May 7, 2026 • 42 mins
One Tree Hill, Laguna Beach, The Traitors, TAYLOR SWIFT. Somehow, Stephen Colletti and James Lafferty’s web connects them all! Becca and Tanya hang out with two of our favorite guys from OTH and hear all about their new show Everyone is Doing Great!
Stephen spills what he really thought about Rob Rausch on the latest season of Traitors, and Tanya has a crucial admission to share with James that could make things awkward.
We hear about the OTH reboot and how Laguna Beach started as a “networking opportunity” but became a global sensation.
Plus, Becca has a Nathan/Haley question for James that he’s NEVER been asked before!
Everyone Is Doing Great Season 2 premieres May 11 on Netflix!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And two time People's Choice Award winning podcasts. Hello everybody,
we are scrubbing in.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
We have two very special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
No, like, I actually don't know what to say because
they're actual icons.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
They're so.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
They are perfect guests for our podcast and our listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It doesn't get more millennial than these two men, in
my opinion, because Stephen COLLETTI we all grew up, we
knew him from Laguna Beach, fell back in love with
him on Traders this season, I.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Say there was a big stint of One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Ye, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's how he met
our other guest, James Lafferty. They were on One Tree
Hill together and now they're doing a new show called
Everyone is Doing Great and it's gonna be on Netflix,
which is huge.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And Everyone is doing great because they're scrubbing in today.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Are you doing great?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Actually, it's really funny. So I got I was like,
I look like a little bit better than I usually do.
And Robbie goes, did you get dressed for your boyfriend today?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, because you had a big crush on Jave Leberty,
who played Nathan Scott.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, but to you, they were the same person.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, And I kind of feel like in that era
of our lives, like everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Was like, oh, Chad Michael Murray, Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Girly.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I don't know. I think it was pretty even more.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, I felt like I was an outlier that I
like Nathan Scott.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, no, no, I think it's a pretty fifty Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, dang, okay, okay, well please do the honors.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Two of the millennial gals biggest crushes are scrubbing in today.
Everyone welcomed James Leaperty and Stephen Kaletti.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Wow, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tanya is just she can't even believe that y'all are here,
to the point where she thinks someone.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Set up a fan of our podcast at this up
because she just can't believe it. How else could it happen?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I mean truly, I was like, somebody in their lives
listens to this podcast, we heard about you.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
We are currently shooting season three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
If everyone's doing great, and this is a bit and
maybe you guys are getting the wool pulled over your eyes.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Are you actually shooting?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Are you actually shooting season three right now, not yet,
we'll get there the can Yes, season two and coming
out on Male eleventh.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
If this hasn't aired already, No, this will air.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
This is going to air before.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Okay, yes, so momentarily, can we let's just jump right
into that because we will dive back into the past.
But since we're on the topic of current days and
what y'all are working on, can we jump into that?
Because first of all, y'all are best friends in real life?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
We try to tell people that you know, you put
the best pressure. We like to keep it CASU one
years and for best and we know each other for
nineteen we get there. Yeah, true, true, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Good friends.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, how did the concept for the show come about?
And then I want to talk about how y'all were
able to get it made and raise the money for
it because my fiance is and she just directed her
first feature film and watching her do the process of
getting it made and the money and all the things
that went along with it, it's a miracle that anything
(03:30):
gets made basically.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So, oh, I'm gonna let James take this, but I
will say that the very beginning he came over to
my house with a piece of paper that was folded
up in his pocket, and we had to catch up
chat because you know, we're best friends.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
We need to make sure everyone's okay. And then he brought.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Out the piece of paper and said, Hey, this is
what I'm thinking for the show, and I love him
to take it from there.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Wow. Thanks man. So everybody's just relaxed for the next
forty minutes. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, look, we yeah,
you know, like you just said, like, you know what
it's like. You've seen what it's like when somebody's trying
to pull their project together. I think equally as sort
of difficult and time consuming can be the process of
(04:11):
just like sort of writing a script or a pitch
and then taking it out to pitch it to people,
to ask for permission to make it, right, to ask
people for you know, studios or production companies to make it.
And we had an idea that was very very we
could shoot a pilot for it. We knew we could
shoot a pilot for it, a pilot episode for it
in like four days, right, and we only needed like
(04:34):
actors and our locations that we literally live in. And
we just kind of realized that we had the resources
to do this. We just needed to pull it together
as a production. We could shoot it for very very
cheap and we would have at least a pilot to
shop instead of a script, right, And so that's what
we did, and we ended up taking it out and
(04:55):
we weren't getting sort of the looks that we wanted.
We weren't getting the opportunities to make the show that
we wanted to make the entire season. So we decided
that we were going to crowdfund, and so we spent
a few months crowdfunding the thing, which was a whole
journey in its I mean, that was a whole production
in itself. And then it's thankfully, like the fans of
(05:17):
One Tree Hill, fans of Luna Beach, fans of like
Alex's show, the Royals and Caribas show H two O like,
they really showed up for us in a huge way
and got us that budget and we went straight into
shooting season one from there and from there it was,
you know, another year until we had i think licensed
(05:37):
the first season to Hulu. After that, it took us
about a year just to grow our souls and our
brain cells back. After that whole world journey we went on,
and then it was like, all right, let's do season two.
So we took it upon ourselves to make season two
because again, we wanted to make it how we wanted
to make it. We had a very specific vision for it,
and we felt like we had pulled that vision off
(05:58):
with season one. So we just didn't want any more
intervention from anyone, or any intervention from anyone. Yeah, so
we went ahead with season two, and then there was
this was like the whole the whole journey was like
sort of difficult, and there was hitches and bumps in
the road along the way. But I think the from
(06:19):
the from the time we finished season two editing it
and everything and locking the episodes to when we actually
we are now able to announce that it's coming out
on Netflix May eleventh, has been probably the most taxing
of it all, just because of the amount of time
it took and the industry contraction that was going on
right when we were going to market and all kinds
(06:40):
of stuff. But yeah, I mean this everything that I
just described to you, there has been seven year odyssey.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah. The first one came out in twenty twenty one, yeah,
now twenty six.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Yeah, so well, basically basically pacing with euphoria.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Right, yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Time, you know.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Yeah, So so that's the journey. I mean, where was
that taking me, Sar, I got lost myself.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, it's there's a lot we go over here. It's
it's as you were saying earlier, like the chance of
anything getting made in this industry doesn't matter who you are.
I mean, you could be Brad Pitt, or you can
be somebody just starting out. Like anything getting made is
its own little miracle. And James like to say sometimes
it's almost like if you stare at the mountain, say
all right, this is what you need to do to
actually get your show on air. A lot of folks
(07:27):
might not do it because it can't there's just a
lot of unknowns and it's a long long time. But
when you've got a community of folks and good friends
to work with, like thankfully we all kind of push
each other through it so you get.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's very beautifully shot. Like it looks expensive if we well, I.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Mean, premium content is what we're trying to create.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
And I think that was like what we set out
to do. We realized that, like you can do this
now and in the same way that I think probably
in like the seventies and the eighties, people realized, hey,
you can make like a feature film without a studio
and it can still go to theaters. People will go
watch it like it's a feature film that you know,
MGM made or something I've Back in twenty seventeen, we
felt like TV was like the technology and the access
(08:11):
to resources had reached the point to where you could
do that with television, right, you could do that with
a long season, and you know, we thought that's what
we pulled off with with season one. It just turns
out that like the model of independent television is so
new that it doesn't really it's it's had a difficult
(08:31):
time finding its place, like in the marketplace of TV
shows that are produced for studios by studios. But I
think now it's sort of the concept of sort of
catching up to the times a little bit, and we
might see it happening more like you might see more
people coming together to create a TV show that way
that they would have an indie movie.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I also feel like there's this, I mean, especially
with AI and stuff, there's this thing where everything kind
of feel like you've lost the creativity. So I feel
like y'all even though it's probably just a nightmare trying
to get it done and like having to figure out
how are we going to get the funds, how are
we gonna distribute it? It essentially was your idea and
(09:15):
your vision, right that came to life because y'all were
in control of it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
How I know it's loose it's loosely based on your lives,
which I understand now having seen it.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
How like, how much of it is based on your lives?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, you know, it's we obviously are are in a
world where we know very well, and we wanted to
on purpose. It's it's you know, talk about being on
a teen drama or having a lot of success when
you're younger and finding these guys years later and see
what they're going through. You know, we really wanted to
be able to, you know, come from a place of all, right,
we know this world well, and we've had a unique perspective.
(09:54):
We have a lot of stories that we've shared with
each other and had laughs up. You know, horror stories
of auditioning or being on set and just whatever. Being
in this crazy business, so we knew we wanted to
set there, but as far as like where our place
is in it, we like to say, if there was
a point where we just stopped maturing, you know, the
version of ourselves being being very young and they say,
you know, for folks that are very famous young, they
(10:16):
sometimes they stop maturing and you know they can struggle
a little bit as they get into their midlife. So
we were kind of playing with that a little bit. Thankfully,
you know, we're not these guys. You know, we would
they would not be able to make a TV show
and they have a lot that they need to figure
out and making a lot of poor decisions, and that's
what we wanted to do to it. I think Koree Behind,
one of our actresses, she put it best. She said,
(10:38):
it's almost like if you listen to the little devil
on your shoulder at all times, you know, and just
said yes to him, this is the result of your
life would be life.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Because this is the show.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's got a lot of absurd comedy, but it's still
there's some heart in there. You know, Like these guys,
it goes they're trying to you know, do their best
and trying to make their way, but they're really struggling
along the way, and it's because they've just having a
very late coming of age.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
So yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I feel like, to
what Kariba was saying, it's that's how I've always thought
about these characters. They're like the versions of ourselves that
we are the most terrified of, that we might have
seen like glimpses of in the past. And uh and
had to take a moment and look in the mirror
and be like, you know, okay, it's time to put
some pants on and put Red Dead Redemption on pause
(11:26):
and go outside.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, and actually I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, we can get into that later, but I feel
like coming off of what you you guys came off
of in your past is probably like I don't feel
like anybody can really relate to that, Like that's just like,
well so crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
I think in a way, that's what like kind of
drew us to the show was that we realized that.
And I think a lot of people on you know,
television shows that have been successful feel this way about
their experience. It's like an experience that like only you had,
And so even if you know you don't get along
(12:05):
now or you didn't get along in the past, there's
always like a familiarity there. You know each other on
a level that no one else will be able to understand.
So there is like this natural camaraderie that comes out
of that, and I feel like people recognize that, and
I feel like that's why the first question that people
(12:27):
ask us a lot of the times about our respective
shows or you know, One Tree Hill is is everybody
friends in real life? That's what everybody wants to know.
The first thing they want to know as everyone friends
in real life. And I think that's because they want
us to be friends in real life because the characters
were friends and they feel like, you know, they feel
(12:48):
like our friends as well, So it's like, you know,
I mean, that's That's one of the things that drew
us to this concept was was exploring that, Okay, what's
the actual answer to that question? Right? And for this
particular world, they absolutely are still friends, but they probably
have no business being friends, right, Like they probably shouldn't
(13:08):
be friends, they probably shouldn't be married to each other,
they probably shouldn't have relationships, but they are the only
ones that understand like where they're coming from, and how
confused they are about where they're going, and so they
lean on each other, you know, and it just creates
conflict and chaos, and that's where the humor comes from.
But I mean what you just said right there, really,
(13:28):
I think like speaks to the heart of the show,
and I think people can sort of they're interested in it,
but can also relate to it with other things they've
been through in their lives.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I was watching it with my husband and I've never
seen Entourage, so I couldn't I can't speak to this,
but he was like, the show gives me Entourage vibes,
and I was like, Oh, that's I'm gonna tell them that.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
That's a really good compliment.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's perfect. I mean, yeah, we feel
like we feel like we kind of set out to
be like the anti Entourage and that we're Entourage is
like aspirational, you know, like it's about like them succeeding
ours is about like how many times can you up
and fall before you like don't get up again, or
thinking about not getting up, or for a friend has
to help you out, you know. But you know, the
(14:08):
the yeah, I mean, like the camaraderie aspect of that show.
We can all agree it was like what it's so
famous for, Like it just captured friendship, and so that's
a huge compliment.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I want to throw it back to how both of
your lives in this world got started, because we know
y'all from a very a similar era and obviously y'all
were on the show together. But Steven, I want to
go back to Laguna Beach for you because I was
listening to your podcast with Tish Cyrus and I was
always wondering this reality. It was kind of in its
(14:58):
own world of reality TV. There wasn't the the casting
I guess, like you didn't go to a casting call,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Like they just kind of just showed.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Up at our high school for breaking lunch with a
table and some packets to fill out. It was purely random.
We are victims of circumstances, like yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So how how many people signed up?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
There are a lot of people, and it was mostly
a lot of the girls did and a lot of
guys were like playing it cool and doing the whole like,
you know, screw MTV.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Whatever happened music television? That's so lame. And I was like, yeah,
that's so late.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
When never and then sneaking in like I'm totally gonna
do this because I wanted to work in entertainment and
I wanted to host.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I had you know, that was middle school.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They had those superlatives where it's like most likely, and
one of them was most likely to be a VJ.
And I was like, even though there's no one was
going to vote for me, I just thought I was
sitting at home like that would be so cool if
they voted for me. And of course they did not,
but it's just where my mind was at. And so yeah,
that's why. And your senior year, so I happened to
And that's the other thing. If it was sophomore junior year,
I probably wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have had
(16:02):
the balls to do it. But uh, second semester senior year,
you're you're ready to get out of there. Yeah, so
I was like, let's let's go for it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But nobody knew that it was going to be like
it was. It was like a phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It was honestly, we just expected to be like a
little documentary one hour, you know. It was to me,
it was all about just you know, meeting it was
connecting and networking and and maybe MTV was going to
pay for a couple of events like a dinner or a.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Trip, and that was going to be it, you know.
So yeah, we really.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Had no idea about how far it was going to
actually go. And they do multiple seasons.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So you knew you wanted to be in the industry
in some capacity, and you were like, this could be
my way in at a dinner.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I remember when I was walking up to pick up
a packet from the producer. You know, I was like,
all right, let's find out if this guy works for
an MTV or if he just somebody's hired for the day.
You know, It's like do I need to know this
person or not. I was just kind of thinking that
way from the jump.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So when when it blew up, how did your friends
that thought it was the lame from the get go?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
How did everyone respond?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I mean I got a lot of grief because they
focused a lot which we also didn't necessarily know on.
You know, Yeah, this these like love traying love was
very much you know, played up for the show, and
so it was you know, it was a shock and
and yeah, it was definitely a lot of ribbing from
my friends, like rightfully, so I deserved it, but yeah,
(17:24):
I just took it all and stride and just was
in denial for a while.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I think was was anybody? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I was like, no one's really watched this is James's chance?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Did anyone that was giving it grief to begin with
end up coming around and being like, hey, get me
on the show.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
The amount of dudes who were like it's so lame.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And then we were shooting season two and it was like, hey,
the cameras are going to be there, and they're like,
I don't care, Yeah, I'll be The amount of people
we went back after that my first semester of college
and we were starting to shoot season two and there
was a little like coming home parties, and suddenly a
lot of friends were down yeah there, like I want
to go show up on camera and they're doing little
(18:01):
stunts trying to like get a moment.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
It was funny to see that.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
How much time between Laguna Beach and then when you
came on a one tree hill.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
So let's see here.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I stopped shooting my part in Lagoon and probably the
end of two thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh wow, I love I love timestamps like this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, actually sorry ended two thousand and five because it
was after my first year of college.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
I finished in the spring.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I was done shooting lagun and by the end of
two thousand and five, and then yeah, I just I
was hosting, of course for MTV, doing TRL, and I
kind of noticed then I was like, look, I've been
taking some acting classes. That was more interesting to me
and I wanted to pursue that. It was about a
year and a half later that about two thousand and
(18:45):
seven is when I got on one trail. Yeah, it took.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It took a little while there.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
There was an audition and went well, but then like
this isn't the role for you, but maybe maybe we'll
have you back. And I remember, you know, seeing James
and everyone else on the show and going like it's
actually somebody came on to TRL when I was hosting,
and I was like.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
That would be a really cool show to work on.
I'd love to work on that show.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Actually, I did a movie with Hillary Burton too, and
she was talking about being in Wilmington where they shot
the show.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I was like, man, they got a good life down there.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Do you remember what the first role you auditioned for
was I don't think.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't and I don't know if it was dummy
sides like it was just something that they had, yeah,
just to see if I can actually act.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Or what that would be interesting to find that out on.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I feel like TV then is so different than TV
is now. Like I guess there are still some of
those shows and movies that have that like cult like following,
but I feel like not like they did back then.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, also without social media, Like I think that's the
testament of that time, was that it was just successful
because it was successful and people loved it. It didn't
really have the push of TikTok and Instagram. It was
just because people were fans of the show and they
got their weekly episode and went crazy trying to get more,
and so everything I'm sure felt even bigger for y'all
(20:04):
because I watched you know, you watch social media now
and there's not really that element of mystery around it
because we know everything. And then there's spoilers everywhere whereas
you used to go. I remember hunting for spoilers for
One Tree Hill, like what's gonna happen next?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Like the scenes from the net for the next episode that.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Was such all those you can't miss those.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's wild. I mean I feel
like that's one thing that we were talking about when
we were formulating the idea for everyone who's doing great,
it was like what show were they going to be on?
Because when in twenty seventeen, when we first were thinking
this up, we were like, we need a show that's
like really big, like like we know, One Tree Hill
(20:47):
was like kind of you know, it is what it is,
but like it's got to be like Vampire Diaries or something.
It's got to be like huge.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I was getting like Twilight vibes, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Something like that. There was also like the physical comedy
of like being able to do flashbacks of the I'm
like in their vampire makeup, like talking about what their
launch order is, you know. But also it was just like,
you know, it's got to be something that was like
this cultural sort of sensation that they really can't get
away from.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
But something's happened in the last like between twenty seventeen
and even now where like the popularity of One Tree
Hill has I think grown probably exponentially, and it's been
doing this since we finished shooting the show. Like around
the time we finished shooting the show, I think Netflix
was just starting as like a streamer and One Tree
(21:33):
Hill was on it, and so we filmed One Tree
Hill and it was always like okay, yeah, it was
obviously enough people like it to keep us coming back, right,
But then we finished shooting, the show comes out on Netflix,
and we see each other again like a year later,
and it's like, are you getting recognized all the time everywhere?
(21:54):
It's like, yeah, what's going on? We just had no idea,
you know. Obviously it comes into focus over then few
years that it's because of streaming, and it's just I mean,
it is far more popular now than it was back then.
I mean, like I'm telling you, I mean I don't
know if you disagree, but like I there was not
any sort of i think broad recognition of it. I
(22:16):
think for like every one of our fans, there was
probably like five or six fans of you know, any
other show, any other team drama you can name that
was that was out there, that went for multiple seasons.
It was just a very very like passionate crowd. It
was a very passionate audience and and they like they
really showed up for us, So I think they had
(22:37):
like an outsized like impact in terms of like voice
on forums and things like that, and they showed up
to events that we went to. But in terms of
like its broad appeal, yeah, one hundred percent is IS
is far more successful than it was when we were
actually shooting the show.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
That's amazing. Do y'all get residuals from that?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Uh supposed to? Well, we pay our sag dues for that.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, the streaming residuals look different than oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I mean the show. The show is definitely old
enough to where we had like a traditional syndication deal
on soap network after like we were in our fourth season,
so you know that was cool. But yeah, that that's
that doesn't happen really anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So, Yeah, did you ever have moments because you your
Nathan and Haley had such a have such an extreme
fan base of people who shipped them, did you ever
have as an actor, did you ever wish there was
more conflict there and that you got to explore other
things or did you like the consistency of them always
(23:41):
being an ending up together?
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Oh yeah, no, that's actually a really good question and
I don't think anybody's ever asked me that question, but
one hundred percent I would read the scripts, and I'm
sure Joy feels the same way we probably talked about it.
Like I remember reading the scripts and being like, oh, man,
really like disagree about anything anymore? You know, like after
a while it really became and look, it's great, Like
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I love that they were like rock solid.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, you were steady Eddie for all of us watching.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
I think that's really really cool. I but yeah, I
think that there was a bit of like fatigue in
terms of like seeing sort of the same scene play
out over and over again, because there's only so many
different versions of like that I think you can do.
But obviously, storytelling television it's all about conflict, right, It's
like the most interesting when there's some friction y and uh.
(24:33):
And it just felt extremely like friction lists for a
while towards the end. But you know, obviously that was
not like a huge issue or anything like that. I
just I remember the feeling of reading the script and
being like.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh, here we go again.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
We could have disagreed.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's so funny that it's so funny that you say that, though,
because so I like you when I was watching, like
you were like my boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Like I was, like, I always thought it was controversial.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But it is a big deal for her, a big deal.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I got ready. My husband's like, are you ready for
your boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But but because I think, like maybe subconsciously, I didn't
like Lucas. I was like a Nathan Scott person. And
I feel like I married a steady Eddie. I feel
like you subconsciously, like I wanted that from like seeing that,
I mean you shap.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
No, yeah, shifting in his seat.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
I'm wearing so much makeup. No, you can't see. No,
I get it though, you know, like I watched The Office,
like I love the Office, and and you know, Jim
and Pam. You know, I think it's it's it's it's
an amazing I know that feeling and and and I
know that that's why we love TV and we love
these characters. And so yeah, I mean, obviously I'm I
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wasn't the writer on the show. I had no say
in any of that, and I didn't want any say
in any of that. They obviously knew what they were
doing because look what it did, you know. So it's
like my preference there as like an actor. There's a
reason they don't let actors write scripts most of the time.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
I think, now you're doing both.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly, you know, that's like a line
that we have to walk, you know, and we want
to go for multiple seasons. We want to be doing
this for a while. Like we want the show to
evolve with like life and the things that we learn
personally in life, and it's designed to do that. And
so I think that like a question like that is
something that we are going to have to and we are,
(26:36):
we are already facing. It's like, all right, how much
getting along is too much getting along? Right? And like
and also how much disagreeting is too much disagreeing?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So yeah, how much chaos is too much chaos?
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I can ask you a silly like in the Weeds
thing about so you guys, you direct, you act, you're
like kind of everything for this show. Since you're not
on Netflix, does that change anything? Do they have a
say or is it still you guys?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
It's still it's still us.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So we're still an independent show because we licensed the
show to them, so they are not taking ownership. We're
not like a Netflix original.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Got It? Got It? So you still get to have
your voice, your vision.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, I mean, we'd love to partner with Netflix and
Sony who actually is the one that got us into
Netflix there, they've been a great partner for us. We
want to have a partner where we can get a
little bit of a stronger budget so we could have
a little less stress and and and take off some
of the hats and spread the love around. But that's why,
and we're happy to do it, like we we enjoy
(27:33):
doing this because we get to make the show we want.
But a part of doing a lot of these roles
is so that we can keep our budget down and
spend more money on what's going on screen. So yeah,
but we're hoping, you know, season two goes well and
and and more people can talk about the show and
say that they enjoy it and tag those those big
(27:53):
partners like Netflix gives us a good chance to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I could do that, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
When you started Wontree Hill, were you one of the
I don't have memories of people someone going from reality
TV to a networks like one of the first.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think there's there's been some folks that have done it.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I think maybe because Laguna was kind of a first
of its kind type reality show, the fact that we
were complete randoms and and.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yeah, it's and so we kind of got to start there.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
But there are people that have you know, the lines
have been blurred from from hosting into acting of course,
and that's similar.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So yeah, I don't think I was the first.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Can we shift a gear really fast? Just because I'm
also a huge Traders fan? Yeah, and you were on
this last season. I need to know how did you
not know Rob was a trader? Like I need to
know from somebody on the inside, how did you not
see it?
Speaker 7 (28:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, I didn't know Rob going into it, so I
knew nothing about him. And from the jump he played
very quiet, and it was almost like he was like
somebody signed this, signed me up to be here, and
I was just like, I'm down.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I just didn't know anything.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So we kind of all came to our own conclusions
about you know, Rob was He's like, I'm a little
socially awkward to get, yeah, you know, quiet in groups,
and so from there it was like, all right, it
would be tough to see this guy wanting to be
a trader if he was already stepping outside of his
comfort zone to be on the show, because I could
relate to that coming into the show, I was stepping
outside my comfort zone. I wanted to play it safe
(29:27):
and be a faithful I pushed, I put that forward
from the jump.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
So yeah, and he was.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
We're an excellent faithful.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I feel Rob was also a really good faith He
was Yeah, and he had a lot of folks wrapped
around his finger and no one was looking. And it
wasn't until tera Actually Lipinski was telling me that. She
was like, it wasn't until we got you out and
we messed that up that Johnny and I really put
our heads together and said, oh wait a minute, it's
been right under our.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Nose this whole time.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Because also the way that Candice sold her throwaway vote
to Rob, it was she really It just looked like
she was trying to save Lisa and protect her traders,
so it's not like she was deflecting to another trader.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
That that was when I lost it. I was like,
how is no?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
We didn't know the behind the scenes fighting that was
going on there, and so it's it was, Yeah, nobody
was was onto him at at all. And you know
what I will say, because he put forth, it's like
very you know, socially awkward, kind of casual front. When
he was getting on the show and I got off it,
and I took like one look at his Instagram and
there's a lot of like the snakes, there's a lot
(30:30):
more personality. He's shirtless, he's very comfortable, and I'm like,
wait a minute, that's a different dude. Yeah, So give
him a lot of credit. He played that character very
well and he absolutely crushed it. So and as a viewer,
I mean the end, the ending moment between him and
Maura is devastating. That is, and that's the thing where
you know everyone has feelings for that very specific moment,
(30:53):
and and you know what you feel for Maura and
you feel for Rob. It's yeah, they do an incredible
job on that show and those two killed it. So
credit to them.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
One, she got a burken back. I know she.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Was a victor and all of it. I told her
right away. She was so embarrassed. After we were doing
the reunion, we just watched the episode. She's like, oh
my god, I'm an idiot. I was like, we are
all idiots. Yeah, and you're not. You've You've come out
just fine.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
That was a saving grace. Is I feel like everyone
that this season like we're idiots. So like I'm like,
I can't blame her.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean, I think I said it was like we
I said on the way out, as I said, you
blew it, I should have said, I blew it, you're
blowing it. But we deserved nothing as faithfuls.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
How long because obviously I'm so competitive, so I when
you were like so upset and angry like you blew it.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I've related so much that because even though I know
it's a game and a.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
TV show, I feel so betrayed in that moment. It
would take me a second to face those people again.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, I mean, because you're so in the game when
you're there and the phones are taken away from you,
so that's your life while you're there, Right, You're really
locked into this game, and even though it is a game,
you know, you you don't have to take it too seriously.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
At the end of the day, we're all here just
to have some fun.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But I'm a competitive person, so you know, in that moment,
you're you're you know, that competitive spirit's coming out, and
I'm I'm taking the l on the forehead and I'm like,
you know what, I can I honestly have myself to
blame through it as well. I I made some decisions
that ultimately cost me. So yeah, and I never knew
it was Rob.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I know, like you said, everybody asked if one tree,
he'll people are friends, But I feel like you probably
made some actual friends on Traders, right, because that's like
you're you're like living life with them.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh yeah, I mean it's just this like very short
amount of time. It's like three weeks.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Would you ever ask any of them to be on
Everyone is doing great, like as like I do like
a little cameo.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Of course, I'd love to one hundred percent. You know,
seeing Michael Rappaport, he's an actor. It's in in a
couple of movies I've seen growing up that big fans
of so him as an actor of Ron Functious. I
think Ron is absolutely hilarious and he's done some great
acting as well. But there's there's such good personalities and
in that show that really you could pull a lot
(33:03):
of folks I think, and play a part version of themselves.
I mean, think about what you could do with Rob
and with Maura. Yeah, I mean Eric, now he's great. Yeah,
so uh, of course there'd be a lot of potential
there with all the personalities.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
James, are you trying to dabble in reality?
Speaker 7 (33:24):
I honestly like, I will watch the show. Of course,
I didn't watch. After you got voted off. I was like,
I'm not watching.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
A loyal friend but not best friend.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I was angry.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
A lot of people have told me that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I was like, thank you, you didn't have to do that.
But it's funny that it shows the effect of the show.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Just what happened. It was the way it happened.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
I understand go into.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
It, but but I found myself like, like, you know,
walking around the house, like doing dishes or like in
the shower, just like thinking about how I would play
the game, you know, Like that's that's the effect that
it has on you, like you know, and and every
single time I caught myself doing it, I came to
the conclusion that I would be terrible at that game
(34:05):
and I should never go anywhere near it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I think you could be a good Actually you're unassuming,
yeah you.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Might, and you're super smart, so you'd be able to
play a couple of steps.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Ahead incredibly off putting group social situations like and no
one would trust me from again?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
You got you got the playbook from Rob?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know, you're just like I'm sorry, guys, I'm just butting.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Like I'm like southern good boy, you know, like kicking
back like I don't. I don't have that charm.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I do feel like you guys are like you said,
good boy but like your men.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
But like I feel like I was gonna say, you
guys are good boys.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
You guys are good boys, but I feel like you
both are like really quality, solid men and like this
is gonna sound so like bad to say, but I
feel like coming from where you came from, and like
I imagine just having being on shows like that, like
your ego was probably like so big, but you don't,
you don't. You guys are so not like that in
(35:01):
real life. And I feel like you just seem like
good men that are married, like family men like you
No seriously and I saw.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
Yeah, I mean yeah, look, I thank you, thank you
for saying that. And I think, you know, we definitely
like I had to learn a lot growing up, you know,
and I think we definitely tested defenses in different ways
as like as as like basically adolescents like growing up
(35:31):
on TV shows. It's just a weird place to grow up.
And like Steven said earlier, you know, there is this
saying that it's like the moment that you become famous
is the moment that you stop maturing. And so that's
not a good situation for people that are sixteen eighteen, right,
And so yeah, I think we had to learn some lessons,
and we had to learn some hard lessons and and
(35:54):
you know, ultimately like yeah, I mean we just we've
we've I think we've really tried to tell that story
as well through like everyone is doing greatness of like
you know, how to how to sort of graduate, like
how to graduate from a version of yourself that you're
not that you you understand is not the version that
(36:15):
you want to be.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Boy or real life.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I mean working on a show, having the privilege to
work on Wantree Hill for years and be out there
in Wilmington, great community took good care of us. It's
not real life ultimately for us, where you know, we are.
The way that things were on such a while taken
care of and it was only show shooting out there
at the time, so you know, folks around town really
(36:38):
looked after us and and you felt like you, you know,
had everything figured out at the day, like this could
go on forever, right, Like we're good.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
This is a good life, but we got the job.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
We're in a beautiful community, we're outside of LA we're
kind of living our own life. Then the show ends
and you go back to LA and you're getting back
into those auditions and your show up in rooms feeling
a little bit of a pressure of the expectation, and yeah,
those rooms can humble you pretty quickly. And that's that
little moment. We talked about this early on we were writing
the show, is some of those first auditions back when
(37:08):
there's no more show to fall back on before you
kind of you had a bad audition, whatever, We're going
to go back and shoot another season of this show. Now,
it's like, oh no, like that didn't go well today
and I have nothing else.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
That's something we.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Talked about, you know, the pilot of you having sex
with a pillow while they're ordering Menosino farm salad.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I was like, this is like this industry is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I could like see that happening in real life, you
know what I mean, Like you're like acting out your
scene and these people are like, what do you want
for lunch?
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And I'm like, it's just so ruthless and cutthroat.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
It's just like, truthfully, like that scene was the kernel
of like the show you know of it was. I mean,
it came from like a sort of amalgamation of or
experiences that we had, but it was not something that
was like out of like the realm of possibility. In fact,
(38:02):
that has happened to people that we know, that exact thing.
And there was, but there's also like an irreverence. It's
like it's yeah, humiliating, but there's also an a reverence
to it and the fact that you are willing to
do that right right, and like where are you in
your life that you're like I need this so and
I am so committed that I'm going to do this
(38:23):
right and and that's like just that push and pull
right there. We were like, this is a comedy, Like
this is this is not just a scene. This is
a comedy, This is a this is a story.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Season two Everyone is doing great premieres Monday, May eleventh
on Netflix. Everybody can check it out. I do want
to get to We have like so many fan questions
but they answered quite a few.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Can I just ask about the reboot, the One Tree
Hill reboot.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Honestly, you probably know more than us.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I think you need different guests here. Yeah, yeah, but yeaheah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I mean it's in good hands with Sophia and Hillary
and Danil. I know they're leading the charge there. Yeah,
And honestly, I haven't gotten an update. I don't know
where it's at the in development development. As we talked
about earlier, it takes time. I think they're a little
disappointed that the news got out earlier than expected.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
So yeah, we'll see, Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Kept that short and sweet.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, I was I want to ask one quick one
from one of our fans because she said, Marina for Steven,
she wants to know what it was like Van Taylor's
this music video for white Horse.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
All right, First of all, him, Marina, thank you for
that question. I honestly loved being in that music video.
It was such a flash in the pan moment. I
was in Nashville for like seventy two hours. I remember
it was raining, is very moody time, and we shot
the video and that was that. And you could tell
just the whole process of even getting involved with it.
(40:00):
And after the fact that you know, Taylor was on
a rocket ship, you know, to a different universe. You
could just see. I really appreciated her story. I was
learning that she was writing songs as like, you know,
not only writing songs on her own, but like traveling
into Nashville and being paid to be a writer. And
I'm playing on all these shows around the country. It
was really cool to see. And yeah, and you know,
(40:20):
I'll tell you this story. I told her about my
cousins that were big fans of hers, and when we
were done with the music video, and and you know,
time had gone on. It must have been like a
year and a half later, and I got a call
one day. I remember, I was I'll never forget. I
was walking in New York City as a random number,
and back then you didn't get quite as many robo calls.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
So I answered it. I was like, oh, who was
this today?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And it was Taylor and she's like, Hey, I'm playing
a show in LA And I know, I remember you
said your cousins would love to go to the show.
Do you want to give me their names and see
if they can make it? And I was like yes,
Like that is incredibly sweet. And they did and they
got backstage and everything, so that just speaks to the
kind of person that show.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Wow. Well, I didn't know we were being.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
So much time.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
You got to get one for James question.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
I've never met Taylor, do you want to?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Okay, if there was a plot on One Tree Hill
that you could change in your storylines, what would it.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
Be a plot I could change? Oh, I mean would
Chase for sure? I mean I mean, selfishly, I get
why it was done. It went the other way because
of the story and it makes sense, but like selfishly,
I wanted Nathan to spend a little more time in
the n b A. I thought that would have been
really fun.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, I agree, that would have been better for you better.
Thank you guys, take time, Thank you guys for having
thanks for coordinating your outfits with me. And that was
my shirt and yeah, I just took pieces and did
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what I needed to do. Season two of Everyone Is
Doing Great premieres Monday, May eleventh on Netflix.
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Speaker 4 (00:16):
We have two very special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
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they're actual icons.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
They are perfect guests for our podcast and our listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It doesn't get more millennial than these two men, in
my opinion, because Stephen COLLETTI we all grew up, we
knew him from Laguna Beach, fell back in love with
him on Traders this season, I.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Say there was a big stint of One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Ye, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's how he met
our other guest, James Lafferty. They were on One Tree
Hill together and now they're doing a new show called
Everyone is Doing Great and it's gonna be on Netflix,
which is huge.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And Everyone is doing great because they're scrubbing in today.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Are you doing great?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Actually, it's really funny. So I got I was like,
I look like a little bit better than I usually do.
And Robbie goes, did you get dressed for your boyfriend today?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, because you had a big crush on Jave Leberty,
who played Nathan Scott.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, but to you, they were the same person.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, And I kind of feel like in that era
of our lives, like everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Was like, oh, Chad Michael Murray, Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Girly.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I don't know. I think it was pretty even more.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, I felt like I was an outlier that I
like Nathan Scott.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, no, no, I think it's a pretty fifty Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, dang, okay, okay, well please do the honors.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Two of the millennial gals biggest crushes are scrubbing in today.
Everyone welcomed James Leaperty and Stephen Kaletti.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Wow, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tanya is just she can't even believe that y'all are here,
to the point where she thinks someone.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Set up a fan of our podcast at this up
because she just can't believe it. How else could it happen?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I mean truly, I was like, somebody in their lives
listens to this podcast, we heard about you.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
We are currently shooting season three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
If everyone's doing great, and this is a bit and
maybe you guys are getting the wool pulled over your eyes.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Are you actually shooting?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Are you actually shooting season three right now, not yet,
we'll get there the can Yes, season two and coming
out on Male eleventh.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
If this hasn't aired already, No, this will air.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
This is going to air before.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Okay, yes, so momentarily, can we let's just jump right
into that because we will dive back into the past.
But since we're on the topic of current days and
what y'all are working on, can we jump into that?
Because first of all, y'all are best friends in real life?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
We try to tell people that you know, you put
the best pressure. We like to keep it CASU one
years and for best and we know each other for
nineteen we get there. Yeah, true, true, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Good friends.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, how did the concept for the show come about?
And then I want to talk about how y'all were
able to get it made and raise the money for
it because my fiance is and she just directed her
first feature film and watching her do the process of
getting it made and the money and all the things
that went along with it, it's a miracle that anything
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gets made basically.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So, oh, I'm gonna let James take this, but I
will say that the very beginning he came over to
my house with a piece of paper that was folded
up in his pocket, and we had to catch up
chat because you know, we're best friends.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
We need to make sure everyone's okay. And then he brought.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Out the piece of paper and said, Hey, this is
what I'm thinking for the show, and I love him
to take it from there.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Wow. Thanks man. So everybody's just relaxed for the next
forty minutes. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, look, we yeah,
you know, like you just said, like, you know what
it's like. You've seen what it's like when somebody's trying
to pull their project together. I think equally as sort
of difficult and time consuming can be the process of
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just like sort of writing a script or a pitch
and then taking it out to pitch it to people,
to ask for permission to make it, right, to ask
people for you know, studios or production companies to make it.
And we had an idea that was very very we
could shoot a pilot for it. We knew we could
shoot a pilot for it, a pilot episode for it
in like four days, right, and we only needed like
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actors and our locations that we literally live in. And
we just kind of realized that we had the resources
to do this. We just needed to pull it together
as a production. We could shoot it for very very
cheap and we would have at least a pilot to
shop instead of a script, right, And so that's what
we did, and we ended up taking it out and
(04:55):
we weren't getting sort of the looks that we wanted.
We weren't getting the opportunities to make the show that
we wanted to make the entire season. So we decided
that we were going to crowdfund, and so we spent
a few months crowdfunding the thing, which was a whole
journey in its I mean, that was a whole production
in itself. And then it's thankfully, like the fans of
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One Tree Hill, fans of Luna Beach, fans of like
Alex's show, the Royals and Caribas show H two O like,
they really showed up for us in a huge way
and got us that budget and we went straight into
shooting season one from there and from there it was,
you know, another year until we had i think licensed
(05:37):
the first season to Hulu. After that, it took us
about a year just to grow our souls and our
brain cells back. After that whole world journey we went on,
and then it was like, all right, let's do season two.
So we took it upon ourselves to make season two
because again, we wanted to make it how we wanted
to make it. We had a very specific vision for it,
and we felt like we had pulled that vision off
(05:58):
with season one. So we just didn't want any more
intervention from anyone, or any intervention from anyone. Yeah, so
we went ahead with season two, and then there was
this was like the whole the whole journey was like
sort of difficult, and there was hitches and bumps in
the road along the way. But I think the from
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the from the time we finished season two editing it
and everything and locking the episodes to when we actually
we are now able to announce that it's coming out
on Netflix May eleventh, has been probably the most taxing
of it all, just because of the amount of time
it took and the industry contraction that was going on
right when we were going to market and all kinds
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of stuff. But yeah, I mean this everything that I
just described to you, there has been seven year odyssey.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah. The first one came out in twenty twenty one, yeah,
now twenty six.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Yeah, so well, basically basically pacing with euphoria.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Right, yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Time, you know.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Yeah, So so that's the journey. I mean, where was
that taking me, Sar, I got lost myself.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, it's there's a lot we go over here. It's
it's as you were saying earlier, like the chance of
anything getting made in this industry doesn't matter who you are.
I mean, you could be Brad Pitt, or you can
be somebody just starting out. Like anything getting made is
its own little miracle. And James like to say sometimes
it's almost like if you stare at the mountain, say
all right, this is what you need to do to
actually get your show on air. A lot of folks
(07:27):
might not do it because it can't there's just a
lot of unknowns and it's a long long time. But
when you've got a community of folks and good friends
to work with, like thankfully we all kind of push
each other through it so you get.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's very beautifully shot. Like it looks expensive if we well, I.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Mean, premium content is what we're trying to create.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
And I think that was like what we set out
to do. We realized that, like you can do this
now and in the same way that I think probably
in like the seventies and the eighties, people realized, hey,
you can make like a feature film without a studio
and it can still go to theaters. People will go
watch it like it's a feature film that you know,
MGM made or something I've Back in twenty seventeen, we
felt like TV was like the technology and the access
(08:11):
to resources had reached the point to where you could
do that with television, right, you could do that with
a long season, and you know, we thought that's what
we pulled off with with season one. It just turns
out that like the model of independent television is so
new that it doesn't really it's it's had a difficult
(08:31):
time finding its place, like in the marketplace of TV
shows that are produced for studios by studios. But I
think now it's sort of the concept of sort of
catching up to the times a little bit, and we
might see it happening more like you might see more
people coming together to create a TV show that way
that they would have an indie movie.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I also feel like there's this, I mean, especially
with AI and stuff, there's this thing where everything kind
of feel like you've lost the creativity. So I feel
like y'all even though it's probably just a nightmare trying
to get it done and like having to figure out
how are we going to get the funds, how are
we gonna distribute it? It essentially was your idea and
(09:15):
your vision, right that came to life because y'all were
in control of it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
How I know it's loose it's loosely based on your lives,
which I understand now having seen it.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
How like, how much of it is based on your lives?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, you know, it's we obviously are are in a
world where we know very well, and we wanted to
on purpose. It's it's you know, talk about being on
a teen drama or having a lot of success when
you're younger and finding these guys years later and see
what they're going through. You know, we really wanted to
be able to, you know, come from a place of all, right,
we know this world well, and we've had a unique perspective.
(09:54):
We have a lot of stories that we've shared with
each other and had laughs up. You know, horror stories
of auditioning or being on set and just whatever. Being
in this crazy business, so we knew we wanted to
set there, but as far as like where our place
is in it, we like to say, if there was
a point where we just stopped maturing, you know, the
version of ourselves being being very young and they say,
you know, for folks that are very famous young, they
(10:16):
sometimes they stop maturing and you know they can struggle
a little bit as they get into their midlife. So
we were kind of playing with that a little bit. Thankfully,
you know, we're not these guys. You know, we would
they would not be able to make a TV show
and they have a lot that they need to figure
out and making a lot of poor decisions, and that's
what we wanted to do to it. I think Koree Behind,
one of our actresses, she put it best. She said,
(10:38):
it's almost like if you listen to the little devil
on your shoulder at all times, you know, and just
said yes to him, this is the result of your
life would be life.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Because this is the show.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's got a lot of absurd comedy, but it's still
there's some heart in there. You know, Like these guys,
it goes they're trying to you know, do their best
and trying to make their way, but they're really struggling
along the way, and it's because they've just having a
very late coming of age.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
So yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I feel like, to
what Kariba was saying, it's that's how I've always thought
about these characters. They're like the versions of ourselves that
we are the most terrified of, that we might have
seen like glimpses of in the past. And uh and
had to take a moment and look in the mirror
and be like, you know, okay, it's time to put
some pants on and put Red Dead Redemption on pause
(11:26):
and go outside.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, and actually I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, we can get into that later, but I feel
like coming off of what you you guys came off
of in your past is probably like I don't feel
like anybody can really relate to that, Like that's just like,
well so crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
I think in a way, that's what like kind of
drew us to the show was that we realized that.
And I think a lot of people on you know,
television shows that have been successful feel this way about
their experience. It's like an experience that like only you had,
And so even if you know you don't get along
(12:05):
now or you didn't get along in the past, there's
always like a familiarity there. You know each other on
a level that no one else will be able to understand.
So there is like this natural camaraderie that comes out
of that, and I feel like people recognize that, and
I feel like that's why the first question that people
(12:27):
ask us a lot of the times about our respective
shows or you know, One Tree Hill is is everybody
friends in real life? That's what everybody wants to know.
The first thing they want to know as everyone friends
in real life. And I think that's because they want
us to be friends in real life because the characters
were friends and they feel like, you know, they feel
(12:48):
like our friends as well, So it's like, you know,
I mean, that's That's one of the things that drew
us to this concept was was exploring that, Okay, what's
the actual answer to that question? Right? And for this
particular world, they absolutely are still friends, but they probably
have no business being friends, right, Like they probably shouldn't
(13:08):
be friends, they probably shouldn't be married to each other,
they probably shouldn't have relationships, but they are the only
ones that understand like where they're coming from, and how
confused they are about where they're going, and so they
lean on each other, you know, and it just creates
conflict and chaos, and that's where the humor comes from.
But I mean what you just said right there, really,
(13:28):
I think like speaks to the heart of the show,
and I think people can sort of they're interested in it,
but can also relate to it with other things they've
been through in their lives.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I was watching it with my husband and I've never
seen Entourage, so I couldn't I can't speak to this,
but he was like, the show gives me Entourage vibes,
and I was like, Oh, that's I'm gonna tell them that.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
That's a really good compliment.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's perfect. I mean, yeah, we feel
like we feel like we kind of set out to
be like the anti Entourage and that we're Entourage is
like aspirational, you know, like it's about like them succeeding
ours is about like how many times can you up
and fall before you like don't get up again, or
thinking about not getting up, or for a friend has
to help you out, you know. But you know, the
(14:08):
the yeah, I mean, like the camaraderie aspect of that show.
We can all agree it was like what it's so
famous for, Like it just captured friendship, and so that's
a huge compliment.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I want to throw it back to how both of
your lives in this world got started, because we know
y'all from a very a similar era and obviously y'all
were on the show together. But Steven, I want to
go back to Laguna Beach for you because I was
listening to your podcast with Tish Cyrus and I was
always wondering this reality. It was kind of in its
(14:58):
own world of reality TV. There wasn't the the casting
I guess, like you didn't go to a casting call,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Like they just kind of just showed.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Up at our high school for breaking lunch with a
table and some packets to fill out. It was purely random.
We are victims of circumstances, like yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So how how many people signed up?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
There are a lot of people, and it was mostly
a lot of the girls did and a lot of
guys were like playing it cool and doing the whole like,
you know, screw MTV.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Whatever happened music television? That's so lame. And I was like, yeah,
that's so late.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
When never and then sneaking in like I'm totally gonna
do this because I wanted to work in entertainment and
I wanted to host.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I had you know, that was middle school.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They had those superlatives where it's like most likely, and
one of them was most likely to be a VJ.
And I was like, even though there's no one was
going to vote for me, I just thought I was
sitting at home like that would be so cool if
they voted for me. And of course they did not,
but it's just where my mind was at. And so yeah,
that's why. And your senior year, so I happened to
And that's the other thing. If it was sophomore junior year,
I probably wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have had
(16:02):
the balls to do it. But uh, second semester senior year,
you're you're ready to get out of there. Yeah, so
I was like, let's let's go for it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But nobody knew that it was going to be like
it was. It was like a phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It was honestly, we just expected to be like a
little documentary one hour, you know. It was to me,
it was all about just you know, meeting it was
connecting and networking and and maybe MTV was going to
pay for a couple of events like a dinner or a.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Trip, and that was going to be it, you know.
So yeah, we really.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Had no idea about how far it was going to
actually go. And they do multiple seasons.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So you knew you wanted to be in the industry
in some capacity, and you were like, this could be
my way in at a dinner.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I remember when I was walking up to pick up
a packet from the producer. You know, I was like,
all right, let's find out if this guy works for
an MTV or if he just somebody's hired for the day.
You know, It's like do I need to know this
person or not. I was just kind of thinking that
way from the jump.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So when when it blew up, how did your friends
that thought it was the lame from the get go?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
How did everyone respond?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I mean I got a lot of grief because they
focused a lot which we also didn't necessarily know on.
You know, Yeah, this these like love traying love was
very much you know, played up for the show, and
so it was you know, it was a shock and
and yeah, it was definitely a lot of ribbing from
my friends, like rightfully, so I deserved it, but yeah,
(17:24):
I just took it all and stride and just was
in denial for a while.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I think was was anybody? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I was like, no one's really watched this is James's chance?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Did anyone that was giving it grief to begin with
end up coming around and being like, hey, get me
on the show.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
The amount of dudes who were like it's so lame.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And then we were shooting season two and it was like, hey,
the cameras are going to be there, and they're like,
I don't care, Yeah, I'll be The amount of people
we went back after that my first semester of college
and we were starting to shoot season two and there
was a little like coming home parties, and suddenly a
lot of friends were down yeah there, like I want
to go show up on camera and they're doing little
(18:01):
stunts trying to like get a moment.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
It was funny to see that.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
How much time between Laguna Beach and then when you
came on a one tree hill.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
So let's see here.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I stopped shooting my part in Lagoon and probably the
end of two thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh wow, I love I love timestamps like this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, actually sorry ended two thousand and five because it
was after my first year of college.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
I finished in the spring.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I was done shooting lagun and by the end of
two thousand and five, and then yeah, I just I
was hosting, of course for MTV, doing TRL, and I
kind of noticed then I was like, look, I've been
taking some acting classes. That was more interesting to me
and I wanted to pursue that. It was about a
year and a half later that about two thousand and
(18:45):
seven is when I got on one trail. Yeah, it took.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It took a little while there.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
There was an audition and went well, but then like
this isn't the role for you, but maybe maybe we'll
have you back. And I remember, you know, seeing James
and everyone else on the show and going like it's
actually somebody came on to TRL when I was hosting,
and I was like.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
That would be a really cool show to work on.
I'd love to work on that show.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Actually, I did a movie with Hillary Burton too, and
she was talking about being in Wilmington where they shot
the show.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I was like, man, they got a good life down there.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Do you remember what the first role you auditioned for
was I don't think.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't and I don't know if it was dummy
sides like it was just something that they had, yeah,
just to see if I can actually act.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Or what that would be interesting to find that out on.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I feel like TV then is so different than TV
is now. Like I guess there are still some of
those shows and movies that have that like cult like following,
but I feel like not like they did back then.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, also without social media, Like I think that's the
testament of that time, was that it was just successful
because it was successful and people loved it. It didn't
really have the push of TikTok and Instagram. It was
just because people were fans of the show and they
got their weekly episode and went crazy trying to get more,
and so everything I'm sure felt even bigger for y'all
(20:04):
because I watched you know, you watch social media now
and there's not really that element of mystery around it
because we know everything. And then there's spoilers everywhere whereas
you used to go. I remember hunting for spoilers for
One Tree Hill, like what's gonna happen next?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Like the scenes from the net for the next episode that.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Was such all those you can't miss those.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's wild. I mean I feel
like that's one thing that we were talking about when
we were formulating the idea for everyone who's doing great,
it was like what show were they going to be on?
Because when in twenty seventeen, when we first were thinking
this up, we were like, we need a show that's
like really big, like like we know, One Tree Hill
(20:47):
was like kind of you know, it is what it is,
but like it's got to be like Vampire Diaries or something.
It's got to be like huge.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I was getting like Twilight vibes, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Something like that. There was also like the physical comedy
of like being able to do flashbacks of the I'm
like in their vampire makeup, like talking about what their
launch order is, you know. But also it was just like,
you know, it's got to be something that was like
this cultural sort of sensation that they really can't get
away from.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
But something's happened in the last like between twenty seventeen
and even now where like the popularity of One Tree
Hill has I think grown probably exponentially, and it's been
doing this since we finished shooting the show. Like around
the time we finished shooting the show, I think Netflix
was just starting as like a streamer and One Tree
(21:33):
Hill was on it, and so we filmed One Tree
Hill and it was always like okay, yeah, it was
obviously enough people like it to keep us coming back, right,
But then we finished shooting, the show comes out on Netflix,
and we see each other again like a year later,
and it's like, are you getting recognized all the time everywhere?
(21:54):
It's like, yeah, what's going on? We just had no idea,
you know. Obviously it comes into focus over then few
years that it's because of streaming, and it's just I mean,
it is far more popular now than it was back then.
I mean, like I'm telling you, I mean I don't
know if you disagree, but like I there was not
any sort of i think broad recognition of it. I
(22:16):
think for like every one of our fans, there was
probably like five or six fans of you know, any
other show, any other team drama you can name that
was that was out there, that went for multiple seasons.
It was just a very very like passionate crowd. It
was a very passionate audience and and they like they
really showed up for us, So I think they had
(22:37):
like an outsized like impact in terms of like voice
on forums and things like that, and they showed up
to events that we went to. But in terms of
like its broad appeal, yeah, one hundred percent is IS
is far more successful than it was when we were
actually shooting the show.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
That's amazing. Do y'all get residuals from that?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Uh supposed to? Well, we pay our sag dues for that.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, the streaming residuals look different than oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I mean the show. The show is definitely old
enough to where we had like a traditional syndication deal
on soap network after like we were in our fourth season,
so you know that was cool. But yeah, that that's
that doesn't happen really anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So, Yeah, did you ever have moments because you your
Nathan and Haley had such a have such an extreme
fan base of people who shipped them, did you ever
have as an actor, did you ever wish there was
more conflict there and that you got to explore other
things or did you like the consistency of them always
(23:41):
being an ending up together?
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Oh yeah, no, that's actually a really good question and
I don't think anybody's ever asked me that question, but
one hundred percent I would read the scripts, and I'm
sure Joy feels the same way we probably talked about it.
Like I remember reading the scripts and being like, oh, man,
really like disagree about anything anymore? You know, like after
a while it really became and look, it's great, Like
(24:06):
I love that they were like rock solid.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, you were steady Eddie for all of us watching.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
I think that's really really cool. I but yeah, I
think that there was a bit of like fatigue in
terms of like seeing sort of the same scene play
out over and over again, because there's only so many
different versions of like that I think you can do.
But obviously, storytelling television it's all about conflict, right, It's
like the most interesting when there's some friction y and uh.
(24:33):
And it just felt extremely like friction lists for a
while towards the end. But you know, obviously that was
not like a huge issue or anything like that. I
just I remember the feeling of reading the script and
being like.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh, here we go again.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
We could have disagreed.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's so funny that it's so funny that you say that, though,
because so I like you when I was watching, like
you were like my boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Like I was, like, I always thought it was controversial.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But it is a big deal for her, a big deal.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I got ready. My husband's like, are you ready for
your boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But but because I think, like maybe subconsciously, I didn't
like Lucas. I was like a Nathan Scott person. And
I feel like I married a steady Eddie. I feel
like you subconsciously, like I wanted that from like seeing that,
I mean you shap.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
No, yeah, shifting in his seat.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
I'm wearing so much makeup. No, you can't see. No,
I get it though, you know, like I watched The Office,
like I love the Office, and and you know, Jim
and Pam. You know, I think it's it's it's it's
an amazing I know that feeling and and and I
know that that's why we love TV and we love
these characters. And so yeah, I mean, obviously I'm I
(25:54):
wasn't the writer on the show. I had no say
in any of that, and I didn't want any say
in any of that. They obviously knew what they were
doing because look what it did, you know. So it's
like my preference there as like an actor. There's a
reason they don't let actors write scripts most of the time.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
I think, now you're doing both.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly, you know, that's like a line
that we have to walk, you know, and we want
to go for multiple seasons. We want to be doing
this for a while. Like we want the show to
evolve with like life and the things that we learn
personally in life, and it's designed to do that. And
so I think that like a question like that is
something that we are going to have to and we are,
(26:36):
we are already facing. It's like, all right, how much
getting along is too much getting along? Right? And like
and also how much disagreeting is too much disagreeing?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So yeah, how much chaos is too much chaos?
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I can ask you a silly like in the Weeds
thing about so you guys, you direct, you act, you're
like kind of everything for this show. Since you're not
on Netflix, does that change anything? Do they have a
say or is it still you guys?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
It's still it's still us.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So we're still an independent show because we licensed the
show to them, so they are not taking ownership. We're
not like a Netflix original.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Got It? Got It? So you still get to have
your voice, your vision.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, I mean, we'd love to partner with Netflix and
Sony who actually is the one that got us into
Netflix there, they've been a great partner for us. We
want to have a partner where we can get a
little bit of a stronger budget so we could have
a little less stress and and and take off some
of the hats and spread the love around. But that's why,
and we're happy to do it, like we we enjoy
(27:33):
doing this because we get to make the show we want.
But a part of doing a lot of these roles
is so that we can keep our budget down and
spend more money on what's going on screen. So yeah,
but we're hoping, you know, season two goes well and
and and more people can talk about the show and
say that they enjoy it and tag those those big
(27:53):
partners like Netflix gives us a good chance to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I could do that, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
When you started Wontree Hill, were you one of the
I don't have memories of people someone going from reality
TV to a networks like one of the first.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think there's there's been some folks that have done it.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I think maybe because Laguna was kind of a first
of its kind type reality show, the fact that we
were complete randoms and and.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yeah, it's and so we kind of got to start there.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
But there are people that have you know, the lines
have been blurred from from hosting into acting of course,
and that's similar.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So yeah, I don't think I was the first.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Can we shift a gear really fast? Just because I'm
also a huge Traders fan? Yeah, and you were on
this last season. I need to know how did you
not know Rob was a trader? Like I need to
know from somebody on the inside, how did you not
see it?
Speaker 7 (28:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, I didn't know Rob going into it, so I
knew nothing about him. And from the jump he played
very quiet, and it was almost like he was like
somebody signed this, signed me up to be here, and
I was just like, I'm down.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I just didn't know anything.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So we kind of all came to our own conclusions
about you know, Rob was He's like, I'm a little
socially awkward to get, yeah, you know, quiet in groups,
and so from there it was like, all right, it
would be tough to see this guy wanting to be
a trader if he was already stepping outside of his
comfort zone to be on the show, because I could
relate to that coming into the show, I was stepping
outside my comfort zone. I wanted to play it safe
(29:27):
and be a faithful I pushed, I put that forward
from the jump.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
So yeah, and he was.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
We're an excellent faithful.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I feel Rob was also a really good faith He
was Yeah, and he had a lot of folks wrapped
around his finger and no one was looking. And it
wasn't until tera Actually Lipinski was telling me that. She
was like, it wasn't until we got you out and
we messed that up that Johnny and I really put
our heads together and said, oh wait a minute, it's
been right under our.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Nose this whole time.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Because also the way that Candice sold her throwaway vote
to Rob, it was she really It just looked like
she was trying to save Lisa and protect her traders,
so it's not like she was deflecting to another trader.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
That that was when I lost it. I was like,
how is no?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
We didn't know the behind the scenes fighting that was
going on there, and so it's it was, Yeah, nobody
was was onto him at at all. And you know
what I will say, because he put forth, it's like
very you know, socially awkward, kind of casual front. When
he was getting on the show and I got off it,
and I took like one look at his Instagram and
there's a lot of like the snakes, there's a lot
(30:30):
more personality. He's shirtless, he's very comfortable, and I'm like,
wait a minute, that's a different dude. Yeah, So give
him a lot of credit. He played that character very
well and he absolutely crushed it. So and as a viewer,
I mean the end, the ending moment between him and
Maura is devastating. That is, and that's the thing where
you know everyone has feelings for that very specific moment,
(30:53):
and and you know what you feel for Maura and
you feel for Rob. It's yeah, they do an incredible
job on that show and those two killed it. So
credit to them.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
One, she got a burken back. I know she.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Was a victor and all of it. I told her
right away. She was so embarrassed. After we were doing
the reunion, we just watched the episode. She's like, oh
my god, I'm an idiot. I was like, we are
all idiots. Yeah, and you're not. You've You've come out
just fine.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
That was a saving grace. Is I feel like everyone
that this season like we're idiots. So like I'm like,
I can't blame her.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean, I think I said it was like we
I said on the way out, as I said, you
blew it, I should have said, I blew it, you're
blowing it. But we deserved nothing as faithfuls.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
How long because obviously I'm so competitive, so I when
you were like so upset and angry like you blew it.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I've related so much that because even though I know
it's a game and a.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
TV show, I feel so betrayed in that moment. It
would take me a second to face those people again.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, I mean, because you're so in the game when
you're there and the phones are taken away from you,
so that's your life while you're there, Right, You're really
locked into this game, and even though it is a game,
you know, you you don't have to take it too seriously.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
At the end of the day, we're all here just
to have some fun.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But I'm a competitive person, so you know, in that moment,
you're you're you know, that competitive spirit's coming out, and
I'm I'm taking the l on the forehead and I'm like,
you know what, I can I honestly have myself to
blame through it as well. I I made some decisions
that ultimately cost me. So yeah, and I never knew
it was Rob.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I know, like you said, everybody asked if one tree,
he'll people are friends, But I feel like you probably
made some actual friends on Traders, right, because that's like
you're you're like living life with them.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh yeah, I mean it's just this like very short
amount of time. It's like three weeks.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Would you ever ask any of them to be on
Everyone is doing great, like as like I do like
a little cameo.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Of course, I'd love to one hundred percent. You know,
seeing Michael Rappaport, he's an actor. It's in in a
couple of movies I've seen growing up that big fans
of so him as an actor of Ron Functious. I
think Ron is absolutely hilarious and he's done some great
acting as well. But there's there's such good personalities and
in that show that really you could pull a lot
(33:03):
of folks I think, and play a part version of themselves.
I mean, think about what you could do with Rob
and with Maura. Yeah, I mean Eric, now he's great. Yeah,
so uh, of course there'd be a lot of potential
there with all the personalities.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
James, are you trying to dabble in reality?
Speaker 7 (33:24):
I honestly like, I will watch the show. Of course,
I didn't watch. After you got voted off. I was like,
I'm not watching.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
A loyal friend but not best friend.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I was angry.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
A lot of people have told me that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I was like, thank you, you didn't have to do that.
But it's funny that it shows the effect of the show.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Just what happened. It was the way it happened.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
I understand go into.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
It, but but I found myself like, like, you know,
walking around the house, like doing dishes or like in
the shower, just like thinking about how I would play
the game, you know, Like that's that's the effect that
it has on you, like you know, and and every
single time I caught myself doing it, I came to
the conclusion that I would be terrible at that game
(34:05):
and I should never go anywhere near it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I think you could be a good Actually you're unassuming,
yeah you.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Might, and you're super smart, so you'd be able to
play a couple of steps.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Ahead incredibly off putting group social situations like and no
one would trust me from again?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
You got you got the playbook from Rob?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know, you're just like I'm sorry, guys, I'm just butting.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Like I'm like southern good boy, you know, like kicking
back like I don't. I don't have that charm.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I do feel like you guys are like you said,
good boy but like your men.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
But like I feel like I was gonna say, you
guys are good boys.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
You guys are good boys, but I feel like you
both are like really quality, solid men and like this
is gonna sound so like bad to say, but I
feel like coming from where you came from, and like
I imagine just having being on shows like that, like
your ego was probably like so big, but you don't,
you don't. You guys are so not like that in
(35:01):
real life. And I feel like you just seem like
good men that are married, like family men like you
No seriously and I saw.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
Yeah, I mean yeah, look, I thank you, thank you
for saying that. And I think, you know, we definitely
like I had to learn a lot growing up, you know,
and I think we definitely tested defenses in different ways
as like as as like basically adolescents like growing up
(35:31):
on TV shows. It's just a weird place to grow up.
And like Steven said earlier, you know, there is this
saying that it's like the moment that you become famous
is the moment that you stop maturing. And so that's
not a good situation for people that are sixteen eighteen, right,
And so yeah, I think we had to learn some lessons,
and we had to learn some hard lessons and and
(35:54):
you know, ultimately like yeah, I mean we just we've
we've I think we've really tried to tell that story
as well through like everyone is doing greatness of like
you know, how to how to sort of graduate, like
how to graduate from a version of yourself that you're
not that you you understand is not the version that
(36:15):
you want to be.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Boy or real life.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I mean working on a show, having the privilege to
work on Wantree Hill for years and be out there
in Wilmington, great community took good care of us. It's
not real life ultimately for us, where you know, we are.
The way that things were on such a while taken
care of and it was only show shooting out there
at the time, so you know, folks around town really
(36:38):
looked after us and and you felt like you, you know,
had everything figured out at the day, like this could
go on forever, right, Like we're good.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
This is a good life, but we got the job.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
We're in a beautiful community, we're outside of LA we're
kind of living our own life. Then the show ends
and you go back to LA and you're getting back
into those auditions and your show up in rooms feeling
a little bit of a pressure of the expectation, and yeah,
those rooms can humble you pretty quickly. And that's that
little moment. We talked about this early on we were writing
the show, is some of those first auditions back when
(37:08):
there's no more show to fall back on before you
kind of you had a bad audition, whatever, We're going
to go back and shoot another season of this show. Now,
it's like, oh no, like that didn't go well today
and I have nothing else.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
That's something we.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Talked about, you know, the pilot of you having sex
with a pillow while they're ordering Menosino farm salad.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I was like, this is like this industry is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I could like see that happening in real life, you
know what I mean, Like you're like acting out your
scene and these people are like, what do you want
for lunch?
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And I'm like, it's just so ruthless and cutthroat.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
It's just like, truthfully, like that scene was the kernel
of like the show you know of it was. I mean,
it came from like a sort of amalgamation of or
experiences that we had, but it was not something that
was like out of like the realm of possibility. In fact,
(38:02):
that has happened to people that we know, that exact thing.
And there was, but there's also like an irreverence. It's
like it's yeah, humiliating, but there's also an a reverence
to it and the fact that you are willing to
do that right right, and like where are you in
your life that you're like I need this so and
I am so committed that I'm going to do this
(38:23):
right and and that's like just that push and pull
right there. We were like, this is a comedy, Like
this is this is not just a scene. This is
a comedy, This is a this is a story.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Season two Everyone is doing great premieres Monday, May eleventh
on Netflix. Everybody can check it out. I do want
to get to We have like so many fan questions
but they answered quite a few.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Can I just ask about the reboot, the One Tree
Hill reboot.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Honestly, you probably know more than us.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I think you need different guests here. Yeah, yeah, but yeaheah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I mean it's in good hands with Sophia and Hillary
and Danil. I know they're leading the charge there. Yeah,
And honestly, I haven't gotten an update. I don't know
where it's at the in development development. As we talked
about earlier, it takes time. I think they're a little
disappointed that the news got out earlier than expected.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
So yeah, we'll see, Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Kept that short and sweet.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, I was I want to ask one quick one
from one of our fans because she said, Marina for Steven,
she wants to know what it was like Van Taylor's
this music video for white Horse.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
All right, First of all, him, Marina, thank you for
that question. I honestly loved being in that music video.
It was such a flash in the pan moment. I
was in Nashville for like seventy two hours. I remember
it was raining, is very moody time, and we shot
the video and that was that. And you could tell
just the whole process of even getting involved with it.
(40:00):
And after the fact that you know, Taylor was on
a rocket ship, you know, to a different universe. You
could just see. I really appreciated her story. I was
learning that she was writing songs as like, you know,
not only writing songs on her own, but like traveling
into Nashville and being paid to be a writer. And
I'm playing on all these shows around the country. It
was really cool to see. And yeah, and you know,
(40:20):
I'll tell you this story. I told her about my
cousins that were big fans of hers, and when we
were done with the music video, and and you know,
time had gone on. It must have been like a
year and a half later, and I got a call
one day. I remember, I was I'll never forget. I
was walking in New York City as a random number,
and back then you didn't get quite as many robo calls.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
So I answered it. I was like, oh, who was
this today?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And it was Taylor and she's like, Hey, I'm playing
a show in LA And I know, I remember you
said your cousins would love to go to the show.
Do you want to give me their names and see
if they can make it? And I was like yes,
Like that is incredibly sweet. And they did and they
got backstage and everything, so that just speaks to the
kind of person that show.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Wow. Well, I didn't know we were being.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
So much time.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
You got to get one for James question.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
I've never met Taylor, do you want to?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Okay, if there was a plot on One Tree Hill
that you could change in your storylines, what would it.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
Be a plot I could change? Oh, I mean would
Chase for sure? I mean I mean, selfishly, I get
why it was done. It went the other way because
of the story and it makes sense, but like selfishly,
I wanted Nathan to spend a little more time in
the n b A. I thought that would have been
really fun.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, I agree, that would have been better for you better.
Thank you guys, take time, Thank you guys for having
thanks for coordinating your outfits with me. And that was
my shirt and yeah, I just took pieces and did
(42:03):
what I needed to do. Season two of Everyone Is
Doing Great premieres Monday, May eleventh on Netflix.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
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Speaker 5 (42:10):
Support tag Netflix tag.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Give us a little double thumbs up on the this
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you if you enjoy.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
It, and I just want all of our I didn't lost.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Oh you got to set the reminder and then once
the show has been once it's on, you can.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Do the double. Okay, okay, supporting independent.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I just want everyone to know they're even better in person. Yeah,
we're very grateful for y'all. Time so good, so grateful.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Thanks guys,
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