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Bobby told a story about the time Luke Bryan brought Tim Tebow’s Heisman Trophy over to his house and had his dog, Stanley, lick peanut butter off of it during a rivalry game and the video made ESPN. Plus, QB training guru Jordan Palmer joined Bobby to talk about training Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, what he looks for in a QB to be successful, and more! 

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Speaker 3 (01:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
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at the NFL games.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, that's it, that easy.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I did. And again I will say when we
suck and we lose and we that's why that's mostly
every show. Uh, we did hit, and I did say.
My one bet that I felt absolutely one hundred about
was the Chief's minus fourth to Browns. And then I
started second guessing myself. I'm not gonna lie because everybody
was like, don't bet that one. Then they're getting low,
and then once again started it was over. Yeah, it's

(01:54):
never like twenty one. Nothing never felt more than less
than more sure of myself, more than a five minute period.
So yeah, what I have so many notes, so many
things I want to talk about. Number one, we watched
the Heisman ceremony.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Did you cry?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh, I cried, I really did. I've never cried watching
that thing.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I did not. I did not cry.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
I think it's when when I mean I felt.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Emotional, but I guess I didn't. I don't know, well,
I feel weird.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
He talked about, you know, his dad not being there,
and I just lost my dad. I know you don't have.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Thought it was dad. You know what I thought about
Johnny Johnny Manzelle, And you're right. I don't have a dad,
and that would have resonated. I thought about Johnny from sing.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Johnny the Gorilla. Dude, he's made a huge impact in
your life.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Because Johnny the Gorilla from Singing, he's playing. His dad's
in jail, watching him from jail, and he ends up
breaking out date you know, and sings a cartoon that
I watched because my nephew's like two and it's on
all the time.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Oh, okay, okat, I didn't know what sing was.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, trust me, dude, I don't either. Ye, Johnny's a
gorilla and and you know why. I was thinking of,
like Johnny, you thought that was his situation? Well, no,
but like his dad's what you know, because sure he
gets up and it's talking, you know, to his dad.
That's why I don't know. I just felt like that
was things.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy man. I just like, oh,
that's cool, Travis Hunter.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
And then I was like, did you see the video
that came out of his dad watching?

Speaker 4 (03:20):
No?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I saw today, So where was his.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Dad in jail?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
That's why Johnny and Johnny's playing piano. His dad's watching
from jail.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, oh I gotta watch it.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
No you don't, okay, you do sing?

Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm sure I will eventually.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And Dean says that like, uh, Travis Hunters like don't drink,
don't smoke, like works like dialed in. So he loved that.
For somebody who does.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
That, I didn't know he was engaged too.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And they asked him because they were trying to get
a what do you want to play in the NFL?
They asked him the question after he had won. In
your dreams, are you playing wide receiver or are you
playing cornerback? He's like, am my dreams, man, I'm just fishing.
I just feel like that dude's real, Like it does

(04:07):
a real dude. So and I mentioned maybe off off
Mike off camera to some of you guys, Hey, Kevin,
the Heisman pose? Yeah, can you take your headphones off
and can you show us the Heisman pose in the
middle here? Yeah? Okay everybody, Yeah, you all want to
see it. Yeah, so do the Heisman post.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Go ahead, I go on the stage, on the stage.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
So go ahead and hit it. Yep, you right for
the question. Wow, so that is not that's not right.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
And so it's not right.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And again the trophy, look at the now google the
trophy in my childhood right now.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
No, we we all did it.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah. I brought this up to them. I think we're
working out and I had only learned it somewhat recently.
So why the knee comes up when people do, it's
because Charles Woodson did that when he was like doing
But the real thing, the guy doesn't left his knee up.
He's on the ground on top of the truph.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
It's like just a strider.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, he's just Since Charles Woodson brings his knee up,
everybody thinks that's on the trophy and it's really not interesting.
But there you go.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I thought the same thing. I was like, huh, Kevin.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
We all did it, dude, we all did it.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't feel stupid. I mean you look to we
all did you did? Look good.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
It doesn't feel real though. It doesn't feel natural to
do the actual pose because the stretch is so natural.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
So I encourage everybody to go google the Heisman trophy
and you'll see what the actual heisman posed is, which
is not that knee up in the air, the arm
is out. I've actually held a Heisman trophy before.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
It's heavy.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Tebos really, Luke Brian brought over my house and I
had it at my house for like, so, Luke bryan question,
good question. Luke Brian paid so t Bow auctions his
off every six months to say someone's house. He's been
raised a couple million bucks for stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, And so Luke Bryant at a charity event where
Tebow was paid for it. And so it looks like, hey,
he called me, Hey, can I come over without any
sort of You're like why? I was, Yeah, why, sir?
I got t Bow's heisman. And Georgia and Florida are

(06:22):
playing this week, and I want to do a bit
with your bulldog. And I said, all right, when I
don't have to be there, like Luken, come over and
do whatever with Stanley. I don't care. And he's like
are you home and like two, and I was like yeah,
he goes all right. So Luke drives up as a
big black truck and gets the Heisman out and has

(06:42):
a jar of peanut butter with him and so Georgia,
Luke is a bulldog and they were the gators and
bulldogs are playing. So what he did is he put
peanut butter on the trophy and had Stanley the bulldog
like licking t Bo's trophy and made a video on
his like hey, TAMN, the bulldog's licking on your trophy.

(07:03):
And so.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
You have to be somebody to do something like that.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
It was like at the house for a day and
then Stanley made like ESPN because then they picked up
the video story of it's licking the trophy on ESPN.
By the way, Stanley's a dog. Everybody bulldog. Yeah that
trophy is really heavy.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
It is heavy.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
So yeah, Travis Hunter was holding that like it's not
heavy at all, just kind of waving it around. But
I guess that's how strong he is.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
People were asking me if I who I was gonna
I don't have vote. People think I have a vote.
Really yeah, I don't have a vote. But they were like, hey,
who did you vote for? And I didn't tell him
to have a vote. I was just like Trump's Hunter
because that's who I would have voted for, and I don't.
It's not that I don't think Jenny's awesome. He didn't
play anybody. He played Oregon, Like, if you're gonna win

(07:51):
the Heisman, yeah, you need to play in a P
four for the For the most part, it's like like
Graham Haraldon't won't it Like there are these guys that like,
you play at Hawaii, you're probably not gonna win the
Heisman because your competition's not unless you're playing big boys,
you shouldn't be given the big boy trophy. I thought
it was super close, and he's dominant and he'll probably

(08:12):
dominant next level. But I went back just for fun
and looked at Boise State schedule. Dear God, really they
had They had a few tough games, yes, but they
were sisters of the poor Man, like three death schools,
So you don't win that. You know you should win
the Heisman, not saying he's not a better athlete, worse athlete,
not a better running back or one of the running

(08:32):
backs of all time. You can't win the Heisman whenever
you're not playing other guys that have a possibility to
play in the NFL for the most part, which is
what Travis Hunter was doing. He's playing other P four schools.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
And playing playing both sides of the ball and say
it's such a unique thing.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
And people would be like, well, he wins because he's
playing all the snaps, Well, that's stupid. One of the
interesting things about Travis Hunter and all the snaps he
plays when at times when he doesn't have stats on defense,
is because they will not throw at him. Right, do
you know why they don't throw at him?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Heard of him?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yes, and he still had interceptions and tackles. Thought. I
thought he should have won. It was very close. Good Virginny.
I thought it was awesome. Yeah, cool, Yeah, I was
happy with it all.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Dylan Gabriel just did he get thirst there?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
He got third?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Third? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, Gattibo got fifth, right, Cam wore four, Yeah, Gattabo
got fifth. Yeah. And that the guy the guy from Army.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Oh there was a guy from Army or part of
the running.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Or you see it. I know the logo was really small.
You may look at like seventh bill vision's not that
good anyway, it was somebody with the logo that color
you see f Army color the gold. Yeah, but again
if you look at top ten and then I remember
EDDI said already Army should be in the playoff?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah Army, Yeah that was that was wrong about that?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
What's up that?

Speaker 4 (09:51):
It's a really a good thing. Army didn't go to
the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Who was it?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
It was Army? Bryce and Daily there he got he
was six?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah wow, so oh cool, it's over. Heisman's over. Pretty
happy with with it, don't really care.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Did you bet on the Heisman?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I did not. I did not bet on the Heisman winner.
I did, and I showed you guys yesterday. I put
a substantial amount of money out what I thought was
the easiest money in years, which was the Chiefs, and
I didn't bet to spread. I went straight money line
ye job, because I was like, they're not losing to
the Browns. And they didn't lose to the Browns. Although
started taking something. But then when the Titans go up

(10:29):
seven zero on the Bengals, like there's no way the
Titans can keep up with this, Like Bengals defense sucks, yes,
but there's no way the Titans can keep up. And
so I that money that I lost on Bam, I
just put twenty one hundred bucks on Cincinnati to win
the game once they were down seven zero, which gave
me a bit of better odds. I hit that was
feeling pretty good about it. So I made three thirty

(10:52):
found bucks yesterday. So I'm back on the positives for
the month. And now DraftKings has which Eddie didn't know.
I mean, you guys didn't know.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I had no clue, dude, to change my world.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
You can now look and see where you are for
the month, for the year.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Or for all time, which is the one that like
to me, like this is crazy just to think. I mean,
I've been on draftking since the beginning, so just to
think how much I've won and how much I've put
back and how much I've kept like all that, all
those stats are really cool to look at.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
I wish I could get back into my account to
see that.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Call him dude, I know.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
What, Open it back up, Open it back up?

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Maybe can you read them my status? And then.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh he has them read them too. That's funny.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, until
you sent it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Over after yesterday's winning because I lost all that money
at Bama been twenty one hundred bucks and didn't make
the playoff. Future hit it back yesterday. Now I'm up
on this month about two thousand.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
When I when you sent that text, I thought that
you had created a little graph and I'm like, gosh,
bones are really into this thing.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
I know created.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's funny. I didn't do that, though, but I wish
I wouldever.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
That bean it did?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
You guys see the cow manager tackle the guy that
stole the helmet. What I'd like for you to do, Casey,
while I talk about this, if you'll pull up it's
it'll be on TikTok So Cal the football team. They're
all on the field after the game and a fan
tries to steal a helmet and the cow manager sees
the fans still the helmet and there's a video of
the whole football team watching it back in the film room. Yeah,

(12:22):
and whenever you find it Casey. Let me know, I
think I got it.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I'm just making sure this.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is there's like three weeks ago, right, yeah, because I'll
reset it up again for the oclippy. But if he's
the manager, he's the hero. He's a hero on that
squad now, because the dude's got it. Let me know
when you get it.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I want to see this.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I want to talk about the portal. Oh you have it? Yeah, okay,
So I think it's in like the football playroom, in
like the meeting room. They have it up on the
big screen and all the players are watching it like
they're watching game film. It's after the game. The players
are all on the field and a fan tries to
steal a helmet from cal sideline. The manager sees them

(13:02):
still a helmet, chases them through the crowd and just
rips them, like drops them. Watch that, Eddie, Yeah you
see that. I started he's been waiting for.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
That's the guy running. He's the guy running. He's taking it.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
This power bomb just dropped out and they're breaking down
the film under give.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
A Scholarshow cool? Give him a scholarship.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
The team is so hyped too, because you know they
all know the guy.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
He's messing.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Like. Another note I had to bring up is why
does the WNBA hate Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
It's what happened now, So she gets.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Named like Time magazine Athlete of the Year.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's what it was deservedly.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
So absolutely she she's more famous than ninety eight percent
of NBA players.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Other than lebron kd Steph. I'm just r straight fame. Sure,
Like she's more famous than all but three, four or
five NBA players, just more the most five famous basketball
players in the world. And so they named her like
Time magazine Athlete of the Year. So they had the
owner of the Mystics on and she was going, I

(14:12):
don't know why they couldn't just put the whole WNBA
on the cover. We're all athlete of the Year.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Oh good?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And someone like did the you know on Twitter when
they do the community notes whenever they correct somebody under
the Mystic owner's video, and they were like Kayla Clark's
two games versus the Mystics was almost forty percent of
their entire Wow, ticket purchasing the whole year. Wow, They're
just such haters.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I think it doesn't make sense. Because to us, because
the logical thing is there's a superstar, it's going to
lift the whole league. But when jealousy comes into play,
which is what's happening, it feels a bit different.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
But like I think about in football terms, you know,
a defensive end whoever it might be, sets or a
quarter of for sure, sets the market again and getting paid.
And then they're always like, well, yeah, that's great because
that means we're gonna get paid.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You know, I think far more players in football. You're
talking about twenty two on a side and thirty two
teams and WNBA, what are there like eight teams, twelve
teams whatever it is? Five players each team. And then
here is this white girl from Iowa and everything about
her is different and she has a skill set that

(15:29):
no one else had, or if they have, they weren't.
They didn't get famous for it before. And then I
think there's it's just it's rampant jealousy.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And how long has the WNBA been around?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
By nineties? Huh get started?

Speaker 5 (15:40):
If I'm guessing ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
If I'm guessing yeah, like I guess nineties.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, I'm thinking that's that they lose money.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
They've never made money right ever, And the reason they're
gonna start flying private jets to games and not having
to fly is because of Kayla Clark.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
You're very close keV ninety six even.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Older, So why they just cannot brace that we even are,
We would never have talked about the WNBA was a
Kayla Clark correct.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
That's so true.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
So they're all haters. They're still a haters, uh, Caitlin
Clark forever.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Side note? If I would have bought you at Kaitlin
Clark hoodie, would you absolutely? Okay?

Speaker 8 (16:17):
Dang?

Speaker 4 (16:17):
I thought about it for Christmas, but I didn't get that.
Absolutely got you something else great I saw, and I'm like, gosh,
do I do?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
He's like Angel Reese.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
You got Angel instead.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
One other note I made. I'm rolling through my notes
before we get over to a really good interview. All
the portal chaos happening now, teams losing all the players,
losing some of the players, players in and out, and
everyone's getting mad like, oh, it ain't how it used
to be an agree and is it super annoying?

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
And does it suck?

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
But you want universal you you want the most chaos.
It's absolutely possible if you want there to actually be
some change and some fixes, because if it stays just
kind of messy, nothing sad, we're gonna be changed. You
want it to be so broken that someone has to
step in and put regulations in some of the like
it's only one year and they're out and no team, great,

(17:10):
go crazy. I want it to be such a disaster
that somebody has to step in. Otherwise it's just always
gonna stay somewhat disastrous and annoying. Like I want it
to get so much worse. I want players like the
Vegas guy quarterback who goes mid year I ain't get
paid them out. I want that happening all the time,
because the more that happens, the more someone's finally going
to have to go that this needs to be fixed,

(17:31):
because it will not be fixed until it gets extremely broken.
And that is exactly what's happening now. Let it go
go full frozen, let it go, let it go.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
You need it.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
You need it to be messed up. You want it
to be so messy and people be in and out,
and people poaching players and paying players, and you want
all of it because that's the only way it's gonna
get fixed if it is so messed up that in
cuaa limited power, but they can still say a few things. Lawmakers, universities,

(18:03):
you people are gonna have to come back in and
define what the structure is because right now there is none.
But it's got to get full wild West first. So
who cares team's pulling out of bowl games? I don't
have enough players. Marshall, Yeah, Marshall, yeah, so good. I
hope it gets ugly. Wise man once said, you g

(18:27):
l y. You ain't got no alibi. Oh you ugly? Yeah,
you you ugly.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I've heard that.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
That's some deep stuff, heard that.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
But it does suck and it is annoying. And I
also understand if you're a player, this is the most
money you might ever make your whole life. So of
course it's free market. You put yourself on the market.
Every year. I would if I were a good quarterback,
unless I was making a great check, and I'd be like,
let me just spend a morth against free agent. He'd
be a free agent every year.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
I saw that South Carolina dn the headline. I can't
remember his name, but he's unbelievable stuff, true fresh, and
he re signs with South Carolina for one point five.
I'm like, wait, what new deal? It just looks crazy,
but it's just to your point, it's the new era.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, and every team's gonna have about twenty million bucks
next year, so in the profit sharing you know, call there.
So we need it to be really broken if we
wanted to kind of be fixed again. Otherwise nobody's gonna
invest time in fixing it. What's I was watching the
I think it was a Colorado State coach. He was

(19:27):
talking about how there will be these agents and there's
not they're not even real agents. There's no there is
no an FLPA, right, there's no union, so there are
no rules, so you don't have to be an agent.
And he was talking about people that aren't even agents.
I hones to say it's me. I'll use me as
an example. Let's say Reid's playing for Arkansas State and

(19:48):
I don't even know I just call a school. Let's
say I call University of Arkansas and well, I got
read here, he's a defensive end. If I could get
him into the portal, how much would you give him.
I haven't even told read I'm doing this, but I'm
calling and they're like fifty thousand dollars. I send read
a message, Hey, read box, I give fifty thousand bucks
if you get in the portal. And he's like, what really, really,

(20:09):
Reid had to make no calls, didn't know someone was
making a call. But these agents are making calls trying
to chum up their percentages.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
And not only that, like real agents in professional sports
make two to three percent because you're dealing big contracts.
These agents, because again there are no rules and regulations.
They're making twelve, fifteen to twenty percent big money. So
it's got to get totally effed up before it ever
gets back to normal.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
And so let it go and then in twenty years
a bunch of legal stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's pendulum swings right constantly.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
But like you know, you look at Heisman like Dylan Gabriel,
I don't think probably wouldn't have been a Heisman contender
if you would have stayed in.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oklahoma UCF and then Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, I mean, you know, so like some of that
that's crazy, how like it's changed the trajectory of a
lot of these players.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well, I think the portal and in il and are
all separately. They all can be extremely positive things. It's
kind of the alchemy of the comp boom, and that
is where the trouble is. Yeah, Bonnicks would have never had
a shot bone Nicks. Yeah. I think there are a
lot of times where a player needs a different scenario

(21:24):
or different coaching staff, or has made some mistakes and
needs to get out from underneath. Sure, no problem with it,
But what are the rules? Because there are no rules?
So you know, you sign an IL. There should be
some kind of contract. There should be some kind of union.
There should be a couple of years. You shouldn't be
able to leave every year right now. Leave You should
leave every quarter right now. There should be no rules.

(21:45):
If you didn't get to play that quarter, you're out
of here. Yes, but eventually there will be It will
be more than one year. There will be rules to this,
but there will not be until it's so out of hand.
So there you go. That's my take on them. Thank
you very much. Uh we hit our parlay? Should we sell?
I mean we should celebrate.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
We should celebrate. I got champagne it.

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It's like, right, that's when we win.

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When we're not roll roll baby. I'm so excited about
this weekend's game though, Like the college football games season,
it's gonna be no no, I mean the CFP, Yeah,
sure started that garbage.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Did you enjoy the week off or were you kind
of like itching, been so sick. I'll see you kind
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Speaker 4 (23:25):
More and more more?

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Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, now we're gonna get over and talk with the
former NFL quarterback and he's now known as one of
the best quarterback coaches in the nation, Jordan Palmer. Jordan
has worked and trained and tutored players like Patrick Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Sam Darnold. He has a nutrition
company he just started called Thread Performance. I need to
get on that for myself, although it looks like it's
for kids for yeah, but failure with me, it'd be

(24:41):
pretty good. Check it out thread performance dot com. Big
thanks to Jordan for coming on. Also, Carson Palmer's younger brother,
they played on this team at the same time.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Yeah, point mangles.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, Carson was starter, Jordan was backup. So cool here
he is Jordan Palmer. Hey, Jordan, before I get to
anything else, because I was just watching Josh Allen. I
know Josh Allen, Like that's that's one of the guys, right,
like watching his d.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
N Josh Allen for the Jaguars or the quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I'm assuming the quarterbacks that you're the quarterback guy, right, Okay,
the same page, And Josh Allen for the Jags now
is a new name. It's like he had to add
like a middle name so you didn't get him confused
to it too. Talk about Josh Allen like your guy,
because it has been the maturation of him going the
guy that just throws hard to the guy now that's

(25:29):
running three and throwing three in the same game and
is making it equally as good as decisions Like what
has it been like and why has he been able
to mature so quickly?

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Well, I think he was kind of born to do this.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
And the way that God designed him this is it
was funny. I uh, it was during the draft process
when he was out here and I was doing interviews,
and at this point it sounds funny now, but at
this point in his career, I was trying to like
lobby for him, like I go in the media, go
on the herd, and I'd be like I got the
In fact, I went on the Herd and Colin wanted
to talk about Sam Darnold and he didn't know I

(26:05):
was training Josh, and he goes, well, obviously Josh Allen
kids good, the Wyom kids gonna be a bust. But
let's talk about Sam Darnal. I go, hold on, I
work with him too. Let me let me just try
and sell you on him real quick, right, And so
I was that was kind of like that phase when
all the conversations with Josh during the draft process were
trying to convince people, not convince people, but just representing

(26:25):
his behalf in the media.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
You know, my own words, not his, But how good
are you it gonna be? And all this? And I
did a Sports Illustrated interview.

Speaker 8 (26:33):
And I said, Josh is the best athlete pound for
pound to play the quarterback position.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
And uh. And I doubled down on after his.

Speaker 8 (26:42):
Rookie year when he didn't have a great rookie year,
and I got smoked in the comment section. They put
it on Instagram, they put it on Twitter and stuff
like that, and I got I had a blast just
reading the comments, and I got smoked. And my point was,
this is like the way I don't I don't care
about sporty time, the way he runs, because some guys
run fast forties, but they're not great runners, and some
guys don't run fast forties.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
But they're great runners, right, And.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
That's a different skill than timing yourself to run from
zero to forty yards very quickly. Right, And I go,
he's like at the time, he's like two fifty five.
He's got maybe the best arm I've seen, which is
a strong statement because I've basically seen everybody.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
But he's an elite, dynamic runner.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
He's one of the best runners in the league, like
ball carriers, like biggest threat when you're in the open
field with them. And I made that point, and you
look at the Vics and these other guys lamar, and
it's like, and these guys who've been great runners. And
I'm not saying he's as fast as those guys, but
I'm like, he's got fifty pounds on them. It's not
even the same thing. And so I think that was
always there. And then you go back early with Josh Shellen.

(27:44):
He grew up on a farm. You know, he's got
three siblings. His dad is his idol and super hard working.
So when you grew up on a farm. I used
to make this comment all the time, like, and a
pipe breaks, right, your dad does not call the plumber
when my pipe broke At my house, my dad called
the plumber. I wouldn't even there for it. When you
go up on a farm in the pipe breaks, your
dad wakes up at four am and he goes, wake

(28:04):
up boys, I'm teach you guys how to fix this pipe.
And then the next time it breaks, the dad wakes.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
It up and goes go fix it.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
And so you become a problem solver and you have
to carry heavy things all the time, and you get
up early and you go to bed late, and and
so like I think, like all the things, like the
physical attributes and then the toughness and the work ethic
and all of that stuff, but I think the biggest
thing that Buffalo fans know this now and I don't.
And I think maybe the national media is starting to

(28:31):
see this is as unique as his physical skill set
is and all ourgulays has been. But as unique as
his physical skill set is, his personality is equally as unique.
And I don't mean unique like he's different, I mean
like unique, like like he might be the coolest guy
I've met, like the the nicest friend, the kindest, the

(28:51):
like the most selfless, the funniest, the sharp So like
it's not just like we get so enamored by the highlights,
and it's easy for your eye to go there. But
I I think Buffalo realizes, you know, the fan base now,
the teammates from day one like how cool he is,
and that's relevant to me. It doesn't show up in
the draft process, but it's relevant to me. And then
the last piece is he said multiple coordinators, and right

(29:12):
now he's got a coordinator in Joe Brady. Joe Brady
worked with Sam Darnold in Carolina, who I've worked with,
and worked with Joe Burrow in college who I work with,
and it's like, and Josh is as smart as any
of these guys to come in here and enter into
that room, and so to have the context and these
different coaches go that dude's one of the sharpest dudes
I've been around.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
So it's all three. It's the physical, the mental, and
the emotional.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
You talk about certain things like growing up in skills
that he like Josh had, like working at the farm.
And I'm not sure if you work with Drake May
at all or not, but I'm curious as to certain
quarterbacks are wired certain ways where Drake May his family
like he's got to prove himself within his family much less,
you know, just be the guy that makes it in
the NFL. But if you're like the youngest kid, are

(29:56):
a lot of those home factors do they end up
kind of manifest being themselves on the field. And it
does separate some of those guys by based in what
scenario they lived in growing up.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
One hundred percent. So I'm a father of four.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
I have three boys, nine, six, and two, and then
I have a baby girl.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
So just four months old. I see it right now.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
This morning, my kids play these things called block of roofs,
the little magnet things that you build new assemble and
all that stuff. And my six year old was building
the zip line for his for his action figures, and
then my two year old comes in and smacks it
down and he shoves him on the ground like you
can't push him, and then he pops back up, and
my two year old like gets up off the ground
like ready to square up and fight the six year old,
and like like I'm kidding, but I'm not, Like that's

(30:40):
totally part of it. It's different than like my two
year old's going to grow up with his older brothers
pushing him back and not letting him go. And if
they wants to go ride scooters, he's gonna have to
go fast and catch up. They aren't gonna wait for him. Like,
I totally think that that's relevant, and think about it.
That's going to be his education, Like that's that's how
he's like getting into this world. That's all he's gonna know.

(31:01):
And so Drake may I have been around him quite
a bit. And you know, when you're playing basketball and
you're against your brother who's one older and two like
a d one great basketball player like that, he's not
gonna let you get rebounds, like you're gonna have to
box him out. And so the accumulation of those reps
of fighting for yourself and seeing up for yourself and
getting back up and competing and games to eleven and

(31:24):
you lose eleven zero, and so you can lose eleven
to one, and then eleven two, and then at some
point hopefully it's ten to ten. Got a win by two,
And so I think like the evolution of a kid
growing up with that, I'll argue that's far more valuable
for their development than whatever they're going to learn at school.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
When you're working with a quarterback and Let's use two
different kinds of examples. Like a bon Knicks who uh
went through a lot at Auburn obviously like his dad was,
like the guy at Auburn. So he goes to Auburn
and they kind of ran him out, and so then
he goes to Oregon and succeeds. So he went to
a lot of adversity, and he played a lot of
quarterbacks Anthony like Michael Panics junior right, like got hurt

(32:03):
Indiana Washington. So all this happens with those two kind
of guys. However, and then you take a guy like
a Anthony Richardson who does not play a lot of
snaps at quarterback crazy athletes, but doesn't have a lot
of experience at playing games in college. Will you treat
them differently while training them because of the education that
they have through college and through adversity.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Well, it starts with the evaluation process for me, and
not that I'm going to make some stand outside of
my building and I'm going to evaluate him before I
let them come in. But I want I want to
be right the guys I trained right, You've started the interview.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Asked me about Josh Allens, and I was right.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
On right, So like I want to be right, and
I want what's best for these guys, and I wanted
to reach their potential. But there's a couple of things
where if a guy has anything on this list of
things that I can't help you with, then I don't
know how good that guy's going to be. One of
the things that I look for is context for adversity. Now,
not manu extra diversity, because if you grew up with

(33:02):
a silver spoon in your mouth and everything was easy, like,
I can't fault you for that, right, that was your parents.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
They did that right.

Speaker 8 (33:09):
My brother and I grew up wealthy Orange County kids
in southern California.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Like it's not it's not a knock on me. That's
how I grew up.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
But when I see an athlete who's been through adversity,
and there are a lot of different levels of adversity,
and I look at how they've handled it, that becomes
it becomes like like a process and there's a pattern
that exists there. And so let me show you this.
This is this is my logo. Okay, QB summit, this

(33:40):
is my business. So there's a mountain range, right, this
is your career it's up, it's down, it's up, it's down,
it's up. Like, I haven't seen this career. I don't
know if it's doing this right, go in the top
right corner, right, it might be backwards, Okay, I don't know.
I haven't seen that career right where like they started
off and then they like were the best eighth grade
quarterback ever and then went Tohigh School and they won

(34:00):
the championships and they got millions dollars in the nil
and then they got the gatory thing and they go
to college and then they were like even Trevor Lawrence,
where you his Adidas campaign was number one since day one,
and I met him in eighth grade, so like he
was literally number one. That guy went through a lot
of stuff, a lot of pressure of being the number
one recruit in the country.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Is a sophomore night school.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
When you're fifteen, you don't know anything, And so I
look for guys who've been through adversity to see what
their context is for adversity. And so one of the
things that I love about bo Nix's story, and I
would say Michael Pennix as well. I've spent a lot
of time with bo Is Bo was the kid who
this happened, right, He was like the best middle school kid.
And then he was on Cam Newton's flag football there

(34:37):
seven on seventeen in high school, which basically like his
receivers were like George Pickens and like, you know, a
bunch of the other top recruits in the country, and
he was like the number one recruit in the country.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
I coached them at the Lead eleven.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
I was the coordinator on his team and we lost
in the championship and that and Spencer Rallery was the
MVP and bo Nix was runner up, Like he was
always number one, And he went to Auburn and he
played for at an offense that I don't think you
can succeed in. In Gus Malzan's offense, I think it
was really hard to find success. I didn't like the concepts,
and I don't know about the talent around him because

(35:09):
I don't know how to score it. But like he
was just put in this situation where I don't know
how you can be successful, and so they kind of
ran him out of there, to your point, right, like
they boot him and he's a bust and he's this.
And I did another interview and they said, what is
bo Nix's ceiling? And I said, I don't care what's
been happening with bo Nix. I know how he works,
I know how he plays, I know how he treats

(35:29):
his teammates, I know how he goes about his position.
Like his context is like top ten pick and I
got smoked in the comment section at this time this
guy was transferred. My bad, I was off one pick,
win eleventh or whatever, right, Because my point is like,
put him in a good situation and this guy will thrive.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
And I think he's gonna be offensive review of the year.

Speaker 8 (35:48):
And so when you look at when I look at
a player, and if I was a college coach and
an NFL evaluator looking at it, one of the first
things I need to figure out is what is your
context for adversity? Because look at Trevor Lawrence, right, that
whole crazy career of everything going awesome. Yeah, and then
he had like one of the hardest rookie seasons I've
ever seen a quarterback have. And he's declient of mine, Like,

(36:08):
that was a really difficult rookie year. And so you
better have some context for it, because I don't want
to make you my starting quarterback and then win adversity hits.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
It's the first time you've ever experienced it.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Sam Darnold is an example of professional adversity. Gets drafted
to Jets place for the Panthers, we've now seen those
are two places that quarterbacks go to die for the
most part, gets to go be with forty nine ers
and now he's killing it with Minnesota. Is that a
guy that had been through it? Or did he have
to develop this callus once he got pro I think.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
I think a lot of it is the way that
Sam's raised very very hard working parents, and he grew
up in southern California. So I think people think that
he's a surfer and was rich, and that's that's not
the case, but very blue collar, very humble.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
And I met him when he was four team and
and so he goes to SC and they weren't really
developing quarterbacks there at that point, in my opinion. He
just kind of ran around and made plays and and
uh and he had this crazy reds you freshman year
where he routed off nine straight and was rose bowm BP.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
We probably all remember that.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
You know that he came became Sam Darnold, that game
and then followed it up and had a decent year,
but good enough to be the third pick in the draft.
And yeah, I was nervous the whole way through knowing
that that was the floor in the draft for him
at three because for all the reasons, I'm not going
to educate you on how the Jets have struggled to
develop quarterbacks, but but yeah, I was put in a really,

(37:41):
I think, an impossible situation to succeed, not really given
anything other than new coordinators every year. And if you
look at it too, he got coaches who didn't get
jobs after that, right, Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
If Adam yeah Gas is not. I don't think a.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Role back to college.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
So, and then the part that nobody catches is probably
four years ago.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
He's in Carolina and it was the year when they
traded Christian. So Christian got hurt Week four at Houston.
I was at that game through the first three games
of that year. Joe Brady was his coordinator. Joe Brady's
the coordinator of the Bills. Now Sam was rolling, playing
great football, and they built the whole offense around Christian.
But I'm not saying he was playing great because he

(38:26):
was handed a lot of Christian every play. I'm saying
like he was no, he looked great, and then Christian
got hurt and then they just really struggled to have
an identity. You know, Robbie Chosen was his main receiver
and you know what I mean. So it was just
a tough situation and the year unraveled on him. And
then Matt Rule came in, and then Baker Mayfield came in,
and then Cam Newton came in, and it.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Was just like, well, here's how to not develop a quarterback.
And then.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
Coming out of there, he goes to Sam Fran. And
it was a smart move to go to Sam Fran
because my point that I made to him, I help
guys out in free agency all the time, just making decisions,
is I said, Sam, you've never had context for being
in a winning locker room. You've never been around a
bunch of guys where every single person you look at
as a winner, and just everyone in the NFL is
not a winner. And so going to San Fran, I'll

(39:11):
get to Kyle Shanahan the second, but in San Fran
and I don't care what the record is right now,
these guys for the last four years have either been
to the NFC Title Game in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Right.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
So when you the San Francisco forty nine ers, the
best players on the team, if I said rank the
best players, those are also like I don't know where
Devo's on that list, but everybody else like is also
the hardest working, most bought in guy, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, juice,
you know what I mean, the left ackle like Bosa.
So that's a team where the best players are also

(39:41):
the most bought in. And that's not true. I can
speak from experience. That is not true everywhere. And so
to go and immerse yourself and not have to be
the vocal leader, to sit back. And by the way,
Rock Purdy super hard working, super bought in, one of
the best players on the team. Right, So when you
look at it, get to go be around that a year,
and by the way, go to the Super Bowl and

(40:03):
Watchbrock pretty play and then get to the Kyle Shanahan
how much you learn and they might run the exact
same concept he's ran before, but Kyle explains it differently
or sow's this different angle, and it's like, oh, man,
I never even though about That's easier to think about
it like that, Kyle's just a fantastic teacher, and so
to go and get to do that and sharpen it
kind of in the quiet, like in the dark, nobody's watching,
nobody was watching Sam Darnald last year, to then put

(40:25):
him in a position to be in a situation where
now he's the guy and has a lot of those
same things. Those players in Minnesota are really bought in.
That coaching staff's phenomenal across the ward, it's a great culture.
And then to play for a coach who played the
position two coaches, because Josh McCown is his quarterback coach.
I don't think it's magic. I don't think it's luck,
and I don't think it's just justin Jefferson. I think

(40:48):
it's a combination of Sam weathering the storm of six
years of kind of getting punched in the stomach and
remaining neutral about it, not getting too high or too low.
So from a sport psychology perspective, remaining very neutral. He's
a very neutral thinker. It's something I teach and I
always tell guys like Sam who are really talented, really
bought in work hard. I just say, look, in my experience,

(41:11):
there will be a time and a place where all
you have to do is play to the best of
your ability, and you will be in every game with
a chance to make a Roundia. That's a verbatim quote,
And I've been telling him that for about five years,
and he's now in a place where all he has
to do is play the best of visibilities and they're
going to be in every single game with a chance
to make around the end.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
What's the advice should you give a guy like a
let's say, a cam Ward or a Shot or or
any of the guys going in even last year, and
you know they're going into a situation that Cleveland or
the Raiders that don't have a history at least in
the past few years of developing a quarterback, and it
doesn't look like they'll be surrounded by the best, Like,
how do you keep their heads on straight?

Speaker 6 (41:55):
Well, it's a great question.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
It can feel the narrative can feel like a dead end, right,
like Cleveland took me. I mean my brother contact here.
My brother was drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals number one.
Fact right, so like and and this is when he
talked about this. So my brother won the Heisman and
he was in New York and he did the media

(42:19):
tour and so I think it was CBS was there
at the time, and then people were James Brown, who's
shout out James Brown and the greatest guys on TV ever,
and Chris Simms and whoever else, and then Boomera Sison
and Boomer Sison was a quarterback for the Bengals a
long time ago like that.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
He was the greatest Bengals quarterback before.

Speaker 8 (42:38):
My brother, then before Joe Brow right, and and so
he wins to the Heisman. He goes there and kind
of locked my brother up to be. Then I'm one
back at that point and he's doing the interview and
everyone's like, oh, yeah, congratulations, So tell me about what
you're gonna do, you know, doing the whole deal, and
boomeracides and hand them's the handsom of Bengals helmet, and
he goes, congratulations and welcome to the Cincinnati Bengals where
quarterbacks come to die. And that really stuck with my

(42:59):
brother because Boomer is like a really sharp, credible, good guy,
you know, like he's not like he's not a lightning rod,
you know, and that that that comment I think sat
with my brother for a while. And I'm not speaking
for him, but like I know that was the thing.
And and and then what happened is the narrative kind
of came out. And then you hear about them all

(43:19):
the time and all these problems. But here's the antidote
for that. Joe Burrow heard those exact same things.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Right.

Speaker 8 (43:26):
I trained Joe for the draft, and he's climbed out
like he was the number one pick. The Bengals are
gonna take him. They weren't going to move off the pick.
Anybody could have.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Traded anything, they weren't going to do it right.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
And he went to the Super Bowl his second year
there off of an acl And so if I'm talking
to Shadur or Cam, I go the narrative is the narrative.
Let's say it's Cleveland or the Raiders. Okay, the narrative
is the narrative, but you create the narrative moving forward.
So I talk a lot about neutral thinking. One of
my best friends he passed away a couple of years ago,
Trevor Moad was arguably the top performance psychologist in the world,

(43:58):
and he had a really interesting perspective on explaining how
the past doesn't have to have anything to do with
the future, Like like you can't prove that it does. Now,
we can take the momentum of something that's happened, how
terrible everything's gone, how awesome everything's gone. We can take
that momentum into the next thing. But it doesn't have

(44:21):
to have anything to do with that. And so the
ability to reset, whether it's Sam Darnold resetting personally each year,
or Joe Burrow going to the Bengals going, look, I
know how things have gone, but that's not how they're
gonna go or it should, or cam or whoever going
going to Cleveland, going to whoever it is, and like
that past doesn't have to have anything to do with it.
The last piece of advice I give guys when they
come in is you're going to be celebrated so much

(44:42):
for all that you do during the draft process. You're
going to see your own highlights all the time on TV,
all the time on social media. You better be damn
sure that you are consciously, almost almost like through a
level of paranoia, trying to address the things that you
can actually fix right now, the things that you can
improve on, because it's so easy to go through the
motions and then go get draft and make be so

(45:04):
set on the draft or the Shrine Bowl or the
you know, combine or my workout. You can get so
set on these individual events that are ahead of you
that you better be damn sure be focusing on what
do I need to fix right now that work for
me in college that will not work next year? Who
can I have around me who's going to point those
things out? And how do I obsess over those things?
Because once the draft happens and you put that hat on,

(45:26):
and now you're like a bear or whatever, like it
doesn't matter. Now you're just a quarterback and expected to
play at a high level.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Final three questions. And I do want to talk about
Patrick Mahomes for a second. Not sure when you started
working with or tutoring Patrick Mahomes. And maybe it was
a Texas Tech maybe once again in the NFL. But
when he was at Tech, Tech was fine, five hundred team,
you know, a little blow sometimes game over, Like what's
the difference in Mahomes at Tech and Mahomes with Kansas City?

(45:58):
Is it Andy Reid? Is it? Like where did he
hit his maturation what's the difference now, Bobby.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
That is such a good question. Nobody has ever asked
me that question. Here's my answer. I don't think a
whole lot. And I'm one of the few guys at
w Washington playing in college. Their defense they couldn't stop anyway.
He had to score fifty five.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Points a game. I went to one of his games.
My brother was a season opener.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
He was playing for the Cardinals and they were hosting
the Patriots on Sunday night football Week one, and it
was one of the games when Brady was suspended the
first four games this season and Pat was playing at
ASU on Saturday. I was like, Oh, perfect, I'll come
in early. I'll go watch Pat. I've been friends with Kingsbury,
his coach at the time, who's oc in Washington now,
with friends of him forever. I'm like, oh, dude, be great.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
So I go there. I bring my son him on
the sidelines.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
I'm watching warm ups, watch the game, and the running
back for Arizona State, Keeland Bilage, had seven touchdowns.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
In that game.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
The only reason, the only thing I remember about it,
and I think Pat scored like forty nine points and lost.
That was his whole career when you know that your
defense is and I played this way in college too,
we have to score a lot of points to win.
And what happens is a couple of things when you
are in a situation and I'll say in high school
that's fine too, where you know you got to score

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a'll make up a number forty five points to win today, Okay,
Like we're not going to win seventeen to ten, okay,
because they're going to score thirty five. What happens is
you have to be uber aggressive. You also can't turn
it over. If you turn it over, you have to
assume they're going to score. So a pick is like
minus seven, right if you're playing math in your head,
and so you have to be concerned. You have to

(47:30):
be aggressive, but you have to be somewhat conservative on
taking chances. So you got to go after it. But
you can't just throw it up, right. You can't take sacks,
you can't take get holding penalties. So how you scramble?
So what happens is is pat played in like thirty
forty games like that, and so this run and shoot,
go go, go, score, score score. And I would say

(47:52):
at the time, Texas Tech was as innovative on offense
as anybody in college in the passing game. And I
would say now Andy Reid is as innovative as anybody
in the passing.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
In the NFL.

Speaker 8 (48:00):
So that part didn't change, not comparing those two coaches,
but like that part didn't change.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
I don't think his work ethic changed. And he's always
been a hard worker.

Speaker 8 (48:09):
And confidence wise for him to sit that first year
and then his first year playing and throws like fifty touchdowns,
Like we're celebrating guys throwing thirty five right now, You're
like fifty for his year.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
So all that needed to.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
Happen was the confidence to translate it from the Big twelve,
which is irrelevant football at the time, to the AFC West,
which is relevant football at the time. That was the
thing that needed to happen. And I think there's a
lot of pieces. I think the normalcy of his life
of same. You know, he's married, his wife has been
the same girlfriend, He's got the same circle of people.
He's got a same trainer, Bobby Stroupe, who does does

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good a job of anybody getting their athlete. I'm sure he's
with Bobby right now working on this ankle as we
record this, So I think he's kept his his nucleus,
his core the same. His confidence is obviously he think
he's one of the best athletes on the planet. But
I think that's the part that have I don't think
anything changed. I don't think he got way better. And

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again we're talking about a guy who went tenth overall
that if we redrafted one thousand percent of people would
say he was the number one pick.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
So like, it's not he This is not a sixth
rounder that somebody found.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
It feels a bit parallel to what Burrow's going through.
Now what you're talking about Mahomes and College, where minus
seven is an interception where Burrow's got to score every
every freaking driver, They're going to lose the game.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Yeah, well he's scoring every single drive and they are
losing the game.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah even then, I know, I know, crazy, crazy.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah, job. I was gonna ask you, Jordan real quick
about backups and what's the mindset when a backup is
called in to take over. And they always say, oh,
they're always ready, like you got to stay ready, But realistically,
is it like I'm just gonna hand off the ball
four times and just see what happens, or let's I'm
going to be a hero here.

Speaker 8 (49:53):
Yeah, that's a great question. So I think there's a
couple of ways that a backup enters the game. Okay,
let's say let's say like like in.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
The middle of the game, you go in.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
Okay, So one is you're up big, so you are
going to do what you said, You're gonna go in.
You're gonna had the ball off and take some knees.
In fact, it's funny. Last year, Sam Donald was the
backup in the Niners, and Kyle Allen, who's with the
Steelers now, was the backup to Josh Allen in Buffalo.
And Sam Donald, Josh Allen, and Kyle Allen all did

(50:22):
draft prep together and they all live down the street
down here, really close to me, and.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
They're best friends.

Speaker 8 (50:28):
And there was this we had a whiteboard in our
office and we were because Kyle Allen kept going in
at the end of Bills games when they're up, and
Sam Donald kept going in at the Niner games, and
they kept taking knees. We had this like toggle over
who is going to have more negative rushing yards of
the year.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
It was hilarious.

Speaker 8 (50:43):
I think it was like ended up like fourteen to twelve.
But it was like the text game is pretty funny.
But so you enter into a game because you're down
big or you're up big, right, those are natural, but
you also enter in because the starter got hurt. Now,
there's two ways of getting hurt. There's temporarily hurt, okay,
like he's going to go to the blue tents, or

(51:04):
they're gonna change, they're gonna tape it up, right, But
you're only in for like a series or a play, right,
Like Sam Donald got.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Hurt this year, Nick Mullins went in, threw a scene
down the faide, down the sideline, and then Sam Donald
jogged back in.

Speaker 8 (51:17):
Right, So you temporarily go in the hardest way for
a backup to go in is when the starting quarterback.
You know right now that is a season ending injury.
And I am now the starting quarterback of this team.
There's nobody behind me, there's nowhere to turn to, and
it's my turnout. And Jake Browning is a client of mine,
and Jake Browning is the backup to Joe Burrow. And
last year he competed with Trevor Simeon for the backup

(51:38):
job he had been on practical for three years and
played a snap in the in the game and Joe
Burrow hurt his wrists Baltimore and the first play they
ran with Jake Browning was a fake toss to the
right role left a rolls left backward basically backside flips
his hips and whips an over out to trender when
coming across the field and freaking dying.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
And I was like, he's gonna be just fine. And
for the next five games.

Speaker 8 (52:01):
I think, statistically speaking, Jake Browning's first five starts are
the best in NFL history. And so what's really impressive
to me is when a backup comes in because it's
not just Joke's hurt. One, Oh my gosh, that's one
of my best buddies. Sure he's hurt. The other thing
is like, okay, the what's the series?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
You know? Okay, what do you call a next play?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (52:20):
Like, there's the right now, and then there's this emotional
state that you're stepping into, going like, oh, I'm the
quarterback moving forward and there's some practice.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
Quadgram behind me, but like I'm the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (52:31):
And that's I think when a guy does that and
does it well, like Jake Browning. I immediately go, I
don't care how big you are, I don't care how
fast you are, I.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
Don't care how strong you are.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
You can start in this league because that's harder than
having an entire offseason of preparation with those guys then going.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
In and playing before you came home. We were talking
about thread Performance where we were just talking about some
of the stuff, some of the products there. But I
was debating if I'm playing flag football in like erect league,
if it would help me.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Yeah. Do you have any kids, buddy.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
No, not yet.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Okay, so they all do.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
They all have boys to play, so you can talk
to them about that. But I'll fig out myself. I
mean selfish, like you know you can work for me.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
Yeah. Absolutely. So everything that's in there is great for us.
But it's pretty crazy. I'm a bit of an entrepreneur.
I can see, Bobby, is your ring? Is it metal
or is it rubber?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Well, this one's rubbert because I do play a lot
of ball. I know ball and a play ball, so
I got to keep it rubber.

Speaker 8 (53:25):
So my buddies and I created the silicon' wedding ring category.
We launched a company called kalo q a l O.
I was playing still at the time. Me and my
high school wide receiver, Taylor Holiday, and our two partners
started it and it ended up going nuts.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
It's kind of why I retired.

Speaker 8 (53:43):
I retired because nobody wanted me, but I had a
chance to go play somewhere. But I had to like
decide between best and my equity or not, and we
ended up. By the time we sold that company, we
sold just under two hundred million dollars worth of rings,
and so I started that and then we spun that
into a digital marketing agency. And this is like two
nine twenty ten, right at the beginning of e commerce,
when people started advertising on Facebook.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
So there was a.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
Point when I thought that we had actually spent more
money than anybody on Facebook. And so we launched an
agency and grew to one hundred and thirty employees.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
And that's what I did every day. I'd coach quarterbacks
on the side.

Speaker 8 (54:16):
In fact, when I did Josh Allen, Sam Donald Collin
on strap prep, like, I would leave the field at
ten thirty and go to work. And in that process
I had a lot of nutrition companies as clients. I
ran business development, so I'd always deal with the founder.
But I wasn't like in the ad account and so
I saw some clowns build some big companies, and I
saw some great products just not being marketed the right way.

(54:37):
And I just I had a lot of experience from
a from a marketing perspective and from an entrepreneur's eyes
to the founder's eyes of nutrition companies.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
But it was interesting. That was it for me. I
was a pro athlete, so I know what my body
needs and doesn't need.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
But now working with so many quarterbacks and for the
last five years, I sold that back to the agency,
back to my partners five years ago and I've been
doing this full time. I get a lot of the
same questions. I'm a consultant, so consultants get a lot
of the same questions. You know, my elbow hurts, the
coaches a jerk, you know, the same kind of the way.
How does she go about recruiting? Should we transfer not?

(55:12):
How do I pick an agent? But one of the
questions I got is what should I feed my kid?
And I just didn't like my answers. I didn't feel
like I knew what to tell them. I've got two
close friends. You may know him Bobby. They live in Nashville.
Do you know doctor Josh Actxe who owns Ancient Nutrition.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I think I may have done some work with doctor
with the doc when I injured myself at one point
had to ask him for a little consultation.

Speaker 8 (55:33):
So he's I would say that him and Jordan Ruben
are they own Ancient Nutrition and before that, Jordan Ruben
sold Garden of Life for like one point two billion.
I would say that they're like the thought leaders in
space when it comes to holistic eating.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I don't know the billion guy. I don't know any billionaire,
so I don't buy that one.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (55:48):
Yeah, I know, yeah, and ancient nutrition is that big
too now? But I just went to them as friends,
but like, hey, what shoud I tell people? And I
was blown away with how little I knew about puberty
and specific I go, these are young kids, so what
should kids go intrough puberty take? And I like, if
they would have quizzed me in that first conversation, I
would have got a net And I'm like, well that
doesn't make sense. People pay me a lot of money

(56:09):
to help advise them, and I don't. I'm not even
I can't even advise them on something that you could
argue is more relevant than anything.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
I'm gonna tell them.

Speaker 8 (56:15):
And I told my now partner Clark, who lives out
in the grove by you, and I said, hey, it's
super interesting. I've been learning a lot about this. And
he called me the next day he goes, I didn't
sleep last night. I stayed up all night. There's not
a single company making products for those for that kid,
for that demographic, and so we spent a lot of
time researching. We hired a great formulators to come in

(56:38):
and build products very specifically designed for athletes with developing bodies.
And we are off to a very hot start. We
launched three months ago. I've been very well received and
so we got three products. One of them is a powder.
It's a daily pack see in my video right here,
and so like this is daily fuel. Mix it with water,
it's even better with almond milk, throwing a smoothie. You

(57:00):
have collagen, very specific types of collagen one, five and
ten from for men to Digshoman brain, but for kids
ligament and tended strength and fashion repair is huge when
you're going to puberty. Bobby, for you and I, same
thing got stork, same thing. Not all collagens the same.
But then there's also grass fed wave protein. We have
probiotics in here. We have a mushroom blend about Shrogonda

(57:22):
and Lion's made and a few others. All your daily
greens and all your daily vitamins. So if as a
mom and you put this in your kids backpack and
they mix it with water and they drink it like
you just checked every box for the day, like you
can feel better. And then the other two products we
have are capsules. One is for energy, but it's not
B twelve over you know, caffeine. It's really about muscle oxygenation.

(57:44):
And a mushroom blend that helps with focus because kids
don't need a spike and energy at two o'clock in
the afternoon like you and I do. What they need
is sustained focus and energy and blood oxygenation so that
they recover quicker because they got to sit in class,
go to recess, sit in class, get out, go to practice,
come home to eat homer or eat dinner, do their homework,
finish their project, and go to bed. And then they

(58:06):
got to repeat it and uh, and so we have
a product for that. And then The last one is
for strength gains, not even just wait gain, but strength
gain and it's actually completely botanical.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
And uh, and we have these crazy results.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
We partner with this company, rip Factor, and we see
crazy results that their studies are like, I think it's
like two point four x like strength gains with your
lower body and like two point six with your upper body.
It's like crazy results. And we are getting those emails
back now. We are hearing moms say, oh my goodness.
So we came out with three products. We've got more
for boys and girls. Bobby, you and I take I
take it every day. It's it's great. It's great stuff.

(58:41):
It's not you know, it's not kids gummies. But I
think you know our sale it's been an incredible start
for our launch. But some of these emails are getting
from parents of like, I can notice the difference of
my kid and their focus is different and all that.
And we've got a lot more products coming out in
the hopper, very specifically when we get into girls.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
Girls are a lot more likely to tarry.

Speaker 8 (59:01):
A ligament when they're on their cycle, and so we've
got some products coming out and hydration and so we
think this is a worthy market. We raise money very
quickly from some awesome people who are very strategic, and
it's been a great start for Thread Performance.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
And I think.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
It's a good time in our country to be to
have a company that makes healthy things for kids too,
because I think we're going to see a lot more
people waking up to what they have been giving their
kids or what their parents gave them when they were little.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
And we'll put all the information in the notes, but
threadperformance dot com to find all the products. We're talking
about it earlier as well. And then also the quarterback
Room podcast and I encourage people to check that out.
It's quarterbacks talking talking quarterback. It's an awesome show. Love
you know, taking in your content just in general. Jordan,
I really appreciate the time today, may so thank you
for spending a few minutes with us.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
Yeah, thanks for having me. This was great.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
H Right, Jordan, thanks man?

Speaker 6 (59:54):
Are we off?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
We're off? Bobby, Yes, sir.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
It didn't hit me.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
Didn't hit me until so I apologize this was set
up and I, like I said, I just got back
last night, and then I've been off work for a week,
so looking at a pile of stuff over there, and
then I saw your book Bare Bones, and I go, oh,
my gosh, Bobby Bones. I very rarely did I ever
miss an American Idol season from the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Start, from the start, that's fun.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
I was in college in my roommate, I would watch it.
It was when direct TV first came out and we
could TiVo it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That's fun.

Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
And I've always loved it and I've known Luke and
you know what I mean, Like, Bryan, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Know that's that's really funny.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
Hit me for a second because because I just didn't
think I didn't I didn't put you in the sports bucket,
I know, but I know I know exactly who you are.
Incredible time, got some amazing career.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oh thanks man, it's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
Hit me like halfway through.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
I do I do a show with Castle as well?
In that Castle and so and the Castle the same way.
We're talking about stuff and he's like, wait, and he
was over at the house and he was like, you
won Dancing with the Stars. He goes, I watched that
show all the time, and I had the trophy there
and I was like, I would not expect you to
watch Idol or him to watch Dancing with the Stars.
But it's like here, I am baby, I do all
the things that uh well didn't get me. Girls then

(01:01:08):
either sons man.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
You know who watches Dancing with the Stars of the
missed one is uh is Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfield.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:17):
My wife and I've been We've my wife and I
love those. Those are the only shows we really watch.
So I haven't watched DWTS like the last couple of years,
but but we went. I saw Adele perform at Dancing
with the Stars, and that was like my date night.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
I live in Orange County, so my wife and I
would go up and be like, hey, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
And go to the ballroom.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
We go to the ballroom and super fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Yeah, it's intense.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
I'm not I'm not there to like meet famous people
and take pressure.

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
It's like, No, we watched the show and we'd let
it like let it get down to like five or six,
and then we'd like go to a show and we'd
go to dinner in l A and we'd stay in
the hotel. That was like our fun date night. And
then The Bachelor and Basseret's the other one. I've been
to multiple final rows. Kyle Allen, this is a great one.
It was all for the internet, So for two guys
that are not famous, it was all over the internet.

(01:02:03):
So Kyle and I went and and oh why am
I drawn a blank on his name? Chris Chris is
like Chris Chris Harrison is like a big football fan. Yeah,
he's a big football fan. And so he'd come down
and getten down and watch my guys work out and
stuff like that, just nerd out on football. And so
I go a, hey, I want to come up to
the Thunna rows. So he sets us up and he's like, hey,

(01:02:25):
do you guys got good seats? You guys want to
sit there? Or do you want to sit here? But
if you sit here, you're gonna be like right behind
the two chairs the whole show. I was like, yeah,
right there, and Kyle Allen had vizine and so Kyle
and I in between we're scorting by Zene in our
eyes and we were just trying to get on camera
making it look like we were crying reacting to what
was happening.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
There's a great clip of the two of us but
like behind right behind the chairs. So that's a super
bad big fan of what you do. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Thanks man, Thank you again, Thank you for the time,
and hopefully i'll see in real live sometime.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Yeah. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Christmas is coming up, So Eddie, here's what I have.
And I don't care if it's for you to say
it's from you to your boys or if you say
it's from media boys, I don't care. Okay, but I've
been saving these, so I have a Jason went and
signed Jersey. WHOA, Well, they're all cowboys because I know
some of your your boys don't want to be cowboys
fans as much as others.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Yeah no, but this will help. Okay, I think eventually
they will. But right, Oh my goodness its Jersey Jersey.
Uh check it out phones. That is awesome. Oh my goodness.
Do I have to give them to my kids.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And so you can say wow that they're from me,
or you just say they're from you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Get you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I don't. I'm not asking for credit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
What I love about this this is amazing. But what
I love about is you've understood now that when you
gift one of my kids get you got to get
them all. You got three jealous ones are like, where's
so dude? Thank you for that? That's amazing. Yeah, I'm
gonna have to tell him uncle Bobby got that bet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
You literally don't have to they love do they love you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
And I think it would be so cool coming from you. Okay, well,
especially the little one.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
Every day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Then you have to wrap them though and say I
wrapped them to this saved them. You don't have to
wrap them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
That's great. I wrapped them put under the tree from Bobby,
and from Bobby and Kaitlyn or just Bobby.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
No, not from Kaitlyn.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Why not doing that? That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I saved those four. It's only I mean, that saved
all the four the cowboys that have so they can
have them. I don't know you're gonna give the youngest
one that Zach Martin because he won't know the difference. Okay,
but in any you do not have to say they're
from me. If you change your mind, they can be
from you, you and your wife, and I have to
give them to my kids.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
I would like like like like for you brought the
younger one he he made.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
What would you do with? What are you gonna wear one?

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Yeah? The down Sanders one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, I don't you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
I'm the sports park.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
I don't care what you do with them, but I
saved them because you have four boys take them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Thank you dude, well, thank you. Wow, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Merry Christmas. This story is not funny. It's not funny.
It's actually terrible. Oh great, it's not funny because so
it's not funny. It's like, oh my god, why would you.
Eric Molds sued for allegedly intentionally which, by the way,

(01:05:24):
Eric Molds played for the Bills and the Texans and
the Titans. He intentionally gave Bills fans STDs. What a
new dude, I'm telling you, it's not funny. What it's
like a fictional story of Like that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
This has got to be a movie, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
It's freaking wild. A new lawsuit alleged that he intentionally
passed incurable s CD female fans. The lawsuit was filed
by an identified woman who claims that Molds did this
to several other women, that he specifically targeted single mothers
who are Buffalo Bills fans.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
This is psychotic, that's like, this is I've never heard
of this, dude me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Either feels fake. That's why I'm like, it's funny. It
feels fake.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
What position do you play.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
He's a wide receiver, right, Yeah, he's being sued for
negligence and intentional causes of action fire disclosed. But the
fact that's like intentionally giving another fan like looking for
fans of the team.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
It's like when people, you know, punch a fan like
with another team, like on the street and like knocking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
For no reason, for no reason. It's like, what like
this is next level? Isret Well that fifth to the
face you can it won't stay forever.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
It's said uncurable.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Well, it's a virus. It's herpes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Oh it was that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
You may go into regression or into yeah or not
maybe not.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
No idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
We're going to get there eventually.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yes, he knows too much about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Oh I thought that what a dirt bag.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
That's weird.

Speaker 9 (01:06:59):
I that's how weird dude that's dirt Yeah, yeah, has
a dirt bagtype stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Dang okay, Eddie Cowboys Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
I mean, don't disrespect the Cowboys. I guess by making
them an underdog like they got mad at that they
got I guess they got upset. I mean it doesn't
make a difference to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
They could still win nine. They can still go nine
and eight.

Speaker 9 (01:07:21):
They went out, win out, Mike McCarthy back, and I
don't even know, Like watching him on the sideline is
funny because like he's like, I don't even think he's
like wanting to win, because he's like, I'm not going
to be here next year.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
I think he's here. I think he's there next year.
You think he's here, I think so, if you ask
me right now. I don't think they're firing him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
But his contract ends.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Okay, I think he gets another year. Yeah, I guess
they wouldn't fire him. They just wentn't renew his deal. Yeah,
great point, great point. But I think the Cowboys if
they still win every game, I'm not looking at the record.
I think they could still go nine and eight, and
I don't know if they're mathematically eliminated yet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I mean, there has to be some losses, right because
the NFC is getting stacked.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Eagles clinch.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I wanted the Commanders to lose yesterday and they did not.
They almost almost almost did.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Yeah, two point conversions a strong lead.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Cowboys have three tough games.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Oh yeah yeah yeah, Tampa Bay who next week?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
The Bucks? The Eagles and the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
They lost the Vasiles last week.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Yeah, we shouldn't have lost that, but we did.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Wait, so what's the record.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
They are six and eight currently, so they could.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Be I don't know, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Is there a percentage right now with the Cowboys to
get in the playoffs? Is there been a new and
updated today since it's not Monday Night football yet?

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
I mean the one I saw on Sunday yesterday was
one percent. Hey there's a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Zero?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Okay, Cowboys percentage to playoffs seventeen hours ago after Week
fifteen versus Panthers, the Dallas Cowboys have made however, take
the pants it comes that Week fifteen, still alive in
the postseason chase, A lot of work to be done.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
It's one way to put it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
The Cowboys. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Come on, bones, you got a drum roll on this mic?

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Right now? They're they're they're the twelfth team and obviously
they need to be one of the top seven.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Yeah, that's the long ways.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I'm at seven right now, the Commanders at nine and five,
so they're gonna have to at least win nine games,
and they're gonna need a lot of people to lose.
They need Niners to lose and that's fine Falcons. Really,
it's just the Commanders, if the Commanders or the seat.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
If they lose out if they don't win another game.
But I don't even the head to win.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Did you guys, did you guys play the Commanders coming up?

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
Yeah, so that could be what about the first game game.

Speaker 7 (01:09:44):
And you guys beat them, right, because can you imaginize?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
No, no, I mean that'd be crazy. But dude, there's
no way we have to win.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Every they're hold on. There are three games left.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
They have they have to lose one or no, they
have to win them all. They have to lose them all,
and we have to win them all.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yes, but the Seahawks and Cardinals are still kind of
in the mix too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
They are and Seahawks, I don't know what's Gino's Cardinals
are done now? Yeah, Kyler was hurt yesterday and Gino
was hurt yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Who do the Cowboys play next?

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Tampa Bay? Okay on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Hey man, I'm just saying they're still in it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
They're still in the next I don't think so. See
you just lost Hope too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
No, No, they're still in the mix as long as
you're in, you're in. It ain't over until it's over.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
And then and then what we're gonna do make the
playoffs and then just kind of do what we always do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
It'd be really cool for me the playoffs, so rush,
it'd be amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
I think you do what ten touchdowns and three picks
right and many sacks? I don't know, but whatever that
statu is, they put it up to deck and it
was not good.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
That's never good for Dack.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Cowboys are the most loved, I know, most valuable, oh
franchise in American sports. Cowboys at one Warriors? It too
over the Yankees. Wow, Cowboys and that's all Steph. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Cowboys and one Warriors are two Rams at three, Yankees
at four, Knicks at five, Patriots at six, Giants at seven,
Lakers at eight, Jets at nine, Niners at ten.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
How did the Rams get like more fans?

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
How do they do that?

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Because that's tough for them that they play at home
and like more than half of the people there for
the visiting team.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
They're better than the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Yeah, you're thinking of the Chargers for the most part.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Yeah, the Chargers are really you think the Chargers the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Most part Rams have been there for a long time.
But LA has so many options all the time for everything.
That's I mean, unless you're the Dodgers, it's hard to
beat in LA and have people there.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
In the Lakers, I think their owner has something to
do that too, probably because he owns a couple of teams,
so I'm sure the value of it goes up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Maybe I think just being in LA. Yeah, I mean,
you have you own a professional sports team in LA.
That's worth a lot of That's that itself is worth
a lot true. All right, let's take a veray real quick.

Speaker 10 (01:11:46):
One more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Mike you good?

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
You're good.

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Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Chief feat the Browns. Patrick Mahomes got hurt at the end,
may miss a game as of right now. At the
high Andkele sprain.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
It look bad.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
It look pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
He but like four plays before that, he felt he
went down then too. Uh, wouldn't be.

Speaker 7 (01:13:22):
A postseason without him limping in some you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Some capacity Bengals the Titans, Ugly game, high scoring game,
Bengals one easy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
Did you see that guy dropped the pick six in
the end zone?

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Yes, weren't there a couple of drops right before getting
the end zone that turned into touchbacks?

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Oh yeah yeah. Oh not only the pick six but
the Colts that Taylor Taylor did the ball flip right
at the goal line on Earth. Guys, you know this,
that's crazy. They keep doing this. It's crazy people keep
doing this.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Like I remember, you got one more step Man, one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
More step Eagles wide receiver really fast and the Smith. Yes,
Sean Jackson did it in like college and like the
and then didn't NFL as well too. But like what
when one person does it, you should never do it
again because it's the dumbest reason. And John Taylor is
like one this year, but he's like a veteran, super

(01:14:16):
smart guy knows Wow. Commanders beat the Saint Sants, went
for two. Did not get it and I was like,
go for two. Then I was like, oh, it's South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
He didn't even start.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
He didn't. Hainer started. It was terrible. Jayers was terrible.
A lot of really bad quarterbacks, which is why we
don't want to be hit quarterback the first first it
was so bad.

Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
James four picks, Will.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Will Levis sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
It's got to be done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Ravens whipped up on the Giants. Cowboys beat the Panthers.
I will say there was a really bad Briance Young
faked a crap out of Michael Parsons and then fumbled
it on the same play.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
Yeah, not a good game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Not a good game. Yeah, Jets and Jaguars is a
good game. Graduations Yeah again, went down to it. I
remember they were like, the Jets need a boom touchdown
right at.

Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
The Yeah, leave it flip for us to be officially eliminated,
for us to see like what this could have been,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Monte Adam was out of control. That sideline catch that
he made there was like bending backwards that he feels
like he's two hundred years old because he played with
Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. Guy Dan, he's awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:15:25):
It's twenty fifteen all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Love it, both of those guys. The Jets they're wide receivers.
Now they have to make Jena Wilson is awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Got another touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Yep, yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Never knew how awesome he was because nobody could get
on the ball. He's he's so good and you're finally
able to see now how good he is because Rodgers.

Speaker 7 (01:15:43):
Actually looks like he can move around a little bit now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
So yeah, too bad?

Speaker 7 (01:15:47):
Sorry, yeah, too bad that it doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
You want Rogers right next year?

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
Not really, I want to blow the whole thing up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Yeah, you should stir from scratch.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Texas beat the Dolphins to His third pick was ugly,
second pick was bad, His third pick was terrible. Sting
that he took both of them. Yeah, Bills and Lions,
what a freaking game. That onside kick was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
I don't care. Why do you take it so early?

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Because no one was thinking he was going to take
it early.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
But that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
You have to line up. They announce it, and they
line up.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
See what like the new rules announce it?

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
No, I know, there's no like surprise to really get it.
I know, I know you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Want to be like a crazy you don't know what
I'm doing, But.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
That was like, now there's no chance because you announce it.
But then they're still like, really, that's what I was thinking.
They weren't expecting to take it early, and they're like, okay,
we're going an onside kick it. And the guy's like,
I don't know, but boy they yeah Eagle Whip, Steelers, Cardinals, Patriots.

(01:16:49):
I mean, really, who cares no offense?

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
I know, I was not emotionally invested really at all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Baker had four freaking touchdowns and then the Chargers did
not score it all in the second half, and then
the Packers and Gino left in the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Right, yes, how sweet the title. Lockett walks out with
him too, walks all the way down to the tunnel
and like give him a little hug and like I'm
gonna get back to the game. Good luck. Yeah, I
would do that for you guys. Oh thanks man, and
walk you guys. You know the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
That's sweet man, Chris, very sweet of man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
No problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
I think that's it. Oh oh yeah, you can you
one of those candies if you want the know the elf.
Remember you know how they had from Santa Claus's. Yeah,
the hot chocolate that's supposed to be so good because
it's like, so is that from el for Santa Claus.
That's but like, try the candy. It's like the greatest
Christmas candy ever Cloes and don't I want?

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
I want there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Let's see what we were doing there. It's the it's
the sours candy.

Speaker 10 (01:17:51):
My god, I've been doing I've been walking read into
this for like an hour and a half and Eddie
almost wound it right there and he goes a.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Word to drowned myself, the world's best, take the world's best.
Ain't god, can y'all do that thing where you gleek?
You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
I could you can gleek?

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I could do a fountain. I've been gleaking my whole life.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
I've never been in a gleek.

Speaker 6 (01:18:17):
Whoa, that's a good gleek.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
That's don't even want me to do it right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Now, dude, already, that's don't do it in here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
You just did it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
It's my studio. He shoots out this way to me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Oh discussssright, clean it up, clean it up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
That's that's just keep keep wow, keep it in though
it's good now, yeah, yeah, keep it in don't. Don't
enjoy it?

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
Now, keep at it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
How do you even finish this saying?

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
It's like, just enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
There's a little more inside that will come out. We
want you to experience that too.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
There's a little extreme we we.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Had convinced Wad an hour ago. It's like the greatest
candy ever. He said, Oh candy. We're like, yeah, hold off,
have a little piece on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
What does it taste like?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
I think I can get to it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
It's okay, you gotta you gotta trumpet. We're about to
wrap up.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Any enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Hang out man, all right, that's it. Everybody feel good?

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
Feat great.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
I gotta clean this table, Yes you do.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
I don't even know where it went.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
I can't believe you guys can gleek. That's cool. I've
never been. I can't whistle and I can't gleek.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I can whistle, okay, I can cleek. I can also
do my tongue like I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
And then three talk. You have like three tacos in
there three time. Hey, ladies love that they.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Don't It really does nothing? You get that's a funny
joke that literally it does. I don't know, it does nothing.
Oh here it goes. There's that middle park.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Man. You think it's over and then it just hit
you in due.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
He was right for the best kidy ever job. Thank
you guys. Please Bobby on Sports put up a bunch
of clips over there go follow if you don't mind.
Bobby on Sports. Thanks to Jordan for coming on with us.
And that is it and we will see you guys
later on this week.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
All right, we allright?

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
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