August 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Fan favorite from Joey Graziadei's season Daisy Kent joins Ben to recap the latest episode of Bachelor in Paradise and fill us in on her new podcast "Dirty Rush"!
The cash prize is looming large on the contestants, but how does Daisy feel about the additional incentive to make a connection??
Daisy has an inside connection to Lea, which makes for some strong opinions about what Jonathon needs to do to salvage the relationship.
Which Golden couple has Ben scratching his head, wondering what their current relationship status is?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's been with
another recap of Bachelor and Paradise, and this time I've
got a very special guest, a part of the iHeart family,
one of Bachelor Nation's most beloved cast members of all time.
She stole our hearts, she made us cry. She's great.
(00:27):
We were in Tahoe last week and together because we
have some exciting news to talk about before we break
down the episode. Daisy Kent is here from Joey season.
I don't know if anybody really needed to know that.
Of course they knew she was on Joey's season, but
it might have been Daisy and Kelsey season more than Joey.
I don't know if Joey gets the credit for that season.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, the credit.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I love Joey, but his cast was awesome. Daisy. Yeah,
we're breaking down to this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise.
You started out when you got on here you said
I loved this episode, which is awesome because I did
as well. I'm really excited to talk about I have
a lot of feelings. Some things are becoming more clear
to me some things that have been confusing throughout the season.
(01:10):
But before we break it down, I want to talk
about this new show you have coming out that's out Actually,
as I've just been informed, Dirty Rush. Dirty Rush is
the name of the show. I'm gonna let you explain
it to me, but I will say this, The whole
iHeart team that was out with us in Tahoe is
so fired up for this show. They think it's going
to be a massive hit. You're gonna be flying around
(01:32):
in private jets based on this show. Like they think
the world of this show. What is it about? Why
should people listen? I'll just give the floor to you.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I think it's really interesting because Megia and Jen. I
feel like we all have such different backgrounds.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Who are the co hosts? Explain the coasts a little bit?
Because you say g and Jen, they might not know
who that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Gia.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
She's been on like Bravo, her whole life on like
the reel Housewives of New Jersey, and then Jen and
she was also on that, and then me I come
from like the Bachelor ABC side of things.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I think we.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
All have very like we all grew up very differently,
and also like our sorority experiences. I feel like we
went to completely different schools, so we all have something
different to say about it. And I think it's gonna
be cool because from the episodes that we recorded already, yes,
it is about like sororities, and it's about like the
relationships you make in them, also like the crazy things
(02:28):
that happened in them. But it also ties it back
to like growing up and in college is such an
exciting time in your life, but it can also be hard.
So we're there to like give advice and help girls too.
So I think it's gonna be really special all of
the things that were able to do with it, because
college was such a life changing time for me and
that's where I met my best friends, and a lot
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of it had to do with meaning a sorority. But
I also didn't love being in a sorority all the time.
So I think that's kind of where my experience comes in,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
From my experience in Greek life, which was very short
lived based on some very unfortunate circumstances that occurred in
my life at the time. It wasn't always pretty, and
I think sororities. When I went to college, I had
this picture of a sorority. They had a lot better
food than the fraternities. There were a lot prettier people
in the fraternities. But if you start like lifting up
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the little little bit you can see inside and it's
not always like this wonderful, beautiful experience. Are you talking
about that? Are you sharing the good, the bad, the
uglies or is it just kind of helping people as
they enter into this season.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
No, we're definitely sharing the good, the bad, and the ugly,
and also like the really great things that come out
of it, which I think is what makes this podcast
very special.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I also think I can relate a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
To a lot of different experiences that girls go through
in college, whether being in a sorority or not, because
there was a time when I also wasn't in a sorority.
And so I think it's just going to be a
lot of like fun conversations and anyone can call in
and talk on the podcast, so I think that's really cool,
and you'll be completely anonymous also, So yeah, we just
(04:15):
want to hear people's experiences and give our advice. So
we're excited for everyone to tune in.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's a big uh. It's gonna be a big show.
iHeart is excited about it. Final question for you. You know,
I hear about the Sorority show. I know some of
the content that you were putting out there in Tahoe,
A lot of it seemed to be around prepping to
enter into a sorority or what's it like life in ausrority.
But your listener really ranges from not only those that
(04:44):
are pursuing the idea of a sorority living inside of
a sorority currently, also people in their fifty sixty seventies
who are a part of a sorority. Why would they
listen to this because I know that's a huge demo
that you want to speak to.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think because we have and like we're gonna have
moms on the show to also talk about like being
a mom, and like the pressure that's put on girls
going through the recruitment process and just how like for me,
I had a really really fun time, and I think
part of that was I didn't understand what I was
doing when I was going through it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I knew nothing about a sorority.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But I think it'll be cool for like the moms
to listen and give their side of things because I
know like my mom. She's always told me when I
go through something and it's like great or it's like
really hard, she feels those emotions like ten times more
for me than she's ever felt for herself.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Like, I think a.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Mom's love is just so powerful. So I think hearing
mom's stories and their experiences too is also going to
be great. And also the girls who like weren't in
sororities are the ones who don't want to be in ones.
That's okay too, And I think talking about that also
is really important because I was that way.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Also, it's gonna be a great show. It's called Dirty Rush.
You can find it right now wherever you listen to podcasts.
It's one of our new iHeart Family podcast. Daisy Kent
as a co host. I'm excited for it. A lot
lot of just giddiness in Tahoe around this new launch
of this new show. Now back to our show here
(06:12):
at the Almost Famous podcast to talk about Bachelor and Paradise.
As I said, Daisy is excited to talk about this episode.
I don't know if she liked it or didn't like
it yet, We're gonna get into that as we go.
Daisy also is young enough and relevant enough to have
friends that are currently on the show, so maybe she
can give us an inside glance at what they're they
were experiencing during filming. We're gonna start with this, it's
(06:36):
the Rose Ceremony again. We're kind of starting the episode
one hour to the row ceremony. If you remember from
last week's episode, the men have the roses this week.
This week there's a big kind of in balance when
it comes to the Goldens. There's well six women, three roses,
so three women are gonna be going home. I've been
(06:57):
confused about that now for the last week, don't really
get clarity on it, but we get to see some
relationships form Daisy. Yeah, thoughts at the beginning of this episode,
as we enter into the rose ceremony with who has
the roses and who does it?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I honestly didn't know who the Goldens were all going
to give the roses to. I thought Leslie and Gary
for sure had a great connection.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I wasn't sure about Kim.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
When I saw the conversations, I honestly thought that Kim
was going to give it to Nancy because their conversation
was so heartwarming.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I saw the whole conversation between by my Faith. Yes, yeah,
Kim and Faith. They just didn't show as like deep
of a conversation I felt. But then after she got
his rose and they had more of a conversation than
I was like, Oh that makes sense, But honestly I was.
I'm happy Faith stayed. I was bummed to see Nancy
(07:53):
go because I've met her multiple times. She is amazing,
and honestly, I think they should make her next Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I agree with you. Nancy and I grew up on
the same lake in Indiana, so I know Nancy well, yeah,
we're like neighbors in a town of ten.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Thousand or she went on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I did not, but I know her family very well,
and her mom and I were co counselors at church
camp for three summers together. Her mom was like, is
one of the most helpful, sweetest ladies. But I always
knew of Nancy. I worked with her son for a summer.
I never knew Nancy until the show. I love Nancy,
(08:32):
but here's the thing with Nancy. She's not I don't
want to say a slow burn because you love her
right away, but I think when it comes to dating
She's intentional and so this this setup didn't really work
for her, kind of coming in being there for a day,
needing to make a connection, kind of needing to put
herself out there and flirt a lot. I think Nancy's
the type. Honestly, she's marriage material with the one that's like,
(08:54):
I'm here, I'm in it. I'm not going to date
around too much. I kind of focus on one person,
and there just wasn't options for her. Yeah, she kind
of ran into an impossible scenario for Nancy.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah, I feel like she's definitely
more of a slow burn. But I would love her
to be a bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh, she'd be terrific as the bachelorette. A little bit
of control. She can, you know, point the conversations in
the right direction. I love her. The big question I
have right now kind of going into this Verst Turow ceremony,
was where is Dale and Kat going to spit out?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How are they going to function? It feels very unhealthy
to me at this point. It still feels unhealthy after
this episode. I know they're getting better, but it feels
like they're getting better by just talking less and I
don't think that's a good thing for a relationship.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Maybe they're not showing all of it, but I feel
like it's been like so much back and forth. I'm
honestly like, I don't know. I wish they would show
some more of the couples that seem to have like
really sturdy connections, because like we've barely seen any of
Jess and Spencer besides the beginning, and like, I mean,
I'm good friends with Jess obviously, like I love her,
(10:09):
but like they're also both so funny, like watching that
we need to be shown more of that. But yeah,
I wasn't sure about Dale and Kat either, And I
think him like he was saying, like, Kat won't open
up to me, and he's like, so maybe Alisha, Like
(10:29):
you could see he was like felt like he was
a little conflicted, did you think so?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I honestly don't think Dale's conflicted. I think he wants Alicia,
and I just think he's nervous to say it. I
think as soon as she walked in, and it was
coming off of the Cat and Dale argument, and from
a viewers standpoint, I'm watching you going he wants to
be with Alicia. He just doesn't know how to do
it without absolutely breaking Kat's heart and making himself look
(10:59):
like like a jerk. So he's not doing it, but
it seems like he's trying to find the reasons and
the excuses and saying she's not opening up to me.
So that's why this relationship isn't going to work. Yeah,
I think if I'm very interested in the previews for
next week where it tests the relationship. When Jesse says,
you know there's connections here, but I know some of
(11:20):
you have eyes for somebody else, I immediately thought of Dale.
I didn't think of Jeremy, even though I know. I immediately
thought of Dale, and I was like I would right now, Daisy, Yeah,
as we sit here, I will put my chips your
jims on the This blows Dale and Cat up. Next week.
Whatever they are planning was designed to blow them up.
(11:43):
Jeremy might have to come and be honest with his
feelings and emotions for Susie, but it's gonna blow Dale
Cat up.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I thought him and Bailey.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I thought because from the previews we've seen before, I
thought it was going to be really bad and like
their relationship was going to blow up with them. From
the preview at the end, it made it seem like
they probably got through it and then all of the
like blowback was on buy in.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, it does seem like that. That's why I think
this is only focused on Dale Kat. The show said,
we need to do something to break them up because
it's not going to be hard to do. Well to
see it's it's a teaser for next episode. I have
no clue, but that's what my mind is going towards.
(12:34):
We did walk into the rose ceremony. The men do
have the roses. As I said, any big surprises for
you here? I know you're friends with Leah as well.
At this point, were you like, Jonathan and Leia are
definitely working.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I thought they were for sure gonna She was gonna
get his rose because like, who else would he give
his rose?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Two?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Also, you know, like they were the only two that
were there that kind of like didn't have like a
strong connection to the people they were talking to. I
feel like so, but then, yeah, he could have also
saved April, but I I don't know, I didn't see
him doing that again because then there would be no
other golden guy there for her, you know, so it
(13:17):
didn't really make sense and it felt like him and
Leo were kind of like they were seen if they
could figure it out.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Was it the right thing for him to do to
give his rose to April? I mean, kind of pay
it forward. She's now in a similar spot that he was.
I don't think so, Okay why.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I just feel like, I mean, April did that to
be like really nice and that kind and obviously, but
I think like everyone at that point probably already knew
that there wasn't going to be another golden guy coming
in because they didn't bring anymore in for the like
however many girls they had there, so and he was
still kind of seeing how him and Leah could go
(13:57):
at that point. So I don't think it was wrong
of him to give his rose Toalaya.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, I don't think so either. I'm with you, mostly
because it felt like a really nice thing for April
to do. But how long can you extend that until
it gets awkward?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
They're going to do them?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, Like it just doesn't really fit, Yeah, because they're
not talking to each other in between times, they're just
like giving out charity roses, And I don't think that's
at all with the show wants, nor is it actually
helpful for the two couples to find somebody.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I definitely I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It brings us to the big moment. So Natasha, April
Nancy go home, and then we see Jesse come in
late at night. Goodness, gracious, it's dark, it looks late.
Everybody's excited because they just got somebody else's rose. Love
is in the air, and Jesse says everything's about to change.
Paradise has been leading up to this moment, Daisy. We've
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been teasing it, we've been hearing about it. We didn't
know what it was. We've heard some type of money,
and now we know it's a half a million dollars,
which we kind of expected. Yeah, after Jesse's announcement that
everything changed, we still don't know a lot about what
is changing. We know there's going to be games and
competitions and different types of things to help relationships maybe
(15:11):
grow stronger. I'm assuming when you said you really got
excited about this episode, this was one of those moments.
Do you like the idea of half a million dollars
being on the line for Paradise or do you like
it better when there's no money and only the gift
of a relationship.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Honestly, I think they needed to add like a different
spin to it. So I think it does make it
fun and it'll be like games and stuff. But I'm
also like, it seems like everyone's getting like more strategic
about it, and I do think for like a lot
of people, it'll be just about the money. I mean,
that's a lot of money, so I feel like as
(15:50):
time goes on, it will like tell more. I'm also like,
I wish they explained bore to us because I feel like, Okay, yeah,
there's like half a million dollar at the end, but like,
are they going to keep weeding away people until there's
one couple standing and then like, can people still like
get engaged at the end? Well? I know I'm guessing
(16:10):
some people do because at the first episode they showed
a teaser of like rings, So I'm like, how is
this all gonna work out? I wish they gave more
clarification on like the game situation, but what do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think they honestly are kind of figuring out as
they go. I really think the show knew that there
was going to be money and knew there was going
to be competitions, but I think they're waiting to see
how relationships evolve. And then they're kind of saying, here's
a competition for this week. Like, for example, they see
Dale and Kat kind of bickering, arguing, Dale saying in
(16:44):
ITMS that he's looking elsewhere, and they say, perfect, this week,
we're going to have a competition that makes couples decide
if they're really in it or if they want somebody else.
So I don't know if they know a lot. I
don't know if there was a big grand plan for
how the competitions would work. Yeah, it's I've been very
against the money. Yeah, I have been very against the
(17:06):
money because I didn't want it to get in their
way of relationships. However, what happened for this first competition
was that people actually started asking each other questions, what
do you like to do for fun? How much money
do you spend on this? What do you know? And
I think that's so healthy for relationships. So my tune
hasn't changed. I still don't know if I love the
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money aspect.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I've still done it without money, honestly.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
One hundred percent. If you just tell a bunch of
reality television people to compete, they will.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, like kept bringing in other people too, Like I
think the fact that they're not bringing in other people
it doesn't make it as exciting for a watcher.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
No, I like to see the new people show up
to the beach. I like to see a little bit
of chaos and drama happened. I think there was this
possibility and they they didn't allow it for whatever reason.
You know, the money, the money is life changing, and
it does make couples refocus. It does put a little
heat on the show and on each competition. But I
(18:08):
did like the couples were connecting again, including faith in Kim.
As you said, at the beginning, you didn't know where
their relationships stood, but we get to see them kind
of following the next day, really having a conversation that
felt like the two of them were seeing eye to
eye more than I've seen really any Golden couple up
to this point.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
No, I feel like it was really like genuine and
cute and it just made me go like, oh, it
was like when I first watched the first season of
The Golden Bachelor, like just how it made your heart
feel like so good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I also loved Leslie and Gary talking on the beach together.
I thought that was so cute. I am bound that
they went home because I love Gary's like commentation.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
On the show. I think it's like so good, hilarious.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And everything's just so good. That he says, I'm bummed
that they're not going to be there anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm bummed too. Now we can talk about this now.
Gary and Leslie were in Tahoe with us this last weekend. Ye,
I don't know if you had a different conversation with
them that I didn't, but you would never like from
our time with them, I would not know if they
were together or not. The Goldens do one thing really well.
They don't share secrets. They don't break in DA's. They
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don't talk about anything that happened on the show, and
to their credit, they didn't. No matter who we are
around or what they were doing, they were saying, can't
talk about it. You have to watch like the typical
cliche things the show tells us to tell people it's ridiculous.
But we saw them together and they weren't distant. But
I would not know if they were best friends who
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at one point dated, or if they're still in a
relationship and hiding it for us. If that's what they
were doing. How tough does that have to be to
be like dating somebody and be distant from them for
three days so that no, but you can.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Tell yeah, definitely extremely difficult. I'm honestly surprised they were
allowed to go on the same trip. But I'm excited
to see I hope they do. You know if they have,
like a reunion show.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't know if they do yet. I have no
idea how we get the update other than social media.
I mean, I'm guessing on social media we're gonna find
out if they are actually dating or not.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I hope they are because being around them, they are
cute together. Yeah, but I will say they did not
lead us into either direction. They were very much in
the middle.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's wild even after a few drinks. It's not like
they got cuddly. But who knows what was happening once
everybody left. I couldn't tell you. It's not my place
to even assume. Well, we do have some strong relationships
forming with the Goldens, Kim and Faith, Gary and Leslie.
We still have Kathy and Keith, which just feel like
two buddies hanging out drinking cocktails together, romance being shown,
(21:01):
but I do love the two of them. Wow, we
have no shockers yet. In the the Young'ins group, Priests
and Brian are still together, Kat and Dale stay together,
Jeremy and Bailey are together, Daisy. We see the prep
for these relationships. As I said, I liked it because
(21:23):
it felt like they were asking each other questions. Yeah,
but it leads us to this competition, which I think
is what we have to dive into next. Yeah, the competition.
It wasn't as glamorous or as highly produced. I thought
these competitions were going to be. Yeah, I agree, it was,
(21:45):
you know, it didn't miss it. Just I felt like,
if you're gonna bring half a million dollars in and
make people do competitions, we're getting like Survivor type competitions.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I thought, I was thinking to you, I was expecting
nank Survivor.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But it's mostly a get to know you game. That's
kind of where we sit, I you know there for me,
there's not a lot to talk about here. Obviously. We
see the Brian and Parsa thing kind of continue, where
it doesn't seem like they're clicking. It seems like they
both just are so mad at each other. I don't
know where their relationship necessarily goes.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, I feel like I don't know. I feel like
it's kind of a mess, honestly.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I mean I feel like Brian kind of expects her
to like react to situations exactly how he like, like
he wants somebody to react like what he thinks is
the perfect reaction. But I'm like, that's not how our
relationship goes. Yeah, and he seems like he tells it.
He's telling her that she's giving him too many compliments
(22:48):
like what.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Ever?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Said that our producer for the show had texted us
saying that Brian was really like getting on her nerves
during this episode. I think he was not only getting
(23:11):
on her nerves, he was getting on a lot of
people's nerves, including the girl that he's romantic with. Yeah, Daisy,
you're in a serious relationship, right, Yeah. Expectations in a
serious relationship are not a healthy thing to have, No,
you know, you just have to kind of throw those
out to one door. Not that somebody doesn't meet your expectations,
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but if you go into every scenario being like I
need you to do this, and this is how I
think this should work, you're just kind of you're honestly
trying to mold the person into maybe somebody they're not.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I mean, you're two different people. You're you're always going
to be two different people. But the thing that makes
it like a good relationship is where you can talk
about those things but also like enjoy the things that
make you different.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I'll be like that.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
This is why I don't like, I don't know, I'm
with you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I totally get it.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I feel like he's like picking her apart, which I
don't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It wouldn't be fun, especially in this environment, to be
picked apart. We do see Bailey and Jeremy when this
date based on a crazy decision that Gary makes. In fact,
Gary and Leslie go home because of this decision he makes.
He is not a good gambler. He got way over confident.
These are the moments Daisy on the show that you
(24:29):
couldn't produce. It just happened, and you go, what in
the world is this person doing? This is going to
be outrageous and he did it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, the three people. I honestly I felt sad for
her because I'm like, I've never met Bailey in person,
but she seems so sweet and just like nice and
authentic from what I've seen of her from Paradise and
I might. And of course they give it to her
because she's like they know they'll get a reaction out
of her. I feel like, but it was sad birr
(25:01):
to do that. I kind of figured she was going
to send one of the Golden people home because when
they were doing I remember, there's a spot where Jeremy
goes he's like, I hate the Goldens are so annoying
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let's pause on that for a second. That was my
next big conversation I would have with you. Where does
that where's that coming from? How do you say the
Goldens are annoying? That seems absolutely not only mean incorrect.
They're the best part of the show so far.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, No, truly they are. And I think I don't know,
it's just like it was just kind of a me
and comment. Also, I'm like, what is he thinking, Like, Oh,
they're like taking away time from me being on the show.
That's like right where my mind went, like, oh, are
you just like saying that because you want more attention
on you?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Here's the other side of that. He says that they're
just always sharing monologues and as you get older, I
think that that's what people do, they kind of, but
here is a different way to look at this. Jeremy,
you aren't doing too great yourself. It hasn't blown up
on you yet, but goodness gracious, I think it's going to.
They might stay together through it. I hope you do.
(26:13):
Love is for everybody. But instead of pushing the Goldens
aside like they are forgotten, which was the whole point
of The Golden Show in general, was to show that
as you get older, you're not forgotten, You're needed, necessary,
and that you deserve the greatest chapter of any chapter
(26:33):
so far, maybe you should start listening to those monologues
for some wisdom, to make you a little better, to
make you learn a little more, because they've been there
and done that, and goodness gracious, son, so far, you're
blowing this thing up behind the scenes and haven't gotten
caught for it yet.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, I totally agree, and I think this next episode
is going to be really interesting. I also think you
can definitely see the tension between Jeremy and Brian. I
think they're like, oh, yeah, we're friends, like he's my friend,
but like but there's always a butt and Mike, you're
definitely like nong freends, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Say that close, You're not that close. If you're good friends,
this would never be coming up. Yeah, you like mutually
have gone to a club together and gotten you know,
bottle service, and you call each other friends. That's not
a real friendship, especially for the previews.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, we do see Bailey get the rose. She kind
of skipping through a bunch of random conversations leading us
up to Bailey's decision at the rose ceremony to not
give Gary and Leslie the rose. One of the things
in between the end of the competition and the final
rose ceremony of this episode is something with Jonathan and Leah.
(27:54):
We see Jonathan Tellcat that he has no romantic feelings
for Leah. You're a friend of hers, so I'm assuming
you've been attuned to her on this show. Yeah, did
you think there was romantic feelings up until this point?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I mean, if you were.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Like to tell me that they would like if someone
because I know Jonathan and I know Leah, and I'm like,
if you were to like tell me that they were together,
I would kind of be like, what, like they're both
amazing people, but I think they're just like very different,
and so when it was happening, but then it seemed
like they were both kind of like, okay, like we're
(28:35):
the last two here, like we might as well like
see how this goes and if something could be there,
And I felt like that was both of them the reaction,
and then I felt like, all of a sudden to
catch Onathan was like, oh no, like we're just friends.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now I can chill in Paradise. And it's like, dude,
you should like say that, just like straight up to Leah.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, I've been with Jonathan. He is a outgoing human.
I you know what he's getting. He's getting this his
journey through Paradise is similar to so many others we've
seen who are outgoing and flirty and not really, in
my opinion, ready to settle down. That's not a knock
(29:16):
on him more than it's just you don't show the
signs of somebody that wants to commit to a relationship
for the next fifty years, of sixty years, seventy years
of your life, and as a result, it does make
him look like he's skipping around to whoever's next and
leading them on and then saying, hey, we're just friends. Right,
He's done it maybe one too many times here. At
(29:37):
some point he has to realize that he is there
because people are interested in being romantic with you. He
can't just get away with being everybody's best friend for
the whole time.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, no, I agree, And I think that's been like
the case. He's definitely just like been best friends and
like tried to make it work, but then not. I
feel like he's been like doubling back on the things
he's been saying. So I don't know, but I love him.
I think he's great, but I just I don't I
didn't know what he was doing there.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, I think he's great also, but he is
I think from the short time I've spent with him,
somebody that probably talks faster than his mind is actually
up like going, and so he says things and probably
does forget that he said it, but he's just kind
of filling the space, and then all of a sudden
he looks back. He's like, oh, dang, I did say that,
didn't shoot. Yeah, this doesn't look good. I don't think
(30:30):
he's like trying to harm Leah. Oh, but she's mad.
Yeah she's mad. Explain yeah she's mad.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And she gets up and walks away.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
She kind of just ends the conversation, and I was like, Okay,
I mean I get it because if she was giving,
if they felt like they were both giving each other
the vibe, it's like that they were going to like see,
like they didn't know, but they were going to see.
And then someone comes up to you and is like no,
like then like I understand. And then she got up
and left. I thought, honestly, I thought the Rose ceremony
(31:04):
was hilarious when she was like when he walked up
and she was welcome and then so.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Good. And here's the best part. She didn't do it
with like a grin or a smile on her face.
She wasn't doing because she thought it would be great TV,
even though I'm sure she didn't know it was going
to be great TV. She did it out of like,
I think it felt very much like her. Is that
her or is this just a moment she was so
angry that she had to do something.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
No, I think she's like I think she was angry
for sure, and I think she was also like I
love her, she just very much herself and I think,
you know, she feels like she should say something.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
She's gonna say it. I loved it. I actually chexted her,
I'm like, I love.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
You so much with a laugh, you know, cheese because
it was like one of those like iconic moments.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So good.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I then like knew it too, you know, like he.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Like was kind of like, uh, yeah, he knew he
has he has. There's nothing in his mind that doesn't
know that he's almost messed this up. Here's a good part.
We get him both next week for the episode, I
think this is going to be hilarious and awesome to watch.
We do see a preview for what it looks like
next week's Really Sees our episode. We obviously talked about
(32:23):
the compatibility test that the show is going to do
with everybody. It is not meant to break couples, let's
be clear, But it is meant to help people pursue
somebody that they might be more interested in than the
person they're currently with. That feels like chaos, and that
feels like it's going to be so hard for the
person in it and so amazing to watch.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Oh, definitely, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I feel like, that's reality TV it's like always so
hard for the bullnet, but it is.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Fun to watch, and it's amazing that I am not
the one there that is the best. You're like, it's
not me, it's not me at all. We do see
something interesting. Bailey seems to be breaking down in tears.
Do you think this is because Jeremy shares with her
what he's been kind of sharing with everybody else, is
(33:11):
that he's actually interested in Susie.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
And I saw her getting upset, like when Brian was
talking to her, and it seemed like Brian said something
that made her angry. And I don't know if it
was Zach because I think she kind of said something
back to Brian if I'm remembering right. Yeah, And it
kind of shows everyone. I feel like the guys are
going to take Jeremy's side, probably because most of them
are like closer with Jeremy from like the vibe I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So we'll see kind of looks like Brian's gonna go down.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It does. Brian says actually a really great line. He says,
the water is heating up here in Paradise, and I'm
the lobster. I think that is going to be very true.
For this next episode. It was a great preview. It
does keep me excited for the next episode. Daisy, is
there anything we didn't cover about this episode that you
wanted to before we close out?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
No, I'm just excited for next week and I think
it'll be good. I feel like now it's getting like interesting,
like more interesting. I love how they're doing like the
little like the change up with the editing and stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So I guess I was getting used to it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I am I'm curious, like what the Bachelor is going
to be like and like the Golden Bachelor, like are
they going to do like a similar vibe or because
I feel like a change up like it somehow, So
I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I think they will. Uh, it's going to be fun
to watch. I am more leaning it is getting more
interesting for me. This episode kind of got me into
it where I'm like, I'm excited to see next week
and I I haven't yet been there with Paradise this season,
but at the end of this episode, and here's the
brutal e side of me coming out, I'm excited to
(35:02):
see what happens next week because I want to see
what drama unfold. As you said, I don't have to
be there. They chose it, and I want to see
what relationships break and how people respond. And I don't
know why, but I love watching it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think also going like through I mean not Paradise,
but being on the Bachelor, and like knowing kind of
how things work and how intense it is when you're there,
I'm like, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's gonna be great. Well, Daisy, thank you for joining us.
Today again we had Daisy Kent with us, co hosting
the almost famous podcast. She's no longer Daisy Kent from
Joey's Seasons. She's Daisy Kent, the co host of a
new iHeart podcast called Dirty Rush. It's out now. Wherever
you can listen to podcasts, make sure you go listen
to it. Check it out. It's gonna be hilarious, it's
(35:50):
gonna be great, it's gonna be weird. I don't I
don't know. I'm actually gonna listen to it tonight on
my walk because I got to see all the behind
the scenes and I have a lot of questions and
so I need a my answer through listening to Dirty Rush.
Wherever you can listen to podcasts. Thank you for joining
us today, Daisy. It is always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Thank you. This is so fun.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Until next time, I've been Ben.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
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or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.
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with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's been with
another recap of Bachelor and Paradise, and this time I've
got a very special guest, a part of the iHeart family,
one of Bachelor Nation's most beloved cast members of all time.
She stole our hearts, she made us cry. She's great.
(00:27):
We were in Tahoe last week and together because we
have some exciting news to talk about before we break
down the episode. Daisy Kent is here from Joey season.
I don't know if anybody really needed to know that.
Of course they knew she was on Joey's season, but
it might have been Daisy and Kelsey season more than Joey.
I don't know if Joey gets the credit for that season.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, the credit.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I love Joey, but his cast was awesome. Daisy. Yeah,
we're breaking down to this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise.
You started out when you got on here you said
I loved this episode, which is awesome because I did
as well. I'm really excited to talk about I have
a lot of feelings. Some things are becoming more clear
to me some things that have been confusing throughout the season.
(01:10):
But before we break it down, I want to talk
about this new show you have coming out that's out Actually,
as I've just been informed, Dirty Rush. Dirty Rush is
the name of the show. I'm gonna let you explain
it to me, but I will say this, The whole
iHeart team that was out with us in Tahoe is
so fired up for this show. They think it's going
to be a massive hit. You're gonna be flying around
(01:32):
in private jets based on this show. Like they think
the world of this show. What is it about? Why
should people listen? I'll just give the floor to you.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I think it's really interesting because Megia and Jen. I
feel like we all have such different backgrounds.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Who are the co hosts? Explain the coasts a little bit?
Because you say g and Jen, they might not know
who that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Gia.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
She's been on like Bravo, her whole life on like
the reel Housewives of New Jersey, and then Jen and
she was also on that, and then me I come
from like the Bachelor ABC side of things.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I think we.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
All have very like we all grew up very differently,
and also like our sorority experiences. I feel like we
went to completely different schools, so we all have something
different to say about it. And I think it's gonna
be cool because from the episodes that we recorded already, yes,
it is about like sororities, and it's about like the
relationships you make in them, also like the crazy things
(02:28):
that happened in them. But it also ties it back
to like growing up and in college is such an
exciting time in your life, but it can also be hard.
So we're there to like give advice and help girls too.
So I think it's gonna be really special all of
the things that were able to do with it, because
college was such a life changing time for me and
that's where I met my best friends, and a lot
(02:51):
of it had to do with meaning a sorority. But
I also didn't love being in a sorority all the time.
So I think that's kind of where my experience comes in,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
From my experience in Greek life, which was very short
lived based on some very unfortunate circumstances that occurred in
my life at the time. It wasn't always pretty, and
I think sororities. When I went to college, I had
this picture of a sorority. They had a lot better
food than the fraternities. There were a lot prettier people
in the fraternities. But if you start like lifting up
(03:25):
the little little bit you can see inside and it's
not always like this wonderful, beautiful experience. Are you talking
about that? Are you sharing the good, the bad, the
uglies or is it just kind of helping people as
they enter into this season.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
No, we're definitely sharing the good, the bad, and the ugly,
and also like the really great things that come out
of it, which I think is what makes this podcast
very special.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I also think I can relate a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
To a lot of different experiences that girls go through
in college, whether being in a sorority or not, because
there was a time when I also wasn't in a sorority.
And so I think it's just going to be a
lot of like fun conversations and anyone can call in
and talk on the podcast, so I think that's really cool,
and you'll be completely anonymous also, So yeah, we just
(04:15):
want to hear people's experiences and give our advice. So
we're excited for everyone to tune in.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's a big uh. It's gonna be a big show.
iHeart is excited about it. Final question for you. You know,
I hear about the Sorority show. I know some of
the content that you were putting out there in Tahoe,
A lot of it seemed to be around prepping to
enter into a sorority or what's it like life in ausrority.
But your listener really ranges from not only those that
(04:44):
are pursuing the idea of a sorority living inside of
a sorority currently, also people in their fifty sixty seventies
who are a part of a sorority. Why would they
listen to this because I know that's a huge demo
that you want to speak to.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think because we have and like we're gonna have
moms on the show to also talk about like being
a mom, and like the pressure that's put on girls
going through the recruitment process and just how like for me,
I had a really really fun time, and I think
part of that was I didn't understand what I was
doing when I was going through it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I knew nothing about a sorority.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But I think it'll be cool for like the moms
to listen and give their side of things because I
know like my mom. She's always told me when I
go through something and it's like great or it's like
really hard, she feels those emotions like ten times more
for me than she's ever felt for herself.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Like, I think a.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Mom's love is just so powerful. So I think hearing
mom's stories and their experiences too is also going to
be great. And also the girls who like weren't in
sororities are the ones who don't want to be in ones.
That's okay too, And I think talking about that also
is really important because I was that way.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Also, it's gonna be a great show. It's called Dirty Rush.
You can find it right now wherever you listen to podcasts.
It's one of our new iHeart Family podcast. Daisy Kent
as a co host. I'm excited for it. A lot
lot of just giddiness in Tahoe around this new launch
of this new show. Now back to our show here
(06:12):
at the Almost Famous podcast to talk about Bachelor and Paradise.
As I said, Daisy is excited to talk about this episode.
I don't know if she liked it or didn't like
it yet, We're gonna get into that as we go.
Daisy also is young enough and relevant enough to have
friends that are currently on the show, so maybe she
can give us an inside glance at what they're they
were experiencing during filming. We're gonna start with this, it's
(06:36):
the Rose Ceremony again. We're kind of starting the episode
one hour to the row ceremony. If you remember from
last week's episode, the men have the roses this week.
This week there's a big kind of in balance when
it comes to the Goldens. There's well six women, three roses,
so three women are gonna be going home. I've been
(06:57):
confused about that now for the last week, don't really
get clarity on it, but we get to see some
relationships form Daisy. Yeah, thoughts at the beginning of this episode,
as we enter into the rose ceremony with who has
the roses and who does it?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I honestly didn't know who the Goldens were all going
to give the roses to. I thought Leslie and Gary
for sure had a great connection.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I wasn't sure about Kim.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
When I saw the conversations, I honestly thought that Kim
was going to give it to Nancy because their conversation
was so heartwarming.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I saw the whole conversation between by my Faith. Yes, yeah,
Kim and Faith. They just didn't show as like deep
of a conversation I felt. But then after she got
his rose and they had more of a conversation than
I was like, Oh that makes sense, But honestly I was.
I'm happy Faith stayed. I was bummed to see Nancy
(07:53):
go because I've met her multiple times. She is amazing,
and honestly, I think they should make her next Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I agree with you. Nancy and I grew up on
the same lake in Indiana, so I know Nancy well, yeah,
we're like neighbors in a town of ten.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Thousand or she went on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I did not, but I know her family very well,
and her mom and I were co counselors at church
camp for three summers together. Her mom was like, is
one of the most helpful, sweetest ladies. But I always
knew of Nancy. I worked with her son for a summer.
I never knew Nancy until the show. I love Nancy,
(08:32):
but here's the thing with Nancy. She's not I don't
want to say a slow burn because you love her
right away, but I think when it comes to dating
She's intentional and so this this setup didn't really work
for her, kind of coming in being there for a day,
needing to make a connection, kind of needing to put
herself out there and flirt a lot. I think Nancy's
the type. Honestly, she's marriage material with the one that's like,
(08:54):
I'm here, I'm in it. I'm not going to date
around too much. I kind of focus on one person,
and there just wasn't options for her. Yeah, she kind
of ran into an impossible scenario for Nancy.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah, I feel like she's definitely
more of a slow burn. But I would love her
to be a bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh, she'd be terrific as the bachelorette. A little bit
of control. She can, you know, point the conversations in
the right direction. I love her. The big question I
have right now kind of going into this Verst Turow ceremony,
was where is Dale and Kat going to spit out?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How are they going to function? It feels very unhealthy
to me at this point. It still feels unhealthy after
this episode. I know they're getting better, but it feels
like they're getting better by just talking less and I
don't think that's a good thing for a relationship.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Maybe they're not showing all of it, but I feel
like it's been like so much back and forth. I'm
honestly like, I don't know. I wish they would show
some more of the couples that seem to have like
really sturdy connections, because like we've barely seen any of
Jess and Spencer besides the beginning, and like, I mean,
I'm good friends with Jess obviously, like I love her,
(10:09):
but like they're also both so funny, like watching that
we need to be shown more of that. But yeah,
I wasn't sure about Dale and Kat either, And I
think him like he was saying, like, Kat won't open
up to me, and he's like, so maybe Alisha, Like
(10:29):
you could see he was like felt like he was
a little conflicted, did you think so?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I honestly don't think Dale's conflicted. I think he wants Alicia,
and I just think he's nervous to say it. I
think as soon as she walked in, and it was
coming off of the Cat and Dale argument, and from
a viewers standpoint, I'm watching you going he wants to
be with Alicia. He just doesn't know how to do
it without absolutely breaking Kat's heart and making himself look
(10:59):
like like a jerk. So he's not doing it, but
it seems like he's trying to find the reasons and
the excuses and saying she's not opening up to me.
So that's why this relationship isn't going to work. Yeah,
I think if I'm very interested in the previews for
next week where it tests the relationship. When Jesse says,
you know there's connections here, but I know some of
(11:20):
you have eyes for somebody else, I immediately thought of Dale.
I didn't think of Jeremy, even though I know. I immediately
thought of Dale, and I was like I would right now, Daisy, Yeah,
as we sit here, I will put my chips your
jims on the This blows Dale and Cat up. Next week.
Whatever they are planning was designed to blow them up.
(11:43):
Jeremy might have to come and be honest with his
feelings and emotions for Susie, but it's gonna blow Dale
Cat up.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I thought him and Bailey.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I thought because from the previews we've seen before, I
thought it was going to be really bad and like
their relationship was going to blow up with them. From
the preview at the end, it made it seem like
they probably got through it and then all of the
like blowback was on buy in.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, it does seem like that. That's why I think
this is only focused on Dale Kat. The show said,
we need to do something to break them up because
it's not going to be hard to do. Well to
see it's it's a teaser for next episode. I have
no clue, but that's what my mind is going towards.
(12:34):
We did walk into the rose ceremony. The men do
have the roses. As I said, any big surprises for
you here? I know you're friends with Leah as well.
At this point, were you like, Jonathan and Leia are
definitely working.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I thought they were for sure gonna She was gonna
get his rose because like, who else would he give
his rose?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Two?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Also, you know, like they were the only two that
were there that kind of like didn't have like a
strong connection to the people they were talking to. I
feel like so, but then, yeah, he could have also
saved April, but I I don't know, I didn't see
him doing that again because then there would be no
other golden guy there for her, you know, so it
(13:17):
didn't really make sense and it felt like him and
Leo were kind of like they were seen if they
could figure it out.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Was it the right thing for him to do to
give his rose to April? I mean, kind of pay
it forward. She's now in a similar spot that he was.
I don't think so, Okay why.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I just feel like, I mean, April did that to
be like really nice and that kind and obviously, but
I think like everyone at that point probably already knew
that there wasn't going to be another golden guy coming
in because they didn't bring anymore in for the like
however many girls they had there, so and he was
still kind of seeing how him and Leah could go
(13:57):
at that point. So I don't think it was wrong
of him to give his rose Toalaya.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, I don't think so either. I'm with you, mostly
because it felt like a really nice thing for April
to do. But how long can you extend that until
it gets awkward?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
They're going to do them?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, Like it just doesn't really fit, Yeah, because they're
not talking to each other in between times, they're just
like giving out charity roses, And I don't think that's
at all with the show wants, nor is it actually
helpful for the two couples to find somebody.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I definitely I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It brings us to the big moment. So Natasha, April
Nancy go home, and then we see Jesse come in
late at night. Goodness, gracious, it's dark, it looks late.
Everybody's excited because they just got somebody else's rose. Love
is in the air, and Jesse says everything's about to change.
Paradise has been leading up to this moment, Daisy. We've
(14:50):
been teasing it, we've been hearing about it. We didn't
know what it was. We've heard some type of money,
and now we know it's a half a million dollars,
which we kind of expected. Yeah, after Jesse's announcement that
everything changed, we still don't know a lot about what
is changing. We know there's going to be games and
competitions and different types of things to help relationships maybe
(15:11):
grow stronger. I'm assuming when you said you really got
excited about this episode, this was one of those moments.
Do you like the idea of half a million dollars
being on the line for Paradise or do you like
it better when there's no money and only the gift
of a relationship.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Honestly, I think they needed to add like a different
spin to it. So I think it does make it
fun and it'll be like games and stuff. But I'm
also like, it seems like everyone's getting like more strategic
about it, and I do think for like a lot
of people, it'll be just about the money. I mean,
that's a lot of money, so I feel like as
(15:50):
time goes on, it will like tell more. I'm also like,
I wish they explained bore to us because I feel like, Okay, yeah,
there's like half a million dollar at the end, but like,
are they going to keep weeding away people until there's
one couple standing and then like, can people still like
get engaged at the end? Well? I know I'm guessing
(16:10):
some people do because at the first episode they showed
a teaser of like rings, So I'm like, how is
this all gonna work out? I wish they gave more
clarification on like the game situation, but what do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think they honestly are kind of figuring out as
they go. I really think the show knew that there
was going to be money and knew there was going
to be competitions, but I think they're waiting to see
how relationships evolve. And then they're kind of saying, here's
a competition for this week. Like, for example, they see
Dale and Kat kind of bickering, arguing, Dale saying in
(16:44):
ITMS that he's looking elsewhere, and they say, perfect, this week,
we're going to have a competition that makes couples decide
if they're really in it or if they want somebody else.
So I don't know if they know a lot. I
don't know if there was a big grand plan for
how the competitions would work. Yeah, it's I've been very
against the money. Yeah, I have been very against the
(17:06):
money because I didn't want it to get in their
way of relationships. However, what happened for this first competition
was that people actually started asking each other questions, what
do you like to do for fun? How much money
do you spend on this? What do you know? And
I think that's so healthy for relationships. So my tune
hasn't changed. I still don't know if I love the
(17:27):
money aspect.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I've still done it without money, honestly.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
One hundred percent. If you just tell a bunch of
reality television people to compete, they will.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, like kept bringing in other people too, Like I
think the fact that they're not bringing in other people
it doesn't make it as exciting for a watcher.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
No, I like to see the new people show up
to the beach. I like to see a little bit
of chaos and drama happened. I think there was this
possibility and they they didn't allow it for whatever reason.
You know, the money, the money is life changing, and
it does make couples refocus. It does put a little
heat on the show and on each competition. But I
(18:08):
did like the couples were connecting again, including faith in Kim.
As you said, at the beginning, you didn't know where
their relationships stood, but we get to see them kind
of following the next day, really having a conversation that
felt like the two of them were seeing eye to
eye more than I've seen really any Golden couple up
to this point.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
No, I feel like it was really like genuine and
cute and it just made me go like, oh, it
was like when I first watched the first season of
The Golden Bachelor, like just how it made your heart
feel like so good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I also loved Leslie and Gary talking on the beach together.
I thought that was so cute. I am bound that
they went home because I love Gary's like commentation.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
On the show. I think it's like so good, hilarious.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And everything's just so good. That he says, I'm bummed
that they're not going to be there anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm bummed too. Now we can talk about this now.
Gary and Leslie were in Tahoe with us this last weekend. Ye,
I don't know if you had a different conversation with
them that I didn't, but you would never like from
our time with them, I would not know if they
were together or not. The Goldens do one thing really well.
They don't share secrets. They don't break in DA's. They
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don't talk about anything that happened on the show, and
to their credit, they didn't. No matter who we are
around or what they were doing, they were saying, can't
talk about it. You have to watch like the typical
cliche things the show tells us to tell people it's ridiculous.
But we saw them together and they weren't distant. But
I would not know if they were best friends who
(19:46):
at one point dated, or if they're still in a
relationship and hiding it for us. If that's what they
were doing. How tough does that have to be to
be like dating somebody and be distant from them for
three days so that no, but you can.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Tell yeah, definitely extremely difficult. I'm honestly surprised they were
allowed to go on the same trip. But I'm excited
to see I hope they do. You know if they have,
like a reunion show.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't know if they do yet. I have no
idea how we get the update other than social media.
I mean, I'm guessing on social media we're gonna find
out if they are actually dating or not.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I hope they are because being around them, they are
cute together. Yeah, but I will say they did not
lead us into either direction. They were very much in
the middle.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's wild even after a few drinks. It's not like
they got cuddly. But who knows what was happening once
everybody left. I couldn't tell you. It's not my place
to even assume. Well, we do have some strong relationships
forming with the Goldens, Kim and Faith, Gary and Leslie.
We still have Kathy and Keith, which just feel like
two buddies hanging out drinking cocktails together, romance being shown,
(21:01):
but I do love the two of them. Wow, we
have no shockers yet. In the the Young'ins group, Priests
and Brian are still together, Kat and Dale stay together,
Jeremy and Bailey are together, Daisy. We see the prep
for these relationships. As I said, I liked it because
(21:23):
it felt like they were asking each other questions. Yeah,
but it leads us to this competition, which I think
is what we have to dive into next. Yeah, the competition.
It wasn't as glamorous or as highly produced. I thought
these competitions were going to be. Yeah, I agree, it was,
(21:45):
you know, it didn't miss it. Just I felt like,
if you're gonna bring half a million dollars in and
make people do competitions, we're getting like Survivor type competitions.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I thought, I was thinking to you, I was expecting
nank Survivor.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But it's mostly a get to know you game. That's
kind of where we sit, I you know there for me,
there's not a lot to talk about here. Obviously. We
see the Brian and Parsa thing kind of continue, where
it doesn't seem like they're clicking. It seems like they
both just are so mad at each other. I don't
know where their relationship necessarily goes.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, I feel like I don't know. I feel like
it's kind of a mess, honestly.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I mean I feel like Brian kind of expects her
to like react to situations exactly how he like, like
he wants somebody to react like what he thinks is
the perfect reaction. But I'm like, that's not how our
relationship goes. Yeah, and he seems like he tells it.
He's telling her that she's giving him too many compliments
(22:48):
like what.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Ever?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Said that our producer for the show had texted us
saying that Brian was really like getting on her nerves
during this episode. I think he was not only getting
(23:11):
on her nerves, he was getting on a lot of
people's nerves, including the girl that he's romantic with. Yeah, Daisy,
you're in a serious relationship, right, Yeah. Expectations in a
serious relationship are not a healthy thing to have, No,
you know, you just have to kind of throw those
out to one door. Not that somebody doesn't meet your expectations,
(23:33):
but if you go into every scenario being like I
need you to do this, and this is how I
think this should work, you're just kind of you're honestly
trying to mold the person into maybe somebody they're not.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I mean, you're two different people. You're you're always going
to be two different people. But the thing that makes
it like a good relationship is where you can talk
about those things but also like enjoy the things that
make you different.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I'll be like that.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
This is why I don't like, I don't know, I'm
with you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I totally get it.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I feel like he's like picking her apart, which I
don't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It wouldn't be fun, especially in this environment, to be
picked apart. We do see Bailey and Jeremy when this
date based on a crazy decision that Gary makes. In fact,
Gary and Leslie go home because of this decision he makes.
He is not a good gambler. He got way over confident.
These are the moments Daisy on the show that you
(24:29):
couldn't produce. It just happened, and you go, what in
the world is this person doing? This is going to
be outrageous and he did it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, the three people. I honestly I felt sad for
her because I'm like, I've never met Bailey in person,
but she seems so sweet and just like nice and
authentic from what I've seen of her from Paradise and
I might. And of course they give it to her
because she's like they know they'll get a reaction out
of her. I feel like, but it was sad birr
(25:01):
to do that. I kind of figured she was going
to send one of the Golden people home because when
they were doing I remember, there's a spot where Jeremy
goes he's like, I hate the Goldens are so annoying
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let's pause on that for a second. That was my
next big conversation I would have with you. Where does
that where's that coming from? How do you say the
Goldens are annoying? That seems absolutely not only mean incorrect.
They're the best part of the show so far.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, No, truly they are. And I think I don't know,
it's just like it was just kind of a me
and comment. Also, I'm like, what is he thinking, Like, Oh,
they're like taking away time from me being on the show.
That's like right where my mind went, like, oh, are
you just like saying that because you want more attention
on you?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Here's the other side of that. He says that they're
just always sharing monologues and as you get older, I
think that that's what people do, they kind of, but
here is a different way to look at this. Jeremy,
you aren't doing too great yourself. It hasn't blown up
on you yet, but goodness gracious, I think it's going to.
They might stay together through it. I hope you do.
(26:13):
Love is for everybody. But instead of pushing the Goldens
aside like they are forgotten, which was the whole point
of The Golden Show in general, was to show that
as you get older, you're not forgotten, You're needed, necessary,
and that you deserve the greatest chapter of any chapter
(26:33):
so far, maybe you should start listening to those monologues
for some wisdom, to make you a little better, to
make you learn a little more, because they've been there
and done that, and goodness gracious, son, so far, you're
blowing this thing up behind the scenes and haven't gotten
caught for it yet.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, I totally agree, and I think this next episode
is going to be really interesting. I also think you
can definitely see the tension between Jeremy and Brian. I
think they're like, oh, yeah, we're friends, like he's my friend,
but like but there's always a butt and Mike, you're
definitely like nong freends, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Say that close, You're not that close. If you're good friends,
this would never be coming up. Yeah, you like mutually
have gone to a club together and gotten you know,
bottle service, and you call each other friends. That's not
a real friendship, especially for the previews.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, we do see Bailey get the rose. She kind
of skipping through a bunch of random conversations leading us
up to Bailey's decision at the rose ceremony to not
give Gary and Leslie the rose. One of the things
in between the end of the competition and the final
rose ceremony of this episode is something with Jonathan and Leah.
(27:54):
We see Jonathan Tellcat that he has no romantic feelings
for Leah. You're a friend of hers, so I'm assuming
you've been attuned to her on this show. Yeah, did
you think there was romantic feelings up until this point?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I mean, if you were.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Like to tell me that they would like if someone
because I know Jonathan and I know Leah, and I'm like,
if you were to like tell me that they were together,
I would kind of be like, what, like they're both
amazing people, but I think they're just like very different,
and so when it was happening, but then it seemed
like they were both kind of like, okay, like we're
(28:35):
the last two here, like we might as well like
see how this goes and if something could be there,
And I felt like that was both of them the reaction,
and then I felt like, all of a sudden to
catch Onathan was like, oh no, like we're just friends.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now I can chill in Paradise. And it's like, dude,
you should like say that, just like straight up to Leah.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, I've been with Jonathan. He is a outgoing human.
I you know what he's getting. He's getting this his
journey through Paradise is similar to so many others we've
seen who are outgoing and flirty and not really, in
my opinion, ready to settle down. That's not a knock
(29:16):
on him more than it's just you don't show the
signs of somebody that wants to commit to a relationship
for the next fifty years, of sixty years, seventy years
of your life, and as a result, it does make
him look like he's skipping around to whoever's next and
leading them on and then saying, hey, we're just friends. Right,
He's done it maybe one too many times here. At
(29:37):
some point he has to realize that he is there
because people are interested in being romantic with you. He
can't just get away with being everybody's best friend for
the whole time.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, no, I agree, And I think that's been like
the case. He's definitely just like been best friends and
like tried to make it work, but then not. I
feel like he's been like doubling back on the things
he's been saying. So I don't know, but I love him.
I think he's great, but I just I don't I
didn't know what he was doing there.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, I think he's great also, but he is
I think from the short time I've spent with him,
somebody that probably talks faster than his mind is actually
up like going, and so he says things and probably
does forget that he said it, but he's just kind
of filling the space, and then all of a sudden
he looks back. He's like, oh, dang, I did say that,
didn't shoot. Yeah, this doesn't look good. I don't think
(30:30):
he's like trying to harm Leah. Oh, but she's mad.
Yeah she's mad. Explain yeah she's mad.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And she gets up and walks away.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
She kind of just ends the conversation, and I was like, Okay,
I mean I get it because if she was giving,
if they felt like they were both giving each other
the vibe, it's like that they were going to like see,
like they didn't know, but they were going to see.
And then someone comes up to you and is like no,
like then like I understand. And then she got up
and left. I thought, honestly, I thought the Rose ceremony
(31:04):
was hilarious when she was like when he walked up
and she was welcome and then so.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Good. And here's the best part. She didn't do it
with like a grin or a smile on her face.
She wasn't doing because she thought it would be great TV,
even though I'm sure she didn't know it was going
to be great TV. She did it out of like,
I think it felt very much like her. Is that
her or is this just a moment she was so
angry that she had to do something.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
No, I think she's like I think she was angry
for sure, and I think she was also like I
love her, she just very much herself and I think,
you know, she feels like she should say something.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
She's gonna say it. I loved it. I actually chexted her,
I'm like, I love.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
You so much with a laugh, you know, cheese because
it was like one of those like iconic moments.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So good.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I then like knew it too, you know, like he.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Like was kind of like, uh, yeah, he knew he
has he has. There's nothing in his mind that doesn't
know that he's almost messed this up. Here's a good part.
We get him both next week for the episode, I
think this is going to be hilarious and awesome to watch.
We do see a preview for what it looks like
next week's Really Sees our episode. We obviously talked about
(32:23):
the compatibility test that the show is going to do
with everybody. It is not meant to break couples, let's
be clear, But it is meant to help people pursue
somebody that they might be more interested in than the
person they're currently with. That feels like chaos, and that
feels like it's going to be so hard for the
person in it and so amazing to watch.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Oh, definitely, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I feel like, that's reality TV it's like always so
hard for the bullnet, but it is.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Fun to watch, and it's amazing that I am not
the one there that is the best. You're like, it's
not me, it's not me at all. We do see
something interesting. Bailey seems to be breaking down in tears.
Do you think this is because Jeremy shares with her
what he's been kind of sharing with everybody else, is
(33:11):
that he's actually interested in Susie.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
And I saw her getting upset, like when Brian was
talking to her, and it seemed like Brian said something
that made her angry. And I don't know if it
was Zach because I think she kind of said something
back to Brian if I'm remembering right. Yeah, And it
kind of shows everyone. I feel like the guys are
going to take Jeremy's side, probably because most of them
are like closer with Jeremy from like the vibe I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So we'll see kind of looks like Brian's gonna go down.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It does. Brian says actually a really great line. He says,
the water is heating up here in Paradise, and I'm
the lobster. I think that is going to be very true.
For this next episode. It was a great preview. It
does keep me excited for the next episode. Daisy, is
there anything we didn't cover about this episode that you
wanted to before we close out?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
No, I'm just excited for next week and I think
it'll be good. I feel like now it's getting like interesting,
like more interesting. I love how they're doing like the
little like the change up with the editing and stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So I guess I was getting used to it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I am I'm curious, like what the Bachelor is going
to be like and like the Golden Bachelor, like are
they going to do like a similar vibe or because
I feel like a change up like it somehow, So
I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I think they will. Uh, it's going to be fun
to watch. I am more leaning it is getting more
interesting for me. This episode kind of got me into
it where I'm like, I'm excited to see next week
and I I haven't yet been there with Paradise this season,
but at the end of this episode, and here's the
brutal e side of me coming out, I'm excited to
(35:02):
see what happens next week because I want to see
what drama unfold. As you said, I don't have to
be there. They chose it, and I want to see
what relationships break and how people respond. And I don't
know why, but I love watching it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think also going like through I mean not Paradise,
but being on the Bachelor, and like knowing kind of
how things work and how intense it is when you're there,
I'm like, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's gonna be great. Well, Daisy, thank you for joining us.
Today again we had Daisy Kent with us, co hosting
the almost famous podcast. She's no longer Daisy Kent from
Joey's Seasons. She's Daisy Kent, the co host of a
new iHeart podcast called Dirty Rush. It's out now. Wherever
you can listen to podcasts, make sure you go listen
to it. Check it out. It's gonna be hilarious, it's
(35:50):
gonna be great, it's gonna be weird. I don't I
don't know. I'm actually gonna listen to it tonight on
my walk because I got to see all the behind
the scenes and I have a lot of questions and
so I need a my answer through listening to Dirty Rush.
Wherever you can listen to podcasts. Thank you for joining
us today, Daisy. It is always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Thank you. This is so fun.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Until next time, I've been Ben.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
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