Hayley Kiyoko’s Plus One and her Accountability Coach

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becka Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast Hello everybody,
we are scrubbing in.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, Donia's on an elevator over there.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'll have you know that I actually was going to
put on my black Alice sweats this morning, Like I
had them like pulled out, ready to go, and I
was like, we're in the middle of a heat wave.
Yeah we are. I know if I show up in
the podcast to the podcast with my black sweat set,
it's not gonna be well received. So I changed.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I wouldn't have thought twice about it. Really, you've done
it before, You've had a puffer on in this heat.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Wave, I would have said something, Yeah, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Think the puffer era is over. I think I've retired
it forever for the year. For the year. I haven't
worn it once this year and I and now that
it's ninety degrees, I think.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
You can let it go for a how Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's gonna stay in the closet all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, stay tuned for an update on that.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Exclusive.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, we are in a heat wave. I love it personally,
but it's great. Yeah, it's just you know, but you
don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, Well, the nineties nineties, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
But if I had to choose between freezing cold and
nineties and sunny, I'm choosing nineties and so.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
March you would, yeah, March. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I do wish there was a little transition from into spring,
spring to summer, but we just jumped straight to summer,
which is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, we're in southern California, which makes me worried.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
For the summer. A little worried for the summertime. There's
no need to worry. Worry is just wasted time. Ain't
that the truth it is. I'm really trying to be
more like present. Oh that's beautiful. It's the hardest thing
I've ever had to do in my life. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm doing that with Haley right now too, being present, well,
her needing to be present.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You're right, Yeah, your present is present? About me is
I'm I might be living in the past. Actually, I'm
so present. One thing you're not is future thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'm delayed.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
If anything. Some may I argue was healthy, and I agree.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, my cortisol levels are perfectly potentially low. In fact,
today I walked in we had moved the podcast from
twelve to twelve fifteen. I walked into the studio empty,
just me, first time it's ever happened, and it said
twelve six I watched the clock turn to twelve sixteen
and I was still alone, and I said, well, I

(02:39):
have to bring it up and I documented it, so
proof mighty eighty HD didn't stop me today.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So you got here at twelve fifteen earlier.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think twelve fourteen is when I arrived.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Actually I dropped Phoebe off at the groomer and it
was a faster process than I thought. So I got
here so early that I pulled off on the side
of the road.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
To scroll and scrolled. Whoa, I had a like little
scroll sash. Wow. Yeah, I do apologize. Why did you
How did you know that I scrolled?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
That's such a specific choice to make, and I thought
it was so.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Weird because I was early to my acupuncture appointment. I
sat in the parking lot and scrolled. That's so funny,
because I know they don't take me early. They take
me like right on the now. So I was like,
I either just sit up there and I can't scroll
because it needs to be quiet, yeah, or I sit
in my car. Yeah. Okay, okay, So anyways, I yeah,
I scrolled yeah Wow. Well, I knew I was gonna

(03:37):
be late normally we started at noon. I knew I
was gonna be late because I had to go I
had to go to the acupuncture. It was an emergency
and that was the only time he could squeeze me,
and so I I knew it was gonna take me
fifteen minutes for the drive, and I usually am out
by eleven fifty. I wasn't out quite till noon, So
I really cut it tight there.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
So Tanya sends a Texans like can we move the
podcast a tool fifteen?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm like, why say anything?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Like that's normal, literally my normal time, and now you're
potentially pushing me back into other ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Because I didn't want to, on the off chance that
you got here at noon, make you wait fifteen minutes
for me, like.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know you'd hear about it. It was really a double
edged sword for.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
It felt nasty to not say it, to not ask
because I knew I wasn't going to be here at noon.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
People do that to me, really, they told me, and yeah,
they just they don't tell me the right time so
that I show up on time.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dang, and that's something I.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Need to look inward about. You know, did you watch
the Oscars last night?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I did not watch the Oscars last night. I mean
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I would say what I saw of it was not that.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Newsworthy. I just, for some reason this award season, was
not into the movies. Like I think I like the
Golden Globes and the Grammys because I'm into like music
and television. But movies, I'm realizing, and maybe it's my
attention span. Yes, they're all so freaking long. Yeah, like
two and a half hours, three and a half hours.

(05:05):
My gosh, golly.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
You know what I've noticed is like you can tell
when a movie is made for the potential of getting
an Oscar nom Yeah, and they're unfortunately just a little
too over my head or deep or serious or artistic
for me.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
The movie is How to Lose a Guy in Ten
Days and he's just not that into you. So what
am I doing watching Bogonia? You know what? I was
good though, I had to do.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
But it's very good.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Who mind to watch if I have like that kick?
You you know, like it's just I think my palette is
just a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Simple simple for these intellects.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm watching Extract on Netflix. Okay, so let's just call
a Space of Faith.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, we're watching Age of Attraction just so you know
where are Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, I mean Haley is a lot more like she
she's a cinema cinephile. Cinephile. Yeah, is that someone who
like to watch movies?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's yeah, it's not someone who with movies.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
In case you're winder, Yeah, yeah, it sounds a little provocative.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
With how did Hayley feel about the winners? I'm curious?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, wait, so wait, you guys like went to watch
the Oscars at a party?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
No, no, no, no, oh we went to after parties,
but we don't.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
We watched the Oscars at home.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh oh, but they do have the Elton John view
of you party. But w to know, we went to
the after party. So we went to the Elton John
after party and then we went to the Focus Features
after party.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
So the Oscars were at five pm. You watched cover Oh.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I know, we thought they started it five, but we
turned it on and it was already going.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, so you like loosely watched the Oscars and then
what time did you leave the.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
House to go out like eight twenty.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
You know, Becca's gotten big time. When I had to
find out she went to after Oscar parties on Instagram
this morning. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I didn't know that was something you care about.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You didn't even watch the Oscar. I know it's the
biggest night in Hollywood. Like, if you're rubbing albums, would
do a leap in Callum Turner. We passed each other
in the hall. I'd like to know. I'd like to
follow your location and like be on the inside.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, one thing about Haley and I is we like
will plan to go to something and then plan our
getting ready process and think that we'll have plenty of
time to get photos and content and everything, and we
never do. It's always absolute chaos trying to get us
out of the house. We have no time for pictures.
So we were rushing to get to the Elton John
after party, uh to take photos on the carpet and stuff.

(07:31):
And then we were walking down the hallway and do
a lipa and Calum.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Turner, Calm Turner, what's his name? Calm Turner? Who am
I thinking?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh yeah, Calm Turner, who are.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You thinking of?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
So we passed him in the hall.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
We passed him in the hall, and I was like,
oh my god, there's dual because the Elton John after
party I always think of it as like people like
meet like influencers and like people who uh like I
didn't expect you to do at by I didn't. Yeah, I
didn't expect to see like a lists.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I feel like the Elton John after party is like anything.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I get invited to swing, I think, you.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Know what I mean, but big swinging, big swinging dicks.
Oh isn't that the term?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, that's what you think about the Elton John after party.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Is that not like it's like like the heavy hitters. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, But I guess in my mind, I think anything
I get invited.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
To, I'm like, I expect to see, you know, not
a list. But I gotta re shift my mind because
like now I'm Haley's plus one, and Haley is a
feature film director, she's a cinemaphile, she's a centophile. And
then we went to the Focused Features after party and
that one was like intimate and like elevated, like sophisticated chic,

(08:51):
like how long were you at.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
The Elton John one?

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I haven't okay, So then you went to the other one,
the Focus Features there for how long.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like an hour. We literally were home before midnight. It
was amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
It was perfect. Okay, who was at the Focus Features.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And the Stone Gracie Abrams, Paul Mescal, it's like the
drink Mescal, Steven Spielberg, Yeah, I know, his sister Nancy.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
They were like kind of blocked off. I felt like
they were like, we don't want anyone know unless I
Sometimes I.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Thought that the people that were working the event were
like security. And then there was this one section that
we were like, there's a seat, can we go sit
in there? And she's like, oh yeah, sure, Like I
think we were thinking, oh, are we allowed to sit here?
But everyone who was invited to that party.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Where so, you know, Steven Spielberg Encounter no shoot opportunity.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, well I was like I was gonna say, Jessica
Capshaw was on our podcast even I know, I know,
next time, next time, and and yeah it was it
was like really really cool, and it was so fun
because I was obviously Hayley's plus one and so she's
so room well she's so like she's talking to all
the Focus Features people and they're so excited about her

(10:12):
movie coming out, and then she's like my fiance Becket,
and then they're raving about the movie to me, and
I'm like, this is so cool that I like get
to be on her arm arm. Yeah, as an introduced
as a fiance. Wow to a feature film director. Yeah, cinephile,
I keep saying cinema file.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh no, it's just rolling off the tongue. But it's
not feel good.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So it was really fun. And then did you talk
to anyone? Did you talk to Emma Stone? No?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Like, okay, So just for the people who have not
been to one of these.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Parties, yeah, set the scene.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
So the Elton John party is more everyone's walking around.
There's like several rooms. It's a huge event. So like
you walk and then there's a photo booth room, and
then there's a barroom, and then there's another barroom.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Like it's very social.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
There's a dance floor and it's more like you're kind
of mingling up. And about the one that we went
to for which that was my first time going to
one that was like elevated to like intimate like that, Yeah,
it's people sitting in it's dark, and it's you know,
people are just talking with their peers, and it's not
a space where you want to go up and be like, hi,

(11:20):
I'm such a big fan of you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like it's almost like a safe space.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes, of course, So I especially was super cognizant of
that and aware and.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
No, but you could still not be like fangirl and
still like have a chat.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, but if they're like in the middle of a
conversation with their friends, I'm not going to go up and.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Be like hi, you know, it's just not it's not
it really isn't.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Beautiful excited for the Bachelorette next week.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Get if she like got up and walked out and
like had gone to the bar and passed us.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Maybe in that moment, No, Dua was surrounded by.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Her team and they were in a rush going somewhere,
so I couldn't go into the Vanity Fair party. Yeah,
so they were like they're on the go, and I
was just like, oh my god. You know any like
that sound effect when traffic goes by, It's like that's
what it was like.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
But we're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So then the Focused Features party, was it like was
it like sectioned off tables? No?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh yeah, I mean, but they weren't like sectioned off,
like anyone could sit anywhere.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
They were like booth. It was at a bar, which are.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Bar Marmont, like next to Chateau mar Okay, but it
was very chic and it was really cool, just like
being in a room with those people.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean especially for her. I mean like hey, I'm like, hey,
like these.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Are your peers now like you and Steven Spielberger peers.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You both are directed a feature Focus features film.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, so it was really cool.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
But then we were home and I was like stoked
to get I had one drink, French fries, time for bed.
They had an in and out truck outside, heavy handed.
I know, it's like the same same page, same So yeah,
it was really cool. And I can't believe I get
to someone DM me and they're like, sorry to sound

(13:11):
if I just sound rude, but like why do you
go to these You're not an actress? And I'm like, okay,
first of all, the last one to a director. Yeah,
And second of all, I got invited. What am I
supposed to say?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I'm sorry, I'm not a.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Reality show. I really shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh my god, Orlandria is going to the Vanity Fair
oscar party. She was on Love Island. Okay, Becka Tilly
from The Bachelor can go to whatever she wants.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
No, honestly, a lot Landria really is crushing. She's at
everything high level.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So I don't agree.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I don't know who she's teamed up with after Love Island, but.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
In her pr or what is she doing, I think
she's still with Nicholas. Yeah wow, and I don't know
or whatever, but proved me wrong. That's yeah, I not
that interview care. But the winners of Love Island UK
All Stars already broke up. It's been three weeks. I'm like,

(14:11):
oh my god, I know that, Like All Stars gets
a bad rap that they're going on just for clout,
so like knowing.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That horrible, Like, yeah, el fake it for like a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I feel like weeks. It's like I have I have
almond milk in my fridge longer than that. I'm not
saying something.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I would say if I went on a show
like that and I ended up with someone unless they
were just like the worst person ever and I didn't
want to be associated.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
With them after the fact, I would go at least
six months.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, give the people what they want, and I would
do stage paparazzi shots.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Excellent, Give me some TikTok dances. Feed me, okay as
a fan, feed me. Yeah, I feel slapped in the
face because I went to bat for Sammy all season
and now I'm just like, looks like I was wrong.
She did it for the followers. Shoot, yeah, I'm a
chump chumping. You ate it up. She didn't have to

(15:07):
feed you because you ate it up. Yeah. I was
fed less and I was fool Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Can we point out that Tiny did it backwards al
for chump?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Actually though, is that mirrored because it might actually translate?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'm not sure. Anyways, sidetrack, something else.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Really funny happened between Tanya and Haley and I want
to talk about it, but we're going to take a break.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
What happened too quarter back?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
It was a photo finished. I don't know who got
that first.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Okay, So when we went to the Bahamas, Tanya and Hailey.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Was just no idea what you're about to say. And
it's kind of thrilling.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Haley was telling you know, Haley and Tanya were chit chatting,
and I loved that trip.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
By the way, I look back on it with such
fond memory.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
That's so nice. I do too. It was a flash
in the pan. It was fast and furious.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, But Tanya and Hailey were discussing just like diets
and Haley's like allergies and whatnot, and she was just
Haley was just saying, oh, I just like don't feel great,
and I I I just want like my body to
feel better and whatever. So Tanya goes, I promise you
if you cut out processed sugar and gluten, I feel

(16:44):
like you'd noticed a significant difference.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
So Haley, this is spoiler alert. I'm no nutritionist. No no, no,
I'm not giving. I'm not giving.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
This is very I think if people cut out processed sugar,
that's good advice.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
This was just like your own experience from my previous
experience and how it made me feel. So I wasn't like, no, no, no, Haley.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I think was asking because you have allergies and like
you are very focused on your health and exercise, and
she was like, what do you do when you want
to feel better? And and Tanya said, well, I cut
out processed sugar and I can't handle gluten, so I
cut that out. And Haley was like yeah, I actually
do feel better when I don't eat bread, so that
makes sense. I'm gonna try. And Tanya goes, well, do
you want me to be your accountability coach?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
And I'll just like check in and encourage you.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Mind you.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Tanya has tried to be my accountability coach so many times,
and it's just she.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Got read it's not met well more than usual, like
I cannot I realize and it's something I need to
work on myself.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I cannot be held accountable. So but Haley, Haley was like,
I love that. So Tanya starts off and and she
starts sending Haley and Tomorrow's the day.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You're strong. You can do it.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You're gonna feel so much better, get through the first day,
and the next day is going to be easier, like great.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Oprah, it's Oprah.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
And Haley is like, wow, Tanya really texts a lot
when she's doing this like coaching at first, and I go, yeah,
that's why. I was just like, I can't. This isn't
for me, and she goes, I like it. I kind
of like it.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
So they go for like a week or two yeah, no,
like a week a week and why do I have PTSD?
From Becca and the way she handled me as a coach.
So I'm treading lightly with Hailey, Like I'm like, I
want to like help her and like be there for her,
but I also like don't want to overstep and like
because I feel like the minute you get turned off
with me with that, like you're done. So I'm like

(18:41):
I need to I'm just like going to get her
through the first week and then let the butterfly fly. Yeah,
So Hailey's loving it.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
She's like, Tanya is amazing at this, like she could
do this as a career. And I was like, I
told I texted Tanya. I was like, Haley loves this.
She says, you're really good at it.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And then last.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Week, which I guess this week too, goes, I haven't
heard from Tanya, and she goes, it's like I slipped
off the bandwagon. Told her I had a chocolate covered strawberry,
and now she hasn't texted me. And I was like, wait, what,
Like she was she mad when he told her she
had to chocolate covered strawberry. She goes, no, she just

(19:19):
said it's okay, like you'll start again tomorrow, you know,
But I haven't heard anything. And I kind of missed it,
and so I text Tanya and I'm like, what the heck,
Like Haley's missing her text? What kind of coach are you?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
One weekend and you're done?

Speaker 4 (19:36):
You need accountability.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, to be fair, I should have like I should
have had the conversation with Haley beforehand, like how long
did she want me to do it? Like is she
liking what's happening? Like I didn't want to. I just
like I have a little PTSD from doing it with Becka.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's feeling like you're blaming me for your you dropping
the ball, which is quite fair because I not drop
said she's liking this. She says, you're really good at it.
So I gave you the indication that she was enjoying it.
I wasn't saying like Haley.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Too, because I could feel like she was like proud
of herself, she thrives whatever that is.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, I could tell dynamic, I could tell anyways.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I had to text one and be like okay, like
pick it back up, and Haley goes even if she
just wants to text me at the beginning of a
week and then the end of the week.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh no, no, no, that's not how we roll. What
do you mean. Oh, yeah, so that.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
An ideal rhythm is daily, once a day or I.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Was trying to do morning and night like really hammer
in the hope and the top and then close it
with some encouragement at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
You don't have to give away a trade secret here,
but how often do you do in like scheduled text?
Zero zero? It's all live in the moment.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I know you could do schedule text until recently.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, you could just myself.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's a new feature because I didn't know this until
like last week. But now that I did, it's not
every night at a PM.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Sorry, I had a really rough date, a lot of
nachos and great job, let's do it again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Gets some good sleep.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, but she's been really good. Yeah, so I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Even mad about it. I was like, chocolate, a strawberry
is fine, grup, gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, she didn't know. She didn't know if you were
if you were fine.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
With it, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
She thought I was madt disappointed.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
So well, now I'm back on and it really feels
good that Haley appreciates it. I think I thrive in
it too, because it like I don't know, like encouraging
somebody else also like encourages you in a way.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Well, it's like you're holding your own self accountable because
if you're sending these words and then things, it's like,
what about me?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Am?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I am I being a good example for this person?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah? Yeah, Well do as I say that, not as
I do. That's what I was gonna text her yesterday
because I knew I was going for my dipped cone
ID scheduled it the week before of the dipped code. Yeah,
so I like projected onto her in the morning and
I was like, it's gonna be really hot out today maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
So that was really funny, but I'm glad. I'm I
was like, y'all need to figure this out. I can't
be the middleman here. First of all, when they started,
Tanya had me in the chat with Haley and was
like sending the message.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm like, no, no, no, I did not want this.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I have opted out and this is your thing together
a lot me remove myself.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Indeed, it is our thing together. Yes, we'll ride it out.
We'll ride till dawn.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, well until you're unresponsive, which is what happened.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to pre schedule some text this weekend.
I'm gonna learn how to do that for the.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I can't be like, oh, yeah, how was your
one year anniversary?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Was a marriage? It was good? What y'all do? We're
really celebrating this weekend. We're going to go to Combo
for the weekend. And then last weekend we we kind
of celebrate like our family birthday. So we went out
to dinner with the kids and kind of like had
like a candle and and all talked about like, yeah,

(23:21):
I talked about like our favorite moments and memories from
the wedding and like it's so cute to hear your
step kids like just really enjoy your wedding as much
as you did, you know what I mean? Like he
was like my favorite part was getting there and my
worst part was leaving. Like he loved everything about it,
and like I don't know, I know it was really sweet.

(23:43):
And so that's kind of what we did. The night
of our anniversary. He like got me flowers. We both
did paper as our gift. Huh. So I gave him
like a little corner of what I'm like the art
piece that I'm making mission commissioning, which he really loved
and he's gonna like put the that piece up in
his office. And then he said his is taking a

(24:05):
little bit longer and it wasn't ready either, So I
don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Y'all both commission the same piece of art for the
same artist.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I don't actually have no because I obviously told
him what mine was because it was like, this is
just like the teaser part of it. But I have
no idea what he got me. You think he's but
he said it's in the paper realm.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, I messaged him and it was like the day
before because I've forgotten. I was like, hey, FYI, the
first anniversary is paper, so at the very least you
need to have a nice card.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And he goes Becca like because he showed it to
that on it.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
He's like, I'm on it, and I was like, okay, Well,
I didn't want to be responsible as something went down
because I was supposed to say something, so I'm.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
You know, I'm glad you did. Yeah, but you know,
it's actually really funny. We almost got each other the
same card. Oh that's cool. So he opened his card
that I got him and he was like, oh my gosh,
and he went into like little cab cabinet that we
have like our cards, and he pulled it out and
he was like, got to He ended up giving me
the other one.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But yeah, I know, I love the simpatico. Yeah, I
love having a card drawer. We also do that. Yeah,
it's more more for like last minute, like if somebody's
birthday at work and you forget, you know what I mean. Like,
it's it's.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Nice to be able to go through and be like,
oh I have my cards.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yes, yeah, instead of last minute always like oh I
need to get a card for this exactly.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
We also have a card drawer and it's is that
just adulthood?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Wow, it's giving adulthood.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's nice.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Wait are y'all watching Age of Attraction as well? Yes,
it is insane. I know Euston's anti personally Robbie.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Robbie is also anti, so I will say that, you.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Guys, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I mean, the show is. It's so bad. But like,
let's save our synopsis to the end in case anybody's
not watching. But I have some hot takes. Okay, okay,
we'll get to those later, I guess I get to it,
I don't know. I mean, if you want to.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, So if you're not watching, if you're watching Age
of Attraction, you don't want to be spoiled, turn the
podcast off right now, stop listening.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean, it's not much of a spoiler because I've
only watched I think the first two or three I have.
I'm not even caught up. Yeah, I mean, I'll just
lay it up for you.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
The premise of the show is about age gaps, and
it's people from all different ages from their twenties to
their sixties, and they're all dating each other.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
But the one rule is they're not allowed to ask
how old they are.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
So it's kind of calm in my mind.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm thinking, oh, these people have they never seen someone
this age?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Like what is the disconnect? I'll say, I think the
casting department like did a dirty one, because I feel
like the older people that they put in there look
super young. I mean, like the guy that's sixty that
I don't know any of their names, So excuse me,
the guy that's sixty.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
You're not gonna spoil anything because you're just gonna be
like the guy or the girl that's six year I.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Only know their ages. I don't know their names at
this point. But the guy that's sixty does not. He
did not look sixty to me, like I was.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Shocked, but he did not look forties.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
He did not look forties. But thought she thought, yes,
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah yeah yeah, No, he's a good looking guy.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
He looks Did they cast any like busted like twenty
four year olds or anything.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, No, everybody's like, everybody looks great. Everybody's like hot.
But the people that are were the like the older
people to me, in my opinion, looked very young. No,
they like I got all of their in age is wrong.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
They're they're all oh I actually was like right on
the money or like one year off on them.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah. But they did casting in this sense, did a
great job at making it ambiguous because it's kind of like, okay,
are they there's a couple of girls where I'm like,
she might be twenty one, libya, I know.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I'm like, the only reason I know she's twenty one
because she's drinking alcohol.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
That's what Hailey, Guys, I go, I think she has
to be twenty one. Yeah yeah, yeah, she's really cute.
But yeah, of course, the men going for these girls.
I'm like, these men know exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
What they're doing the shop their faces. They're like, I
had no idea she was twenty two.

Speaker 8 (28:18):
I'm like, please, you have a daughter older than her.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Literally, So yeah, it is like the most chaotic show.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
But the way they're editing it, it ends right before
they reveal their ages, so then you're like, well, I
just got to see.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
The next next episode.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, so we're like hate watching it.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So that's what we're like. Robbie was like, I don't
want to watch it at all, Like you watch it
on your own, like it's all good. It always says
that about it, So I do, like I'll wait to
watch it until it's like my time or you know,
if he wants to go to sleep, and I'll watch it.
But he's like, how old is she? Howl? Does she
land up together?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's it's a it's it's it's an interesting spearman. And
it also is like, for some reason, the women that
are older that are dating the younger men, I'm like, yeah,
go girl, And in the men, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh, I'm gonna say that too, Like there's something I'm
so sorry. There's something creepy about a sixty year old
man dating a twenty seven year old girl.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, yeah, yes, Like say, I'm gonna stand tinto down
on that guy.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's just creepy, and like I actually like the guy,
Like I like this guy from what I've seen, but like, oh,
you don't like him, you think there's something weird.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Well just keep watching.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh shoot yeah, from what I've seen so far, he
seems great. Huh. But I'm like, it's just it's giving.
I'm gonna say it. Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I'm if it works like for people listening, if it
works for you, I think, sure you there's a chance
that you find in connection with someone with an age guy.
But it's like, why are you, as a woman having
to find a man that much older than you to
connect with emotionally? Like what does that say about him
that it took him that long to get to a

(30:07):
place where he's connecting with you on an emotional level
while you're twenty years old? Right?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like I'm like I'm thirty eight, and I don't think
I could connect with a twenty seven year old Like
it's like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Really talk about it. I just I keep thinking about that.
And the other thing is like, culturally, men are in
a position of power by default and women are not.
And I know that this is a case by case thing,
but I just when I see this, I'm like, how
can that not come into play? Like this, this man

(30:37):
I better do what he says because he's an older
man and I'm taught to they are leaders.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
And respect my elders.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yes, And I just get I've never gotten the eck
harder than that situation. I dislike everything about this.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Well, I oh, I know a girl that she had
like her own company really young and sold it and
made like a ton of money. It was like a
boss and like was just had her thing going. And
she met this guy who was also like a really
wealthy man. I think he was like a client of
hers or something. And they're married now and they had
a significant age.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Gap, but like how significant, like.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Twenty years probably okay significant, Yeah, But for whatever reason,
they're still together. They have a kid together. Like it
it worked. And I don't know if that was because
she went through something where she was in control, so
she wasn't like she needed right, It wasn't like an
authority thing. I think they just connected and had a
relate and then it developed into a relationship. So I'm

(31:33):
not saying I don't think it can be there, but
intentionally dating someone knowing that there's a significant age gap
from the beginning, I don't know, there's something about it.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I know.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
I also think the state of the world we're in
right now and like just like what we're seeing with
like the men in power, it's like, I don't know,
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm with you, it's like really creeping me out. And
I like, I have this this debate. I was like,
I don't really want to support this show, like I
don't want to give it, having like a moral dilemma
because I'm like I am like I am into it,
and on the other hand, I'm like there's something in
my morality that like I don't want to give it streams,

(32:16):
I don't want to talk about it, like and here
we go and here we are doing both, Yeah, giving
it the most.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Listen, if you're listening and you have a successful, healthy
age gap relationship, I want to know how it came
about and how you connect.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
And we will give you a platform. Yes, yes, we
will talk to me. Will we will hear you out?
You know what I found interesting? And again, pardon me
that I've only watched the first two episodes. I feel
like Natalie is speaking a lot more than Nick, so
much more. Why is that maybe the host woman the power?
Let's give the woman the mic. I love Natalie, so

(32:57):
I was like, okay, great, but I noticed that too.
I was like, she's talking a lot more than him.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Like did they like cut it and recut all her
like re? I couldn't tell if they were like re,
Uh what's it called?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Were you voiceovered? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, because you could hear them talking and it's showing
the audience.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, oh so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Interesting but anyways, Yeah, it is uh fascinating, and we
would love to hear from you if you're in at
least situation that's like good, like that you are pro
pro age gap.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, we won't to hear about it.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'd love to hear your Actually, I would. I welcome
your perspective because I do think that I'm having a
very like viscerally negative, uh feeling about it right now. Yeah,
just from the show.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, like something when you get to a certain age,
I think, like over thirty, if there's like a ten
year age gap, like like if your partner's forty and
your thirty. I feel like, culturally, yeah, it's pretty much.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
The same how I am for eight years.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
I have such a hard time not thinking about is
doing the math at the earlier part of life, Like god,
when so when Nick was twenty one Natalie was two, two, no.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Three, three?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Like I that part and I know that they did
not know each other, not like yeah, that should not
take into yeah, I should not take that into account,
but I do. I think about that all the time,
like wow, when she was in high school, he was,
Oh god, yeah, I just I think about that.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I mean, I think that's probably where the reaction comes from,
because you go to that.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
But I agree.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I think at a certain age you kind of go okay,
I connect with who I connect with. I think when
you're in this developmental stage, which I still think early
twenties of the twenties is like a learning yourself and
about who you are and what you want. And then
I feel like after, you know, after thirty, you kind
of like have a sense of self, so you're able.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't know there is like also correct me if
I'm wrong here, but my impression from watching them when
they revealed their ages, like every guy when he found
out the girl was like twenty two or twenty seven,
was like the girl, and like the girls were kind
of like, yeah, I think I can work with that,

(35:07):
Like do you know what I mean younger girl? Yeah,
Like they were like I did fall in love with him,
like knowing his soul, so maybe that you know what
I mean, Like they have it. I feel like they're
having to like talk themselves into it, which is like
sad to me, but also.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
You and then the older women are like, oh my god,
like when they hear the age, they're like no, like
they're like, can is this?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Can I do it? Like Teresa, is she the stylist? No,
she's the like I think she's fifty four and her
boyfriend or the guy is like Prince Harry, he's like
twenty seconds. She's a stylist. She's so cute. I love her.
But her reaction was so like, well, well, yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
She is fifty four, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Thank you, yeah, yes, I agree, like well thought out,
like the wheels were turning, like.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
He's younger than my oldest son, okay, because she thought
he was older. But she's kind of like it wasn't it.
It wasn't like a immediate I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
It was like processed. Yeah, we're poorhead didn't even tell
his girl he's got three kids. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's
where I left off. He has two kids, but he
hasn't told her. I'm like, okay, nobody needs to ask
you if you have children. I'm sorry she never asked.
You don't have to ask someone. That's just part of

(36:21):
conversation that comes up when you're getting to know someone.
She said, he said, and he said, I don't want
to have it outside of the marriage. That'd be a
great time to say I've had with my previous marriage. Yeah.
Like it was so gas lighty. I was just like, yeah,
so yeah, and that's where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, same, that's where we're at too.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's tough and and like there's nothing else to watch
right now because we finished the UK Traders and like
Love Island doesn't start till June. Like I've got nothing
to like quench my appetite.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I started Love is Blind UK.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Wow, that's a path I don't think I can. Oh,
you have boundaries for that. I can only do Love
Island both ways global global and Traders global. I can't
do multiple more than two.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, if your moral dilemma is so strong that you
can't watch Age of Attraction, then maybe you can open
your open your world to.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
We started extract. Have you heard of it? No?

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Oh wait, it's like they're like stuck in the middle
of yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Themselves and their families like watching and monitoring them, and
they can like send them supplies and stuff. Yeah, that's
desperate times.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
But oh and you know what other show we're watching
is The Dean The Dean Bachelor mansion flip show. Yes,
although it's once a week and it's one episode a week,
so I'm like, hello.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Wait, there was something so funny about Dean having immunity
and leading them to that god awful blue ceiling and
bad idea. The idea could have worked, but the linen,
the linens and everything nothing work.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yes, I agree, I agree. The linens were a bad joy.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Like He's such a little turn like leading them through
and being like, well if they get if they don't
like it, it's not on me.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I like the idea. I just think the blue they
chose was a little toy story. I feel like it
could have been like a softer blue.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, in different linens. It could have been all white
if they wanted to make it more meekly.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Let me be honest. I'm not one to give my
opinion about interior decorating. It's not my forte so I'm
not here to judge. No, but you know what looks good?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yes, but I was excited about the Santorini room, like
I thought it was like and the other room I
thought was beautiful. My god, I was like, got robbed
from that wind. To be honest, the girl's room looked
like a giant cluster. I was like, I would have
anxiety if I lived in this room.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, some really strong personalities. I was like intimidated watching you.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I don't enjoy though, what let's.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Talk about it when we come back.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
We're back, yah, scare of me? I want to expected now, okay,
so what what is something you can't say?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Oh? And this is just a food for thought for
my HG TV people that work you know, I love
I love criticizing shows, although I have zero a legs
to stand on when it comes to this stuff. I
don't like that their peers are the ones judging them, Like,
who are Tasha and Tyler to tell Dean what's better?

(39:49):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
What I mean is in that industry, but I don't
know indeed.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, and so was that other chick I don't know
her name.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
But wouldn't you want someone who's in the industry to judge.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Not my peers? Like it would be like, let's say
you and I go. You're saying, like you and I
go to on a cooking show, we're on Next Level Chef,
and you're judging my meals. I'd be like, who are
you to judge my meals? Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
You think they should have like real contractors there as
opposed to Chip.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
And Joe in a game yea, or like the judges
y or like like they had Christina Hawk Hack. I
don't know how I think it's Hawk come in to
judge one of them like that. I like that, like
bring in like these these like.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
People that are from other like renovation shows.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yes, Like I don't like that. It's I don't like that.
It's like they're peers because they're saying relationships there. Yeah,
but it doesn't feel equal, and I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
We're recapping in on the almost famous podcast The Bend
in Ashley Hye and another iHeartRadio podcast and a complaint
they have is the.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Contest scrubbing in on other podcasts.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Tanya, non stop. That is all anyone asks me about,
is scrubbing in. I plug it constantly. Anyone out there
who listens to uh, Stars Hollow Style, are you a Charlotte?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I think Stars Hollow Style are all.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Scrubbers, entirely scrubbers listening.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I just want to make sure because you and Mark
are always plugging these other podcasts.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
You know, Hey, how about this, how about an anti plug?
Don't download the Ben and Ashley I they're fine, they're fine,
but they don't like the other contestants being able to
eliminate each other like that elimination at the end.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, oh no, that's very survivor vibes.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I don't like that either.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
I wish that Tasa, Tayshia and Tyler voted or whoever
the judge was vouting.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
What are the judges doing then? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
If not for that, literally, that's what I was trying
to figure.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I'm like, why are they the judges if they don't
have a say in who's staying or going?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Do though? Because they pick the winning team so those
people are safe, so they kind of do.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, at the end of
the day, it's like, why not have the guest judge
be like, this is who I would vote off?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
This is It's very Survivor, which we loved, which I love,
so like I'm here for the self eliminating each other.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
It's hurt.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, but I just don't like that the peers are judging,
like it's really bothering me. It's season one.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
You know, maybe they'll get in a groove and and
maybe that'll be the complaint from other viewers.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, they'll listen to I would just like non bias judges.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
What do you do for season two? Do you re
uh you renovate?

Speaker 6 (42:29):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Yeah, yeah, that's that place. Hello, I know it's intomb
now it was in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Uh no, it's in Costa Rican now.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
It's in Costa Rica now. Yes, but before it was
at the same hotel for years.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
It was right next to where you got married.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
And yes, yes, I was what.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I think it was to Loom.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I don't know if they ever did it, Tom, but yeah,
they could renovate that.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, I mean what else did you do?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
You're right after the season, like, what else is there?
But I guess they could.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Do it, like to flip homes.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Think of just buy a flip home and bring a
bunch of bachelor people to someone who just bought a
home and is wanting.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
To flip it.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Would die to just be like, here, give.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It to a show. We're a bachelor contestant. Yes, recognis
renovate my home, risky risky. Yeah, we're enjoying it too.
I just like seeing I love Dean. I just like
to see Dean on my ID to we like text
him while we're watching. We're in like a group chat

(43:29):
and you know, like Rob and I just kind of
like and I was like, are you do you enjoy
these text or do they bother you? He's like no,
I like him, Like, okay, very self aware of these days.
I'm so proud of you. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
We when we talked to Jessica on our episode last week,
we hadn't seen the reunion yet, so I just want
to discuss some of the highlights because okay, this is
all yeah, love his fun.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, gearing shifts, shifting gears well still reality TV. Yeah,
that's why I brought it up.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Okay, this is the tenth season of Love Is Blind, right, Yes,
why on a reunion show.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
I know what you're gonna say, are we.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Why does it feel like it's season one? Like they're
like just getting started. It's like, why are we panning
to the audience?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
There was so much to disc I get it if
there wasn't a lot of juiciness going on this season,
but it was like it.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Was jam packed juice, like they had enough juice to
discover two hours of footage. Yes, I agree with you.
I'm like, I didn't need the Q and A for
I was like having to like squint my eyes even
like know who these people were, because every time I
watch a season, it's like in my head and then gone,
Like they're just like gone, And if I want to

(44:46):
keep up with them, I'll follow them on Instagram like
any normal human like stock them on Instagram. I don't
need you wasting precious airtime on my season ten reunion.

Speaker 9 (44:54):
With season five or like, yeah, a gender reveal with
the posture, so it was like not appropriate, Yeah, it
is so okay.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
There there was a dilemma because when we talked to Jessica,
she was like, we're all the girls are close, So
I thought it was gonna be very like girls girls girls,
and there's clearly a divide, but.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I can't decide who's in the divide.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Well, it's Pre and then Pre who wasn't we never
saw really she didn't have a story. And Ashley Yeah,
and then Brittany, Jessica, Amber and Emma Oh really okay.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I felt like Amber was kind of I think Amber
is floating amongst uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
I don't know. Yeah, stands, but I have a few
things to say.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
When Amber stormed off the stage, I don't know if it.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Was edited to where it felt that abrupt, but I
was like, whoa.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
We went from like zero to a thousand and she
was gone, Like okay, sire. Why wasn't anyone questioning Breemore?
I feel like barely no one was like to question
her her really her conversation with Chris that much. They
didn't really question her conversation.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
With contrast breaking off Breezy Eazy Breezy.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
The after effects have been tough, Like everyone needs to
remember these people are humans. They did sign up for
a TV show, But like as someone who's been on
a TV show, you don't realize how much of an
opinion people are going to have on your decisions or
how it's going to be edited until you do, and
it's it's a lot, so you know you can be

(46:38):
question someone's uh choice.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, And like I honestly had a little bit of
an issue with the way, like I actually like Nick
and Vanessa. I like them as hosts, and I think
they usually do a pretty good job. But this reunion
I felt like they were really condemning people in a
way that like.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I don't know, like you need to get therapy, and
it's like I don't know that you're.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, Like it just felt very like look like like
you said, everybody is coming in at these people, like
especially what's his name, Chris, the guy like obviously we
all hate him and he said and did horrible things,
but like the way that he was treated, the way
he was spoken to at the reunion to me was
just like that's not your place as a host, do

(47:21):
you know what I mean? To like condemn and like
we've all made mistakes. If if we'd filmed all of
our lives, like I'm sure a lot of us have
said and done horrible things that we're not even aware of,
you know what I mean. And so it's just like
I think the way it was handled, which is like
a little bit too like aggressive in that way, which
like rubbed me wrong a little bit.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Well, you also have to think about people's mental health,
like these are human beings, and like he's on this
not like international stage that people are watching.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
From all over the world, and it's to edit it.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Like that's not a live reunion so anything. Even if
they asked him a question, he didn't give them anything.
They could have just cut it out and not even
addressed him.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Yeah, I just felt like at a certain point, it's
like he did and said some horrible things, and I
hope that he's looking inward and reflecting on that after
seeing it on TV. But I don't think it's someone's
place to criticize or condemn to the point where you go, like,
I hope he doesn't harm himself, and that's like a reality.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Of yeah, Like I honestly think he was like on
Beta Blockers, like he did not he looked like he
was out to lunch that whole reunion, like he was
just like there but like not there.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
I saw Vic say that that he was like where
he's like listen, you know, it's one thing holding people
accountable for their actions It's another thing like thinking about
people's mental health and like what they're going to do,
you know, outside of being on this public stage.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
I was shocked to see, well Jessica made it seem
like Amber and Jordan were still together.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yes, and I was I was devastated with that.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
You were like, yes, I was only worried about them,
and I'm glad they're still.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
To King and Queen And now like that, it shattered me.
They couldn't be more not together, couldn't be couldn't be
further apart, couldn't be further apart. I'm like, on both
of their sides.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
They just were not right for each other.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Correct. Yeah, And and also like I want to say,
like she she was like, you don't do that. You
don't make that promise with somebody that has a kid,
as someone who dated somebody that had a kid, Like
you really don't know what it's like until you're in it,
do you know what I mean? Like, you can't predict,
you can't make like a commitment until you Like again,

(49:32):
they're on a TV show and they have a limited
amount of time, so it's like it's a totally different situation.
But like you can't make these promises and until you're
in it and you like live life with these kids
in this as a family, do you know, Like that's
when you really experience it. And so like I was like,
she's kind of throwing it in his face that he
did something like nasty to her child when I don't
think that was his intention at all, not at all. Yeah, yeah,

(49:54):
I just think like the two like even said, like
the two of them didn't get along, had nothing to
do with for having a kid. But yeah, the and
then did we not learn anything from the reunion with
the basketball hoops? I'm like, why are we watching Devonte
and oh Alex Alex shoots soccer balls at each other?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Why are they living together when his pregnant fiance lives
in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
That's what I'm trying to Why are we watching them
for soccer shoot out like on the reunion? And then
what's this musical guest Like, oh.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
My god, it was a minute? What are we doing?
They they It's there's been too many seasons to excuse it.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Like I as an avid TV watcher, I would just
like to be a consultant on the I will give
my advice for free because I do like that they
have the old contestants back in the audience. I do
feel like it. It makes them probably feel more comfortable
instead of having like, you know, strangers that they you know, like,
they have their peers there and it's not as like intimidating. Maybe,

(50:58):
so I like having them as guests audience. Do we
need an audience though? Oh? I just don't need questions
from them or like moments with them.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
But someone someone like posted photos from like them being
in the green rooms and backstage or whatever, and they're
like eating pizza and they have like chips and snacks
on paper plates, and everyone's like, so you're gonna give
them like a black tie event and show for them
to get all styled for and you're gonna serve them
pizza on a paper.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Plate with sodas and chips.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
You know what? No, No, they're budgets too big for that,
you think, Yeah, take the money that you paid for
your musical guests and give them some well what should
they give them? Filet mignon?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Maybe just sit down dinner and like sat the table
and a chicken, a chicken breast at the very least
on some china or so they have.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Some good looking plastic silverware. Now we can do better.
I set up a tablescape with Amazon plus. D oh
me too, stunning, stunning. That is so funny, I have
It's funny that. Okay, So peeling back the curtain, feel

(52:15):
feel back on how we did the podcast. But we
interviewed jess that Tuesday, which is why Becka said we
hadn't watched the reunion. They didn't give it to us,
but they basically told us, well, we thought, yeah, there
are some things that were wrong, however whatever, but uh
so we were told that we couldn't air Jessica until today,

(52:35):
this is the following Monday, and which is a bummer
because I do feel like now that we're talking about it,
I'm like, I feel like the reunion was is so
old at this point.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I still see people talking about it, which is why
I brought it up.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
So but I'm so glad because me Tanya, sitting in
my bed, I'm scrolling, scrolling, and I'm seeing all these
Love is blind people doing podcasts. So I'm like, poke,
poke to our producers, Look what's happening. All the people
are talking like why are we embargoed until Monday? So
then we got to the bottom of it. It was
just Jessica and her new boyfriend was the embargo until Monday.

(53:10):
But Jessica herself we could unleash. So we unleashed her
her episode, her episode last week, and we held on
to the embargoed part of the interview, which was her
and Harmal Harmle together on the podcast. Yeah, but I
felt really like proud of myself for like getting in there.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Proud of you because you were relentless.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I was like, Tanya's texting the group toad again, what
is she sending? And it's like another kept sending that
more interviews, this person's on this podcast, this person's on that.
I was like, why is ours held till Monday. I
just didn't appreciate that we were being held to a
different standard than other podcasts.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
And I agree, Oh, we weren't a bunch of taste
back responses so much.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I take that. What why?

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I forgot about the taste back of it all? And
I got so many messages. I was like, oh my god,
I forgot this is what we said, tory.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
So many taste back messages so real validated in my theory,
well our theory. What was your theory that people listen
in twenty minute increments, but they come back to finish
the episode. So like us doing shorter episodes, wasn't behooving
our listeners longer. Yes, it wasn't behooving anyone because we
were like, oh, if they're only listening for twenty minutes,
then we're not listening to forty minutes. But no, they're

(54:22):
listening in increments of twenty minutes but coming back to
finish episode.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
So we won't be doing twenty minute episodes. Don't worry.
They won't be getting shorter.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
No, and we care getting longer as the days get longer.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
And the days are getting longer and warmer and warmer.
So well, so should we release the harmle the Harmor files.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, just harb Yeah yeah, So we're going to tack
on our Jessica and Harmal portion of our interview to
the end of this episode for your enjoyment. Please listen
to it and give us your feedback. Yeah, let us
know what.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
You think about this new couple and we'll be back
on Thursday with the dear Boy. Yeah, and something very
important is happening this weekend.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
That's right, The East Awards are this weekend Saturday the
twenty first, and if you're not in LA, you can
watch it on a stream Eastwards dot com. You can
get your tickets. It's a lot of fun. It's got
a lot of crazy stuff happening. I have definitely over
extended myself with a lot of moving parts. It will
be very funny to see how it all crashes down
on me. But I wanted to say I put I

(55:35):
put taste back in the show. It's hidden. If you
watch the Eastwards, there will be Taste Back hidden somewhere.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
The words are words, not the song.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I don't know the rights to that. You kidding me?
The words taste back, the words tasteback or in the show,
And if you DM me where that you saw it,
I'll send you an ecwords hat or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
But yeah, you've really up to the east Awards from
like significantly this year.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yes, it's it's at the Allegian Theater. If you're in
l A and they are as of this recording, there
are still tickets available and it's gonna be a lot
of fun, you guys. So yeah, I'll see it on
the twenty first, Right, you're talking about this on Thursday.
We will not mention these awards on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
No, No, this is your this is your heads upwards.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah and following easton on.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Oh yeah at Eastern follow me.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
Come on, I need this.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
We love y'all so much.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Love you don't enjoy Jessica and Harmel.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
Please enjoy.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Harmel has joined us. They're very cute. They're smiling and
staring at each other.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
So we got a little bit of the rundown of
kind of you were in the pods you left because
it was just like overwhelming, which I actually could under
I can understand. Yeah, just not even having my phone
or a computer for like days on end, Well, huh
make me in my head too much? I think, Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Know for sure. I think.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
I think for me, I had like a I was saying,
somewhat of a unique mindset going in. I think like
coming in, I was very conscious of like whatever I
say or do on TV, the Brown people don't get
like screen time very much, and so I felt like
I was representing like my family and my culture and
all these things, and so not that I was like
walk on eggshells, but.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
I was very very aware of whatever.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
My pursuit is, which was Jess, But like, whatever I
decide I want to chase after that, there are more
consequences than just me, and so I like I think
sometimes people forget that, and I just was very aware
of that early on.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
What's your background, Like where your parents from?

Speaker 5 (58:02):
So my parents are from Punjab, which is northwest India, Okay,
So like they moved here as immigrants, and like they
just like the amount of sacrifice they had for me
and my brother and stuff like that is not something
I take for granted in anyway. And so like I
like really really care about That's like the cultural thing,
the heritage thing, is like very important to me.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
And so I walked in with that understanding.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
I was like, I want to be the best version
of myself, not to reflect on me, but my parents
and like my family and like my culture and stuff
and so and so I walked in with that and
one part of that was just like making sure I'm
doing this for the right reasons. And I actually never
wanted to be on the show. Like they reached out
and they were very persistent, they were very they were

(58:40):
very persistent, and eventually I was like, Okay, let's go
ahead and do this thing because I've like, I don't
really watch much reality TV, but I've seen like The
bacheloun of The Bachelorette, and it bothers me because, like
people say, it's like you know, scripted or something, but
it's like watching people get their hearts broken and people
just like it's like something to consume on TV.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
It bothers me so much and so I have a
hard time watching them.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
I'm like, I don't know if I can be involved
in something like that, but they're like just like watch
a season and I watched one of the early I
was like, Okay, this is like something maybe we can
do in a safe way that people aren't.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Gonna get hurt.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
And so I think like as it went on, it
was like so good when I first got in my element,
I love talking about this stuff, like it's so great
connecting with people.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
And then once it got towards the end, it got
like very very real and not in a bad way,
but in a way where I was like I just
started feeling like, man, people are gonna get hurt. Like
whether it's like I'm okay with getting hurt, I'm fine,
I can deal with that, but to be the cast,
like the pain for somebody else and uh so what
like just the only reason I was even there, Like

(59:38):
I like when we watched into the pods, like I
didn't expect to really meet anybody. I expect to connect
to people, but like it was just like we the
number of things that happened, and I wish we could
watch it back because it was like.

Speaker 6 (59:49):
Lightning moments.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Have you asked them for the footage?

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Not yet.

Speaker 10 (59:53):
We haven't directly asked, though.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
We need the public to get involved.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I think they should, even if they don't even release
it on like on Netflix, they should release it on
like their Instagram and stuff so that people can see, Like,
we want to see how you guys met, Like the
talk about Gusher.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I first of all, love what you said about your
representation in Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
That is not something you hear a lot about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Even if it's something that people are processing, it's not
something people talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
So I think that's such an important conversation. I want
to know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
So y'all met, it was electric of course when you left.
I mean, do you think if you hadn't left, would
y'all have had that the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Moment of choosing each other and the doors opening?

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Yeah? Yeah, Honestly, I think there's a there's a duality
to everything is Like, I think sometimes people use these
phrases that kind of exempts them from responsibility. So for example,
like like the universe has a plan, like God has
a plan, a plant like everything, and I believe that
to my core, I believe like everything happens for a reason.
But sometimes people use this escapism. We're like, oh my God,

(01:00:59):
like everything happens for a reason. And then but you
have to meet it, you know, like if like if
everything is in front of you on a silver platter
and you're afraid because something bad is gonna happen and
you don't meet it. Yeah, like people, the good things
don't happen if you're just stuck in your house the
entire time.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
So I think there's like a two version of that one.
It's like like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Look at where we are right now, and this is
amazing and I love it, And then I also look
back and I'm like, yeah, do there's some level of
responsibility of being like yeah, dude, that if they put
everything in front of you, everything was right there, you
had the moment you had everything, and you just didn't
like do it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Do you guys?

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
What emotional about this stuff? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Sign?

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Oh what do you think my sign is?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
We talked about this, so Tanya, I act like she's
gonna be able to guess everyone's signing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Yeah, go ahead, are you I've heard pisces before. Now
I'm the cancer. I've heard cancer before. My mom is
a cancer, so probably.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
A lot of my mom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Scorpio No, not a scorpio.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
No, keep going, keep going, keep going. This is great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
That's Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
God, I thought a sign because you're emotional.

Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
I am very emotional. Le No, I'm not too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
You're not a Gemini.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
No, I'm not a Gemini.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Hilarious sad, sad hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
No not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Aquarius's fantastic a libra No, I'm not a libra.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
Virgo virgo. Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
Something that makes me feel really good about that is
those like things when you fall into a category where
it's like, oh, I know what you are.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
The fact that you came up with like eight different things.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
I think that's the best part about humans is like
it's so the more complex you are, the more parts
you have to yourself where it's like, dude, what is
this thing that's in front of me? Like I think
everybody has that in them and it's just like, I
don't know that makes that made me feel really good
that you can pin me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Down with the sign.

Speaker 11 (01:02:47):
Dang, my senses are also is your your mentality is
kind of like, Okay, I I went what was supposed
to happen, I was I was supposed to talk to
Jess at the very leak, so I was supposed to
connect with her on some.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Level, but I had her like it was handed to me.
But I I walked out.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
But because things work out how they're supposed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
To, we reconnected and here we are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Yeah, that's kind of the mentality of you had to
make one step, which is to go on the show,
and that that was the one step that mattered.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Do you guys work at the same hospital, don't? Are
they close?

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
That would be a problem you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Want to be a problem anatomy.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
I can talk about it. For me, it would be
I would be very distracted.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
But it's not like are they close by?

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
No, But you guys have an understanding of like each
other's careers and lives that I think most people don't
really have if they're not like in it.

Speaker 10 (01:03:47):
Yes, it makes it a lot easier.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Did you watch the scene heard around the world that
we all gathered around Jessica and collectively united on something.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Finally, Yeah, which is great.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Did you did you watch it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
I did?

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
I definitely, I definitely watched that. Yeah, not too First
of all, was it hard to watch?

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
It was? Uh? Yes, And there's so many layers to things,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
I think that's the thing where will people watch people
on TV and it's just very quick to reduce something
to your initial reaction like oh, this is how people should.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
Feel about it, and there's like so much complexity to it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
I think the one thing I felt the most was
just like I was very proud of her, Like it
was just like, dude, to be able to handle that
in that way they was talking about like like oh
my god, everyone knows gets their flowers, but like what
cemeteries is it built on? And it's like how much
have you had to go through to be able to
handle that in that moment? And it's like those layers

(01:04:45):
that like no one sees. It's like I was like
very proud of her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
It was truly amazing, Like we were just we were
talking about it earlier that like her The way she
didn't even give him something to work to react to
was the most powerful.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
I was like, that's someone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Who knows their worth. Like that's what I took away
from it. I was like, Jessica knows who she is.
She didn't need him to say say anything that was
complimentary or try to go back.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
She was like, I don't need to hear anything else
from you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
You've said enough. And that was like very impactful. I
hope that people watching were able to be like, Wow,
that is how I hope to react to someone who
ever treats me that way, if I'm ever in that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
It was amazing you get over there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
I just want to say for people that don't react
like that, you know, like it's like some grace, you know,
it's like, I, how can you like that? We just
watched like the APEX version of that thing, where it's like,
how do you have like self respect? How do you
know your worth? How do you do it in real
time when someone's coming at you. That's a very different
situation than like on a quiet Sunday when you're like, yeh, dude,

(01:05:58):
you're doing your mantras, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Talking about I just have to like I've been obviously
not in front of cameras and like not in front
of any of this stuff, not from a man like
I have been called like Chubby this uh Plaine Jane
Ugly like all, like from somebody that like and my
I did not react the way that you did. I
was just like so furious and so it's like to

(01:06:19):
be able to handle it the way that you did,
like really actually inspired me to just kind of like
be like Gray Rock. Yeah, Gray Rock, I've never heard
of that, but like yeah, it was really like it
was something that you should be really proud of.

Speaker 10 (01:06:34):
They just don't deserve any bit of you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Yeah, they don't. Yeah. So you what was the first date,
like when y'all reconnected, what was the first date, because.

Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
I've been talking like.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the first day was like we
we ended up so we ended up going to like
a wine first of all, trying to pin her down
to be like, hey, can we just hang out?

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
We heard my god, we hear little confusion on where
the romance and friendship.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
Well that's fair, that's fairs, And I hit out my
bros like that.

Speaker 10 (01:07:16):
I realized that later.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
So the first like that we finally Like it was
actually funny because like I was if I want, if
I want something or if I need, like it's like
I'm very persistent with it, like very persistent with it
until it's very natural, like until something changes, like okay,
like take a hit because I think another thing is
like I'm not trying to tell people like guys are like,
oh my god, keep.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Like try and keep trying.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
It's dude, take a hint sometimes, but it's like if
something's really important, like also, don't go the other way.
I think there's a thing about like good guys and
bad guys to put that in air quotes, but it's
like I think good guys need to be more persistent
and do more good things. They need to show up
in spaces that they're like nervous about doing because they're like, oh,
maybe I'm being too much maybe on whatever. And then
all of a sudden, it's like all the bad guys
are doing the opposite where there's like really percent it's like,

(01:07:58):
dude to chill. And so I remember the first time
we finally like hung out. It was at a wine
bar and it was after I think it was after
work for you. I don't eve remember, but I was like, hey, listen,
don't evenet dressed up, just like we're sweats. Can we
just like hang out And she's like, yeah, let's do that.
And so we ended up going to the wine bar
and we spent the first couple of hours she was
like talking just catching up on all the like life stuff.
She's like, oh, like this was happening with Lyric and
that's whatever. I like talking about advice stuff, and the

(01:08:19):
whole time like I don't want to talk about this,
like I need see you to know like what I'm
here for, like very like I need you to know
what this is. This is not like hey, let's hang
out thing. Yeah, And so at some point it just
kind of flipped. I was like, hey, by the way,
I really really like you. And I showed her like
a I had this text that I hadn't sent where

(01:08:41):
I was like, hey, Jessica Barry, I would really really
really like take you on a date, and I just
like didn't send it and I was like holding on
to it for a while, and then we finally had
the had the date and I was like, here, I'm
just gonna put all of my cards in the middle
of the table, like here all the eggs in my basket.
He says, say how I operate. It's like I don't
half step. It's like, dude, if I'm doing something, I'm
doing Yeah. And so I remember I said that, and

(01:09:02):
she like, I think you.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
Had like a panic attack. And basically I think you
had a panic attack. She was like, oh, man, like
I don't I'm not ready for this. I don't want
to She just straight up said, no, this is that
the wine bar. This is the wine bar.

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
She's like, I'm not ready, which which again talking about
like just respecting people in the space. It was like,
first of all, I was like, you know, leading up
into this, like we hadn't even started, like the and
like like her life was crazy, all things are happening.
So being able to take a step back and be like, yes,
I respect that. And so she wanted to be friends
for a while, and so I said, okay, let's be friends.
But I also don't text my friends forty times a day, right,

(01:09:34):
And so I'm a very emotional person, Like this means
a lot to me, Like I'm not talking.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
To girls like this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
I don't do that, and you're the person that I'm like,
I don't have side stuff going on.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
I'm like, you're just it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
And so we kept running into that problem where I
was like we would text, we would text, and then
I would be like, hey, I'm every text I send
you mean something.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
It's not. I'm not being friends with you. I can't
do it. I feel like I'm living a lie. I
can't lie.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
And so eventually came to a point I'm like, I
don't think I can do the friends thing again. And
I respect your space and I'm going to like really
mean that, like you take care of yourself, you do
your thing, but I can't be a friend to you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
It's just a lie. And so I think it was
what we went through like a mini moment.

Speaker 12 (01:10:14):
I was like, okay, fine, and then like twelve hours later,
I was like wait wait. I was like, no, I
need I need you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Oh.

Speaker 12 (01:10:23):
Miss, I miss your text texting a couple of the
other girls, and I was like, why do I feel
like I just like went through a breakup and we
didn't even like we weren't even actually like dating yet,
and I just like spiraled all night.

Speaker 10 (01:10:36):
And then finally I was like, so if I wanted
to be brave, what would that look like that's what
you said.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
Yeah, you just I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
Everyone's trying to like do something and get somewhere, and
I think it's just trying to create spaces where it
can happen, Like just trying to create safe spaces where
like good things can happen.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
And so that was my thing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
It was just hey, what is that? What does that
look like? Because I want a version of this, but
like really what I wanted just was best for you.
And so like creating a space where you allow it
to flow, where it's like, you know what, if it
works out and we're doing awesome, Awesome, if I can
be your friend and that's the best way I can
do it, awesome. But if you need to be over
there and that's the best thing for you, then like
that's how it works. But just creating a safe space

(01:11:19):
where it's like the pressure of expectation and whatever. I
just don't want to I don't like putting people in
space where they feel like they have to do something.
So like you to take care of yourself and like
I care about you enough to like allow that to happen.
And this is how it worked out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
What was your favorite song on each other's playlist when
the silent disc go.

Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Well, first of all, I don't really remember. We listened
to very different music. Also, we had two playlists. One
were one was five songs that mean love to you
and five songs that like explain who you are?

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Okay?

Speaker 12 (01:11:51):
And I wasn't about to make him listen to my
love songs after I thought he was like, baby gonna
break up. So I was like, let's just listen to
our fun songs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
That'd be fun.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
What was it like? What was your fun playlist?

Speaker 12 (01:12:06):
Mine was like Taylor Swift, Alicia Keys Ahead, I can
do It with a broken Heart, gir on Fire.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
You remember all these?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
And I understand the Broadway song? Very different, Okay, go ahead.
What's your other one?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Well, it's it's the last question of the podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
What what does the future hold for them? No?

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
Oh gosh, what's the question.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
It's love blind. I'm gonna ask you, my bad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I just want to know, like what the future holds
for you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Guys?

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
Do you think love is fine?

Speaker 10 (01:12:51):
I don't.

Speaker 12 (01:12:51):
I still don't really know. I got to see him, but.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
You you you had feelings before you see Yeah, yeah,
very much, so, very much so it definitely would not
I've battered.

Speaker 10 (01:13:08):
He just happens to be really freaking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
As the future hold free any Like, I mean it's
been a couple of months, but like I feel like.

Speaker 10 (01:13:18):
Especially we were actually just talking about this on the
way here.

Speaker 12 (01:13:21):
I'm such a planner and such a like what's next?

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
What is this?

Speaker 12 (01:13:25):
And we're kind of in a space where we're just
who knows what happens next, And so I'm trying my
best to kind of like lean into that and actually
go with the flow for ones in my life and
just actually enjoy the moment that we're in.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Yeah, I think plans.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
It's like plans are really good, but you just miss
these like a little moment for example, like this, you
guys do this all the time. There's the first time
we're doing this, Like this is this is just cool
to hang out with you very very nice, and then
we get to do it together. And like we were
at the airport and you're gonna think it's silly, but
we were at the airport and we're like walking and
we had to cross this crossway and like the you know,
like the walking sign like stopped, and she's like, oh

(01:14:03):
my god, we have to get across the street and
I was like, I don't know, dud, did we have
to do that? And we just kind of stood there
for a while, like looked at each other and it
was just like this little moment, if you have plans,
you just.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
Like miss those things.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Who yeah, so I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
Just doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
She's like, there's so much life happening right now with this,
and it's just like like good things if you just
like just stay in the moment and you're like very present,
like good things have to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
So we're just there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
So you guys, stay in the moment. We will keep
leading the charge on getting Netflix to I'm going to
take that on. Thank you so much for your time.
You really really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
I think we are all just so hurting you seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
It's like you watching watching your journey and seeing where
you are now is like the most like satisfying ending.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah, for this chapter. So we're very happy for you
and both of you together, and hm, we can't wait
for next season.

Speaker 6 (01:15:05):
Bye bye.

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