Gillie & Wallo Speak On Podcasting Journey, Diddy, Drake vs. Kendrick | ALL THE SMOKE

Much love to 'The City Of Brotherly Love' who showed OUT for our ATS live tour! On the latest ALL THE SMOKE, Matt & Stak are joined by Gillie and Wallo to talk shop, share some incredible stories, and have some fun in front of a sold out Philly crowd!

The guys reflect on their podcasting journeys and explain how they met. They also speak on Gillie's rap career, debate who won the beef between Kendrick Lamar & Drake, give their take on Diddy's current situation. Plus, they answer a ton of fan questions from the crowd!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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(00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
I need y'all to make noise right now. All the
soap podcasts I Stephen.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
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Matt Barnes just to be able to make some noise balls.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, okay, what's so? What so? What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Billy?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
What up?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Gotta be loud in that man? What's happening? And what's
happening in Philly? Old the spokes? I know I'm at home.
I feel like I'm at home. What's happening Philly? What's
up now? Y'all?

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
We appreciate everybody coming out tonight, man, right now we
want to welcome to the stage, our brothers in the space.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Something we funk with.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Heavy Philly's very old Gilly and Wallow.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Wall I see the wallow. I see a couple of jumpers.
They look like you had jumpers, Wallow? So who else
got something? You right here? Don't you do it? Don't
do it? Ohiggas breaking out here. Let's get this started.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Man, how do y'all I mean, obviously you've told this story,
but let's let's tell it in person. How do y'all
get as close as you guys are? Obviously you've been
through what you've been through. Gilly, you had your route?
What did you guys really kind of connect? Connect and
really start making plays.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
I was his manager when he was rapped back in
the day.

Speaker 8 (02:22):
Okay, so after I started major figures, I managed him.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
I had him doing some free shows and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah? See who
looked like the manager?

Speaker 7 (02:32):
I looked like I was more of a manager than he.
Ain't had no jurey on you as you can see.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
So he was back when he used to run up
on the corner and everybody used to run.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
No, they did not run. They know I never seen
nobody run. That's just nobody. Well that was when I
was That was his first show he did. That was
that dance. Since he did the show, I got two
hundred dollars. He didn't know about it. It was a
promo run. I didn't want to promo run and he
did the show for free. I walked away with two hundred. Yeah,
you know, still managing shit these days.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You still kind of the brains behind the operation though, right, you.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
Know what to think about me?

Speaker 8 (03:05):
And Becuz I'm gonna say this, man Wade, they canna laugh,
he can laugh. We know No, we just know our parts.
We know how to play our parts. I'll be in
the field more. I go and do the research. And
when when it's that time, I called Gil, come on,
we gotta go. We gotta go do this meeting, and
then it come and then then it's time to go
to legal, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
So, I think what's so great about us? We know
our roads.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
I think we come from an environment whereas though everybody
ego egoed.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Out, I could do it by myself.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
I don't need nobody.

Speaker 8 (03:34):
And we understand our roads in the organization, and we
understand where we're trying to go, and I think that
helped us coming from a city like Philadelphia. It's a
real hard city because in Philly, a lot of us
are subscribed to being thorough.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Cool and tough for no reason.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
It ain't it ain't paying no bills, it ain't sending
no kids to college. Me and Gil cracked that whole
shit and laugh at it. So you know when you
see us, we just laughing and shit like, this is
just a joke. This is a joke, you know what
I mean. So we just try to stay focused on
that and the main goal and to show young kids,
because the young kids they really what it's about because

(04:11):
they soaking up the game.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
As adults, they already got to figure out.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
You can't tell them nothing. They stuck in their way sometime.

Speaker 8 (04:17):
So I just we just try to focus on the
youngins and just try to show them it's another way.
There's another route you could take in it's media route.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The media route.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
You know, you can basketball players money out this motherfucker,
and football players money baseball money. So it's like you
could take the media route. You ain't got to know
how to play ball, you know what I mean. You
ain't got to know how to wrap. You can just
take another route. And that's what we're just trying to
show them through the platform the summer.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Everything he set up. That's my assistant. Well you know
got you it's working. This is a beautiful assistant.

Speaker 9 (04:51):
Get your ass out there, Nigga, get to find some plays.
Bring them back.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I take that, he said, bring them back. He felt
so pleased today.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Take us back before the business side hit when you
guys are running around the streets of Philly, talked us about.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Them days you're talking about back when damn they gave
you to jumpsuit. That's fucked up, Willow.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
That you know what you mean that nigga, that's that
was his main fit.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
To every day. That was that Nigga's main fit his
whole life.

Speaker 8 (05:28):
You know, that was a fucked up picture because that
day he didn't bring he didn't he didn't he didn't
get a card, a food card. So he just wanted
to come on a visit to talk about nothing. Nigga,
Why you gro I smoked the whole ride up there,
that shit was like three hours.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
That was like this.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
They didn't have to get out spring my own fucking
body down with cologne. And fucking ozim. I forgot to
get the card, nigga.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
I'm like I didn't. I didn't want you to come
and sit here and talk. Nigg You think I want
to come out myself talk. You could be something I
could have been making me a spread and the table.
Yeah that was a fuck up day. But no, you know, for.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Those who don't know, how long were you down? For?
Twenty years? So from what age to what? Age? Seven?

Speaker 9 (06:08):
Seventeen and thirty seven? Damn, but I ain't gonna lie.
He had special privileges like his twelfth year in.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm did serious. They turned his sail into a salon.

Speaker 9 (06:18):
He was the first hairstylist in prison. All the niggas
that had braids, he was up there hooking them niggas
the fuck up, giving them the iverson joints. And it's
a bad motherfucker's called while leader salon.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Damn.

Speaker 9 (06:31):
See these niggas think I'm joking and ship.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Did anybody here?

Speaker 9 (06:38):
Ricky Minaj, Kevin the Stallion, he on say loul him.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Take no comline. Usseh was a hustle man.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
I don't know what he's talking. I'm not agreeing with nothing,
and I'm not I'm.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Just saying, I don't know you did what you had
to do. I don't know what he talking about. They
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So, Gilly, your run was music? How'd you fall in
love with that? And what was that journey like for you?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Honestly, I'm fell in love with music because of him.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
I took this. I keep telling you I was this
nigga manager. He thought he was too cool.

Speaker 9 (07:14):
You gotta understand I had one rap, right, I wasn't
really no rap, but it's just my mouthpiece was way
flying and all these niggas right, he wrote me to
every neighborhood and said it's back. He listen, my cousin
liked that. Listen to how stupid this shit sound. He
taking me the niggas that's been rapping their whole life, that's.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Jumping out and saying. My cousin liked that. He only
got one rap, but he liked that niggas like one
rap the fuck.

Speaker 8 (07:41):
And then I'll be like rap and here raps, And
that means I was his fucking manager.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Mo the fuck you.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
Why would I be taking a nigga in the corners
to say, you're like, hey, here be bus one go ahead,
he just starts spitting.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I mean.
I wasn't into that shit. He was in there that shit.

Speaker 8 (07:57):
No, it was just that at the time, you know,
Philly only had like about a couple of groups. I'm
talking about you know Will but that's big. I'm talking
about Locally, they had like ram Squad task for one
hundred x this back my day. We're watching that. I mean,
where Tyreek Wallace at. So he used to sell my
first tapes. Listen he was listening.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Used to come up short though, nigga, but it's all
shut up.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Nigga, I introduced you to that, nigga.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Shut up. But you used to go in this store
and steal What the fun?

Speaker 7 (08:25):
He is still out of there?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Rik did? He used to steal all the tapes. I
didn't think you know, read a little bit. I didn't
think you knew.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
So so back then they had the top Fly mom
and pop store had all the tape, all the music
off of Broad and Theery, and that's where people used
to do in stores, like the local rappers.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
And so it was like none of them.

Speaker 8 (08:45):
Dudes would let me be a part of the ramp
group and ship I was like, all right, cool, fuck it,
I'm gonna go start my own joint.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
That's when I went and got him, found him, signed
him up, and we started making figures up. We started right,
what was this first deal?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Huh? What was the split on this first deal?

Speaker 7 (09:01):
He ain't get nothing nothing. It was just about you're
gonna cause listen.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
He didn't.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
He didn't believe listen. This nigga did not believe that
rap shit work.

Speaker 8 (09:08):
I'm one of them dudes that be like when I
lock in this, I'm like, no, cuz this nineteen ninety five,
I'm in Philly, I got a ramp Pages magazine.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
I'm like this nigga right here. He that nigga. I'm
showing the masterp like that nigga trash. I said, all right,
this ninety five, I got the music. Him and Dice
Raw they telling me, oh he.

Speaker 9 (09:24):
Man, fuck all it was you listen to so we
chump in the fucking car, throw this little cuz this
that nigga.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
But still.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
So he can sound like he gotta take a shit
back one thing about this shit.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Take this shit off, man.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
I'm reading the articles, and he talked about how he
making he's selling ninety thousand units in a month. I'm like,
this money cuz this independent they running through fucking tyree
type short. So so he didn't want to listen. I said,
just do what I tell you. So I put him
in the studio right and I will always make my
man Peanut make the beats. Bump was running around somewhere,
Bump Jay, he was living down the block. I'm like,

(10:00):
you know, I'm letting anybody know I got I got
a new artist and my managing slash on my label,
and we started.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
What was your labor cart? Where was your labor car?

Speaker 8 (10:08):
You get nothing, records you ain't supposed to get nothing.
I'm changing your life, nigga, because you ain't want to
rap anyway. So the whole time, this nigga want to
r U A day man. It's and that ship man.
While we going to I'm like, cuz, let's go to
the studio. We going to the studio. I got a
studio line up. Hey, you just gotta show up. You
five blocks away from the fucking studio, So I gotta
go to the crib go get him.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
I'm taking him to the studio. He don't even know
that he hot for like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I had the car.

Speaker 8 (10:34):
Getting me take me the nigga you was driving. You
was my driver plus my rapper. Fuck I didn't. I
wasn't driving at the time. All managers don't have a car.
So vexed nigga. We was driving because of NeSSI car, nigga,
So what that wasn't are you acting like that was
your car? Were in the car from nothing the case,

(10:55):
So I had to think about this. So so so
we're driving around and then he never really realized that shit.
So the whole time I be going hard, I said,
come up with the name Major Figures, like, we gotta
get the logo done. I'm pushing it. Next thing you know,
I get pinched, I get locked up. So I guess
that's why I never took them serious. I'm like, you
got like a year out here, bro, No, but.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Listen, you know you're getting booked because I'm gonna tell
you what happened. You gotta go back home.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
When I pulled it, listen with girlfriend, Miss listen when
I pulled the joint up. But see, see, I'm the
bigger guy, I will say, a big man. When I
pulled a jawin off and they came.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
And got us. Gil told him where I was at.
He hiding under the car.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's how they got me.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
I tipped it. I wanted did the bit though I
ain't say he you know what I mean. I ain't
tell nobody because I didn't want to mess up his rappings,
you know what I mean. But whatever the case is, uh,
he did. I ain't a one time I called him
from prison, right and I was like, what's up Cuz
he was like, yo, Cus, this ship moving.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
I'm like, what you mean? He said, this figure shit moving?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Man?

Speaker 7 (11:54):
They and so I got some pictures.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
I'm like, at that moment in jail, I realized, Damn,
we really can make some shit happen if we really
stick to it in the hood, like something outside. Because
niggas used to think. Niggas always thought I was crazy.
Woy I looked crazy, be talking some dumb shit.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
I'm like, no.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Once I read something the lock and I'm like, yo,
we can do it. I'm sitting in the cell, so
I'm like, damn, this shit popping. But it's popping on
the logo level. A. I'm seeing posters, I'm seeing people
with jackets and sweatshirts and logos mf on there. I'm like, damn,
that shit pop. And one day I come from the yard, right,
I'm walking the yard with Dallas Penitentiary, and they had
sta you remember the lady named Sita that the cartoon

(12:31):
they used to be on Bett. I come in from
the yard sitting down like damn, taking my sneaks off,
and she plant that video. Come on, yeah, that's up.
I don't know what the fuck it is because I'm
in the mountain. I'm just like I'm looking. I'm like, damn,
I see that shit.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
The first thing I'm thinking I could get me a
lawyer because I know I wasn't getting my management money
because because he was the fuck out there. I'm like,
this nigga gets show money. I'm like, I gotta get
my I'm trying to get with the old head in law.
I beut, know, I need you to put a lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
In for me.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
Right, So he like, all right, I got you. I'll
tell him what it was. He said, Man, I don't know,
I said, he said, with a contract. I said, nanny house.
I don't know where it's at. I mean so, but
when I seen that shit, that shit hit me in
my head, and I was like, oh, we really could
go to the next level because just some shit that
was thought about in nanny basement in North Philly, in
the ghetto, and that shit took it to BT and

(13:23):
these dudes going around doing shows. They was like number
one on charts. I said, oh, no, fuck that. I
just started reading more, reading more. I'm calling home from jail.
He telling me about all these niggas becuz they blackballing
me this and of thirty.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'm telling him, I'm telling him, I'm talking to him like, nigga,
who the fuck you think you?

Speaker 7 (13:41):
Is you tripping?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Nigga? You ain't you?

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Ain't that hot nigga? Use a local rapper?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Nigga? Fuck is you?

Speaker 8 (13:45):
That's how I'm talking to a nigga on the phone
because I don't understand impact because I'm in the cell.
So what's so funny is that now we're running the
dudes that used to work for MTV, b T, Universal, Rapidas,
and they'd be like, yeah, Gil, I remember when we
got the call from Universal Records. They said, if MTV
play any more of your shit, they're not giving them

(14:06):
no new music. I said, damn, nigga, you wasn't lying.
Then we run into somebody for I'm telling me, right now,
everything is revealing itself and it's revealed era, you know,
and it's like niggas really black.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
We bumped in the one nigga said, yeah, Gilly was
on the list.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
They told me that straight up? Why because, man? Why
because number one, I didn't grow up no rapper. I
ain't had cable TV, so I never seen no videos.
So you gotta understand. When I'm meeting these niggas, I'm like, man,
this nigga calling the man me and why little robbed
the shit out this nigga. Man, That's how I'm looking
at these I understand that. That's how I was looking

(14:41):
at these niggas.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Real talk.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
You talk about a young kid coming straight up. You
gotta understand, bro. I started rapping my third song I
ever did in my life. The fourth song I ever
did in my life was number one on the Countdown
on the radio. I wrote that I had a bit
of war between all the labels, and I had like
ten raps. Think about that, I had like ten raps,

(15:10):
like literally the song that was number one. If you
from Philly, you remember you got love for Gilly I
got look, let's be for real, bro I went to
the studio. I didn't even know how to fucking do
a song. I was like, what y'all want me and
rap about nigga, like shout out to Marcus Graham. He said,
make a song about what you got loved for and

(15:31):
what you don't got loved for. I was like, all right,
that's easy shit. I went through some beats, picked the
beat this like ninety six man and one right in.
I got loved for thug niggas and thug missus, marijuana
smoke more poppas and din zippers, drug dealers, credit card counterfeitters,

(15:53):
niggas locked up in all of my broke niggas. I
got love for wild parties and wild bodies. Sweat a
spot mine. He killers like John Gottie. Bad women in
short dresses, were huge breasts, the bucket yard bench with
the triple head.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Right, man, that's ship.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That's enough.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
I'm talking that ship nigga. Yes, sir, not asked nigga. Man,
I was talking that ship nigga.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Next year.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
I know they was off in six hundred thousand, seven
hundred thousand, eight hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Now, yeah, all right, I had twelve wraps man, so
who you decided to go with? Swive House.

Speaker 9 (16:37):
Draper Man one of my one of my friends to
this day, one of my best friends of the day,
was the first person.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
To give me six figures. I was a young kid,
you know.

Speaker 9 (16:47):
He socked into my pocket, took the rollerie off his arm,
the presidential off his arm, put it on my arm.
You know, took me all over the world, opened my
eyes up, took me to every meeting, you understand me.
And Rick Rossell signs on the same label at the
same time. He was tef line back then. You know
what I mean, eight ball, MJG. You know him and

(17:07):
Tony draper is good friends, you know what I'm saying.
So shout out to Tony draper Man was a mentor
of mine and really taught me how to be independent
and standing on your own because he was one of
the first independent people to do it. And when I
got flew to Houston, when he was trying to sign me,
and I got to his house and he was like
twenty five years old, and that nigga gates opened up

(17:28):
to his house and I seen a motherfucking eight cars
and a fucking viper with zip up windows. I was like, Oh,
it's the fuck on man, this shit real man, nigga's
out here get money like this, and that shit opened
my eyes up. You know what I'm saying, So shut
out to Tony Draper.

Speaker 11 (17:46):
Let's talk about the podcast space for a second, y'all. Y'all,
y'all been in the podcast space for a minute. You've
seen podcasts rise and fall. And I know y'all don't
consider a lot of people's competition because we talk about it,
but a lot of people do. Y'all can continue to
maintain who y'all are, but continue to stay at the stop,
stay at the top of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wrong. I mean, we just do what we do, right.
I mean, we don't worry about what nobody else is doing.
We got our own obligations.

Speaker 9 (18:12):
We partners with DraftKings man, right, We partners with with
so many people, Jack Pocket, you know what I'm saying,
so many different companies. So it's like, bro, if you
competing with us, and then nigga, you competing with yourself
because you go ahead, nigga, you could dress better than me.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
You got that. Nigga, your car could be better than mine,
you got that. Nigga.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
My kids is happy, nigga. My wife is happy, nigga,
my mother happy. I just took my whole fucking family
to out the country man on a vacation. Man it
shit colls two hundred thousand. Man, I'm not in competition
with you, my nigga. I'm living my best fucking life
because we only die once. So if you weren't being

(19:00):
competition with me, nigga, go ahead, nigga. I don't even
recognize you. I don't see it.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I feel like for all the smoke, the podcast was
just the beginning, and I know it's exactly the same
way for you guys.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, while you got a book.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
You just told me about the lick you hit in
the medical marijuana space, talked to us about the business
that birth from million dollars worth a game.

Speaker 9 (19:23):
You know, I think the New York Time bestseller man, Man, congratulations, Yeah,
it's this hour coming out soon.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's New York Time bestseller. It's out. Oh, it's out.
You know. I gotta get on game. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Just did a tensity book tour.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Congratulations, bro, talk to us about that journey. I mean
to reflect on your drive and you still have so
much more to go. But what did it mean to
be able to put that on the pages and share
with the rest of the world.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
You know it's always good that we show our similarities
in our journey. That's why I never taken nothing off
my page being I need you to see me and
Nanny House. I need you to see me running down
the street. I need you to see me in the minivan.
I need you to because our culture now we look
at celebrity and we only look at the endgame. We
look at their glory. We don't look at their story.

(20:14):
I need you to see me fucked up, trying to
figure it out. The journey and Nanny House when I
put that thousand dollars on the bed. If you go
back right and the journey is important because I need
you to see that This book is filled with l's,
all these losses, lost, lost law and at the end
chapter two, at the end, you start seeing me win.
But it's like I need you to understand that I'm

(20:36):
not better than you and you not better than me,
and our journeys is the same. It's about who won't
give up and who not At the end of the day,
people be this close to their dream, and it's like,
you only need one motherfucker to say yes and everything
that you work hard for and all the l's you took, and.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
That's what I'm showing you in this book, a bunch
of l's. Then yes, yes, it's start coming.

Speaker 8 (20:57):
But it was time when I came home and I
was like, you know, I come home and I'm like,
I'm you know, every day Gil getting a call from somebody, Yo,
what's up with your cousin? Is that nigga crazy is
here on medication? Because I'm running down the street screaming
the shit six o'clock in the morning. Anythink I'm crazy?
I think that's quite normal. But whatever the case is,
that ain't normal.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
But I like it. Yeah, all right, so so.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
Motherfuckers is like but but you know what, I always
look at it like, damn, I'm out of jail. I'm
happy at shit. This is a beautiful place outside of
the poverty. So what I did was to give you
good energy. I made the ghettos of Philadelphia my backdrop.
You might see me doing a video in the lot.
You might see me doing a video some mattresses. You
might see me doing a video in a banded building.

(21:38):
Because I was trying to bring, you know, positivity to
a place where it's struggle at motherfuckers is trying to
figure out life. So to show you, listen, I'm trying
to figure it out too, but I'm gonna push you.
And you know, it was just a connection, and I
connected with the people that needed it the most. It
wasn't for everybody. I'm cool, it's eight billion people on
the planet. A couple hundred thousand fuck with it. Cool,
that's all you need. So I was just pushing you

(22:00):
knowing that and the people. One thing about human beings,
if you consistent on something, especially when it's positivity and
trying to encourage him, it's gonna be one day that
you're gonna crack through that you might help a motherfucker.
And I was just chasing one day for me the
people I could get, and that's how that took off.
And that's what I'm sharing in the book.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean, I just think your your energy is different.
It's inspirational, it's refreshing.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
We live in a world of negativity, you know, insecurities, poverty,
tough times. People's energy is nasty towards one another, and
that's unfortunately the society we live in. But again, I
feel like you're a breath refresher and you've been able to.
Obviously you have a different outlook. You sat down for
a long time. I couldn't even from seventeen to thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I was crack. I couldn't imagine being gone that long.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
So obviously your outlook is different at it. But explain
how you've kind of turned that outlook and that mentality
into your buislding yourself Obviously together, you guys are doing
some shit, but you're building yourself an empire.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
You got several different.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
I believe in partnership, I don't. I'm a firm believer
in partnership and dealing with the machines. And one thing
about me and him, we got this this when it
comes to business, when it comes to just fuck business,
just life. I think we got the life part together first,
and the understanding and the communication. If I'm doing something off,

(23:18):
it's not Gil gonna call me yo, cuz come in,
let me holler at you. Listen, man, we can't And
I'm gonna say cuz I mean so. And that's the
greatest thing because it's never gonna be no Eve, we
never walked away from a situation where we had to
disagree on it, and it was resentment on ego. Most
people walk away their egos be they're pride and they
be like fuck you now, and they mind, they'd be like,

(23:39):
fuck you.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
I don't really fucking a resentment bill.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
So it's a bunch of clashing without our whole thing
is like, listen, we getting shitload of money for nothing
for being us.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
I'm gonna wake up tomorrow. Oh you understand this.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
Man, We're talking about fifty two fifty two hours a year,
million dollars worth a game. It's only fifty two fucking hours.
That's fifty two episodes. This is it's a lot of
paper involved for that. You see what I'm saying, Like,
and it's like we you got people reaching out the
partner with us because we're just doing what we're gonna
do anyway. Like you understand this, whether you saw it

(24:11):
or not. I was going to his crib, sleeping on
his couch just because it was a nice couch. I
was doing that anyway. Just sometimes he can't.

Speaker 12 (24:18):
Taking my wife mad as ship that night, sit on
my couches, you know, fresh out of jail downstairs, I
don't even know fucking on the couch because it's a
comfortable couch.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
So don't nobody sit on that fucking couch right there? Bro,
I don't know that. I don't know that. We'll get
the fuck up to come down here and then I
gotta fucking go through it. Why you got a couch
in your house?

Speaker 7 (24:39):
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Why wouldn't nobody sit on the fucking couch been in
your house? That's stupid.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
They're not olding multiple motherfucker's in that joint.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Certain ship is just for decoration.

Speaker 9 (24:48):
I'm like, I'm like, damn, it's a important motherfucker's come over.
If you know, everybody ain't know what the fuck I'm
talking about. He didn't matter because him and his homie
they just put one fu two beds together and ween.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
So what happened is who told you that? But listen,
at the end of the day. At the end of
the day, my thing is like, the couch needed to
be broken in any fucking way.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It was comfortable.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
I didn't understand why I was so comfortable. He wanted
what you like, I'm like, you mean, it's a couch.
I opposed laying on. This is what niggas doing the hood.
They make couches. A couch is a bed in the ghetto?
Is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
So? I'm like, we wasn't in the ghetto, nigga. We
was in the city.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I want to ghetto either. But I'll be sleeping all night.
My girl be sending me downstairs all the time. I'd
be sleeping on that motherfucker all the time.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Everything. Yeah, what you do for her to send you
down there? Like God, even moke too much?

Speaker 9 (25:40):
See that thirty kick and you say ship, you ain't
spoosh to my woman, send me down talks all time,
talk back, crazy, shut out to two though I was
on the couch couple some way.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Any birthday, baby, Happy birthday, birthday. Make some noise, y'all. Yeah,
all the smokes. We got more shots for you in
the back.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
It just it just started turning. And as me and Gil,
you should just do our things. So many calls the phone,
like this one thing. I know you don't never have
to see you popping. When you popping, the biggest people
in the world gonna get your numbers some type of way.
We get a call one time because first before we
get the car, I told you I'm looking up early

(26:19):
in the morning, I'm reading some shit. I'm always reading
some shit online Apple News and I'm just reading articles
about so I run across an article Spotify alo k
four and a million of podcasts in the first quarter
of twenty nineteen. I called that nigga like four in
the morning, kept calling, kept calling because here you be sleeping.
I kept I'm like, yo, get up here, Like Yo,
what the fuck you want?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Man?

Speaker 7 (26:37):
I said, listen, please just read this article, because just
read this shit.

Speaker 10 (26:40):
Read it.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
I sent it to him me ready he could this.
Nigga called me back. I know he knew what the
fuck was going on there. He said, Yo, we gotta
crack the MIC's out. I said, all right, I'm gonna
call you later. I'm gonna get the I'm a call attorney.
I'ma have a draw up the paperwork. I'm gonna get
with my man, Nick Rich, have him do the logo.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
I'm behind this.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
You later on, nigga, I see you later on. At night,
I had anything sign that boom boom boom, and we
said it off. See one thing about us, we listen
to each other though. That's the biggest thing. He always
respect the fact that because I was in jail. You
was out here doing deal after deal after deal after deal.
So when we riding up to Barstool to do the deal,

(27:19):
he say, Cuz, how we gonna play this shit? I said,
We're gonna go in there and be the niggas that
they expect us to be. They ain't signing us to
come in there and be no motherfucking black white man.
They signing us to be the niggas that they see
the fuck on YouTube, the Instagram, Twitter.

Speaker 9 (27:37):
So when we go in there, we're gonna be the
niggas that they expect us to be. We walk right
in there, there's five white people sitting at a table.
Wild O say, hold up, we just got out to
bed at six in the morning and drove up here,
and you ain't got no goddamn cop classics.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Them white people say cop classics.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
He said, yeah, fucking coffee and donuts. Man, y'all gotta
do better than this ship.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But see, you froze up on me when we went
in to fucking Amazon.

Speaker 10 (28:07):
So whoom.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
So after the deal was up with Barstow, this nigga
froze up on me. So so we go up and
fucking Amazon froze up. Listen, watch what happened. So were
going there with the president of the Amazon, right, So
we going there. Shout out to Tim Tim Henshaw. Y'all
know Tim from Compton. He big up in Amazon. He
really be like he he he take you to it.
So we go in there and meet him. Shout out

(28:28):
to Seawan g So we go up in there, walking there.
So it's uh Tim boom and Tom boom and something.
He the president of Amazon. Right, So we're going there
to do the deal. And this is a vicious bit
more Spotify barstow in Amazon.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
So we going there.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
The whole program is we going in there to do
us So I go in there. So we in there.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
I threw my feet up on the table in Amazon.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Go you walked in there.

Speaker 9 (28:51):
Tell me, goddamn this Amazon, y'all ain't gonna fucking a right.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Heads out of a ship and.

Speaker 9 (28:57):
It started coming out of sweatshirt. So I looked though
over at the presidents here, that nigga crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
So here we get to talking, right, so he talking
about yeah, you know, I said, damn, but you had
your feet up on the table. For I have my
feet up on the fucking table and Amazon in La.
So he like this, but he looking at me like, nigga,
get your feet off the white folks say him. I'm like, stop,
bitch your nigga. We got this, so we will take.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Shit that fall.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
No, So listen, we up in there and write your
fucking feet off the tabe were up in there this month.
He all scared. The man say yeah, man, you guys man,
I just love you. Guys are just crazy, y'all really
fucking crazy. So I'm like, damn man, how old is
you man? He said he's fifty seven. I said, damn man,
shit tight, you dick on the shelf. Man, you ain't
get no ass out of here right. This motherfucker said

(29:44):
that's a that could be a show.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
This is great. I said, tick off this shll. I said, look, nigga,
I told you. I'm telling you. I'm like, we got him.
We left out that motherfucker.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Man about forty two hours later, that motherfucker shit nigga.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
The forty two hours later, you've seen the email. Fella
fuck out. Damn oh god, cuz did you see the offer?
Because we did it.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
I was sweat, I got scared. Oh shit, I'm like
I was scared right, this nigga always count.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
On, hold on long.

Speaker 11 (30:19):
Speaking speaking of that, everybody thought that video y'all made
was fake. Nobuddy, know the fucking wasn't. I know because
I talked that times.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
I grind me motherfucking the last twenty years. It's when
my son passed away, and when we signed that fucking contract.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
We're picking a song. Fuck what people think? Who picked
a song? I don't know.

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Shit, there's some niggas in here right now. I'll give
him twenty five hundred. Yeah, I ain't no hours gonna
pay my fucking rent.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
God is good. Yeah, So you took that Amazon deal back,
encountered bar stool the no, no, listen, this is what
we do. I'm like, cuz we gotta flick it up.
So we left.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
As we leave in Amazon, we got on to the
front with all the all the white folks, and you
know what I mean. We took the big pitch in
front of the sign, threw it right up. The war
is on bang right. So next we leave, like about
ten minutes away, we go to Spotify. So we in
there in Spotify, they taking us. Y'all can shoot here,
y'all can do whatever you want. We're gonna but I'm like,
y'all keep trying. I'm in there arguing with him because

(31:29):
I'm like, hold up, we'll be talking about though we
only doing licensing, you know, we like to own. Oh man,
I'm like, oh, so they walking us around, They're like,
we're gonna do this. We're gonna have you billboard time beating.
I said, fuck them billboards.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Man, I said, we not.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
You're not takingcause you're trying to take us off YouTube.
Because with Spotify do they close you in? They take
you off everywhere, so your audio wall listen, and now
you can't be on Apple.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
You they closed you in because the whole thing is.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
We're gonna super We're gonna supermarket you to our audience,
but your number's gonna be crazy. You might be king
on Amazon, but nigga, you're taking us off the streets.
You Tube is the greatest place in the world because
everybody don't have access to pay for the fucking subscription.
So we going there, We leave there, take the picture
of Spotify, bang, throw it up. Then by Time is

(32:13):
going back and forth in the email all these different offers.
Spotify came in. We said, we laughing at this shit.
Like we selling shit. But the Amazon kept coming. They
kept going up, going up, thirty five, forty three, but
it just kept going up. Right, we went in the
bar stool five minutes right, Eric and Nardini in there.
She's like, guys, what are we doing? I said, listen,

(32:35):
they said this, They said this. She said, I'm.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Saying this because he said, listen, fuck all that, cause
we've done.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
Ask who I told him from the gate. Were going
back to the bar stool, because no, not Amazon. He
said that, we're going back to the bar stool. Man,
he want to tell you anything about that first deal
When they said that first off of through the Nigga
called me and said, I pick up what's up?

Speaker 13 (33:06):
Cause yeah, cause I see the emails first cause I
just was thinking, man, oh, he talking about the first
first deal, the first first deal. I was just thinking, man, man,
we should just go ahead and take that money. Man,
see you have some money. Man, I ain't never had
no money.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
What I said, nigga, what.

Speaker 9 (33:33):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
No? He did never take the first offer. I know
it's a nice offer. Ship look good, he said, no.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
He said, ignore the email, don't respond. I'm like, cuz
it's in my hand. I got to I gotta see something.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
She was saying.

Speaker 9 (33:46):
Up.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
He want to be like, let's do it right now.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
No, So I said, no, come come down, come come
back down and talk face to face with us, Cuz
we went three times, Dad, when the restaurant put my
motherfucker feet up here. He wanted, yeah, so listen right,

(34:08):
we was thinking, right, how about y'all do three times
that this has in advance.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
We won seventy thirty for this, sixty forty for that.
What you think about that? Let's do it? Damn, man,
we should ask me listen, listen. Shit, he get mad
at me, He get mad at me, He get mad
at me again.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
This is the first deal because he said, why you nigga,
didn't you tell me what the fuck to say when
we went in there?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You want me to step the fuck up. And then
when I he gonna say, man, why you ain't next?
God damn, they said something.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
It was when the motherfucker tell you, yes, that fast?
It was too quick, Yes, let's get it done. We
started thinking this we getting ribbed maroun This mother shit
was too fast. I ain't even think about that ship.
But he shout out to him, man, shout out to
Dave Portnoy and Erica Ardini some great partners.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Regulations man, that shi it is I remember they definitely
give them a round applause for that. I mean, we
had you and I have some heavy conversations. Man, you
and you made me look at things a little different
and push the line.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
And you know, we did what we did.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
But I think it's important to share that because there's
no market in here, so we don't know what each
other is getting.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
We don't know what to push for.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
Yeah, and the and they'll play you because we we
live in We the new media, Like we took media over.
And it's not that it's not that it's not the
standardship the more like everybody that got a phone can
build a media company. But I just think people don't
understand like you need a team. I think everybody want
to do about the selfish ship and it's like, no,
once you get an infrastructure, these people only respect infrastructures

(35:47):
and businesses that's moving.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah, I was doing a lot of shit by myself.
Gil was doing a lot of ship by myself.

Speaker 8 (35:52):
But once we form million dollars worth of game and
created a platform, now draft kings like yo oh, we
gotta what same like yo oh yo, I just got
skims for us today. We got skims. Now, I was
gonna meet with them skims. You know they got box
some breaches.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, congratulations. I just didn't hear what she said. Skims.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
There's a lot of money. But cav I closed the deal.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I was on that phone.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Congratulations, shout out the skims. So we're gonna see y'all
in So we gotta see y'all in your underwear. You
ain't gonna see me in no underwear.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm just I don't know what. Like a runaway. He'll
be money for God. We're just doing adds. Okay, congratulations.
He might be joint, doing backshots and some tight joint.
You do him? No man, little friggy old Ed. You
know he' got that D D L. Right, you do know.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
Nigga Wotan put some some toppings on his pizza. Nigga
wow Man said he going out with a bang.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yep, he said. All the women cheating. He said all
the women cheating because when I die man twelve, I said,
damn wow.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Speaking of that hot topic of Late Diddy, he was
at them parties at the party.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
I was in jail. I was in jail. I had
nothing to do with that ship that nigga was at
the part. I got this, I got pictures. That wasn't.
I was in jail. Yeah, that was that he did?
You see you? Man? I was in jail.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
That is that.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Seventeen? Look Addy, you see low in the back. Look
what year was that's you? Diddy and R Kelly.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
You know that's him.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
That's not I, that's him.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
I was in jail.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
What they do to you?

Speaker 7 (37:46):
I was in jail.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I wasn't. I was in jail. That wasn't me. What
they do to you?

Speaker 9 (37:49):
You see he got baby or you want to see
that said shine and shiny as ship.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
They put that there. That wasn't me. Who put that there?
Somebody made that's a photoshop. That could been me. It
couldn't have been you. That ain't me.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Where you are sipping something, mapp I think that the
time stop says ninety three?

Speaker 1 (38:07):
What year you going? I went in ninety six? That
wasn't so you went in and that wasn't me. Man,
he was all in there. I wasn't there. That's where
you learn how to dance? Was there? That's when you
learn how to dance. No, Gil was there. I know
he was there. It wasn't me. Gil was there. You

(38:27):
had the experience at the Didty parties.

Speaker 9 (38:30):
Nah, I've never been to a Diddy party. I don't
really go to the parties that. I was always the outcast.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, you never went to no part all right? Cool?
No I did. Oh, I ain't got a lie party man.
Picture me being in one of the parts. I thought
did He told you don't stop. I'm just here you go.
I was in jail.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
What do y'all think about Fifty trolling him all the
time and and building a little show on that's coming
out of Netflix.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Fiddy is really a comedian man, real. I'm talking about
us being when even ship fucking with Fifty all the time.
He's he would call you and just be on some ship.
I'm talking about. He's just a comedian man. He just
loved joking. He think this ship is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Now.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Oh, we would always tell him, I say, fifty cent
a good nigga man. Boo Boo ain't ship man, Nigga
Boo Boo ain't ship.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
He loved it. He knows the truth. That's my nigga.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
You're a treacherous nigga, though, don't worry about it. Jack
the Mule kicked fucking Jack fucked him up.

Speaker 11 (39:34):
Nah, when y'all see the topic that I got to
ask him, y'all gonna take.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
A side to Chauncey Gillops. Oh yeah, what when did
you have a basketball?

Speaker 9 (39:46):
Come?

Speaker 11 (39:47):
You're not Chauncey Gillips, I mean names, I'm not Chauncey Gillups,
absolutely not, But go ahead answer the question.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
Chauncey Gillups acknowledged me as Chauncey Gillups. You better, That's right.
A lot of that ship is nasty where you tell
the white boy you better step up, nigga. Yeah, that's

(40:14):
all I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
I ain't got my game because you ain't on me.
I got you see me in the Big Three MVP three.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Years in a row, forty eight years old.

Speaker 9 (40:23):
Come on, man, I see why I don't want to
ask the question. This is terrible and I don't play
niggas over thirty five. Let's disrespect of my game, y'all.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Was I y'all was basketball icons growing up on the court. Black. Yeah,
we was in balls. I played ship.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
He was in the park with some old nigga name Earl. See,
I'm three years older than him. He come out there.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm not going out there with that freaky ass old head.
I saw.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
I saw his niggas acting over the last drive. Bruce
Lee Roy like you real with him? Like hit me
up there to day, Bruce Leroy my nigga. He's my
I'm Bruce le Roy Jr. It's my nigga.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
So you got the glow to when you need it. No, listen, listen, Steve.
The nigga came on from jail right. The nigga came
on from jail right. I thought he was playing.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
He said, Cuz you know what one of my dreams
always been.

Speaker 9 (41:15):
I'm like what he said. I want to meet Bruce
Lee Roy Jr. So I'm like what you heard me,
the nigga that played in one movie back in the day.
He's like, Yim, what the fuck would you want to
meet him for? Nigga got one movie under his belt?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Man, I don't know. I just want to meet him. Man.
I always wanted to meet him while I was in jail. Now.

Speaker 9 (41:35):
I thought there was some wild, kinky spicy burrito ship.
But I'm like, all right, one day the nigga came
to me and said, cuz he gonna be up here
in New York.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Go up there with me. You're thinking the nigga gonna
be in Manhattan. He said, We found him. Bro.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
We drove up New York, had to get on two
fucking fairies to get off on a fucking park to
walk to a long dance park. This man was chilling
with his family. This nigga walked up on him and said,
could I be Bruce Lee Roy Jr. Oh Man, And

(42:14):
this nigga looked back. Willow said, you're already Bruce Lee
Roy Junior.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, that was the day I got the glow man
I was on. After that he handed it to you.
Couldn't fun. All I can think is both these niggas
fucking losers. This man don't know.

Speaker 9 (42:32):
Imagine a nigga walking up on you, a tall young boy,
and say, could I be Stephen Jackson Jr.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I just said it that way. I already got one.
Oh you look back at him, You're already Stephen Jackson.
You didn't look at me like that. The nigga mama
was dead. She was like she thought I was crazy.

Speaker 9 (42:56):
She thought the nigga was like did this nigga just
walk up and say that he a grown ass man?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Oh man, it was crazy, bald ass head hit nigga.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Crazy man, This nigga standing right there in front of
Bruce Lee roy face telling us y'all sip ass niggas.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I'm like, yo, man, fuck is you doing?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Man?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
This Bruce man?

Speaker 8 (43:15):
He was direspecting, he said, he said, wildlow, stay away
from him. I said, you know what, since you're right
my fucking sense?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Wait, hold on, wait, hold on. Didn't that nigga just
text you two days ago?

Speaker 10 (43:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (43:29):
So he texted me a couple of days and he
told me he's looking for you.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
That's what he told me. We run the car.

Speaker 11 (43:35):
Bruce text me two days ago. Did you ask him
about sure Enough? Sure Enough was a bitch man?

Speaker 10 (43:42):
He ain't.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
He kicked. He kicked sure Enough in the water. That's
what he got. Sure Enough. He's you have to can't
get the glow, You have to kick anybody to get
the glow.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
No, you know it was crazy. I'm gonna say this glow.
Hold up, I got.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Thirteen here any elu, people's head with.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
I got thirteen black. That was before I knew Marshall
watched to ship out. You he rolled up on that
car like he worked at Jiffy Lukee.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
So this is what happened.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
He's he's mad because he never seen me in action.
It was a couple of times when ship took took
place that I ran because this listen ready, No, it
was unnecessary and sometimes you know, he said, I ran
on him a couple of times. It's cool because I
didn't think that the fights was necessary because it didn't
really evolve me.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
He was talking ship to somebody.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
That's his fault.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
So his whole thing. He don't he know, he don't
believe that.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I know, Mar just some guardian angels on the fucking train.
Some nigga you remember them. Niggas used to ride the
trains back in the day with the fucking that ass
head little he's a bitch man. He always been to
bitch his whole life. You got your ass beat that day,
some old head trying to slap me in the line.
Try man, give it up, O fucking guys. Brothers, right man,

(44:58):
the brothers. We appreciate y'all. Man, y'all just did a
show together right as an air Jez.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Absolutely check it out, man, Oh come on, man, let's
get this picture standing in the front.

Speaker 7 (45:08):
We gotta show people this ship.

Speaker 11 (45:09):
Yeah, man, give y'all gotta favoite Rode apart man brother
Fred Taylor.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Man.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
We got one last segment that we're gonna do some
fan questions. Then we're gonna get on out of here.
So yeah, we're gonna get the books away, Mike. Okay,
that's for fan questions. Obviously, Hot top ship Man, Gilly you.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
And the music.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
While you being a manager, this Kendrick and Drake beef,
where were we all with that?

Speaker 9 (45:31):
Kendrick one, Kendrick one. I didn't like the first two
Kendricks this, but this, the last one was incredible. That
ship was crazy. Fuck Drake up with that joke?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
As a manager? What was your thought of the beef?
As someone on the business side of the beef? It
was great, you know what it was great for out
of the whole thing. It was great to show young
people that ramps about, we canna go ahead against your.

Speaker 8 (45:50):
Competit got nobody got gotta die. Nobody got a die,
but get a shipload of money and nobody gotta die.
So that's what I really liked about it.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
You know, we appreciate that. Are we gonna take some
fans questions? Now?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Anybody want to come up here and answer questions?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
You come on, man, step up. Night's right in front
of you. What you got?

Speaker 7 (46:09):
My name free truth Ray from me.

Speaker 8 (46:11):
I'm from Night Sound No Philly, Okay, Philadelphia has the
only cannabis education.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Radio show, FM Radio ninety eight point five film.

Speaker 8 (46:22):
My question is when mister Gilly gonna coming and you know,
bring that per thirty to the only radio.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Show in your city. There you go, you just don't
Thursday seven and nine, there you go by you fuck
your eyes looking like mine? You said, while your eyes
looking like mine?

Speaker 9 (46:40):
Him?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Is it so? I'm saying? Ray?

Speaker 3 (46:44):
When when you smoke, you guys, when you start talking,
you gotta put the.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Open jaws on. We're with them with the station at
Brother ninety eight point five film. Uptown uh Philly Radio,
the only remaining black Rade. We uptown. That ain't uptown.

Speaker 7 (47:04):
This called uptown Radio.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Oh it's in North Philly. It's in North Philly.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
You had to before I make the Uptown, before you
went to the Apollo.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
The real up team.

Speaker 9 (47:16):
Okay, Yes, I still I'm fired. I don't know what
the talking about Brow and Susquehanna. I'll get your number
before I get out of here. I'll pull up on him.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
There you go, step on up. Hey, Hell, that's your
first label? Head?

Speaker 7 (47:33):
Oh yeah, that was my first label while he was
signed to that.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
That's from the record store, he said, wild lead those way.
You know how many artists you had one?

Speaker 7 (47:45):
You said the ree I seen it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I got that coming. You got a question? You don't
know about that? Gil Nig Yeah, this regularly for four
months and then he was gone.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Uh speaking of which, but Stack I was in and
Splint wichmand I just one for everybody since retiring from
the NBA and even Gilly with music and going into
a different lane. What's the impact that you see outside
of the NBA now on people because you led one
of the biggest marches, I would say in the world

(48:19):
and I was there side by side, which is born
in you know what I mean? And what's the impact
that you see now that you get back to the
game after the NBA.

Speaker 11 (48:28):
Well, I just think everybody understands that their voice is
just as big as mine. You might have a platform
I have, You might have a platform bigger than anybody else,
but your voice still matter, And I think everybody know
that it's not one person that could get it done.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's not two people.

Speaker 11 (48:43):
But if some kind of way we all can come
together and get on the same page, that's the only
way we get shited done. So if we can sinue
to have the attitude, we'll be all right. But everybody
voice matter. I appreciate you, bro.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I think, like Waller said earlier, like we've changed what
media is. You guys get your news from different so
horses now from different sources than our parents got it from.
So you know, we take a lot of pride in
having these platforms and be trusted voices, voices you guys
come to for information, So we don't take that ship
for granted.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
So yeah, we definitely appreciate that. Oh damn, he won
money and a book. Huh, hell of a day, bro,
what's your question? All right?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
So I'm cairis right, and like this is my first podcast,
live podcast, So like it's a pretty good you enjoy
yourself today, made a little money, got a bug, got
to see these guys, And.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Really the reason why I'm here really because of this
program here. So what's called it's called Unique Dreams. Unique
Dreams shut out. You need unique dreams. Yeah, and my
question is who's the youngest. Who's the baby here? Who's
the youngest? I think I might be the youngest. I
was forty four. How do you forty five? He fifty three?

(49:52):
Fuck out forty eight? Okay, yeah, so we all. Yeah,
I'm young, boys, you niggas will give me some back
woods my fucking lemonade. Yeah, keep the change. Appreciate it man,
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Next up, I think there's a line behind you, boss,
but guas go ahead real quick.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Come on. My name Danzel. I'm from the d m
V area and everything like that.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
So you guys all the Smoke podcast inspired me to
be in the cultivation area in the cannabis industry and
everything like that, watching out our Inheritance podcast. So I
got a question for you guys with some advice you
could give to me for being in the starting in
the cannabis industry and what can like you know, what
things and skills I might need to learn and everything

(50:40):
like that.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Keep it down back there, want you to give from
you guys. But they made me throw it out. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh, we appreciate the thought, Gilly, I mean this is
something you've jumped into the the medical space. You're in
dispensaries now. But what kind of advice would you give
for somebody young in the space?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Well, what what what part of the space you're getting in?
You a grower?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
What like?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
You know what I mean? What you do?

Speaker 5 (51:01):
So right now I just started growing. I got about
five plants in my facinity right now. So I'm just learning,
trying to learn like my state regulations and the business
side and the financial side and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
I mean, the most important part of everything is the product.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (51:19):
Most people smoke dicky because most people don't know what
good weed is. Feel what I'm saying. Most people go
to their man, who got it in?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Your man?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Don't know weed? Got that shit from man, He got
that shit from six other niggas. They got that shit
from a Mexican man.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
You're smoking Mexican brown man, Charles Barkley man fucking dirt,
no winskill.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
So yeah, that's another form of it, Retgie Miller.

Speaker 9 (51:48):
So the product has always got to be we hear,
because they got a dope product.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
We have a dope product. That's first and foremost.

Speaker 9 (51:58):
You feel what I'm saying, if you growing doe at
your facility, you wasted fucking time.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Man.

Speaker 9 (52:02):
Nobody want that shit now, So you got to figure
out if it's some good shit first, and then you
could take the next steps from there. I was able
to see most people that say they got a string,
they really don't got a string. They got a bag
that they put their fucking face on and they threw
somebody else's third ass.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Weed in there.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
They don't know what the fuck is it. That way,
my shit is through the government, so I can't do that.
I had to take two strands and put them together
and make a baby. That's why you got Gilly Wonka
per thirty and mule Kick. You ever seen a motherfucker
get kicked in the face by a horse? That's how

(52:43):
you're in the bill. This nigga talk about wi his hands.
Obviously he don't got a medical car. He smokes thirty
dollars a duke, No problem. Never, I still love it
you smoke, duke. Appreciate the question, bro. Next up, my
name's Court and.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Us Stephen Jackson, Gilly and Walla. I want to appreciate
y'all for showing.

Speaker 14 (53:03):
Love to like drum boot tennis and Ishmael Muhammad and
like the Philly culture train, I was training like my
little brother.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Like it's just like my little brother. I know you've
been to Like that's a good job, Gilly.

Speaker 14 (53:17):
I know you also played basketball against my brother Speedy
Artist he and the Globetrotters.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (53:23):
Yeah, My question is yeah sometimes, but yeah, I've be
seeing the videos.

Speaker 14 (53:27):
But I'm just trying to see, like, can I get
y'all to come to my summer league in the summer.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I know we're talking about like quarters and stuff like that.

Speaker 14 (53:34):
And when you want people to give you money or
to come out, you got to ask them a well
ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
So in the summer, I got the line of Young
Summer League that I run with my brothers, and I
was wondering if y'all could come out line of Young
Summer League on street.

Speaker 14 (53:48):
No, it's eleven eleven hundred shelling in and we've been
running and operating for five years now. Never had no issues,
no drama, nothing out there, And I was just wondering
to see if y'all can come out basketball players.

Speaker 9 (54:01):
Champions, How you want me to come out and you
want me to just come out there, come out?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
You want me to come out.

Speaker 14 (54:05):
We also got a celebrity game and like we're doing
about the eleven weekend too.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You can play in that joint of you want to
cook the real niggas not your man. Take one m
v P last year in this in this jone. So he.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Yeah, he was, hoo, I got you, I got you,
I'm gonna get you, right. I appreciate that, but yeah,
I just want you to like show love back to us,
because what you.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Say, the name of that was the Handicamp League of
young It ain't nothing handy Kevin about up. He was, Yeah,
I appreciate you all. Continue to show love and we
can continue.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
To take champ. You know that's my god. I stopped
up your brother. Ye shout out the line of young man.
We got an Eagles fan. What what's going to happen
with the Eagles this year? Y'all? Well, I'm saying, asked,
what's gonna hap?

Speaker 9 (54:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I'm in California. Hey, my team is two and three.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I'm a forty nine fan, but I'm still a firm
believe we're gonna be all right. You're from town, yeah
Sack and the Yeah, you go, ask you a question and.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Matt Barnes who was your favorite teammate?

Speaker 11 (55:12):
And Gil who was number two in the figures and
don't lie in neither besides he was, he was, I
was number one, Nigga.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I ain't heard not one bar from you, no, but
I was dear before. It's no, no, no, no no.
Who was number two in the figures? As far as bars?
You know you Spade though, Spade though, Yeah, favorite teammate?
Uh damn. I played with a lot of people that

(55:42):
I was. I know I still fuck with heavy. But
if I had to pick one person, who's my favorite teammate?
My motherfucking brought outside of us, outside of each other.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Okay, I have to go with Al Harrington. Al Harrison
is my dog. Al Harrington. I would say my favorite
teammate was who I used to really get in some trouble.
I used to have Me and Kobe used to get
into some ship rested piece years.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I said, yeah, I was saying that. I would say, Cove, Yeah, Now,
what was you thinking when you I was trying to
fuck him up. I wanted to fight him. He was
just doing some dirty shit.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
He elbowed me like three times that game hit me
and my stern and I'm knocked the wind out of me.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I kind of respected. It was respect, but it was
also almost to fight. You got it. I appreciate your broth.
Thank you, lo bro. You want you want some money too? Huh?
You walking there?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
But I can tell the way you stepped to the
microphone that boy pot get heavy.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Money. Rock. I played basketball. I'm saying, cook, no side,
no sign.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
How you said you're sixteen. Yeah, he's battling kids too.
He wants to play my twins, my twins only fifteen.

Speaker 11 (56:53):
I got a question like for basketball, what I'm saying, oh,
like the obstacles, like because you know it's gonna be
ups and downs and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
So like, how is it like when you were growing
up playing basketball? Like your journey? You know, I was
playing for Sunny Hill. What happened was I fucked my
acl up right.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
Now right so you got understand this?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And he said it fucked his acnle.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
Tom I was playing for. I was playing for Sunny Hill.
I had Seaton Hall Temple, Penn State in uh North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Trying to get right.

Speaker 7 (57:29):
Yeah you heard about me right, see what I ain't
gonna tell you?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
So I would say obviously these days, I got kids
out your age, and I think there's a lot of
distractions out there. So I would say the most important
thing is, you know, stay true to yourself, stay true
to your school worker.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
But then you got to work.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Everybody in the world wants to be on that level,
and it's been less than as long as the NBA
has been around, there's been less than five thousand people
in that game. So you got to be the best
of the best. So you gotta work hard. You gotta
work hard, you gotta stay focused. I say the most
important thing is the mental self because once you get there,
everybody is skilled, and how do you stay focused and
able to continue to grow your game and continue to

(58:06):
hold that spot, because as soon as you get there,
everyone's coming for you. Everyone's coming for you on and
off the court.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
And I'm say I want to touch on that, and
then too, you gotta believe in yourself. Like you, I'm
somebody who made a lot of mistakes, right, I made
a lot of mistakes, But you got to believe in
yourself and control your own narrative. Right, You're gonna make
mistakes and a lot of things not gonna be easy,
but don't learn from people ahead of you. Don't put
yourself in the position where you've seen other people mess up.

(58:34):
Learn from other people mistakes. Right, There's no reason for
you to make mistakes of trying to be an athlete
when there's so many other athletes that messed up their careers. Right,
So look at the people that did it wrong and
try not to make the same mistakes they made.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
That's the easy way to look at it. I love that,
Thank you, appreciate it. So what do you guys start
the seventy six ers year? What's gonna happen with the
seventy six? They pick you? George? Can I ashow you
some questions? Can I ask your too some questions? Real quick?
What's up? YouTube? Real quick? Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 9 (59:06):
Jordan Lebron Jordan, I'm gonna say Jordan's Sean camp Ai,
Steph Curry, Steph Curry.

Speaker 11 (59:24):
I love Ai more as a brother, but basketball wise,
Steph has four fucking championships.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Like get out your feelings. Hey, hold up, hey, step
is not gonna hear you say. I mean, hey, I'm
not gonna hear you say his name.

Speaker 11 (59:36):
Be like, thank you, bro, appreciate No, that'd be real
step got four fucking championships, Like, get out your feelings, bro.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Just it is what it is. He's what it is.

Speaker 9 (59:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I love Chuck, but I'm going with I'm gonna win.
I love Chuck too. That I got Jerry.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
You're going with Steph, with Steph, Shaye Gillis, Alexander, Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 11 (59:57):
I'm going Anthony Edwards because I was a two way player.
I play on both fens of the court, So I'm
going after the News.

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
I'm gonna say Shae just because he big and but
I love both of them. Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson.
I'm going high Lee off the Top, the y off
top me versus Matt Kids one on one. I'm going
with the Twins and I'm putting it on the house.
So get you a gilly bet. He gonna he's gonna

(01:00:22):
play my Twins. So you guys are gonna see that
coming coming to you. They're only fifteen, by the way,
but they got something for you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
We're gonna we're gonna cook Top five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Ever, all he's.

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
Saying is he need a babysitter for the day. Need
you come babysitting and cook the kids for me. Oh,
I'm gonna come on live and under five one and
under five one? Where are you playing directly?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
What the fuck with that?

Speaker 10 (01:00:42):
The midget League?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I never knew the midget League exists? So so seventy six?
Is this supposed to be all year? Y'all got Paul,
y'all got Maxine? You got no no, come on, come on,
come on, come on, come on, you bick on.

Speaker 9 (01:01:00):
Retchie Jackson, Reggie Jackson, Caleb Martin, Yes, come on, keep coming.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
No talk to me. This is a rookie.

Speaker 9 (01:01:07):
The rookie who from Duke, who just played in the
preseason had four McCain McCain, McCain. Okay, okay, uh, y'all,
Beselli from overseas. We got a squad better than Boston. Yeah,
we better than Boston. Okay, yeah, Ricky Ricky counsel, he

(01:01:29):
is tough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
He just got better.

Speaker 15 (01:01:31):
Eagles got a chance, y'all. You know we got a chance,
No chance, I got a question. Y'all better than the Knicks, Yeah, yeah,
y'all better than the next.

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
Yeah, we better than the Knicks. Yeah, we better than
the Knicks. You okay, let's just keep it real. The
Knicks just fucked up. They got Cat Cat Cat Man
and B Bully that nigga mate, and B Bully that
nigga man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They two hands, didn't they? What? They three hands? Didn't
they say that? Again? I said they two hands, didn't they? Yeah?
I mean whooped you be bullied him chunked out by
Ben Simming. That's even worse. Yeah, I forgot about that man.
Thank you again one more time. Appreciate you guys for

(01:02:20):
coming out tonight.

Speaker 11 (01:02:26):
Mm hmmm

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
H