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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It is Wednesday, August fifth, and a popular TikToker was
live streaming to his six hundred thousand followers when he
was executed live for everybody to see. And with that,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Rose.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm scared to open the damn Internet.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, what is going on? I told you.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I Unfortunately that what you just described is still available
as of this recording.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Anyone to see. If you go on to X and
I saw someone wrote my god.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
First I pull up X and I see Perez Hilton
and now I see this TikTok influencer murdered.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm afraid to open up a social media app at
this point.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
This is ropes.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
This is incredible. These incredible tools we have that you
can go live on any street at any moment. But
the thing about live robes, things happen, and this was
it is incredible to watch. And yes we did look
at it. For the sake of this reporting, we do
not recommend it.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But Robes.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
This was a very popular and very young, twenty five
years old influencer in Mexico, twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Five years old, and you know what his videos were
his live streaming videos were comedic.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
He was having fun.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
In fact, Goofy even and in this particular this, by
the way, and what's exceptionally concerning, is that this happened
on a busy street in front of a KFC restaurant.
He's Goofully dressed up as a basically a door dash
driver or a delivery driver. He's got the big square
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backpack where he has food on and he's he's being
funny and silly and live streaming with two of his friends.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And this is at eight pm at night.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And the way it was described in terms of its
location just feet away from the prosecutor's office.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So this is a place where it's not rural. It
wasn't in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It wasn't someplace where a hit could happen and no
one would know who was coming and where they left from.
You can clearly see the two men who pull up
on a motorcycle, and I believe it's the driver who
pulls out a gun and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Shoots him in the head in the middle of the
live stream.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And we're talking about Sezar Gastellone is his name, and
he is described as a comedian influencer online. But yes,
he has has accumulated six hundred thousand followers now from
what I had seen and what he has done is
a bunch of pretty silly, goofy videos and comedy sketches.
So it's that's his lane. It seems difficult to think
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could understand and why is it that? How he could
drawn the eye of whomever who thought this was necessary
to do? I don't know, but robes, they knew exactly
where he.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Was well, and that's the point, and that's the scary thing.
We actually did an episode on this at the end
of last year about just how many live streamers have
had issues with yes being targeted and then attacked or
murdered because it's very obvious where you are. Anyone who
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is following you, one of his six hundred thousand followers,
they can see your exact location. They know where you
are in real time. So if you have any enemies
or anyone is out to get you or out to
even make a spectacle of you, that is the scary
thing about live streaming. You are known, your location is
known to every single person who was tuned into your
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channel or to your broadcast, and the.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Clip robes of that's going around as a shorter clip
than twelve seconds or something of what happens there at
the end, But this was a longer live stream I
have seen even about a two minute version. They were
his friends, were riding around in a car. Even they
got out, they went inside the restaurant, they came out,
so if anyone was following him online and following the
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live stream, they had a while to figure out the
location and figure out where they were going and to
just be lying in wait almost if they wanted to.
And that is is not the first one we've seen
similar to this. We'll explain here shortly, but we'll explain
at least this one and what you see in this video.
And as you were setting up robes, they looked like
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he and his friends. They all have on hats. Here
has a hoodie on and a cowboy hat and glasses.
They're laughing. They're smiling through this video. They're in the
car driving around for a bit and they get out robes,
they go inside. They're standing around inside and they come
out and robes. This is where everything seemed to be
fine and cool, and they were laughing. So you got
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at least three guys here cast alone is on the
right of them all, and it has to be a
fourth person who was shooting the videos, So four of
them have to be standing there on the side of
the street outside the KFC.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And by the way, they weren't blending in.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
They were dressed in bright orange delivery jackets, so they
stood out in addition to wearing their hats, but they
were in costume.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
They were dressed up, and they were bright. They were beacons,
so to speak.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Not only could you have seen them on your live stream,
but also when you pulled up or if you were
targeting them, they were really obvious standing in a well
lit area in front of this fast food restaurant, this KFC,
in bright orange garb with backpacks of food delivery drivers,
and you see it. It's surreal to watch because, as
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you described, Babe, they were laughing, they were being funny,
they were making a comedic video.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So everybody was in good spirits.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
There was no sense or feeling of danger or worry
or concern. Nobody was looking over their shoulders. This wasn't
some serious live stream where they were calling out somebody
or airing grievances. No, they were just having a good
old time on a Tuesday night at eight pm, and
you see this motorcycle with a driver, and there I
(06:18):
have seen now people have obviously taken these videos or
this live stream and zoomed in and before they came
up close, you can see the men's faces very clearly.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So obviously there was a man hunt underway.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But I believe when they came up closer, the driver
who ended up doing the shooting had his They both
had helmets on.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
He had, I believe his helmet down, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He just they slow down, and it doesn't even look
like Sezar Gastalloum even noticed they were behind him.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He doesn't even look like he turned around to look
at them.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
He wasn't even aware it seemed that somebody was coming
up behind him.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He might have just quickly glanced. But they've got smiles
on their faces.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They and the here's the weird thing, Grobes. There are
two people on the motorcycle. You would think the person
in the back was going to be the shooter. Yes,
but the driver is the shooter. Now, if you know
anything at all about a motorcycle, you have to stop
that bike and get it in a particular position. If
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you're going to take one hand off of a handle.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You would know this more than I would. You do
you ride a motorcycle as.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
A sou you have to come to so the driver
here Robes had to come to a full stop, make
a movement to take out a gun, shoot, put the
bike back in gear. What I'm saying is Robes this
as in real time, took a beat. He they he
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pulls up calmly. They aren't alarmed at all. Robes they
turn around.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, they're not even paying attention.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
They're not. And he turns around. Nobody he's worried. It's
just a gallon a motorcycle rope. They have to make
a full stop. This takes a moment to do. You
have to put the gun back in your pants and
take off. So it wasn't when we say there was
the two guys on a bike. It wasn't a drive
by situation. It was a pull up, stop, execute, and
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take off. I was struck by how much time he
had to react. That he didn't right.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Because there was no fear. And you know we even
you just freezed the frame and paused. And the two
friends who are with Gustelum they saw are smiling, but
they they're turning around.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
They're smiling. He looks back at the guys because they've stopped.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You're like, hey, maybe you're thinking, hey, they're fans of
ours there.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
They know we're doing a live stream.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And these guys who are pulling up are in like
polo shirts and jeans.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
They look casual as hell.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
They don't look like they're coming up as assassins or
like cartel members who are out to get someone.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
They don't look threatening, they don't look scary.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But look at the friends. The Gastoloma's with. He's just
standing there and he turns. But his friend here he
sees something first and makes him take off from Oh,
he sees the gun.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He sees a gun at the very last second. You're right,
but like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He's smiling, never reacts, He never reacts to the He
never ropes, ever reacts.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I imagine he thought he was probably fans of his.
He's got six hundred thousand followers. He's doing a live stream.
You know, you and I have been up plenty of
times on the corner of streets.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I have been. I know you must have been too.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I've been in dangerous neighborhoods where you're going live and
you're looking over your shoulder, your photographer. I've had a
scary moment or two where people have come up and
threatened you or threatened to do something to you on
live national television.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I have actually had that experience.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But most of the time, when people approach you when
you're going on live, it's they're excited, they're friendly, they
want to be a part of things, they want to
know what's going on. I don't think most of the time,
or any of the time, you're anticipating someone coming out
to target you, to kill.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You in the middle of and his mind is elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
He's doing a live stream, he's in a comedic sketch
sketch us, he's entertaining people.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's not thinking about that his life is at stake.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
We've we've we've reacted exactly how he did, absolutely on
live television when better instincts told us we should probably
react and run or something. Well, it's absolutely plenty of time.
So when you put me in that headspace, I see
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why he is performing. I have to do this is
the most important thing right now, to whatever. But there
was no Danate. These two guys were up. They pull
up on a bike and stop it looks like maybe
a dirt bike and stop and he had to pull out. So, yes,
that search that is underway. This is in Sineloa State
down there in Mexico, which has been certainly the site
(10:59):
of play of cartel violence. Just how much I was
and you might be as well, folks surprised to hear
just how many influencers as social media influencers are being
killed in Sineloa State alone. Stay here, we'll tell you
how many in the past year and also why cartels
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are targeting them.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Welcome back to Amy and TJ as we are talking
about another disturbing video. This one was initially a live
stream of a very popular TikTok influencer. His name is
Sesar Guestalloom had nearly six hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Was doing a.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Comedic routine in front of a KFC when he was
targeted and murdered on the live stream just a few
feet away from the prosecutor's office there in that area
of Mexico. And Mexico Security Cabinet wrote that it is
yes investigating the why behind this and they believe that
he had some posts which may have referred to a
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faction of a criminal group yes, we're talking about cartels,
but they are now investigating. Mexico's president said that they
are working to try and determine who is responsible, to
identify the killers, to identify the mastermind. But we know
this is a very complicated situation in Mexico, and this
is certainly not an isolated event.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's weird Rovia. It was last year the young lady
that was really shocking. She's in a salon. Was she
working or a customer at the time.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
She was at a beauty salon where she was live
streaming on TikTok, So it was my understanding that she
was a customer there.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I haven't just I don't know why that detail got
to me that moment, but she was the same thing.
She was on a live stream and her followers saw
her shot.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And killed twenty three years old beauty influencer at a
beauty salon in a very similar area of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Marquez is her name, but Robes I was like, wait
a minute, the number of influencers killed, not just in Mexico,
in this state alone in Mexico. I was shocked to
see this.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yes, at least is the way they put it, So
there could be more, which is a little frightening, But
at least twelve twelve social media influencers have been murdered
in that particular state. And they say this all happened
when two factions of this cartel began their battle in
September of twenty twenty four, and so somehow, some way,
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these social media influencers are literally being caught in the
crosshairs of these two fighting factions. And to think that
a dozen influencers in a little more than a year
have died in this very particular area of Mexico, that
is dionne frightening.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
They say they're getting caught up robes in propaganda. There
is another war. Yes that car tells wage that they
are pretty damn good at and propaganda now and they
know how important messaging is online in that space, and
that is where they are now living and eliminating threats
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to their image or their.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Messaging, instilling fear and.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yes, to get other people to do some of their
messaging for them. There's another that says it's happening so
much a money laundering scheme that they pressure some of
these influencers into some kind of way making their I
guess it's online money in some way to some kind
of way launder dirty money. Bro. It's I guess we
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should understand and shouldn't be surprised by this, but this
is shocking to see what happened to him. It's shocking
that something like that rose unbeknownst to followers, could just happen.
You could be doing some people now you can choose
to look at it or not a lot other people
just watching him have fun.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, they had no idea.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Obviously, no one had any idea about what was going
to happen. And now I think it's it's sickening to
know that it's still up. I just think on the
heels of Perez Hilton too. Just this is We've had
a very disturbing twenty four hours of social media, a
very disturbing twenty four hours of live streaming to be specific,
where people have seen things they didn't want to see.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And they choose to take that down there.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I believe, so.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I would think, I don't, I mean X, it is
up on X. I mean we just checked and this
all comes on the heels. Remember it was it earlier
this week or last week I brought up to you.
I thought, look, is this a story worth pursuing because
I saw a headline fourteen mayors have been murdered in
Mexico in that same period of time. So you've got
a dozen social media influencers murdered. You have at least
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fourteen mayors murdered in Mexico since October of twenty twenty four,
so that same period of time when that cartel all
battle began. And just to get your head around the
violence in Mexico since two thousand and six, over the
last twenty years, one hundred mayors have been killed in Mexico.
I just imagine that being applied in just a smaller
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number in this country.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean, it's unthinkable the violence.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And now, yes, this has got to affect tourism, This
has got to affect people's decisions about where they're going
to vacation. You and I both love Mexico, and I
actually immediately when I saw this particular area where you've
had all this violence targeting influencers, mayors, anyone who goes
against these cartels or if there's an opportunity to yes,
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make a mark or show your strength, it's just beyond frightening.
But it's you know, it's it's a seven hour drive
from Portaviarta.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
This is which is not immune as we know, absolutely
not recently.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yes, because we had left that area of Mexico, and
I believe it was a matter of three four days later.
You couldn't even drive down the roads that we had
traveled up and down multiple times the week before. This
is scary stuff, This is real stuff, and I feel
so sick for these young social media folks down there.
Twenty three was the young ladies age Valentine No, what
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was her name, Valeria Valeria Marquez? Correct, she was twenty
three and Sezar was twenty five. Are they thinking this through?
Are they realizing and recognizing that by live streaming, you
are literally telling everyone exactly where you are, and you're
giving them an opportunity to have a worldwide audience.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
That is frightening.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's something nothing here in the US anybody would ever
think to have to worry about, right, I think to
have to worry about. Well, yeah, folks wanted to give
you that update, but the hunt is on for these two.
We did see her in mentioning Valerie Marquez. They did
catch that killer very recently last week, so it's very
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possible ropes that and rest could be made. We just
wanted to hop on and give you the update. Breaking
story uh still, but as always, we appreciate you spending
a little time with us.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I'm t J.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Holmes On behalf of my dear Amy Robot. We'll talk
to y'all soon.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
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