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March 31, 2026 45 mins

This week, Yris is joined by celebrated actress, producer and friend Eva Longoria. Eva shares what her upbringing was like, how she ended up in Hollywood and she tells us why she almost declined the role of Gabrielle Solis on Desperate Housewives. Plus, Eva tells us why she’s so passionate about helping other women and why she chooses to be outspoken about the issues facing the Latino community.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been dying to have many conversations with you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, no, I'm so excited without a mic.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Man, I'm like, okay, let's do so much.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm so excited for this episode. Welcome to the Against
All Lots Podcast. I'm your host, Iris Palmer. Thank you
guys so much for tuning in to another episode. I'm
so excited about my guest today. She needs no introduction.

(00:30):
She's a celebrated actress, a producer, a humanitarian, a Latina queen,
and my good friend.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hi, thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Are you kidding? So?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I start every episode with zodiac signs because I'm super
big in a like. I love astrology. Yeah, I think
it says a lot about a person. And I know
you're a Pisces.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm a pis My birthday's coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I know.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Last birthday was babe. The I was like, it was
my birthday I had. I was so hungover, the best.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Times, so fun. Right, Okay, but you're a Pisces.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm a Taurus?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Are you really?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm a pool?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
The men are a little different than the women.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Though, Yeah different, I heard, I heard, But.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I love women Pisces. I wanted a to be a Pisces.
They're super calm.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
My son's a Gemini.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
My son's a Gemini.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
To no is that good or bad? I'm really nervous
for women in his future.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
The Gemini. I heard the Gemini men are toxic, but.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Like we have to raise them right, like we have to.
But I already see that double personality. It'd be coming through,
I know. But Pisces women super calm, loving, They're like,
you're so empathetic and I feel like you guys bring
a lot of meaning to life.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
And I think that's literally you're literally like the Mermaids.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Of the Sea.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I wanted to be a Mermaid.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I wanted her to be a Piscy so bad because
you know, I'm crazy. I planned my kids with zodiac
sides with the Chinese count What does she do?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
She's an airy.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Later and she's an Aries. But I love Pisces. Do
you feel like those traits resident.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
That we're very lucky.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
We kind of avoid conflict, but when we do, like
when we are confrontation and yeah, but when when we
have to get into it, we're very strong about it.
But yeah, I do feel that, I feel, you know,
it's the last zodiac sign, and I do feel like
I've been here many times. Yeah, Like I'm always like, yeah,
I'm so.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Wise, you are you are?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
You are? Though, No, I just feel like I I
only need a lesson once sometimes, you know, and I'm
like I got it. Yeah, yep, yep, yep that felt wrong, yeah,
or oh this feels right.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, I'm going to keep going this way.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
But I also think like, as a Pisces woman, I
love women.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I like, you're such a girl. I'm such a girl's girl,
a girl's girl.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I love women in my life. I want to see
you succeed. Yeah, how can I help you?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
What do you need? What you do? What can I
connect you with?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I wanted to talk a little bit. Let's give him
little bitts of how we met.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yes, so we both have a mutual person that we
work with and many different things. Her name is Tazre
and she used to tell me all the time, oh
my god, you remind me so much of Eva. And
I remember when this was like early on when I
started working with her and I was like, like Gabriela Solis.
She was like yes, I was like, oh my god,
I love her. I was like, she's been on my

(03:23):
vision Board Forever. And then I don't know if she
told you about me or I don't know how it
came about, but she was like, oh my god, you're
gonna do her.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You're gonna be on her podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I remember I was on Kylie's birthday trip in
the Bahamas, and it was so funny because I told
Kim Oh, I have to go do a podcast right
now with Evil Longoria.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm like, I love her, like I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
And then I remember I went into the podcast with
you and on my trip, and the minute we got on,
there was a sense of like familia, Like it was
so like you're so down to earth, like I connected
with you, like instantly, I felt.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Super very minded.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
We're like, we're very like minded person.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
But and I will say, like they usually say, like
you can't meet like your idols or people that you
look up to because they disappoint you, and like you
have been complete opposite, Like you have exceeded.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
All my expectations.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I'm like she is, I don't even know if you know,
like what an impact you've made to my life, but
like you are that person that has like put out
her hand and literally has brought me up since the
minute I like met you, you brought me into businesses.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You put me in a movie that people.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I I, well, she will now no, no, no, But
I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Even think people know, Like that was what I originally
wanted to do and I just be an actress, yes,
but I didn't know where to start, where to go.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I didn't want to be the broke actress, like I.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Was like, I put it in that burn and I
never Yeah, but it was like a bucket list where
like at one point in my life like can I
check this off? So like I checked it off and
it's and I was like I counted her down.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I have to be prepared, like I knew everybody's lives there.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Like I was helping you, like this is fortune. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I was like I.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Am, I'm prepared because I cannot let her have to
be the best hot girl.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I say, you wouldn't have thought that was your first film.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Really, you were so good everything, because it's hard to
do it's hard to do comedy first of all, and
then to do a comedy with all those comedians, those
freaking heavyweights.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I know, but you're such a good director. You're like
in your director era, like I love.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
That for you. Yes, I love that, I at it.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
No, I love I love directing, and I love directing
comedy and I love directing women in comedy.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah. So I was like and.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
When we were like behind the scenes, like all chilling
the girls, because I was like, yeah, how many movies
have you done, They're like fifty, how many of said
like this is my first one.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
She just threw me in here.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
But they were like cheat, I've never worked with a
director like Eva. Like they were like behind the scenes
saying like the best stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
About you, and I was like so proud. I was like, good, yeah, no,
it was I cannot wait for that.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Kim's in the movie and I've known Kim for twenty
twenty two years.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm back in the day.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
We were really going to old photos of like how
horribly we dressed and and all the weddings we've been
to in each other's lives, so many fath so many okay,
but we were just laughing, and you know, she was
so excited that I was going to direct this film
because because I know how to get the funny.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Out of her.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, you know, and she's funny and people be like,
oh my gosh, she's funny.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, but we had so much fun.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
You were so I had the fath No literally I
had it looked like you guys had fun.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, no, no, it was literally the best. But yeah, No,
I just wanted to really give your clowers because you
are you really ride for your community.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, you really uplift you know, everybody that comes into
your life. And I think it's so rare in Hollywood
for people to like everybody wants you to do good,
but they don't want you to do better than them,
or they don't like try to help you. And I
feel like you really, Like I remember we were at
F one, yeah, and Press was asking you, like Eva,
like can we get a picture, and you're like, get up,
get up, get up in the picture with me, and

(07:05):
You're just.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Like you're just that person.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And I'm like, I from coming from like parents who
couldn't never even like I was the one filling out
the you know, the school forms and couldn't really help
me in life. To have one person that like really
helps me, Like I truly appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You mean so much to me, and like you've.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Made such an impact in my life. I don't want
to cry, I cry, but I just wanted to really
give your flowers because it's not set enough and people
like you are truly like rare gems, and I hope
you continue to flourish because you are a blessing to
other people and you've been a blessing to me.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh thank you. So I love helping people, like that's
the thing I love to do.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Most people like, oh, you know, you're so successful, and
I'm like, oh, I'm only successful if I make you know,
a thousand more EVAs, whether it's a business owner or
another actress, yeah, a producer.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
When I was doing this movie, uh, directing this film,
we were on the last week, there's a I said.
I told Netflix, I said, I really want Latinas to
come and shadow me if they want to be directors.
And they were like really, and I said yeah, so
I just want that to be allowed, like I want
Latinas and so they have a director program there and

(08:18):
I said, I.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Just want women aspire.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
And then I was like, but how many Latinos are
in the in the program and they were like oh
yeah yeah. So like almost daily I had different Latina
on set and I said, what do you need to
know yeah, like what And these are directors that I've
done like a one.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Million dollar No, I love that million dollar movie.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
But I nobody fights for us like that, Like even
in our contracts everything, it's like they know our worth,
but they don't want to pay us that.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
They're like you know what I mean? And it does.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
We're the consumers.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, we're the consumers. And people want to watch us,
by the way, like.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I want to watch us everybody, not just the Latino community.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
People want to see you know, diverse content, and they
want to be uh innovative, right, people. People want to
see in a And the way you be come innovative
is by having diversity in thought, a diversity in storytelling,
a diversity and who's in front of the camera, who's

(09:12):
behind the camera and uh yeah, And so for me,
I love That's why why I love being a director
so much is because I get to hire.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I get to hire three hundred people. You call the
shots and yes, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
So I get to hire. I get to hire ACTRESSLF
And I want this. I want Iris to come play
this part. I want you know this or you know
I want you know Julio to do the construction like
build the sets. I want, you know, Federico to be
my DP. I. You know, we have so much talent. Uh,
and so it really makes me mad. And like people go, oh,

(09:47):
I you know, I just don't I want to hire divers.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I just don't. I don't know where they are. They're
everywhere wherever here. We just don't get the opportunity. And
I'm in the position to give that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm like, who And I always hire with the lens
of being a woman and being a Latino. Yeah, like
that's what I do first and foremost, and so many
like I don't think studios and our industry, you know,
sit up in a tower and go let's not hire them.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think they're just not aware.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
They don't do it with our lens in which like, yeah,
let's see who we can help and let's see how
we can you know, I don't know, be different.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, well, because we're not in a lot of rooms.
Like I remember when I was selling one of my
one of the businesses that I invested in, I was
the only Latina there, like everybody else was a white man,
and I was like I'm here.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
There was a lot of words that I didn't understand,
and I was writing that shit down and I was
going back to my hotel like looking it up.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
But I was like, you are, I'm going to figure
it out.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Figure it out.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, I don't know how to do it. I don't
even know that word.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I remember when I started directing, I would go, so
I want the camera to go.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like right, like whosh.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I wanted to go like whosh and then pow and
then DPS go oh okay, so you want to you
wanna do that on a steady camera. You want to
you know, hide the zoom in a push and you
want and they would say those things and I would
go back and.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I'd write right down and you're like, now I know
what it means, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
But I just would like do sound effects of like
I want it to be like yeah boom, you know,
and then oh okay.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So I'd say I wanted to feel more intimate.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, and he goes, okay, let me let me change
the lens to one hundred and I and then I
was like what does that do? And it was well,
that would make it feel and like a great So
now now you know, twenty years later, yeah, directing and
now you're like I know everybody starting out and it
was a little fake.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It till you make it.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It is. It's a lot to like that.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, it's okay, yeah to say I don't know that. Yeah,
And I do that a lot in business too, and
finance too. There's so many financial terms. And that's one
thing with our community.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
We're not we're not taught that.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're not taught financial literacy.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Now that's why I like right now with Ala, she's eight,
I talked to her about all everything and like taxes.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Somebody's talking to me about taxes.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I was taught that we want Yeah, I was taught
like Hispanics are scared to put their money in the
bank because they're like you know what I mean. We're
not taught like the value of your business if you
have to put every dollar and show every dollar for
your evaluation.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Credit cards that were like thirty three percent interest or something,
and we're like and I was like paying it every month,
Like I was like, I'm so responsible.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah. For a friend of mine was like, bitch, get
rid of that card. Why do you do that? What
are you doing? Yeah? I was like what She's like,
you're not even paying it down. I yeah, I knew nothing.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
And so even to this day for some things in finance,
and I'm like, okay, wait talk to me like I'm
a toddler. So if I do this, then this goes
there and that goes there, and they're like yes.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
When I'm investing in businesses, I'm like, what what what
would I get back if this business?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah? And how long?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
What is my return? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
But now it's great because I do like to advise people.
I remember, you know, we were doing a deal. We
were buying a company. My hyphen and media was buying
a company and a friend of mine was like, can
I get your advice? I know you're know, like I
don't know if I can talk to you about this,
but like what should I be asking the lawyers? And

(13:06):
I go, you need to figure out an exit strategy
if this goes south. How can you get your name back,
your business back, How can you protect this or that?
As opposed to going girl, get money, get that. But
I was like, oh my gosh. The one thing I
learned is like it's almost like a prenup. You're like,
this will never go bad.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
And then I tell everybody you're prepare for the worst.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
A prenup.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you don't have anything. I
don't have anything. I'm like, geta prina. You never know
where life is going to take you. And if he
doesn't want to sign a prenup, that's a red flas.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Like he don't want to preanup because he ain't kind
of money.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Okay, let's take it back to like young Eva, like
growing up, like, did you always aspire to be an actress?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
No? Oh my god, what did you want to be? I?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I come from a very academic family. So everybody's teaching
and professors in my family. My mom's a teacher, my
sister is a teacher, and engineers, Like it was like
teaching or engineering, And so I went to college for
chemical engineering. I was going to be a chemical engineer girl.
And you know what happened in college, Like in my
junior year. Yeah, I did three years of chemical engineering.

(14:19):
And in my junior year, they made us shadow the
profession you wanted to be, and so they pair you
up with the chemical engineer or electrical engineer whatever. And
I remember I followed shadow this guy for the day
and he had a Ferrari and I was like Ooh,
I picked the right profession and then I went I
was fer I was like, yes.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
This is I'm going to be so successful at this.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
And I followed him for the day and by the
end of that day, I said, I definitely don't want
to do this. It was not fun, not passionate. It
was like so stressful. It was like and I go, God,
I don't think all of that it was worth the ferrari.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Like I was just thinking, like, oh, what would make
me more money?

Speaker 4 (14:59):
And that's when I'm like my my my senior year
in college, I just pivoted to education and then I
ended up getting my my bachelor's degree in education. But
it was it's interesting, like what you think you're going
to be and then you never that it's never that. Yeah,
And then I was. I graduated college, I had my

(15:19):
Bacheler's degree, and I had won a beauty pageant.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I was. I was mis Corpus Christie nineteen ninety years.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I could the picture.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I can totally see that I love older in that
photo than I do now, like a girl. My hair,
my makeup was crazy, and I I had accidentally I
kind of accidentally won because I wasn't even a pageant
girl either.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I was trying to win.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
You are lucky, yeah, pi ccs are lucky. Yeah, I
are lucky. We have a lucky star. Doesn't mean we
sit back and things happened to us. It just means
whatever I put my energy in mind to manifestation.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I have to be careful with what I manifest.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Me too, that ship comes true.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yes, yes, And I'm always like, m let me think
about let me, let me let me think because I
don't because I like, be careful what you wish for.
It's definitely been my life.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yes. But so that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Was I through this pageant that I won in the
prize package was like a trip to la and I
was like, oh, that'd be fun, Like I've never been, really,
I've never been to California.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
And then I got.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Here and I was supposed to be like a week
and I landed and I had to do this like
little acting seminar workshopping, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
I just want to get that out of the way
so I could go to the beach and so I
could like I just wanted to visit California, and I got.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Palm tree, yeah, yea.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Being like from a small town in Texas, I was like,
oh my god. And I fell in love with Los
Angeles and I did really well at these workshops, so
well that all these managers and agents wanted to sign me.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And I was like, sign what what do you mean? Sign?
Sign what? Like? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I didn't had no idea what that meant. And it
was like during the Latin craze, like Jlo was popping
off and Ricky Martin and to meet a local was happening,
and they were like, girl as a Latina in Hollywood,
You're gonna kill it right now. And I was like, okay,
I'm going to be an actress just like that, you
know what. I'm going to be an actress. And I
called my mom and I just never went home and

(17:13):
I called my mom. I was like, Mom, send me
all my clothes. And I had, like I think I
had like two hundred dollars in my savings account and
my mom goes, what are you going to do?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
And I was like, I'll figure it out. I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
I got to find a place to live literally found
a place to live with four roommates that were also
We're all struggling at years, and we had a one
bedroom apartment for like four hundred dollars a month and
we all could not afford. Like I was like, how
am I going to make one hundred dollars a month?
And I had and I need a car to get
around and.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That when you booked Desperate Housewives.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Now, oh that's when and I was like, okay, well
what I want to be. I want to be an actress?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Like what do I what do I do?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
And so there was like little workshops and things like
you gotta get headshots, you got to get an agent,
you gotta you know whatever. And then I did extra
work for two years because I just wanted to be
on a set and I was an extra grinding.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
But what I did when I moved to Hollywood was
I went to a temp agency to get a job.
So I was like, okay, I have a degree, so
I can tempt I can get like a job here
and there. And the temp agency hired me like when
I was there in the lobby and they were like
do you speak Spanish?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
And I go yeah, and I didn't.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I just said yes and they go, okay, great, because
it'd be great if you're bilingual, and the CEO saw
me in the in the lobby filling out forms and
he called me back.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
He goes, what do you what do you what do
you what are you applying for?

Speaker 4 (18:32):
And I said, well, anything, typing, an administrative assistant, anything,
and he goes, why don't you work here? And I
go what what is what is here? And he goes,
well you find people jobs? And I said, oh, well,
how much does it pay?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Facts?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
And he said he goes, well you can make a
base salary or you can make commission.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
And I didn't know where.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I loved my commission job, yes, but.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I was I didn't know what it meant. I didn't
know what either. I was like, what the fuck is
a base salary? What the I didn't know either of
those terms in this moment, so I asked him. I
was like, well, what is what is base salary? He
was base salary means you only make this much, but
commission means you can make as much.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
As you want. And I go that one.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
I want that one. Yeah, I want that one because
I knew. I was like, I'll bang it out and
give me a commission structure. And I did so well,
like within a month, I was fine, like I had
an apartment about my car, like, and he came back
to me and he goes, so the commission structure wasn't
set up for the volume you're doing.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's how like. I was just like, wow, so what
do I do.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
I find these jobs and I find these people and
I just put them together and he was like yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So he had always said, like, you got to get give.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Up this acting dream. You're so good in corporate America.
And I was like, no, no, no, I'm gonna be an actor.
This is like my little side thing. And I did
it so well. Yeah, because I just have a business mind.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I was like, okay, so if I do this in
your blood, yeah, And I was just like, this.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Is so easy.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Why doesn't everybody do this? And then I got one line,
and then I got two lines, and then I got
four lines, and then I got a co star. So
I really touched everyone. And then my first big break
was Young and the Restless and I was the first
Latina series regular on Young and the Wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
You almost didn't take the role of gabory A Leslie, right.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, I almost didn't because so I did Young and
the Restless. Then after that I did a show called Dragnet,
which got canceled right away, but that was for ABC,
and ABC wanted to do a holding deal for me
because they were like, oh, she's kind of talented and
she's Latina.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
So they undered luck.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
But that means you can't audition for anything. You have
to wait until they have something. But they do pay you.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Oh they do pay you.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, okay, pay you a holding fee.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
But it was just like, you know enough to survive
to not take jobs.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
And so they gave me.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
The script Desperate Housewives before I went into this holding deal.
But they were like, and by the way, there's this
show we may make, and it was Desperate out the
pilot of Desperate Ohows and I read, I just read
my part.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I was like, oh my god, Gabby's amazing. And then
at the same time.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I was offered a role on like Hawaii p D
or some Hawaiian cop show I can't even remember.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
And that was two series.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Uh. I offered it to me like I didn't have
to audition Desperate Outside I had audition. We didn't know
if it was going to be.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Like a sure job here and maybe here.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
And then this weird script called thestids because it was
like a drama dy it wasn't really a drama. I
wasn't read a comedy, and I was like, I don't
think that's going to go anywhere I'm going to. I
think I'm going to do the Hawaii cop thing. And
then when they told me I was a uniformed cop,
I didn't want to wear the outfit.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I was like, oh, I have to be in that
like thing all the time. No, no, babe.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
But I did want to go to Hawaii because I
hadn't been no WHI right, And I was like, Oh,
in Hawaii that sounds fun. So then I did end
up auditioning again and I had to go back so
many times until I got the role of desp perhaps
Stairs and that's really Yeah, that changed my life.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, for sure, that was crazy. It was crazy even
till this day. Do you know, Like I don't know lately,
it's just been all over I.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Know, TikTok. Yeah, yeah, especially Gabby's lines.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
People know Gabby and Juanita like Ala be in the
car and I'm like, what are you listening to? She
was like, Mom, it's it's it's Gabriella and and I'm
like you know.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
That's Eva.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
She's like what, I'm like, that's Eva died to meet you,
by the way, Like she dances so good?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah she does.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh my god, she does.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I wish I danced like that me too.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I was like, dang, I should have wish some of
my mom put me in dance.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
So you've definitely like negotiated a lot of businesses, a
lot of contracts, and let me tell me, I don't.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I feel like I've said the story, but I haven't
said it in a long time. But like when I
was I was a headhunter and auditioning, so I was
working at the temp agency and still working, and then
when I got Young in the Restless, it didn't pay anything.
It didn't pay as much as what I was making
at the Temp agency. So I kept that job a
job while I was on Young and the Restless. And

(23:09):
I was hiding the fact that I was an actress
to my clients because then they were like, I didn't
want them to think I was a dumb.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Actress or like I wasn't smart.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Until one day one of my clients goes, are you soapropera?
Are you and young and the rest is? And I said, oh, no, No,
that's not me.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's not me.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I would like deny it because I didn't want them
to think I wasn't good at this job.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
You're like, I want you to take the ch take
me seriously.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
As this corporate person.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
And then I would be in my dressing room doing
my work and negotiating salaries for people and for one
K stock options.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
You've always worn multiple hats.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I've always had ten jobs.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yes, always, I'm in my dressing room at young of
the rest is I'm like, okay, they're like ready on set.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I'm like, okay, all right, I'm gonna have to call
you back.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
And then I would go and act and then I
would come back to my dressing room and I would
do it so like I've always been a hustler. That
was always, that was in my blood. Yeah, And that's
why then I was on Desperate Housewives. And when I
was on Desperate house I still felt like I'm not
reaching my full potential. And that's when I knew I
wanted to direct and I wanted to produce, and I
wanted to do more than like stand on a mark
and say lines.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, and what do you feel like? What do you
feel like?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Every woman should negotiate in a contract or a business deal.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
That like an exist strategy, like how do I how
do I get out of this? How do I you know,
if this thing goes south of this partnership? If you
and I started a business, yea, and we just didn't
like each other anymore? Who gets ownership of this thing
that we made? And is my name on it?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Like? Do I keep the name? Do you keep the name?

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Like it's always you know that kind of not preparing
for the worst, but being prepared to having the infrastructure
set and ready so that it's not a headache and
we can go our separate ways. Right, Yeah, girl, go ahead,
go ahead. I know it's fine, it's fine. We got
a good contract.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
God go dad. You know what, we both get something
out of this. Great.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I don't like conflict as I don't like conflicts, So
let's figure that out now. And we know you know,
so you have to do that in any in any
you know, if you're investing, Yeah, when do I get
my money back? How do I get my money back?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
What happens if I lose my money in this?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Like all the uncomfortable questions that you're uncomfortable to ask,
ask ask them, speaking of uncomfortable, don't you feel like
I mean not don't you feel like but do you
feel like being a successful woman and dating, Yeah, can
be intimidating for men? For men, yeah, but also like

(25:35):
I mean, do you feel like it's intimidating, Well, I'm.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Married, but you're talking about like like when I was young, Yeah,
when you were younger, Like, I know, it's a crazy
because I've always had been in a relationship like when
Desperate Housewives hit, I was already with Tony.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
And and but do you feel like your success bothered
him or like he.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Was he was I ever met men like that? I haven't.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
That's so good.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, no, like.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
He because I feel like a lot of men say
like they want a successful woman until they have a
successful woman and then it's like, oh, it's too much
for me.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
So, like you have dated pretty good men that are
very secure and like your success hasn't bothered them.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
No. No, when I was married to Tony didn't bother
him at all.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
And he was in such a different world as well,
like being an athlete, and you know we were like
and we both were like he was like you know
a rookie and I was the baby on the show.
So we kind of come into our our primes together
time and together, so we lean on each other for that.
But I will tell you my husband.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Pepe, he is.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
The biggest cheerleader.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, and that's where I will say that, like, yeah,
that's where, like you know, if anyone I feel like
best Bengoria, He's like, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I know.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I feel like he is. He's such a gem like
for you, Like, he's such a gem. He lets you
be you, and I think that's so important, Like I
feel like you don't have to shrink yourself for him.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Ever.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
He loves when I'm like, he'll sit back and let
you Like in Miami, he.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Like sits back, he lets you do you like it's it's.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Like dancing on the table. Yeah he's like go but no.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
But like in my businesses and because he's a businessman,
he knows what it takes to be successful and he's like,
go do it. Be that person. And it just makes
him when I shine, It really makes him happy. And
I him like I love being missus Buston. I love
you know, being this executive's wife. I have to make

(27:30):
dinner because he has a you know, he has clients
coming over and I got to you know, figure out,
you know what am I going to make and how
many are there and you know what do they eat?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
And so like I'm super.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Domestic yeah, and also a boss bitch, you know what
I mean. And I think, like it's okay to be
all those things.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, And I think like there's yeah, and that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's like people try to balk to and like you
can you're either a stay at home mom or you're
either this or you're neglecting. But it's like we both
do it all. Like we have men, we have kids,
we work, we have businesses. Like there, you can do
it all, not at the same time.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But and you need.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Help, but you need a village and you need to
create your team.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
But it's doable.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like some days you're going to be fifty percent short
on motherhood and you're going to be one hundred percent career.
But like it's it is doable with the right people
and the right partner.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
And also like it's sometimes you do want to sit
back and not drive, you know it at home, or
I don't want to pick the restaurant you pick the
I don't want to plan the vaker like.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Being in your soft feminine era while being a boss
is like yeah, that's it's really like depends on your mood,
right too.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Like some days it's like, yeah, I don't want to
do anything. I don't you pick the restaurant today?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I mean, and my husband is like super Mexican. It
comes from that like macho, but he's not, you know,
at all wanting to dim my light or feeling superior.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
And I love that because I think that's just that's
like the like the stereotype of like Hispanic men, like
they want to be in your ID with you, like
they're like, you.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Know, yeah, but no, that's what's that's a good partnership.
Like it's a lot of give and take. And you know,
now you know, as soon as I wrap this movie,
now it's gonna be about him.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
And now you know, we sweech.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
You guys are really a team.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So I think you've defined the odds twice by more
than more than multiple times, and I think people don't
talk about that, Like you've had a lot of successful moments,
but to keep being successful, it's a whole nother beast.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, and how do you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Well, yeah, no, I feel like I refuse to believe
that my greatest success is behind me. Uh huh you
know what I mean, Like, I think it's still in
front of me.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
And people, oh my god, you were on that big
show Deashboard Household. Ye.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
I was like, oh and that was twenty years ago.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, that was twenty years ago. Yeah,
I'm not I've ridden that wave to the shore. Now
I'm on another wave.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
And then I have my businesses, I have my directing career,
I have like different dreams and different goals and that
just keeps changing and evolving.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
But yeah, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, like when people like people tell me like, oh,
you're so successful, You're so so, and I'm like, I
haven't even reached my potential.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Like I'm like I'm just starting, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
It's like i feel like I'm always like right now,
I'm like I'm in the grind right now, like you know,
and it's like, what are you grinding?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
But I'm like for.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Life, for all of my goals, Like I'm like I'm
not stopping.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, I feel that way too. Yeah, And it's not
a money thing. It is I'm I'm driven by creating. Yes,
whether it's a business, whether it's a film, whether it's
my creating, my child, my pro creating. I love creating.
And so that's what I that's what I like, That's

(30:57):
what I'm chasing all the time. Oh what if I
created this brand, did this? Oh what if I created
this film that told this story?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Oh what if I created a partnership in philanthropy that
really sustained itself after five years?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Like, I just love.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Creating, and so I think if if that is your desire,
then money will follow, success will follow, like if you
really are doing it for the right reason.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I always say that, and I always say there's no
such thing as like a get rich scheme or like
money over. Like you have to put in the work.
Like people especially nowadays, like they just don't want to work.
They think it's just going to like fall from the sky.
And I'm like, babe, everybody gets to where they are
by putting in the work.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's a lot of work. Yeah, it
is a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
And you know, I think also now that I'm older,
now that I'm you know, fifty. Now I'm on the
other side of fifty that it's so easy to see
those opportunities worth chasing. Where when I was younger, you know,
whenever I was your age, I want to say yes

(32:02):
to everything, and I think young people should like, Yeah,
let me try that, let me do that, let me
let me move there, let me move to Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Let me let me try to. Let me say yes
to everything.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, that was that was for me.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Like this year, i was like, I'm going to do
everything that I'm uncomfortable doing, Like I'm just going to
say yes, like yes, so podcast yes to acting yes,
like because normally I'm just I'm such a tourist, like
we stay in our comfort and we're like.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm comfortable, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, I have money to pay my bills, like I'm good,
you know, and it's like no. Also, like opportunities are
only going to knock for so long, so it's.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Like take them yes.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
So like that's that's like what I'm in right now.
Like this year, I'm like I'm I'm I'm doing it
like I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Y era yeah or you know, i't no era.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Really, I'm like I'm like, yes, opportunities.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
No to like things that drain you drain me, or
like just going out or like I'm very intentional. If
I'm going, I'm going for your birthday that I love
you someone you know, to celebrate someone that means something.
Show up for your business because I'm here to support you,
you know what I mean. But like just wasting my
time now, I'm so sorry. I have kids, I'm tired,
like I'm running businesses like no, I know, I want

(33:08):
to be in.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
My pajamas watching a good show.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I love being at home and you know, I know.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I love like hearing people's stories and I love an
unseen scene. So like a scene that people don't know,
or like a person that like helped you in your
career that like people don't know, or something that like,
let's say a scene that really resonated with you. Like
for me, I walked into a Buddhist temple because I
was like.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
What what do Buddhist believe in?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
And this lady was like taught me the chant and
then told me, you know, make a vision board chant
for sixty days and everything on your vision board is
going to come true.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
And that's how I started doing vision boards.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
This was like twenty twenty thirteen, yea, and you were
on my vision board, like I had put like I
want a Chanel bag, I want to roll, like everything
that I couldn't afford. I just put everything on my
vision board. Now I'm very intentional with my vision board
because everything came true and like manifestation everything. But like,
people don't know that I just walked into a random
Buddhist temple and like that changed my life on like manifesting,

(34:06):
and like I don't share my.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Vision boards with nobody. They're so personal for me. They're
so I do them every year now.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
But like, what's an unseen scene of your life that
people don't know?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That people don't know?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, I was surrounded by amazing women as a child.
I have three sisters, I have nine aunts. You know,
I only have women in my family. And all the
women in my family are successful. They're independent, they're financially secure,
they're well traveled. Like I remember my aunt brought me

(34:39):
back a doll from Hong Kong one time, and I
was like, what.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
We're family.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It was like a dream.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
And we weren't like, we weren't rich, we were just
everybody was cool. You know what I mean, like I
didn't have new shoes all the time. But I just remember,
like my aunt Elsa. She she was really really influential
on who I am. Taught me how to cook and
taught me had to be a you know, make a
make a house a home and uh and really how
to carry yourself and public and how to dress and

(35:07):
I dress for the job you want, and you know,
she was like definitely, uh, that person that changed my life.
When I said I'm gonna I'm moving to Hollywood, I'm
going to stay in Hollywood, and she said, well, okay,
just grow where you're planted. And I was like, grow
where you're planted. And she's like, if that's where you
want to that's where you want to be. Plant yourself,

(35:29):
put your roots down, grow and just grow.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And I was like okay.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
And then she goes, well, honey, you know, no matter
what you do, you're going to be successful. And she
always said that, like if I was going to be
a dentist or a chemical engineer or a lawyer or whatever,
she goes, well, you know you're you're going to be successful.
So yeah, but everybody around me believed in eat in me,
and my sister's in them, and so they were all like, oh,
that's cool, you're going to be an act Like they

(35:55):
didn't go like you sure you want to be an actor.
They were like, oh my god, that's so great. You're
going to be an actress. Like they saw it too.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Wow, that's so important because with me it was the opposite,
Like everybody was like, you're gonna do a business like
oh no, Like my dad was like, no, mih just
go stay in school, and like they no one saw
the vision like I even like my ex husband at
this time, I was saying, you can't make that much
money with lashes, and I'm like, oh no, I'm good.
And I'm so so stubborn that like when people don't, like,

(36:23):
I'm like, all I need is myself to believe in me.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm gonna do it, you know.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Like and even in businesses when I've invested it, I
just have a gut feeling. Even your financial advice wor
be like no, don't do this or it's not a
good deal, I'm like, no, I believe in the product.
I feel it like I'm gonna do it, you know.
But with me, it was the opposite, Like I feel
like your family. That's how I am with Aila. I'm
very like, yeah, you know what I mean, you could
do anything, like very you want to do that, let's
try it.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I want to create clothes, mom, Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Like yeah, I think it's so important. I really that. Really.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
People were like, why are you such an optimist? I'm like,
I was just born that way.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Like the glass is absolutely half full. I think it's
all gonna work out in this great I remember.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
When I was auditioning for Despert else, I was auditioning
for for Hitch as well, that movie with Will Smith
and Aba Mendez and I remember being in like the
waiting room with like all the other Latina actresses and
I didn't get it, and I go, oh my god,
that means something else amazing is coming.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I always tell you love that. I'm like, Babe, they're right,
You're going to book the right role. Don't worry. She
like today booked this.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I'm like no, I'm like, it's probably wasn't meant for you.
Like whatever is meant for you, it's going to be
for you, and it's okay, you have something bigger coming.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Like I just believe that.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm like, oh my God, that means something bigger's coming.
I never have very tough skin that way. I don't
take anything personal and I don't have an ego when
it comes to things like that.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Like that's the best way you can be, that's the
best way.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
People were like, okay, can't do it. I'm like, okay, sure.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
We end the show with dropping gems, dropping gems, so
let's drop a jam for everybody listening.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Oh wait, but you know another unseen thing. Sorry, another
unseen thing was Delores What I meant. You know, I
come from a very philanthropic family. My sister has special needs,
so we were very involved in charities and giving back
and community programs and things.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And so when I moved to.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Hollywood, I immediately found my group of philanthropic friends. Like
they were like the ones who did the marches, and
the ones who were like advocating for farm workers and
the ones. And so I was, you know, at somebody's
house for dinner. I was not famous. I was just
a little Latino with a bunch of other Latino activists
and Dolores Wuerta was there in the living room and

(38:34):
she was like talking to all of us, and she
looked at me and she said, you know, what do
you do? And I said, I'm an actress. Well, I
mean I'm pursuing acting. I'm waiting to make it. And
she said, well, one day you're going to have a voice,
so be sure you have something to say.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I was not famous.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
I was not And that's when I had already decided
I wanted to get my master's degree and knel studies
and went back and.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Did all that.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
But it was I was like, Okay, what am I
going to say? What do I want to say? What
I want to say, I'm gonna have a voice one day. Oh,
I wonder what you know? And so carrying that with
me throughout my whole life, that was like a very
big moment in my life that I never will never forget.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Where I was when she told me that.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And you you are so like loud about like everything,
you believe in everything.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
You said, Yeah, like you know me.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
But also at the same time, like I was talking
about this with other people, especially with like us being
Latin as we we and being in the Latino community
of influencers and celebrity and all of that, like we
have a cross to bear, which is like speaking out
for our community, speaking against the harm that's being done

(39:48):
against our community, you know, whether it's ice or immigration
or you know, uh uh disenfranchising us to vote.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
You know, there's so many you know.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Socioeconomic inequality, environmental racism, like whatever. Housing, we have so
much to do with and disproportionately more than other communities.
And so I for me, it's important to always speak
out and to you know, carry Lavandera always because I'm

(40:22):
just a proud Chicana. I'm a proud Mexican American, and
for me, that's what I want to do. But I
never shame people for not speaking out. So I feel
like sometimes our communities like they're not saying enough, they're
not doing enough, Like people are doing what they can. Yeah,
because you don't know their status. They might be in
a mixed status family, they might not be able to
speak out. They might be in their own process of something, and.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
That everybody's why is different. I always say that, but
I feel the same way. I feel like when things
are happening, especially with our Latino community, is my responsibility
to like say something.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
But that's give the resources, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
I'm like, great, but it may not be right for her,
for him. And that's okay. If you want to march,
go march. If you want to repost, repost, you want
to donate, donate, do it the way you want to
do it. But I think a lot of times our
community doesn't give enough grace for there's a little bit
of grace for for other people. And we have to
recognize our allies. I'm an ally, you're an ally. I'm

(41:21):
always going to stand up for my community. So let's
let's really support, you know, the people that we know. Like, okay,
let's focus on let's focus on the problems. Yeah, and
you know, save save all of this energy to fight
the problem exactly, attacking each other exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Sometimes I feel that happens.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Let's drop a gem now for everybody.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
What a gem? Just like words of wisdom?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, just like words of wisdom, Like a gem that
you would like to just drop for anybody listening or inspire,
like inspirational.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Well, I will say, let me tell you that I
live my life by this quote from Angelo, which is
people will forget what you said, they'll forget what you did,
but they'll never forget how you made them feel. And
I always say that if you're working your way up
to something. If you're interacting with human beings on a
daily basis, treat them well, treat them well, don't ever disrespect,

(42:19):
mistreat you know, anybody that's in your path, be the
light of their day. And that's how like when I'm
on set, I'm like, I'm going to be the light
of everybody's day, and the interaction I have will be
an interaction with God, because God is going to come
through me. And I'm not, you know, I don't. That's
why I don't have a temper. We're running behind. It's

(42:41):
not I'm not really have anxiety. I'm not stressed out.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
It's it's going to work out. Could you do me
a favorite? Could you move you know, could we move
a little faster? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
And I always find too like as a director too
and being on a movie set, everybody's professional, everybody's doing
their job, but that last extra mile or the I'm
going to move faster, I'm going to do better, I'm
gonna evil would really like this if I did this,
that's an act of love. And they'll only do that
extra mile if they like you, and they'll only put

(43:11):
in their best foot forward if you're treating them well
or if they know you respect their work and like
you could be the prop guy who brings this cup.
And yeah, Tony, this was the best idea you had.
I love this cup.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
And people will go the extra mile and then they go.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
They go. Everybody on the set goes the extra mile
because they go. She knows how to treat people. Yeah,
treat people.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Well, yeah, that's important. I love that. I was gonna say,
prices are also very spiritual.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
They're so spiritual, spiritual, so spiritual. Being the light. I
want to be the light.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
That's all my meditations about, you know, keeping light within me,
staying out of darkness, whether that's the darkness of the
world and evil spirits like that, but also the darkness
of somebody's mood, the darkness of you know, somebody else's ego,
darkness of you know, a bad decision.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna stay in the life.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
You like time to go.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna stay in my light.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
You can't, you can't really affect my day because I'm
full of light and I have enough light for all
of us.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well, you are a light.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
You've been a light in my life, and thank you
so much for coming and blessing our podcast with your presence.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
I'm so happy that you're doing this. People need to
hear your voice, they really do.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thank you for believing in me, you like whatever you
saw in me. Thank you so much. In my heart,
I still see think I do.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Think you haven't even tapped into that barrel.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
It's coming, it's coming.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of
Against All Odds. I'm your host, Iris Palmer, and we'll
see you next time. Against All Odds is a Hyphenet
Media group production in partnership with Iheart'smikuda podcast Network. For
more of your favorite shows, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
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