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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, guys, Welcome to Till Death Do Us Part. I'll
be your host today, Emily Simpson with Shane. Okay, today
we're going to talk about a case that just recently
popped up. It's been all over my newsfeed. And by newsfeed,
you know, I mean my Instagram feed. It is about
an influencer named Sarah Gilson and her soon to be
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ex husband and this case, I see it everywhere, but
it has originated and become very popular to talk about
because this crime occurred because of a TikTok that she made.
Have you heard of this case?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I heard very little, but I heard enough to know
it's disturbing.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It is disturbing, all right. When Sarah Gilson discovered a
dark secret about the man that she married, she did
what many people would do to this day and age.
She told the world via TikTok. Yeah, but some secrets,
once spoken aloud, have consequences no protective order can stop.
Weeks after going public, Sarah was silenced permanently, and the
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man she feared made sure no one would ever hear
her side of the story either. The only witness was
her child. So I don't know if you knew this
trend This started out because she did a TikTok trend
or I saw it on Instagram, so it was clearly
just a social media trend, and it was based on
there's all these Netflix documentaries, right, and they all have
kind of the same thing where they show the chair, right,
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and then someone comes in and sits in the chair.
So this has been a trend going on social media
where they show a chair and then someone goes and
sits down and.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Is usually the spouse.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well it's not always bashing his house.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It usually, like you know, it's trying to embarrass the
spouse or make a joke of the spouse.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So I've seen people that have made references to lots
of different things. Well I saw one that showed a
chair and then no one went and said it and
it said something about you know, their mom preparing for
their Netflix documentary to take accountability, and then the chair
was empty, which I thought was funny, and then I
sent it to my sister. So anyway, I mean, I
think it's just you can make it into a thing
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you want that's relevant in your own life. So she
made this TikTok about a Netflix documentary where she finds
out that her soon to be ex husband is actually
a pedophile, and then she posts it, and then it
goes viral, and it gets millions of views and thousands
of comments, and she calls this guy out on being
a pedophile publicly. So. Sarah Gilson is forty three and
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she's a Tulsa era area hairstylist and TikTok content creator
with over thirty thousand followers. She was in the process
of divorcing her husband, Jeremiah, but he goes by Sean Duffy,
who is forty eight years old. On June tenth of
twenty twenty six, police informed Sarah that her estranged husband
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had been accused of molesting a minor. It was a
fifteen year old girl who played on a youth basketball
team that he coached. So I guess he's the coach
of like a traveling girls basketball team. And from what
I understand because I read several articles on this, this
wasn't the first incident. There had been multiple incidents with
this fifteen year old girl over multiple states, because it's
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a traveling basketball team with the same I believe, with
the same fifteen year old girl.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But the same suspect.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, we're talking about the same to the.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Husband victim and the husband Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
He allegedly kissed and inappropriately touched the girl and was
caught by another coach. According to the girl's mother, I
guess the coach, this other coach that saw this incident happened,
reached out and told the girl's mother. The girl's mother
filed a protective order against Duffy on behalf of her daughter.
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All Right. Reports claim that the alleged misconduct extended beyond
just physical contact. The mother claimed Duffy, this is the
soon to be ex husband of this influencer, had sent
her daughter private messages, extended an invitation to his hotel
tellroom during an out of town tournament, and offered her
money and in an apparent attempt to buy text First
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of all, what idiot is texting a fifteen year old
this guy, this creep.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But so that that's un challengeable, Like that's in writing
that he's doing. He's inviting her to the hotel room
and he's offering her money. Right, So yeah, it's not
just like you can't get out of that one.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, now there's also a witness. The other coach saw him.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh, he's out for my job, or you know, you
can make stuff up. But I'm saying, when it's in
a text message, how's he going to get out of
that one?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right? The same day that protective order was filed, Sarah
filed for and was granted an emergency protective order against Duffy.
He was ordered to vacate their shared home and stay
at least one hundred yards away from her. The way
I understand it is when they so the police get
a protective work or the mother of the girl gets
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the protective order, the police are made aware. They're also
made aware that there's been other incidents other than just
this one. My understanding is the police then reach out
to his soon to be ex wife and say, you
need to get a productive order because I believe he
went on the run when he knew about this. He
disappears and so he's out.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So the police have advised her that she's potentially in danger.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Right, so she gets a productive order. Yes, it's granted.
The petition noted that he possessed a firearm, had made
suicide threats previously, and fled after being confronted about the accusations,
so we know he's on the run. He flees this
was not Sarah's first attempt to seek legal protection against him.
According to court records, she had filed two protective orders
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previously against him back in twenty twenty one. One was
for stalking and another one was for abuse. However, she
would file for these protective orders, and then when it
came time for there to be a hearing, because you know,
there has to be a hearing, because he has to
get noticed and he has to be given due process
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to show up and tell his side of the story,
she doesn't show up at the hearings. So the two
protective orders that she filed against him in twenty twenty one,
neither one of them was granted because she never followed
through on them.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So she didn't feel a threat enough to go in pursue.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No, I think I don't think that's a correct conclusion.
You could say maybe he threatened her. Maybe she was
scared to go through with it. I mean, we don't
know what happened. Maybe he did the love bombing thing
where he's like, oh, I'm so sorry, I'll never hit
you or stalk you again. I promise you know. I
don't know. On July eleven, Sarah publicly posted a TikTok,
accusing Duffy of pedophilia. She wrote, quote preparing for when
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netflox drops a documentary about my soon to be ex
husband who I just found out is a pedophile. Did
you say Netflix, Netflox? I thought I said Netflix, but
maybe I said Netflox Netflix Netflix. All right, Okay, can
we just talk about this for a second. And this
is not me victim blaming, because I would never do this.
This is an innocent woman who is murdered by a
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horrible and should never have a man, and this should
have never happened. My only comment is if she knows
that he's abusive because she filed two protective for two
protective orders earlier in twenty twenty one. She knows that
he's done something with a fifteen year old and he
is now on the run. She knows that he has
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a weapon, She's accused him of stalking and being abusive
in her past. And I do know, because I read
this earlier, that she has an ex husband who she
has the two children with, who has told her to
get away from this man because he's a problem and
he's abusive. Why make the TikTok video calling him out
and publicly. I mean, he's going to be called he's
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people are going to know he's a pedophile. I mean,
he's going to be arrested once they find him. He fleet,
he fled, fleed, he fleet, he fled. Yeah, but I'm
saying everyone is going to learn that he is a pedophile.
The making of the TikTok video.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And point she did it in such a like she's
just following a trend too. It's like, I don't know,
It's just like, were you really trying to give notice
or you're trying to get clicks or you're trying to
be funny about it, Like was it really a concern?
And how does this help you and your your your family?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't know. I just wish I just wish she
didn't poke.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Why do people post that don't help, like prop up
their family. Why would you post something that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Just well, he's not the father of her children.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But it's just yeah, but it's causing issue as we
know here because they're murdered.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I know. My whole point is, you know, this man
is abusive, and he has a firearm, and he's and
he's threatened suicide and all these things in the past,
and you filed for two protective orders against him, and
now you've been granted a third protective order. Why poke
the bear who's on the run with the weapon, That's
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all I'm saying, all right, On July twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Third, I'll tell you why. Because people can't resist going
on social media and putting every aspect of their life home.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, I just wish Sarah wouldn't have done that. I
wish I wish she would have second guessed herself, thought
about a little more, and thought, this probably isn't a
good idea, because this is a madman. On July twenty
third to twenty twenty six, less than two weeks after
her post, a nine to one to one dispatcher reported
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hearing a woman screaming and crying in the background of
an emergency call. This was placed from Sarah Gilson's Oaso,
Oklahoma home. Sarah's son allegedly made that call to nine
one one and reported that his stepfather had shown up
and shot his mother. Sarah had two children, a daughter
and a son, and these children were from a previous marriage,
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which is what we had talked about just a minute ago.
Her first husband, who's the father of the two children
has come out and said that he had that he
co parented with her very well, and that they had
a good relationship and that she was a great mother,
but that he had told her that she needed to
get away from this guy. The call came in at
approximately eleven fifteen pm on July twenty third, with the
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dispatcher noting a loud bang that was audible during the call.
On the dismatch audio, the operator can be heard referencing
a male subject who had previously been flagged by authorities
a few weeks ago after he got caught kissing a juvenile,
along with the mention of a firearm. Police confirmed their
arrival at the scene just minutes later around eleven eighteen pm.
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When police arrived, they found both Sarah Gilson and Sean
Duffy dead from a parent gunshot wounds to the head.
The case is being investigated as a murder suicide. Sarah's
son was taken into protective custody and later release to
an uninvolved parent. I don't know who the uninvolved parent is.
I don't know what it says uninvolved parent. I don't
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know what that means. I mean, it must mean the father.
It must mean the dad I think in the crime, right,
uninvolved in the crime. It must have been released to
his father at that point, so I don't know where
there's a daughter too, but I don't know the ages
or anything, So I don't know what are your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I try to tell you my thoughts. You disagreed with them.
That was not why you said, why did she post
it in this night? I said, yeah, I just said,
why why would anyone post anything it's not going to
be positive for their family? Why would you post something
so negative or yourself?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, when you say family, again, he's not the father
of her children, and I don't believe they have children together,
So he's just an ex husband.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So she's dead. Yeah, it affected her children? Yes, So
I'm again I'm saying, why would you make such a
post that negatively impacts your Why would you just make
such a negative post, Like why would you want that negativity?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
People are all going to find out and her children's
to find out he's a pedophile. I'm just saying the
way she did it on a platform like that where
it goes viral and gets millions of views, and I
think it had like thousands and thousands and thousands of
comments is probably what pushed that guy over the edge,
because the media, the social media world can be very brutal.
Where were we Who is the guy from what was
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the show? Where he got backlash from social media and
he ended up committing suicide. I'm talking about social media.
I'm talking about recent social media where people become attacked
on social media. So I'm talking about the guy and
Storage Wars that ended up committing suicide. And didn't he
leave a suicide note basically saying that he could.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Couldn't handle it anymore? Someone had still on the identity
and started coming out as gay and this and then
just kind of bowling that way and messing with his
identity and he couldn't handle it anymore and he killed himself.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It wasn't there like some social media backlash because of
him being on Storage Wars or something. No, I'm just saying, well,
when you make a TikTok like that and it goes
out and it goes viral.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You're going to get people's attention, right.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And I don't know what was happening. I don't know
if people were then reaching out to him and attacking him.
All I know is you're talking about someone who's a lunatic,
who has a gun, who is threatened, and.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Who's in a pedophile.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Right, it's very unfortunate what happened, and it's very sad
what happened, because that child was in the house. He
could have he could have killed the child too. I mean,
if he was that angry that he was coming after
her and he went even though there's a training order,
and he went to the house and he took a
gun and he shot her and shot himself, I mean, he.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Could have the foughtder. Apparently co parents and they do
well together, then hopefully the child can now have an
opportunity to kind of be able to have some stability.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm just saying they're very lucky that he didn't also
turn the gun on that child that was in the
house at the same time. Correct, Correct, all right. TMZ
reported that Duffy's ex wife said that the alleged murder
suicide did not surprise her, though the specifics of her
statements are still emerging and this is still a developing story.
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Over twelve million Americans are victimized by intimate partners annually.
Women ages eighteen to thirty four are at the highest risk,
with one in four women and one in seven men
experiencing domestic violence in their lifetime. Nearly half of all
incidents go unreported. I mean, that's the question why. Probably
because people women are scared to report it because the
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retaliation is probably worse than the actual abuse in the
first place. It's not that easy.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's the response isn't so quick to protect, so I mean,
they can only do so much law enforcement, so then
they're vulnerable to being attacked again.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And you know, I mean, a restraining order is a
restraining order, and that's great. It's on a piece of paper.
It tells someone you can't come within a hundred year.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Does or whatever catch the person violating it and then
hopefully throw them in jail or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But really it's not any type of protection other than
a piece paper.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
As is proven here.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Key risk factors for perpetrating domestic violence, witnessing parental abuse
as a child, being abused as a child, conduct, antisocial
personality disorders, and holding hostile attitudes towards women all significantly
increase the likelihood of committing intimate partner violence. I don't
know what would you tell your daughters, because everyone says
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why can't you just leave? I think that's the that's
the universal question. Everyone's like, well, why didn't she just leave?
Why didn't she just leave?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I don't know. What would you tell I.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Would tell them to leave and to come to me.
You always have a home here, I will protect you.
Come here, leave walk away.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So if they even tell you that much.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, I just try to keep the lines of communication open.
I always tell Annabel to tell me anything, and I
won't judge and I won't get upset, and hopefully we
just continue that open line of communication. Also, she needs
to have positive male role mom in her life that
she looks up to, so she knows what the standard
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is that that you know, Like, the way you treat
me is what is modeling in front of her? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
What about the way you treat me?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm talking about you treating me because she is a girl,
all right. Studies indicate that roughly seventy six percent of
intimate partner homicides and eighty five percent of attempted homicides
of women involved at least one incident of stalking in
the year prior to the attack, with digital tracking and
social media monitoring heavily contributing to this cycle. I don't know,
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that's very interesting that a lot of it has to
do with stalking first as well the obsession.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You know, the gateway crime.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
The Gateway crime is starting. Yeah, all right, well that
is the story of the influencer and her TikTok. If
there's any more information that comes out that we would
want to address, we will do that. But anyway, it's
a sad situation.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Hopefully that child is with the father and has some stability, right.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
All right, guys, thank you so much for listening to
the case of Sarah Gilson, the Influencer and Sean Duffy.
If you have any cases that you would like to recommend,
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