nine months. But we were breaking up every other week,
like terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
So is this your most like consistent oh relationship?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Oh my god. Yeah, And we are like way more
connected than I've ever been with a guy, Like I
can tell her literally anything, like I'm not worried about
like being cute all the time. Like I feel just
so more myself and like comfortable and happy. So it's
like maybe I'm like I don't know, I don't know
if I could go back to dating men that's like
the same type of men at least, because I was
(38:51):
going for like athletic guys like just super I don't
I think I was just trying to like get like
I don't know, the guy that yeah, the guy that
like everyone wanted and I just wanted to compete the challenge. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Did you have IX with guys like really easily, Like
would you get like what were some of the simple
icks that that Okay, So my whole thing was I
realized when I started dating Haley the things that she
that would normally give me the ick, I don't even
have a thing, Like I know she doesn't it me
at all.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
There's nothing that Shannon could do that would like gave
me the ick and not want to talk to her anymore.
I want to first state with a guy and his
car alarm went off and I couldn't talk to him anymore.
I'm not kidding because he was just so awkward around
the car alarm thing, like he was like embarrassed. That's
so good.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So he got embarrassed and that was Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It was like icky because he couldn't like recover from it.
He couldn't be cool about it went up because he
had to call his dad to figure out.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
What something else.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
This one guy like to watch South Park. I feel
so bad, but I hate south Park. I couldn't This
other guy, my boyfriend, the guy that I like kept
breaking up with. He had these like as tech print
like pillowcases, but like cheap as tech print, like from
Amazon for like a dollar, And I'm so sorry. I
literally posted on my Snapchat story, like on my private one,
(40:24):
and I was like, I don't know how to end
things like them. He's my literal boyfriend. It's just so bad.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
So if Shannon had like full ass tech decory, I
love that.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
She wouldn't have, yeah, but I would be like, this
is so hot. Shannon's like a girl though she doesn't
do anything itchy, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I love that before you fell in love with the girl,
you were so for the girls.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I know it's funny that that was my literal tagline,
and now look at me.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Now, I wonder, well, why was that your tagline? Because
I would like list things that weren't for men, like
silverware and like air. I should have known, though.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
What those were some of my favorite lists.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Could you share with some of our listeners who maybe
haven't seen the videos some things that are for the girls.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
It would be like lowercase letters, shelter, blanket shelter. How
was shelter for the girls? Why do they need that?
They're fun? And yeah they I think that I had
like a bar like men should be like barbarians if
they're going to be in society because I don't know,
(41:31):
like they don't even need to know how to read.
We're good, we don't need them. I should have known
them though that because also like I don't actually know
where I was going with that thought.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
It was really confident, fascinated that you ended up into
LGBTQ artists music videos.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
The first one was an accident. It was I was
friends with Olivia O'Brien and her and Fletcher did like
a collapse on together, and Olivia asked me like the
night before because she just needed Fletcher needed like a
girl to like sit on a bench with her and
like predomin to kiss her, which is awkward, but we
didn't actually kiss, Like I didn't. I don't know. That
(42:11):
was my first time meeting.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I met Olivia like the day before and it was
just really last minute, wasn't planned, and I just showed up.
I didn't know what I was going to be doing.
All I knew was that I was Fletcher's like love
and chirst and I just sat there. Yeah, it was
really quick. It was like a second.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
You and Shandon were together when they did their podcast
together when Fletcher was on.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
How was that for you?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
It wasn't. I know, everyone probably wants me to be
like it was so hard and likes so much, Like
I don't have that much tea about it because I
felt I just felt so like secure in my relationship
with Shannon, like I knew we were already exclusive at
that point, and I think that like knowing kind of
the people in real life, like I understand that it
(43:14):
is their relationship is like representation for so many people,
and it was like iconic. It's like an iconic relationship,
and so I definitely want to respect that, like it
should be in a museum. Like that's it, though, Like
I think it's over, you know, Like I wasn't. I
was just really secure with her because I I don't know,
(43:35):
she made me feel so comfortable and like we hung
out after, like me and Shannon hung out after that
was like recorded, so it was fine. I don't know,
I don't know, well, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
That's like so nice because I feel like that's like
I feel like everybody, no matter how confident and secure
you are, you have insecurities, Like everybody just has them.
And I feel like you're what you're saying is like
my relationship my girlfriend made has made me feel so
secure that even for doing an interview with her ex girlfriend,
that people lore I don't even know what they are,
(44:09):
and that you can can just be like it was
like she was doing her job, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Like she was like working, they were working together, like
both of them, Yeah, they were working.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
But just to have that just goes to show like
how strong your relationship is.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Feeling. I feel like she's like my best friend, and
I don't think that she would do anything to like
ever make me feel unomfortable, like even I mean when
I watched it, I was like, I do feel like
they kind of just watched it. Oh yeah, would you
not watch it? No, I don't think I could. Would
I would?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, for sure, you think I would.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
You'd watch it over and over again and analyze every
single Seaylor, Yes, Okay.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Well, I think that like I knew that it was
just like kind of a job that they were doing,
like you said, like I didn't think. I just I
just know Shannon and life and I know Carrie, So
it's like I think, I just I just know than
like one hundred percent, like I know that it's there.
You know. I don't want to like ruin anyone's day though,
(45:11):
because I understand I know that feeling like when you
want two people to get back together so bad, or
like you ship people in your head so bad. So
I I think I want to respect that and like
let people have their fun, Like that's very kind.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Of very generous, very generous giver.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Becca. Well, I don't know, I feel like it's like no.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I'd favor I'd be like she's mine now lore us
shook us ship us.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
I just don't care because it's not real. It's like Twitter.
So but I mean it was annoying honestly. I will
say though, the day that it did come out, I
was getting like a lot of like hate comments, being
like I want her to be with Carrie. That was
the only annoying part because I was like, oh my god,
why don't you guys like me? Like why do you
like her better? Why does everyone like want? I don't know,
(46:00):
it was more just my ego. I was like, when
you guys to like me too, I'm not that bad.
But yeah, that part sucked for like two hours, and
then I beca more energy Yeah you don't, Yeah I do.
But I was just with her the entire time, Like
it's hard.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
To be like, I know what you say makes sense, yeah,
but it's like I just feel in real life it's like, well, you.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Know what, I honestly think if it were a man,
there's no way, Like I would not know why.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
But so that's so interesting. Why what's the difference, Like, because.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
I feel like we're best friend, We're literally like I
just feel so close to her, like she wouldn't do
anything to hurt me, you know. Yeah, but you're saying
if it was a guy doing an interview with I
would feel different. It's not interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Like scrutinizing body language.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
What me, No, I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Sitting, I'm saying, if there was a guy, you'd be
like scrutinizing.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Watching it over and over, somo being like why did
you do that?
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
So interesting. Well, she also like, I've never dated someone
in the public eye, so I understand, like their life
is like kind of on display for everyone, and they're
trying to like be enter, they're trying to entertain, They're
doing their job to like make you and I mean
Carrie had an album to promote. Yeah, yeah, everyone knew
what they're doing, right, Yeah, I understand. And a lot
(47:23):
of her songs are about Shannon, like not this album,
but like they are they have been about Shannon in
the past. So yeah, obviously it's entertaining to like imagine
if Taylor Swift did an interview with like Harry Styles,
I would watch that too. But I understand that they're
probably never going to get back together. I wish, so
I really do wish that they would get back together.
(47:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
We started.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I was with Shannon over the weekend at a
party and it was so yeah at that beach party.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Oh yeah, okay, we were spike ball partners.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I heard about this.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah, I was very sore and she said she needed
a wheelchair. But she it was so fun to talk
to her about you because she just speaks so highly
of you, and like the happiness radiating.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
From her was so like, we just had such a
great day.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
And I remember thinking we left and I was telling
my sister and her girlfriend. I was like, Shane, then's
so happy, Like it was so fun to be around
her and her talking about Becca.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I feel like we're just a good fit. Like I
feel like we understand each other, and like she balances
me out. I feel like I'm super adhd and like
chaotic and like I'll be like do we should do that?
And that, and then she's really calm and like keeps
me together. And also I've never had a relationship like
thisuess where i feel like we're like almost like puzzle pieces,
like fitting together kind of. Yeah, and like she sees
(48:50):
she understands everything that like sometimes I'll say something to
her and I'll be like, why do I feel this
way about like something random, like any like issue in
my life, and it's almost like dating a therapist because
she like connects dots for me. She's like, well, remember
the story you told me, Like I don't know, it
is like dating a therapist. It's so nice, Like she's
just so balanced, I feel, and she never gets worked
(49:10):
up like I never. I feel like with a lot
of men in my past, like I just feel like
I wasn't ever understood and it was never like I
was kind of there's like a wall between us and
we couldn't get on the same page. And I feel
like it's because I was trying. It might have been
the type of mine. How shosing now, because I really
was going for like the stereotypical like I don't even know,
(49:32):
like popular guy, and I feel like they I was
just trying to get them to see me as like human,
like trying to get them to like view me as
like someone important, like someone important to like make myself
important to them. But with Shannon, I'm already like she
inherently and like important to her, so like I don't
need to do I don't need to prove myself to Shannon,
(49:52):
like I don't need to be like, guess what, I'm
a girl, and also I'm smart, and also I have feelings,
Like Shannon already understands all of that, and that makes
our relationship like way easier because we're on the same page.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Like all the time, she told me how smart you are,
like she's so smart and she's so good at games,
because I was like, y'all should come over for games,
and she like, Becca's so good at games.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
She's so smart.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
No, not that good a game. She's not supposed to
tell people that because then I can like shock them.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Oh yeah, I was, she forgot I said anything.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I know we've talked about a lot about your relationship,
but I'm so curious how your career got started as
an influencer, because did did you start doing tiktoks with
the plan of this becoming your career or did it
happen accidentally.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
It was an accident. I've always like had a pretty
sarcastic sense of humor, So the first video I've made
was me like rating my date party dates sarcastically, like saying,
this guy left with another girl when he took me
ten out of ten. And that video was really meant
for my friends or like people that I knew or
knew those guys, but it went viral, like the first
(51:03):
video I ever made. So then I kept going. I
was like, oh my god, I have so many men
that I can make fun of, and just kept going
on and on. Yeah, and that's kind of where the brand,
like for the girls, not the guys, because everyone would
be like I would never like yeah, I would only
like talk shit about men. H That's when I like
started to take That's when my brand started. Yeah, back
(51:23):
in like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
So, and then you had a series where you would
basically reach out to guys who were in relationships.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
What was it called the loyalty test?
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I to do test? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Did that was that hard for you to like deliver
that news to girls?
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yes? Obviously it was terrible. I would send them screenshots.
I started that because this girl wanted me to DM her,
like a girl organically asked me for that, like one day,
like she was like, Hi, this is so random, but
like my boyfriend loves blonde girls. Will you DM him?
And I was like what the heck? Yeah, obviously, and
I sent her screenshots and he failed the loyalty test.
(52:03):
So then I was telling a story to my friends,
which means like he failed, which means like he like
was flirting idea and was kind of being flirty and
I showed her and I was really sad and emotional
and it was hard for her. But I was telling
my friends the story and they were like, you should
make that into a TikTok, and I was like, I guess,
and then I started doing, but then it got way
too overwhelming, you guys, like I was doing like inundated.
(52:23):
What does that word mean, like like flooded with girls
wanting you to act still every day still, and I
haven't done one in probably two years. Yeah, I have
not done a single one of these and two years
and every I get asked about it every single day
in my DMS. So maybe I should just starting it.
But everyone knows I'm dating a girl.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
I feel like you can just go into my profile
and see that I'm not single, So why would I
be sligning in anywaybe.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Then like a secret.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Yeah, I can make a fence to maybe with like
random pictures, but yeah, I just these boyfriends, and a
lot of them, it wasn't like one hundred percent of
them were failing it was like, like you say the
percentage like forty percent, I would say failed. Oh so
the higher percentage just didn't fail. M oh nice.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
So it's just not crazy, not seene.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, so I don't know if they this.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Is great, great they're not checking. That means they're not checking. Yeah, yeah,
that's good news.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
I'm happy about that percentage. Yeah, would that be crazy
if like I mean, I don't know. I might be
under exaggerating, but that would be crazy if like eighty
I would literally like never want a date again if
it was like eighty percent. It honestly did make me
a little bit jaded towards dating for a while doing that.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
How are any of you feeling this? Like, yeah, so sad? Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
I know that's really I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
Because sometimes we'll get advice things on our emails and
it'll be like, oh, I know so and so's cheating,
Like do I do I say something? And Tanya and
Mark are always like, stay out of it, it's not
your relationship.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
But I'm like you, guys, no, I don't say stay
out of it. I'm like, get in it. Yeah, get
let them know. Yeah, because it would suck, Like, how
else are you gonna what if they never find out
and then they get married or something. Yeah, I just
feel like they find out, I find out. I don't,
or I guess sometimes in some cases, people kind of
don't want to know if their partner is shooting. Like
(54:15):
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
It's like it's like, let's say you meddle and then
you tell them and then they do nothing about it,
and then.
Speaker 6 (54:21):
Yeah, but still a bad guy for letting them know
they're being cheated on, because you're like being judgmental, like
you're not interjecting yourself into these people's relationship, and then
you're like you're not gonna do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Well, imagine that's where you just got to look at you.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
It's all but imagine like knowing that other people knew
and then you if you genuinely didn't know.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I would be mad at my friend, so.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Mad if someone knew and didn't tell me. If anyone
knows that Haley's doing anything, you have permission to meddle.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Get in noted.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yeah, especially you, especially you beca Thank you so much
for scrubbing in.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
I love Where can people follow you?
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Where can people listen to your podcast, watch your podcast,
all the things it is called.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
My podcast is called for the Girls with Becca more
I'm five episodes in, so don't expect to love. I'm honest.
It's like pretty chaotic. It's on YouTube and Spotify and
then my TikTok and Instagram is just Becca more Perfect.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
We love so much.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
It's so happy for you.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
This is like therapy. This is awesome talking to you guys.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
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