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April 14, 2026 42 mins

Tanya tried a social media detox…and it was unsuccessful. But how can you try to stay off social media on Coachella weekend?? 
We dive into all the Coachella content and things get tense when Becca and Tanya are split on Justin Bieber’s performance! Are you a Belieber? Or is it giving lazy? 
Plus, a full breakdown on the lore of ‘lix and ‘lex.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becka Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
and two times People's Choice Award winning.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Podcast, Hello Everybody, we are scrubbing in.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello Monday Postcutch Hella a La laa.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's winter in la Yeah, it's cold. We got back
from Mexico yesterday and we're like.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's freezing here.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's freezing.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah. Does that mean it was cold and control? It
was a cold and coachola this year.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I heard one night it was like windy and cold.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, yeah, I saw people went back to their campsite.
But during the.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Day it was quite sweltering.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh ah.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Just so people know, current temperature right now where we
are in Burbeng's sixty five degrees bur cold.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay, Well, it's also been like really warm here consistently.
Oh shoot, I'm trying to not say like, and I'm
trying to eliminate filler words.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
And I very quickly probably did that multiple times. I
forgot I was doing that. Here's my question.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm trying to eliminate saying like, I love like, I
don't like it, I don't like it because I'm always
impressed when people can can have a conversation and not
use them. I got it, and so I personally think
it's a sign of intelligence, and so I am trying

(01:24):
to eliminate saying them, especially when I'm going on other
podcasts and stuff and speaking to other people. Well all
the all around.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I just noticed it more because I was on another
podcast and I said it a lot, a lot, and
just a little clip that was shown and you.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Were like like like like like like like.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Like and like and like and like, and it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I'm here to champion your endeavors, and your question.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Is it Do I treat it as if it's a
swear drawer? Do I? Do I treat it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
As if.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I like both worked, not as filler words in that
sentence it didn't work. Do I treat it like it's
a that's not a filler word that's a key component.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That you did it. Do I treat it like it's
a swear jar? I'm just trying to figure out how
do you stop.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yourself from doing it if you're speaking every day and
no one's there to.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Go right.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Every time?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Very practices, not on the podcast, like in your every.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Day I have to practice it in all conversations that
are had, So we'll see if I'm able to catch myself. Okay, anyways,
what were you saying, Oh, Mark was telling us the web,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
When you're talking about the weather.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
So yeah, pivot, it's the Monday after Coachella.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
It is what you were having a lot of feelings about. Yes,
I was tell me about them because you were saying
you had some fomo.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yes, uh, yes I did. Why didn't you know ticket prices?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You can't get tickets. They're part of.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
A no I can't what.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
No, they don't send you boots on the ground journalism
like they used to what.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
They used to do. Yeah, yeah, they used to do
not anymore.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Also, I'm like in this, like Tender Tanya Era and
Tender Tanya being at Coachella is not one and the same.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like they don't really go together.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
They don't respect. There's a lot of walking, a lot
of stress on the bod. Like I've actually never been
to Coachella sober. The idea of that makes me so
anxious because going drunk, Like when I was like drunk
and stuff, I was still scared of people around me
at points because like people would be like eating the
grass and like I just like always felt like I just.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
Like didn't know you want to why were you around that?

Speaker 6 (03:50):
I just it was just around me. There was just
there's like things. So I feel like going sober would
be even tenfold more freaky for me. Oh wow yeah, okay,
So it just didn't feel like my year to go.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I was fine with it.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay, fine with it.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Even though I was so happy with the lineup, I
was like, this year they crushed it. Sabrina, Justin, Carol,
g Headliners, Bang Bang Bang, no legacy acts, which I
never enjoy, like just top tier pop pop culture, pop culture, Okay,
And I was fine again missing it fine.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
I also decided this weekend I was gonna try my
social media to detox.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I saw you didn't last very long, possibly six hours.
I thought we discussed it. This was not the weekend
to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It was and you know what, that was my gut
instinct and I should have just leaned into that. I
got swept away with everybody just being like, come on,
if you can't do it this weekend, like when are
you going to do it? And I'll like, you know what, Yeah,
I have self control, I have discipline. I'm the most
disciplined person. I know.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Rot because I heard people talking about Sabrina set and
then I was just like right back into Instagram, back in.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's just a fun personally, love watching I love watching
people put together their outfits. I love watching the camping videos.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh my gosh, I love.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Watching the influencer houses. I love it all.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I watched this girl set up a camp and she
like set up like a closet and she had her
all of her clothes and bags so the dust wouldn't
get in there, she said, I was and I just
watched it all unfold. I was like, she's awesome, don't
know her.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, great content, just weird for you to log off?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Well, she was logged back on okay a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I ingested a lot of social media, more more than
usual this weekend. So the detox like a like a
like a what's it called opposite effect than me uh huh,
because I was like locked in on social media. Oh
my god. It was just talk talks, talks and jests
and jest and jess.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Are you going to try again?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah? When next weekend?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Why don't you do it during the week it's it does.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's actually a betterdea the Wednesday to
Thursday twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm just gonna start smaller.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
You must start small because what you did you tried
to start too big and then you went crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It was like someone it was like I was feeding.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
It was like, yeah, yes, Well, if you're using it
as like a simile.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well so I'm saying it was like a kid's not
being able to have candy, and then it's own.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
I think I think you just used it as an example.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Though.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is just me. I'm just trying to figure out
where I'm allowed to use it without it being.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
A It does feel weird not to use it in
that sentence.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, whatever. Anyways, it's like giving a kid saying you
can't have candy and then putting a bag of candy
in front of them. Yes, that's what you did.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yes, yeah, I just demolished the bag of candy.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay. So did you have fomo?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, mad Do you think it was because you were
on social media? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
No, I think I was.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
I didn't have phone well, not being at Coachella, because
I do think it was the right decision not to
be there for me that weekend. I had fomo over
the headliners like also like.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh, now I'm like my.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
I feel as though Justin Bieber isn't going on tour
anytime soon, and.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I feel as though this were a monumental headlinership and
as a believer, I wish I was there. And then
also having seen Sabrina set, I wish I had seen that.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Even though you've seen her multiple times on tour.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
This was a different level.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh really, I feeled you don't feel I didn't see
a single perform I saw clips, but I didn't watch
as I was in Mexico. I don't watch anything. I
just saw clips as I was scrolling.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Do you see Carol g Oh my gosh, she brought
it down. Sundays are always tough for me though, Yeah,
Like staying up till midnight on a Sunday is.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Just like tough, tough. So you consider yourself a believer, Yeah, oh, I.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Believe I've tried not nowhere coming out when I saw
that face.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So what was your take on Justin Bieber's performance, because
there's a lot of divisive it's.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
A divisive performance.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, I just want to preface this with Mark hates
Justin Bieber.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, I've never liked him. I don't think he's a
nice person. I don't think I think he's I don't
like him. I've never liked him.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Do you like his music?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh wow, it's like it's giving hater right.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
By the way, that's the way you should stop using.
You said giving fifty times walked in this morning, and
I like it. I do like giving.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Thank you you're taking. Okay, here's my take on it. Okay,
he comes out and he does just songs from Swag
one Swag two, which I just for the record, are
songs that he owns. He sold his catalog justin Bieber.

(09:07):
What's so funny because you've put.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
This in the group chat and we debunked this to
tell you.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
What Gronk said, and gron Gronk knows what's up. Okay,
it's like an AI guy.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
By the way, that's that's that's the elon musks. You
don't want to be on that one is No, I
would stay away from Gronk.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Somebody sent me this and so I screenshoted it.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
But it basically says after selling his publishing performance rights to.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Hip Hypnosis, Okay.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Okay, uh, they get the royalties whenever those old songs
are publicly publicly performed. Okay, so playing the original YouTube
recordings and singing along isn't a lot A new live
rendition so legally sidesteps needing direct clearance or sync licensing
from the owners for a fresh arrangement performance of the composition,
and it also them from profiting off of his performance.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
His old label.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I questioned all of that.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Oh, Alfred Breath's Music also said that, and I trust
Alfred Breathe's music whatever.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I just know that any band can do any song
they want in a live setting.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yes, and nobody gets paid.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's false, That is not false.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I cannot time in here as I do not know
the rules and legalities of the music industry.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Okay, forget the legal lalay of it all.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Okay, the fact that he started on YouTube and was
performing with his younger self, and he was like treating
this performance obviously he's been justin has been very open
about struggling with like mental health and all that stuff,
and performing publicly has been a tough spot for him. Okay,

(10:52):
So I think this was his way. Again, I don't
know him, but I feel like this was his way
of treating it. Like these are my friends. We're all
in my living room and were just like hanging out
and like jamming to some like nostalgic justin Bieber.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
You're saying to get over the anxiety of performing. Yeah,
he treated it as if he was in his correct
living room.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Correct, that's a stretch.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
I can see how if you were there and you're
like drunk and wanting to like, you know, like I
heard people saying that, like some of the YouTube videos
were buffering and the wife I wasn't great. So I
could see if you were in the audience how you
could be a tad bit kind of like comumbra, Like
how is this a concert?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Can you even call it a concert?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, Look, I have lots of artists that I am
passionately fans of. I don't want to watch a single
one of them play YouTube videos and sing over the
top of their own voice.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
But absolutely or not, it's his artistic expression.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Lord, there's nothing this man could do in your eyes
that would be negative.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's not true.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
There are choices that he's made in like his day
to day endeavors that I think are not the best choices.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
That was one of the month. Saturday night, I don't
think so.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
I think it was an artistic expression, and I think
and people are like comparing it to Sabrina's and I'm like,
Sabrina and Justin are not even in the same They're
they're their artistic expressions are completely different. She's a pop star,
she's a showman.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
She loves creating me.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's how he got famous, was being a pop star.
I know.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
But people are allowed to evolve, totally allowed to evolve.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think what I saw was the comparison of women
versus men in the effort that a woman has to
put on like a full put on a full production
and show just.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
But not all women do that. Not all women are
serbraina carpenter. There are other there are other women performers. Yeah, well,
I don't know how many on the headliners headliners. Okay, no,
but that's just what you're comparing them to the headliners.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I'm saying, that's the discourse I've seen as Sabrina's show.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Being I know, but it's like it's like comparing a
diet coke to broccoli, do you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't think it's that far.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
It's here's a Coachella headlining set, to a Coachella headlining set.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
No, it's like comparing well, here's my here's my take
on it, having not even watched it, but just seeing
the discourse on it. Is when you love an artist,
you want to see that artist regardless. So if you're
a diehard Justin Bieber fan, you just want to see
him perform and you want to hear the songs that
you love and watch him enjoy doing it. And I
think the die hard fans were really content and happy

(13:25):
with the performance because they were just happy to see
him performing and singing live on a stage. I think
the people who love his music and love to dance
and love the dancing of it all and the performance
of it all and the production of it all, what
he's done in the past, we're hoping that he would
bring that back for a Coachella headlining set.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So I think both things can be true.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
That the yeah, But I also think, like seeing what
he did the Grammys, if you go to Coachelle expecting
him to do what he used to do, like, that's
on you.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
But I watched the Grammys and had a totally different
opinion on you, because I was hoping he would dance
and I wanted energy, and I was so excited that
he was going to perform, and so the stripped down version,
even though you were like, this is art and this
is performance and artistry, I was hoping for something different.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
And so what I'm saying is having seen that at
the Grammys, then you're going into Coachella expecting him to
sing and dance with backup dancers.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's on you.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't think one performance and negates all of the
tours he's done where he's done a full production.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Yeah, the performances that he did leading up to Coachella
also were very swag heavy, chilled, stripped down.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But again, I'm just saying, if the roses are red,
the roses are red.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's beautiful. I think it's one of those things. If
you love Justin Bieber and he goes on tour, that's
what you're probably gonna get because that's what he seems.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
But that's why I don't think he's gonna go on tour.
That's why I had FOMO, because I'm like, this is
this is the moment to see it.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know, who knows he's He was doing all these
private shows in La leading up to it, so maybe to.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Get him prepared to get his feet wet.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
If you will, what do you think you soon?

Speaker 8 (15:09):
I mean, that's my dream is to just be on
a giant stage just playing random YouTube videos of stuff
that's not even music, like, and I have kind of
done that on a certain scale. But if I saw like,
I don't know, I can't decide because it feels very

(15:29):
much like performance art. But then I think about the
Grammy's performance. I keep thinking about an interview I heard
with like one of the producers, and they're like, every
artist gets like ninety minutes, Like sorry, everyone gets ninety
minutes to perform or to rehearse, justin heally needed four minutes.
I was like, oh, man, like, at what point is
the performance art like being lazy? All that to say,

(15:53):
I thought the Coachella performance was interesting, and I'm.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
Sorry for him to play a YouTube clip of him
going off on the paparazzi and kind of like clowning
himself of just like this was an embarrassing moment for
the paparazzi where he's saying like, you know, don't don't
mess with me.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm clocking you. I'm standing on business. No, I'm the one.
And then going into singing the one doing the one
with DJ Kallin.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's our Okay, so you had fomo. He's doing it
again next Saturday night. Who knows what he's gonna climb
up on stage and stay out. Maybe he'll take a
nap on stage next week and you can be there.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
What if you sleep all day and then you go
see him.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's my it's my circadian rhythm. It's just not built
to stay up right now till eleven forty five, till
him start time? Like put him.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Honestly, I do feel like he should have been in
the middle of the day, like seeing that at noon
would be peak.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't think noon. I do think maybe a nine
nine dam.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, gets some matinee headliners for the millennials up.

Speaker 8 (16:53):
In here, Okay, cold Play at one pm?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I love that I did by myself going Man of
seven TM headliner would be the ideal.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Chef's kids gorgeous. We should I have an idea. But
let's take a quick break and come back. Oh we'll

(17:30):
go back.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, well, no one, I don't know. I have to
go back to the tape.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
What was your teaser?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
So Jamie Lee Curtis proposed this many years ago, and
me and Jamie Lee Curtis.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Same way, same way.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Jamie Lee she proposed this whole matinee, Like, why when
we go to concerts they don't come on till nine pm.
There's got to be more people out there in the
world that don't like staying up till eleven thirty at night.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Right, but want to enjoy live music?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right?

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Why don't we have bands have and they could even
charge like they could. Let's say they here, We're here
in La we go to the Kia Forum. Sabrina Carpenter
is touring. She does a three pm concert and an
eight pm concert. They clear up the venue in between
her for.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Senior citizens at three o'clock. That is nice.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, three o'clock's a bit early for me personally.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Would you rather three or would you rather come on
at nine.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Seven or eight? I would even I would be happy
with eight.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Jamie the Curtis is sixty seven years old. That's seven.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
No so bad?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, So what do you guys think?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, I don't think it's up to us, but I
love it. I would love if the headliner of Coachella
was even nine.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Eleven, eleven forty is like tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Also, I don't know if people realize how you have
to walk and what Coachella is like boots on the ground.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's a yeah, it's a lot of walking.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
You have that tiny little outfit on, and if you
don't have the right shoes.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
On, you're screwed.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
You will not have fun.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And the amount of dust you and jest like that's
the whole other part of the reason I can't be.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Find food the lines to get a drinker along.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
No, I pack like nuts in my bag because I'm
like so scared that I'm not gonna make make the
lines for food, Like I'm so scared I'm gonna go hungry.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Nuts in the bag. It's really good.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
But yeah, all in all, and I will admit Carol
g I saw the least amount of her performance because
like Monday Sunday night, Yeah, got up and you know,
hit the town. Whereas Sabrina, I really just ingested her performance.
Amazing performance.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
She's a star.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
She just takes the task at hand, rabs it by
the balls and says, let's go.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Her team's amazing too.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
The dancing dogs basically like the men, you know, man's
best friend dogs, but like, really, it's the man child, right.
All the symbol is being brought up singing tears with
like the water fountain exploding everywhere.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, you loved it art you felt you really missed
out on seeing that even though you saw her her
multiple times.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yes, I did feel like I missed out.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, okay, well what do you do this weekend? It's
aside from ingesting the social media that.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
You were, well, I feel like you had a much bet.
I had zero.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Fomo, I told Tanya. She asked if I had fomo,
and I said.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
It was I love the idea, the concept of going
with your girlfriends and getting ready in a house, laying
at the pool all day, and then getting ready for
the night and going to the show. But really, the
last time I went to Coachella, I remember saying I
don't know that I'll come back because it was so
taxing my body and just mental draining.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't know you, And like the uber situation as
a whole, it's.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Gotten so much worse since the last time I went
was twenty seventeen or sixteen, so I haven't been in forever,
and it's gotten so much more. The influencer stuff has
gotten heavier. Yeah, the uber rides have gotten more expensive
and harder to get.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Harder to get, like people were walking five miles just
to get to their uber.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, so I didn't really have any fomo of not
being at the show. And then unless you have an
artist passed or you're you wait at the barricade for hours,
you're pretty far away from the artist performance.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, but I will say the screens do make it
feel like I've what intimately, I remember seeing Beyonce and
I was way far back and I felt like I
was right in it.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
That wasn't incredible U teleperformance, but amazing. I also saw
it was so crowded. I don't you know how in
the past.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
The one time I went, there was a lot of
space in the grass that you could frawl like and
run around and dance, which I think is fun because
it's live music and you're able to just be with
the people you love and dance around and have space.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
But from what I saw the crowd, it looked as
though there was not space to frolic or move. So
that would have had me very stressed out, and I
wouldn't have wanted to be in there with people because
I wouldn't consider it. I love Justin Bieber's music. I
listened to it on the way here.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Am I love his music, but I wouldn't consider myself
a believer to where i'd feel like I earned a
spot being at the front.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I wouldn't want to be at the front.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well me neither, But I'm saying I won't even try
because I don't. I feel someone else deserves that role.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
But I feel like if I had to go to
the bathroom, I would have a mental breakdown if I
was in the front of my crowd.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
All right, so we're coming back live. Sorry for that interruption.
We had to move studios. But if there's nothing where
we are not is on the fly.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Willing to adapt, adapt, malleable gals wherever whatever?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, if not us?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Who really?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You were talking about your weekend? You were saying like
you didn't have from.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I didn't give them from. Yeah, I didn't. But did
you see that Kendall Jenner and Jacob Alordi ALERTI Ali Alardie.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
We're spotted making out at Justin Bieber's party, And what
do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm obsessed with it?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
You love it?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, everybody's like good for her, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Good for him, good for him?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah? Wow, Yeah, Kendall Jenner is like hot.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I also feel like I mean, they're both hot, but
I feel so both of those people and those parties.
A makeout isn't a makeout is just a makeout when you're.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
A there's no makeout that's just a makeout.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
When you're a Coachella makeout can just be a dring.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, in visible string, not kidding.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But it could be a string that gets cut quickly
after Coachella.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh you think there's just going to be nothing there?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I just don't think there's enough. There's not enough for
me to feel as though there's a conversation to be had.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Okay, do you want to keep talking about your beautiful
weekend in Cabo or n Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
We kind a wonderful wee a week in Cabo. We
left on Wednesday and got back last night, and we
had the best trip. It was just restorative and relaxing,
and we both just she Haley's been working NonStop, so
it was mostly it was a trip for her birthday,
kind of a celebration for her continuation of her birthday,

(24:52):
but I also wanted her to just have a brief
time to relax before things go really crazy because the
movie's coming out in June, and it's just there's a
lot going on in full steam Ahead, full steam Ahead.
So I just wanted her to have a relaxing week
and we had the best time. We went to the
Montage and Cabo is our first time. But Haley really

(25:13):
wanted I don't know if people know this, but in
Cabo there's not a lot of swimmable beaches.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, because the water's really rough and.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
It'll pummel you right down in there, and yeah, youllow
you up out there.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I've seen scary stories.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
So she wanted to go and swim in the ocean,
and so I researched where can you swim in the
ocean and Cabo and there were two places, and it
was either chilene O Bay, which we love, but they
were booked, or the Montage. So we went there for
the first time and it was luxury. We had the
best time. We swim in the ocean every day. I
bought a float. We bought floats so we could really

(25:49):
just be out there.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
And float in the oce Wow, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
We snorkeled, we toured there as a potential wedding venue.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's beautiful. Yeah, yeah, I love her. Y'all got married.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
I know it was perfect. I mean we ended up
with like the perfect spot. But we did tour a
lot of places in Cabo.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, Callbo was beautiful and so easy to get to,
that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, it's a quick jaunt and it's like a totally
different vibe, very different vibe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But we had a great time. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
And no fomo for you.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's zero mobo. I'm never but you know, I don't know.
Maybe it would have been different if I had been
in La Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, look like I had a nice weekend. It
was Sophia's birthday, so we just did like birthday stuff.
We did a birthday workout, we went to lunch, we
went to Chateau marmal Oh. But every time so I've
actually never been there aside from like industry parties that
they've had there, and I've never been there during the day.
It's so gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah, and every time I go, every time I go there,
I've gone there once. I thought about you and Haley,
because that's where you had your first date.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know it was our first date,
but was our first date where I left being like
whoa what is this?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (27:00):
And then we had dinner for her birthday that night,
and then on Saturday we went and saw the new
Mario Brothers movie.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Wh How was that? So?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I liked the first one, the second one fell short,
fell a little short for me, but it's crushing at
the box office, so good good for them.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Your review won't affect them.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I just like to keep it real on here.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
If we're not we're art, we're critiques.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Yeah here, and we if we're not keeping it real,
who is, Like, let's be honest. And then Sunday, uh
we I did another little thing with Sophia.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
For her birthday, so it was like chill.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
I slept a lot, took care of myself, and ingested
a ton of social media.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's beautiful. Yeah, did you watch the Artemis to land It?
Oh my gosh, we watched the landing. We watched it
live from Cobbo. You did. It was such a huge deal.
I know.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
That was when I was actually not on social media.
That was like my six hour window.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Oh wow, wow, Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I'm so happy
they made it by safely because I was.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I was a little concerned.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I did see that they were like they land
in the water, and I was like, how do they
get out of that?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Well?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
It feels dangerous.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, I think the whole thing was pretty dangerous. So
I think that was probably the least of their worries.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Do you know what else I saw on social media
this weekend? I watched a lot of alex Earl videos
and I saw the video where she detailed that date.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
She went on, that first date she went on did
you see that?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
But then people her saying, how are y'all not understanding
that this is probably leading to her promoting something?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
And I thought, am I she promoting I don't know someone?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Someone said maybe a dating app or or I thought.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like, there's surely no way that she's just spilling out.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
No way alex Earl went on a date with someone
that was that bad and unplanned.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
So there was somebody that commented on a video that
said he saw them in Starbucks, because remember she said
that they went.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
To Starbucks to get him a croissant.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, somebody saw them.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
She saw him Alex Earl at the Starbucks and then
he was like, I don't really know athletes.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So people are saying it's Devin Booker.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh, but people are saying it was definitely an athlete.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's what this guy, this alleged eyewitness, was saying it
was an athlete because he was really tall.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
So, for those who didn't see her video, basically she's
telling a story time about how she went on a
date and this guy picked her up and he had
all he had planned was a dinner reservation at no.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thirty and he picked her up at what thirty three?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Okay, picked herup at three.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
He realized he was starving, so they went to Starbucks
and got it so he could get a chocolate croissant,
and then they basically drove for hours and they realized
they were hungry. Earlier they tried to go to the
restaurant and they said they couldn't take them earlier. So
it's sounded like my worst nightmare and a date because
going on a first date with someone that you don't

(30:06):
know and then being stuck in a car with him
and having to come up with conversation, especially with someone
who's not a good conversationalist, because sometimes I can be
a question master where I just try to fill the
silence and keep asking questions and then overshare.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And then I go, why did I even talk about that?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
But I realized I was trying to fill the silence
because you're talking to someone who doesn't reciprocate questions, right,
And it sounded like that's what happened.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
If somebody tried to pick me up at three pm
for a seven thirty dinner, I'd be like, no chance
in hell, no.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Jens in hell.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
And to be honest, I feel like committing to a
dinner on a first date is also very aggressive, Like
I would never do that unless it was somebody that
I knew I can do something on a dating app.
There's no way in hell I'm going to dinner with them.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Getting a drink?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (30:56):
One drink, that's the way. If it's awful, you're out.
There's no plan for sit through a meal with someone that.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Does to a dinner, because at the very least, you
what you would hope you get a free dinner.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
However, I would rather pay nine ninety nine for a
full meal at in and Out than sit through an
awkward hour in a car with yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, it's not good, but the car ride alone made
me feel I thought about it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I thought about it all day.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Wait, I thought about it too. I thought about it
more than I would like to admit. But now that
you're saying it's like a PR stunt and she's coming
out with something.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I don't know if it is, that's just what I
don't think it would because she just.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Launched Real Actives, Yeah, which is a skincare brand. So
why would you be launching something.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Message me on Instagram and they're sending me product. I
was so excited, excited to try it.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I don't know, she's a maybe messaged me on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Maybe they have something that up their sleeve.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
And my thought was, if The Bachelor hadn't totally just
done what they do with the Taylor Frankie Paul stuff,
Alex Earl would be an amazing season of The Bachelor.
I think she's kind of above it personally. But on
the news of Alex Earle this morning, what I.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
Woke up to.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Sharking a shocking video from Alex Cooper tagging Flex versus
Lex les versus Lex tagging her, and the caption was
just Alex Earl's tag, So for those who don't know
the Lix and lex Lore.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Basically, Alex Earl was signed to the Unwell Networks Cooper
and Earl.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
That might make it easier and lex I know, but
for the storytelling of it all, Earle was signed to
Cooper's Unwell Network to have a podcast on there. At
this point, Alex Earl is already quite famous, yes, quite
And what the Unwell Network has done is they signed
a lot of people who are not super popular yet

(33:01):
and it kind of is to build their their presence
online and their name or whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Alex Air already had a name.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah. I remember kind of being like, why is Alex
Earle signing to Unwell and not just launching her own
podcaster series.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
But anyways, it didn't last long.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
It's not easy and I feel like when you launch
a podcast and you're kind of on your own, you
need to really have some gusto at least I feel
like going in the Unwell umbrella.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
But Unwell was brand new Alex the Verse one, yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
Still Alex Cooper in and of herself with Call Her Daddy,
You've got a big backing, Like I don't know, I
saw the appeal and why she went there totally.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
And I also see the appeal if Alex Earle didn't
recognize how big she already was, if she loved Alex Cooper,
it's giving I need her, yeah to break me, like
break my celebrity stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah. So anyways, it didn't last long and then all
of a sudden, Alex Earle the parts unwell and it
seems as though there's no one talks about anything. But
it seems as though there's drama beef, but no one
talks about it for a long time until Alex Earle repost.
This woman kind of bashing Alex Cooper, right, uh huh.

(34:22):
This woman says that Alex Cooper is an what you
call her ambulance chaser or something. Basically, if someone goes
through heartbreak or trauma, she's not here, which to me,
that's what you want to do as a podcast. I mean,
I envy Alex Cooper that she always gets to.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Break hot off the press, like you get people a
month later after this, years.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Later, years later off of a reality show.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Because we're the opposite of an ambulance chaser.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
We're like, we're like, we're at the beach, we're walking, Yeah,
we're camping.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Van at the beach that has no on anything. But anyways, so.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
There's I have mixed feelings about that because as an empathetic,
compassionate person, doesn't feel harsh to capitalize on someone's grief
and trauma.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Sure, but also.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
People have free will to go on a podcast like
she can chase them down and they can say no,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, everyone has free will.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
So anyways, Alex Earl reposts this woman talking about Alex Cooper.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
That's the first thing we've really seen that I've seen
of Alex Curle, Alex curl the Alex Earle even addressing
the situation. Yeah, and then Alex Cooper posts a video
this morning basically saying, hey, there's no NDA.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, I'm tired of passive aggressive reposts and common.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
But also didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, Like, why didn't Alex Cooper just say what happened
and then just put an end to it? Right, this
is what happened, period.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
So now we wait and see Abolex Earle response, which
is all.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Just it's like a tennis match, news for anyone.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
A news for the unemployed. Everyone's like, what is the
one point? Why did I just listen to five minutes
of this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
It is interesting, though, because I.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
It makes me sad that these that these smart, intelligent
business women were in the spotlight do have such a
public beef and that there's just no from either of
them that doesn't seem like they want to squash.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
It and make peace.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, I don't know who said I'm on.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I don't think it's a sun. I think it's maybe
it was a business decision that went wrong and feelings
got involved, and I don't think it's that. I don't
It doesn't that it's I don't know what happened, obviously,
but it doesn't seem like it's that deep, as more
of it was just a business decision gone wrong.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
I just feel like there's something to be said about
the fact that, like, what's the girl who was doing
call her daddy, Sophia her old co host. There's a
lot of beef there, and now the beef with Alex Earle,
like it's not giving modern woman energy.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I mean, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
The thing about the Internet is that you hear one
side and you go, oh, I'm on her side, and
then you hear the next side and you go, I'm oh, wait,
maybe I'm on her side, and that's just unfortunately what
the Internet is.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
But also, two things can be true.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Two things can be true. Everyone has their truth.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
So, Hailey, this morning just found out about Robby's sleeping situation,
and it was truly a beautiful start to my morning.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
First of all, it made me realize Haley does not
listen to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, listening to our podcast.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Honestly, I'm glad she doesn't listen. It's for the best.
Gives me freedom.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
You know, you can talk a lot of crap on
her on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
No, you you don't talk crap about your partner ever,
That's just you don't do that.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
No, But.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
In general, So, Robbie sent a photo of him working
out and he was wearing Haley's tour shirt from Panorama
to and and then I responded and said, he said
he cut it because it was a little too long,
and I said.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yep, poo Bear likes a cropped shirt always because of
his It was a good one. It was a good one.
But then Haley goes, what does this mean? And I
had to break the news to her about how Robbie sleeps,
and she goes, why did you tell me that I
don't want to visualize that. I didn't need to know that,

(39:02):
And I go, well, we have talked about this on
the podcast, So thanks for admitting that you don't pay
attention to you need to be on the side. Yeah
on our social media, thanks.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
For engaging with the double taps.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
What is Crystal doing if not for Haley and Bobby
to see?

Speaker 7 (39:21):
Hailey, Crystal's edits are work of a work of art
every time they are She should be at by Coachella
every time, just on stage is editing, yeah, and posting.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Her finished products. Yeah, honestly, so that would.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Get a laugh.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Huh, They would get a laugh.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
They would get a big laugh from the crowd.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
So that was news for this morning as well as
Alex Cooper Alex eerldromas that Haley found out about Robbie's
sleeping situation.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But she didn't say she's gonna RaSE it from her memory.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
She didn't say I need Robbie goes, I hate that
Haley knows this, and she goes, don't worry, I am
erasing it from my memory.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But she said me calling it who bear Winny of
the Foo made it ten times worse. So I didn't
help the situation.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I did him so dirty by sharing that publicly?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Actually does it? I did not.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, I'm gonna blame you on that one, wasn't it Mark?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Who said you are?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Mark? I'm gonna I'm just not gonna falld the sword
for that.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Well, someone told one of us, which is not from
you know, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
He's embraced it and he's really come on the other side,
which I respect about him.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, I think that's
really all for today.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Did you have anything else? It has been chaotic.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I don't so chaotic. I'm stressed. My cortisol level is
up before we go.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Do you think it's rude that if you call and
then someone sends a text back, like if they don't
answer and then they send a text.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Now I do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh, I'm shocked to hear this from you.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
If I'm recording, I can't pick up my phones, I'll say, hey,
I'm like at work, call you I can, or like, what.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you need?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Well, so what if you're not at work?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Though I didn't do it. If I'm not at work,
I just do want to.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Do you think it's rude of someone like if you
call me and what if you're.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Like engaging in a conversation, You're not gonna like you've.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Grown so this would not have been your answer a
few years ago.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Really, Yeah, I'm nothing if not out of you student.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I'm really proud of your boundaries you've worked on.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh you think I would just like answer the phone
even if I was having a conversation with you.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I think you would think it was rude if I
didn't answer your call and then.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Texted me a text. Yeah, I'd probably pissed about that.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Okay, that's what I thought. I was like, she's not
getting something.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
If I called you, you didn't answer, you said, hey,
can't talk right now, I'd be pissed. Okay, yeah, but
if you're doing I like, what is she doing that
she can't answer my call right now?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Probably nothing, You just don't want to talk on the phone.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
But I rude.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
But I feel like people should have boundaries to choose
if they want to have a conversation on the phone,
if it could just simply be a text, well what if.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
It's not a text, I need to have a conversation
to you.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
That's on you to decide.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
On my behalf.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
No, but sometimes you'll call with nothing to say, and
sometimes you do need to talk. So if I don't answer,
and then I text back and I say, hey, everything good,
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
And he said, can you call me? I need to talk.
I'm obviously going to call you right back, but if
you go, I was just calling to see what you
were wearing tonight, I'll text you about it. Totally bad,
I'll you text you about it.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
AnyWho aren't we leaving?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
We are leaving, but don't worry because we'll be back
on Thursday with the dear Vanya. Yes, we will stay tuned.
We love you so much.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Bye,
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