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January 7, 2026 77 mins

Scramblin’ Randall was the original dual-threat quarterback and one of the most electric players the game has ever seen. Matt and Stak sit down with Randall Cunningham, now Pastor Cunningham, to trace his journey from UNLV to the Philadelphia Eagles and beyond. Cunningham shares his thoughts on today’s stars like Lamar Jackson and Shedeur Sanders, reflects on playing alongside Randy Moss and Cris Carter, and tells unforgettable stories from his life on and off the field. From college football days with Suge Knight, to hearing his name dropped in Jay-Z’s Heart of the City, to dating Whitney Houston, this episode is packed with moments you don’t want to miss. Buckle up. This one sets the tone perfectly for the NFL playoffs.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back all the smoke Las Vegas Players era college
basketball Tournament. Shout out to the MGM and Park MGM
for having us. But we decided to throw a little
curveball at y'all, or maybe not a curveball, a long ball,
an audible. There you go down. I'll Mary Hall Mary.
That'll work too. Man. Someone I grew up idolizing one
of my favorites football players. I wore the number twelve

(00:23):
and initially wanted to be quarterback because of him, but
I found out I was a better receiver than quarterback.
I actually got a chance to go watch him preach
Sunday and kind of seal the deal here as well. Man,
welcome to the show, the great Randall Cunningham.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you. I mean to
be able to sit next to you. Know, this is
probably the perks of what we do is you know,
we get a chance to interview some amazing people. But
this is special for me because again, you were one
of mine. You and Jerry Rice were my two favorite
players growing up, and to be sitting here with you
today is a treat. I want to read it. A

(01:00):
comment that we found online. That was really praising you said,
Randall set the standard for all black quarterbacks who were
not getting drafted up until him. Not McNabb, not Vic,
not Lamar. It was Randall cutting him. When you sit
back and look at your career, do you understand now
how important you were and the and the ceilings you

(01:21):
broke and the doors you broke down for today's modern quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, I don't. And once again, thanks for having me
on the show. I've seen you guys in. Yeah, you
guys got it going up. I don't really do podcasts,
so you know, I'm always busy at church. So it's
like to be able to sit here, it's an honor,
it's my honor.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
We appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And are you guys doing great things? No, I don't.
And I don't look back and think that I deserve
any credit in a form of humility. I'm just so
grateful that these guys are getting the opportunity. I saw
a statistic recently that they were speaking about the African
American quarterbacks who are starting in the NFL now, and
it was half of the league, and I just I

(02:03):
kind of just smiled because I know what I went through.
It wasn't as dark and gloomy as maybe would Vince
Evans or Doug Williams or Warren or Shaq went through
back in the day. But I did have my experience
of people who didn't like me because of my skin color.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
How did you deal with that? Again, this is you know,
talent Asi. You're one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in
the game, but still you can't outrun the color of
your skin. And that's when a lot of people, the
standards some people held you to.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
You know, I kind of I went through a lot
when I was a kid being in Santa Barbara, California,
growing up where it was, you know, not very many
African Americans predominantly Hispanic and Caucasian people. So I got
to see the other side of growing up with friends
that didn't look like me. But how did I handle it?
When I first was drafted to the Philadelphia Eagles, I

(02:51):
went into the press conference and the first question was
how do you feel being a black quarterback in Philadelphia?
And immediately I had to defer or stay away from
the question. I said, you know, I'm in South Philly,
so I thought I was Italian, and that's how I
answered the question because I didn't want to open it

(03:12):
up to more discussion. So it's kind of like, well,
you asked me the wrong question. I don't want to
talk about that, and so it was kind of like
shutting it down in a light way. I just really
didn't deal with it. I didn't want to look at
myself as I'm black, I'm white, I'm Hispanic, I'm Hawaiian whatever.
I didn't want to deal with that. I just wanted
to play ball.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Being the Trailblazers that you are.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Do you think you were the first duel threat quarterback
or who was before you that you looked as somebody
that you looked up to?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Everybody in you know, forty fifty sixty years old. We
know about Fran tarking to Roger the Dodger. Even there
were guys Bobby Douglas back in the day who I
didn't know about until they started telling me, and he said,
you just took his record down, the rushing record. I'm like, oh, okay,
but these guys were dynamic. I didn't think the same

(03:59):
way they thought. I don't believe when I went into
the game, I wanted to study not just the defensive
backs and the linebackers. I wanted to study the defensive
lineman because I wanted to know if I have to
get out of there, I need to know the percentages
of me getting out of the pocket and keeping myself healthy.
So I was trying to stay healthy because I was
only six foot four and a half one hundred ninety
six pounds when I went into the NFL. So I

(04:21):
was one of the lighter guys. You know, I wasn't
Big Ben in Pittsburgh, you know, with this nice physique.
I was just a skinny dude. And they're wondering. They
used to say, hey, they used to compare me to
Robinson and I'm like, no, I don't play basketball. David
Robins said, yeah, I'm like, no, that's not me. I'm like,
do we really look alike? But it was because I'm

(04:42):
so I was so slim.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I'm going to ask you about two guys. Give
me your thoughts. Should do a Soundles love.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Him the treatment and everything he's going through. Whoo, that's
a lot. And I was so happy he got that
victory against the Raiders here in Vegas. But I like him.
I loved that kid. Ever met him before, but I
love him. Of course, Dean and I are friends, but
I just really I watch him and he really wants
to stay calm and he just really wants to get

(05:10):
through everything. And he doesn't come off as arrogant or
or like I'm all of that. He is all of that.
And I'm telling you, once he gets the real opportunity
to have all the weapons around him and a defense
and everything, and they just say, Okay, we're just gonna
go with you. You're going to see the same kid you
saw in college, most dynamic player, you know, playing quarterback.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
The kid is good. He's really good. But I mean
there's a stigma of you know, being a Sanders and
the prime time and all of that, and I think
that that kind of overshadows who he is because he's
a great kid.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's embracing.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Really, I watch his interviews and I'm like, yeah, I
wish I was wise like that when I first got Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, I think obviously too. With him. It's for some
quarterbacks it's okay to be confident, but his confidence is
labels arrogance or cockiness instead of just being confident because
he's no, he's's put the work in. As you said,
he's media I mean, he's built for this. Yeah, he's
built for this, and it just rubs people the wrong way,
which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah. Lamar Jackson, Oh my god, when he was up
for the Heisman, I was calling him. I think I
think I called him when he was sitting there, you know,
and who was gonna win the Heisman? Love him. I
think he's possibly the greatest quarterback ever to play. I mean,
Brady was a different quarterback, but Lamar is probably the
most talented quarterback in the history of sports. I don't

(06:29):
care if it's rugby, football, whatever it may be. This
young man is so dynamic and I will go to
games and see him, and I don't go to football games,
but I'll go see him. Yeah, at any point in time,
he could change the game and the excitement and just
knowing that at any point in time he might run

(06:51):
for a sixty seventy ninety yard touchdown, or he might
launch a bomb. He might you know, hit a slant
and run all the way to the end zone. High
five and the guys. You know, he's just that talented.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
When you're evaluating a quarterback, what's one of the most
important things you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, they're all smart you can't play quarterback unless you're
very smart. But I look at their.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Points moved me to receive safety.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
You can't get out there because there's no faking it
at the quarterback position. You're gonna get hit. You're gonna
have to make precise, split second decisions, so you have
to be on edge all the time. And then you
have to have a little crazy because you're getting hit
by three hundred and fifty pound guys and you have
to get up. So it's amazing. But Lamar and shaduur

(07:40):
amazing players.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Let's take it back a little bit. Your older brother, Sam,
all American fullback at Southern California, went on to play
for the Patriots pro bowler, led them in rushing for
six years. What did you pick up from him to
help you with the game? You developed?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Get teary eyed because he passed away a few years ago.
But he lived I think to about seventy, which was
good because my father passed away at fifty six. But
I remember when I was in high school, my junior
year going into my senior year, and he came to town
and whenever he would come to town, you could hear his
SS chevelle coming down the street with those glass packed pipes,

(08:21):
and we would hear him coming and we would get
excited because we finally got to see our brother. And
I asked him a question. I proposed this question, I said,
I said, Junior, I said, can I make it into
the NFL? This is at seventeen years old? And he says,
your arm is as strong as the NFL quarterbacks right now.
That gave me great confidence. He said, but you have

(08:42):
to develop your leadership. And I was like, okay. So
from that point on, that's what I worked on, going
and gathering my teammates and working just behind the scenes,
staying after practice and just really taking it to the
next level. And we were blessed that year. I think
we went thirteen and one. We got beat by the
Great Long Beach PAULI you know they're still yeah, yeah,

(09:06):
but it was it was it was just him sewing
a seed, saying, you need to be a leader. If
you can't be a leader, don't try to go to
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
You were so called at UNLV that your jersey was
retired while you were still playing.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
We talked about that.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That was a blessing. I didn't know any of that
was going to happen. I didn't know that I was
doing well enough to be honored like that. But I
had a great group of guys on the team, guys
from California, a lot of California kids.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
You play with somebody that everybody knows. Oh yeah, night
he played with Mary Knight.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
My brother was marrying back we were college. We do
and shug, but he was marrying with us.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
How was he? What was he like back then?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
He was cool?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I mean? And you know, every time I saw him
over the years. I saw him the night that the
Tupac got shot, hugged him into everything. You know, he
was yoked up too. It was big, but it was
like just like college.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
It was nothing crazy or anything like that. It's just
the same old guy, you know. So to have my
my jersey retired was it was a blessing because I
go to the games. I have a box at the
U and l big games. I was telling you, and
I love going to the games because I get to
support the guys, and uh, I see people wearing my
jersey still in college, and I'm like, wow, that's it's

(10:25):
an honor to me that somebody still remembers me from
playing college football, you know, because that was eighty through
eighty four, I believe.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, it was. I was born in eighties.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, maybe it was.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Vegas in the eighties. What was that like? You know,
the boxing was heavy. Oh, yes, talk about Vegas and eighties.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
In the nineteen eighties, we had a dynamic basketball team
with Richie Adams and Sydney Green and all these guys,
and uh, it was it was they were the talk
of the town basketball and everybody went to the games.
I remember we used when they built the Thomas and man,
we had twenty thousand people and they would come every
time there was a game, and you know, I just

(11:06):
remember those guys just really being what represented UNLV. But
Las Vegas with the boxing, Oh my gosh. I used
to go. I remember we would go and we would
be ushers at the Caesars Palace and we would wipe
the seat and I remember OJ would come in and
he would tip us a couple of dollars.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, Is that why you were in college?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yes, they would let us have a job just doing that,
and we would we would we would get an opportunity
to go and watch the fight, but we were ushering
and all the celebrities would come into town, and it
was it was great. It was like you wanted to
live here in Las Vegas. It was just it was
the place to be. It wasn't about the gambling. To me,

(11:47):
it was born so about the celebrities that would come
in town.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
One of your mostmable memorable boxing matches, you recall.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Holy Field Tyson, Well, well both I went to both
of them. I paid all that went to it. I'm
a big holy Field fan and a Tyson fan, and
back then I hadn't met Tyson, but I'd met Holyfield,
and you know, he was just a nice person. Still
is the nicest guy. But I would always go and
spend time with him after the boxing match and we

(12:14):
would sit and he would sit just like we're sitting
here and just talk like a normal person. And that's
what I love so much about him. He's down to earth,
but Sugar Ray Hagler, hearns all those boxing matches. I
got to be at all of those boxing matches as
a young college kid. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
How hard was it to keep your head on straight
around the town with all that going on?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's very difficult, you know, you know, leaving high school
and living in a small town like Santa Barbara, California,
and coming to Las Vegas. This is this place is different.
It was different back then, and it's even you know,
grown and become bigger now. But it was hard because
there were so many distractions. I mean I looked like

(12:55):
I was twenty one years old, so I can go
into the casinos and we would go to the buffets
and things like that and try to stay there all day, eating,
eating all the food, but just trying to stay away
from the gambling. All of the clubs, all different types
of clubs. You know, it was just had I had
to stay focused or I knew I wouldn't make it.

(13:18):
I mean I could have ended up in an alley
somewhere if i'd have went down the wrong street.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Any lessons that you learned, because I remember, you know,
I went to UCLA and I felt like that was
kind of like our bubble, you know, although LA surrounded us,
we kind of still felt safe and we did things
we probably shouldn't have did and got away with some stuff.
Was there stuff here that you did or maybe you
had a wake up call that you kind of remember, like, yo,
I need to get it together.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yep, And I'm almost I almost don't want to share it.
Come on, now you're here, I mean, I'll do it
for you, guys.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Because appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Keep it real. My first year of college, I was
staying in a studio with one of the teammates because
we hadn't got our stipend checks yet. And this girl
saw that I was tall and she wanted me to
be her pimp. And my response was no, I want
to be a professional football player. And that ended that interesting.

(14:08):
I don't even think that was me speaking the natural being.
I think it was the spirit speaking through it. But
I was like, nah, I want to be a professional.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So she came up and said, will you be my pimp?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah? Yeah, all you have to do is bail me out?
And I'm like, no, where could I sign? Nah? No,
that could have been That could have been.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
The end of my life right there. Yeah. Crazy, you
know I could be in.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Prison right now and now I get to hang out
with you guys.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want that car all my life. No,
why has the u s LA? I mean, excuse me,
UNLV's either. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I had much success recently in football, basketball.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Basketball wise, I can't give you the answer, but we
do have a new athletic director who is turning things around,
which is yeah, yeah, yeah. So things are turning around
at un LV. Our football team. Now, I think we're
nine and two. I think that's our record eight and two.
Are nine and two, and we're not ranked, but that's

(15:15):
what we were when I was playing. We were nine
and two, and then we went ten and two and
finally eleven and two, and they put our whole team
in the Hall of Fame, the Southern Nevada Hall of Fame.
Oh really, Yeah, So I think that with Eric Harper
as our new athletic director, oh, things are turning around.
He cares about not only the school but Las Vegas,

(15:37):
and he doesn't want to go anywhere. And most of
the coaches who come here, they're using it as a springboard.
They want to come and spring to somewhere else. That's bigger.
But I mean with the stadium we have now, Thomas
Max still amazing. With the Raiders stadium, you can't ask
for anything better. I mean, so he's doing an excellent job.
Our players on the team are great. We're not just

(15:58):
getting California players. We're get players from Georgia, Florida, Texas, everywhere.
You know, there's a lot of players that are coming.
It's not just the West Coast Crew.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Fun fact, you played three years as a start of
UNLB and broke eighteen UNLV records.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
He was also named first team All American as a punter. Yeah,
that's crazy. How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
When I was young, I was just I played everything.
I was not good at basketball. Just let y'all know.
I can rebound and couldn't shoot. I could dunk, Yeah,
I could dunk, but after I did the tip off,
I was so tired running back and forth. I do
one of these right here. He pulled me out. Let
y'all do what you do. So I respected you guys.
But when I was young, I played every sport football, basketball, baseball,

(16:46):
ran track, I'd play soccer. And then one of the
great things. I went to the Boys Club, Santa Barbara
Boys Club every single day from when I was nine
years old all the way to seventeen, eighteen years old.
That was where I lived. And Donnie and Cliff Lambert
and the people who were there, they really treated us
like we were their sons, and and and because of

(17:09):
that I got to develop continually, not just picking one
sport and just playing one sport, but developing all of
my muscles, my motor skills and everything. And I love
track and field, so I would run track to keep
me in shape for football, and so it's just a
great place to grow up. And I think that that
helped me. And I was always kicking field goals, kicking

(17:31):
off punting from when I was a little kid because
I was bigger than everybody else, a big foot, So
that helped out too.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
It is day third longest punt in the NFL history.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I gotta tell you it was Wendy that day. I
got a lot of help that day.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I feel like, and I love that you touched on this,
that I was someone who lettered in four sports in
high school, all American and two and I felt like
all those skills you know, led me to you know,
an NBA career. Kids today don't get a chance to
do that anymore. And what are your thoughts on that?
Because you're still actively coaching and have people in sports,
what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, it's kind of like everything is becoming tighter
because you have so many club sports and there's so
much hypening now you see what's happening in basketball, same
thing in seven on seven. You know, it's like we're
hyping all these kids up like they're going to be
the Olympians and the NBA players when it's really not
that easy. And to get three letters, that's like you're

(18:35):
one of the greatest in the United States. So to
get four, that doesn't happen anymore. You know, you play
one sport and an off season you are training and
trying to hopefully doing your nutrition and you know, training
your body in the right areas with the pliometrics and
the weights and everything, but you got to take care
of your body and you need time off because the
sports are so long now it's like they're ten months. Yeah,

(18:58):
year around sports. And it was like that when I
grew up, it was you know, there was football, it
was season past, yeah, it was seasons yeah yeah. But
everything is a club sporty. You know, I'm about to
put my daughter, my thirteen year old daughter in volleyball,
and I'm like, well, what about tracks? Is ah a,
we got we got an Olympian, three time olympian, you

(19:18):
got an NCAA indoor and outdoor champion, you got state champions.
These are what your siblings have done.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's in your blood.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I just want to do volleyball or o thing. Yeah,
I'm like, you gonna do track too.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Nineteen eighty five, the thirty seventh picked to the Philadelphia Eagles.
What did that moment right there alone mean to you?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'll tell you about the process. I'm sitting there with
a guy from ESPN or a writer from you know,
Sports Illustrated or whatever, and the draft is on, and
you didn't go to the draft back then, you know,
you didn't have your nice customs suiting, a whole bunch
of jewelry hanging cool hat. You sat and you watched
it on television. And I was sitting there in the

(19:59):
first went by, and they said that I would be
The projection was I would be drafted in the second
or third round. But I just wanted to be drafted
in the first round. And I'm Kodak All American punter,
animal quarterback, so I'm figuring, you know, maybe I will.
So the first round goes by, I'm not drafted. Second
round go so I picked one, two, three, four, five,
and I just lost it. I said, I got to

(20:21):
get out here. I don't even want to watch it anymore.
So I left and I went to the mall. And
when I came back, my next door neighbor who was
a teammate, he says, you got drafted. And you know,
I wanted to play for the Raiders or the Chargers.
I wanted to stay on the West Coast. And they
said you got drafted. I said by who? They said, Philly.
I said really, I said, stop lying, because I was
just done. I was thinking I was going to get drafted.

(20:43):
And he said, check your answering machine. So I went
to my answer machine and Lynz Styles, it's one of
the directors. He says, random Conningham, this is Lynn Styles
and the Philadelphia Eagles. We've drafted you the seventh pick
or ninth pick overall in the second round, and you're
going to be an ego. So G me a call
and I was like, wow, that's deep. I really And

(21:04):
so I made the call, and uh yeah, I made
the call. And sure enough, you know, I went there
and I had already signed with the USFL. I signed
a you know, a three million dollar deal for five
years with the USFL, and they didn't know about it.
Because I was like, had a little backup plan.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh so you did that before the NFL draft even happened.
I talked to us about that.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I liked that mister Bassett was with the Tampa Bay
Bandits and my agent was Jim Steiner at that time,
and Jim said, look, we got assured that you're going to,
you know, be able to take care of your family
in the future. So here's a contract, and uh, you know,
we don't know what's gonna happen with the NFL. You
should be drafting the second or third round. He's just
be signed this contract. So I inked it. And uh

(21:50):
when the owner, Norman Brahman found out, we will never
sign you to a contract here with the Philadelphia Goals,
and I really didn't pay attention to it because I
already had a carntract. But then the league folded before
and so there was litigation in all the nonsense. But
ended up playing for Philly.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
So that was I don't really know money, money, what
it was like back then, but three million dollars oh
at the gate was a monster.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was. There were big contracts. Steve
Young had signed a forty million dollars deal with the
l Express or someone like that. Herschel Walker was getting
getting busy, and it was, but the league.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Folded so it didn't make a difference.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
And we all ended up back in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Or any NFL Any interesting or crazy pre draft questions
that you got.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
You know, people were asking me, do you think you'll
get drafted? Like, why won't I get drafted? The statistics
show I've got twenty five hundred each each year. The
only people had done that back then had thrown for
twenty five hundred yards were John Lway and myself and
Doug Flutie. So I'm figuring, yeah, it probably should be

(22:58):
in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Why not. You shared a big city with some big
names Mosas Malone, doctor J, Charles Barkley. Any fun stories
before you decided to really lock in you have.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I got to hang out with Barkley. He was a
great dude. I met doctor J, and I was like, man,
that's doctor J. Teddy Pendercash lived in like Philly, Mike
Schmidt and all these guys ron he style. I was
just another guy in town, you know. But it was
like really amazing to be in the fifth largest city

(23:34):
in the United States and be able to walk out
of the locker room and we had the same stadium
and just go watch the baseball game, you know, Shilling
doing his thing and watching all these guys playing. And
it was really really amazing. And you know, now Vegas
is becoming like that. But it was different being in

(23:54):
Philadelphia because the people are sports enthusiasts.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
They know their sports. Oh my god, how long did
it take for you to win over the fans?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You know, they didn't know who I was, and I
didn't know who I was. But when I played in
the preseason my first year, I ran for one hundred
yards or something like that, and They're going like, who
is this kid? And they would just say, that's Sam
Bam Cunningham's little brother Will. Okay, yeah, but who is
the kid? We know who Sam is. And so I
was telling my daughter this, My little daughter, Sophia, thirteen

(24:25):
years old, just I said to her, you know, Sophia,
I was thinking I wasn't gonna play my first year.
I'm like, Ron Jawissey is the quarterback. I got to
sit over here for about two or three years, and
he's probably going to retire and then I'll be ready
to play. And I said, but Sophia. The first game
we went to play the Giants and we hadn't passed

(24:45):
the fifty yard line, and I said, man.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Let's got you know, I'm just rooting Jaworski on, handing
them water, doing everything I can. Then and coach Marchha
brought to said warm up. I knew he wasn't talking
to me. In my mind warm up. I was content,
I'm going to sit for two or three years. And
I'm like, warm up, who warm your arm up? And

(25:12):
so I started warming up, and I'm like, you know,
like this, I get in the game, I get ready
to put my hands under there, and I look over
there and there's, yeah, Carl Banks, LT's over there, Carson Bert.
And I'm like, man, I'm in the NFL. I think
I didn't get to snap that play, but it was
it was it was it was something, you know, that

(25:34):
was something she had froze. I was, yeah, I was
froze for a few games.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
When did how long do you feel like it took
you to kind of get your feet under you, because
I mean, this is right out the gates.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
The next week, I think it was the next week,
we went to Washington and I'm like, oh god, and
the Jeworski kept telling me. He said, look, man, the
regular season is not the same as the preseason. Take
it up about seven knots. And I didn't understand that.
And I went in the game. They condensed it from
about ninety plays to about fifteen or twenty plays for

(26:06):
me so that I can get it down. And we
went down there and I just remember, I don't think
I was completing passes. I might have been thrown interceptions.
But I threw a ball to Ernest and he took
it to the house and we ended up winning the
game in Washington. We hadn't beaten the Redskins in Washington
and we don't know how many years. So now they're
patting me on the back and I'm supposed to be

(26:27):
someone and I don't have a clue. Go to the
next game. I get hurt. My thumb came out, was
way over here. I'm coming off like this, yeah, my thumb.
And then I went like that and went back in.
I said, oh, I'm good, and I went back in
the game. That's kind of yess, how crazy you got
to be in the NFL. You can't You just didn't
sell it. Did after the game. So I was out

(26:48):
the next week and the week after, and Joworski went
in there and got busy on them. And it's just
it was a learning curve.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It was. It was.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
It was difficult, and so I think I really began
to feel it probably about my third year, you know, like, Okay,
I could do.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
This, the game slowing down a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And the other thing was the trust factor of the
coaches trusting me. They would limit me and like, well,
let's just not have him thrown interceptions because you know,
when you're a young kid, you're just gonna fire that
thing in there. But they taught me the game, you know,
and as I learned the game, it was like, Okay,
it did slow down. You know.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You guys know, Buddy Ryan was such a heavy, defensive
minded coach. How did you guys get along? Obviously your
style is they've seen it before, but I don't think
to the level of athleticism and arm strength that you
came into the game with. How did how did how
did that dynamic go with him?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Buddy was someone there was no reason for anyone to
try to figure him out. Because he was Buddy Ryan.
He was going to do what he wanted to do,
and he was always going to do his way. But
he loved us as players, which is what won us over.
You know, he was a players coach, and so you
would do whatever you had to do for him, and
he wanted bar room brawlers, and so we all became

(28:08):
those who took on his orror and so we were
just kind of almost like lunatics on the football field.
And so when teams played us, some of them were
a little concerned, like they might knock you, take your
knees out, they might try to rip your head off,
and that's kind of crazily, that's really who we were
as a team. We didn't care because we took on

(28:29):
his personality. But the main thing that I loved about
Buddy Ryan is that he saw my talent and he says, look,
I'm going to use you for what you like to
do and what you're great at, and we'll work on
the things that you're not good at. And I was like, wow,
that's patience. And so he said, make five big plays
and we'll win the game. Defense to do their job,

(28:51):
that's what he would say, and I'm like, okay, you
could do that, and we believed it, and we went
out and we would go ten and six and ten
and six, eleven and five, but we didn't win in
the playoffs. But he was a father figure to all
of us. I remember he ran us so bad, and
I was just like I had to go pick up
the game plan or my check, and I'm like, man,

(29:12):
I don't want to see him, you know, and you
know if you went by him, he was going to
say something to you.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Hold on. So the coach used to hand the game check.
I said, no to the office.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, so so.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
If I got to pay you off your performance today.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
So I went through there and I'm trying to just
you know, the old you walk by. Some of you
close your eyes so you don't see him, but they
see you. I tried that, and he said twelve, come
in here, and I'm like, oh man, I'm just like, man,
I just want to go home, study in my place.
He says, hey, kids, you're doing a great job. He

(29:51):
without saying I love you, he expressed it. And I'm
like sitting there like, man, this guy is a real deal.
And I walked out of his office and I'm saying, man,
I love that man. You know, that's how I really
felt it was like he cares. He doesn't care if
you're in a bad mood, you don't like him, He's
going to call you and be the same guy all
the time. And I think that's why we won games

(30:13):
with him.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
But I don't think people that may not play sports
understand how far that goes. Oh my God, the confidence
of your coach, the love of your coach, can change
the tra directory of your career.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah. So I've been coaching all of my own kids,
and praise God, they've all been successful. My daughter of Ashti.
People don't know that I know high jumped because they're like,
he was a football player, now he's a pastor, how
could he be coaching. Well, my daughters went to the
Olympics three times. She's been fifth and sixth, and there's
times that she's won a gold at a World Indoor Championship,

(30:45):
a silver to the World Indoor Championship, a bronze and
an outdoor World Championship, two global goals, and people will
still say he doesn't know what he's doing. But here
we are ten years later, and it's not about me,
it's about what God is doing through us. My daughter's
won sixteen national titles. She's almost the record holder and

(31:06):
she's only twenty seven years old. Has nothing to do
with me. It's just I love her, pour into her
and whoever trains with her. They're my kids, and I
pour into them everything that I have, and I'll bend
over backwards, just like Buddy Ryan Tatters.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I love that same way. Yeah, the late great Reggie White, Yes,
obviously we got to see his talents. What are some
of the stuff we didn't get to see?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Reggie was no joke. The late Reggie White. Reggie would
get in your face, and I kind of take that
from him as a minister. I remember he told me
I was when I was young in the league, my
first or second year or whatever, third year. He said,
I was living with a person and he said, you

(31:51):
should marry that girl. I said, then, why are you
with her? Either marrier or or leave her alone. He's
up to you. I was like, you don't. Then he
brought this one to me. You're Christian. Randall said, yes,

(32:11):
you pay your tithes. I said, no, show me in
the Bible where he said he took me to Malako
chapter three, And from that day I have been paying
my tithes. Ever since nineteen eighty six, I think I've
been paying my ties because he got in my face
and challenged me to do what God told me to do.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
What was how big was he?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Six five and a half three point fifty bench press?
Whatever you put on the bar, he did best pressed
the bar would do like this. And then the thing
about him is when game time came, his eyes would
turn bloodshot red because he would joke around and play
around like a little kid the whole week in practice,

(32:52):
joking around, and he would get in the game and
he would get in his stance and he say, get ready,
here comes Jesus. And he used to toss three hundred and
fifty pounds with this thing called the club. He used
to he would run and he would club them. And

(33:13):
I mean, I saw guys fly in practice, and I
saw guys fly in the game. This is this is
real stuff pro bowlers. And I'm like, yeah, you don't
mess with Reggie blocking him one on one. It wasn't
gonna happen. And then you throw Jerome Brown in.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
About it, Reggie, They and just throw them off one.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
On I saw that practice. We would have our our
blitz drill ones versus ones the defensive ones and the
offensive ones. And I was standing in the shotgun normally
at five feet about five yards, I was about six
or seven. They snapped that ball and he and Jerome
and go looking on Pitts and all those dudes would
come through. I just hand them, coach the ball.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Here you go, blow the whistle.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean that was like in the second and a half.
So when you talk about Reggie White, he not only
was a great player, he influenced the guys around him.
And one of the probably the greatest defense in the
history of the league was nineteen ninety ninety one, I think,
or ninety one or ninety three.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, on the other side of someone else that was
also special in the same division as you, Lawrence Taylor.
Oh yeah, I talked to us about LT.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
LT. I've always had the utmost respect for LT and
the Giants. They just were just a scrappy rugged just
come on up here to New York, you know. And
I remember herschel Walker was telling me during the week.
He said, man, they need to change his game plan.

(34:46):
They got me blocking LT. I'm gonna do my job,
but they need to slide within them big offensive tackles
and I'll help the tackle out.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I'll chip him out.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
So I remember LT. It was a third down and
I dropped back and it was third and eight and
I had to get the first down or games over.
And I took off and I'm running, and all of
a sudden, here comes LT. And I put my hand
out as big as I can make, and I try
to stiff on his face as hard as I could,

(35:19):
and I got him, but I didn't get the first down.
So he dragged me down about this far short of
the first down. And I already had respect, but I
gained more respect because it's one thing for Lamar Jackson
and Montana and Barry Sanders to make a play, but
he made it on the defensive side of the ball,

(35:40):
you know, so that I gained so much more respect
for him.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
You played in an era of great, great quarterbacks who
were some of your favorite matchups to go against. Obviously,
I know it's the team, but you also played against
some great Oh I like going against Lway el Way, Yeah,
because Lway was he.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Was just scrappy. He could run, He had all the
ability that I watched him in Stamford pitching and all that,
and I just I looked at him. It's just like
I want to go against l Way, you know. And
I had respect for him and the team and Dvance
Johnson and whatever they call the Three Amigo's. Then they
had Shannon Sharp. They had just a great team. And

(36:18):
I mean, I like going against Steve Young also because
Steve and I we would battle it out for the
rushing title. And I remember being in the Pro Bowl
one year and we're sitting eight and twelve and he
keeps looking at me like this, and I'm like this, dude's.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Staring at me like you guys didn't know each other
really yet.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Playing against each other. So he's right here and he
keeps staring at me. I'm trying not to look at him.
And I turned around and look at me. He's like this.
Because I got the MVP that year, He's like, you're
all right, Randall that day. He became my favorite player
that day because you know, he's an LDS guy and

(36:55):
I've always appreciated his faith. There was even a time
when he was up for commercial with Coca Cola and
they called me up and they said, Randa, we got
a commercial for you, and I said, all right, cool.
We were going to try to give it to Steve Young,
but he wouldn't take it because it has caffeine in it.
And I said, you mean like coffee type caffeine. I

(37:16):
mean it's not illegal, and I asked him about it.
He basically said, yeah, it's just part of who we are.
We don't use caffeine. And that was two hundred thousand
dollars in my pocket. So he really became my favorite.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Speaking of money in your pocket. Nineteen and eighty seven's
Labor Dispute any memorable stories from back then and explain
to those that don't know what a scab was.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Scab was a player who crossed the line. And in
a town with teamsters the way we had them and
the union, that was not the thing to do. But
there were players who were injured who had to go
get treatment. But the scab players were players that would
replace us. And Philadelphia was like a no, no town
to do that, big union town. And I just remember

(38:05):
all the teamsters, the truckers and just everybody from the
unions coming together as one unit. And that really showed
me the city of brotherly love. Because this was so
crazy that I could let this out now, But I
remember there were trucks blocking the exits where you couldn't
get off and go to the stadium. Big rigs just parked,

(38:28):
you know, would sign tires, flat engine broke down. But
the city stuck together and it's like, don't don't come
in here without our players. We want play. Oh yeah,
And there was unity and we we picketing with them.
We became players who got to hang out with everybody
in society, and we developed even deeper relationships with the community.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I love that one of my favorite video games of
all time. And you were arguably one of the greatest
players on that But why was your name q QB
Eagles Mob? Yeah? Man, what happened there? I didn't give
him the rights, okay, So that that you just weren't interested.
Then the money wasn't right.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Money wasn't right, okay, And uh but I played it.
You still play I played it?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yes, I did. You were a bad man on that game. Man,
You and Bo Jackson on that game.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Unbelievable himage Smith.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I would play against the Cowboys all the time, and
Emmett would run for two hundred and eighty three hundred
yards and you couldn't stop him. And uh, but I
got pretty good at the game, and I would pull
all the starters out and I could finally beat the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
You know, you took their starters out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
No, I took our starters out because I got I
got better at the game, you know, and uh, there
was just ways you could you could win on the game.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
You were quoted saying back then, I was a different person.
I was immature. I was trying to figure out who
I was. Can you speak to that, because I think
as men and as we grow up, we all come
to that moment at some point, especially evolving for the better,
changing for them.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm just grateful my parents took
me to church growing up, because at least I was
sitting in the House of God, and I didn't know
who he was. I did not have a relationship with God.
But when I got to NFL and I began to
realize I got it going on. You know, you get

(40:20):
to that point where that pride kicks in as an athlete.
And so I remember I was driving and walking down
the road one day and I had set these visions
and goals of being a professional football player from when
I was a little kid nine years old, and I
said this to God. I said, God, I must owe
you something, and it was like an audible voice from
him said, you owe me your life. And I didn't

(40:43):
understand that because I didn't really understand who God was,
and so I did things that I was not happy.
My vocabulary was horrible. My desire for life. I wanted
a wife, and I just figured you just went out
and dated people if you know it worked out, it
worked out, and get married. But that wasn't how I

(41:04):
was supposed to do it. And thank God that I
woke up. But during then I was ignorant, I was foolish,
and I did things that I'm not proud of today.
And once again my vocabulary, I didn't think before I spoke,
and I was just not who God wanted me to be.

(41:27):
And then I had my encounter. You know, I did
a lot of things that I'm not proud of, you know,
and it was just my character, you know, because whatever
the scene was, I fell into the scene. If people cursed,
I cursed. If people drink, I drank, And you know,
I don't drink. I don't smoke, I don't smoke cigars.

(41:49):
I don't smoke cigarettes. I don't smoke pipes. I don't
do any of that. I don't curse anymore. My life
has turned around, and it's because I had a revelation
that God really is.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
That cussing part. How long did that take?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I cursed all my life. I think my peers and
my parents taught me pretty much how to do it.
But I think by I think I was probably twenty
something years old, and I said, you know, if I
love God, I got to keep my mouth clean. And

(42:23):
that's when it started to change for me when I
started reading my Bible.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Though.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
When I started reading the Bible, it says we praise
our Lord and Father and we curse men who have
been made in His similar to both praise and cursing
from the same tongue. This should not be. That's in
the Book of James. And like, when that one hit me,
I was like, yeah, so I became like a recluse
and people were like, he's an enigma. They couldn't figure

(42:49):
me out. I'm like, I can't figure myself out. You know,
I'm trying to find out what my identity is and
you know, my validation. I'm not validated by sports now,
and I realize that not how much money I have,
but I'm validated by the blood that came out of
Jesus Christ. And oh my god, when I think about that,
I'm okay. Now I can I can conquer all of
the things in my life that are hindering me from

(43:12):
being whom I'm supposed to be, and studying my Bible
would change that. I started studying every single day, you know,
chapter day. I would meditate on a word and that
really helped me. I really did.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
That's interesting, especially fun at that young age. Again, as
we talked on the kind of off camera in the
middle of the midst of your career, with all the
noise around, to be able to lock into that is special.
Your style of play. You're running, you're diving over the
top of line, jumping over people, throwing the ball the
way you did. When did that catch up to you

(43:45):
because you had some of you.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Do you think it caught up to me yet? Because
in my mind I think I could do it, But
you know, at sixty two years Oh, that's not happening.
I watched old I watched old Dak going in the
end zone against the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
It didn't Hey, I'm happy he did it, but he
did not know how to fall.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
He was like, he broke his neck. I'm talking about
he felt he felt crazy. Yeah, it off.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
He was about this high off the ground too. But
he got in there, you know, but I was like, oh,
is he all right? I was like, darn it. He scored,
you know, but it's like, yeah, when I got to
I had this thing, when you get to the five,
you die. When you get to the four, you gotta score.
You get to the three is up to me. You
get to the two, you know what to do. You
get to the one, job's done.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That's kind of how I thought, one more time, one
more time, to.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Five, you gotta dive, get to the four, you gotta score.
You get to the three, it's up to me. You
get to the two, you know what to do, you
get to the one.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Jobs done.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
So I kind of lived with like little cliches like that.
And when I saw that to that the other day
and I'm like, man, that dude did whatever it took
to get in there. Yeah, to get in there. And
and that was probably the difference in the game that
when he did that, his team was like he sold
himself out for us, and the next thing, you know,
it was a done deal, and I turned the game off,

(44:58):
you know, because I had been praying for Jalen Hurts.
That's my boy. I prayed for him all the time.
But when I started twenty one twenty one and then
something happened, we had a punch or something like, oh,
I was like, oh my gosh, I don't want to Yeah,
it was the fumblem I was like, oh my gosh,
my boys. You know, so I just prayed without watching
too much. It's too much for me to handle.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Do you have a favorite run of your career?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I have two. One was against the Washington Redskins at home.
I dropped back and I never wanted Dave Butts to
touch me because he was big. He had an angry
look on his face and he weighed three hundred and
sixty pounds, and so when I dropped back, I saw
him coming and I did one of those and he

(45:43):
missed me, and I was like, oh, I was a
good one. Then I ran and there was guys coming
and I stopped. I put my brakes on my feet,
went to the front of my shoes and I cut
back in. I saw four guys fall down. I'm like, oh,
I'm still up, and then I ran and as I'm running,
I'm like, I'm gonna get there. I'm gona ge there,
and out of the corner of mine, here comes Daryl
fast as can be, and I'm thinking I got to

(46:05):
run from Daryl. I gotta go, and he's always catching me.
And then there's a DV right in front of me,
and I tried to run him over at about the
five or six yard line. That hurt. That hurt pretty bad,
and I'm all of the years that after that, I
thought it was Daryl that hit me, but it was
the guy in front of me. I probably got a
concussion and I didn't score. I got about to the

(46:28):
three and I'm pumped up, the adrenalines working and I'm excited.
And then the other one was against the Cowboys. I
dropped back and I rolled to the left, and I
was kind of cornered and one of the defensive linemen
and linebacker and I just duck and they flew over me.
And then I cut back in and I'm like, oh,
I'm still going. And then baits Bill Bates got me. Yeah,

(46:49):
he was a bar He got me though. Because I
was I thought I was going to have another one.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Randall cutting him celebrity rap without even knowing. You're one
of the pioneers to what we're doing today. Started back
in the in the in the early nineties. What was
that like and how that come about?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I loved it was like this. I got to sit
with a lot of people. You guys probably remember Downtown
Julie Brown.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Downtown Juli Judy.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah, I had watched her on MTV and uh, they
asked me who I want an interview? I said, and
so they threw out all these names and said her
and it was Donald Trump back then, believing he was
the man.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
We were talking about that on the wait like everyone
loved Trump back then, everybody loved him.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, so I said, I want Trump, I want Barkley,
I want andre Acacy and mc hammer. You know. So
I got to interview all of them, and uh, it's
it's on YouTube. Even the interview with Donald Trump was
on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I had my high top. I thought I was somebody.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Back in the day where that Where'd that style come from?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I don't know. It was a short kid and play.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
It was one right, I thought, k playing the late
great Whitney Houston. Talk about her.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
You're going deep now A little bit digging now.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Player, I got to ask some questions. Man.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Uh, you know, I was just a big Whitney Houston fan,
big in Vogue fan, of course, Michael Jackson and just
I love music and uh BB and c C whinings.
You know, they actually sang BB saying our wedding. But
I was I don't know. I was kind of toward
the peak of my career and I saw her, and

(48:32):
you know, I guess I was infatuated, just like every
all the other men. And I just happened to know
her publicist, and I said, do you think Whitney would
like to go out with me? If I asked her?
She said, yeah, ask her. So her nickname was Nippy.
So she invited me to I'm Your Baby to night
release party and it took a couple of teammates and
I went and I said, you think tonight would be

(48:52):
to night? And she said yeah, go ask her to
go on to day. Tell her you'll take her to Antigua.
And so I said, I said, Nippy said, hey, like
to take you out get to know you better, and
she said, real, that would be that'd be very nice.
I was shocked, you know, And so we met and
back then I told the owner of the team. I said, Hey,

(49:12):
I'm gonna go on a date with whitt Houston. He says, well,
I'm going to give you my private jet. I'm gonna
fly you to Antique with So.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
I filed the deal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I flew to Miami, stayed with Norman Brayman at his
house with he and his wife and just great people.
He sent me down there. I'm on the plane, I'm
listening to her album and to me, I was like,
and this is no offense to Bobby, you know, I
want to be careful, but I just thought she was
just a wonderful person and I was thinking, you know,
and back then she said she was single. So we

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went out and it was about a day and a
half day. You know, nothing big. We just went went
to dinner, hung out on the beach.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
But that was about it.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
It's a thing on INSTAGRAMD when somebody said could I
borrow some money and he sung the picture of Whitney
Houston and why you send me that? And the person said,
because I have nothing.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
For you. Yes. You made an appearance on Martin, one
of my favorite shows. What was that like?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Martin is a genius When I went to and Snoop
Dogg was on the show as well. But when I went,
I'm like, man, I get to be on the Martin Show.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
That was that was it back then, Whitney.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I mean, Arsenio Hall and Martin there. So I go
there and I meet Martin, just the nicest guy, and
he was studying the book was this big and I
guess he had to memorize the whole book. And I'm like,
and I had my little lines, you know, I'm just

(50:55):
messing up on my lines. And then I remember he
was playing Roy Rome. It's on YouTube. Yeah, so in
that he had libs and I'm not knowing that he's
gonna do that. So he says, you know, I had
just got my hair like tightened up ready, and he
said he said, look like you comb your head with

(51:16):
a brick. And I lost it. I lost it, And
I'm like, that wasn't on the script, you know, but
that was Martin. That was how witty and how smart
he is.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
He's so quick, like comb me head with a brick.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
And I was just laughing, and I messed that whole
scene up. We had to read through the whole scene.
But I've always and I got his phone number. I
got the contacted and they you know, Martin would answer,
and I sais I still had his number because I'd
like to call him see how he's doing.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
That's funny, jay Z Heart of the City name drop
uh scrambledack round the ways, scramblack around the ways coming
hand but the only thing running his numbers found one
of the best songs. How did you feel like when
you when you heard jay Z drop your name?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
He as crazy as that sounds. I don't listen to
rap because it takes me back to the person how
he used to be interesting, and so I can't go
out dancing. I can't listen to rap. I can't do
certain things. I have to have a little box around
me sometimes. But people would go like, jay Z put
you in this song, man, and I'm like, at first

(52:28):
I didn't know who he was. Wow, you know, because
like I said, I didn't listen around. I mean, I
know who the cool mod and Curtis blow are you
know from back of the day. These are the breaks,
you know. But and then I kept hearing the song,
like when I would go into stories and things like that,
I'm like, and then I'd hear my name I'm like,
he really did, I mean it rap song? It was,

(52:49):
it was, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I mean I think it was pretty cool man.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, jay Z, I mean, come on now, he's jay Z.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
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Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah. What was your history with Nike?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I had a contract with him, and my daughter is
signed with Nike right now. Just talk to the rep
the other day. But Nike has been a part of
my family because my brother Sam wore Nikes when he
was playing in the NFL, and then you know, Howard
Slusher was his agent and he's good friends with Phil Knight,
so there was an inn there, and like I always

(53:29):
wanted to wear Nike, you know, and then once Jordan
came around, everybody wanted to wear you know, and so
it was it was. It's been a great relationship, you know,
being my daughter's coach. They do have a coach of
stipend in there as well, so the relationship is still there.
And that's all I wear. I only wear Nikes. I
don't know, I don't wear anything else. If I'm not

(53:49):
wearing Nikes, I have a suit or jacket on or something.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
We see fly. You used to wear the all blacks though,
with the white or the gray uniforms. Like, where did
that come from.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Buddy Ryan?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
That was fly?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah. So when Jalen, when Jalen you know, busted him out,
it came up on my Facebook page, and I don't
even know why it came up that day, but they
had both of us right there, and so I took
a picture of it. I said, Man, I said, there
you go, bro, and He's like, yeah, I had to

(54:20):
represent you. And I'm like, I didn't know he was
doing it because I did it. And then I just
saw him wearing the white ones and I was like, okay, yeah.
But he's a great kid. I mean, I really love
his character. I love how he presents himself. I loved
he He's got a great wife, and he just represents

(54:43):
just who we should be in sports, especially in the
football game. Game of football is. I mean, there's so
much that comes at you and he just says so
calm and relaxed. I like that.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I'm not mistaken. He as an all women team around him,
as well as agents and managers and all. Yeah, strong
women to keep a nice tight circle. Yep, briefly nineteen
ninety five, you retired, but you were convinced to come
back by the late great Dennis Green.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
How that happened, Denny, Yeah, to go back a little
bit before, Jenny, there was a lot in public in
my life because I retired. I said, you're too young
to retire. When are you coming back? I said, I'm
not going back. And I told all the teams that
don't call me, I'm not going back. I'm done, you know.
And my thing was, I have enough money in the bank.
I played, I don't want to be you know, injured

(55:33):
and broke up, you know. I want to live my life,
you know, and take care of my family. And sure
enough they so many people asked me, when are you
coming back? I just got back down on my knees
and said, God, is this you speaking to me? Do
you want me to go back? Because if you want
me to go back, I'll do it. But other than that,
I'm not going back. And so I said, give me
a sign. If I'm supposed to go back, give me

(55:56):
a sign. Half teams called me up because I told
the teams, don't call me, I'm not coming back. Sure enough,
Jeff Fisher, Tennessee Titans called me up and said, hey, Randall,
I want you to come and help out with Eric McNair,
the lady Eric McNair. I want you to come and
be his like guy. And I said all right. And
I said, well, God, I'm going back, but I'm not

(56:17):
going back on my own. I'm leaning on you one
percent because I really didn't want to go back because
I just was done with it, you know, I didn't
like to being criticized so much, and it just really
it really like it took a toll on me emotionally
and mentally. And so I happened to go to Super
Bowl and I was working out in the gym and

(56:38):
this man came up to me, Keith Johnson. He says,
you're Randall County and said yep. He says, I'm the
chaplain for the Minnesota Vikings, Keith Johnson. And he says,
he says, what you're doing working out? And I said,
I'm making my comeback. He said, oh, that's great. I'm
going to tell Denny Green and I'm like, so, I'm
about to sign with DITKA with the New Orleans Saints

(57:00):
and they offered me six seventy five, which was kind
of weird because he wanted me to be the starting
quarterback and that wasn't even up to par back then,
and so he said, look, take it or leave it,
and so I said, I'm going to just take one trip.
He said, well, you better let me know quick. Went
to Dinny Green. Dinny Green said, look, Randall, we want
you here. You're going to be our backup and we'll

(57:20):
give you five hundred and twenty five thousand to be
the backup quarterback. But you know, Brad Johnson's our quarterback,
and you know, if we need you, we'll put you
in there. I said, okay, talked to my wife and
we ended up signing with them. Yeah, so he brought
me out and then you know, the rest was history.
It would have been great if we could have won
the Super Bowl that year. It just wasn't. It wasn't
God's timing.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
We're going to talk about that season though.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Randy Moss Turkey Day Game three catches for one hundred
and sixty yards and three touchdown.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
How special was he?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Randy six foot four and three quarters four three forty
hand eye coordination out of this world and just just
a beast. He made a difference in a lot of
quarterbacks careers. And because he was tall and fast and

(58:12):
had great hand eye coordination, I could literally lay it
out their ten yards in front of him. We had
this rule, if you drop back and you're throwing a bomb,
it's forty and five from the sideline. With Randy it
was fifty. So we would launch it fifty years out
there and he'd run underneath it. He'd run past two
deep zone. I mean yeah, he would really run past

(58:34):
two deep zone. And so when they were running too deep,
which most of everybody in the NFL was doing, I said,
I could just throw it over the safety's head and
Randy's going to be there. So we started doing that
and people would be shocked. So I would drop back
and I look off and the load that thing up
and launch it and he'd be able to go get it.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Chris Carter as well, Right did you have? Did you play? Chris?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
It was Chris with you in Philly.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Philly First. Right was like reunited with him.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I don't think he gets the respect he deserves as
a receiver.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
He's a Hall of Famer, thank god. But you know,
Chris was that guy who he was like a coach.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
On the field.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
When you went on the field, he was going to
put pressure on you. I remember I was telling somebody
this the other day, yesterday, I said, there was no
today in practice. I was telling him, I said, you know,
there was so much pressure when I played for the
Minnesota Vikings. I said, you had to be perfect on
every play and on the offense if you didn't put
the ball right it was supposed to be. Chris was
like like, come on, man, let's go. And I mean
it was like that every play. So we worked so

(59:36):
hard and we were perfectionists. And it's because he was
a leader on the field and he expected excellence. And
you know he would be a great coach. I tell
you he could probably take a team to the NFL.
I mean an NFL team to the Super Bowl. I
think that his demeanor is so deep like that.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
You guys, when your running back Robert Smith, Robert he
was tough. Oh yes, he was tough and a good yes,
big too, like six two sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Three, yes, track step out there. Yeah he was. He
was at Ohio State. Yeah. I just called him about
maybe a month ago and just talked to him. It's
just like I just reminisced I'd be handing him to
the ball the next thing, and oh he scored again.
Made my job easy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Do you think that year when y'all went fifteen to
one and was upset of by Atlanta and over time,
do you think that was your best shot to get
in the chip?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yes? And mine for sure. Yeah, you know, we had
it all offensively. We were like the San Diego Chargers
with Dan Fouts back in the day, where we would
put a lot of points on the board and it
was coaching. Brian Billick was just an amazing coach. He
knew our talents and he could just pick plays for
everybody and the plays worked, and if they didn't work,

(01:00:48):
it wasn't like he would get on your case. I
remember one time I asked him, I said, he said
to me, he says, rand what play you want to call?
I said, whatever you want to call. I said, I
trust you're a great coach, and whatever you call, that's
what I'm going to execute. And that's the kind of
coach we had. So it was it was amazing having
Randy and Robert Smith and I mean Jake Read and

(01:01:09):
all of our offensive line, you know, was that offensive
line is? I still think those guys, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Post career. We got a chance to do with Eric
Dierson about a month ago, and he really opened our
eyes to the health insurance and the pension issues that
the NFL has. What are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I try to stay out of the politics. I like
to keep relationships. Eric is a good friend of mine.
He was in my wedding. We had a great time.
He's still a great friend. Just talked to him. He
just texted me a couple of days ago. He texted me,
he says, man, I'm watching your highlights. I'm like, I'm watching.
But we do that as players. You know, you got

(01:01:47):
respect for each other absolutely, But when it gets to
a lot of that, the NFL did me no wrong.
Can things be better? I mean, I look at my pension,
I look at my four oh one K and then
I'm like, whoo. You know, I'm grateful, so I don't.
I mean these guys that are getting you know, cts,
or they're getting these these brain issues. That is real,

(01:02:09):
and and and and guys need to be taken care of.
It's they need to go back to the older players
who are still living, you know, the guys that are
probably in their seventies and their eighties, and they need
to like do something for them, just like I guess
they're doing that in college with this nil thing. They
need to go back to those guys because like O. J.
Bragants is a good friend of mine and we were
in ministry together. He's you know, been fighting for his life,

(01:02:32):
you know, in a wheelchair, and some guys have passed away.
Andre Waters Junior say, these guys have passed away, you know,
and at young ages, you know, and it's like I
can understand where Eric is. I'm just as not as
vocal as Eric.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah, chause Chris Paul did that, and they did it
for the retired players and the older guys. Make sure
they all had insurance. Again, we have lifetime insurance. So
they made sure the guy came before us. They made
sure they got it too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
So yeah, good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah. The medical is really important because I think that
like Eric's been diagnosed with a couple of things. I'm
not really sure what it is, but yeah, just give
him a better, better life your church.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
I got a chance to visit it Remnant Ministry Remnant
Ministry twenty years. You've been doing it. That's nice building.
Gotta you show me the house across as you got
a nice little fortress over there. See the basketball court,
I didn't get a chance to Yeah, I'm at a
full court. Yeah, it explained how that came about. And
and you know how much you enjoy giving you a

(01:03:36):
chance to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I was retired in nineteen ninety five, ninety six or
something like ninety five, and I was working in Marvel
and grand Field doing countertops and florin. And the guy
who was my partner, well he wasn't my partner then
he was, you know, yeah, he wasn't my partner. Joey said,
hey man, we should start a Bible study. And I said, yeah,
who's gonna teach? You say you are? That's what you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I am?

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
He says, you know, more than me fell for it.
And so we would have two or three guys and
we would have Bible study. Next thing, you know, it
was thirteen thirty. Then it went to fifty to ninety.
And my pastor, the late John Michaels from Calvary Chapel, said,
we've got to get you ordained because this is not

(01:04:18):
a Bible study. You have over fifty people. It's a church,
so we have to get you ordained. I'm like, oh God,
what is he talking about if he's never done anything
wrong in my life. Until you said that I'm a pastor,
I wasn't trying to be a pastor. And so I
kind of avoided him for about two years. You know,
still stay friend, went to church and everything, and then
he said, Hey, we're having an ordination on the twenty

(01:04:40):
eighth of March, the day after my birthday. We'll see
you and he said, this is thirty days in advance.
He says, you need to pray about getting ordained. So
I said, honey, what do you think? She said, I
don't want to be the wife of a pastor. Nobody
thinks like that unless you go to seminary. I didn't
go to seminary. I've been in Bible College. No, I've
just been taught, and I've hung out with the chaplain
the vikings and things like that. So he says, so

(01:05:02):
are you going to receive And I said, yes, pastor.
So that was two thousand and four, two thousand and six,
and the Bible study went to a high school and
it began to grow. We went to one hundred and
forty people. Then God gave me a vision cause we started.
We did a building fund and we built a church
seventeen thousand square feet with five hundred seats, and God

(01:05:25):
gave me a vision of the church being completely filled up.
The first service we went there, it was completely filled up,
and I went up front and tears came to my
eyes and I'm like, God, you showed me this. And
so the next week we had one hundred and eighty
people in our congregation grew forty people that week, and
now we're up to three services. You know, we probably
got about maybe a thousand, but we have you know,

(01:05:47):
a lot of people that watch us online the Remnant
Ministries on Facebook, Rented Ministries Christian Church, and on our
site is Remnant Ministries dot net. And there are a
lot of people who support us online as well. And
it's like I just keep moving forward. My wife is
a system fastor in church because it's founded by God
doing it through us. But we just love people, you know,

(01:06:11):
and when you come to the church, you're gonna feel
that you're love. Everybody's gonna hug you, hug you to death.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
You know, and great energy in there. Yeah, and it's
still interesting too to kind of obviously be a fan
of you and then come to see you preach. And
then people are still blowing away that it's you. Obviously
you're in his church. But I heard probably three or
four that's random, godamn, like, yeah, you're at this church.
I don't even notice that obviously. I'm sitting back listening
to the word. And then when everyone's getting like you said,

(01:06:37):
everyone gets up and hugged when it's over, and I
came to find you. But passing through, I heard a
couple of people That'sdomyam. A couple of people said hello
to me. But I just thought it just brought a
smile to my face because it's just like, you know,
like my favorite quarterback is a preacher. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah. Yeah, And I told the congregation this on a
Wednesday night. I said, you know what, I love what
I do. I said, I have an office now because
I didn't have an office. You know, I got an
office probably five or seven years ago. But we've been
there twenty years and we keep growing and I'm in
the dungeon. I'm in the amplifier room. Helped back in
the room. I got to get a candle or something

(01:07:13):
to like, and sure enough I told the people. I said,
I love you guys, and I said I love what
I get to do. And I said, you need to
love what you do. I said, because it's all for
God and there's a reward in the end. I said,
it's only what you do for Christ to last. And
I said, you know, enjoy what you do. And you
guys do a great job here. Everybody our worship minister.

(01:07:35):
She says, I know who that is. And then she
was joking about it again today and I said, I'm
going over there with the with my guys, and I
told him about you, and they said, we watched that show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah. They were retaliated. Definitely. People are stopping me. So
we love your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
And it's like, you know, everybody was, yeah, when he
came into the church, you got to coming next time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I will gotta hang out with us. It was a
spur of the moong. We finished filming early on, like,
I'm gona run the church real quick because you gave
me the get the time. You had three services on Sundays.
I think I could make the eleven. My daughter got
baptized Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Oh congrats.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Yeah, I had to get baptized. To be honest with yourself,
I'm working towards that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I want to baptize you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Okay, Yeah that's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I got two sons that need to be baptized too,
So we make it. We're gonna make it the whole thing. Yeah,
I would love that. Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Quick hitters before we get before we get the quick hitters.
I forgot. We didn't ask this, but you're scrambling around
in the end zone sixty yard bombs after Fred Barnett.
Who's that two? And it was like a ninety seven
yard touchdown? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yes, it was against Buffalo Buffalo Bruce Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I dropped back and I knew he was coming, and
he knew that. I knew he was coming, right, but
I wasn't gonna get sacked.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
That was in the end zone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yes, we were like the five yards, yes, And I
just remember dropping back and I said, all right, whoa,
and I'm looking this way, and I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Bruce breathing down your neck and then I ducked.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
And he flew over me and then I rolled out
and I said, well, might as well punt this thing.
So I just threw it. It was windy, and I
just threw it down the field and Freddy caught it
and I went like, oh my god, they're not going
to catch Freddy sprinter and he took it into the
end zone, act like he was going.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Through the table with ninety five yard touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yes. Yes, And I remember going to the sideline and
Seth Joyner came up to me and he was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Like the greatest place I've ever seen. Yeah, he was
like just like this right. It's like I don't know. Yeah,
I was a little kid. I remember seeing that. Man,
that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I reg if Freddy would have dropped it and we
wouldn't be talking for it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Right quick, Kidter's first thing to come into mind. Let
me know what the players you've played against. Who's your corey,
who's your running back, who's your receiver? And who's your
tight ends?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yes, like I can't even answer that one too many?

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
How about this? Just do the different guys you didn't
play with who were some great so you would have
liked to had in the backfield, had a tight end
and had out wide, give me a tight end. Two
receivers and a running back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
That is so hard. Oh, because I played with so
many great guys. Oh my gosh, i'd go, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Too hard for guys didn't play with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Still, that's hard. There's so many guys I respect, and
I'm like, man, because I would say Jerry Rice is
a wide receiver. You know, it's like Jerry was the
man we came out together. Okay, Barry Sanders, but I
played with him in the Pro Bowl. Barry would be
in the backfield. I'm sorry, you got to have him
and Dickerson together.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
I'm not mad at that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, they switch. They're in it all the time. Oh.
I played with Ricky Waters, so I can't say Ricky Waters,
Dion I'd have in there somewhere on the offense. He's
got to be on the offense. Who else I have left?

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Tight end?

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
All I got played with Mark Mark Uh. Oh yeah,
so I can't say him Gates tight end Gates.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Antonio Antonio was a beast. So Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson
deon Sanders that one ride.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Jerry Well, he got to be somewhere on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Off Yeah, Jerry be there, Jared and then uh, Antonio Gates.
That's solid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Yeah, funniest teammate you ever had, the funniest Oh my god,
if he was here right now, we wouldn't be able
to record. He's a Canadian player named Henry Gizmo Williams.
See you don't remember running back. He was Edmonton Eskimos.
He was receiving and a returner. He's all over YouTube
all so, but Gizmo came in and he was five

(01:11:43):
six hundred ninety pounds yoked up. We used to train
together and he would bitch, frast I put my two
plates on there and get a couple in. He put
another one on there, throw a twenty five on there.
I'm like, that's like five or something like three sixty five.
I'm like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
And he would just go like this little arms.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
But we were in a restaurant in Atlantic City, because
we would go to Atlantic City and eat, and Gizmo
had this noise he made and he would go and
it was this noise man that would it would catch
you off guard. And so we're in a restaurant and
this is well to do restaurant, and he would do
this thing where he would grab you and he would

(01:12:29):
bite you on the shoulder. He would say, give me
a bite, dog, and he would bite you, and you're going, hey,
and didn't even hit that noise right after that. So
we're in a restaurant and he used to tell jokes.
He says, man, I was so poor. We used to
go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and lick other people's fingers

(01:12:51):
and stuff like. He would just say stuff like that
all day, right, And so he did that, and then
we're laughing so hard in the restaurant. He falls out
on the floor and everyone in the restaurant starts laughing
and they don't even know what they're laughing at. And
somebody walks by and says, get I'll have whatever he had, right,

(01:13:13):
So they thought he was drinking. Didn't drink right, funny,
And so everybody in the restaurant is just crying, laughing,
and we would say, please stop because I can't breathe,
and that's when he would bite you again. And the
bunniest person in the world to me, and then Chris Tucker.
Of course, Chris is just funny period, not even trying. Yes,

(01:13:36):
you know, he's just funny.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Naturally scariest defender you've ever faced. You face some bad
ones Wilbur Marshall ooh Chicago yep. Mm hmm. You saw
Mike Singletary too. They had a defense.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
I still remember playing against Singletary the first time, and
I used to They would talk about his eyes rough,
you know, and I was on the field and I
was like, whit's twenty five he was doing that and
I started laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Because his eyes would move like side the side, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
It was like he was so intense and I was like,
I laughed and it was like, man, that dude really
is like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I think the scaries was Randall on your team?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Oh, we had we had some.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
He was scary.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah, Johnny Randall, the d D lineman. I just talked
to him the other day. Yeah. He yeah. He was about
six foot one and just completely muscular. He was just
like Marshall.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Yeah from Minnesota. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
But I'm telling you, if Wilbur hit you, his he
was like the Nigerian nightmare at linebacker.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Christ on the defensive line at the linebacker who Cadence, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't like the guy with
the what's his name? He used to do all the
hey over there, how are you doing today? I've been
hitting the head a few times. He was with the
Colt Peyton. Yeah, all that stuff he does, it's not real. No,
you don't have time for all of that. It's a
lot of dummy calls, is what it is. Yeah, it's down,

(01:15:10):
said wife fifty eight. Whife fifty eight. Hut, you know,
and you gotta you have to make audibles spur of
the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
And one album on repeat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
It used to be be B and CC. Okay, yeah,
I don't remember the name of the album, but it
was b B and CC. I used to listen to
them all the time, and I just like their their
worship sincere so sincere child and crush childhood crush. I
don't know. I just I love football so much.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
That was your girl? That was this girl?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Football?

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah? I guess I could say it was. Oh my gosh.
She was a model, She was an actress. I can't
think of her name though, but she ended up getting
married each other. Those dreams went down to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
If you could see one guest on our show, who
would it be? But you have to help us get
your answer on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Your friends, that do you think would be good on
this show?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Chris Tucker. Man, he would do it. Come, yeah, he
would do it. Chris. I'm telling you. He golfs, we
go golfing, he comes to town, he goes to church
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
You guys built it, really, you were telling me that's
not to cut you off. You built a really strong
relationship with Chris Tucker.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Yeah, because he's real.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
You know, he stands for what's right. He's down to
earth and it's not about money, it's not about fame.
He loves everybody in public. You go in public and
you're like, come on, Chris, let's go. Man. He's just
shaking everybody's hands and talking to everybody. He doesn't shy
away from people. He's nice and he's just down to earth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Chris. You heard that. Yeah, coming from the pastor himself
full of well, Randon, we appreciate you, man. It was
an honor to be able to sit down and spend
some time with you on Sunday as well, get to
know you and definitely looking forward to being baptized. I'm
looking forward that. We'll definitely talk. Yeah, I appreciate that, man. Yeah,
thank you Randall. Cutting here, let's a wrap from all

(01:17:03):
the smoke you can catch US and all the Smoke
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