November 23, 2020 • 54 mins
This episode of Beverly Hills 90210 introduced the world to Dylan McKay. From the very moment we all met Dylan, we soon realized we were also falling in love with heartthrob Luke Perry.
As Jennie and Tori share their wonderful stories and memories from this particular episode, their heartache is palpable as they must continue to face the loss of their beloved friend. This episode is where it all begins for Bad Boy Dylan McKay. "Welcome to paradise, man. Welcome to your dream come true."
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Guys with Jenny Guard and Tori Spelling. Everybody's here, We're here,
I'm not here together. It's gobble gobble gobble weak. Please
don't ever say that or do that with your neck again.
I don't mind it. Actually, Oh god, you're a cute turkey. Um. Yeah,
(00:24):
it's Thanksgiving week and this is our our third episode,
right of n how are we doing? Cis are we
we We're doing great? She would be very relaxed. No,
because you're you're the expert at this. This is new
for us, so we need to know. Like, how dad,
do you think we're doing? I think people loving fun.
(00:45):
I'm liking it. Yeah, And how did you guys like?
Watching back episode two? Oh my goodness. I I was like, wait,
it's over so fast. It went by so quickly compared
to it. When it was over, I kind of wanted
to bench and like keep going, But I waited. You
(01:05):
wanted more of your own show? I did, but I didn't.
I waited for everybody else. I didn't want to, you know,
be ahead of the time. My husband is watching this
with me for the first time because he didn't see
it when it first aired, and so he's trying to
just like kind of like get a grasp of everybody.
So Dylan's like a bad boy, but like he doesn't
(01:26):
live in a house like it lives in a sweet
Is it holding his interests? I'm very curious. It really good.
I'm very happy right now. Yeah, I'm so ready he's
doing that. That sounds so cute. What I like that? Wait? Now? Why? Okay?
Is it because he's younger than he didn't watch it
for around the first time, or because he's a boy
(01:49):
or both. He's two years younger than me, so I'm
robbing the cradle. Um, But yeah, and I think he
was just younger. Such a cougar. That's glad. I'm glad.
Oh the nails, you guys. You can't see her right now,
but let me just be your eyes right now. Tory
(02:11):
looks radiantly beautiful. She's all gussied up, well lit, beautiful
lipstick on, and she's got these nails like fancy lady nails.
Are they fancy lady nails? Or they're I mean all
the kids are wearing them. I mean, hello, have you
watched Instagram? Like all the like millennials have these long nails.
(02:35):
I just never had because you mean, like a poopy diaper,
and uh, I don't want to like cut his balls
off or anything so aggressive, but we get it. I'm
not gonna lie. I put mittens on the change them.
But I have these long nails. Who've been playing a
character that's supposed to be a milf? So what's that? Mother?
(02:56):
And I'd like to free mother. I'd like to ask. Uh,
it's my kid's favorite thing. They're mom, Mom, tell everyone
the character you're playing. And I'm like, okay, I'm playing Shoshana,
a forty year old. I just like, that's Showshanna, forty
year old, blonde, jewish mouth. What okay? I know, I
(03:23):
know how excited you are to be playing a milf
deep in your heart. No, I'm excited because I get
to wear makeup, wear my hair and dress and wear
these fancy nails, all these things that she would never
let me do if we were together. That's not true.
It's just the nails. It's the it's the nails. They're
(03:43):
long and they're flashy, and I don't care. Don't like
when I'm flashy. She doesn't like when I'm gussied up.
I do like you gussied up. It's just the nails.
They creep me out. We can move on. I'm gonna
wear these nails back to l A and scratch. They
literally just give me like he get the ships when
I think I'm just scratching. No, don't touch my hand.
(04:11):
But do you do? You look real pretty? Thanks? So
do you? Before we got on here, um, you guys
were discussing was it a picture that you guys were
looking at from the past or one not? Because it's
started with I think I sent you this week, like
three pictures of you and I from the internet from
(04:33):
some feed that I saw. I like message them to
you and said, we have a problem. We're starting to
look alike. Oh my god, you guys. Okay, So first
of all, she deemed me my best friends, lit into
my Instagram d M and was like have you know
(04:54):
you were like, look, you showed two pictures like when
we were younger and the one now, and you were like,
do you think we're starting to look alike? And I
was like, wow, that on good call. I thought it
like midnight, So d M D back, you're morphing into
each other. But that reminds me. That reminds me of
the other picture that you sent me. So we went
(05:17):
to Israel for twenty four hours hours. This was like
a year ago. Yeah yeah, to do a campaign for
a kid's brand, clothing brand, which was a really cool
commercial that we filmed. We literally flew fifteen hours, I
think it was fifteen hours. Off the plane, went to
(05:38):
the hotel, slept, got up, went to a sound stage film,
got on a plane and went home your entire trip
and they had us done up all fancy, and we
took a picture in the elevator I think right before
you went to the ampom to come home. We thought
we looked really good. We did we think we looked good?
(06:00):
Or did we think we look No? I felt really
like I look good. Like these Israeli artists just did
some magic on me and they made me look good.
You do yourself, I have to was it me or
you that had it? Listen? Okay? So you guys, okay, no, no, no,
this is even better. So we arrived there after this
(06:22):
fifteen hour trip and we get there and they're like, oh,
Jenny guard Tory spelling, need to know, everyone's so nice,
and they just kept bringing a sushi and we're like, well,
we want to tell you like your food and They're like, oh, sushi,
because in Hollywood you guys eat sushi. And we're like, oh,
that's one sushi and Israel. But they were so nice.
And then I sit down in the hair chair first
(06:44):
and they were like, okay, so uh so we're just
gonna go underneath and we're gonna make these tight braids
to pull your face back under your hair. And I
sat there and I'm not gonna lie. My my eye
teared up just one and I was like, oh, man,
I look bad like I'm one been really cold if
they got to do that. And then they're like, no, no,
no, no no, we do this with everyone, even like young models.
(07:07):
And they brought and they did to Gen two. So
I feel a lot better. And it hurts like mother,
they medicate you and do this to your hair all
at the same time. So we but we were like, whoa,
this looks good. Looked like we had just had I
don't know, some crazy face. Faces were like pulled and
(07:31):
it hurts so bad. But we were like, oh, we've
heard of this, like Hollywood actresses, they really taped their
faces back in the day in the fifty right, Okay,
so we were thinking we were looking really good. We
were taking pictures and posting and then may I say
what The first comment was, may I did Jenny Kirth
(07:53):
have a face lift? And then she got mad at
me and she's like, I knew didn't look good. I
was like, I think you look great. We just both
looked super Yeah. I couldn't even close my mouth. I
don't think they were making comments about both of us.
And anyway, I love that picture still, so going back
(08:15):
to later that day, I stand by it. Going back
to later that day, we had a picture side by side,
and then I think you brought it up. I did.
I brought up that there was a striking resemblance to
some people that I was thinking of. Oh you know what,
you were right. See you do have a good memory.
(08:35):
Someone did mention it on on Instagram. You were right.
We we we looked like, um hot chicks. Is that
what it's called chicks? Yeah, in white chicks the way
and brothers when they are in makeup to look like
(08:56):
white women. Now that you're say it, every time I
look at you, I think, yeah, sorry, every time I
look at myself, I see it. Like So then I
mocked up a picture of our faces from that shoot
on the poster of Marlon and Shawn Wayne's from White
(09:16):
Chicks and if you're lucky, I might share it with
these this Oh my gosh. We actually decided we were
going to post it. We were all riled up a
couple of glasses of wine, and then we didn't post it.
We rethought that with a crazy trip though hours. But
it was fun. We had so much fun on our
flight and it was just like we were first. It
(09:39):
was so nice. Yeah, I had a good eighteen hours
of sleep or whatever it was, and you sat there
biting your real nails because you didn't have those hideous
fake nails. Then you were biting your nail nails and
you were like playing on your phone and asking for
more champagne the entire eighteen hours. Every time I woke
up and glanced over you, you were doing the same thing.
(10:00):
Are you a champagne drinker? On flights? I'm just a
terrified flyer and she knows that. And here's the thing.
I'm so scared of flying that there's very few people
I will fly with in this world and she is
one of them. Me lucky you, um. But it's really
hard because she runs the gamut of like on one side,
(10:20):
she's very nurturing and she'll hold my hand during takeoff.
And then on the other side, she's just like, Okay,
now I'm gonna go to sleep. I'm and do my
thing and buy and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, don't
go to sleep, hang out with me. I'm I'm a
tough lover. I believe in tough love. Yeah, were mixed
with you know, like a softness. But so she went
to sleep and I had to eat like all the
(10:41):
chips and candy packets on the flight already. Woke up
and they're just wrappers everywhere, literally everything really long. Did
you guys get to travel a lot with Beverly Hills?
I know, I know that you you went to Did
you actually go to Paris Tori for those episodes? I'm
(11:03):
jumping ahead. I did not. That was on the back lot. No,
you're killing my dream Universal. Oh it Actually I actually
traveled a lot though there there were trips. Where were
the trips? You went to Israel? Oh yeah yeah? We
uh I in Gabrielle, myself and Parker Lewis can't lose
(11:25):
but for pleasure reason went on tour of Israel. No
whisper Fox and I think he had a show on
Fox at that time, so that's with us. But yeah,
we went to Israel. We need to take a break
and then we should get into the episode and dissect it.
Oh we have wine. I see the wine. Alright, time
it's re watch time. Let's take a break and we'll
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You guys are being hesitant to get back into this
episode only because it was Luke Perry's first appearance on
the show and we can't speak about him and without
addressing the obvious and yeah, I could imagine that's really
hard for you guys. Yeah, that's what we were just
kind of trying to um how we wanted to go
(14:00):
about talking about this, because yeah, this is Dylan's first episode,
So Luke Perry's first episode of Beverly Hills nine O
two and O and um, that was a pretty exciting
thing for everyone, I think, not just for those of
us that got to work with him, but it was
a big deal, like Dylan McKay was a big, big
(14:22):
deal in the history of like television. And it's a
hard thing because as hard as people probably think it
is for us to navigate talking about Luke publicly, it's
still hard for us to talk about him privately and
figure out how to do it. And because it's still
(14:44):
doesn't feel real, right mm hmm. Yeah, I mean it's
this is honestly the first time I've talked about it
with a microphone rather than just like to personally and privately.
But it's just really hard. Yeah, I I I still
(15:06):
don't accept it in a weird way you don't have to, Yeah,
And it's it's seeing this episode, I definitely felt it
takes you back to the moment and you almost are
into it and you feel like you don't have to
accept that he's gone, you know, Yeah, you just get
(15:27):
to experience it again. Yeah, it's definitely tricky. That's why
when I said, I, you know, I watched the show
back and I thought when it was over, I was like, wait,
I don't want to be over I want to keep
watching it because I felt that, like, you know, like
he's right there. Obviously you guys can tell we had
(15:51):
a lot of love for him, and um, it's a
hard thing to navigate. I guess none of us ever
thought you would get to that point where one of
us would be gone. That's not something you think about
in life, and until it happens to you. You know,
your best friends from high school like everything, and then
(16:12):
it's part of life. It starts to happen. And and
two you're in that moment and you hear about others,
you just can't relate until it actually happens to your
group of best friends, and then you all just feel
like whoa, Like what what just happened? You just feel
that emptiness. I know when we did p h nine
(16:33):
or two, and when we first got together for the
first promo shoot, remember that moment, Oh my gosh, it
was heartbreaking where Iron slipped and he said we were
waiting for all of us and we were we count.
You know, it's like when you have kids and you
count your kids and there's there's always eight of us
and you count. And I turned around and said, where's Luke?
(16:55):
And then I just saw him catch himself and he
turned away and I could just see his heartbreaking and
they started to cry. And it was what we were
all thinking though, like he was just not there and
we we didn't feel complete, and we still don't. As
(17:15):
a fan, we don't either. I didn't want to accept
it when I heard the news either, So I can
only imagine how you guys feel. Yeah, I'm sure that
you know. As hard as it was for us, it
was equally hard for a lot of people out there,
especially his beautiful kids and just really unfortunate and all
(17:38):
the fans just to see how much it impacted people
on such a that part felt good because he had
such an impact on the world. He really did, and
and although they never got to see the behind the
scenes the view into him that they did see, they
(18:02):
nailed it like he was just as special as they
all thought he was or wanted him to be even
more so. M hm. So let's talk about Dylan McKay's
first episode. Yeah, he was. He originally just supposed to
be in like the first few episodes. Was he casted
(18:24):
to be a regular or I think not. I think
in the beginning it was just a one off, right
or maybe a few episodes, but he wasn't gonna be
I don't remember, are you sure? Yeah? I think that.
I remember I was told that Fox wasn't like they
(18:45):
weren't sold on his on the fictional character of Luke
or of of him at first. Right, Well, I know that.
And this is again just from my memory of the
behind the scenes from my dad's perspective, So it's might
not have been how it went down, but from my
memory there they definitely felt like there was a lack
(19:06):
of the bad boy. They wanted that, you know, squeaky clean,
Brandon Walsh, you know, Jock, Steve Sanders, David Silver was
the young kid. Yeah, like there was you know, where's
like the hunky, mysterious bad boy. Um. So I remember
from my memory they they were testing people, so that
(19:30):
makes me think it was more than just a few episodes.
And I remember my dad on a phone call and
he was really really upset, and of course I was
listening trying to, you know, see what was going on,
and they said, we want to look at other people,
and he was like, this kid like Luke Perry, he's
it this issue who I want to cast as Dylan
(19:52):
mackay and they weren't sold and um, he said, he's
coming into tests for you. And they said, well, you
can't bring one person and into test. Now. When you
come in and tested a network, they always have choices
because you have to give them choices A, B and
C and you have to be committed that whoever they choose,
you're okay with casting. Um. And he said, I'm bringing
(20:12):
one guy in and that's it because he's the guy.
And they said, we're not comfortable with that. And I
remember my dad and this is so my dad's personality.
He said, well, if you won't cast him, then I
will and I'll pay for him myself. Wow. And and
that was it. I mean, I wish we had that power.
(20:36):
I mean, just in the first episode alone, when you
meet Dylan McKay, you, yeah, he's the bad boy. He's gorgeous.
I mean, the camera loves him, but then you feel
for him because you see that disconnect that he has
from his parents, and then you like you have it's
you have the full three sixty of emotions when it
comes to this character. I couldn't imagine, really, yea of
(21:01):
the earth human being like you, that character you saw
a lot of who Luke Perry really was you know
a lot of what They were very similar in their
makeups and because with Luke, you just you loved him
the minute you met him, and you were just engaged
(21:22):
by his you know, charisma. But it was not like
over the top. It was just like this really calm,
easy vibe that he would get off to everyone. And
I think that Dylan did that too, and that's why
America and the world fell in love with him. He
was he made everyone he talked to feel special, but
it was genuine. He's the only one out of all
(21:47):
of you guys that I got to meet. Yes, your experience,
So I met him about um, I don't when I
first started with Ryan, when I took over on the
More show with him, and he was probably a year
or two in and he was promoting Riverdale and uh,
and then he came in and I basically told him
(22:09):
how he was my first crush and I had his
posters on my wall and I had his I told
him I had his Barbie doll and he got a
little affused, like it was an action figure. It's like,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but um no, it was just
such an honor to meet him and you're right, Like
he was just as lovely in person. It is sometimes
you meet famous people and you're like, you have this
(22:30):
idea in your head of like who they are, and
then you meet him and you're disappointed or you're let down,
And it was just not the case with him. Never
meet your heroes, they say, I know, but he was
just he was that one you wanted to meet. Absolutely.
He was so gracious and like giving of his love
and time to all the fans, like that was one thing.
(22:51):
Such a hugger, Yeah, he would hug everyone, and he
just cared so deeply about everyone. Yeah. The only thing
different about him and Dylan and I think is like
he was hysterical and never minded, like making himself the
butt of the joke and just like, yeah, he certainly
(23:15):
was a character. Do you have a nickname for you? Uh,
he's the one that you can say, you know, he
just called me gen Fiber. But I don't know, was
there ever anything there? You had one? I had one,
But I feel like he had this cute name for you,
and I can't remember what it was. He called me Camel.
(23:37):
Camel is that cute? Are we happy with that nickname?
It was? It was better than Brian. Brian used to
call me Lamb, Chops and Chewbacca. So why do you
have all these names so extreame, I know, and when
(24:00):
you're a six year old girl, like, none of those
names make me feel good. And Brian used to call
me Lamb chomps because he said I had so much
fur right here. Yeah again, peach fun. But as a teenager,
that's like, like, you don't want a boy to tell
you that this what's happened. This is stuff that you
(24:22):
never get over. When we did, I made a point
of telling he didn't even He was like, oh yeah,
And I was like, He's like, that was just like
it was cute, and I was like, it scarred me
so bad. Yes, um, probably because I liked yeah, but
scarred me so bad that I now when I did
Beach Night, I was like, I want to feel my face.
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I was like, my whole face has been threaded. Thank you.
I wouldn't let it go, but that Chewbacca, he would go.
You know, he did the same thing to me. He
told me, I'll never forget. I was wearing a sleeveless
shirt and he but this is one of the two
(25:03):
times I was wearing a sleeveless shirt and he was
standing behind me and he said, you know, you can
always tell a woman's age by her elbows. And I
was like, my elbows. He's looking at my elbows, And
from that day forward, I have a king phobia of
my wrinkly elbows. Thank you, right, Gosh, I think I've
(25:25):
told him that, but I also did. We had that
moment like listen what you did to us. And the
time when I was lactating because I just had a baby.
I was the only one of the whole cast that
had a baby, and I was I was trying to
be like, you know, nineteen and cute in an orange
cropped stretchy tank top and at the beach club, but
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I was lactating and it was maybe it wasn't likely
when my booze were just sweating. I don't remember, but
I don't know. It's really embarrassing, like under the boob
wetness situation during our scene, during the scene, and he
said something in the scene did yeah, but you could
not notice it. It was like so we grew up
(26:12):
together like no filter, like we can say anything. Can
I go back to the nice name that Luke gave me? Yes, yes.
So he told me, um that called me camel, and
I was so offended and I was like, oh my god,
and I was like, this is so bad. Like Luke
Perry just called me camel and he's like, no, it's
(26:32):
because camels have the longest, most beautiful eyes and eyelashes,
and that's you. So I love that name to this day.
He loved you so much. I can't remember him just
gushing about your camel eyes. Ah. He was a true,
true in every sense, big brother. I mean, that's one
(26:55):
of the big protector came with his character and his
it Kelly and Brenda or Kelly and Brandon or is
it Kelly and Dylan? Oh Man, tell us what you
guys think because we flip flop. Yeah, I do, I go,
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I go back and forth. Is that bad? Can't I
have both? You know what if I can't just choose me,
I'm going to choose both. Well, thank you. How about
his overalls, He was definitely sporting those overalls with the
one flappy down only one side up. Was that a
nineties and they're like rolled up at the bottom, so
(27:37):
very crisscross. But that was the style, that's what it
wasn't the early nineties. I was just riveted every time
he was on camera. I don't know if that was
because I was like a fan girl and excited it
for Dylan, or if I was because of missing him
or what it was, but it was like I loved it.
(27:59):
I loved watching every second of it. You know, you
guys were talking about Brian earlier, did you notice that
his voice hadn't changed yet? His little pretty pupis voice
(28:20):
right got to get defensive, like what are you guys
saying like he's fine? I had two questions about that,
the voice and then the hair situation. On the at
of hair, there was a lot of hair and it
was kind of really glued into place and it never moved.
Even when his head moved, his hair didn't move. But
(28:43):
I liked it. It looked cool, but it was a
mystery to me. Watching the show, I was just like, Wow,
that's some hair. There's a lot of takeaways. I mean,
even just right in they started giving they started talking.
I mean, the valley always gets a bad rap, like
no matter what you know, I think, Betty Sarah says
like I live in the valley, you know, I mean
(29:06):
what I don't understand that there's always been a big
l a valley sort of like feud, right if you
live in the valley or not, you have to have
like two sides, right, I guess. So it's so ridiculous
because the valley is super cool, super chic. Now we're not.
We all live there. I moved to the valley, having
(29:27):
left in thirteen years though San Fernando Valley that you know,
it wasn't chic then. It wasn't Beverly Hills, that's for sure.
Now it's like there's just as much hates when I
mentioned this, but Beverly Hills Housewives one of my guilty pleasures. Um,
they all live in the valley. They all live in Yeah,
(29:52):
I wonder why I don't like that show. Okay, Um,
Betty was from the valley. Yep. Wait, but do you
know what I really liked from the from the from
the first I guess the first real episode of the series,
Um was Andrea. Did you notice that you? Wait? You
(30:13):
just said Herron. I know, I was like, do we
It was Andrea in the first episode. I'm pretty sure
in the first episode you were allowed to say Andrea
and she didn't change it to Andrea until a little later.
So but it was scenes that she didn't wasn't in
so she couldn't correct. I've gotten that information from a
(30:34):
very valuable friend. So given your voice tone, we're gonna
believe you. Know. Um. But she was the cutest thing
to me. I always thought, I want to be Andrea.
She's so cute and so smart and so spunky, and
I loved her whole thing. It's pretty badass that as
(30:55):
a I'm assuming you guys are sophomores and she's running
the newspaper for high school, like, yeah, she's like working
in New York Times in there. I love it. She's
really cool character. And then we kind of wanted her
and Brandon to be a couple. Hey was that going on?
Like right out of the gate in the in the
newspaper office? Was she vibe and him? And did you
(31:16):
get mad at it? I always felt like it. Yeah,
I don't know. Maybe it was jealous right away of
Marianne Moore. You know, like right, what if things had
gone a different way? What if Brandon and Andrea ended
up together? Like could could that have been something cute? Yeah?
I feel like why everyone wanted that? So why didn't
(31:37):
it happen? I love that like the hot popular boy
somewhere deep down wanted the studious, smart nerd. So what
are some of your guys memories from filming that episode?
Absolutely nothing, No, I remember being You've got to remember
this when we were like on the high school squad.
(31:57):
We filmed those um West Bever High scenes at Torrance
High School, and I remember being walking on that quad
with you and Shannon and Brandon for that one scene,
and all the students from the real actual school were there.
They were watching. That was my question between this school
(32:19):
in session during the time you guys were filming, was scary.
It was scary. I was terrified because it was like people,
my peers, people in my age like watching and I
didn't high school. Yeah, that's so fascinating. Yeah, so we
because their their bells would ring and they'd come on
(32:41):
out and we'd be in the middle of a take
and we'd have to wait for them to go back in.
That's when Tory has her first line of this episode.
Do you remember what that was? Tory? You, Brenda, your
brother is dope? Is that right? That was pretty good?
I think it is. Your brother is so dope. But yeah, Brenda,
(33:04):
your brother is so dope. So cute, so cute, what
my real nose? Yeah? I love that vest. You were
wearing two with the stars and stripes situation, like very patriotic.
That was good. Yeah. Did you think that the clothes
were better in the second episode than they were in
(33:24):
the pilot? Like, And I think that that's because there
was a change in the costume designer. The costume designer
from the pilot was different from the first episode, I think,
and they just had a different like interpretation of the
show and they wanted I think she kind of grounded
it more and made it a little more believable and
(33:46):
but still just enough like bling for Beverly Hills. The
other one was a little clueless esque in like yeah,
and and the other made the characters to trend. Yeah,
like if they would that you could be these characters.
They were so real. I like that about the wardrobe.
(34:07):
I mean we started to take on a life of
their own and you could be like who, like who
are you? Are you a Kelly? Or you a Brenda?
Are you Andrea? Are you a Donna? Yeah? It's a
huge personalities and fashion and it and the Yeah, the
wardrobe really sort of picked it the character very clearly
(34:27):
into the viewer's mind, like this is what this person wears,
and this is how they you know, you identify with them.
So I thought that that was a really key part
of it, you know what. I thought that in those
quad scenes, Um, Steve Iron was like Steve was so
mean to Kelly, what a jerk? Like Hello, It's because
(34:49):
he was in love with her. Hello, but he was
like he looks at her ass and he goes liposuction
maybe or so mean um by the And then in turn,
it makes Kelly's character, it makes car Kelly's character moody
and like you're you know, you're always on edge, yeah,
because you're always being like judged and picked on and
(35:12):
called out. Like yeah, they couldn't tell you what they
wanted to do with with those two, with Steve and Kelly,
that relationship they it was kind of like who is
Steve because he was supposed to be like the jerky jock, right, yeah,
and he started out that way for sure, And my
character started out very one dimensional, like really Hill's bitch girl.
And I think even in this episode, like for most
(35:33):
of the first season, they were still trying to figure
out what our characters really you guys, go to the
beach and then you leave Brenda. Again, who does that
leave their friend at the beach. She I don't think
Kelly was very nice, but you hit you hit the
nail on the head when you were describing Dylan and
saying it very much was Luke. They definitely were super
(35:56):
smart in picking up the actors play the characters really
right away and started viewing the characters away from what
how they were originally one dimensional and depicted into kind
of branching out of being their own person. And so
Kelly became more Jenny's more vulnerable. Yeah, and iron I'm
(36:21):
Steve became more iron like funny and charismatic, especially down
the road, like I mean sees many when your mom
has baby and then you become like an older sister
that kind of like that. I like babies. Clearly maternal
(36:45):
instincts really kicked in. Was that little sister was born? Yeah,
well I think that that Um, Yeah, I think that
Steve was just real, real mean to Kelly. And I
don't know, I thought that the whole um that's the
whole beach party was weird. The way Kelly work white
(37:06):
cowboy boots to the beach part. I loved that, but
what it looks on beach party? Why weren't Why wasn't
there one cared? Oh, I think it must have been
cold that day when nobody wanted to Well, it wasn't
the summer episodes yet maybe they went to the beach
(37:27):
because it's like everyone goes yeah those but you literally,
I think you were the first person to really create
the mom Jean, which is totally in right now and
doesn't even mean mom, but like that high waisted Jean,
I think you created that. Look, do you think that's
a pretty big statement. I don't know if I want
(37:50):
to be responsible for that. What do you mean our
kids wear that now and you they have you to
thank for it. Yeah, so I hear an icon Jenny Garden,
deal with it? Okay? Thanks? Where was that beach? Was
that Malibu? Pacific? Pali Stades? Do you guys remember you
(38:10):
feel like it's upire? Yeah, it was Santa Monica, like
borderline Malibu right near sunset or those fun shoots when
you guys got when you got to go to different
parts of l A. Always whenever they let us out
of the sound stage, we were like such. She is
such a different memory of the sound stage than I do.
(38:32):
You always say we were like trapped. It was like
it was like a scary rape hotel. I hated it.
There rap hotel. Wrong with you? I don't know, but
I have very like it just represents some really weird
vibes for me. I don't know. God, I loved it.
(38:55):
I loved when we were on set, we're talking about
our sound stages. These were the this is are we
actually was the Starhouse. It was a warehouse in Van Eys, California,
which is really far from Beverly Hills. And it's in
this like industrial by the Amtrak station. It would not
be grownier, and uh, that's where we shot. That's where
we started. You just said growtier. Is that a word?
(39:20):
I mean, I get like in the eighties, like grow
even in the Max. Totally, yeah, totally, she's talking about Valley.
She just totally went back like that was a throwback
the Valley Girl. It was super growsy. Anyway, we we
filmed there for the first This was the first episode
that was some of those sets, like the interior Walsh
House was on that in in that warehouse, and we
(39:43):
just started filming more and more at the warehouse and
less and less they would let us out on location
and I just remember being like, when are we going
out again? I gotta get out of here. Wow, did
they have lock on your dressing room? That was the problem.
They only let you off your scenes. They had me
tied up with my straight jacket chains at it walls
(40:08):
is there was the one of the interior was on
the set. But was the Walsh House an actual house? Yes?
Where is it? You guys noticed right? It was different house.
It is for the rest of the series, but it
became Costa Walsh. So a fun fact, apparently it was
a hundred and five degrees on the day the scene
(40:28):
that the Mailman was filmed. It was supposed to be
like Minnesota, but really it was just like soap SuDS,
a mixture of soap SuDS. And that was And then
they put the address and I actually googled the address.
It was like three doesn't go anywhere. It says that
it's in Beverly Hills. But when you do like Google maps,
it's not the house. Wait do you think people everywhere
(40:52):
we're getting like fan mail at that address. I mean,
it's not an actually, don't think it is. But then
when I when I looked on Google, there's fans that
have taken pictures in front of the Walsh House. I
just don't know where that is. I don't know, like
what the act, you know, where is it? It's in Altadena? What? Yeah?
(41:13):
And so is Luke's house. Still his house was so cool.
We filmed there a lot, and actually the people that
own that house have like embraced it and they let
people like come in the backyard and just look around
like they it's like a a little museum out there,
Beverly Hills, an Antonio Museum. There were a lot of
(41:35):
different things about the this episode though than the pilot.
So it was interesting to see the way a show.
We'll shoot a pilot and you know, sell a show
based on that pilot, and then from the time they
stop production on the pilot to the time they start
production on the first episode, so much creatively happens with
(41:55):
the studio and with the writers and with the producers
and with the director, like everything, there's so much that
happens that the sort of so many things change, is
what I'm trying to say, from the pilot to the
first episode. And that's interesting because you know, they're really
getting a lot more input from the studio and from
the network about where they want the show to go
(42:15):
and how do we get from here to there. So
if there are a lot more kind of cooks in
the kitchen after you sell a pilot, and that you
had alcoholism a drowning and Brandon's saving a life going
to the hospital, that's a lot for what it really is.
(42:38):
I was telling Jen I was shocked in the this episode.
In the opening scene, Brandon has his dream and he
has his shirt off. And we remember like Luke always
had his shirt off, but like Brandon never had his
shirt off. He was always like in his peach pit
or and I think that's like the mean time, even
(43:00):
at the beach club, I don't remember him ever having
a shirt off. And we actually watched it together and
I was like, oh my god, Jason has a shirt off.
Brandon has a shirt off. Big did you get excited?
I told you he's so lookable. He said, he's he's
very lookable. I know. Here, okay, so okay, here's what happened.
(43:24):
I said, oh my god, he's so hunky. And you go,
Jason's hunky. I said, He's not hunky, he's just like
he's just really like you want to look at him.
He's really lookable. He's lookable. God, he's just so damn lookable.
That guy not to be mistaken with lickable. Wow, did
(43:46):
you ever go there with him? I think she's asking you, Tori. No,
I'm not asking Tori. Did I ever lick him? I
don't recall a time when I licked him? What used
to lick? A lot? I only licked when I was
Oh my god, used to be a liquor. I forgot
(44:06):
about that, like talking about like a dog. What is this?
Why weird would you do that? Yes? I just had
a flashback from Margi age years and she used to
lick It's true that it was like a flirty liquor.
Jason's likable. And you said it, You said he's lickable,
(44:31):
which is why I had to ask, Oh my god,
you probably licked him. I'm going to ask him if
you licked him. Ever. I'm sure he'll say it. Oh
my god, she's doing that. Thinks this again? I'm fidgeting. Okay,
(44:54):
you know what, you guys. I have been friends with
this woman in my whole life, and I know everyone
she's had a crush on, even liked a little bit
and Jason like they were always friends, but never anything
and everything we have talked about him so far, She
gets fidgety. You're messing me up now, is my bfs?
That is hilarious. I would never know this about myself
(45:16):
unless you just pointed it out. You're doing it again.
We're talking about Jason and I'm uncomfortable. Can you stop
talking about me? Year old girl? Right now? What is
that telling you? You're like, I'm a year younger? Excuse me, doctor?
What's my prognosis? Then? I have a deep rooted, hidden
(45:37):
desire to lick Jason priestly. Apparently, apparently let's let's simmer
on that. We'll take a break and maybe come back
with that or maybe come back with the nineties fashion
one or the other. Yeah, So apparently Brandon's car had
(46:05):
a name and we were mistaken, but mean chance what
we think it was, I don't remember, but we didn't
get it right. Apparently because we've had some emails, we've
had some communication, and apparently it's named Mondale for a
(46:27):
very good reason. Why don't you tell them what the
reason is? Me? Okay, so we totally had to look
this up. So it is named after I'm gonna get
it wrong. Walter Mondale, who is from Minnesota and there
in the Minnesota Twins. It's odd they would bring politics
(46:48):
into it, though, I'm surprised. Well, Brandon was very political,
and that's right, I guess so for the newspaper the
semi year political. Now I didn't I don't know who
da What you said, mon Dale is I'm not good
with politics or American history pre Nino. I would write
(47:13):
like the horoscopes. I've said it before and I'll say
it again. I am not book smart, I'm street smart.
Andrea or Andrea? When did the name change? Well, according
to gab Yea, it was Andrea from the get go. Well,
(47:36):
she said that she knew do you remember this story?
She was just telling it last summer when we did
be h that she did. She know Darren Star and
they knew someone in common that always, like would correct
people and would say, no, it's not Andrea, it's Andrea.
So when she was leaving for the audition, she actually
(47:56):
brought that into it, and she thought that they liked
that little court and so it became part of the show.
But we come to find out that in the pilot
she's Andrea and then moving forward, she's Andrea. And don't
even get you guys started on Iron Zering. You don't don't,
(48:19):
don't please say it. Don't say his name wrong. No,
his name is Iron, not Ian. It's ruined me because
I look at the name, I A N and I
say Iron. No matter what. There's an artist right now
that we that we talk about on Kiss Ian Dior.
(48:40):
And I can't tell you how many times I've called
him Ian Door Lives. Nobody ever said Iron before Iron
zer Ring. Now everyone now, you can't not say Iron right,
And it was a thing. He would take it. It
was personal. No, so much of the last we had
(49:01):
uh Maxwell Caulfield on the show and he said he
was talking about Iron and he said Ian on the
air and I was like, wait, it's Iron, but I
don't think he heard me. And I was glad you
said something because inside my heart dropped programs Sweat, break,
(49:23):
break Free, get out as quick as you can run No,
because he was you know is He always would corupt
and that was fine for him, but I always got
so uncomfortable. It was so hard. As his friends to
this day, if we're in a group and someone calls
(49:45):
him Ian We're all like shock therapy or something, and
then I just mounted, I don't know, so true. We
just want people to get it right. We just want
him to be we love him. There you go, there's
your eye in lesson anything else that you guys want
(50:06):
to touch on from this episode, because one of the
takeaways that just kind of like was a throwback for
me was seeing the Walsh's house and in their kitchen
their telephone and the cord on the telephone being fifty
ft long, and that was just so how life was
back in the early nineties. Everyone had that kitchen phone
(50:27):
house line, like it doesn't exist, that doesn't date us
at all. Like like that remember that springy chord, Like
you would stretch it as far as you could. You
could go into another room and close the door. Yeah,
now we twirl our hair. You have to get that.
When we talk about Jason Priestley, No, I feel like
(50:51):
that phone. I I that was the new style phone.
But you know because he didn't have that one before
we clamp it down on the thing and you wrote
that was from like the four that was right before that. Yeah,
so this phone was super cool. It was all like
on one thing and handheld. At the time, there was
(51:14):
still cordless phones like they existed because you guys had
him I think, like Kelly Taylor's bedroom had a cordless phone,
or Kelly Kelly had a phone inner car. Yeah, but
for whatever reason, the kitchen phone always had a chord
and it was always a hundred feet long like in
every family's house. You remember, it had a cord as well. Yeah,
where did that go? Where the cord go? That was?
(51:36):
Did it go into the engine? Like how does that?
I don't understand these things fake because I had one too.
But you know, but did you have the brick phone
that was like it was like holding a brick up
to your face with a giant antenna sticking out of it. Yeah,
we all had those for the days. Man. Well it
(51:57):
was Beverly Hills. It was given the audience just to
taste of luxury that the rest of America I guess
didn't get to experience. You know, we can we talk
about how we were talking earlier, how Shannon's hair was
drastically different from the pilot to the second episode, first episode.
You know, yeah, she got she got bangs, bangs, and
(52:22):
her hair was darker. I think darker and the almost black.
Everyone else's hair kind of stayed the same. Oh no,
Jason got rid of the mullet. Brandon didn't have a
mullet in in this episode. Oh was it different? I
don't know looking at his eyes. Their relationship Brandon and
Brenda is just it was just so pure and lovely.
(52:46):
As a twin mom myself of boy girl twins, I
only hope that they can have this fictional relationship Brandon
and Brenda did, let's hope. Do you think Brenda and
Brandon ever played doctor? Why are you gonna? Where are
you going with? Sorry that kids do it? No, they
do it. Honestly, It's not like a creepy thing. But
(53:09):
what are you getting at? I don't know. I don't know.
But in b h nine, we had a scene that
was prompted because for years it was all over the
internet that they the fans always thought there was a
little bit of sexual chemistry between and when did look
it up? Look it up? Oh god, no, don't tell
(53:31):
me things like this is so gross. I was not
an agreement. I feel like I physically scarred Sisney, just now,
are you? My worry is when they become teenagers and
I like, they have their friends over and then like
I have to be like on the lookout because there's
gonna be teenage hormones in the same age. Oh, this
is all fictional, don't worry. I'm I'm saying um so
(53:56):
much so that in b H nine O two there
is a dream sequence that Shannon has about her as
Brenda and Brandon and they make out what how do
I not remember this from that always used to write
in about that question? We gave it to them. Yeah.
I couldn't watch that those dailies. It was hard. It
(54:17):
was a complete opposite. I was literally steering this like there.
It was just so beautiful to see how much they
loved each other as brother and sister. And I actually
got teary eyed when she was reading his article and
how he genuinely wanted her opinion at the end of
the episode, like read my article for the newspaper. Like, now,
you guys have made me feel bad that my mind
(54:37):
went there, So I'm sorry the only one. I'm just
saying what every fan has expressed, every fire, every pervy
fan things
Guys with Jenny Guard and Tori Spelling. Everybody's here, We're here,
I'm not here together. It's gobble gobble gobble weak. Please
don't ever say that or do that with your neck again.
I don't mind it. Actually, Oh god, you're a cute turkey. Um. Yeah,
(00:24):
it's Thanksgiving week and this is our our third episode,
right of n how are we doing? Cis are we
we We're doing great? She would be very relaxed. No,
because you're you're the expert at this. This is new
for us, so we need to know. Like, how dad,
do you think we're doing? I think people loving fun.
(00:45):
I'm liking it. Yeah, And how did you guys like?
Watching back episode two? Oh my goodness. I I was like, wait,
it's over so fast. It went by so quickly compared
to it. When it was over, I kind of wanted
to bench and like keep going, But I waited. You
(01:05):
wanted more of your own show? I did, but I didn't.
I waited for everybody else. I didn't want to, you know,
be ahead of the time. My husband is watching this
with me for the first time because he didn't see
it when it first aired, and so he's trying to
just like kind of like get a grasp of everybody.
So Dylan's like a bad boy, but like he doesn't
(01:26):
live in a house like it lives in a sweet
Is it holding his interests? I'm very curious. It really good.
I'm very happy right now. Yeah, I'm so ready he's
doing that. That sounds so cute. What I like that? Wait? Now? Why? Okay?
Is it because he's younger than he didn't watch it
for around the first time, or because he's a boy
(01:49):
or both. He's two years younger than me, so I'm
robbing the cradle. Um, But yeah, and I think he
was just younger. Such a cougar. That's glad. I'm glad.
Oh the nails, you guys. You can't see her right now,
but let me just be your eyes right now. Tory
(02:11):
looks radiantly beautiful. She's all gussied up, well lit, beautiful
lipstick on, and she's got these nails like fancy lady nails.
Are they fancy lady nails? Or they're I mean all
the kids are wearing them. I mean, hello, have you
watched Instagram? Like all the like millennials have these long nails.
(02:35):
I just never had because you mean, like a poopy diaper,
and uh, I don't want to like cut his balls
off or anything so aggressive, but we get it. I'm
not gonna lie. I put mittens on the change them.
But I have these long nails. Who've been playing a
character that's supposed to be a milf? So what's that? Mother?
(02:56):
And I'd like to free mother. I'd like to ask. Uh,
it's my kid's favorite thing. They're mom, Mom, tell everyone
the character you're playing. And I'm like, okay, I'm playing Shoshana,
a forty year old. I just like, that's Showshanna, forty
year old, blonde, jewish mouth. What okay? I know, I
(03:23):
know how excited you are to be playing a milf
deep in your heart. No, I'm excited because I get
to wear makeup, wear my hair and dress and wear
these fancy nails, all these things that she would never
let me do if we were together. That's not true.
It's just the nails. It's the it's the nails. They're
(03:43):
long and they're flashy, and I don't care. Don't like
when I'm flashy. She doesn't like when I'm gussied up.
I do like you gussied up. It's just the nails.
They creep me out. We can move on. I'm gonna
wear these nails back to l A and scratch. They
literally just give me like he get the ships when
I think I'm just scratching. No, don't touch my hand.
(04:11):
But do you do? You look real pretty? Thanks? So
do you? Before we got on here, um, you guys
were discussing was it a picture that you guys were
looking at from the past or one not? Because it's
started with I think I sent you this week, like
three pictures of you and I from the internet from
(04:33):
some feed that I saw. I like message them to
you and said, we have a problem. We're starting to
look alike. Oh my god, you guys. Okay, So first
of all, she deemed me my best friends, lit into
my Instagram d M and was like have you know
(04:54):
you were like, look, you showed two pictures like when
we were younger and the one now, and you were like,
do you think we're starting to look alike? And I
was like, wow, that on good call. I thought it
like midnight, So d M D back, you're morphing into
each other. But that reminds me. That reminds me of
the other picture that you sent me. So we went
(05:17):
to Israel for twenty four hours hours. This was like
a year ago. Yeah yeah, to do a campaign for
a kid's brand, clothing brand, which was a really cool
commercial that we filmed. We literally flew fifteen hours, I
think it was fifteen hours. Off the plane, went to
(05:38):
the hotel, slept, got up, went to a sound stage film,
got on a plane and went home your entire trip
and they had us done up all fancy, and we
took a picture in the elevator I think right before
you went to the ampom to come home. We thought
we looked really good. We did we think we looked good?
(06:00):
Or did we think we look No? I felt really
like I look good. Like these Israeli artists just did
some magic on me and they made me look good.
You do yourself, I have to was it me or
you that had it? Listen? Okay? So you guys, okay, no, no, no,
this is even better. So we arrived there after this
(06:22):
fifteen hour trip and we get there and they're like, oh,
Jenny guard Tory spelling, need to know, everyone's so nice,
and they just kept bringing a sushi and we're like, well,
we want to tell you like your food and They're like, oh, sushi,
because in Hollywood you guys eat sushi. And we're like, oh,
that's one sushi and Israel. But they were so nice.
And then I sit down in the hair chair first
(06:44):
and they were like, okay, so uh so we're just
gonna go underneath and we're gonna make these tight braids
to pull your face back under your hair. And I
sat there and I'm not gonna lie. My my eye
teared up just one and I was like, oh, man,
I look bad like I'm one been really cold if
they got to do that. And then they're like, no, no,
no, no no, we do this with everyone, even like young models.
(07:07):
And they brought and they did to Gen two. So
I feel a lot better. And it hurts like mother,
they medicate you and do this to your hair all
at the same time. So we but we were like, whoa,
this looks good. Looked like we had just had I
don't know, some crazy face. Faces were like pulled and
(07:31):
it hurts so bad. But we were like, oh, we've
heard of this, like Hollywood actresses, they really taped their
faces back in the day in the fifty right, Okay,
so we were thinking we were looking really good. We
were taking pictures and posting and then may I say
what The first comment was, may I did Jenny Kirth
(07:53):
have a face lift? And then she got mad at
me and she's like, I knew didn't look good. I
was like, I think you look great. We just both
looked super Yeah. I couldn't even close my mouth. I
don't think they were making comments about both of us.
And anyway, I love that picture still, so going back
(08:15):
to later that day, I stand by it. Going back
to later that day, we had a picture side by side,
and then I think you brought it up. I did.
I brought up that there was a striking resemblance to
some people that I was thinking of. Oh you know what,
you were right. See you do have a good memory.
(08:35):
Someone did mention it on on Instagram. You were right.
We we we looked like, um hot chicks. Is that
what it's called chicks? Yeah, in white chicks the way
and brothers when they are in makeup to look like
(08:56):
white women. Now that you're say it, every time I
look at you, I think, yeah, sorry, every time I
look at myself, I see it. Like So then I
mocked up a picture of our faces from that shoot
on the poster of Marlon and Shawn Wayne's from White
(09:16):
Chicks and if you're lucky, I might share it with
these this Oh my gosh. We actually decided we were
going to post it. We were all riled up a
couple of glasses of wine, and then we didn't post it.
We rethought that with a crazy trip though hours. But
it was fun. We had so much fun on our
flight and it was just like we were first. It
(09:39):
was so nice. Yeah, I had a good eighteen hours
of sleep or whatever it was, and you sat there
biting your real nails because you didn't have those hideous
fake nails. Then you were biting your nail nails and
you were like playing on your phone and asking for
more champagne the entire eighteen hours. Every time I woke
up and glanced over you, you were doing the same thing.
(10:00):
Are you a champagne drinker? On flights? I'm just a
terrified flyer and she knows that. And here's the thing.
I'm so scared of flying that there's very few people
I will fly with in this world and she is
one of them. Me lucky you, um. But it's really
hard because she runs the gamut of like on one side,
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she's very nurturing and she'll hold my hand during takeoff.
And then on the other side, she's just like, Okay,
now I'm gonna go to sleep. I'm and do my
thing and buy and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, don't
go to sleep, hang out with me. I'm I'm a
tough lover. I believe in tough love. Yeah, were mixed
with you know, like a softness. But so she went
to sleep and I had to eat like all the
(10:41):
chips and candy packets on the flight already. Woke up
and they're just wrappers everywhere, literally everything really long. Did
you guys get to travel a lot with Beverly Hills?
I know, I know that you you went to Did
you actually go to Paris Tori for those episodes? I'm
(11:03):
jumping ahead. I did not. That was on the back lot. No,
you're killing my dream Universal. Oh it Actually I actually
traveled a lot though there there were trips. Where were
the trips? You went to Israel? Oh yeah yeah? We
uh I in Gabrielle, myself and Parker Lewis can't lose
(11:25):
but for pleasure reason went on tour of Israel. No
whisper Fox and I think he had a show on
Fox at that time, so that's with us. But yeah,
we went to Israel. We need to take a break
and then we should get into the episode and dissect it.
Oh we have wine. I see the wine. Alright, time
it's re watch time. Let's take a break and we'll
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You guys are being hesitant to get back into this
episode only because it was Luke Perry's first appearance on
the show and we can't speak about him and without
addressing the obvious and yeah, I could imagine that's really
hard for you guys. Yeah, that's what we were just
kind of trying to um how we wanted to go
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about talking about this, because yeah, this is Dylan's first episode,
So Luke Perry's first episode of Beverly Hills nine O
two and O and um, that was a pretty exciting
thing for everyone, I think, not just for those of
us that got to work with him, but it was
a big deal, like Dylan McKay was a big, big
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deal in the history of like television. And it's a
hard thing because as hard as people probably think it
is for us to navigate talking about Luke publicly, it's
still hard for us to talk about him privately and
figure out how to do it. And because it's still
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doesn't feel real, right mm hmm. Yeah, I mean it's
this is honestly the first time I've talked about it
with a microphone rather than just like to personally and privately.
But it's just really hard. Yeah, I I I still
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don't accept it in a weird way you don't have to, Yeah,
And it's it's seeing this episode, I definitely felt it
takes you back to the moment and you almost are
into it and you feel like you don't have to
accept that he's gone, you know, Yeah, you just get
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to experience it again. Yeah, it's definitely tricky. That's why
when I said, I, you know, I watched the show
back and I thought when it was over, I was like, wait,
I don't want to be over I want to keep
watching it because I felt that, like, you know, like
he's right there. Obviously you guys can tell we had
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a lot of love for him, and um, it's a
hard thing to navigate. I guess none of us ever
thought you would get to that point where one of
us would be gone. That's not something you think about
in life, and until it happens to you. You know,
your best friends from high school like everything, and then
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it's part of life. It starts to happen. And and
two you're in that moment and you hear about others,
you just can't relate until it actually happens to your
group of best friends, and then you all just feel
like whoa, Like what what just happened? You just feel
that emptiness. I know when we did p h nine
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or two, and when we first got together for the
first promo shoot, remember that moment, Oh my gosh, it
was heartbreaking where Iron slipped and he said we were
waiting for all of us and we were we count.
You know, it's like when you have kids and you
count your kids and there's there's always eight of us
and you count. And I turned around and said, where's Luke?
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And then I just saw him catch himself and he
turned away and I could just see his heartbreaking and
they started to cry. And it was what we were
all thinking though, like he was just not there and
we we didn't feel complete, and we still don't. As
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a fan, we don't either. I didn't want to accept
it when I heard the news either, So I can
only imagine how you guys feel. Yeah, I'm sure that
you know. As hard as it was for us, it
was equally hard for a lot of people out there,
especially his beautiful kids and just really unfortunate and all
(17:38):
the fans just to see how much it impacted people
on such a that part felt good because he had
such an impact on the world. He really did, and
and although they never got to see the behind the
scenes the view into him that they did see, they
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nailed it like he was just as special as they
all thought he was or wanted him to be even
more so. M hm. So let's talk about Dylan McKay's
first episode. Yeah, he was. He originally just supposed to
be in like the first few episodes. Was he casted
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to be a regular or I think not. I think
in the beginning it was just a one off, right
or maybe a few episodes, but he wasn't gonna be
I don't remember, are you sure? Yeah? I think that.
I remember I was told that Fox wasn't like they
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weren't sold on his on the fictional character of Luke
or of of him at first. Right, Well, I know that.
And this is again just from my memory of the
behind the scenes from my dad's perspective, So it's might
not have been how it went down, but from my
memory there they definitely felt like there was a lack
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of the bad boy. They wanted that, you know, squeaky clean,
Brandon Walsh, you know, Jock, Steve Sanders, David Silver was
the young kid. Yeah, like there was you know, where's
like the hunky, mysterious bad boy. Um. So I remember
from my memory they they were testing people, so that
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makes me think it was more than just a few episodes.
And I remember my dad on a phone call and
he was really really upset, and of course I was
listening trying to, you know, see what was going on,
and they said, we want to look at other people,
and he was like, this kid like Luke Perry, he's
it this issue who I want to cast as Dylan
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mackay and they weren't sold and um, he said, he's
coming into tests for you. And they said, well, you
can't bring one person and into test. Now. When you
come in and tested a network, they always have choices
because you have to give them choices A, B and
C and you have to be committed that whoever they choose,
you're okay with casting. Um. And he said, I'm bringing
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one guy in and that's it because he's the guy.
And they said, we're not comfortable with that. And I
remember my dad and this is so my dad's personality.
He said, well, if you won't cast him, then I
will and I'll pay for him myself. Wow. And and
that was it. I mean, I wish we had that power.
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I mean, just in the first episode alone, when you
meet Dylan McKay, you, yeah, he's the bad boy. He's gorgeous.
I mean, the camera loves him, but then you feel
for him because you see that disconnect that he has
from his parents, and then you like you have it's
you have the full three sixty of emotions when it
comes to this character. I couldn't imagine, really, yea of
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the earth human being like you, that character you saw
a lot of who Luke Perry really was you know
a lot of what They were very similar in their
makeups and because with Luke, you just you loved him
the minute you met him, and you were just engaged
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by his you know, charisma. But it was not like
over the top. It was just like this really calm,
easy vibe that he would get off to everyone. And
I think that Dylan did that too, and that's why
America and the world fell in love with him. He
was he made everyone he talked to feel special, but
it was genuine. He's the only one out of all
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of you guys that I got to meet. Yes, your experience,
So I met him about um, I don't when I
first started with Ryan, when I took over on the
More show with him, and he was probably a year
or two in and he was promoting Riverdale and uh,
and then he came in and I basically told him
(22:09):
how he was my first crush and I had his
posters on my wall and I had his I told
him I had his Barbie doll and he got a
little affused, like it was an action figure. It's like,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but um no, it was just
such an honor to meet him and you're right, Like
he was just as lovely in person. It is sometimes
you meet famous people and you're like, you have this
(22:30):
idea in your head of like who they are, and
then you meet him and you're disappointed or you're let down,
And it was just not the case with him. Never
meet your heroes, they say, I know, but he was
just he was that one you wanted to meet. Absolutely.
He was so gracious and like giving of his love
and time to all the fans, like that was one thing.
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Such a hugger, Yeah, he would hug everyone, and he
just cared so deeply about everyone. Yeah. The only thing
different about him and Dylan and I think is like
he was hysterical and never minded, like making himself the
butt of the joke and just like, yeah, he certainly
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was a character. Do you have a nickname for you? Uh,
he's the one that you can say, you know, he
just called me gen Fiber. But I don't know, was
there ever anything there? You had one? I had one,
But I feel like he had this cute name for you,
and I can't remember what it was. He called me Camel.
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Camel is that cute? Are we happy with that nickname?
It was? It was better than Brian. Brian used to
call me Lamb, Chops and Chewbacca. So why do you
have all these names so extreame, I know, and when
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you're a six year old girl, like, none of those
names make me feel good. And Brian used to call
me Lamb chomps because he said I had so much
fur right here. Yeah again, peach fun. But as a teenager,
that's like, like, you don't want a boy to tell
you that this what's happened. This is stuff that you
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never get over. When we did, I made a point
of telling he didn't even He was like, oh yeah,
And I was like, He's like, that was just like
it was cute, and I was like, it scarred me
so bad. Yes, um, probably because I liked yeah, but
scarred me so bad that I now when I did
Beach Night, I was like, I want to feel my face.
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I was like, my whole face has been threaded. Thank you.
I wouldn't let it go, but that Chewbacca, he would go.
You know, he did the same thing to me. He
told me, I'll never forget. I was wearing a sleeveless
shirt and he but this is one of the two
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times I was wearing a sleeveless shirt and he was
standing behind me and he said, you know, you can
always tell a woman's age by her elbows. And I
was like, my elbows. He's looking at my elbows, And
from that day forward, I have a king phobia of
my wrinkly elbows. Thank you, right, Gosh, I think I've
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told him that, but I also did. We had that
moment like listen what you did to us. And the
time when I was lactating because I just had a baby.
I was the only one of the whole cast that
had a baby, and I was I was trying to
be like, you know, nineteen and cute in an orange
cropped stretchy tank top and at the beach club, but
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I was lactating and it was maybe it wasn't likely
when my booze were just sweating. I don't remember, but
I don't know. It's really embarrassing, like under the boob
wetness situation during our scene, during the scene, and he
said something in the scene did yeah, but you could
not notice it. It was like so we grew up
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together like no filter, like we can say anything. Can
I go back to the nice name that Luke gave me? Yes, yes.
So he told me, um that called me camel, and
I was so offended and I was like, oh my god,
and I was like, this is so bad. Like Luke
Perry just called me camel and he's like, no, it's
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because camels have the longest, most beautiful eyes and eyelashes,
and that's you. So I love that name to this day.
He loved you so much. I can't remember him just
gushing about your camel eyes. Ah. He was a true,
true in every sense, big brother. I mean, that's one
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of the big protector came with his character and his
it Kelly and Brenda or Kelly and Brandon or is
it Kelly and Dylan? Oh Man, tell us what you
guys think because we flip flop. Yeah, I do, I go,
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I go back and forth. Is that bad? Can't I
have both? You know what if I can't just choose me,
I'm going to choose both. Well, thank you. How about
his overalls, He was definitely sporting those overalls with the
one flappy down only one side up. Was that a
nineties and they're like rolled up at the bottom, so
(27:37):
very crisscross. But that was the style, that's what it
wasn't the early nineties. I was just riveted every time
he was on camera. I don't know if that was
because I was like a fan girl and excited it
for Dylan, or if I was because of missing him
or what it was, but it was like I loved it.
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I loved watching every second of it. You know, you
guys were talking about Brian earlier, did you notice that
his voice hadn't changed yet? His little pretty pupis voice
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right got to get defensive, like what are you guys
saying like he's fine? I had two questions about that,
the voice and then the hair situation. On the at
of hair, there was a lot of hair and it
was kind of really glued into place and it never moved.
Even when his head moved, his hair didn't move. But
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I liked it. It looked cool, but it was a
mystery to me. Watching the show, I was just like, Wow,
that's some hair. There's a lot of takeaways. I mean,
even just right in they started giving they started talking.
I mean, the valley always gets a bad rap, like
no matter what you know, I think, Betty Sarah says
like I live in the valley, you know, I mean
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what I don't understand that there's always been a big
l a valley sort of like feud, right if you
live in the valley or not, you have to have
like two sides, right, I guess. So it's so ridiculous
because the valley is super cool, super chic. Now we're not.
We all live there. I moved to the valley, having
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left in thirteen years though San Fernando Valley that you know,
it wasn't chic then. It wasn't Beverly Hills, that's for sure.
Now it's like there's just as much hates when I
mentioned this, but Beverly Hills Housewives one of my guilty pleasures. Um,
they all live in the valley. They all live in Yeah,
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I wonder why I don't like that show. Okay, Um,
Betty was from the valley. Yep. Wait, but do you
know what I really liked from the from the from
the first I guess the first real episode of the series,
Um was Andrea. Did you notice that you? Wait? You
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just said Herron. I know, I was like, do we
It was Andrea in the first episode. I'm pretty sure
in the first episode you were allowed to say Andrea
and she didn't change it to Andrea until a little later.
So but it was scenes that she didn't wasn't in
so she couldn't correct. I've gotten that information from a
(30:34):
very valuable friend. So given your voice tone, we're gonna
believe you. Know. Um. But she was the cutest thing
to me. I always thought, I want to be Andrea.
She's so cute and so smart and so spunky, and
I loved her whole thing. It's pretty badass that as
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a I'm assuming you guys are sophomores and she's running
the newspaper for high school, like, yeah, she's like working
in New York Times in there. I love it. She's
really cool character. And then we kind of wanted her
and Brandon to be a couple. Hey was that going on?
Like right out of the gate in the in the
newspaper office? Was she vibe and him? And did you
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get mad at it? I always felt like it. Yeah,
I don't know. Maybe it was jealous right away of
Marianne Moore. You know, like right, what if things had
gone a different way? What if Brandon and Andrea ended
up together? Like could could that have been something cute? Yeah?
I feel like why everyone wanted that? So why didn't
(31:37):
it happen? I love that like the hot popular boy
somewhere deep down wanted the studious, smart nerd. So what
are some of your guys memories from filming that episode?
Absolutely nothing, No, I remember being You've got to remember
this when we were like on the high school squad.
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We filmed those um West Bever High scenes at Torrance
High School, and I remember being walking on that quad
with you and Shannon and Brandon for that one scene,
and all the students from the real actual school were there.
They were watching. That was my question between this school
(32:19):
in session during the time you guys were filming, was scary.
It was scary. I was terrified because it was like people,
my peers, people in my age like watching and I
didn't high school. Yeah, that's so fascinating. Yeah, so we
because their their bells would ring and they'd come on
(32:41):
out and we'd be in the middle of a take
and we'd have to wait for them to go back in.
That's when Tory has her first line of this episode.
Do you remember what that was? Tory? You, Brenda, your
brother is dope? Is that right? That was pretty good?
I think it is. Your brother is so dope. But yeah, Brenda,
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your brother is so dope. So cute, so cute, what
my real nose? Yeah? I love that vest. You were
wearing two with the stars and stripes situation, like very patriotic.
That was good. Yeah. Did you think that the clothes
were better in the second episode than they were in
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the pilot? Like, And I think that that's because there
was a change in the costume designer. The costume designer
from the pilot was different from the first episode, I think,
and they just had a different like interpretation of the
show and they wanted I think she kind of grounded
it more and made it a little more believable and
(33:46):
but still just enough like bling for Beverly Hills. The
other one was a little clueless esque in like yeah,
and and the other made the characters to trend. Yeah,
like if they would that you could be these characters.
They were so real. I like that about the wardrobe.
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I mean we started to take on a life of
their own and you could be like who, like who
are you? Are you a Kelly? Or you a Brenda?
Are you Andrea? Are you a Donna? Yeah? It's a
huge personalities and fashion and it and the Yeah, the
wardrobe really sort of picked it the character very clearly
(34:27):
into the viewer's mind, like this is what this person wears,
and this is how they you know, you identify with them.
So I thought that that was a really key part
of it, you know what. I thought that in those
quad scenes, Um, Steve Iron was like Steve was so
mean to Kelly, what a jerk? Like Hello, It's because
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he was in love with her. Hello, but he was
like he looks at her ass and he goes liposuction
maybe or so mean um by the And then in turn,
it makes Kelly's character, it makes car Kelly's character moody
and like you're you know, you're always on edge, yeah,
because you're always being like judged and picked on and
(35:12):
called out. Like yeah, they couldn't tell you what they
wanted to do with with those two, with Steve and Kelly,
that relationship they it was kind of like who is
Steve because he was supposed to be like the jerky jock, right, yeah,
and he started out that way for sure, And my
character started out very one dimensional, like really Hill's bitch girl.
And I think even in this episode, like for most
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of the first season, they were still trying to figure
out what our characters really you guys, go to the
beach and then you leave Brenda. Again, who does that
leave their friend at the beach. She I don't think
Kelly was very nice, but you hit you hit the
nail on the head when you were describing Dylan and
saying it very much was Luke. They definitely were super
(35:56):
smart in picking up the actors play the characters really
right away and started viewing the characters away from what
how they were originally one dimensional and depicted into kind
of branching out of being their own person. And so
Kelly became more Jenny's more vulnerable. Yeah, and iron I'm
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Steve became more iron like funny and charismatic, especially down
the road, like I mean sees many when your mom
has baby and then you become like an older sister
that kind of like that. I like babies. Clearly maternal
(36:45):
instincts really kicked in. Was that little sister was born? Yeah,
well I think that that Um, Yeah, I think that
Steve was just real, real mean to Kelly. And I
don't know, I thought that the whole um that's the
whole beach party was weird. The way Kelly work white
(37:06):
cowboy boots to the beach part. I loved that, but
what it looks on beach party? Why weren't Why wasn't
there one cared? Oh, I think it must have been
cold that day when nobody wanted to Well, it wasn't
the summer episodes yet maybe they went to the beach
(37:27):
because it's like everyone goes yeah those but you literally,
I think you were the first person to really create
the mom Jean, which is totally in right now and
doesn't even mean mom, but like that high waisted Jean,
I think you created that. Look, do you think that's
a pretty big statement. I don't know if I want
(37:50):
to be responsible for that. What do you mean our
kids wear that now and you they have you to
thank for it. Yeah, so I hear an icon Jenny Garden,
deal with it? Okay? Thanks? Where was that beach? Was
that Malibu? Pacific? Pali Stades? Do you guys remember you
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feel like it's upire? Yeah, it was Santa Monica, like
borderline Malibu right near sunset or those fun shoots when
you guys got when you got to go to different
parts of l A. Always whenever they let us out
of the sound stage, we were like such. She is
such a different memory of the sound stage than I do.
(38:32):
You always say we were like trapped. It was like
it was like a scary rape hotel. I hated it.
There rap hotel. Wrong with you? I don't know, but
I have very like it just represents some really weird
vibes for me. I don't know. God, I loved it.
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I loved when we were on set, we're talking about
our sound stages. These were the this is are we
actually was the Starhouse. It was a warehouse in Van Eys, California,
which is really far from Beverly Hills. And it's in
this like industrial by the Amtrak station. It would not
be grownier, and uh, that's where we shot. That's where
we started. You just said growtier. Is that a word?
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I mean, I get like in the eighties, like grow
even in the Max. Totally, yeah, totally, she's talking about Valley.
She just totally went back like that was a throwback
the Valley Girl. It was super growsy. Anyway, we we
filmed there for the first This was the first episode
that was some of those sets, like the interior Walsh
House was on that in in that warehouse, and we
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just started filming more and more at the warehouse and
less and less they would let us out on location
and I just remember being like, when are we going
out again? I gotta get out of here. Wow, did
they have lock on your dressing room? That was the problem.
They only let you off your scenes. They had me
tied up with my straight jacket chains at it walls
(40:08):
is there was the one of the interior was on
the set. But was the Walsh House an actual house? Yes?
Where is it? You guys noticed right? It was different house.
It is for the rest of the series, but it
became Costa Walsh. So a fun fact, apparently it was
a hundred and five degrees on the day the scene
(40:28):
that the Mailman was filmed. It was supposed to be
like Minnesota, but really it was just like soap SuDS,
a mixture of soap SuDS. And that was And then
they put the address and I actually googled the address.
It was like three doesn't go anywhere. It says that
it's in Beverly Hills. But when you do like Google maps,
it's not the house. Wait do you think people everywhere
(40:52):
we're getting like fan mail at that address. I mean,
it's not an actually, don't think it is. But then
when I when I looked on Google, there's fans that
have taken pictures in front of the Walsh House. I
just don't know where that is. I don't know, like
what the act, you know, where is it? It's in Altadena? What? Yeah?
(41:13):
And so is Luke's house. Still his house was so cool.
We filmed there a lot, and actually the people that
own that house have like embraced it and they let
people like come in the backyard and just look around
like they it's like a a little museum out there,
Beverly Hills, an Antonio Museum. There were a lot of
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different things about the this episode though than the pilot.
So it was interesting to see the way a show.
We'll shoot a pilot and you know, sell a show
based on that pilot, and then from the time they
stop production on the pilot to the time they start
production on the first episode, so much creatively happens with
(41:55):
the studio and with the writers and with the producers
and with the director, like everything, there's so much that
happens that the sort of so many things change, is
what I'm trying to say, from the pilot to the
first episode. And that's interesting because you know, they're really
getting a lot more input from the studio and from
the network about where they want the show to go
(42:15):
and how do we get from here to there. So
if there are a lot more kind of cooks in
the kitchen after you sell a pilot, and that you
had alcoholism a drowning and Brandon's saving a life going
to the hospital, that's a lot for what it really is.
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I was telling Jen I was shocked in the this episode.
In the opening scene, Brandon has his dream and he
has his shirt off. And we remember like Luke always
had his shirt off, but like Brandon never had his
shirt off. He was always like in his peach pit
or and I think that's like the mean time, even
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at the beach club, I don't remember him ever having
a shirt off. And we actually watched it together and
I was like, oh my god, Jason has a shirt off.
Brandon has a shirt off. Big did you get excited?
I told you he's so lookable. He said, he's he's
very lookable. I know. Here, okay, so okay, here's what happened.
(43:24):
I said, oh my god, he's so hunky. And you go,
Jason's hunky. I said, He's not hunky, he's just like
he's just really like you want to look at him.
He's really lookable. He's lookable. God, he's just so damn lookable.
That guy not to be mistaken with lickable. Wow, did
(43:46):
you ever go there with him? I think she's asking you, Tori. No,
I'm not asking Tori. Did I ever lick him? I
don't recall a time when I licked him? What used
to lick? A lot? I only licked when I was
Oh my god, used to be a liquor. I forgot
(44:06):
about that, like talking about like a dog. What is this?
Why weird would you do that? Yes? I just had
a flashback from Margi age years and she used to
lick It's true that it was like a flirty liquor.
Jason's likable. And you said it, You said he's lickable,
(44:31):
which is why I had to ask, Oh my god,
you probably licked him. I'm going to ask him if
you licked him. Ever. I'm sure he'll say it. Oh
my god, she's doing that. Thinks this again? I'm fidgeting. Okay,
(44:54):
you know what, you guys. I have been friends with
this woman in my whole life, and I know everyone
she's had a crush on, even liked a little bit
and Jason like they were always friends, but never anything
and everything we have talked about him so far, She
gets fidgety. You're messing me up now, is my bfs?
That is hilarious. I would never know this about myself
(45:16):
unless you just pointed it out. You're doing it again.
We're talking about Jason and I'm uncomfortable. Can you stop
talking about me? Year old girl? Right now? What is
that telling you? You're like, I'm a year younger? Excuse me, doctor?
What's my prognosis? Then? I have a deep rooted, hidden
(45:37):
desire to lick Jason priestly. Apparently, apparently let's let's simmer
on that. We'll take a break and maybe come back
with that or maybe come back with the nineties fashion
one or the other. Yeah, So apparently Brandon's car had
(46:05):
a name and we were mistaken, but mean chance what
we think it was, I don't remember, but we didn't
get it right. Apparently because we've had some emails, we've
had some communication, and apparently it's named Mondale for a
(46:27):
very good reason. Why don't you tell them what the
reason is? Me? Okay, so we totally had to look
this up. So it is named after I'm gonna get
it wrong. Walter Mondale, who is from Minnesota and there
in the Minnesota Twins. It's odd they would bring politics
(46:48):
into it, though, I'm surprised. Well, Brandon was very political,
and that's right, I guess so for the newspaper the
semi year political. Now I didn't I don't know who
da What you said, mon Dale is I'm not good
with politics or American history pre Nino. I would write
(47:13):
like the horoscopes. I've said it before and I'll say
it again. I am not book smart, I'm street smart.
Andrea or Andrea? When did the name change? Well, according
to gab Yea, it was Andrea from the get go. Well,
(47:36):
she said that she knew do you remember this story?
She was just telling it last summer when we did
be h that she did. She know Darren Star and
they knew someone in common that always, like would correct
people and would say, no, it's not Andrea, it's Andrea.
So when she was leaving for the audition, she actually
(47:56):
brought that into it, and she thought that they liked
that little court and so it became part of the show.
But we come to find out that in the pilot
she's Andrea and then moving forward, she's Andrea. And don't
even get you guys started on Iron Zering. You don't don't,
(48:19):
don't please say it. Don't say his name wrong. No,
his name is Iron, not Ian. It's ruined me because
I look at the name, I A N and I
say Iron. No matter what. There's an artist right now
that we that we talk about on Kiss Ian Dior.
(48:40):
And I can't tell you how many times I've called
him Ian Door Lives. Nobody ever said Iron before Iron
zer Ring. Now everyone now, you can't not say Iron right,
And it was a thing. He would take it. It
was personal. No, so much of the last we had
(49:01):
uh Maxwell Caulfield on the show and he said he
was talking about Iron and he said Ian on the
air and I was like, wait, it's Iron, but I
don't think he heard me. And I was glad you
said something because inside my heart dropped programs Sweat, break,
(49:23):
break Free, get out as quick as you can run No,
because he was you know is He always would corupt
and that was fine for him, but I always got
so uncomfortable. It was so hard. As his friends to
this day, if we're in a group and someone calls
(49:45):
him Ian We're all like shock therapy or something, and
then I just mounted, I don't know, so true. We
just want people to get it right. We just want
him to be we love him. There you go, there's
your eye in lesson anything else that you guys want
(50:06):
to touch on from this episode, because one of the
takeaways that just kind of like was a throwback for
me was seeing the Walsh's house and in their kitchen
their telephone and the cord on the telephone being fifty
ft long, and that was just so how life was
back in the early nineties. Everyone had that kitchen phone
(50:27):
house line, like it doesn't exist, that doesn't date us
at all. Like like that remember that springy chord, Like
you would stretch it as far as you could. You
could go into another room and close the door. Yeah,
now we twirl our hair. You have to get that.
When we talk about Jason Priestley, No, I feel like
(50:51):
that phone. I I that was the new style phone.
But you know because he didn't have that one before
we clamp it down on the thing and you wrote
that was from like the four that was right before that. Yeah,
so this phone was super cool. It was all like
on one thing and handheld. At the time, there was
(51:14):
still cordless phones like they existed because you guys had
him I think, like Kelly Taylor's bedroom had a cordless phone,
or Kelly Kelly had a phone inner car. Yeah, but
for whatever reason, the kitchen phone always had a chord
and it was always a hundred feet long like in
every family's house. You remember, it had a cord as well. Yeah,
where did that go? Where the cord go? That was?
(51:36):
Did it go into the engine? Like how does that?
I don't understand these things fake because I had one too.
But you know, but did you have the brick phone
that was like it was like holding a brick up
to your face with a giant antenna sticking out of it. Yeah,
we all had those for the days. Man. Well it
(51:57):
was Beverly Hills. It was given the audience just to
taste of luxury that the rest of America I guess
didn't get to experience. You know, we can we talk
about how we were talking earlier, how Shannon's hair was
drastically different from the pilot to the second episode, first episode.
You know, yeah, she got she got bangs, bangs, and
(52:22):
her hair was darker. I think darker and the almost black.
Everyone else's hair kind of stayed the same. Oh no,
Jason got rid of the mullet. Brandon didn't have a
mullet in in this episode. Oh was it different? I
don't know looking at his eyes. Their relationship Brandon and
Brenda is just it was just so pure and lovely.
(52:46):
As a twin mom myself of boy girl twins, I
only hope that they can have this fictional relationship Brandon
and Brenda did, let's hope. Do you think Brenda and
Brandon ever played doctor? Why are you gonna? Where are
you going with? Sorry that kids do it? No, they
do it. Honestly, It's not like a creepy thing. But
(53:09):
what are you getting at? I don't know. I don't know.
But in b h nine, we had a scene that
was prompted because for years it was all over the
internet that they the fans always thought there was a
little bit of sexual chemistry between and when did look
it up? Look it up? Oh god, no, don't tell
(53:31):
me things like this is so gross. I was not
an agreement. I feel like I physically scarred Sisney, just now,
are you? My worry is when they become teenagers and
I like, they have their friends over and then like
I have to be like on the lookout because there's
gonna be teenage hormones in the same age. Oh, this
is all fictional, don't worry. I'm I'm saying um so
(53:56):
much so that in b H nine O two there
is a dream sequence that Shannon has about her as
Brenda and Brandon and they make out what how do
I not remember this from that always used to write
in about that question? We gave it to them. Yeah.
I couldn't watch that those dailies. It was hard. It
(54:17):
was a complete opposite. I was literally steering this like there.
It was just so beautiful to see how much they
loved each other as brother and sister. And I actually
got teary eyed when she was reading his article and
how he genuinely wanted her opinion at the end of
the episode, like read my article for the newspaper. Like, now,
you guys have made me feel bad that my mind
(54:37):
went there, So I'm sorry the only one. I'm just
saying what every fan has expressed, every fire, every pervy
fan things
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